01/26/09(Mon)07:24 No. 3523752 The Three Worlds series, three series right now and soon to be four, by Ian Irvine. Character-driven Fantasy with other races and magic and things, but remarkably realistic for that. Big bonus points for characters with realistic motivations and none of those stupid EVIL AN GOOD characters. All sorts of complex morality and will make you simulatenously hate and love some of the relative villains whereas some of the villains you will want to reach through the page and punch in the face. Good setting, magic has rules, and eventually those rules are structured and codified like they should be. Nations have different styles, geographies, cultures and people. good potential for makign a setting. Also, surprisingly grim. With a handful of exceptions things always get worse, and sometimes they get horrifically worse. If things get better it's usually so they can get even worse than before. for example, from the first book of the second series there is no permanent let-up in worsening until the last book of the third series, seven in total. If you need happy endings on a regular basis this is not your set of series. However, it does utterly shatter many of the more persistent and annoying fantasy story tropes. If you have any ability to empathise with characters you will probably end up raging at how unfair fictional life is at several points. Also, while the main story of each series is self-contained, the fucker spreads some plotlines over multiple series, some of which are going to be over at least fourteen books. IF YOU DIE IN A CAR CRASH I AM GOING TO FOLLOW YOU INTO DEATH TO PUNCH YOU IN THE FUCKING FACE FOR NOT FINISHING THE FUCKING STORY.