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    38 KB Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:44 No.3630679  
    So /tg/ my DM is notorious for making up the strangest and encounters, but I think this time he has really done it.

    Our party consists of a Rogue, Knight, Samurai, Warlock and Cleric, our campaign is based around climbing this giant tower that harbors evil spirits and curses the land and people nearby. Each floor sort of transports us to a place in history where something significant happens, and after we deal with it, we advance to the next floor.

    My DM loves history, and he uses historical figures in his campaigns... The first "boss" encounter we had during this campaign was Emperor Nero... the whole damn time we fought nero, he played his harp as Rome burned to the ground. The DM put on some harp music, we assumed it didn't mean anything and went on to kill his guards. Near the end of the song, it reached its climax and he told us to make a will save. As it finished, Nero shot a level 8 empowered/maximized Fireball at the party, nearly killing us... and since then we have been afraid of people who appear not to be in combat. I mention this now, because of the encounter I'm going to have tonight.

    Our session ended right before the battle would have started. The DM told us he stopped at that point so he could "let us think about this encounter".

    The room we are in is some grand auditorium. And there appears to be a friggin Orchestra in the middle, and not just a couple of people, like a huge group of people (maybe 80+) playing various instruments. He described the conducter, then showed us this picture of what he looked like.

    /tg/ my DM is making me fight Ludwig van Beethoven. What should I expect him to do? How should the group deal with this encounter?

    TL;DR How I kill Beethoven?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:46 No.3630693

    Polymorph a bard into Amadeus Mozart and show him up with a massive concert of your own via illusion magic?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:46 No.3630698
    Run away then sneak up on him, he is deaf as shit.

    Also Nero didn't burn down Rome like most people believe.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:48 No.3630706
    Our characters failed the knowledge history check so they have no idea who this guy is.
    >> Masterwork Bastard !DOD3/eopFI 02/06/09(Fri)11:50 No.3630734
    Head straight for him, obviously. Also, cast Silence. All problems solved.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:51 No.3630742
    Wait, Beethoven is a historical figure in your campaign?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:52 No.3630748
    yeah but beethovan is the conducter. I don't know if he is going to cast spells through the orchestra or cast them himself.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:53 No.3630753
    If they can't cast silence then they should just make as much noise as possible and disrupt the music.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:53 No.3630757
    Use his mentor, Joseph Haydn to confuse him.
    Prey on his beginning deafness.
    Use dishamonic arhythmia to meet his symmetric counterpoint.
    And for god's sake don't mention solenm joy and things like that, it's his power base.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:54 No.3630764
    If he's deaf and in the middle of conducting the orchestra, that would be when to strike.

    Since he's deaf, I assume he's going to have some sort of bullshit ninja-esque sixth sense to compensate for it, so figure out attacks and spells that he can't feel the vibrations of.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:55 No.3630771

    Either way, removing Beethoven solves the problem.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:55 No.3630772
    Have everyone clap out of time.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:55 No.3630780
    Awsome DM.
    Also, I'm reminded of the suicide-inducing music from Read or Die. Just put some corks in your ears, or try to disrupt the orchestra by taking out a significant portion of the players.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:56 No.3630786

    Run. Ludvig Van was motherfucking hardcore. He directed like he was possessed by the devil.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)11:59 No.3630818
    PROTIP: Nero did not play anything as Rome burned, not a harp, nor a fiddle (which hadn't been invented yet anyway)
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:00 No.3630825
    I don't think he has noticed us yet, and it looked like he was beginning...

    Is there a particular song I should be afraid of that has constant high notes and fast pacing?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:00 No.3630827
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    The Japanese already figured out a way.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:01 No.3630837
    what is this from?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:02 No.3630846
    Sing anti-phase to their music and cancel it out. Problem solved!
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:02 No.3630847
    Or just snipe Beethoven.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:02 No.3630848

    Or maybe he _IS_ the Devil. Who said he was gone?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:03 No.3630857

    Damn. Now I suppose you're going to tell him that Magic has never truly been used in combat before either.

    Whether Nero played a harp, a fiddle, with his penis, or not at all, I think that was hugely creative of the DM.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:07 No.3630888
    Your first order of business is finding out if this is real Beethoven, or an alternate Beethoven that accepted Mephistopheles' deal for immortality. If it's the latter, you're fucked.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:13 No.3630924
    if he plays Moonlight Sonata, just run in there and try to kill him as soon as possible... Don't let him play anything else.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:14 No.3630941

    There are several possibilities.

    1.He takes control of one or more party members and “directs them”.
    2.The DM makes you fight 9 bosses themed to the symphonies.
    3.He fights you head on while the orchestra uses various sonic attacks that don't affect him since he is deaf.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:16 No.3630955
    Steal his stick. It's a wand.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:17 No.3630968
    Oh.. god is that from the Transiberean Orchestra? Wow... That'd be pretty badass of the DM. Of course the OP would be dead along with his party and his entire family, but badass regardless.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:24 No.3631011
    I thought about the symphonies... and I know that one of them was dedicated to Napoleon Bonaparte.. I don't want to have to fight him too. I'm hoping he just casts sonic spells at different periods of the song, but my DM loves Beethoven so I'm expecting the worst.
    Beethoven often conducted with his hands alot, I don't think taking his baton will slow him down.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:33 No.3631063
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    Just give up, you'll never win. Even if you kill Ludwig, you'll never get past me. I invented the internet.
    >> KHORNE 02/06/09(Fri)12:35 No.3631077
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:36 No.3631083
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    A challenger appears....
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:38 No.3631102
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    Leave that composer to me. Twain, step out of the way.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:39 No.3631108
    Morzart's Requiem

    Run if he starts conducting it.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:43 No.3631128
    Fear of hair.
    Fear of round objects.
    Fear of bodily contact.
    Fear of germs.
    Obsession with number 3.
    Likes to stand around dangerous machinery.

    Build three round chaff guns, load them with hair and metal wires, fire at Tesla, close in and grapple.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:46 No.3631152
    The baton is still a fucking wand. Better be safe.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:51 No.3631191
    So Beethoven is done for. Who's next? Sigmund Freud, Henry Ford, Karl Marx? I bet your DM cannot resist and you will of course meet Adolf Hitler at one point or another.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:53 No.3631206
    Pic related.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:54 No.3631216
    >Sigmund Freud


    You are all fucked
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:57 No.3631241

    Beethoven is my favorite composer and if you go back in time and kill him I will be very sad. I just want you to know.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)12:59 No.3631254
    Fuck, your DM is awesome.

    I think its safe to assume that, since Beethovan is deaf, the orchestra will be casting immensely powerful sonic spells at certain points, which beethovan is immune to. Some way to silence or distract the orchestra should be a priority.

    Second, I can pretty much guarentee that his baton is more then it appears. Disarm him of it. Even if it is just a baton, you now have the Baton of Beethovan. How fucking awesome is that?

    Thirdly, find some way to get to beethovan and do him in without being noticed. He's deaf, and he'll obviously be distracted. Invisibility / amazing hide checks are your friends.

    What level is this at?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:01 No.3631266
    What you wrote:
    >Amadeus Mozart
    What I read:
    >Asmodeus Mozart
    What I thought:
    >> SquashMonster !!YzKAMLHEhyW 02/06/09(Fri)13:06 No.3631293
    If one harp is a level maximized/empowered Fireball, an entire orchestra is going to incinerate you.

    If the music starts building to a climax of any sort before you've killed the conductor, run like hell.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:10 No.3631314
    I am suddenly overcome by the desire to play a tiefling bard.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:11 No.3631331
    My first thought was R.O.D.
    Does your DM like anime? If so, you're fucked.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:13 No.3631342
    Expect him to enrage occasionally, likely accompanied by a silence or antimagic zone effect as Beethoven's fits of rage have been theorized to be a side-effect of the same condition that caused his deafness, likely lead poisoning.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:13 No.3631345
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    You are fucked if this guy becomes your next BBEG.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:14 No.3631350
    >If the music starts building to a climax of any sort before you've killed the conductor, run like hell.
    What, now the orchestra is on a TRAIN? This is getting more awesome by every post
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:16 No.3631368
    He's going to play the ninth. Sonic damage and will saves.

    If I were you, I'd lose on purpose.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:17 No.3631378
    Buses and orchestras also have conductors.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:18 No.3631394
    I hate you.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:20 No.3631402
    I'd imagine the battle to be like this:


    Times 100.

    Fuck your DM should do Exalted next.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:22 No.3631418
    Pray he doesn't play the Fifth, aka the Fate symphony.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:26 No.3631439
    Coat an arrowhead with lead and shoot him in the gut.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:34 No.3631473
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    Sucks to be you.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:42 No.3631530
    Try to kill him REALLY fast, if your first attempt is unsuccessful.

    >> ξ・∀・) ξ・∀・) 02/06/09(Fri)13:44 No.3631545
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    >> ξ・∀・) 02/06/09(Fri)13:46 No.3631560
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    Also music based magic is awesome.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:48 No.3631568
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:52 No.3631594
    I'd play it
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:53 No.3631603
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    I have a great idea! Cast Remove Deafness on him! That's gotta fuck him up for some reason!

    maybe he'll become vulnerable to the orchestra's attacks, or maybe he'll hear that they aren't playing perfectly, and freak out at them,
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:54 No.3631607
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:55 No.3631611
    Maybe it will increase his power considerably.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)13:55 No.3631612
    1812 overture / artillery bombardment?

    massed sonic attacks?

    Summoning swarms of poisonous bees?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:01 No.3631639
    Oh wow. That might be a really good idea. If he loses his immunity to sonic damage at the climax of a song, that might just kill him.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:01 No.3631643
    1. demand a rock-off
    2. bring the thunder
    3. ???
    4. profit!

    I'll get you, Tenacious Deeeeeeeee!
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:07 No.3631669
    I don't even know who the BBEG is. I wish he would just tell us already, he has given us clues to who it might be, but nothing useful.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:08 No.3631682
    Pray he doesn't put you up against Andrew Jackson.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:14 No.3631718
    You know what OP, you have an awesome DM.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:14 No.3631720
    Oh god, I was just thinking about that too. I was thinking it might be Andrew Jackson, King Solomon, Vlad the Impaler or Alexander the Great. But he is probably going to come up with someone I haven't even heard of.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:16 No.3631725
    I was skeptical of the campaign at first, but goddamn its been the best one I've played in so far.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:16 No.3631726
    Teddy Roosevelt will fuck your shit up.

    Remove Deafness sounds like the best plan.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:19 No.3631749
    You'll get Rasputin. Good luck killing him.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:20 No.3631751
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:20 No.3631755
    Immune to Poison, Piercing, Cold, and Fire?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:22 No.3631762
    so, Remove Deafness will either
    a) screw him up, leading to your vitory
    b) Make him considerable more powerful, leading to your spectacular and inevetable defeat

    Either option would be fine with me, really. Do it.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:23 No.3631764
    Use Bruce Willis on him. "Ode to Joy" made him awesome in Die Hard.
    >> LaBambaMan 02/06/09(Fri)14:25 No.3631771
    Wait for him to play his 9 symphonies. Survive those and you're set, as he'll die at the end of #9 anyway. Or throw a throwing knife at him from behind, he won't hear or see it coming.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:26 No.3631776
    >throw a throwing knife at him from behind, he won't hear
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:30 No.3631802
    He has his whole fucking Orchestra with him.

    Enjoy being impaled by that knife being repelled by the shear force of his music.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:32 No.3631813
    Thats hours worth of music, they couldn't survive. And I'm pretty sure he would play the 10th symphony he was working on at the time of his death, and kill everything.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:36 No.3631830
    I believe it's time for a bit of the old ultra violence, my droog.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:37 No.3631835
    For Extreme epicness, once you kill off his orchestra he goes onto his Piano doing his solos.
    >> Skribulous !hbSw2YmOa6 02/06/09(Fri)14:37 No.3631838

    Your DM is awesome and I wish to play in your campaign.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:41 No.3631853

    I've got a pair of needle nose pliers and a wire clipper. I'll handle rasputin.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:49 No.3631899
    OP Here, I'm going out, then going to roll some dice. I'll make another thread later describing the fight with Beethoven. Thanks for the ideas guys.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:50 No.3631901
    Good luck, you screwed bastard.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:52 No.3631915
    Anyone consider that Beethoven might be nice?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:54 No.3631928
    He's too bitter and grumpy from going through a shitty life to be nice.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)14:57 No.3631955

    Learn your music history, bro, Beethovan was an angry, angry man.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)15:00 No.3631972

    This is clearly a boss fight, though; this set-up SCREAMS it. Besides, Beethoven was an angry, crass motherfucker anyway.

    "You DARE interrupt MY orchestra?! I have a special little piece reserved for fools like you!"
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)15:06 No.3632025
    Oh yeah.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)15:08 No.3632036
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    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)15:09 No.3632042
    This is an accurate depiction of Beethoven's eyes at any given time.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)15:09 No.3632046
    Why? Why do I find this stupid excuse for a meme funny?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)15:12 No.3632064
    Memes are not supposed to be funny, they are supposed to be spam.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)15:21 No.3632137
    I lol'd far harder then I should have.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)15:26 No.3632169
    Being deaf, he probably had tremorsense. Cast fly.

    He's old, cast magical aging spells on him or Rays of Enfeeblement and he should drop fairly quickly.

    If high enough level, try to Gate or Miracle in:
    A Devil
    Fate Incarnate
    A spirit of good to combat the devil-blessed immortal Beethoven
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)15:36 No.3632235
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    There are worse foes to defeat.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)16:16 No.3632492
    Awesome campaign is awesome. :D
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)16:43 No.3632701
    random dmfag here. if i were in that dm's shoes here's what i would do

    1beethovan (abreviated to b from this point forward) will be conducting his 9 symphonies. his first is just music, for enjoyment. the second would be a dispel symphony (no magic can be cast during the 5 turn durration) the third, fourth and fifth would be AoE ongoing dammage spells (with varying elements) sixth would be healing, seventh would be like three, four and five, and eight would be an enfebling effect. nine would be the turning point in the battle. it would be the longest ( all others would be five turns in length, this one would be ten) and the effect would be like>>3630941 suggested. it is longer because it is the last chance to defeat him. the tenth would be a shitstorm of wtfhax attacks that would kill in 1-3 turns.

    so my suggestion would be cast silence ove the orchestra and beat the shit out of b
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)17:08 No.3632893
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    And we played the first thing that came too our heads. Just so happened to be The Best Song In The World. It was The Best Song In The World.
    Look into my eyes it's easy to see. One and one makes two, two and one makes three. It was destiny.
    Once every hundred thousand years or so, when the sun doth shine and the moon doth glow and the grass doth grow...
    >> Anonymous 02/06/09(Fri)17:53 No.3633287
    Are you angels?
     Nay! We are but men.
    >> Mediocrates !!tG3QhWVtE/n 02/06/09(Fri)17:58 No.3633316
    OP, you said your DM was a tricksy hobbit, maybe Ludwig isn't supposed to be killed, wait for the intermission (or make one) and talk to him.

    Also, 'Silence' as above.

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