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    112 KB Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:08 No.4590359  
    An Imperial survey fleet drops out of warp at the edge of an uncharted star system. Initial scans indicates the local sun to be a fairly healthy main sequence star. The outer planets are primarily gas giants suitable for vapor mining, while the inner planets appear to be rich in mineral wealth. Occupying the green band is a single verdant, habitable world.

    As the fleet gets underway, a number of sensor returns appear ahead of their course. The vox receiver hisses static for a moment, warbling along the electromagnetic spectrum until a clear signal cuts through. A voice from the void speaks.

    "Terran, you are tresspassing on protoss territory. This stellar system and its surrounding environs belongs to the children of the Xel'naga by right of inheritence. By order of the Conclave of Aiur, you are instructed to withdraw immediately or you will be fired upon. Go in peace and no harm shall come to you. Ignore this warning and you shall be destroyed. These terms are non-negotiable."

    Your orders, Captain?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:09 No.4590366
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:09 No.4590367
    The same thing we do to everything that's different, Pinky.

    Commit genocide.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:11 No.4590387
    Launch Koreaminatus! For great zergrush!
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:11 No.4590392
    These xenos filth dare challenge servants of the Emperor? Burn them all.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:12 No.4590406
    Fire the cyclonic torpedoes and retire to my stateroom for a light lunch.
    >> -|- Slaaneshiguard -|- !!bOOhb8C7gxV 05/18/09(Mon)21:13 No.4590416
    Yeah, whatever.

    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:14 No.4590419
    Retreat before the korean assault beggins.
    >> -|- Slaaneshiguard -|- !!bOOhb8C7gxV 05/18/09(Mon)21:14 No.4590420
    *commence of course, stupid heretic keyboard...
    >> Terminator 05/18/09(Mon)21:14 No.4590421
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    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:14 No.4590422
    I inform the xenos scum that the stars themselves are the domain of the God-Emperor of Mankind and his most holy Imperium and I order my helmsman to bring us about for a full broadside.
    >> Mike 05/18/09(Mon)21:15 No.4590432
    Why does this sound suspiciously like Earth?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:15 No.4590440
    Log the location in in our cogitators and drop grav-anchor at a point outside of the range of their weapons. Once we're there, sent a high priority message to Subsector Command; after all, that world is perfectly good for us. Why let the xenos keep it?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:16 No.4590441
    Politely stifle my laughter and order all ships to launch attack craft and prepare for a good old-fashioned Imperial genocide.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:19 No.4590472
    >Why does this sound suspiciously like Earth?
    What do you think people will look like tousand years from now on with all the technological and ethical development?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:19 No.4590480
    Do survey fleets include exterminators? I'm pretty sure they don't.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:19 No.4590484
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    All signs point to 'Destroy the Xeno Scum', sir.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:20 No.4590486
    The same as we look now, but we'll all be wearing spandex jumpsuits.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:20 No.4590487
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    I'm afraid I can't allow you to do that, chaps...
    >> Mike 05/18/09(Mon)21:20 No.4590493
    Smoking corpses on a blackened hunk of rock, why?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:20 No.4590494
    correct me if i'm wrong, but retribution class ships measure several miles. You're threatening US? When your ships can be killed by space bats?


    come and get it, space hindus
    las-cannons, target their outposts and render them ash. Also, recommend me for another medal "for swift genocide"
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:20 No.4590497

    Every ship that's big enough carries at least one method of Exterminatus.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:21 No.4590501
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    >> Terminator 05/18/09(Mon)21:21 No.4590502
    Depends on what the survey fleet is made of.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:21 No.4590504
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    Interfere. I fucking dare you.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:21 No.4590505
    Of course do survey fleets carry exterminatus... you should feel bad for even thinking otherwise.

    It's the 40th millenium, and there is only EXTERMINATUS!
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:22 No.4590508
    Exterminators? There's no special gear involved. It's fucking torpedoes.
    >> I CLUB SEALS 05/18/09(Mon)21:22 No.4590509

    Bio weapon space bats.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:22 No.4590516
    is that guy holding a bolter/halbard polearm o.O
    >> -|- Slaaneshiguard -|- !!bOOhb8C7gxV 05/18/09(Mon)21:23 No.4590518
    I think it consists of ships build around guns with guns on them.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:23 No.4590522
    "i shoot at it" becomes exterminatus if the one shooting packs exowatt lascannons
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:23 No.4590525
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    In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future, the rise of genetic engineering and extremist Animal Rights groups has deprived the human race of MOUTHS.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:23 No.4590526
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    Hey, I haven't seen one of those in ages!

    If you tilt his head back, does a candy pop out?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:23 No.4590529
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    >correct me if i'm wrong, but retribution class ships measure several miles. You're threatening US? When your ships can be killed by space bats?
    Because StarCraft is to scale, amirite?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:24 No.4590537
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    Adeptus Custodes: we'll fucking stab you AND shoot you in the dick at the same time.
    >> Terminator 05/18/09(Mon)21:24 No.4590539
    Then it should carry at least one exterminator warhead.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:25 No.4590547
    In the grim darkness of the far future, Protoss are the new army for 40k.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:25 No.4590549
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    No. No, I'm not. Really!
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:25 No.4590552
    The Emperor's plot armour is better than yours. He can never die, because his plot will never advance. Run, you fool!
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:26 No.4590557
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    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:27 No.4590563
    Not to mention that the Protoss in SC1 did perform Exterminatus too, but there was no in-game spess ship that had anything resembling a giant energy beam.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:27 No.4590565
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:28 No.4590578
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    Protoss have craftworlds now.
    >> Terminator 05/18/09(Mon)21:29 No.4590590
    Cyclonic torpedoes to be correct.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:29 No.4590591
    That's no spaceship, that's a christmas tree bauble.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:29 No.4590592
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    "Only one human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else."

    The imperium stands no chance.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:29 No.4590594
    No they don't. Don't you know how Blizzard works? All the Protoss live in the Nexus, because that's the only building with sufficient space they can build.

    Also, Protoss buildings are teleported from fuck who knows where?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:30 No.4590597
    what's he doing back there?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:30 No.4590600
    On the Exterminatus note: can't the Protoss reduce a planet to a burning molten fireball as they did near the start of the game?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:30 No.4590602
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    Also, I went back in time and changed the blueprints of your suit's power systems to shut down whenever someone says the word "Uvula".
    >> Vector !NEy29ODpvs 05/18/09(Mon)21:30 No.4590603
    Do protoss count as psykers?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:31 No.4590608
    I spend 3 minutes on MSPaint to produce a more convincing image of a spaceship.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:31 No.4590616
    No they can't because they don't do it in the game.
    >> Vector !NEy29ODpvs 05/18/09(Mon)21:31 No.4590618
    Almost everybody can do that in the grimdark future.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:32 No.4590627
    Wow, that carrier is fucking tiny. It might even stand up to a small 40k merchant vessel. Maybe.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:32 No.4590628
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    where was I, Yes.. The War. The humans, I think, knew they were doomed. Where another race would surrender to despair, the humans fought back with greater strength. They made the Minbari fight for every inch of space. In my life, I have never seen anything like it; They would weep, they would pray, they would say goodbye to their loved ones, and then throw themselves without fear or hesitation at the very face of death itself, never surrendering. No one who saw them fighting against the inevitable could help but be moved to tears by their courage. Their stubborn nobility. When they ran out of ships, they used guns, when they ran out guns they used knives and sticks and bare hands. They were magnificent. I only hope that when it is my time, I may die with half as much dignity as I saw in their eyes in the end. They did this for two years; they never ran out of courage. But in the end, they ran out of time.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:33 No.4590635

    Well, that at least puts them somewhat on par with other races.
    >> I CLUB SEALS 05/18/09(Mon)21:33 No.4590644

    The game limits your power.

    THe fluff for terrans involves them nuking a world ash.

    Also, you can't exterminious in 40k.

    spelling cancel. dinnar is ready.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:33 No.4590645
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    WE ALSO WENT BACK IN TIME ANd changed the tardis to- *voice box runs out of power*
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:34 No.4590651
    I divert the some hive fleet to the system and let it soften these protoss up.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:34 No.4590654
    Dude that is the size of an Imperial Dropship.

    Imperial Dropships carry like 1/100th part of an IG force.
    >> -|- Slaaneshiguard -|- !!bOOhb8C7gxV 05/18/09(Mon)21:35 No.4590662
    sauce on that plox
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:35 No.4590664
    You can exterminatus in 40k. A little bit. The Inquisition and the Space Marines can.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:35 No.4590665
    It looks to be about five miles long, judging by the settlement underneath it. That's not insignificant.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:36 No.4590672
    Any Imperial unit not see in Dawn of War 2 doesn't exist
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:37 No.4590684
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    >> -|- Slaaneshiguard -|- !!bOOhb8C7gxV 05/18/09(Mon)21:37 No.4590689
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    Size doesn't matter.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:38 No.4590697
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    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:39 No.4590705
    Goddamn it, not more salvettes.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:42 No.4590740
    >judging by the settlement

    i didn't realise you were an expert on protoss architecture. For all you know that whole settlement could fit on a football field and that ship is dwarfed even by uss Enterprise
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:43 No.4590756
    babylon 5 movie "In the beginning"

    Londo tells the story about the earth war with the minbari and how the human race fought.

    his speech proceeds this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbBRrK9Q-rw
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:46 No.4590777
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:48 No.4590801
    Holy disparity in resource allocation, Batman!
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:49 No.4590812
    These things are not the same
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:49 No.4590813
    Protoss armies field Zealot squads which are incredibly tough, almost like melee necron warriors.

    Dragoons are powerful and fast, but limited weapon options

    Archons are super units

    Protoss Shields act as their saves, without them they're weak
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:50 No.4590819
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    Hey, how powerful a psyker would the fully manifested first Overmind be?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:53 No.4590842
    Well Timmy, you can make certain assumptions about the scale of a given structure based on the fact that the occupants are, on average, approximately ten feet tall.
    >> -|- Slaaneshiguard -|- !!bOOhb8C7gxV 05/18/09(Mon)21:53 No.4590844
    That's awesome.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:53 No.4590848
    the 40k ships are huge and inefficient. bigger doesn't mean better. considering they are larger targets with the same relative firepower.

    I look at in the way EVA units are gauged in size. the same ship is as big or as small as it needs to be for the context of the shot's visual effect.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:54 No.4590858
    >the 40k ships are huge and inefficient.

    >I am a huge faggot because I care about mudane matters in 40k

    Faggot, if your ship isn't big enough, you can't stab your enemy with swords... DUH!
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:57 No.4590883
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    <- Protoss Nexus
    >> -|- Slaaneshiguard -|- !!bOOhb8C7gxV 05/18/09(Mon)21:58 No.4590889
    I wonder why Imperium didn't devise a giant ship that's sole purpose is to stab enemy ships with swords.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)21:58 No.4590894
    That is precisely what I was getting at, actually. While far larger and terrifying, 40k ships could generally we defeated by a relatively small taskforce that was manueverable and undaunted.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:00 No.4590927
    Based entirely on nothing.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:10 No.4591007
    past season 1 the show is awesome. the story has a truly epic scale and a is heart wrenching at times. "in the beginning" is a good introduction to it and whenever i run any kind of space setting RPG i try to take some of the same tone from b5.

    there is a "call to arms" miniatures game too that is a sight better than BFG
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:10 No.4591014
    Space Marine boarding Squads can take on such big ships. It does happen. While Space Marine Ships usually aren't as big as the imperial Navy classes can get they have a very efficient crew and means to get them to the other ship.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:11 No.4591020
    So say a fleet of capital ships arrive, launch fighters, bombers, and whatnot, and progressively gnaw away at the weapons and such, that they stand no chance because they are not FUCKHUGE HELL YEAH. I doubt that.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:13 No.4591038
    I disagree with that. In fluff, 40k ships have ridiculous numbers of guns (with each point of attack representing a full battery), and since we have no basis for comparison, we can't assume that 40k ships have relatively less firepower in comparison to other, smaller ships.

    Especially since 40k ships can shoot at each other from hundreds of kilometers away, and the main Protoss fighter has to be within twice the range of a marine's rifle in order to hit the marine.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:17 No.4591073
    Not necessarily to disagree with you, but there is no base of comparison between the games. If we were to go off fluff for both series, we'd be at this forever.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:19 No.4591091

    "This is damn peculiar..."

    "Yellow alert!"
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:27 No.4591166
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:32 No.4591203
    I think that's the point of this thread, bro.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:41 No.4591291
    This thread is bad and you should all feel bad.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:41 No.4591292
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    Let them eat static!
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:43 No.4591304
    eldar ripoff FUCK YEAH
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:53 No.4591415
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    Yeah, they stand about as much chance as some speedboats and jetskis attacking an american supercarrier.

    Good luck with that.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:59 No.4591496
    Wasn't there an American ship (not a supercarrier, of course) that got bombed by a small boat?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)22:59 No.4591503
    Somalian pirates would like a word with you. and so would the USS cole.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)23:01 No.4591517
    Just use reason.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)23:08 No.4591594

    Yeah. Pirates and terrorists can do pretty good damage against us when we're under strict orders not to fire at them.

    Shit gets laughable when you actually consider how things would be if we were on a 'exterminate your race' blattle plan.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)23:09 No.4591611
    Is this where I should bring up Hellsing and the SR-71, or would too few people outside /a/ get that?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)23:13 No.4591662
    Dude we're talking about pansee fucking Blizzard Protoss vs. Imperial Navy.

    Not Marysue Ultarmarine SPESS MURHEENS capturing an entire fleet with one battlebarge and two spacce morheens.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)23:16 No.4591704
    Pictures are needed, as it is awesome.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)23:17 No.4591715
    The Emperor was a xel'naga
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)23:18 No.4591721
    Fuck the SR-71 crash.

    Post the Rip von Winkle double penetration by Dracula penis and sniper rifle.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)23:19 No.4591733
    Xel'Naga... good news for the Naga fetishists in WoW.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)23:26 No.4591818

    SUP BROSEF. /k/ sent me.

    In b4 millennium challenge.


    >> I CLUB SEALS 05/18/09(Mon)23:27 No.4591824

    Damnit Xel'Naga!
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)00:54 No.4592589
    I can't find the video of Londo's speech on youtube anywhere :(
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)04:54 No.4594289
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    >Damnit Xel'Naga
    <- pic related
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)04:56 No.4594300
    Suddenly, my interest in this thread has been renewed.

    Inform the boarding parties, take their females alive.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)04:59 No.4594324
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    Kif, lay out my formal shorts.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:25 No.4594462
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    "40k Starships are so awesome, they're so huge and spectacular, they're unstoppable against YOUR science-fiction. Imperium FTW fufufufufuf!"

    I like 40k, but this shit gets annoying. WH40k ships aren't the be-all end-all, guys.
    Neither are EVE ships, but posting for comparison.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:28 No.4594473
    I find myself aroused yet confused. Nipples?

    Either they have the ability to feed their young and eventually the mouth closes as they mature or at one time they did have mouths and the nipples are just left overs from evolution.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:30 No.4594486
    I read that in Zapp Branigan's voice.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:31 No.4594494
    >WH40k ships aren't the be-all end-all, guys
    It is if that's all they play or read.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:32 No.4594496
    That would hardly be efficient.

    If they were stabbing their ship into an enemy ship, how could they shoot torpedoes filled with men so that they can puncture the ship and get into assault with swords?
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:34 No.4594507
    Lookin pretty Homeworld there, Nagifar.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:34 No.4594508
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    Yeah, but then why would they try to participate in a debate built around comparing the diversities between different sci-fi technologies and ships?
    I mean, seriously, what kind of idiot wou-...


    ... Nevermind.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:36 No.4594516
    The ragnarok is 18 kilometers long.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:38 No.4594528

    Yes, yes it is, but that doesn't make it some unstoppable behemoth, either. Titans are supposed to be huge and powerful, but if their performance in the EVE universe should be nothing but a testament to the idea that "Big doesn't mean invincible".
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:39 No.4594534
    Orks do it. Tyranids do it.

    Yeah Imperial ships would be fucked if they're outnumbered and they try stabbing another ship. Once you're stuck in another ship you're a giant target for everything else. Tyranids would crack open the ship and eat the insides anway
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:39 No.4594535
    Aren't the black ships made for ramming other ships?
    >> tankred 05/19/09(Tue)05:40 No.4594544
    i see your titans and raise you an exeelee night-fighter.

    where is your god now
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:41 No.4594545
    like a crab leg?
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:42 No.4594552
    I had an idea for a ship, well, several small ships in fact. They'd be very small and fast and have huge powerblades mounted on the front and their whole purpose would be to punch straight through the enemy ships. They'd need some kind of carrier ship though, but with the sizes of these other ships being 1-5km long, I think they could find some room.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:44 No.4594566
    They call them Brute Ramships.

    Orks thought of it before you.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:45 No.4594571
    Superior Protoss technology would end the space battle very quickly.

    Their naivete concerning the virus bombs that the ship launches at each planet just before it cracks apart would have bad results, though.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:45 No.4594573
    Damn those orks and their guile.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:48 No.4594589
    >>Superior Protoss technology would end the space battle very quickly.

    >>Superior Protoss technology

    >>Just a 30,000 year difference.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:50 No.4594609
    Forcefields that cover their entire ship, FTL travel that is far more reliable and quicker than Warp travel, FTL comms that does not rely on inferior human psionics, powerful energy weapons, etc.

    The terrans would still win due to being so fucking batshit insane as a species (not to mention numerous) but the Protoss clearly have better tech.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:51 No.4594614
    Kiith Somtaaw did it better. They put lasers on their rams.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:53 No.4594623
    they have trouble taking out what amounts to a large angry dog with space chitin on it
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:53 No.4594625
    >cannon vessels to scale
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:54 No.4594634
    Not one.

    Millions. For each Zealot that they have at their disposal. And for every one they kill, countless more can be made in just minutes. Remember, the Zerg are pretty much the Tyranids, just less alien.
    >> tankred 05/19/09(Tue)05:54 No.4594636
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    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:55 No.4594645
    Because no ships in Warhammer 40k have shields, right?

    Except, well, all of them.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:57 No.4594660
    >I don't know too much about fluff in 40k and how all advanced technology was lost
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)05:58 No.4594668
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:00 No.4594681
    For instance?
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:00 No.4594682
    >>I don't know too much about 40k fluff and how most battleships are a few thousand years old and use acceptably high technology beyond thematic setting shit like manual-loading certain weapons, not to even mention Mechanicus space-fairing vessels. I know everything about 40k from /tg/.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:00 No.4594687
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    New idea:
    Long forgotten by human history, an ancient Terran civilization is once again reunited with their ancient relatives, only to discover them a twisted and corrupt race, now defined only by war and religious zealotry!

    The EVE Gate re-opens, and fleets of ships pour through to the Milky Way from New Eden, thousands upon thousands of eager explorers waiting to rediscover their rightful homelands are cast into a war that is not their own!

    Do the Amarr side with the Imperium? Will the Caldari see their philosophical similarities with the Tau? Can the five EVE Empires prevent the Tyranids, Necrons, and Orks from reaching New Eden, and beginning new marauding campaigns against their space?

    Warhammer 40k clashes with EVE.
    Epic ensues.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:01 No.4594693
    tyrnads minus the biological diamond carapace that is, which is what a lot of the bigs nid are described as having in spades
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:02 No.4594701
    Play BFG and find me a single Imperial vessel that does not have at least a 1 in the SHIELD section.

    I'll wait. The information is free from GW's website.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:02 No.4594704
    Goonfleet trolls everyone, the gate is forcibly closed at the expense of a million astropaths.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:04 No.4594712

    Yes, SA does ruin everything, doesn't it?
    >> Mârquis dé baguette 05/19/09(Tue)06:05 No.4594716
    My big problem with Starcraft is the UED

    Someone explain to me how the United Earth Directorate arrive in the Koprulu sector bearing exactly the same technology and design philosophy as the native Terran cultures.

    How does UED divergent evolution??
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:06 No.4594725
    Blizzard was being cheap and lazy as fuck, as usual
    >> Calgar !!E6uXE2v0isQ 05/19/09(Tue)06:08 No.4594739
    Eclipse class star destroyer was here..enjoy your fail
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:08 No.4594741
    giant oversized weapons aside, every single piece of human technology is pretty lame when compared to any other science fiction setting. I remember a thread when somebody got the specifications of a Leman Russ battle tank and compared it to modern day main battle tank. The Russ lost on every single aspect. The armor was weaker, the main cannon was weaker, its speed was slower. Its only advantage was its magic engine that could burn anything to make it run.

    Get rid of the fanboys and 40k has absolutely nothing
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:10 No.4594756
    That's because 40K is not meant to be taken fucking seriously. Look at it. It's a fucking over-the-top GRIMDARKDARKGRIM black comedy crack-snorting parody of scifi.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:11 No.4594763
    Earth was united under a single government with almost no wars. The military tech wasn't advancing any. The poor Terran Colonists were in a state of constant warfare so they developed military tech at an advanced rate. The UED kept them under observation and made their own versions of Terran technology while making a few things of their own
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:13 No.4594778

    The Leman Russ' main cannon is a 120mm - the same size as German, American, English, and others besides main battle tanks. It's only problem is the imperiums staunch need for it to fire HE and only HE all the time. Vanquisher's fire some kind of solid penetrator like modern MBTs, so I can't see the gun being less powerful. Their profile is absurdly tall however.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:14 No.4594790
    >>4594778 here,

    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:15 No.4594791
    And the range sucks balls.
    >> Mârquis dé baguette 05/19/09(Tue)06:16 No.4594796

    So much for my hope of level-headed saviors coming to save the day.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:19 No.4594817
    there is no such thing as level headed when it comes to anything with Blizzard
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:20 No.4594819
    this thread was already infested with nerdraging fanboys. Your previous statements only fuel the fire
    >> Mârquis dé baguette 05/19/09(Tue)06:21 No.4594825
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    Oh I wouldn't say that..
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:21 No.4594826
    Look up their actual quoted speeds and armor thickness equivalents.
    We had tanks in WW2 that could put them to shame those aspects alone.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:22 No.4594829
    so then why do you fags take it so seriously? hurr 40k is the best setting ever and could beat every other setting combined durr
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:26 No.4594854
    god, i love that game. The best platform shooter ever.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:26 No.4594856

    Were they in the imperial armour books or in white dwarf? (Would like to know because that sort of thing interests me)

    I still love the idea the baneblade is a 300+ ton gothic maus.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)06:47 No.4594940
    Damage their ships,vehicles and structures, watch them for fun as they can't repair them
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)10:52 No.4596315
    while I think the imperium takes it because "fuck yeah humanity", protoss carriers and terran battle cruisers are alot bigger than they appear in the games. the brood war video with the battle cruiser is huge.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)13:46 No.4597368
    Once again, StarCraft is not to scale. Units have gameplay limitations placed upon them in the context of the game that simply do not exist in their fluff.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)14:23 No.4597646
    Depends on how many Arbiters the protoss have with them. Those fuckers can teleport in reinforcements, cloak the majority of the fleet, and basicaly take a majority of the enemy ships out of combat for a period of time.

    Corsairs can also use disruption webs to fuck with the Gun batteries on Imperial Ships, and fucking Emperor help you if there are Dark Archons on board the carriers. Mind controlled Astropaths and Officers dropping false orders on the crew would suck.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)14:27 No.4597677
    Heck, science ships are much larger than they appear in the tactical combat part. There was a mission that took place on board one, it had a huge map that held several hundred marines and various labs.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)14:47 No.4597836
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)15:46 No.4598222
    lol ever seen Necrontyr tech?
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:13 No.4598408
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    Your vessel has entered fluid space. Turn back now and we shall spare your wretched lives.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:17 No.4598433
    Protoss vs Da Orkz

    Let's see what your high level technology does against a green tide.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:20 No.4598451
    Got to love bio-weapons the size of a shuttle that can terminate Borg Cubes.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:21 No.4598457
    Protoss are basically a race of psykers and the most powerful psyker in the universe almost got killed by an Ork.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:21 No.4598461
    >Terminate Borg Cubes in a single shot.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:23 No.4598473
    Nurgle would love these guys, since if they scratch you they infect you with bio-organisms that reproduce and devour your cellular structure.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:24 No.4598476
    >Most powerful psyker almost killed by an Orc.
    >Black Library book.
    >Must be Canon.

    Fuck off new fag.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:24 No.4598483
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    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:25 No.4598491
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:25 No.4598492
    I really hate how GW fanboys always justify their pet faction winning all theoretical encounters with the same two points: "Ours are bigger" and "We have more."

    This is especially retarded when comparing to something like Starcraft, which is in a setting of a much smaller scale.

    It's like saying one F-22 is no match for four million F-15s. Fucking duh. Quit being a retard.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:25 No.4598494
    Sounding pretty Imperium there, xeno.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:27 No.4598516
    >species from a liquid-filled universe
    er, No
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    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:30 No.4598529
    1. Chaos always wins. Chaos will always win forever at everything because it can just go "lolours" and win automatically. Chaos is the ultimate godhax powergamer fucktard.
    2. Nobody gives a shit. Taking 40K seriously is like taking Fox News seriously. Except more funny.
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    Nothing exists, all is a dream,
    in a moment you will have realized this.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:34 No.4598552

    Oh man, fuck those guys. I think even touching them can kill you because of their hax immune system.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:36 No.4598561

    No, 40k ships like to get within visual range of each other ( visual as in by human eye ) and broadside one another like they're Lord Horatio fucking Nelson. Numerous comics, shorts, a few books and all the BFG material confirms this level of stupidity.

    If that's not any worse Orks try to physically ram ships. In space. The concept of even getting that close is just absurd when you throw in the sheer vastness, the Z-axis and how projectiles would work in spaces ( i.e. it's missile\railgun territory ) and the ranges involved..

    No, 'real' space combat you wouldn't even see your aggressor. Much like it is today. Only at even more ridiculous ranges.

    And for those mentioning fighters and bombers in space... lol no. The era of space combat is apt to kill that concept like the crossbow did the knight.
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    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:39 No.4598577
    Fuck yes Lucifer, you are obviously Samuel Clemmens' best work!
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:39 No.4598578
    Don't forget... One ship one shots a Borg cube, 8 ships linked exterminates a planet.... And they're the size of shuttles.

    I'm not sure who came up with them, but it must've been a real wank fest. Granted the Borg where eventually given technology to fight back against them, even so they put the Collective into shambles.
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    >Lord Horatio
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:41 No.4598591
    No they don't...

    BFG states the scale battles are in and it's huge. Ramming a ship has a minute chance of happening.

    Anyway, Long range firepower won't be missiles and torpedoes though, they're even more obsolete than fighters. Lasers all the way.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:44 No.4598611
    Missiles are more effective than you think.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:44 No.4598615
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:52 No.4598668
    Doesn´t matter much when even the shittiest frigate can enter orbit and enact a policy of "If it moves, nuke it. If it doesn´t, nuke it anyway."
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:52 No.4598670

    And cheaper. Railguns, too, if by then we've developed more reliable ways to not burn out the magentic rods.

    The future of space combat ( if any, I doubt it for a couple of centuries.. ) will be decided by missile and railgun spam and crazy electronic warfare.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)16:58 No.4598710
    >Forcefields that cover their entire ship, FTL travel that is far more reliable and quicker than Warp travel, FTL comms that does not rely on inferior human psionics, powerful energy weapons, etc.

    So Eldar, basically.
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)17:01 No.4598733
    finally, proof that a low cosmic setting can be fun too
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)17:04 No.4598767
    >Its only advantage was its magic engine that could burn anything to make it run.

    M1 Abrams' gas turbine will run off pretty much anything that can burn.

    Military diesels are far from picky too.
    >> tankred 05/19/09(Tue)17:05 No.4598773
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    >>4598611 why settle for one when you can have both
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)17:17 No.4598877
    Save for the canon occurances where Russes get hit in the side armor and get out unscratched by shells with enough KE to tear through a modern MBT from front to end and still pack enough ounch to kill another tank.
    Or the part where the gun is a good deal fucking bigger than 120mm by the sheer visuals. That thing's closer to a 8-inch cruiser gun.

    40k has nothing but the fanboys? Well, the fanboys AND THE FUCKING CANON EXAMPLES.

    Try Imperial Armour 1. Imp tanks have a rather wide variety of shells for their guns. You just have only the HE in normal games for rule streamlining.

    LOLWUT? 72 inches range in the TT roughly translate into "If you can see it, you can hit it". Fucking snipers have 36 inches and are stated in the fluff to score headshots at up to 4 klicks.

    Here´s a problem: The only stats given for the armor facings are in "conventional steel" and it´s an in-universe document. "Conventional steel" 38k years into the future and "conventional steel" today arne´t the same thing.

    Except for the part where all written fluff disagrees and has 40k ships broadsiding each other from hundreds of thousands of kilometers distance. Getting close is only somewhat viable in 40k space battles because msot 40k vessels can take absurb amounts of firepower to the bare hull before even caring. Absurb is in "makes the dinokiller asteroid look like a firecracker".
    >> Anonymous 05/19/09(Tue)18:07 No.4599292
    I find this discussion to be intriguing. As a member of Special Circumstances, that is.
    >> ‮‮‮‮‬‬‬‬ 05/19/09(Tue)19:00 No.4599805
    Culturefag detected.


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