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    44 KB Dinotopia Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)04:43 No.3512990  
    Hey guys, I was thinking of doing a campaign with some people in my dorm set in dinotopia, I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions or has done this before.

    wiki here for anyone that hasn't read it:

    The first book mostly just describes the setting with lost of badass pictures of dinosaurs, so I'd just need to flesh it out and come up with modified game mechanics. What system would be best?

    The PCs would be able to choose to be either a dinosaur, dolphinback (shipwrecked human) or 2nd-3rd-whatever generation dinotopiain human. there's also the possibility to do a rainy basin predator campaign. PCs are a pack of raptors? FUCK YEAH.

    so a system with lost of dinosaurs already listed would be pretty good, also it need to be fairly flexible to allow creation of a wide variety of dinos.

    Why the fuck have there not been dinosaur heavy RPG books?

    obviously something needs to happen to disrupt the peace of dinotopia to get shit happening, maybe Crab Lee fucking everything up trying to escape?

    there;s also all that lost technology in the caves underground and shit.

    Fuck you can be a triceratops and bash someone with your head and stab them 3 times at once.

    there also needs to be some way to balance human and dino PCs, also what classes would be good? maybe restrict the players to medium size dinosaurs? maybe guns get on the island somehow?

    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)04:47 No.3513017
    I would suggest the players just be humans. Dinosaurs don't have hands, which hiders gameplay quite a lot. At the very least, restrict them from being big dinosaurs, due to brokenness and not being able to enter buildings
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)04:48 No.3513020
    Why don't you have an original idea instead? What is holding you back?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)04:52 No.3513038
    Why don't you contribute rather than troll? What is holding you back?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)04:52 No.3513042

    Some of the... veggie-raptors? IDK. do have hands and are intelligent.

    Likewise, larger bipeds (including carnivores) with ineffective hands could still be good pure martial characters.

    So, yea, OP. DO IT FAGGOT.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)04:54 No.3513050
    thats a bit rude, dont you think?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)04:54 No.3513052
    crap, sorry for shitting up /tg bro. I guess I'll just lead them through a generic fantasy world with my LG drow DMPC.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)04:54 No.3513055
    I am contributing, I am trying to stop him.

    There is a global depression coming, lot's of people are going to lose their jobs, and those of us who have real skills are the only ones capable of coming out on top. This is no time for escapism.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)04:56 No.3513067
    Then get of /tg/ and get a job.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)04:57 No.3513070
    get out dinofag
    >> BowlerHatMan !!hZDPsoEDBxR 01/25/09(Sun)04:57 No.3513073
    Some varieties of dinosaurs ought to be playable due to their having hands.

    System-wise, I'd run it in Spirit of the Century. In retrospect, a lot of the books just feel like they'd be perfect in that game system, and Lee Crabb seems like the perfect pulp villain.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)04:58 No.3513076
    shut down the internet, we all need to grab a second job to survive the depression.
    >> BowlerHatMan !!hZDPsoEDBxR 01/25/09(Sun)04:58 No.3513080
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    Also, stop feeding the trolls and focus on the subject matter, eh?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:02 No.3513103
    Watched the movie. It's a touchy-feely piece of shit kids film about how we can all become strong by helping each other, or some bullshit like that. I cried halfway through because, although one of the two main characters has this exact same outlook on Dinotopia, I knew that he would learn an important life lesson about the value of friendship by the end of the movie.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:04 No.3513113
    I've actually played in a one off 3.5 campaign where the PCs were all animals who found themselves awakened after drinking from a water hole with some magic bits in it. We were also given a PHG class IIRC we were a sorcerer bird, monk cheetah, barbarian bear, and something else?

    the campaign centered around trying to figure out WTF was going on, interacting with humans (that we had no way of talking to) and trying to figure out how to maintain our awakened status.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:05 No.3513115
    >first book

    Holy shit there's more than one? That was my favorite book as a child.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:06 No.3513124
    No need to go that far, just stop roleplaying.
    Even if you are studying, get a hobby which gives you a practical skill.

    >> BowlerHatMan !!hZDPsoEDBxR 01/25/09(Sun)05:06 No.3513128
    The movie (and subsequent show) suck. Instead of being light years ahead of the rest of the world, Dinotopia was a primitive (if utopian) backwater. Moreover, the writing was nowhere near as good and the acting was so bad it makes any given episode of Crusoe seem brilliant by comparison.

    For once, it's not snobbish to say "the books are better".
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:06 No.3513130
    The third just came out. It's pretty great.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:08 No.3513139
    yeah, there are quite a few now I think. Was the TV show any good or is it as predictable as the above poster describes?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:09 No.3513145
    Your DM is a furry. Kill him.
    >> BowlerHatMan !!hZDPsoEDBxR 01/25/09(Sun)05:10 No.3513149
    Also, Dinotopia: Lost is a surprisingly good read as an adult.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:13 No.3513167
    I say the players each have a human and a dinosaur character. Almost all the things in Dinotopia have a human with a dinosaur best buddy.
    Maybe make them juvenile dinosaurs so they aren't fuckhueg.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:15 No.3513174
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    Dinotopia is for fags.
    >> BowlerHatMan !!hZDPsoEDBxR 01/25/09(Sun)05:16 No.3513181
    Not having to worry about your fuckhueg dinosaur buddy would take a lot out of what made the travels of the first book so interesting. A dinosaur that proves useful in one region can rapidly become a liability in another, and it'll just about never be an issue one way or another in a developed region.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:17 No.3513184
    Or they can be adorable ones like Compys. :3
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:19 No.3513201
    Didn't everyone get over that whole dinosaur thing in the ninties?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:21 No.3513215
    Dinosaurs are an obsession from six to twelve.

    Perhaps you outgrew them in the nineties like I did?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:23 No.3513233
    We had dinotopia, Jurrasic Park that fucking monthly dinosaur magazine which sold dinosaur parts like the 'My Body' series, so there is an excuse....

    Still, I shouldn't be talking to six to twelve year olds, I should be talking to twenty-something's like myself.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:24 No.3513240
    The exception: Tyranosaurus Rex in F-16.

    Which is awesome at all ages.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:24 No.3513242
    I know you two are trolling but maybe you'd be more believable if this weren't a board for manchildren who play pretend and toy soldiers.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:26 No.3513251
    have the players as humans paired with a dino of their choise.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:26 No.3513252
    I remember reading the first book way back when, then looking for dinotopia on a world map. to my 7 year old mind Australia looked exactly identical, I was so happy that dinosaurs are real.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:28 No.3513273
    i loled before remembering doing the same thing

    Also Aussie Aussie Aussie
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:28 No.3513275
    We all like Calvin and hobbes, it is true.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:29 No.3513282
    >I was so happy that dinosaurs are real.

    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:32 No.3513311
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    looks like we've got PROMOTIONS
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:34 No.3513326
    Help, my son went to flying school and came out a faggot.
    Tinme to go underground!
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:37 No.3513347
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    excuse me, can I get of this fucking island now!
    >> BowlerHatMan !!hZDPsoEDBxR 01/25/09(Sun)05:37 No.3513352
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    The fact that Dinotopia has dinosaurs is incidental. It's an incredibly well-developed setting, so much so that it's a shame that the fluff sections of actual campaign settings aren't written and illustrated in the same style as Dinotopia. It can be as steampunk as you want it. It can handle court intrigue, airship adventuring, dungeon delving, SCIENCE!, ARCHAEOLOGY!, exploration, deep-sea adventuring, and even film noir-style storylines. It can be as steampunk as the group wants it to be, it can be as primitive as the group wants it to be, and it opens itself up extremely well to the whims of the players.

    In fact, fuck it. I'm running a seafaring game soon. I'll lift Dinotopia wholesale and drop the island into it just because. Maybe give them a political isolationist policy instead of reefs keeping people from coming and going so it doesn't fuck over players who want to keep going with the seafaring...
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:40 No.3513374
    there's always that lost technology underground if they want to escape, submarines and shit. That could be an adventure it's self to work with crab and GTFO.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:40 No.3513378
    Wait, what?

    Isn't his son boning the chick?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:41 No.3513383
    here is a cross section diagram of just how much you need to get a job
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:42 No.3513389
    thats exactly my point, obviously there's gonna have to be some modifications to make it less care-bear, maybe each major city is it's own faction or w/e.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:43 No.3513394
    Make them quest for those crystalpunk dinosaur machines.
    >> BowlerHatMan !!hZDPsoEDBxR 01/25/09(Sun)05:44 No.3513401
    True, but I try to not restrict the freedom of my players for longer than two sessions. The adventure of wandering around an island they may or may not be interested in until they find out about a potential way out would take at least half a session, and the adventure of getting there and off the island would take another three or four sessions. It just seems like bad form overall.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:45 No.3513412

    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:47 No.3513420
    just have crab lee be the first one to find them when they wreck, he'll try to persuade them that he knows a way out / the dinosaurs are savage / w/e
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:49 No.3513438

    >Crab Lee

    Is this... japanese dinotopia?
    >> BowlerHatMan !!hZDPsoEDBxR 01/25/09(Sun)05:49 No.3513441
    If you've read Lost, you know it doesn't take much to take the setting from being "care-bear" and turning it into something dangerous. Introduce a Lee Crabb or some pirates that managed to get over the reefs or really any antagonist that fits your party and things can get grim fast. After all, Dinotopia, just like any other "nation" (real or imagined) only works because a critical mass of its populace plays by its rules. There will always be some malcontents stirring things up.

    If you want to take the easy road of grimdarkan the setting though, you could just run a mash-up, like Dinotopia/Fight Club or Dinotopia/Transmetropolitan.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:50 No.3513445
    Lee is chinese you fag.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:52 No.3513455
    Think "Holy shit, these ancient dudes cut crystals so perfectly that they could trap the power of sunlight!" not "Duuuuuude, pass the bong."
    >> BowlerHatMan !!hZDPsoEDBxR 01/25/09(Sun)05:52 No.3513458
    That could work, but something about turning Dinotopia into a politically isolated nation that heavily restricts exports, tourism, and emigration but turns away no immigrants seems vastly more interesting in the broader scale of a seafaring campaign.
    >> Lived 01/25/09(Sun)05:57 No.3513495
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    My brother would be pleased, got to meet Gurney in DC.

    Pic related, fuckin TALKING DINOSAURS.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)05:58 No.3513498
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)06:01 No.3513517
    Either way it is still 'dude pass the bong'.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)06:05 No.3513539
    No stoner has ever built a mechanical dinosaur powered by sunlight that is trapped in crystals.

    As far as I know.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)06:08 No.3513555

    Shit, they're onto us!
    >> BowlerHatMan !!hZDPsoEDBxR 01/25/09(Sun)06:10 No.3513570
    You aussies have no dinosaurs. Only kangaroos, platypi, drop bears, and ungodly spiders.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)06:11 No.3513577
    You're forgetting that we have the majority of the world's most poisonous snakes too.

    Is it any wonder that we don't have dinosaurs?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)06:12 No.3513583

    It's a well known fact that snakes are to dinosaurs what mice are to elephants.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)06:13 No.3513588
    No body has ever done that, it it all a children's story. Hence twenty-something's still being entralled by it is due pass the bong.

    Please leave the pretend-o-sphere.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)06:13 No.3513593
    I had... three Dinotopia books as a kid; maybe four. They rocked so hard. You could finish them really quickly, but the idea and world was very detailed.

    Show was hideous. Hurt my brain with its heresy.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)06:14 No.3513599
    Yep, that's true, and that thing floating in the river is just a log, why don't you go ride it?
    >> BowlerHatMan !!hZDPsoEDBxR 01/25/09(Sun)06:16 No.3513612
    Not all fantasy is the result of drugs, alcohol, or mental illness. Some of it is just pure escapism, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as it doesn't hurt one's real life.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)06:19 No.3513634
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)06:23 No.3513669
    HOLYSHIT! I have that book!!

    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)06:34 No.3513755
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)11:38 No.3515122
    The books looked awesome, but when I saw the movie it made me rage hard.

    Their society was just so creepy. They were pacifists but that didn't stop them being dicks to anyone who wasn't a massive conformist like them. I really wanted the main characters to start busting heads and show them why pacifism - while noble in itself - is incompatible with being a huge authoritarian prick.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)11:40 No.3515128
    Also there's nothing wrong with having hueg PCs. In fact that's my favourite thing about FF's mechamorphs game, you can have one guy who turns into a motorbike and another who turns into a sprawling lab complex.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)11:42 No.3515137
    Yeah, the movie made the whole thing feel really cultish.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)11:58 No.3515232
    In the books the only advanced technology in Dinotopia proper was the submarine that was built by a shipwrecked outsider other than that dinotopia was straight outta tha 16th century. You're probably thinking of the sunken city that they discovered in the first book, which had all the energy crystals and steampunk styled vehicles.

    Would you really want to introduce the concept of violence into a society whose members can kill you with a flick of their head?
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)12:00 No.3515252
    Sorry, the sunken city was in the third book.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)12:01 No.3515258


    That's my childhood right there. Good times.
    >> Anonymous 01/25/09(Sun)12:03 No.3515269
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    >Would you really want to introduce the concept of violence into a society whose members can kill you with a flick of their head?

    In a heartbeat.
    >> Shas'o R'myr !!TZikiEEr0tg 01/25/09(Sun)12:04 No.3515280

    >Would you really want to introduce the concept of violence into a society whose members can kill you with a flick of their head?

    That's why you wait until you have the better weapon first.

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