>What would tropical dwarves look like?
Stout Jamaicans.
Replace ale with rum.

>>4709794
Holy shit, that gave me one of those "thats so obvious how didn't i think of it" moments. That is EXACTLY what tropical dwarves would be like

>>4709794

Imagining Jamaican dwarves is rather amusing.

>>4709794
EH MAHN, JOO BE RAW-KIN UP DEM SHAHFT FOR-TEE TOO? STARONG DEPOS-IT OF SUM DA-MOND!

>>4709821
so they'd sound like warcraft trolls?

>>4709830
The idea for the accent had to come from somewhere, you know.

>>4709830
They'd sound Jamaican, yes.

>>4709830
Since trolls sound Jamaican... You do the math.

sweaty.

seriously. tall and thin is the way to evolve in a hot climate.

dwarves are mush more suited to a colder clmate (eskimo, for example, are shorter and stockier, with proportionally smaller limbs than say, kenyans)

I know one midget, and she invariably complains as any sunny day from may onwards is too hot for her - not enough surface are to cool down from

>>4709868
*surface area.

>>4709769
>Jollyjack
>[not transformation, expansion, or anthro]
wut

>>4709794
Also, dreadlock beards.

>What would tropical dwarves look like?

Maori warriors.

>>4709868
Dwarves have a SHITTON of surface area, most specifically in one location.

Thats right, they use their beards as radiators

>>4709830
That's because Warcraft trolls have jamaican accents.

Jamaican dorfs with dreadlock-beards, smoking short thick pipes full of Rastafarian goodness, quaffin' up rum, and extolling the virtues of a storm-proofed house.

Since mines aren't feasible on small islands (because flooding could be a problem), they're known mostly for amazing wood carving, and pearl diving. The latter involves making a lot of rope, tying it to their ankles, then jumping into the oyster pits, and stuffing the oysters into their beards before climbing back out.

>>4709886
only if they weave their beards with copper wire

>>4709899
although they would still mine on islands with volcanos

>>4709884
So true. Somewhere between a Maroi and a Jamacan. With piratical theme influences.

>dorfs
>islands
>sea
>pirates
>pirate dorfs.

>>4709925
That seems like it would be way more XTREEEEME than the normal ways dwarfs mine.

Dammit, I told myself I wasn't going to do it again, but you've forced me.

I'm starting up Dorf Fortress, Nicknaming all the dorfs things like 'Marley', and making rum and that on an island.

I think thier design and constructions would be like the sunken warcraft elf civilisation, heavy on mayan architecture. Also lots of buildings that would interconnect islands and eventually just make huge island consuming structures to try and terraform the surrounding sea.

>>4709917
they don't need to. dwarven beards are a specialy adapted organ designed for radiating or preserving heats as necessary depending on the environment. this is how they can carve cities of solid ice inside glaciers, yet also thrive in obisidian cities with canals lava flowing through the streets.

>>4709932
That actually works, though. I've done it in Dorf Fortress. The trick is to dig one square away from the lava at all times. And then capping the volcano with tiles so that the fire imps don't invade your home.

>>4709935

Dude you most start a thread and post screencaps with narrarative, it will be awesome. (ask /tg/ for decision making)

>>4709899

I've played Dorf Fotress on a tropical island, thats not really what happens.

The best way I can describe what happens is with two words: Dorf Rapture.

Is a Dorf not entiled to delicious ale?
NO! Says Dorf King, it belongs to me!
NO! Says the Elves, it belongs to the forest!
NO! Says the Kobolds, I will wear it as a hat!

I rejected these answers, I chose another way, I chose: The Rapture!

That's basically how it goes, except with more lava and less glass.

>pirate dorfs
>jamaican dorfs

>jamaican pirate dorfs

>Fantasy Pirates of the Caribbean

>>4709937

"Wot's dat now? Oh, de Temple o' Tropical Evil? Aye, dat's onda northernmost island of the chain, mon. Come, We and I take you dere."

"Do you have a boat large enough to carry all of us?"

"Boat? Why bodda? We an I can walk dere. We didn't build dese bombad bridges for nuthin', yaknow?"

>>4709962

I support this idea

>>4710015
>>4709962
No problem. Suggested loadout?

>>4710045
1 hat, 12 grandfather clocks.

wait, wrong game

I've personally always thought of island halflings basically being pint-sized Tarzan's, living in tree-houses with tiny monkey companions.

Steal Warcraft 3's Sunkun Ruins monsters
advicedog.jpg
getting attacked by sea elementals.

>>4710163
Dark Sun's halflings are already like this.

But they eat you.

So:

Humans: Typical british colonial towns with castles and stuff. Think Port Royal from PoTC. Typical human clothes.
Elves: Typical tropical islanders: Huts, fishing in canoes, very little clothing. Tiki style shit.
Dwarves: Short beardy jamaicans. Either highly ornate wooden houses that would probably be viable ships if turned upside down, or typical dwarven mines on islands with volcanos or mountains

I recently heard that the chimp that played 'Cheetah' in the original B&W Tarzan serial died the day I was born, 30 years ago. Apparently he loved cigars and was banging another trained movie chimp.

>>4710205
The mountainous kind. A dorf without mines is like an elf without the gay.
The entrace is halfway up the mountain with a lot of drainage in the entrance hall so in case of tropical storms they don't get flooded.

>>4710230
i actually meant both. they prefer typical mines, but on islands without any mountains to work with, they build wooden 'houses' that are large and sturdy enough to be mistaken for small mountains

There were jungle-dwelling dwarves in 2e, in Monstrous Compendium Annual, Vol. 2. They wore nothing except their shaggy body hair and when they go to war they cake it in mud so it's like armor.

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>>4710246

You can take the dorf from the mountain, but not the mountain from the dorf.

I like it!

>>4710246

Said 'Houses' are actually seaworthy. If they get washed off the island into the sea in a storm, they float. Being very family-centered people, they typically keep a lot of oars on hand to row the house back to their island afterwards.

What about gnomes now? Are they tiny colonials out to prospect pearls? Or little dark afro-laden witchdoctors who brew strange potions in crude huts?

>>4710293

Any particular reason we can't/shouldn't do both?

rolled 5, 8 = 13

yeah?

>>4710293
well, elves already have the witchdoctors and huts thing covered, although in a much more benign way.

I see gnomes as the well-groomed, wily Spaniards colonizing a nearby area and engaging in trade with the natives.

>>4710319
Are elves also afro-laden?

>>4710045
(suggestor here)
I sadly don't play DF, so you'd have to think that up yourself. I can help you with narrarative though if you need any, can you talk over an IM program?

>>4709899
>Since mines aren't feasible on small islands (because flooding could be a problem)

You have yet to see dorfs mine, then.

Dwarven voodoo magic and their witchdoctors.

>>4710359
Dorf mining is magical, now? Or is it going to be another of /tg/'s IT'S NTO MAGIC ITS JUST DORFS ARENT DORFS AWESOME fapfests?

>>4710293
If humans are like colonial England, let Gnomes be like colonial France. Not in out right war with one another but constantly squabbeling, competing.

>>4710380
They make sure everything entering the mine drains into a chamber they won't use, then use a screw pump to get rid of it all.

It doesn't matter that somebody's gotta pump all day, because they're dwarves and they don't mind.

>>4710380
Even without a volcano to provide floodless rock, given enough wood you can pump the water table out faster than it fills.

>>4710293

the most walthy colonials and owners of the Gnomish Trade Company

Incidentally, in the latest version do you still need to stack screw pumps to move water multiple z-sections? Or can you construct pipes or something and suck it up like a straw?

Won't you need mechanisms for the screw pumps? Last I knew, no rocks means no mechanisms means no screw pumps.

>>4710422
Don't you need stone to make a pump? If all the stone is flooded then you can't make mechanisms.

>>4710125

Do I even want to know what sort of game 12 grandfather clocks would be useful in?

>>4710470
Oregon Trail, of course.

>>4710351

Make the DF playthrough, do it NAO.

>>4709899 Since mines aren't feasible on small islands

Nauru is about as small an island as you'll get inhabited (only 8 square miles) and its economy was built on mining (until the phosphate ran out, now 90% of the population is unemployed).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru

dorfs are dorfs same as ever but instead of helmets they wear big floppy hats and their leather Armour is brightly coloured with Hawaiian prints

>>4710462
Which is why you always start with a healthy supply of bauxite.

>>4710468
No. Screw pumps need a corkscrew, a pipe, and a block. All of which can be made from wood. They transfer power in the same manner that mechanisms do, so if you're in a bind you can use more of them instead.

>>4710462
In real life, all you need for a screw pump is wood.

Though going through the water table as in Dwarf Fortress isn't happening that way either. I was just suggesting it for preventing flooding in caves made of actual rock. (Since islands tend to have quite a bit of rock above the water table, unlike in Dwarf Fortress)

>>4710444
Hem-Hem.

So I'm not finding any islands that don't have an aquifer. c.c I do have one with a single-layer aquifer, so I'm going to start there.

So how do I mine through an aquifer? I'm guessing it has something to do with building a screw pump, and pumping water out of a stairwell?

>>4710552
Depends how far down the aquifer goes, you might find yourself pumping for a looooong time.

There is a bug that might help you but I don't know if it's still in the game anymore, try collapsing a cavern roof over the aquifer tiles. This should remove the aquifer where ever the collapsed material falls.

>>4710552
http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-120-aquifercmv

Mining through an aquifer isn't difficult.

Build a big square hole into it. Put pumps along all of the edges, draining back into channels dug into the aquifer. A wall of suction, essentially. Build real walls where the pumps are pumping from. Enjoy your dry hole through the aquifer.

>>4709927

spiked iron peg-leg FUCK YEAH

If your dorfs do not look like this, you are doing it wrong.

So let's say we've got these bombad rastafarian dorfs. They mine around the volcano, and periodically drain the lava into the ocean to prevent 'OMGTHEFIREGODHATESUS' moments that all but killed off the native humans, and also create more stone to build their intricate bridge system with.

The island halflings are tiny cannibals. Not savages, they're still the happy pipe-smoking guys we know and love, they just happen to figure that meat is meat and so eat friends and enemies alike. They are fond of patterned tattoos, and the warriors among them tend towards bone-piercings.

Gnomes are french colonials, run a major trading company on the backs of humanity, shipping spices, fruit, and other exotic things back to civilization. All the larger islands in the area have a gnomic city, run by a governor-merchant.

Elves live in lean-to's and huts, and never build anything more complicated than that. Deep in the thicker forests, there are elves that havn't seen the ground in years, since there's little reason to leave the treehouse/bridge city they have there. There's a lot of hippy love-ins and so forth.

Humans are humans, trying to make a buck through piracy or trade, or just enjoying the climate, on the run from the complicated life on the mainland.

ahem...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menehune

>> What would tropical dwarves look like?
I'm a big fan of the "Stout Jamaican" look people are suggesting, but I think that the native Hawaiian body type would make more sense for several reasons:

-Rounded shape perfesct for living in dwarf tunnels
-Large fat reserves to hold them over during the long ocean voyages from islandvolcanomountainhome to their new islandvolcanofortress
-Like to party and idle, but can still get shit done when needed

That's not to say we should scrap Jamaican dwarves, because they are still awesome; they're more likely to have originated from continental dwarves, though. Probably they were picked up by human slavers so that they could work their island dimple cup plantations; man, humans are dicks.

>>4710939
He had the voice of an angel, a five hundred pound, diabetic angel.

Rest in peace sweet planetoid. ;__;

>>4710939

Oh Iz... shit, manly tears

>>4710939

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTjOdqSh8D8 ;_;

>>4710939

I think I... I got something in my eye

this thread needs more islander elves

>>4710939
He's found a place in my heart. And displaced all of my organs doing so.

Rastafari dwarves?

Alright, where do I go to archive this for posterity?

Why are fans of medieval fantasy so stuck on these same few stock races that have been around since Tolkien and Gygax? Aren't roleplayers supposed to be the creative type?

>>4711394

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

>>4711394

The last time we got "creative" we adopted a furfag's race, turned kobolds into weeaboo bait, invented some weird shit with two eyes on the same side, and fapped to goblin tits.

>>4711433
Aw, it wasn't all bad. It's just the shit got more time spent on it. Remember the Bivalvi and Chitons? They were cool and interesting.

>>4711394
why are you still stuck on things like "eat food" and "breathe air", that have been around since life began? Aren't humans supposed to be brilliant scientific minds who could find ways around that?

>>4711544
Elves and dwarves aren't universally correct choices. They are fictional. There isn't any concrete requirement (that I've seen) for why they end up in 99% of medieval fantasy settings, but they do. Sure, there are reasons, like how they've been accepted over such a long time that new ideas have to be much better to even be considered, but that doesn't change the fact that your metaphor is stupid.

More hot tanned scantily-clad islander elf bitches please.

>>4711654
>>4711394
Because when you say something is a dwarf or an elf, people get an idea of certain aspects of it. You don't have to explain everything about the race to the rest of the party.

>>4711749
Exactly... the familiar "base" can be easily built upon without much explanation, unlike a purely-from-scratch creation.

>>4711749
So basically, now that we have some races that are flexible in a wide variety of settings, nobody bothers to innovate anymore (except for niche products like Exalted)?

>>4711781
Pretty much.

>>4711781
that's what roleplaying's been from the beginning.

>>4711654
Because every time people try to come up with something new, they try too hard to be different.

Elves are slender humans with pointy ears. Dwarves are short humans with beards. Elves are aloof hippies that like trees and magic. Dwarves are surly craftsmen that like rocks and booze.

Attempts to make new races invariably end up with extra limbs, animal traits, and crazy coloration. Their personality always manages to have some needless duality (savage, but noble). And for whatever reason, the entire race has a single culture, which is lifted wholesale from one on earth (egyptians or japanese, most likely).

>>4711863
Shivans.

>>4711781
It's damn hard to "innovate" something from scratch, and have it done well. Things happen one step at a time.

Your average wholly-original race is invariably a Planet of Hats. Readers/players aren't going to pay attention beyond that. They've got one single characteristic that the entire race shares. Vanilla elf and dwarf are like this. Tolkein really fleshed them the fuck out, but no one other than real lotrfags cared. Elves are tall, advanced and fading, dwarves are short, headstrong and loud.

So. You're making a fantasy race. You CAN do something original, if there's a single concept you want them all to share, or you can adopt elf or dwarf as a template and build on that. One-hat race or something approaching a real culture? God, the choice is terrible.

>>4711913
Tropefag detected.

What about Orcs?
Kobolds?
What happens to, say, Clerics and Paladins in this setting?
I can see uptight colonials wearing plate mail, but not for long in this climate.

>>4711863
Hmmmm.
You could have Moties. They are sort of Humanoid.

>>4711966
clerics wouldn't really change much, they and paladins wouldn't change at all for humans and gnomes.

not sure what elves would have, seeing as in this setting they're so laid back i'd have a hard time thinking they'd have time out from fishing, chillaxing, partying and casual sex to have time to need clerics or paladins. if witchdoctors arent their own class, i'd say elven witchdoctors would be clerics

dwarves would probably be monstly unchanged. possibly different preferred weapons and armor types, but otherwise very simmilar

>>4711966
Is dwarves aren't being based off Maori warriors, then orcs definitely should be.

>>4711875
OMG R U FROM HLP?!?!?

Was the islander elf thread ever archived? I'm really liking the idea - it feels like this is what elves have been missing the whole time.

>>4712151

Warsong Orcs?

>>4711966
>What happens to, say, Clerics and Paladins in this setting?
The dwarves favor the volcano god. The god won't stop the volcano's eruptions, but he will make sure valuable gems in the lava flow will cluster around the settlements of his most devout followers. Other dwarves worship a very similar sea god.

The halfling cannibals are involved with the god of blood, but as adversaries rather than worshipers. They believe the blood god draws strength from every corpse they let him have, and some day will rise up to kill them all. So, rather than burying their dead, they eat them to keep them away from the blood god. They realize that other races bury their dead, so they try to kill their neighbors and eat them before that happens.

The humans and gnomes are from pantheistic societies and worship a variety of gods, but given their trades the most common are the gods of trade and conquest.

The elves worship the forest spirits rather than a single god, but the forest spirits themselves worship a shepherd god of their own. Witchdoctors (clerics) and their holy warriors (paladins) worship the shepherd god directly, deriving their power from helping the forest spirits through their lives.

>>4712435
>The elves worship the forest spirits rather than a single god, but the forest spirits themselves worship a shepherd god of their own. Witchdoctors (clerics) and their holy warriors (paladins) worship the shepherd god directly, deriving their power from helping the forest spirits through their lives.

thats the elves living inland though. the elves on the coasts of the islands would worshing the sea spirits as much, if not more than the forest spirits due to their primary source of food being fishing

>>4712483
Fair enough. Can we keep the same shepherd god for all the spirits on the island, and just have the elves worship whatever spirits are closest to them?

That is, the non-holy elves worship the sea spirits or forest spirits (or wherever else on the island they are at the moment), but their spiritual leaders all worship the same higher god.

>>4712524
that works.

one thing i've been juggling around in the back of my mind for a while is the elves using clothing as a mark of nobility, so the leader or whatever of a tribe has dyed, decorated, elaborate clothing, while the lowest peasant (or equivalent in that society) have very little (if anything at all). This would of course change between tribes. For example, the elf in the op pic would be fairly poor, but her family at least has high enough rank to allow them that outfit.

it would make sense with the general idea that elves in this setting seem to have one single commandment in their religion, and that is "be happy" (ok, maybe two, the second being "protect nature" to fit in with them being elves, but you get my point)

>>4712435
I really like the idea of paladins dedicated to stopping their god from doing something. Good one.

>>4710482
>>Nauru is a phosphate rock island, and its primary economic activity since 1907 has been the export of phosphate mined from the island. For this reason, Nauru boasted the highest per-capita income in the world. But when the phosphate reserves were exhausted, and the environment had been severely degraded by mining, the trust established to manage the island's wealth significantly reduced in value. To obtain income, the government resorted to unusual measures. In the 1990s, Nauru briefly became a tax haven and money laundering centre. Since 2001, it has accepted aid from the Australian government, and in exchange housed, until early 2008, an offshore detention centre that held and processed asylum seekers trying to enter Australia.

Wow, this is hilarious!

>>4712828
Also:
>>Nauruans are among the most obese people in the world; 90% of adults have a higher BMI than the world average. Nauru has the world's highest level of type 2 diabetes, with more than 40% of the population affected.

The fun just never stops down there, does it?

>>4712614
hedonistic elves? not sure if want...

island dwarves are Jamaican Maoris with Samoan influences

they drink Red Stripe, because it is beer. Hooray beer.

>>4713013
An island full of hedonistic, tall, skinny, tanned elf bitches in little to no clothing?

>>4713013
not really. its more like they're generally much happier than the other races because they dont seem to have concepts in their culture of 'personal property' (outside of the house you live in, that is. clothes are merely for denoting rank or for protection while working/fighting, tools and weapons belong to everyone, and they dont tend to own anything else), 'adultery' (sex is still something to keep private, but its just an enjoyable past-time. they don't get why other races make such a fuss about it being with a certain person), 'modesty' (again, clothes are merely for social status or protection, its too damn hot otherwise), or 'war' (the sea and trees provide more than enough food, gold is just some shiny, so why would they bother picking fights?)

>>4713067
whoops, hit submit accidentally

religion to islander elves is basically just another excuse for a party, and having higher rank means having to wear hotter, heavier clothes all day and having to perform religious ceremonies on special occasions, so elves generally want to avoid positions of power than claim them.

in fact, thanks to being so attuned to nature, islander elves generally catch more fish and find more fruit than they need when they go out fishing/gathering, so they often have several days in a row where the entire tribe has nothing to do but relax.

so hedonists, no. uncorrupt, socially-different, happy people with too much free time, yes

>>4710939
This is my next bard. ;_;

>>4713122
I am all for this shit.

>>4713067
>>4713122

a setting where elves aren't pretentious uptight assholes?

FUCKING FUND IT

How can this thread not have mentioned obsidian yet?

Tropical dwarves work with obsidian, and possibly all other forms of volcanic rock as well.

We need more drawfagging and shit.

The terror of the seas is the occasional pack of weresharks that show up from time to time to harass the local fishermen, though it's not as bad as it used to be since the tropical elves formed an alliance with the dolphins.

>>4713286
we got sidetracked by the best elves ever.

yeah, obsidian is going to be one of the most common materials that dorfs work with. they'd probably build the inter-island bridges out of pumice, as it floats

>>4713325
motherfucking MERFOLK

fishing is the closest to war islander elves are going to get without leaving the islands or being corrupted by other races, thanks to those fishy fuckers.

although skirmishes between elven fishers and merfolk patrols have an up-side, as the winners generally eat the losers

>>4713369

>>4713382
Fish oral. Yuck.

>>4713382
I'd like to see a skinny elf bitch fight a chubby merbitch.

(And watch the victor 'eat' their conquest.)

>>4713480
>I'd like to watch a skinny elf bitch "fight" a chubby merbitch.

IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

>>4713382
Wait, how do mermaids get glasses? Recycling coke bottles?

>>4713551
She wasn't always a mermaid. Nanorobots. Or something.

Lettuce always annoyed the fuck out of me for being a hot, really rather intelligent, pretty reliable girl with some fucking awesome powers that she NEVER USED BECAUSE THEY TURNED HER INTO A LIBBY AFTER HER FIRST FUCKING EPISODE.

>>4713551

Trading with the dorfs.

Dorfs and Merfolk get along fine.

>>4713562
...what?

>>4713572
what.

merfolk are rabid territorial psychopaths that eat anything that comes near them and isn't poisonous. they tend to avoid dwarves though, because the typical dwarven response to merfolk incursions is to dump magma into the ocean, boiling them to death

>>4713593

what setting are you talking about?

I was refering to a homebrew that I just made up where merfolk look like the pic and they chill with dorfs.

>>4713551
Apparently.

>>4713593
>drown them in lava
The universal solution for all dwarf problems

>>4713642
It is actually hard to drown in lava, since it's kind of hard to run out of air before burning to death.

Why should dwarves be in tropical beaches, anyway? There's plenty of mountains at the equator. Tropical mountains are fun, you go from mangrove to glaciers and there's the fucked up mountain jungle.

So, I would suggest incan dwarves, but the jammin one are too awesome, damn.

Also! What about dragonborns? I know you can get even them awesome. /tg/.

>>4713683
because the setting is about tropical islands?

>>4713683

Use the Jund Viashino Design?

Add breath weapons?

>>4713657
If you do manage to survive the burning for any length of time then you will be crushed by the sheer density of the lava as well.

It's still fucking rocks.

>>4713689

I assumed this >>What would tropical dwarves look like?
asked about general tropical elves.

Also, this is gonna be my ranger.

I'd just like to put in my two cents about the OP topic.

> "What would tropical Dorfs look like?"

Picture a retired military man, now heading into his late sixties, early seventies. He's not skinny or gangly, oh no; he's somewhat short and pudgy due to his retirement funds and pension plan, having enough food to eat and coming from an age where smoking a pipe and eating lots of food was encouraged. A man from a time long gone, who holds himself in high esteem and loves to have a good time.

Now, picture this. He has retired to Hawaii, and he's loving every minute of it. He's become completely absorbed in Hawaiin trends, fitting in with the locals perfectly. Tanned, and the sun giving his skin the nutrients it needs to stop from sagging all over the place, he's actually quite healthy from frequent walks on through town and working around his small house on the shore, fixing it up to living conditions with nothing but a hammer, some nails, and a lot of palm trees to chop down with a simple axe.

Now, picture him with a long beard.

That's what I think a tropical Dwarf would be like.

ok so if I can sum up this thread

dwarfs: Jamaicans, or Hawaiians, maybe Incans
gnomes: French settlers, Voddo Doctors?
humans: english settlers and pirates
eleves: native island dwellers
halflings: Tiny Cannibals
Mermaids: Mermaids

my two cents

tiki warforged

>>4713657
Millenia of dorfen experience makes it possible to drown their enemies in lava.

>>4713796
>tiki warforged
Very yes.

...

>>4713844
"We surgically implanted platinum lungs into you, and now we'll fill them with lava. We'll then use the resulting lung-shaped igneous rock for an antismoking advert. God, I love working for the NHS."

>>4713968
Rob Reiner?

>>4713967
i would go with the regular mermaid.

there are still blowjobs to be had.

>>4713990

Yeah, better to stick with the classics.

>>4713967
How long am I stuck there? If it's more than ten years, I'm gonna take the reverse mermaid. Presumably our daughters will be less fishy, and more fuckable.

>>4714122
but not less ugly i bet.

>>4714122
you'd fuck your own daughters?

you sick bastard.

Classic mermaid, ten times out of ten.
Sometimes you just want to talk, you know?

>>4714221
He must be Australian.

>>4714040
Also, boobs.

>>4714234
Seconded.

Something tells me that half-elves would be rather prominent in such a setting.

Over the centuries, a dwarf clan followed the birth of volcanoes. As each new island erupted from the sea floor, formed, and then cooled, the dwarfs mined out the empty lava tunnels and formed a network of passages beneath the shallow seas.

the dwarfs get along well with island-dwelling elves. The elves bring harvests of fruit and fish, and the dwarfs supply them with obsidian and the occasional metal tool.

gnomes and humans, however, are rarely welcomed. Their greed is plain to see, and the dwarfs guard their islands carefully. It is difficult to explain the concepts of conflict to the local elves, so the dwarfs take it upon themselves to protect them as well. They are somewhat naive, but their honesty and trustworthiness is somewhat endearing.

>>4714557
And then the Spaniards come.

>>4714576

Eh, that actually seems like a good idea. A third power whose mere presence keeps the humans and gnomes from dipping into full-scale war as they both are too preoccupied with the greater enemy to have an go at eachother.

>>4714576
>>4714498
These two posts end up closely tied together. Brown island elves would like some penis, yes.

Orcish conquistadors.

>>4714652

Well then, here's a question: do we need an equivalent of the Dutch, if we're going for the complete Carribean feel?

>>4714652
Oh my god. Orcs are Spanish.
That makes Half-Orcs Mexican.

>>4714666

It wouldn't be dragonborn - it would be lizardmen, descended from the komod-dragon sized lizards that were the first real inhabitants of the island. They typically leave the other humanoids alone, content to bask in the sun, eat seaweed and mermaids, and dive for shells, pearls, and commune with the goddess of wave and the god of beach.

Somewhat like lazy surfers who prefer to tan than to surf.

>>4714685

Lizurfmen?

>>4714666

Mind.
Blown.

Just a simple question, which tropical islands is this thread basing their stuff on, the Carribean or the Hawaiian islands?

>>4714665
Halflings.

>>4714665
Of course.
The Dutch get into everything.

>>4714748
Both

>>4714710
You'd have to do away with the "Ghazhkull Crushbleedpain" style names, but honestly "Maximilllian Cortez Desoto" is just as fucking scary as "Ogrym Doomhammer" once you do some research.

>>4714757
Kender?

Tiefling Dutch?

>>4714666

Holy shit

Hernando Orktez. Don't fuck with him.

>>4714777

Actually, my first thought was goblins, mainly based on the fact that the country was formed after a long and brutal revolution against the Spanish.

Who are now orcs.

>>4714666

My vote is for Orcs with REGULAR spanish names. No fucking Z's instead of S' or D's instead of Th's.

>>4714818
"Dis lot-a goblins is muckin' about, choppin' each otherz' heartz out 'n wastin' good WAAAAGHIN' time! Who's dere leader, dis Moktazuma squig-gob?"

>>4714830
If they're orcs, fine. Don't try that with orkz though.

Why is it that the second someone says Orc, the 40k crowd shows up? The spanish weren't dumb as brick ax-murderers, this doesn't fit. If what we know about them is true, they were probably the most advanced people of the time period. Toledo had swords that made those Japanese toothpicks look like shitscrapers.

>>4714861

Calm down, they're just having some fun.

Perhaps Lizardmen would be better Spaniards?

Excellent sailors and great fishing industry?

Not to mention Spain is LIZARDSFUCKINGEVERYWHERE country.

>>4714861
it turns out all the iron in japan was shitty iron, not good for making steel from. so swords were really hard to make, so only some people could have them, so japan was doomed to fail whenever it fought the west because the west isn't hobbled by the way of the warrior bullshit.

Is there a third, more war-like group of island dwellers in this setting? The Elves and the Dwarves seem pretty tame and co-operative, but a group based off the Caribs would be interesting.

>>4714861

A compromise, then?

Orcs, the imperialistic, educated green-skinned conquerors AS WELL AS Orkz: psychotic, blood-thirsty murdermachine pirates a'la the Barbary Coast.

>>4714870
Dissent in the ranks? In my /tg/?

>>4714861
Don't think of them as 40k orks, that's just /tg/ talking. Nor as tolkienesque orcs. We're talking D&D orcs here, and probably not the CE type if they've got an actual society.

>>4714887
Lizardmen once had a grand empire on the islands, but now there is nothing left but ruins. The remaining lizardfolk have devolved to have even worse technology than the elves. They just hang around the old ruins, running off anyone who would plunder them, but otherwise not being much of a threat or influence in the area

>>4714900
we can get our bloodthirsty murdermachines from somewhere else i think.

>>4714887

The Romans where lizardmen.

Italians and Spaniards are the remnants of this old empire?

Just dishing out ideas, I personally like the spanish Orcs idea better. Spaniards in holy wars of epic proportions against the Moors really fits the Orcs. Stubbornly they fight the outsiders, refusing to give up their culture and independence.

>>4714922

Eh, fair enough.

More of a sugar-high thought anyhow.

>>4714931
>The Romans where lizardmen.

>Italians and Spaniards are the remnants of this old empire?

nope. geez, why does everything have to be an analogy to a real world civilisation?

there werent every any romans in the carribean or hawaii anyway

I like the Orcs as Spaniards idea, but... what about Hobgoblins?

>>4714947

Like I said, just putting ideas on the table.

>>4714922
merfolk seem to qualify for that role already, what with them killing and eating elves and anyone else foolish enough to head out too far from land in a small boat (or just unlucky enough to be nearby when they stumble out onto land)

>>4714956
WOW. HELLO. Warlike, Imperialistic, Lawful as Hell? This could work.

>>4714975
That's actually interesting, Hobgoblins as Conquistadors, bringing "Order" to a "savage" land.

>>4714975

Portuguese?

>>4713734
I am having a hard time imagining any more win than this.

>>4714975
that fits Rome closer to me. Spain isn't that lawful, and hobgoblin legionaries is a sweet idea.

>>4714986
Could be either. As they say, this is more about roles than culture-analogies. The "New Guys" coming in with their cannons and their warships to screw around with people having a perfectly good time on their islands with obsidian tools is certainly not tied to any one European nation, they could very easily be a combination of all of the imperialistic Europeans.

i think we can safely say this thread's over. its come up with a shitton of awesome ideas, it's near autosage, but now its been derailed into 'what fantasy race is like what real world civilisation'

Speaking of which, who're the French?

Is this thread archived?

>>4714956

The Portugese?

A major colonial playerr in other parts of the world, but one that doesn't actually have any claims to the region. They have embassies in the largest ports of each race and sometimes smuggle in arms and equipment to make profit off the constant squabbles and conflicts among the local powers. The other nations let this pass as the Hobbish embassies usually attract mercenaries and privateers from the Hobgoblin homeland who are more than happy to do their dirty work for a fair buck.

I.

Would play.

THE FUCK

Out of this game.

*listens expectantly with huge grin*

Good night, sweet thread, and /tg/. You're much smarter than the other people here.

Especially /fa/.

>>4715042
yes, and i want to kick whoever archived it in the balls.

seriously, the only tag is 'Dorf'. really fucking helpful there, dumbass

Thank you for making this thread possible, /tg/. I feel proud to have been a part of it. But either way, I think we have a great basis for a setting here, and while fa/tg/uys will often find themselves in a hubbub over trying to squeeze every single fantasy staple into such settings, I feel what we have here so far is well in all enough for the purpose of this thread.

Dwarves — Jamaican-esque volcano miners. Still very dwarfy.
Elves — Brown toned, Hawaiian-esque happy-go-lucky and laid-back islanders.
Humans — Colonial English and pirate analogs.
Gnomes — Colonial French analogs. Big on trade.
Halflings — Rational, pint-sized cannibals. Enough said.
Merfolk — Manic, territorial ocean dwellers. Often at ends with both elves and dwarves. Feel threatened by almost everyone.
Orcs — Spanish conquistadors. Yes, this is awesome. Half-orcs = Mexicans; mind = blown.
Lizardmen — Ineffectual lazy surfer analogs that love to sunbathe. Komodo dragon like in appearance.

Tiki warforged and Dutch goblins are also other worthy mentions.

If my tablet was working I would drawfag the fuck outta this. Fucking Vista.

>Orcs — Spanish conquistadors. Yes, this is awesome. Half-orcs = Mexicans; mind = blown.

moar like mind= BROWN amirite?

>>4715254
serves you well for abandoning you perfectly functional XP before vista had been fully ironed out.

>>4715301
Didn't have a choice, brah. PC came like that :(

>>4715441
Man, sucks to be you.

Get in on the Win7 beta if you can. It's a lot more workable, and still runs.

Well fuck it, I DO have a tablet, what do you want to see first, /tg/?
Working on a Jamaican style dorf atm, suggestions for what next? And keep it SFW.

>>4715997
island elves spear fishing off a beach

Any suggestions for trappings and clothing? Weapons? I'm drawing him with a flintlock pistol and hatchet, anyone think of something more appropriate?

>>4716211
striped trousers, open off-white shirt, dreadlocks, fishing hook-as-earring, skkoke, rastafari cap