Slaaneshi Hedonism Posts by Anonymous Devian/tg/uy

Post #1
Anonymous 05/14/09(Thu)12:34 No.4554630
Okay, you need to realize a couple of things, first.
Facts:
1. Hedonism is expensive.
2. Hedonism is socially unacceptable by modern society.
3. Hedonism will often lead to illegal acts.

Lets go into a bit more detail, now. Fact 1 means you will need money to live a life glorifying Slaanesh. Fact 2 will mean it will often be hard to find a well paying job, while enjoying your hedonistic lifestyle.
But that's okay! I mean, really, who wants to grind away at a 9 to 5 job for years, anyway? Jobs are not very much fun, and thus, not worth the time in your new life.
Instead, seek refuge in Fact 3. Most of the really fun drugs are illegal. So, obiviously you are going to be breaking the law anyway. Just forget about the rest of the laws, and run with it.
So, illegally, there are whole new, enjoyable, ways of making money. For starters, you can sell drugs. Pot is easy to grow, and a great way to get into the business. Stay away from Meth production. It's far more risky. You are more likely to get caught, more likely to get blown up, and more likely to die from poisonous vapors.
Of course, drug trade isn't your only potential source of income.
There is of course the skin trade. Prostitution is is the oldest profession for a good reason, it's profitable. And for a follower of Slaanesh, it should be fun and interesting, too! But if you want to rake in the real dough on the skin trade, you should pimp.

Post #2
Anonymous 05/14/09(Thu)12:35 No.4554637
There are two ways to get control over people to the degree you can whore them out, and take all the profits. The quick and easier, if more dangerous and less profitable is the drug addiction method. Be a supplier of a highly addictive drug, get some desperate people well and truly hooked, and whore them out for mass profits, while keeping an iron grip on their drug rations.
Then there is the more profitable method, and the method that in general provides more satisfaction. Slaves. Get a couple of extra slaves and whore them out. Best to use non english speakers here. And do make sure you have completely broken their spirit. If they shank a john and end up picked up by the cops, you're screwed. I'll go more into slave acquisition and training when I reach the chapter on sexual hedonism.
There are other methods of fund raising. A quick one is to pretend to be a prostitute online over a site like Craig's List, and when someone agrees to meet you, mug them for the cash and run. You set a couple of encounters like that up, and you can make a mint in a single night's work. You may ask while go through the bother of pretending to be a whore, opposed to just going out and mugging people. The advantage is that these days, most people use debit cards instead of cash. This way you guaranty a decent amount of cash on you're victim's person.

Post #3
Anonymous 05/14/09(Thu)12:57 No.4554809
There are of course other ways to earn the money for your life of pure excess. Those are just some ideas to get your started.

Now, lets talk hedonism in regards to your clothing. There are two things to keep in mind when it comes to your new Slaaneshi wardrobe: Does it look good? And does it feel good?
And those are your only two criteria. Ignore gender roles, ignore fashion styles of the season, ignore price or brands.
I'm just going to through out some suggestions here, because youre taste are different then mine, and what looks good and feels good to me, might not to you. And vice versa.
But to give you some idea, lets talk underwear. More then likely you wear some. I've met few guys the go commando and less women. If you are, however, a commando type, fine, just apply these guidlines to the rest of your clothing.
Step one, try multiple different types of your given garment. In the case of underwear, try out boxers, briefs, panties, thongs, boyshorts, bikini briefs, and any other kind you find. Find what looks good to you and what feels good to you.
Step two, material. Try your garment of as many different materials as possible. For undergarments this can be cotton, polyester, silk, leather, latex, vinyl, plus any I've missed.
Once you have a favorite, move outwards. Things get more complex after this in the different styles of clothing out there, but find what you like. Don't be afraid of trying something that society says is obscene or perverse, but if you aren't comfortable in something, don't wear it.
Remember this though, for many rituals of Slaanesh, one must expose or keep exposed the right side of their chest. You may need to modify your clothing to match this. Cutting swathes out shirts or dresses and removing the right cup from your bras.

Post #4
Anonymous 05/14/09(Thu)13:06 No.4554885
Now a quick word on food.
Try everything. Every weird food out there, give it a try. Make lists of restaurants with unusual dishes. Try them out. But do go the route of most expensive fanciest food everytime. Try it, find out it you like it. If you like it eat more of it, if you don't never touch it again. But either way keep trying new things.
Don't restrict yourself to diets for anyreason. If you're hungry eat. If you crave a certain food, eat it. Food is you're way of pleasuring your sense of taste. Indulge in it.

Cool story bro

Post #5
Anonymous 05/14/09(Thu)13:23 No.4554999
>>4554918
Thank you.

Now for the one of the Big Three of Slaanesh.
Drugs!
Do some. Do lots. Go crazy with trying new ones. But a couple of quick tips.
Use different dealers. Don't stick to a dealer more then a few time in a row. This will help because every new dealer you go to will give your the cream of the crop for the first couple of hits, but after that they start to give you crap, and figure you are too addicted to complain.
This will also help if a dealer gets busted or killed, you still have options are aren't left short on supplies when you have a major revel coming up.
Another very important issue is to know drugs individually, before you start combining them. This will really give you an appreciation for the wonderful variations one get when you start to mix.
And always be careful about the newest thing on the streets. If a new drug comes out, get someone else to take it first. Preferably someone mostly expendable. You should always know what a drug is supposed to do to you, before you take it. Trust me on this. Bad trips result from unknown drugs. Of course a bad trip is an experience one should have in your life anyway, so perhaps this isn't the worse thing.

Post #6
Anonymous 05/14/09(Thu)13:29 No.4555030
Second of the big three.
Rock!
You have music you like. Everyone has music they like. Well, take that shit you like, and turn it up to fucking Eleven!
I'm serious. Play more music, and play it louder. You have that special song that you absolutely love and can't help but sing along to at the top of your lungs. Well, play the fucking song and play it fucking loud. Find other songs you long, songs that rips the emotions from your heart and blare them across the world. Find them! Play them! And rock the fuck out!

Post #7
Anonymous 05/14/09(Thu)13:43 No.4555110
These articles are getting shorter. Mostly because I'm tired and should have fucking slept 8 hours ago.

Okay! Best for last!
Sex!

Go have some! Right now, if you can manage it. I don't care if you think yourself straight, or gay, or bi. Go fuck something right now! No, not your hand. Something a bit more intersting then that. You should fuck something every day, atleast. I don't care if you fuck your spouse, or boyfriend or girlfreind. I don't care if it's male or female. I don't care if you fuck your sibling or parent. I don't care if you fuck your neighbor or damned dog. I don't care, and neither should you. You should just fuck it. Once you've establish regular sex, start to mix it up.
Listen, there are more fetishes out their then I can list and almost as many sexual positions. I highly recommend you fuck multiple genders and age categories. Go to swingers parties. If you are a single male and can't find a female to go with you, don't worry. There is a trick to getting in to those oh so exclusive sex parties that's worked since the dawn of the swinging scene. Prostitutes. Pay a hooker to accompany you. Most people will be able to tell, but they won't say anything. A prostitute used in such a matter is known as a Golden Ticket.
Now you've started to have regular sex and with multiple different people, it's start to really get down to business. Go to a BDSM munch. Get to know the people, join the club. Go to the conventions and the shows. Start doing weird sexual acts that you've never heard of before. Say yes to every offer. Volunteer for any scene. Be a kinky slut, and love it.
You won't get bored of sex. But you might get frustrated with lack of willing victims... I mean partners. But there is a way around that.

>>4591530

PROTIP: SUBMISSIVE VORE COMES LAST, NOT FIRST.

Aspiring Slaaneshi drug users: www.erowid.org

Learn your shit before you start snorting the white bitch for chaos.
That is all.

Post #8
Anonymous 05/14/09(Thu)14:05 No.4555234
Fuck it. I was writing a whole bit on catching, keeping, and training sex slaves, but I'm fucking tired. If this thread is still alive when I get up, then I might post more. I'ts 2 in the afternoon here and I'm fucking tired.I've been up for 30+ hours, and it's time for some sleep.
Oh! Sleep for the hedonist! Sleep in! When ever you want. Fuck a regular schedule of sleeping 8 hours for every 16 awake. Stay wake as long as you want, and sleep when tired for all long as you want. I woke yesterday morning, am just getting tired, and probably won't wake up to till the tomorrow.
Anyway, good night my fellow Slaaneshi hedonists.

Post #9
Anonymous 05/14/09(Thu)14:15 No.4555330
>>4555129
You know, your encouragement has convinced me to go on a bit more.

Just some quick notes on slavery for fun and profit.
Get them young and break them quickly.
Wear a hood or mask during both training and use. It dehumanizes in their eyes, and helps if they ever get questioned by authorities.
Decided if your home has room for a slave. You need a room with only one door and no windows. Inside this room, you need a cage for your slave. Rarely take your slave out of this room.
When you do take it out, blindfold it. If you're slave is to be a party favor for a revel, blindfold, hogtie, and gag it. Use a ring gag if you still need to use the mouth. Don't use real names in front of a slave.

I could go on, but this is supposed to be how to be a disciple of Slaanesh, not a professional slaver.

I feel heretical just reading this thread.

>>4591548

I chuckled a bit.

Sup, here's some related copypasta from /d/ on the subject of slavery

Step One: Induce learned helplessness

Your goal is to essentially teach the person that they have no control and get them to accept it. This will take some time to accomplish.

Begin by stripping and shaving the victim. The shaving may seem a bit odd, but it reinforces your control over them and reduces their perceived individuality. There's a reason the military shaves recruits when they go to boot camp, after all. Once "prepped" tie them up to restrict movement as much as possible and gag them to inhibit speech, then put them in a small isolated room. This room should contain as little decoration as possible, with the exception of a mirror placed directly in front of the subject so that they may gaze upon their own helplessness.

Now, even with the restrictions to movement and speech, the individual may attempt to communicate in some fashion or another - most likely when their gag is removed during feeding. It is important that their actions go unacknowledged.

Given these circumstances, the individual will be highly distressed, and, during feeding, may refuse to eat. Should this occur, simply regag them and leave the room as though nothing had happened. The next time you go in to feed the subject, instead bring in a feeding tube and use some good old fashioned gavage. A few days later you may attempt to resume the normal feeding routine.

During their confinement, you should also come in to either flog or bring the subject to orgasm. This, as with the other actions, reinforces the notion that their life is now entirely dependent upon your whims.

This phase should take between one and three weeks, but do not be afraid to take longer if they are being especially stubborn.

>>4592027

A note to the above, you should take some care to inspect them (preferably when the subject is unconscious) to ensure the limbs are receiving proper circulation and to prevent sores from developing.

Step Two: Begin re-socialization

Now that you've essentially broken down everything that made them who they were, you now come to the task of rebuilding the subject.

You can begin by unbinding the subject and carrying (carried, because they'll be incapable of walking after remaining bound and stationary for such a prolonged period of time) them to a room in which they shall be bathed and otherwise groomed.

Along the way, speak to the individual. Refer to them as your pet/slave. While before, they would have hated to be talked to in such a manner, they will now be grateful for ANY attention.

Once cleaned up, take the pet to their new room. This one should be noticeably different from the first cell, while remaining relatively spartan in appearance.

The bathing, the speech, and new room all help to show the pet that this is a new phase of their development. It will also discourage bad behavior as doing so would risk being sent back to phase one.

>>4592034

Phase three: Further re-socialization and task training

Once you've got the pet firmly grounded in the new environment you may begin the training proper.

Begin teaching them the various behaviors and tasks you'd like them to exhibit. This can be done using traditional classical conditioning methods. Offer rewards when the subject is good and harsh punishments when the subject is bad. You will want to guilt trip the pet prior to dolling out more physical punishments and encourage the pet to admit to mistakes by "rewarding" them with less severe punishments should they come forward.

The subject should be under surveillance as much as possible; however, there should not necessarily be visible cues that you're doing this. If the pet makes a mistake or commits some other transgression, you should, next time you see them, allow an opportunity for the pet to confess (without prompting them). If they confess to their crime and plead forgiveness say that you'll "think about it" and leave the pet on edge for a while before finally deciding not to punish them or punish them in a noticeably less severe manner.

>>4592042

Part Four: Enjoy

Due to the extensive conditioning (and standard Stockholm Syndrome), the subject will now be submissive and display the desired behaviors.

While no further training may be necessary (unless you decide you want the pet to do something new later on), you will need to periodically reinforce less commonly exhibited behaviors.

Additionally, your pet will come in handy as a role model should you choose to adopt a second one.

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>>4592046

Another note to this, if you can, you may want to invest in a college psychology text book. Specifically one dealing with theories of learning. The book will go into greater detail about some the techniques used and you may pick up something I missed.

>>4592062
http://health.howstuffworks.com/brainwashing.htm may come in handy as well.

God, I shouldn't be posting this.

>>4592074
Assault on identity: You are not who you think you are.
This is a systematic attack on a target's sense of self (also called his identity or ego) and his core belief system. The agent denies everything that makes the target who he is: "You are not a soldier." "You are not a man." "You are not defending freedom." The target is under constant attack for days, weeks or months, to the point that he becomes exhausted, confused and disoriented. In this state, his beliefs seem less solid.

Guilt: You are bad.
While the identity crisis is setting in, the agent is simultaneously creating an overwhelming sense of guilt in the target. He repeatedly and mercilessly attacks the subject for any "sin" the target has committed, large or small. He may criticize the target for everything from the "evilness" of his beliefs to the way he eats too slowly. The target begins to feel a general sense of shame, that everything he does is wrong.

>>4592088
Self-betrayal: Agree with me that you are bad.
Once the subject is disoriented and drowning in guilt, the agent forces him (either with the threat of physical harm or of continuance of the mental attack) to denounce his family, friends and peers who share the same "wrong" belief system that he holds. This betrayal of his own beliefs and of people he feels a sense of loyalty to increases the shame and loss of identity the target is already experiencing.

Breaking point: Who am I, where am I and what am I supposed to do?
With his identity in crisis, experiencing deep shame and having betrayed what he has always believed in, the target may undergo what in the lay community is referred to as a "nervous breakdown." In psychology, "nervous breakdown" is really just a collection of severe symptoms that can indicate any number of psychological disturbances. It may involve uncontrollable sobbing, deep depression and general disorientation. The target may have lost his grip on reality and have the feeling of being completely lost and alone.

When the target reaches his breaking point, his sense of self is pretty much up for grabs -- he has no clear understanding of who he is or what is happening to him. At this point, the agent sets up the temptation to convert to another belief system that will save the target from his misery.

>>4592094
­­Leniency: I can help you.
With ­the target in a state of crisis, the agent offers some small kindness or reprieve from the abuse. He may offer the target a drink of water, or take a moment to ask the target what he misses about home. In a state of breakdown resulting from an endless psychological attack, the small kindness seems huge, and the target may experience a sense of relief and gratitude completely out of proportion to the offering, as if the agent has saved his life.

Compulsion to confession: You can help yourself.
For the first time in the brainwashing process, the target is faced with the contrast between the guilt and pain of identity assault and the sudden relief of leniency. The target may feel a desire to reciprocate the kindness offered to him, and at this point, the agent may present the possibility of confession as a means to relieving guilt and pain.

>>4592096
Channeling of guilt: This is why you're in pain.
After weeks or months of assault, confusion, breakdown and moments of leniency, the target's guilt has lost all meaning -- he's not sure what he has done wrong, he just knows he is wrong. This creates something of a blank slate that lets the agent fill in the blanks: He can attach that guilt, that sense of "wrongness," to whatever he wants. The agent attaches the target's guilt to the belief system the agent is trying to replace. The target comes to believe it is his belief system that is the cause of his shame. The contrast between old and new has been established: The old belief system is associated with psychological (and usually physical) agony; and the new belief system is associated with the possibility of escaping that agony.

Releasing of guilt: It's not me; it's my beliefs.
The embattled target is relieved to learn there is an external cause of his wrongness, that it is not he himself that is inescapably bad -- this means he can escape his wrongness by escaping the wrong belief system. All he has to do is denounce the people and institutions associated with that belief system, and he won't be in pain anymore. The target has the power to release himself from wrongness by confessing to acts associated with his old belief system.

With his full confessions, the target has completed his psychological rejection of his former identity. It is now up to the agent to offer the target a new one.

>>4592105
­Progress and harmony: If you want, you can choose good.
The agent introduces a new belief system as the path to "good." At this stage, the agent stops the abuse, offering the target physical comfort and mental calm in conjunction with the new belief system. The target is made to feel that it is he who must choose between old and new, giving the target the sense that his fate is in his own hands. The target has already denounced his old belief system in response to leniency and to­rment, and making a "conscious choice" in favor of the contrasting belief system helps to further relieve his guilt: If he truly believes, then he really didn't betray anyone. The choice is not a difficult one: The new identity is safe and desirable because it is nothing like the one that led to his breakdown.

Final confession and rebirth: I choose good.
Contrasting the agony of the old with the peacefulness of the new, the target chooses the new identity, clinging to it like a life preserver. He rejects his old belief system and pledges allegiance to the new one that is going to make his life better. At this final stage, there are often rituals or ceremonies to induct the converted target into his new community. This stage has been described by some brainwashing victims as a feeling of "rebirth."

Certain personality traits of the brainwashing targets can determine the effectiveness of the process. People who commonly experience great self doubt, have a weak sense of identity, and show a tendency toward guilt and absolutism (black-and-white thinking) are more likely to be successfully brainwashed, while a strong sense of identity and self-confidence can make a target more resistant to brainwashing. Some accounts show that faith in a higher power can assist a target in mentally detaching from the process. Mental detachment is one of the POW-survival techniques now taught to soldiers as part of their training. It involves the target psychologically removing himself from his actual surroundings through visualization, the constant repetition of a mantra and various other meditative techniques. The military also teaches soldiers about the methods used in brainwashing, because a target's knowledge of the process tends to make it less effective.

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>>4592046

thats... surprisingly hot

>>4592074
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>>4592112

This stuff is really good, I'm totally holding on to it

>>4592185

Agreed, saved as well. If this is up in seven hours Ill take out my Intro to Psych textbook and notes, then flip to the part on Social Psychology/applied Psychology and my notes on cults

Slave training is a traditional game

>>4592270

I would think so. It's thousands of years old.

If only your mother or father was a Slaaneshi Cultist. I'm sure they would have been great. Or when your car breaks down and you need your best friend to give you a ride home, but hes too stoned/fucked to death/stuffing his fat maw to come pick you up. How about your boyfriend/girlfriend? Do I even have to go on?

Keep worshiping Slaneesh, I'm sure the deep fulfillment that only self indulgence can grant will fill your life with happiness.

>>4592333

I think your argument is a tad flawed. You might be better off saying something to the effect of: The only way we can judge the value of our own lives is by valuing the lives of others.

>>4592333
>How about your boyfriend/girlfriend?

aside from the drugs, my girlfriend has kinky sex with a woman who has a penis, I think she's well on her way

better than consensual heterosexual sex in the emperor's missionary position IMO

>>4592536

That's why every worshiper of Slaanesh owns a pet

>>4592536

Thank you, that was much more eloquent.

>>4592333
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>>4592607

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjPu7W5qrIA

>>4592647

You fucking heretics just got told.

>>4592681
actually since Slaanesh is all about pursuing an unobtainable goal (perfection) Slaanesh cultists are by that argument the happiest people, since they're continuously dreaming of/searching for future pleasures

go back 2 /schola progenium philosophy 101/

>>4592706

Slaanesh = Do the impossible, see the invisible?

>>4593722
ROW, ROW, RAPE THE POWER

This explains why Kamina and Simon didn't like shirts.

>>4593759

I think it explains bouncy Yoko more.

>>4592706
Repaying the Eternal Debt is just as unobtainable, except with that one Final Sacrifice (and afterwards you don't have to worry anymore). With heretical Slaaneshism, you're just bound to fail on the way (by dying from overdose - or on the pyre), as you can never reach the Ultimate Pleasure, if it even exists.

Pure faith in the Emperor, on the other hand, gives you constant serenity by the simple assurance that you are walking the right path. You do not have to struggle on a constant quest for some next achievement, only to discard it upon attaining it. Better yet, His most enlightened emissaries - the honored preachers and confessors of the One True Ecclesiarchy - shall guide you on that single road towards salvation, without any intermission.

>>4593772

But Slaanesh gives you the opportunity to nail a sister of battle.

>>4594504

You forward a convincing argument. Go on.

>>4594531

Go on? What more could you want? You know that a sister would fuck like a tiger.

And, I suppose working with the dark eldar could get you into the a sister's battle armor, too... but I think Slaanesh is more likely to work with you than the DE.

this whole damn thread.

Motherfucker, this is still up? /tg/, you impress me yet again. Wait a tick, I'm gonna go find my textbook and my notes. Massive, broken up posts incoming seems to be the weather forecast for this thread.

Also:
>>4592333

There is no heaven. There is no sitting by the side of the emperor. There is no resurrection with the coming of the emperor. There is only the laughter of thirsting gods, who will never be too full to accept the newest wave of souls for their consumption. The warp awaits all humans. That is the truth anyone who stares into the warp knows. It is your greatest, deluded hope that the warp has stared back into them before they can tell you what the truth of your ending really is.

Damn, I thought I would miss this thread. Good to see it still up.
I like all the new information on slavery. Not much I didn't know already, but it's alot of good material, and the program will work.
Slave training doesn't really take a huge monetary investment, just an increase in utilities from increased water and food usage, but it is a tremendous investment of time.
Is it worth it? Yes and no. A personal slave is awesome. And don't anyone tell you otherwise.
But slave training isn't something I'd want to do full time. It's too close to work.

Let me make this clear: Not everyone can handle the hedonistic life of excess that I've been preaching. Chaos is all things, covers all paths, encompasses all actions, but hedonism, and specifically Slaaneshi Hedonism, is but one path. Though it may be to me the most glorious of the paths, that it is the path leading to happiness, this does not necessarily ring true with others. Some will follow other paths. Some will walk down to path of hedonism for a while, before turning, and finding a path that suits them better. We can't change that fact, my fellow Slaaneshi Cultists.
But here is what we can do. We can welcome all who would attempt our path and shower them with welcoming gifts of oral sex and alcohol. (Take from me, nothing can put you at easy faster in a strange place then blowjobs and mead.) So accept those that willingly walk our path, and let those that don't walk away. One day they may turn from their path to ours, and that it a things to celebrate.
Of course, even if they don't change their mind, well not everyone can be willing. What would those of us with a taste for subjugating the unwilling do if no one ever said no?

>>4596329
Reading this makes me mildly aroused.

>>4596358
Then I'm doing it right.
Now if I could only get enough people together to start a church. Man, the things I could do with a big enough congregation...

dont you feel bad for the slave?
losing who you are cant be fun.

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>>4596096

Sup man! Sorry I was late if you were here yesterday afternoon, I did post it around last night though, and /tg/ was kind enough to keep it at page seven until I got up at nine this morning. Can't find my textbook, but I've got some notes of my own from it. Let's see if I can make any sense out of them.

Here's some notes on cultist creation. It mentions

Unfreezing, or a loosening of prior beliefs
Change, abandoning former beliefs
and
Refreeze, the solidification of new beliefs.
I think that was the textbook mentioning
>>4592074
In less words and depth. Here's some stuff on making angry people I put in here for some reason- maybe to rile up your new slaves and make them guard dogs, I dunno.

Aggression Cues: Signals associated with aggression- sensitivity to weapons because of aggression: See weapons effect
Weapons effect: When weapons are presented people -> Autonomic Nervous System, Sympathetic Response-> Parasympathetic Response.
That seems to say people get more aggressive, not necessarily hostile though, when weapons are present, due to the Sympathetic Response (fight or flight) kicking in.

There's some stuff that might be viewed as simple enough but not often thought about I've got in here as well:
Frustration-> Aggression->Frther Frustration+ no reduction of prvs frustration-> Hostility
Aversive Stimuli Produce discomfort
Displeasure-> Heightens aggression

And some more stuff on Brainwashing
1) Isolated from others w/same points of view as self
2) Dependent on captors for satisfaction of needs (breathing, elimination, sustenance, stimulation)
3) Indoctrinating agent can reward the target for changes in attitude &/or behavior.

>>4596437
Not really.
Just don't see a slave as a person. You've got to see slaves as objects or property, not people, if you want to train one.

This thread is fucking deplorable. GG, /tg/.

>>4596486
haha, i couldnt be on with that.
guess im just not cut out for kay-oss

Reading this thread got me thinking, and I've just realized how easy the life of a Nurglite must be. All that papa asks of you is to remove from your life the time-consuming tasks of cleansing oneself and one's surroundings. Instead of going out and spending money on all these foods and sex toys and drugs, I'm going to sit on my cozy pile of trash, training and bettering my immune system by letting anything assail me that wishes to. I don't clean, I don't wash my hands, I don't shower, and this frees up more time for me to relax and do what I want. I will eat the cheapest, most processed food, freeing up more money so I don't have to work as hard. My goals are to free up as much time to myself so that more of my life can be my own. I await death with open arms, because I will have had most of my life to myself, not taken from me by other people.

Does this sound familiar, fellow fa/tg/uys?

One of the stupidest things ever to be posted on /tg/, after memes and touhou, respectively.

>>4596501

1/10. Troll harder.

Though in a few hours I think I'll start a joke thread now called Cuddles40K: How to Carebear Cultist just to make all the people I'm horrifying feel better. It'll be about cultist deprogramming, which was in the unit after the one I'm currently reading notes out of. Oh, and general operant conditioning stuff, so /tg/ can train its little brother to sneeze every time it smells lemonade or something like that.

Gonna go and look again, see if I can't find that textbook. There's some interesting stuff on Salesman techniques that I recalled could be of use in here!

>>4596538

Oh, it wasn't a troll. This thread actually physically disgusts me.

epic slavemaking thread FTW.

>>4596512
ive been with Nurgle since day 1

>>4596548

Then hide the thread so you don't have to cry about how the world is so much nastier than you thought it was, or how you didn't realize that you think of some people as beneath you just like we do. Grown ups are talking now. Still looking for that fucking textbook...

sowait
you take a willing person?
or abduct someone?

>>4596485
I was on in the morning, but in the afternoon I had a Twisted Tea Party to go to. And once the tea party broke up, there was a impromptu rain dance as storms rolled in.
So I wasn't on the net much yesterday evening.

I wouldn't recommend the use of slaves as guard dogs. I just wouldn't trust a slave that had enough aggression in it to fight.

Speaking of dogs, somepeople think it's a great idea to break a slave by treating it like a dog and even go as far as keeping it with a dog. This is supposedly a very bad idea in that your potential slave will draw strength from the dogs and take much much longer to break.
I don't know if it's true or not, but it sounds reasonable. I can't stand dogs, though. So it's never been a big issue.

>>4594638
Dark Eldar Haemonculi will sometimes train slaves in torture and then set them free if they see the slave exhibits tendencies of the Dark Eldar mindset; ie enjoy torturing others, no sympathy or mercy for anything, etc.

So basically if you can emulate a Dark Eldar (and do so completely, to the very core of your being), Haemonculi may let you work for them.

>>4596592
i still find it weird that someone like you would play DnD or 40k.. collecting and painting miniatures, and d'aawing at cutebold stories, just seems waaaay out for someone like you.

>>4596584
There is a loaded question. The answer is yes, to both.
Some people want to be slaves. And if that's what you want, who am I to stop you?
Don't think just because they ask for slavehood, that it's going to be easier. In general, it will take more to break down someone going into it of their own will. And you must break them, otherwise it's not slavery, just servitude.
Abduction is has it's own problems, though. Finding a victim, not getting the caught, relocating the victim, isolating...It's not easy. Basic rules follow: Acquire your new slave from out of town or better out of state, and then never return to that town with the slave. Also, don't follow your slave for days looking for the best moment, or hang out around schools or businesses looking for that perfect slave. Find someone that conforms to your standards of beauty, grab then and go. Use a van or truck. Keep them gagged, tied and preferably unconscious during the relocation. And if you get the chance, burn or cut off her fingerprints. They won't completely vanish, but they'll change enough that you can get by a scan if you ever get printed.

>>4596638
Strategy and tactics.
I play DnD for the dungeon crawling, puzzle solving, trap avoiding, and the combat. The role play is amusing, but not what keeps me going.
And miniature gaming is great. I love war gaming. I love the tactical aspect. I love planning and adapting and just masterminding.
I also play a lot of Othello and Chess.
And card games. Love a good card game.

>>4596592

You are a bad person and you should feel bad.

Slavery I can understand. But not liking dogs? That's just evil.

>>4596760
What this fa/tg/uy said.

Dogs are awesome.

>>4596760
Hah!
This a surprisingly common sentiment. It still amuses me the amount of people in the world that wouldn't piss on their fellow man if he were on fire, but would go out of their way, investing money and time, into a random dog in distress.

>>4596760
i fucking hate dogs
i thought everyone on /tg/ would be cat people, like me

>>4596783
ca/tg/irls

Dogs are horrible animals.

>>4596760
>>4596783
I love cats AND dogs.

Frequently.

>>4596798

YOU are a horrible animal.

>>4596782
It's the cute.
And we all know people are bastards.

>>4596782
What is a man? A lying, greedy piece of filth.

What is a dog? A loyal, devoted companion, a true friend.

steering this shakily back on track
i read some copypasta about dogs on women beastiality shit
it made me so insecure, i felt like shit, apparanly basset hounds can come for up to 40 minuites, and dogs like huskys can sometimes get ther dicks in so far the woman never stops orgasming [sic] for the entire thing.
something like.. the base of their dick all swells up, and you cant take it out, then thats it, they just fuck you up.

>>4596834
>explicit bestiality on /tg/
>implying that depth of penetration is correlated to intensity/duration of female orgasm

Well, eff it - there's no image macro for what I'm feeling, so I'm sending this wee robot in your general direction instead.

>>4596834
That process is called knotting. Anyone with any knowledge of canine biology knows about it.

>>4596659
addtionally, I highly recommend the unique feel of fresh flesh formed on one's fingertips.

It's like you're touching everything for the first time.

>>4596853
hey man, im not into it myself i dont know anything about it really, just reciting what i read.
they linked me to some dodgy forums aswell, it made me feel really shit as a guy to read the stories the women were putting up about how much better these dogs were.

>>4596861
Unfortunately.

Can't find my new textbook, I'm going to go pick up an old one I used to have then. Could be cool to do psychology/philosophy threads for all the chaos gods. Or even the Imperium military indoctrination.

I have the flu and this thread made me hard

>>4596896
Why did I lol?

>>4596867
If there's one thing that hasn't been mentioning on this thread, it's the subjecting of others to the pleasures and pains of the flesh.

>>4596834
It was the Spring Equinox, I think. She was some kind of nature obsessed lesbian, said that dogsex how she connected to the animal world. Not really to my taste, flat chested, but she fucked a dog infront of a crowd of strangers, so she gets props. That and the mud wrestling is all I remember from that night.
I've never tried beasitality. No real interest. I know some guys like to watch their slaves or subs fuck animals, but I never really got off on it.

Well, this thread was a success, about 1 quarter of the way in I'm so disgusted I want to kill someone. Hedonists sicken me and deserve to die, they contribute nothing to the overall growth of humanity and serve only as social parasites. GOD FUCKING DAMNIT THE PURE RAGE THIS INSPIRES. I don't think I've ever been this angry before, I can honestly say beyond a shadow of a doubt I would happily hack every single limb off the authors of these pieces of copypasta just for the sheer pleasure of it. Individuality is sacred and the pursuit of happiness is supposed to be an inalienable right.

>>4596867
Truth!
I accidentally stuck my thumb in a puddle of molten lead once, and while it burned and hurt like few things have since then, it felt amazing as it healed.

>>4596930
>Individuality is sacred and the pursuit of happiness is supposed to be an inalienable right.

>>4596910
that's an advanced course.

But, any former emo kid can tell you that there is a thin line between pleasure and pain.

cutting oneself just to feel the unique sensation of flesh parting and being sliced is...
well, unique.

Yes, there is pain, but that can be trained to be pleasurable.
You start small, making tiny incisions with a razor into the soft pliant flesh of your wrists and thighs.

Be sure to use a fresh and sharp razor that has been stored in oil to prevent rust, and clean it properly before you begin.

begin by lightly raking your skin.
Human skin has 7 layers to it, each one producing its own feeling as you rend them.
As you get better, you can find a precise level of pressure to cut without drawing blood, and still get a lovely sensation.

>>4596932
This is very helpful advice, and I appreciate the time you took to type it out.
That said, I may have to nail you to a wall and throw the wall into the ocean at some point.
No hard feelings?

>>4596930
once you destroy them their true happyness will be to serve you. They will be happy, all they need to do is go through a transitory period that will hurt.

>>4596940
Oh thank god I'm not alone in this loony bin.

>>4596930
Then what do you have against my pursuit of happiness?
Seriously, pursuit of happiness is all well and good, but what does it mean when you are dealing with sadists who are happy when others are in pain?
Everyone looks out for themselves. People only help others for gain. Either material, or for the fleeting feeling of happiness they get for helping.
But anyway, enjoy your rage. Sounds like you have a bit of a dismemberment fetish going.

>>4596951
No, they'll be egoless shells that cling to any source of affection available. It is not your place to decide what happiness is to another person. Disregard this as internet toughguyism as you will, but I'd happily put an axe in your back just to hear your bones crack.

>>4596951
truth.

happiness is a matter of perspective.
If a man is born knowing nothing but a gray room and meals of gruel and water, then even a simple treat of a carrot or apple can bring him incredible happiness.

>>4596930
>>4596940
Morality is subjective. Western, modern society and its precious human rights say that everyone has rights to their freedom, individuality and pursuit of happiness.
Break free of this indoctrinated morality, and you're the only one who dictates who deserves what - as long as your actions remain undiscovered.

inb4 Hell Raiser

>>4596957
Your pursuit of happiness destroys the rights of others to pursue their own happiness. You're no long a human being at the point in which you cross the threshold of caring only about yourself into the domain of actively destroying the freedoms of others.

>>4596969
The concept of those three inalienable rights is the only logical form of morality.

>>4596975
But you are wrong.
That slave will never know a greater pleasure than serving their master.

By bringing them back to a simpler existence, you are making their lives BETTER.
Happiness is all perspective, you change your perspective, and happiness can be easier to obtain, rather than chase.

>>4596957
>People only help others for gain
hey what! im really nice to people al the ti-
>for the fleeting feeling of happiness they get for helping.
a-... hmmm...

>>4596957
I derive no sexual pleasure from the idea of ending you, only the satisfaction that you wont taint the world any longer.

>>4596985
IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT MAKES THEM HAPPY.

How much of your morals comes from your environment, and how much do you think was inherited as a human being?
How are you going to keep one person's freedoms from encroaching on anothers?
What makes a human, if you think some of the people in this thread aren't humans then?

And this one's just for me: Did any of you actually think people didn't talk about this, or do you just not want to see it?

>>4596983
Second.

BETTER CRIPPLED IN BODY THAN CORRUPT IN MIND

With the thrice-damned renegades of lewd Slaanesh, your well-tried techniques of forceful inquisition will serve you ill. These voluptuaries and heretics that debase themselves before their so-called Lord of Dark Delights are not to be unburdened of their lisping truths by subtle pressures or the keen probing of your instruments. Conspiring against all decency even in such matters, these libertines take pleasure from our inquiries, debauching themselves with inhuman dissolution upon the racks and wheels of Verity. For these abominations, other methods are required...

>>4596975
how is training a slave any different from raising a child?

You're already a slave to the social mores set by your parents and their parents before them.

You have no individuality, your personality was formed by careful indoctrination and brainwashing by a society you had no choice but to participate in.

>>4596918
Do you have any tips on how to find similar sorts of "congregations" in your local area?

I've been very interested in hedonism for a while, I just haven't been able to find a good place to go.

>>4597005
Only if people are incapable of independant thought.

FBI here
fucking sweet, now i can browse at work and not get told off.

>>4596983

God-DAMN is that close-minded. The English and Indians, the Chinese and Japanese, the Israeli's and the Arabians and the REST OF THE FUCKING WORLD would like to have a word with your idea for what makes morality pal.

Does a man not have inalienable rights?

>>4597018
Children are incapable of independant thought for several years.

During these formative years, society makes sure they are heavily conditioned to fit into modern social mores.

Everyone alive today are slaves already.
Your shackles are not simple iron, but they bind you all the same.

>>4597005

As with all philosophy threads I find on /tg/, since they inevitably turn out thought provoking for being made by a load of the socially deviant, ARCHIVE.

ITT: Neckbeards fap to the idea of actually having spines.

Protip: Morality works. Roll with it.

>>4597033
Man can throw off his shackles and become great if he only realizes his unlimited capacity to do so.

>>4597027

>>4596996
All morals are learned, I came to mine of my own accord and reason. I spent much of my adult life in constant introspection and questioning.
How am I going to keep one person's freedoms from encroaching upon anothers? Simple, through the most basic of human mechanisms: force. At the point where you start impeding the rights of other humans, you've stopped being an effective social animal and have become instead a rabid dog, rabid dogs are best put down.
What makes you human? Fundamentally, being a collection of flesh an organs in a humanoid carriage with the capacity for reason and abstract thought. However in my opinion, the capacity to act as a social creature with the understanding that you are in no way better or worse than any other human. The knowledge that as you pursue your own dreams and goals, so to do others pursue their own dreams and goals of equal validity.

No, I know people discuss concepts like this all the time. I prefer that such discussion is used as knowledge to combat such people, but the fact is that it is often used to exchange techniques, a fact that sickens me to my core.

I'm going to end this on a note that I don't often play: someday, you're going to see me in a position of power. I swore this long ago and even as I come closer to departing what little youth I had left, I hold to it. I'll do my best to make people like you regret my existence, my very soul is put to that sentiment. Disregard me as you please.

>>4596983
You've got your own moral ethos. You generally inherit the morality of the soceity that you're raised within.

In the end, it's completely subjective. People with a more dominant personality ignore the rights of others while those with more submissive personalities ignore their own.

True, maybe you believe in the only successful form of morality for a social, acceptabe lifestyle in the modern world.
However, it certainly isn't the only logical one, depending on your position.

Sonovabitch, someone already archived. A vote-up then!

For the purposes of the slave discussion, I used similar techniques on myself.

I destroyed(or at least heavily damaged) my social mores and conditioning and shame and morals etc etc so that I could recreate them myself.

I used to be an incredibly shy, moody, immature whiny little prick, but after I hit rock bottom and absolutely hated myself, I rebuilt myself to be a better, in my eyes at least, person.

>>4597047

>>4596965
Come at me with an axe and ill shoot you with a gun and enjoy it too.

Though this is all discussion, do you honestly believe anyone in this thread would go out and do the things prescribed? Indulging in a fantasy is one thing, bringing it to reality is another altogether.

>>4597005
A child is an individual yet to be formed. A slave is an individual that you need to destroy first.

>>4597025
All of those societies have been plagued by tyrants and monsters. I hold to now particular society, just an ideology that all human beings are equal and deserve an equal chance at happiness.

>>4597033
I have had a rare opportunity in life. My personality was long ago destroyed and had no guiding hand but my own in its reconstruction. I can say with all confidence, I am not a slave.

Is a man entitled to choose a life of morality and positive actions?

>>4597048 However in my opinion, the capacity to act as a social creature with the understanding that you are in no way better or worse than any other human.

So you don't believe yourself above those who harm others for their own pleasure, or for the pleasure of those who crave being enslaved and utterly dominated, free of most common worries and responsibilities?

A MAN CHOOSES. A SLAVE OBEYS.

>>4597017
See, that's the real trick. Most people aren't going to advertise their preferences.
Start by joining your BDSM group in town. You're town will have one, it just may be harder to find in a smaller city. The internet is a good place to start.
Once you find the group, join it, and get a feel for it's members. After a while of regular attendance, you'll start to get a feel for the one that just into bedroom bondage, the lifestylers, and the real hedonist. The last will probably unliked or slightly ostracized from the group. BDSMers have all these rules and if you don't play by them, they don't let you play. The people you are looking for don't play by the rules.
Be subtle in your inquiries.
Most people like me aren't part of the BDSM groups. I'm not and never have been. But I've got friends who have friends. And through them I've met a lot of very interesting people. Eventually you'll end up at the right kind of party, and meet the right kind of people. It's all fun and games from then on.

>>4597073
>I have had a rare opportunity in life. My personality was long ago destroyed and had no guiding hand but my own in its reconstruction. I can say with all confidence, I am not a slave.

inb4 a douche casting doubt on this and saying that's just what society wants you to think or some bullshit like that.

>>4597036
social deviance is the only way to promote free thinking when society demands conformity and predictability for the ease of control.

thus, a quandry, how does a society grow and evolve when growth and evolution is viewed as undesirable?
How does a society maintain order without stomping out freedom and individuality?

>>4596930
I think we got some Khorne fellas in this thread!

>>4597067
There are people who do, this fact infuriates me on a fundamental level. Also, I'm quite aware of the marvels of modern technology. I'm not some katana waving tit who believes guns to be dishonorable.

>>4597074
Indeed, not just entitled, obligated.

>>4596930
>polite applause.

>>4597078
I don't believe myself above humans. I already said I don't view them as human. It's as simple as that.

>Indeed, not just entitled, obligated.

But what of the man who says no? Is he bound by his belief that man is not free and created equal?

>>4597084
the best slaves are the ones who imagine their servitude makes them free.

>>4597104
As long as he doesn't interfere with the lives of humans, he can do as he wishes.

I wonder if the White Knights know that moral superiority can be claimed by the Hedonists just as much as the white knights use their righteousness.

>>4597073
Incorrect.
A child can be shaped and melded and become a slave. Would this still offend your morality?
The U.S.S.R. had all men as equals beneath Stalin. Yeah, look at what happened.
Also, you did not make your own personality unless it was broken down and reformed in a place with no society and no other people.

What would TR say about this?

>>4597105
Again, I am no slave, I chose my life. I however did not say I am not currently in a state of servitude. My servitude however goes higher than any singular degenerate.

>>4596501
Gee poster, we are talking about DIY a Slaaneshi cult and cultists to go with it. DUH!
This is great source material to base WH40k fanfic or a DH game around if you want to run a hedonist campaign.

>>4597113
Time to bring out the big stick?

>>4597115
You chose your life based on the morality that you were subjected to and grew up with. You did not choose your own path. Your choices are based upon the impressions that others have left on you.

>>4597103


Transcendentalism and Anti-Nomianism say hello Cpt. Righteous.

>>4597109
In those instances, I would happily let force decide the superior there.

>>4597111
Equal beneath Stalin. But I believe all humans to be equal period. I will simply become their shepherd.

Now, everyone is of course a creation of circustance, but I was not crafted by an intentional hand. Instead I saw the world around me and chose what I wished to make of it.

>>4597124
At what point does a man decide for himself?

Free men know.

>>4597126
Why should I care? More flawed morality.

>>4596782
I agree, the fuckers evolved an awesome survival mehcanism if they can overrride the 'protect your fellow human' conduct.

Everything begins with choice.

Some men will choose not to be hedonists. Does this make him a slave or is he simply expressing his freedom?

Please, stop white knighting and conforming to modern society's form of morality. It isn't correct - no form of morality is correct.
No man deserves to be limited and restricted by any other, according modern Western morality. However, in the end, you're still limited and controlled by the people who invented the laws that govern the modern world.
However, the morality suggested in this thread is different: if you view it as available, do whatever you want to take it. if you view it as yours, do whatever you want with it. if others want it, do whatever you want to protect it.

>>4597148
My morality can be used as the basis of an empire. What can yours be used as the basis of?

>>4597140
Why should you care?
Oh I love that.
Why should I care about your mores and values?
You don't see me as human. Fine. Why should that bother me?
Humans are walking bags of meat only interested in living out their sad little lives with as few bothers or cares as possible.
Even you, even I.
I try to pack as much life as I can in the relatively short years I have before I die. Maybe I'll hurt some people on the way. Who cares? Soon enough, I'll be dead. Eventually everyone currently alive will be dead. And I'll be forgotten, most likely. And so will you.

>>4597155
Pleasure houses owned and operated by free men.

>shiteatinggrin.jpg

>>4597147
I believe there is nothing wrong with not being a hedonist. I mentioned before how I don't think it's the life for everyone.

>>4597155
The basis of pre-history human society.

>>4597160
How old are you?

I ask this because you are far along a path that I wish to travel myself, and some sort of general " get there around this age" kind of goal would help.

>>4597160
Why should you care? Excuse the toughguyism, but pray we do not meet. You also make the assumption that I'm not every bit as committed to my life as you, the difference is, my believes will build and create, yours will result only in fleeting moments of pleasure. Someday I *will* look upon the countryside and know, without so much as a faint glimmer of doubt, that I made it a better place, can you say the same?

>>4597182
It is the belief that he matters and can make a difference that helps make a man free, does it not?

>>4597182
Because its more fun.

>>4597182
He can look at the world as he lies on his death-bed and know without a doubt that he lived out his life just as he wanted it, not allowing anyone else to limit him.

>>4597182
In some cases, yes.

Besides, the hedonist can look up and down their lives and see something of worth - and they're not exactly going to care about the rest of the world when their life runs out.

ITT: The Free Man can be a Hedonist, but the Hedonist cannot be a Free Man.

>>4597199
>>4597201
Truly, an accomplishment worth looking upon with pride, but what of the lives of those you stepped on to get there? They are made of the same organic material and capable of the same abstract thought as you, truly their desires were just as valid as you own. How can you honestly live with snuffing those out?

>>4597207
>ITT: The Free Man can be a Hedonist, but the Hedonist cannot be a Free Man.
A hedonist can believe themselves to be free in a metaphysical point of view - they are free from the restrictive morality that governs most 'normal' people.

>>4597226
Most normal people aren't restricted by morality, they're restricted by fear.

>>4597182
I never meant to imply that you are less committed to you path then I am mine.
I don't understand your beliefs, much like I imagine you don't understand mine.
At no point have I tried to sway you from your path. I have tried to explain my path and why I walk it, but that is simply the giving of knowledge.

>>4597179
I'm around 30. I might be a few years older, or maybe a few years younger. I try not to give out too many details when I'm discussing the illegalities of my life.
I really started to walk the path of hedonism when I was 23, though. If you start earlier, you may get there sooner. Or maybe not. Everyone travels at their own path.

>>4597220
All men are born equally, but all men live unequally.

Life Experience is the great destabilizer.

>>4597220
With pity. They were not strong enough to become wolves, so they remained sheep. To survive, the wolf must eat the sheep.

Fuck anything you say?

>>4597234
As fun as this has been, I must bid you a farewell. I would like to reaffirm that I do still hold to everything I've said so far. I however would like to change a sentiment, I do not hate you, I am merely saddened that a human being with the same potential to build a greater humanity as any other human being would so stray from such a calling.

>>4597245
Sure, it's worth trying at least once. Do not limit yourself. Experience everything and experience it more than once if you enjoy it. If you do not enjoy it, do not experience it again.

>>4597249
Second, but I would add that he can make humanity great as well as himself in the process.

>>4597241
But what if the wolves were to instead protect the sheep? To help ensure that the sheep lived lives of prosperity and happiness, accepting what the sheep have to offer so that the wolves may survive as well? It is not possible for this to happen within the animal kingdom, but with humanity it is not only possible, it's proven itself to be quite the effective survival strategy.

>>4597259
2nd.

>>4597249
You have a choice:
Make the world a little better with your life or make yourself great.

>>4597286
I consider the former to be fulfilling the latter. Also, damnit, I do indeed need to sleep, curse you /tg/. For what it's worth however, you rather nicely ruined my post work good mood.

TIRED OF USELESS HEDONISTS WASTING RESOURCES ON THEIR PERSONAL PLEASURE?

PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATE OVER THE RIGHTS OF MAN NOT DOING IT FOR YOU?

DEVOTE YOUR LIFE TO KHORNE!
PROSPERITY THROUGH PHYSICAL FORCE!

Holy shit, some of us agreed to disagree!

>>4597303
SHIT, FORGOT MAH MARK!

eat anything you say?

>>4597259
then the wolves starve, and the sheep prosper.

Living in this world requires a little give and take.
The wolves must eat to survive.
The wolves must also moderate their eating to ensure mutual survival.
The wolves must also die, to nourish the grass and feed the sheep.

We can't all be wolves, and we can't all be sheep.
We all must feed.

>>4597324
I could be totally fine with that, were it not at the expense of others.

>>4597330
oh, I forgot.

The sheep eventually die also.

>>4597330
Too bad nature programed us to only be wolves.

>>4597339
you're kidding, right?

there are plenty of human sheep.
Every time you make someone do something for you, give you something for nothing, or bend to your will, that person becomes the sheep to your wolf.

>>4597330
The wolves you refer to however do not require to feed on the sheep. Humanity is not a simple matter of wolves versus sheep, it's humans and those that consider themselves above humanity. The wolves could simply cease 'feeding' entirely and suffer no ill effects. They could moderate their feeding to not come at cost to others. But instead, they abandon restraint and consider themselves to be the only creatures worthy of being called human, a title they are unwilling to bestow even to other wolves, and that is why I carry nothing short of total disdain for them. I would call it a casual disregard for their beings, but I know all too well that I would love nothing more than to actively end them, thus denying me the right to refer to it as casual.

>>4597339
So it's up to us to force others into the position of the sheep and program them to become sheep.

>>4597351
You couldn't be further from the truth. Assuming they weren't coerced into their actions, all it makes both parties is human.

The title shepherd is seeming so much more apt now.

>>4597358
The wolf can cease to feed to no ill effect.
The wolf can feed for positive effect - for its own enjoyment and for its own amusement.

>>4597358
You are a sheep.

You can't possibly know what it means to be a wolf.

Human advancement comes upon the broken bodies of other humans.
You stand on the shoulders of those before you to climb ever higher.

you devour the weak so the strong remain.

Humans are very much sheep, wolves, and all manners of in-between.

Your boss at work is a wolf.
They prey upon you by forcing you to handle work beneath them, so they can focus on more important matters.

This thread has spiraled greatly out of control.
Does anyone have anything left to contribute on how to be a hedonist or questions for me?
Cause otherwise, I'm likely to move on from this thread. I've send my piece on the subject, and as much as I enjoy teaching others the way of my path, I obtain no pleasure from watching people debate circularly about the nature of humanity.

>>4597372
Choosing to be used by another is coercion all the same.

You did a project your boss took credit for because you wanted to keep your job.
Sure, you were willing, but you still had the choice to refuse and didn't take it.

you are a sheep to their wolf.
they feast on your weak flesh to make them stronger.

>>4597392
No, I am a shepherd. My boss is no wolf, he is a man, as simple as I. I agree to accept monetary compensation to perform tasks to my own comfortable limits. The key here is choice. A true wolf would try to force me to perform these tasks, but it is my nature as a shepherd to put wolves down.

>>4597406
The thread's going into autosage.
No need for you to remain - your job here is done.
Thank you, magnificent devian/tg/uy.

Do all the drug you can you say?

>>4597414
you lie to yourself to make your servitude seem like mastery.

good little slave.
You accept a paltry payment for your services, but others make more than you, do less work, and enjoy greater comforts.

Keep up the good work, little slave.

>>4597409
Again, I chose. Were I tired of my treatment, I could leave. That is what makes my boss nothing more than a man. Were he a wolf, and I a sheep, as you so claim, I would have no choice in the matter. Your little 'pets' are not granted a choice, this makes you a wolf and it makes it my duty to see to it that you no longer harm the innocent sheep.

>>4597392
Hey Wolves also have a similar system. They have a leader called the Alpha, and in their society the weakest - the "Sheep" is called the Omega. They work together to acquire resources in order to live and some weaker wolves die - JUST LIKE US!

>>4597406
so without stooping to acts that run the risk of destroying your life(jailtime, overdoses), there is no easy way to be a hedonist just like there is no easy way to follow any other path aside from suicide.

Can you be considered a hedonist for simply sitting back, relaxing and enjoying being alive between the greuling work hours you perform to continue sustaining yourself?

>>4597416
You are very welcome.

>>4597434
How does that make me a slave? It's willing exchange of services. Not forced granting of services. There is no force here, simply an arrangement of convenience and opportunity.

>>4597440
By your logic, by keeping a slave, I'd be forcing a human to do something, when by logic no human can force another human to do anything.
All slaves have the ability to choose death over servitude.
Even if I force a feeding tube down their throat, they can simply refuse to do anything. Each defiance would be a victory, each moment of my wasted time would be sweet to someone who chose that path.

You are a slave because even if you DID quit your job, your master society would strip you of your comforts until you bend to its will again.

It wouldn't be logn before you either stepped back into your role as a slave again.
Hunger is a great motivator.

You have no choice, only an illusion.
Your fabricated choices serve only to keep you content. You tell yourself you can always quit, but you know that you can't. You quit one job and have to find another.

You need to live, after all.

>>4597442
Well... Maybe. I dunno how you would place that. My path is that of excess. I live an unrepentent life of pleasure beyond what most consider acceptable.
But... I'd say enjoying what you have to the fullest, without necessarily seeking out more, is a kind of pleasure of it own.
I wouldn't label it as hedonism. But that doesn't mean it's not. I don't have all the answers, just the ones on living a life in the same path as mine.

>>4597488
>You have no choice, only an illusion.

Hey, that's my line

>>4597488
god fucking damnit.
Every depressing moment in my life boils down to this thought.

>>4597488
Hedonists have to partake in this depressing cycle as well.
They need jobs to live too.

>>4597389
>The wolf can cease to feed to no ill effect.
>The wolf can feed for positive effect - for its own enjoyment and for its own amusement

But once you do that don't you stop being the wolf and become the dog and lose that 'freedom' to follow your instincts.
But I think that is a moot point because there is not such thing as a 'freeman' so to speak.
If you are a wolf you're a slave to your desire.
If dog you be slave to duty and loyalty.
If sheep you be slave to fear and the need to be part of the whole.
The only freedom you do have is to choose which master you will serve.

>>4597554
Not necessarily why do thing most hedonists in history were of the noble birth or very well off.
*cough*parishilton*cough*
Wealth & hedonism go hand in hand

I'm not one for the hedonist lifestyle, I don't like it, but at the same time, the righteous anon that thinks he is going to rule the world is really fucking annoying. He will also never rule the world. Righteous tyrant anon, you post circular logic on 4chan for hours, and work a 9 to 5 (I think), and you're young. You will not rule the world, or hold a position of power that the majority of the human populace would be directly affected by. You lack the drive, intelligence, and charisma. Not trying to be a dick, but thats just what I'm seeing from my (admittedly limited) observations.

Look, the majority of people everywhere, regardless of culture, are basically the same. And from the brutal tyrant to the saint to the serial rapist, all in some convulted fashion believe they are justified in their actions. Most mainstream religions believe in an absolute morality; that at the end of the day, or the end of the world, one group of people are right, and the rest are wrong. Humanity in practice though, uses subjective morality. Our cultures (hedonist, democratic, socialist, anarchic, etc) build a morality, and try to force it on others, either through violence or simply outlasting the competition (in the case of the boring ass pascifists). The game we all play is to make our subjective moralities the absolute morality.

Who is right, who is wrong? We are all organic meatbags, who exist by the most infinitesimal of chances. Imagine all the variables and circumstances and freak chances that have ever come to be in the universe (you can't, by the way, but try), and marvel that the precisely correct combinations and reactions happened to occur on this particular planet, and that life (especially your line) survived and evolved long enough for you to come into this world. That any of us are alive and thinking at all now is in itself a wondrous miracle.

>>4597865

In the greater scheme of things, according to probability, nothing you do will matter in the end. With a universe that will likely exist yet for billions of years, as it already has, chances are humanity will cease to be, and all of us most certainly will cease to be. Even if we survive to the very end, if there is one, all of us today will certainly be forgotten on a long enough timeline. Righteous tyrant anon's contributions to this world will be countered by hedonist anons tearing down, and so on and so forth. After so many eons of time, each of us as an individual is not even worthy of being called a speck. Humanity, likely, will not even be worthy of that name; it sure as hell isn't now, with our one tiny mote of dirt to call our own, in a sea of motes so vast it is beyond our power to imagine.

The truth is, as cliche as it sounds, your life and your purpose are what you make of them. There is no greater meaning (if there is, as thinking beings, you are free to reject it), other than the one you create. Hedonism simply is, the same as righteous anon's morality simply is. On a day to day basis, good and evil is applied by each person's measuring stick, and one cannot exist without the other. On the timeline of the universe, even God's measuring stick (if there is a God, or plural) is likely inconsequential. So do what you will. Hedonists deem that without a greater meaning, they will spend their time doing whatever they please. Righteous tyrant anon deems that without a greater meaning, he will try to give everyone his greater meaning (good fucking luck). What will I do? Unimportant, other than I believe it will be the right thing for my little mote of time.

The purpose of this long ass fucking post? To wish you all luck with your motes of time, and the game of morality, if you wish to play it.

And to say righteous anon is far more fucking annoying than hedonist anon.

>>4597872

Cool fact of the day; humans (without any outside help, i.e. tools) are only capable of comprehending up to about 1000 of anything; after that all we can do is guess, and often poorly. An example would be a crowd of people with one human observer using only his eyes; after the crowd grew over 1000 strong, the observer would begin losing his ability to accurately guess the size of the crowd. You can try it yourself now; you know of a billion, but you dont know what it is. Try to imagine a billion dots, how many do you see? Now try a million, or a trillion. Can you (honestly) notice any difference? All you see are a sea of dots. Think about a perfectly clear night with no light pollution, and you are looking at the stars. How many do you think there are? To those of us who spent childhoods in the countryside, most of us can probably remember thinking there must be millions. In truth, there about 4500-6000 stars visible from Earth. And you can only see about 1500 of them at any given time, granted perfect conditions.

Hows that for a thread derail.

>>4596930
Khorne recruitment team here, HI! we think you'd make a wonderful addition two our rugby team! come on down and lets knock some heads, then we can get drunk and go hedonist hunting!