Not your personal min max army.

There's a PrC in... Complete Adventurer? Races of Stone?... called Cragtop Archer. It removes range penalties, so you can fire out to maximum bow range (well, you could if you could see there). After that, just make an archer that does a bunch of damage. You can't really break 50 per arrow consistently, though.

Alternatively, use Spellwarp Sniper, long-range spells, and that swift-action spell that lets you sneak attack at any range. Boom, headshot with a ray from 1200 feet away.

>>2709873
DAWWWWWWW

>>2709873
Attn: I am about to talk out of my ass.

Couldn't you combine the two? The cragtop super long range archer + magical enhancements? Maybe with artificer.

>>2709898
Currently better than my near straight fighter build:
----------1st Level
Weapon Focus
Proficiency with selected weapon, BAB +1
You gain a +1 bonus on all attack rolls you make using the selected weapon.
----------Fighter 1
Crossbow Sniper
Weapon Focus with hand, heavy, or light crossbow, BAB +1
Half dexterity bonus on crossbow damage, 60ft. Skirmish or Sneak Attack
----------Fighter 2
Point Blank Shot
You get a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls with ranged weapons at ranges of up to 30 feet.
----------Fighter 3
Far Shot
Point Blank Shot
Range increments for ranged weapons are 1.5 times further.
----------Fighter 4
Weapon Specialization
Proficiency with selected weapon, Weapon Focus with selected weapon, fighter level 4th.
You gain a +2 bonus on all damage rolls you make using the selected weapon.
----------Fighter 5
Power Critical
Weapon Focus, BAB +4
When using the weapon you selected, you gain a +4 bonus on the roll to confirm a threat.
----Deepwood Sniper1, Fighter 5
----Deepwood Sniper1, Fighter 6
----Deepwood Sniper1, Fighter 7
Ranged Weapon Mastery
Proficiency, weapon focus, and Weapon Specialization with selected weapon, BAB+8
+2 bonus on attack and damage rolls, range increment +20ft
----Deepwood Sniper1, Fighter 8
Fighter 8th
Greater Weapon Focus
Weapon Focus with selected weapon, fighter level 8th
+1 bonus on attack rolls with selected weapon
----Deepwood Sniper1, Fighter 9
Penetrating Shot
Str 15, Point Blank Shot, BAB +10

>>2709946
continued:


RACE OPTIONS
Catfolk - +4 dex +0 str +0 wis +0 int +2 cha +0 con LA+1 ECL+1 Pg92 Races of the Wild
Thri Kreen - +4 dex +2 str +2 wis -2 int -4 cha +0 con LA+2 ECL+5
Tiefling - +2 dex +0 str +0 wis +2 int -2 cha +0 con LA+1 ECL+1 Pg16 Planar Handbook
Goliath - -2 dex +4 str +0 wis +0 int +0 cha +2 con LA+1 ECL+1 Pg55 Races of Stone

CLASS OPTIONS
Deepwood Sniper - Masters of the Wild
Cragtop Archer - Races of Stone


WEAPONS OPTIONS

Name Damage Critical Range Source
Great Crossbow 1d12 19-20x2 150Ft ??
Great Crossbow 3d8(L) 18-20x2 120ft Races of Stone

>>2709873
Cragtop Archer lessens penalties and increases the ammount of range increments you can fire into to something like.. 8? but, the problem is, you need to make a huge ass spot check to even -see- that far half the time.

>>2709946
was me on my other PC posting the build I had sofar, but it doesnt really do quite asmuch damage as I'd like it to. Basically, this was an attempt to make bow and arrow not always be the best option for ranged combat.

>>2710054

If you add wild talent or use a psychic race (half giants are good for the one-size larger weapons), you can add Psionic Shot and Improved Psionic Shot for 2- or 4d6 extra damage for single shots, or take Unavoidable Shot and make it ranged touch attack once per round (or use an Elan and use Elan Retainment for two shots a round).

Deepwood Sniper in Races of the Wild is basically exactly what you want. Combine it with Cragtop archer, and you're golden.

Min/maxed, well, let's just say that me and touhoufag had a semi-contest(well, more he built both of them to see if crossbow or bows were better).

By the midway point, we had to start figuring out how to see that far.

Make a spellcaster, use Chain Lightning (easily at 500+ foot range, and hits multiple targets). Done.

Half Giant sniper:
Great Crossbow 3d8(L) 18-20x2 120ft Races of Stone
Fighter 9, Deepwood Sniper 1
feats (in order of grabbing)
Weapon Focus
Crossbow Sniper
Point Blank Shot
Far Shot
Weapon Specialization
Power Critical
Psionic Shot
Greater Psionic Shot
(placeholder for Unavoidable Strike, pending rules check)
Ranged Weapon Mastery
Greater Weapon Focus
Penetrating Shot

>>2710208
>make a spellcaster, cast extended/empowered/whatever Time Stop, via a rod, teleport in, drop a bunch of Delayed Blast Fireballs, teleport out, wait for the Time Stop to end. They'll never know what hit them.
Fixed that for ya.

>>2710208

do this

it's a lot easier than all the other crap, and I'm sure there are good Long-range ray spells in one book or another

>>2710177
Ah, so your that other guy who was doing the spotscheck minmaxing. What did we end up doing? just scrying for distance, or did you end up breaking the +150 range?

>>2710253
While it technically works as such, I could just as easily go "WIZARD UP IN THIS MOTHERFUCKER" instead, which is kind of what I want to avoid. Trying to keep the character weapon based, and preferably wielding a crossbow.

>>2710276
The correct psionic feat for 'unavoidable strike' (which is unarmed combat version) is 'Fell Shot', which turns the shot into a ranged touch attack.

>>2710276

Make an artificer, use wands and staves of assorted long-range spells. Then you can get a gunslinger vibe going and still have (lots of) utility magic left over.

>>2710301
Honestly, good advice, but, as stated earlier, (rather, more likely implied) was I'd like to keep the character as un-magic'd as possible. This doesnt mean I will stupidly overlook good additions to the character, it just means I dont want to do generic spellslinger#7.

Sofar, going by the build we have sofar in >>2710238
we are able to:
Crit on a 13-20 for x3 damage,
have a range increment of 210ft,
Deals 3d8+4d6+4+1/2 dex,
if enemies within 60ft, able to, in essence, Ray of Lightning with the crossbow, and roll seperate attack rolls on each of them
Make touch attacks in place of normal attack rolls
+5 to hit, +9 to confirm critical
all at level 10 with no magic(only 2 psionic feats sofar) in sight.

Hahaha 500 feet? come ON.

optimized sniper builds are measured in MILES

>>2710177

... Shamgi?

>>2710261

The best way to spot your target is to use the Glass of Distance wondrous item from Sandstorm. It's a spyglass that lets you view things up to 10 miles away, and once per day, you can either teleport an object/creature within that range to you or teleport yourself to an object/creature within that range. However, the item costs 52,200 gp, and it takes a free hand to be able to see through the glass.

>>2710508

>all at level 10 with no magic(only 2 psionic feats sofar) in sight.

You mean ECL 11, dear, because he's a half-giant. And I thought this was supposed to be a gestalt build. It would help if you gave us a target ECL to work with, because otherwise, I'd be stuck trying to figure out the level in which I would be optimizing this for. Additionally, here's a few questions to help me out with this:

1.) Does it have to use a crossbow? Is a greatbow fine too?
2.) How nonmagicky must it be? I assume magic equipment and psionic feats are fine, but what about scrolls and potions?
3.) Does "single shot" necessarily have to be a single shot? What about a single full attack, or a single Manyshot?

>>2710564

This is correct, of course, and even simple things such as a Distance weapon are left out in this thread. Hence why I need to step up to the challenge myself... if I get around to doing it, that is.

>>2710564

They also require spellcasting and other cheese whiz, which the op is not interested in.

On the other hand, a range increment of 210' gives a mere -4 at 630' which can be utterly pointless as far as penalties if they use a range touch attack to resolve the hit.

>>2710592
Feel free to take over the build and ultimately rape the earth within 14 miles in each direction, local tohoufag. I'd prefer it to stay ECL 10-15(feel free to use ECL 15 as the end).

And yeah, I've kind of been halfassing it up to this point, as I'm running off of things I've arranged for a decent build about half a year ago that I stumbled upon in my documents, hadn't been touched in internet 'decades'.

A crossbow is prefered, I'd like to literally keep it at one shot a round, and feel free to magic it up, I'd just like to avoid it being a generic spel lslinger, buff spells are fine and dandy, aswell as damage-boosters.

>>2710621
Ok so you definitely don't want a nova build that shoots a billion arrows?

>>2710621

If you don't mind that, then go Elan build, take Elan Retainment, that way you can spend 3 powerpoints to keep your focus after you use Greater Psionic Shot as a free action, then use the actual focus to give yourself the Fell Shot as a free action as well.

Make the bolts out of deep crystal to give them an extra 2d6 damge as a free action at the cost of 2 powerpoints, and if you couple this with Fighter//Psychic Warrior, you can use the various powers to increase to hit rolls with insight bonuses that stack with weapon enhancement and stat bonuses as well, along with various weapon affecting powers that increase damage, change damage types, or other unpleasant nasty tricks.

>>2710629
This is for sure.

>>2710641
Actually gives me a nifty idea, if even fluff wise; What about crafting Ioun Stones into crossbow bolts, inorder to lessen the strain on the PP required? Also, it doesnt seem like I miss much by going Elan, off the top of my head I do not recall if elan keeps the Powerful Build ability that the halfgiant uses to jump up a die of damage

>>2710672

They don't have the powerful build, no, but a combination fighter//psychic warrior means they'll have feats to burn for something like monkey grip or an exotic weapon proficiency for a size larger weapon. Though psychic warriors gain Expansion at 1st level so you could increase the weapon size that way, technically.

As far as fluff wise, if the DM lets you, sure, but each burned out ioun stone only gives 1 pp and turns to dust. Although a deep crystal weapon can be enchanted - a +1 Returning Crossbow Bolt made from deep crystal, and having a Rainbow Ioun Stone built into the crossbow itself to allow you to use it's 5 power points towards powering the crossbow bolts - or perhaps a crystal capacitor built into it you charge every now and again for the same purpose?

I think the real question is, can you use a crossbow to do anything BUT sniping?

>>2710592
duh. You know for a fact I post here, after all.

And by the way, you really need to get the Techmanual for Battletech and learn to use it. I'd love to see the crimes against god you'd come up with out of it.

>>2710592
don't forget... I forget the name of them. The metal rings that let you see and move stuff through them at a 1-mile distance. I had players use them and a motherfucking ballista once on a "stealthy" attempt to assassinate someone. Pinning the duke to the wall of his privy with a bolt almost as long as the room was priceless, someone was burned for witchcraft as a result.

>>2710917
Having to be right next to them sort of defeats the purpose of sniping.