>>3010399
That fire thing is totally a thrull.

There's an old creature of Russian (or was it Polish?) legend that looks like a big comfy fur coat and lives in freezing cold areas. It lays itself out somewhere inviting and waits for people to put it on, then strangles them to death and slowly eats their remains.

I once had a sentient version of these coat-creatures, who was a nonviolent vegetarian whose favorite hobby was "being worn". Every once in a while the guy's coat would talk and it took almost the whole adventure arc for them to figure out what was going on.
The coat wasn't particularly insightful, threatening, or helpful. He'd talk rarely and he wouldn't say much. Every once in a while there would be an extra "hello" when they met someone, or someone would comment that "I'm hungry" or "It's cold in here" or "I think it might rain".
Also, any fruits/vegetables carried as rations would go pretty fast but no one really noticed.

>>3010443
It's a clockwork dragon. Or possibly a clockwork thrull? Used as one of the PC examples of the AT game system:
"Clockwork Dragon: A spark-spewing machination of higher technological mastery than any of the others. Capable of filling its internal reservoir with liquids for storage -- most notably oil, which it can spew in a jet of concentrated flame, one of the strongest attacks any toy can muster, assuming flame damage works in the situation. He's not slow, but he's awkward, given his physique and construction, and may need assistance overcoming certain height-based obstacles. He's far and away the most resilient though, and thus makes for an excellent distraction or endurance fighter: he's completely immune to the elements, and takes a fraction of the damage from cutting, tearing, scratching, and smashing that the others would, due to his thick and shiny shell. His immunities also make him great for crossing obstacles like open flames, and for special battle tactics: he may not take down an attacking rat with his slow arms, but he could grab one and drag it screeching into the fire with him."

>>3010494
I thought it was just a weird coincidence, but now I'm really wanting to play this game.

>>3010494
Clockworks must be the manliest soldiers ever.

"We may not win this battle, boys, but we'll take them to the junkyard with us. FOR THE TOY MAKER!"

>>3010494
>he may not take down an attacking rat with his slow arms, but he could grab one and drag it screeching into the fire with him
That is unspeakably hardcore.

>>3010525
But dragging the (comparatively) giant rats into the fire wouldn't hurt the clockwork soldier at all. It's like a suicide tactic, except the suiciding soldier doesn't actually die.

I once played an entire campaign focused around this very thing. Modern setting, household appliances, done in the style of "The Brave Little Toaster".
I was an old flash-bulb camera.

To our GM's credit, it was an insanely fun campaign, if silly at times, and it had some truly unsettling and epic encounters, including the assembly-line fabrication machine that came off less like a factory process and more like H.R. Giger's "Birth Machine".

>>3010541
Well, if it's a fireplace, there is the logs. If a piece of wood falls on the clockwork, it might not be able to get out from under, and if there isn't enough nearby clockworks to get him/her/it back, the clockwork will be damned to the fires.

>>3010580
Well it might be like a different kind of fire than a fireplace log fire.

>>3010601
Either way, you gotta admit, if there is someone like the Emperor (Toy Maker?), Clockworks would likely be the equivalent to the Death Corps of Krieg, just for the sheer fact that the only way to stop them would be killing them.

>>3010631
Fair enough. They do sound pretty fucking hardcore.

>>3010494
Are there blurbs like that for the other examples in the OP's image? Could you post them? That one sounds so awesome I need to know the others.

>>3010460
cloakers, Monster Manual 3

is OP's pic an actual game?

>>3010670
No, these are actual creatures of legend, and it was in a GURPS campaign, so while I'm sure D&D adapted their own version like they did with a lot of things, this was just based on the mythical version. Rumsifutsel or something like that.

>>3010682
It was a big concept/brainstorm thing, but no definitive rules were ever set to go with it, which I assume is what the OP's working on now. I figure it would use a really simplified system with a couple very basic attributes and traits, so the game could be fast, simple, and focused on player ingenuity over rulewhoring.

>>3010664
Sure thing.

Gem-encrusted Idol: Made of metal (or bone, maybe?) and resilient to scratching, heat, etc. while vulnerable to smashing, especially impacts by very hard objects. Decent agility but problems climbing/jumping due to lack of legs. Sharp arms do low base damage, with a high bonus against enemies weak to puncturing or slicing. Magic stones allow for minor mana storage and the casting of some VERY low-mana spells, mostly utility spells and detection, no straight offense. Lenses can focus light to ignite very-flammable objects or drastically heat up a target.

Clayman: Both faster and stronger than he looks, this incredibly dense fighter has mass going for him. He packs a lethal punch and can swing giant, two-handed tools and weapons if he can take a moment to embed them in his hands for a decent grip. The strongest melee fighter of the five of them, the Clayman is vulnerable (to some degree) to every kind of damage, be it cold or heat, cutting or smashing. But he's also the fastest to heal up: a case of raw clay or putty is lifeblood to this toy, who can pack it on to seal gaping wounds and puncture holes, as well as replace lost limbs or even build new ones. As he packs on more clay, he gets larger and more powerful, ever stronger. His malleable form is versatile and useful in a number of situations, and his flexible limbs keep him at least dextrous enough to clamber over most reasonable obstacles.

>>3010664
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/1990739/
One of my favorite archives. I'm pretty sure we even went over to /toy/ to discuss this.

Wooden Marionette: Very solid against crushing attacks, but weak to cutting and hacking, very vulnerable to fire. Best agility and dexterity by far, able to move quickly to places others could never reach and he's at no danger when at an extreme height. His strings allow creative attacks and grapples as well as enabling to climb and rappel. His offensive strength is in grappling, entangling, rapid-fire punches, and throws -- especially from high places. The only one with actual fully-functioning hands, the marionette can wield any weapon or tool with ease. (Shown here: a common matchstick.)

Last one anyway:

Cloth Poppet: A good all-around character, the poppet has great versatility in his abilities. He can use tools and weapons, store items better than any character, and can use string for self-healing as well as for utility and offense purposes. He can easily modify and improve himself, healing is a breeze, and even if a limb is permanently lost he can just sew himself a new one. He packs a decent punch and can decorate himself with sewing needles, pins, and any other objects he can reasonably affix, for a much deadlier offense. He's almost completely immune to crushing attacks, but weak to cutting and tearing, and fire is his greatest weakness -- he's a walking tinderbox.

>>3010716
We did. I remember it completely.

HOLY SHIT, IT'S AN ENTIRE NEST OF GINGERBREAD GOLEMS

>>3010752
No prob, I rolled up a Clockwork Knight.

>>3010716
Same. Awesome idea, could stand more discussion, and I'd love to see a fleshed-out simple system for it in order to be readily playable.
Also, poppet's the best character of the examples, anyone who disagrees is a faggot.

>>3010766
Enjoy getting your moving parts gummed up with mushy gingerbread and frosting.

>>3010752
I imagine gingerbread men would HAVE to come in big groups, because that's the only way they'd pose any threat at all.

>>3010752

GINGERBREAD GOLEMS? THOSE ARE THE MOST DELICIOUS GOLEMS OF ALL!

How could the vile panimancer have known my one weakness!?

>>3010788
Gingerbread men are the kobolds of Accursed Toys.
>>3010777
That's only if they get that close.

>>3010803
>Gingerbread men are the kobolds of Accursed Toys.
Which also means they have cunning traps and makeshift weapons to fuck you over when you least expect it.
You may be laughing now, but we'll see how funny it is when you're being hailed with jawbreaker cannons and gumdrop bombs.

>>3010771
>poppet's the best character

Fuck no. Clayman would tear him to pieces with his bare hands.

I'd hoard clay and just pack it all over myself until I was a gigantic, unstoppable hulking brute ready to RIP AND TEAR anything that got in my way.

This man and his friends are the tide turners for any fight. Various factions roam each and every realm (read: room), fighting with each other for territory. Fortunately for you, the party's knitter (general term for healer in the realm of the Parkin's family home) is an old friend of captain of this wandering squad of green men. A short discussion later, you find out that they are stalking a band of nomadic tans. The captain offers to help with passage to kitchen, but only if the party deals with the blockade set up further along by the sly dealing LEGO men. The choice is yours, /tg/, are you a doll, or an action figure?

>>3010912
>of the captain
Fix'd myself

>>3010898
Is that a fucking Tank?

I hate those fuckers.

Fuck yeah, I remember this!
Idea: dust bunnies as monsters or summoned minions

This is a cool thread.

This setting seems really well-suited to a sort of new take on a medieval fantasy realm. Going from a team of burly, powerful adventurers who can tackle giant dragons to a bunch of idols and tiny toys who consider housecats to be boss fights, I think it would offer an interesting and entertaining new perspective. There are a lot of staples of the genre and a lot of tiny nuisances, traps, monsters and items that would be interesting to explore in a new light.

At the same time, however, I could also easily see it being slightly modified to make a good base for a sort of violent, modern-day Toy Story-ish campaign.

rolled 87 = 87

Tangently related, a friend once played a talking teddy bear in a Mutants & Masterminds game.

He was called Mr. Snuggles, and he defeated enemies with the power of love and hugs.

>>3011022
I agree, I'd rather see a simple setting with poppets and totems than a modern setting with poseable action figures.

Then again, I prefer Kobolds to Dwarves, so my opinion's always been slanted in favor of simplicity and low-technology.

>>3011172
That's pretty much what the OP's asking for, and is awesome.

Do you mean he literally did love and hugs damage? How the hell did that work?

rolled 67 = 67

>>3011199

I think he DID, actually. But I can't be sure; I sat in for one session, but there wasn't any combat or anything going on, so I wasn't sure what his powers were other than being...well, a sentient teddy-bear.

Fuck, he even talked in a cutesy high-pitched voice and was ALWAYS OPTIMISTIC. "Mr. Snuggles says swearing is bad!"

rolled 55 = 55

>>3011219

Actually, wait. I remember: he gained his strength from the hopes and dreams of children, whose support and praise allowed him super-strength, speed, flight, and great fortitude in times of need. He defeated the Market Stalker in such a manner, his arch-villain, just above the foster home he first came to life in.

>>3011244
So he still just beat the shit out of people though right?

rolled 53 = 53

>>3011316

Yes, just with the power of WUV behind his tiny paws.

Think about how fucked up a toy would be mentally if he lived with a family of orcs.

>>3011334
Think how fucked-up a toy would be if he were the kind of toy an Orc family would want to have in the first place.

>>3011366

Fuuuck. I don't wanna play this imagining game anymore.

>>3011366
What the hell kind of toys WOULD an Orc play with, anyway?

I had a conan the barbarian action figure. He had an axe and a sword and he spun around in a circle when wound... That would be a sick boss fight

>>3011375

They would play with solidified pieces of death metal and kill each other when it became obvious that one of the children had more of the death metal collected than the others.

>>3011382
So you're saying one of the characters could feasibly be...

You mean to tell me I could play as DEATH METAL?
THAT IS SO FUCKING METAL.

Archived:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/3010399/

So how about some more discussion, while we're at it then?
Of the 5 character examples, which do you prefer?

>>3012082
Clayman, followed by Poppet.

>>3010803
>>3010797
>>3010788
>>3010777
>>3010752

>>3012092
Not only are they the character types I'd want to try as a player, but as a GM they have an easy source of motivation: materials. If I need to wing a session, I can just pull the "hidden jar of clay/box of thread" and have at least some of the players scurrying after it.

It would take some balance as a GM ensuring that not too much of either was ever gotten, nor too much ever taken away, but the options involved seem very cool. If anything, they seem to also be the characters with the most opportunity for long-term growth.

Poppet's a good balanced character. I'd imagine he plays pretty traditionally, and has a good grip on most situations. He's suitably quick, tough, and powerful, and his thread and malleable form make for a good jack-of-all-trades. His item carrying abilities are a boon.
Marionette's more of a roguelike character, whose diversity of ability really benefits him. His mobility and knack of working with his environment and the tools around him makes him unpredictable and adaptable. Strangling and dangling are a good combination.
Clayman's the perfect brute, able to heal and even grow stronger with his own raw material while soaking up damage and bashing everything that stands in his way to shit. I imagine he could even press glass shards and hard flakes into himself for armor.
Clockwork's a very unorthodox choice, who doesn't deal a lot of direct damage but doesn't suffer much either. Ingenuity, endurance, and stamina are his best assets and his ability to do burn damage make him a lateral thinker who takes on situations outside their standard rules.
Idol's the kind of character who always has an ace up his sleeve. He strikes me as something of a swiss army knife, and with spells, lenses, naturally sharp arms, and an affinity for more mystical/alchemical things at his disposal, he's got backup and solutions for any problem.

>>3012121
>>Clockwork's a very unorthodox choice, who doesn't deal a lot of direct damage but doesn't suffer much either. Ingenuity, endurance, and stamina are his best assets and his ability to do burn damage make him a lateral thinker who takes on situations outside their standard rules.

Actually, I think he'd play more as a 1-trick pony. When all you've got is fire, everything looks flammable.

>>3012148
But he doesn't have unlimited flame breath or anything, it's only a special power he can use when he manages oil. His mere ability to store fluid seems useful to me.

He's the toughest of all the characters and soaks up the most damage without injury, so he's a good tank or distraction, and he can traverse lots of obstacles the others can't.

Saying his only knack is fire is like saying the Poppet's only knack is his inventory.

Idol, Marionette would be my second choice.
The ability to wield a few spells -- even really simple ones -- could turn the tide and provide abilities no other character could dream of having.

>>3012165
Fair enough.

So, could I play a truck in this setting?

Poppet and Marionette would be my main choices, because to me one of the most interesting things in the setting is improvised weapons/armor, and they seem to excel at it more than the others. If the Marionette got his hands on a sharp fork, he'd kick some ass. And the Poppet could jab sewing needles all over himself, for spiked arms or an impaling back. They both specialize in a variety of damage types, so they can switch things up as needed. Impaling attacks won't work well against a stone figure, but they'd be lethal against a living creature. Further, Poppet's ability to sew and mend things would come in handy, and the Marionette's strange physiology and connection with his strings could make for some awesome solutions to puzzles, obstacles, and traps.

>>3012183
Assuming you were using a modern setting rather than a medieval fantasy one, sure.

I'd want to be some kind of religious totem, like the idol but even more vulnerable, but with more MAJICKS.

How about a wheeled toy that you pull back to rev up, then let go for a dash? With a humanoid top; perhaps it's an action figure whose bottom body half is incorporated into a vehicle. He could wheel around at a "walking speed" normally, but would have an unmatched burst speed--if he has room to back up first.

>>3012184
See, I figure damage types would be vital in this system. Crushing, cutting, impaling, burning, ripping, freezing damage -- all very significant rather than just an afterthought. For every situation, a critical weakness.
That's why I like the Idol.
He's got a natural access to cutting, stabbing, and burning damage, which seem like fairly rare damage types that would come in handy in a lot of situations. He could cut straight to the weakness of almost anything he encounters, and anything without a cut/stab/burn weakness is probably weak to crushing, and the rest of his team could easily handle that, since they all probably excel at crushing. While others would punch uselessly at a fabric doll, he'd be the master of RIP AND TEAR!

On that note, it strikes me that the Clockwork Dragon's fluid reservoir could make incredibly good use of even plain water. I'm sure there would be some otherwise-resilient enemies who could be dissolved, doused, stunned, or otherwise thwarted by an unexpected blast of water, and it would help bypass a lot of flame obstacles in addition to its handy implements as a utility device.

>>3012204
Sounds pretty awesome. A dasher who not only excels at evasion and sudden bolts for key items/locations when speed is a necessity, but also a master of tackle and overrun maneuvers. Good stunning power too, probably, and given a ramp and a runway he could reach areas almost no one else could.

I'd like to play a Clockwork or a Poppet in this setting. If only to fuck around with human NPC's. Makes me wonder how much XP killing a Human would give.

>>3012239
Bugs = Kobolds, Gnolls
Rats = Orcs
Cats = Giant fucking trolls
Dogs = Dragons
Humans = Tarrasque

>>3012251
Seems a bit too easy for a Poppet though. Just simply sneak into their bed while it sleeps and fucking jab em in the jugular with some needles a couple times. Then just sit down infront of their face when they wake up in shock after sticking said needles into my own neck for added creep-out factor.

>>3012259
I'm sure a lot of things could take down a grown human with no armor lying helpless and asleep if they managed to get right in their face. Clayman could suffocate, Idol could throat-slit, Clockwork could poison/gouge, Marionette could strangle (or, like the Poppet, just use a small blade).
But generally I imagine that kind of situation won't come up a lot. If you have a reason to kill a human he'll probably know of your existence, and thus will probably sleep lightly and have some manner of protection.

And an alert, combat-ready human will wreck your shit.

>>3012218
>>3012204
Okay, here's one new toy. What else can you come up with that follows the sort of toys described, /tg/? A few cool tricks/gimmicks, without being drastically more powerful than what we've seen so far. Preferably fits into the fantasy medieval-esque style of setting.

I've got to try something like this with a modified FATE now. Or maybe just shun mechanics and use the faster [d6-d6] method for task resolution, with bonuses or penalties applied as common sense dictates. Dice rolling would be at a minimum.

This could trump Shadows as the game I play with the kids I babysit.

>>3012289
Wooden totem: More vulnerable than the Idol, but with more divine/magical powers.

Charm: A cloth/string/plant material charm or ward. Small, adaptable, agile, and blessed with insane, uncanny luck (or similar power).

Stone Figure: Pros include being insanely powerful and tough, able to soak up damage without injury and lift heavy objects. Cons include lack of dexterity and brittleness. While he takes serious injury only rarely, if he does lose a limb his injuries are FAR more lasting than almost anyone else.

Masque: Low combat ability, good social ability. Has a number of special abilities, most notable of which is being able to communicate with almost anything that has even a modicum of thought, even low animals. A fast-talker who can even bridge the gap between man and toy by (for very limited times and with limited success) even communicating with humans.

Hoard: A makeshift-toy built from mud, twigs, leaves, bits of stone, and any other scraps found around. More easily damaged than most toys and readily loses limbs, but repairs faster than any other and can use almost anything as building material. Given the proper materials, can quickly go from a limbless stump to a shambling horror any enemy would be wise to run from. Pic related.

>>3012311
I'm not familiar with Shadows, but yeah that's kind of what I imagine this system for. Just lay out a basic combat system and a simplified skill system, and base everything around that. I imagine a sort of gutted GURPS-like system stripped to its necessities. Combat could use things like shock damage to determine temporary wounds that last until the end of battle, but added up in a single encounter they can result in dismemberment or other lasting injury. Most skill checks would be basic attribute +/- common sense modifiers at GM's discretion.

Attributes to make a toy template could involve things like:
"Stiff: Has limited mobility in joints. -1 SPEED, and -2 DEX when dealing with any sort of climbing/maneuvering."
"Flammable: Take 2x heat damage."
"Sticky: Able to cling to surfaces."

Things like that, with a price/penalty for attributes chosen.
I'm getting an idea here. I'm going to try to flesh this out a bit more, get it out on paper.

>>3012184
>>3012208
I actually think the Clay Dude would be better at improvising. Sure, he doesn't have fingers, but who needs fingers when you can jam weapons into your fists to make new, more awesome weapons?

By the way, if anyone didn't see this from the last archived thread, here's how a Poppet could be utterly awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=964QHmjLqa0

Did love the collapsible spear the one had.

>>3012320
Shadows is a very, very simple RPG that works well for little kids who won't remember lots of rules. Very interactive, and the mechanics that ARE there remind me of FATE.

http://www.harlekin-maus.com/games/shadows/shadows.html

>>3012357
Fuck yes, I was hoping someone would post this. It wasn't actually inspiration for Accursed Toys, but it fits the theme so fucking well it's uncanny. Even got the chest-cavity storage.
Awesome shit, really, and good evidence that an AT setting could be insanely fun.

>>3012259
I felt inspired

>>3012320
That could work pretty well. Unless you end up posting something awesome, I'll probably go with the SotC/FATE method, and use aspects to describe the toys, maybe try stunts as needed.

Then have several premade characters on hand for the PCs to choose from, and have them cool enough that not making their own isn't a drag.

I'd probably cut out all the social skills, and knock the physical ones down to Athletics, Might, Toughness, Weapons, Stealth, and Repair. Repair would cover how easily a toy could be put back together. Everything else (magic, fire, tools) would come down to stunts. For a grittier feel, skills wouldn't cap as high, and each stunt would lower the rate that fate points were refreshed.

I would play this setting.
Hell, I'd run a game.

>>3012427
You and me both.

>>3012442
>>3012427
You and You and Me Too.

>>3012316
Most of these are just stretching the first 5 ideas a little more in one direction or the other. However, the charm idea I really like, and it would work well with the FATE/SotC version of this that I'm looking at. While everyone else gets various stunts to help them out, the Charm makes it by having a sackful of fate points.

>>3012320
FUDGE is what you are looking for, it's a free pdf that you can google for, it is about ten pages long and does exactly what you want (because the entire point is you can make up rules)

I should have read the other thread through first. Someone statted the 5 originals up in Fudge already.

Idol
Attributes:
Durability: Great
Repairability: Terrible
Mobility: Poor
Strength: Good
Dexterity: Fair

Gifts:
Illusion magic
Heat objects with Eyes
Arms do Ripping damage
Half effect from fire and smashing damage
No effect from ripping or poking damage

Faults:
Unable to climb or jump
Unable to be repaired
Limited mana storage [1 spell per gem; starts with 4 gems]

>>3012646
There's also a few others statted up besides the 5 in the drawing. Plastic army men, wooden cars, and a few more I think. Definitely read the old thread, they got shit done. Really, what we need to stat are some generic enemies, and figure out how best to implement damage types in Fudge. Then there's more or less a working system, ripe for expanding on.

Relinking to the old thread:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/1990739/

bumping an epic thread

Wouldn't the Clayman be a very good puzzle-solver just due to his ability to take ANY form?

>>3012777
He must be specifically rolled by the other players, and experience which is intensely pleasurable.

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Accursed_Toys created, feel free to fill stuff in.

>>3012795
I've filled in the already-decided character info.

I played a tiny Earth Elemental once, does that count?

How about Grimdark toys?

>>3012996

Heh, The Plucker. That was a rather good book, with some very good artwork. It was very very grimdark though...

Scarecrow figurine: This toy focuses on scaring your enemies using magic and illusions. Well on the other hand the figurine is made of straw which makes him very easy to burn or slash. The figurine is best pair up with the poppet who can sew him together if he would die. The tactic is to pair him up with a heavy-hitter like the Clayman. Let you keep the creep (Pun intended) afraid and confused while the Clayman bashes it silly

>>3010494
I love this whole idea, but it seems to me that the Clockwork Dragon has like, no potential for progression when the other toys can learn things and augment themselves.

I mean, yeah, he can carry different kinds of liquids, but later on when the Clayman is ARGH FUCKING HUGERIPPED and the Poppet is bristling with needles, won't the Clockwork player feel a little left out?

>>3013390
Needles? Fuck no you're metal. The clay guy bugging you? Fire him. Or drag him screaming into a fire.

The Clockwork Dragon is METAL.

>>3012795
should they have skills? most doing stuff rolls in fudge are skills.

I wanna be a clockwork first, and then a clayman

I mean, come on. Don't you guys know how clockwork WORKS? Sure you don't get any bigger for a long time- Until you figure out how to finally get into that damn ancestral grandfather clock. And then, you can build yourself a nice new set of limbs.

ITT: underage b& who never heard of Puppetland the RPG

http://johntynes.com/revland2000/rl_puppetland_www.html

>>3013599
Upon further reflection, I really really REALLY wanna play one of those "scrapheaps" or "junkyards" or whatever someone was describing.

>>3013390
Clockwork is pretty buff.
He's hard to kill, can contain and shoot fluids (and ignite them, or maybe cool them?).

If you find a jar of acetone, guess who's walking around now with a bellyfull of flamable solvent?

Evil painting? Fire solvent at it and watch it melt.
Glue monster? Solvent.

If he could, you could have him maybe be a boiler too, so he could take in water and fire jets of steam.

somebody run this!

I'd play it.

>>3013390
Remember that just by being damaged, the clay guy is losing mass. Really, he'd be best off as an ambusher, to severely harm his enemies before they can whittle away his ability to hurt them.

I was thinking about this all last night, and trying to come up with a custom mechanic for it, rather than relying on generic systems like Fudge. Here's what I've got:

Your body is made of Components, usually starting with 5 or so. Each Component is made of a Material, and has Flexibility, Density, Durability, Hits, and types of damage it is either Immune to or Vulnerable to. Also, most Components have at least one Special.

The total Flexibility score of all your Components is sort of like your character's Dex - you roll it whenever you have to do some sort of climbing or dodging or whatever. Density, however, is like your Strength - how hard you can hit, your ability to manipulate objects. Durability and Hits are particular to each component - if you take damage, you roll a d-whatever to determine which Component gets hit. Durability functions like Damage Resistance in D&D, while Hits are obviously Hit Points. If the Hit Points for a Component drop to zero, you can no longer use that component, it just hangs dead off your body.

Damage types that you are Immune to can't hurt you, while Damage types that you're Vulnerable to bypass your Durability.

Individual Components might have Specials such as the ability to perform a Slashing attack, or the ability to store items inside yourself. Particularly rare Components will have magical abilities as their Special.

>>3012777
Well assumedly the clayman is made out of a stiffer putty, and while malleable he can't just will himself into any form he likes, he has to be molded that way and it takes time. He can't just shapeshift into whatever the hell he likes at a moment's notice, or that power will spiral rapidly out of control in an otherwise low-power world and you're going to be quickly dealing with a mini mary sue.

>>3013616
Puppetland sucks. A somewhat similar idea, but they went the wrong way with it. It was brought up in the original thread and dismissed.

>>3013970
I like this A LOT.

Perhaps when deciding which component gets hit, instead of leaving it to chance, the attacker can try for a specific piece, but has a penalty to hit it. So you could try to batter someone down entirely, or focus-fire specific components to disable their ability to fight back.

Also, some of the more potent enemies (say, a cat) might be able to damage more than one component at a time.

>Also, some of the more potent enemies (say, a cat) might be able to damage more than one component at a time.

Oh, absolutely. In fact, quite a few types of damage hit all components at once, such as being crushed beneath a heavy object or falling into fire.

>>3012357
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1jl41_9-nine-shane-acker-short-animation_creation

Better quality.

Marionette
Components: 4

Component: Strings
Material: Cloth. Immune: Crush, Impact, Pierce. Vulnerable: Burn, Slash.
Density: 0 Flexibility: 5 Durability: 0 Hits:2
Special: Allows for grappling attacks, allows nearly any component to be joined to any other.

Component: Body
Material: Wood. Immune: N/A. Vulnerable: Burn
Density: 2 Flexibility: 0 Durability: 2 Hits: 3
Special: None

Component: Limbs
Material: Wood. Immune: N/A. Vulnerable: Burn
Density: 1 Flexibility: 0 Durability: 2 Hits: 2
Special: +5 bonus to manipulating objects.

Component: Head
Material: Wood. Immune: N/A. Vulnerable: Burn
Density: 1 Flexibility: 0 Durability: 2 Hits: 2
Special: Anthropomorphic appearance allows character to give an Order once per day. An Order is a simple command - any animated object given an Order must make a save based on their number of Components or spend the next round doing as they're told.

Another potential PC type: Gak. A slightly viscous green puddle of watery glue and borax, he can ooze himself into anything that isn't watertight. Fire immune, piercing immune, vulnerable to crushing.

Also, Clockwork might be slightly improved if he had points or hooks at the end of his arms to let him climb any relatively soft surface.

This game is awesome already. I want to play a marionette that wields a shish-kebab skewer as a pike.

>>3014286

On second thought, leave Burn in as Vulnerability for the strings, but not the wooden pieces. Wood is harder to catch fire, and the Durability reflects that.

>>3014310
And if the strings component is destroyed, the Flexibility of the Marionette drops to zero, and he has to be carried around by the other players, right?

>>3014354
I'd imagine he can still move, just can't access special abilities that the strings enable, maybe gets a DEX penalty.

I think you guys are still looking at this from too complex a standpoint. I think a gutted GURPS system would probably be simpler to roll with than FUDGE.

>>3014286
So beautiful...

>>3014286
Stat up a clockwork thing, and an intelligent pile of scrap.

>>3014436
Clockwork Soldier
Components: 4

Component: Springs
Material: Metal. Immune: Burn, Pierce. Vulnerable: Crush, Tear.
Density: 0 Flexibility: 2 Durability: 0 Hits:2
Special: Can be wound up over the course of three rounds, then unleashed all at once for a +5 bonus to any attack or movement.

Component: Body
Material: Metal. Immune: Burn, Pierce. Vulnerable: Crush.
Density: 4 Flexibility: 0 Durability: 3 Hits: 5
Special: None

Component: Bayonette
Material: Metal. Immune: Burn. Vulnerable: Crush, Tear.
Density: 1 Flexibility: 0 Durability: 3 Hits: 1
Special: Allows character to make piercing attacks.

Component: Legs
Material: Metal. Immune: Burn. Vulnerable: Crush, Tear.
Density: 2 Flexibility: 2 Durability: 3 Hits: 2
Special: Allows +2 to all movement checks.

>>3014381
All right, I'll take a swing at a very lite GURPS system for this. Bear in mind Character Creation will be the most complicated part, so don't get thrown if it doesn't seem quite simple enough; it'll make everything else that much easier afterward.

>>3014286
>>Anthropomorphic appearance allows character to give an Order once per day. An Order is a simple command - any animated object given an Order must make a save based on their number of Components or spend the next round doing as they're told.

This is the only part I don't like. The Order thing seems a bit weird, but I can roll with that. If we base it off the drawing, how about teeth? Or, need every component have a special?

However, 1/day stuff is bad mechanics for this sort of game. 1/session or 1/fight works better.

Guy who did all the Fudge stats here. I'm going to post up the basic Fudge rules applicable to AT on the 1d4chan site, but I want to see how the Components thing works out.

Also, should I post up the stats for the other stat'd races on 1d4chan? They include: Gak Beast, Pewter Figurines, Plastic Army Men, Paper Creatures, and Lacquered Wooden Model Car.

>>3014436
Scrapheap
Components: 5

Component: Wood shavings
Material: Wood. Immune: Crush, Impact, Slash, Pierce. Vulnerable: Burn.
Density: 1 Flexibility: 1 Durability: 1 Hits:1
Special: None

Component: Crumpled Paper
Material: Paper. Immune: Crush, Impact, Pierce. Vulnerable: Burn, Slash, Tear.
Density: 0 Flexibility: 3 Durability: 0 Hits: 1
Special: None

Component: Handkerchief
Material: Cloth. Immune: Crush, Impact, Pierce. Vulnerable: Burn, Slash.
Density: 0 Flexibility: 4 Durability: 1 Hits: 1
Special: None

Component: Clay
Material: Clay. Immune: Impact, Pierce. Vulnerable: N/A.
Density: 2 Flexibility: 3 Durability: 2 Hits: 2
Special: Must be either kept in a container or moistened every hour, or it becomes Dried - Flexibility and Durability drops to zero, and it loses Immunities.

Component: Rotting Cabbage
Material: Organic. Immune: N/A, Vulnerable: Slash
Density 1 Flexibility: 1 Durability: 1 Hits: 5
Special: All living things must make an Intention check difficulty 5 or they cannot approach.

>>3014526
Go ahead and post it; having a couple different options for rules isn't a problem, and you did a good job.

Although the Components idea seems to be perfect for the concept. This might be the first time I see /tg/ get shit done all the way.

I suggest leaving out abilities like Order though. This will be a cooler system if it leaves out the D&D 1/day crap. The windup for the clockwork soldier is a great idea.

Clearly, some Components are better than others. I'm picturing a long list, with each one having a point cost, with simple rules for how to create your own Component. Then, during character creation, you have a maxiumum number of Components, and a number of points to spend.

Fudge stats
----------
Plastic Army Sgt.
Attributes:
Durability: Fair
Repairability: Poor
Mobility: Fair
Strength: Mediocre
Dexterity: Good

Gifts:
Platoon [4 extra soldiers; identical stats to above]
Teamwork - when all five soldiers work together on a check, they get a +2 bonus to the roll. If 3 or more soldiers work together

on a check, they get a +1 bonus.

Faults:
Small
Vulnerable to Fire
Weak [1 less Scratch, Light wound, and Deep wound]

>>3014626
Eh, this could also be done with the players never seeing the rules. They present their idea, and it's assembled with components by the GM (who could also use a list with a number of premade toys). Some components really don't belong with each other, but a powergamer would concoct some reason for them to be joined up.

Meanwhile, I think the Immune thing is really powerful and should be limited--perhaps each component can be completely immune to only 1 damage type. Perhaps have "Resists" as an attribute, but right now it looks like some components are indestructible.

>>3014650
Pewter Miniature [Orc]
Attributes:
Durability: Good
Repairability: Poor
Mobility: Fair
Strength: Fair
Dexterity: Mediocre

Gifts:
Platoon [4 extra minis; identical stats to above]
Teamwork - when all five soldiers work together on a check, they get a +2 bonus to the roll. If 3 or more soldiers work together

on a check, they get a +1 bonus.
Half effect from Fire and Ripping damage

Faults:
Small

----------

Lacquered Wooden Model Car
Attributes:
Durability: Good
Repairability: Poor
Mobility: Superb
Strength: Good
Dexterity: Poor

Gifts:
Extremely fast movement
Heavy load carrier (many items, wounded comrades, etc)
Half effect from Ripping, Poking damage

Faults:
Cannot climb or jump without ramps
Difficulty traveling uphill and on rough terrain
Individual pieces cannot be repaired well, must be replaced

>>3014526
>>3014650
>>3014708
Er, sorry. I thought you were asking about posting them to 1d4chan. In this thread we have several links to the old thread with the Fudge stats already.

>>3014724
Paper creature
Durability: Poor
Repairability: Mediocre
Mobility: Great
Strength: Mediocre
Dexterity: Good

Gifts:
Foldable
2D
Immune to Smashing damage
Half effect from Poking damage

Faults:
Vulnerable to Fire and Water
Weak [1 less Scratch, Light wound, and Deep wound]

----------

Gak Beast
Durability: Fair
Repairability: Great
Mobility: Great
Strength: Good
Dexterity: Fair

Gifts:
Half effect from Smashing and Poking damage
Amorphous form
Shapeshifter

Faults:
Vulnerable to Ripping damage
Inarticulate Speech

>>3014570
>>3014512
>>3014286
Would like the rest of the 5 originals (and any others you'd like to do) statted up by you, this is really really good.

>>3014732
Oh, my bad. These were all I was posting anyway. I'll post them up there, too.

And these rules never made it to the old thread, so I'm going to post them here as well. Might help inspire some basic mechanics for the new version:
In combat, turn order is decided by Mobility, highest goes first. Each toy gets 2 actions per round. As 1 action, you can move or make a skill check.

As is standard for Fudge, to hit with an attack you roll an attack skill roll against their defense skill roll. Your Dexterity is added to your Attack roll, and the target's Mobility is added to their Defense roll.

To deal damage to a target once you hit, you roll Strength against their Durability. If you equal their Durability [Good vs. Good, for example] you deal a scratch. If you beat them by 1 [Great vs. Good], you deal a Light Wound. If you win by 2 [Superb vs. Good], you deal a Deep Wound. If you win by 3 [Legendary vs. Good], you deal an Incapacitating wound. If they are Vulnerable to your attack, you get a +2 to this roll. If they are Resistant to this attack, you have a -2 to this roll. If they are immune to your attack, you never deal damage.

>>3014794
The damage types are Crushing, Poking, Ripping, Water, and Fire. Most toys are immune to Water damage; exceptions will be noted.

Toys have 4 scratches, 2 Light wounds, 2 Deep wounds, and 1 Incapacitating wound. If you take a wound but already have all the wounds for that level, you take a wound of one level higher.

Normally, light wounds would give penalties to rolls, but toys do not feel pain. Deep wounds cause enough damage to give a -1 to any roll related to the injured body part, however. An Incapacitating wound is one that stops the toy from being able to move at all. If they take more damage than an Incapacitating wound, they die.

How far you move in one action is based on Mobility:

Terrible: 3 inches

Poor: 6 inches

Mediocre: 9 inches

Fair: 12 inches

Good: 15 inches

Great: 18 inches

Superb: 24 inches

>>3014794

Sticking these into the Mechanics section could help. Anybody willing to draw for this would be nice too. I might have a go at a Template: ToyStats.

>>3014806

Repairing wounds depends on your Repairability level. In all cases, you need the appropriate materials for the repair.

Terrible: Over 3 hours, someone else can repair you of 1 wound with an appropriate Repair skill check.

Poor: Over an hour, someone else can repair you of 1 wound with an appropriate Repair skill check.

Mediocre: Over ten minutes, someone else can repair you of 1 wound with an appropriate Repair skill check.

Fair: Over a minute, someone else can repair you of 1 wound with an appropriate Repair skill check.

Good: Over half a minute, you can repair yourself of 1 wound with an appropriate Repair skill check.

Great: As 2 actions, you can repair yourself of 1 wound with an appropriate Repair skill check.

Superb: As an action, you can repair youself of 1 wound with an appropriate Repair skill check. If not destroyed, you can repair yourself using the materials that were injured.

Repair skills: The target's Repairability attribute modifier is added to your Skill roll. To remove a scratch, you need to roll Good or better. To repair a Light wound, you need Great or better. To repair a Deep Wound, you need Superb or better. To repair an Incapacitating wound, you need to roll a Legendary or better.

>>3014813
I did post them up there; just copying them here for... well, for just because.

bump

I'm proud of you, /tg/. Shit got done.

What we need: more toy ideas that fit with the theme and have some manner of uniqueness, and more toys statted up with the Components mechanics (as good as the Fudge work was, the Components idea is brilliant).

component idea isn't just brilliant, it's fucking gold

>>3015010
So...
gold > brilliance?

How about for the Marionette's head component, there's some sort of fear effect? That face is fucking scary. Look at those teeth. Maybe have it so that if you pop out of hiding and startle an enemy, it has to save or haul ass in the other direction?

Alternately, the Cheshire cat. Perhaps the marionette has great stealth abilities, able to fade away into the shadows even while being observed... except for that toothy grin hanging in the air.

>>3015063
negative

( gold + brilliance ) > brilliance

>>3015069
Fuck yes seconding Cheshire Cat ability.

Poppet could barely see. The tall file cabinets throughout the room, many with drawers hanging open, meant almost none of the dim light reached the ground. And his precious light-stick was gone, the bulb a pile of glass shards now a thousand paces behind.

Clayman didn't like it. "He could be hiding anywhere in this mess. And look there--strings going from each of these towers to the next. He's waiting for us, Poppy. Probably watching us right now, ready to do what he did to Idol. Only this time he'll--"

Poppet held up his arm for quiet. "Listen." There was a light scraping sound, followed by several clicks. The sound seemed to come from all around the pair. Poppet pulled out his largest pin, carefully sharpened to a fine point. "He's here. Be careful."

"How are we even supposed to reach him, Poppy? He's like some sort of spider!" Poppet turned to shush him again, saw what he'd been dreading. A smile of gleaming teeth hung in the air behind Clayman, and a pair of arms had flung a thin wire around his leg, pulling the ends together with a quick jerk. Clayman fell heavily, and Poppet rushed forward to his friend's aid. Too late, he stabbed at the smile, already halfway up the cabinet; in a moment, it had vanished.

A rasping laugh echoed around the room. Poppet stood over his friend, who was desperately working to reattach his leg, completely absorbed in the effort. A glint of light caused Poppet to spin, and he froze. Several paces in front of him was Marionette, holding a match. His wide grin shone from the flame.

>>3015533
what happened to Idol?

>>3015658
Marionette shoved him off a high table.

I thought they were all supposed to be teammates.

>>3015688
They were, for a while. Until Marionette took one too many hits to the head.

Do want moar of this.

>>3016015
Do also want.

Mockup of a character sheet in the system I'm laying out.

I know it probably looks more complicated than it needs to be, but character creation is the most complex part of the game. Once it's done you'll have a solid foundation and quick reference for anything you or the GM may need.

>>3016480
Seems good. Where can I look up the rules for this system?

>>3016509
Still working on it. It's a GURPS-Lite system whittled down to some basics and running on D6 as a base for all rolls. The only thing I'm having a little trouble with is figuring out the HP system, but I think I've come up with a good solution for it. I'll post it all once I've gotten the full ruleset down, and it should be pretty much playable right off the bat.

Accursed Toys you say?

>>3016563
Kinda surprised how long it took for that to appear

>>3016563
Huh?

>>3016604
Fuck yeah, Boppin'! Did you ever get to that level with the green things and diamonds at the top?

>>3016480
Looks pretty cool.

Hi guys, I'm an animated gold piece VoP monk.

Have the PC's play two characters

===Jack-in-Box===
The Jack-in-Box is probably one of the more versatile toys around. With its coiled spings for its quick strikes and the fact that he can hold many weapons in his box, as well as keep enemies trapped and cut up by the springs themselves. With the springs the Jack-in-Box has many uses puzzle wise and can reach those hard to reach places. On the other hand his movement is kind of lacking and breaking off parts from him would really slow him down a lot, but hey at least you can tell your parents that the Jack-in-Box they got you as a gift one year was really creepy.

Attributes:
:Durability: Great
:Repairability: Poor
:Mobility: Mediocore
:Strength: Great
:Dexterity: Great

Gifts:
Quick Strikes
Storage
Long Reach/Extending Arms

Faults:
Susceptible Springs
Loud Movement
Hard to replace pieces.

>>3018516
Awesome.

/tg/.
we get shit done.

>>3010399
GODDAMNIT WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED THIS WAS GOING TO BE FUN

>>3018562
At the end of the day, we have a fully functional FUDGE mod for Accursed Toys, and someone working up a components-based GURPS Lite version. What is not fun here?

Everyone in this thread should
A) Learn German
B) Play "Plush, Power and Plunder"

>>3018604
Because /tg/ banding together and making something cool and exciting is sooooo much worse than everyone learning a second language so they can play an obscure yet similar game.

So i think i'm gonna run some friends though this setting using the Mutants and Masterminds system. 500-750 point value for character creation, maybe?

>A short discussion later, you find out that they are stalking a band of nomadic tans.
This made me so happy for some reason.

>>3018547
I'm happy that this thread is one of the exceptions to the pic.

>>3010912
Are these playable?

And can you be a clockwork whatever, or just a clockwork dragon?

Woot, more original content!

>>3020644
The idea is that you can play any sort of toy you want. Some of the better ideas were fleshed out.

>>3020644
Yes: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Accursed_Toys#Plastic_Army_Sgt.

As for alternate Clockworks, I'm not sure.

Bump for best thread in ages.

So how does this work exactly when making starting/example characters in balancing the stats? If you say have 1 God, you need 1 mediocre in exchange?

>>3021535
I'd imagine that's how it works

bump until I get a chance to read all this awesome

IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE DISTANT PIXAR THERE IS ONLY POSSESSED TOY WAR

Toy soldiers, you say?

>>3022797
I do say!

>>3022797

>>3018516
Jack can leave his box

>>3023322
Pretty sweet.

This thread will not die until auto-sage.

Fuck Yeah, Accursed Toys!

I was around for the first thread, and I've been waiting for this for months.

The component idea sounds nice, but I'm going to take the Fudge framework, and run a game with it. Thanks /tg/.

Bump for awesome.

And possibly some moar.