trim your moldlines

Starting Warhammer 40k and already finished assembling 3 Hellhounds, 2 Demolishers, 1 Lemen Russ and 2 Chimeras as well as around 60-70 Guardsmen.

I'm having a problem deciding what my army should go for. I want to make plasma cannons on everything and just deck out all my Lemen Russes with Lascannons/Plasmacannons. Unfortunatly, I have no additional plasma cannon sponsons and am forced to greenstuff the melta sponsons in the Demolisher Kit to turn to Plasma Cannons. I don't have any more Melta sponsons and only have HB sponsons.

tl;dr. Is there a way to make Plasma Cannon Sponsons other than greenstuffing a melta sponson to an appropriate shape?

>>5071204
Devastators, or GSing HB sponsons

>>5071148
What legs are those?

>>5071249
Empire Flagellants

What kinds of heads fit with the cadian pattern body?

You should make a metric shit ton of Terrorguard infantry.

As for a question, uh...

- Is it worth trying to enlist /tg/ for some WFB homebrewing?
- How's the burn?
- Is this the real life or is this just fantasy?

Ohi Scripty, tis ApacheValk guy from last time.

>>5071204
About the Plasma sponsons, Scripty has it right. I'll post some pictures of what they look like cut down on the sponsons, along with the Valkpache WIP once dinner is eaten. And who knows, I might just dig the semi-decent camera out. Dun dun dunnnn.

>>5071292
http://www.pig-iron-productions.com/

These guys do pretty good heads, most if not all go well on the Cadian infantry.

>>5071148

thin your paints!!

>>5071301
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality

http://www.ramshacklegames.co.uk/

These guys make good heads too, if you want to do some Tallarn or Praetorian conversions.

>>5071334
Even no paints aren't thin enough for /tg/.

>>5071292
Almost any, including the pigiron ones and similar
>>5071301
Terrorguard is quite a hassle to make and I never figured out good heads for them
/tg/ WFB threads tend to be pretty good, try it
Burn is healing up nicely
Caught in a landslide no escape etc
>>5071303
Sup apacheman, waiting on those pics
>>5071334
The comissar hat is OOOOLD and thus poorly painted

DKK WITH PZF

DKK TANK COMMANDER

>>5071400

OH SHI is Chink back?

Can I please see your horrible cultist-chan model?

Here's how it looks so far, is still very much a work in progress.
Also, about 3 seconds after that picture was taken, it fell off the flying stand it was precariously balanced on and the tail broke off. Again.

>>5071407
>>5071400
THE Chink? My lord!
>>5071461
but it's horrible...
>>5071463
Lookin' good

Here's some pics of how the Devastator Plasma cannons look on a Russ

>>5071491 >>5071441
YES! FINALLY

>>5071491
I think we need to see it just so it can be cast out of our minds. You know how curiousity works

Also, have some tank-on-dog while i'm dumping my camera pics onto the craptop.

>>5071519
Oh goddamnit man those are awesome
Also welcome back sir.
>>5071520
I don't have a photo of it anywhere

How many Valkyries do you have, if you're planning to make Stormies out of the gunners?

So related to the topic, my plans were

-Iceworld theme
-Shadow Grey/Codex Grey scheme
-Fur hats all around

Creed (to Scout either Hellhounds or Demolishers)
DH Inq Lord (for sniping down Deepstrikers)

???
???
???

Platoon
Platoon
Platoon
???
???
???

Vendetta(s)
Hellhound(variants)
Valks/Hellhound Variants

Lemans
Demo Lemans
Artillery / Hellstrike / Hydra / Manticore / Lemans

>>5071647
Gonna get 3-6, depending on my final list

If you're using Valks as transport, you'll probably one at least one set of Vets/Stormies for the BS4 and 3 Special Weapons combo.

Arty wise, you could always get a Basilisk style Chimera chassis and make the bits for each one (Hydra/Medusa/Manticore would be good choices, depending on who you're facing). That way, you have a HS choice for every occasion, Hydra for swatting down transports, Medusa for a long range Demolisher gun, and Manticore for STR 10 PIE PLATES EVERYWHERE.

Point of note about the Manticore- It's Barrage, so it can fire direct with no minimum range, it's only when you fire indirect that you have to use the 24" minimum range.

>>5071765
I'll probably go with the Stormies since I'm making 'em
IS there a real DOWNSIDE to the Medusa? All I keep seeing is EXPLOSIONS EVERYWHERE with no reason to NOT take one

>>5071805
And by Medusa I mean Manticore

>>5071301
Hurr! Our heads are the biggest!

Hey Scripty.

What about different models for standard purposes? I, for one, use Leman Russ tanks built backwards, with heavy modifications to accomodate a Basilisk's platform and cannon instead of the front and turret assembly.

>>5071844
That sounds like a really sweet idea!

>>5071813
You only get 4 shots with the thing. And they're 'only' AP4, so Mehreens still get their saves.

Even so, you're still chucking out more pie plates per game (with a reasonable amount of luck) than any another tank, only the Executioner can compare, and that's 230 points once you bung the sponsons on to make it truely ASSRAPE-TACULAR.

>>5071854
AH yes the 4 shots thing
but weren't Executioner shots just Blast, not large blast?

>>5071906
Yep, but still... you have a chance of hitting SOMETHING even if the shot is horribly off mark. I've seen a game where a 9 inch scatter killed an entire group of termies. Ork accuracy...

>>5071906
Yes, but you can spew out 5 of the things if you keep the Executioner still, and they're all scattered individually, which may be a blessing or a curse depending on your luck with the scatter die.

BTW are Pask and Bastonne worth taking?
>>5071937
>>5071956
So which should I take, a unit of Executioners or a Manticore?
I still trust Demolishers + Creed are a stronger choise over those 2 so I won't swap them out

>>5071982
The only thing i'd take Pask with is a Vanquisher with Lascannon, just you know that the thing you're shooting at will die horribly.

Haven't had that much experience with Bastonne, he could be useful if you use a squad of Vets outside of Creed's considerable Order radius, if only for 'Fire on my Target-'ing an enemy squad with a bunch of Plasma Guns.

>>5071982
>>5072028
Forgot the latter half of your post. I'd probably take a Manticore, it gives your army that indirect approach that it doesn't have otherwise, and the Demolishers will do the job of the Executioners, so there isn't much need to take more short range rapecannons.

>>5072047
So if I take 2 (or 3) Demolishers to CREEEED ahead for early ordance rape, 3 Lemans for anti-MEQ and general backup, a Manticore for even MORE ordance rape and 3 Vendettas for anti-tank, what else will I need?

>>5071982
Take bastonne as a stormtrooper sargent.

then FRFSRF with the hellguns...er... "hot-shot Lasguns"

if the storm troopers operate away from the other guys that give orders, bastonne can add some more punch to your boys.

>>5071463

looking good mate!

whats the plans for it now?

>>5072093
Got the Codex on me, he can only be taken as a Vet Squad's Sergeant unfortunately.

What you could do however is put a Platoon Command Squad and Stormie squad in two Valks in the same squadron, then when they disembark, get the PCS to boss the Stormies around with First Rank Fire!

>>5072088
Looks pretty solid, the one thing i'm using is Rough Riders to act as a counter-charge unit against choppy units that make it to the squishy troops.

15 S5, I5 Power Weapon attacks on a 19-24" charge would make just about anything crap themselves.

>>5072162
I thought about Grey Knight Terminators or an Eversor myself.
I doubt anyone expects Terminators in an IG army

On a sidenote - currently converting some plastic Techpriests

>>5072293
I haven't got anything of Daemonhunters, so both of those are out for the time being. Maybe after i've painted/converted/greenstuffed everything, and the inevitable IG Errata from GW comes out.

>>5072293
Yes, plastic.

But from what are you planning to build them?

Company Command Squad --- 270
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Kell - 85
Master of Ordance - 30
Autocannon - 10
Vox Caster - 5

Inquisitor Lord --- 200
Inquisitor Lord - 40
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
3x Acolyte - 24
-combi-plasmaguns - 45pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts

Vendettas --- 420
3x Vendettas - 390
- Heavy Bolter sponsons - 30

Leman Russes --- 540
3 Leman Russes - 450
-Heavy Bolter sponsons - 60
-Pintle Mounted Heavy Stubbers - 30

Leman Russ Demolishers --- 330
2 Demolishers - 330

Manticore --- 170
-Hunter Killer Missile - 10

>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1930
This won't work help me fix it please

>>5072383
I see your Ravenwing bike and raise you half-completed IG Rough Riders. Making the legs for the riders is going to be funnnnn.

>>5072383
Dark Angel veterans + IG bits

>>5072431
What's the point limit for you? I'd take out the standard Russes, put Creed in a pimpin' Chimera, and go from there.

>>5072431
not giving your inquisitor any armour??!?

>>5072436
I haven't seen imperial 'choppers' in ages. There used to be a tutorial to make them. Good times.

Ever seen Paul Sawyer's White Scars? They were brilliant.

>>5072445
1500 / 2000
If I can get a list for both, all the better

>>5072459
Inqlords have Power Armour as standard

Company Command Squad --- 270
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Kell - 85
Master of Ordance - 30
Autocannon - 10
Vox Caster - 5

Inquisitor Lord --- 200
Inquisitor Lord - 40
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
3x Acolyte - 24
-combi-plasmaguns - 45pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts

Infantry Platoon --- --- 270
Command squad --- 60
Vox - 5
Autocannon - 10
Standard - 15
Guardsmen --- 65
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5
Guardsmen --- 65
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5
Heavy Weapon squad --- 75
3 autocannons - 15

Infantry Platoon --- --- 270
Command squad --- 60
Vox - 5
Autocannon - 10
Standard - 15
Guardsmen --- 65
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5
Guardsmen --- 65
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5
Heavy Weapon squad --- 75
3 autocannons - 15

Vendettas --- 420
3x Vendettas - 390
- Heavy Bolter sponsons - 30

Leman Russ Demolishers --- 330
2 Demolishers - 330

Manticore --- 170
-Hunter Killer Missile - 10

>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1930

Ok now it has no Lemans and 2 troops
Still needs fixing
please halp

>>5072463
http://www.siegecraft.us/roughrider.htm
There ye go, instead of the front wheel they use I just took mud guards off the front wheel and replaced with sprue/milliput.
>>5072464
I'll see what I can do, gimme a few minutes.

Also, Valkpache's tail is now solidly attached (I hope), just trying to find some more ways to make it look more 40k-ish.

>>5071400
is that another panzerfaust head in his hand?. if it is then you should know that panzerfausts were one-shot weapons that was thrown away after they had been fired.

>>5072576
PIN YOUR THAINTS

Otherwise, pretty good.

>>5072576
please see
>>5072564
for an updated list

Also you might want to give it horizontal fins and some rivets

Company Command Squad --- 325
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Kell - 85
Master of Ordance - 30
Autocannon - 10
Vox Caster - 5
Chimera- 55
Turret ML, Hull HB

Inquisitor Lord --- 200
Inquisitor Lord - 40
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
3x Acolyte - 24
-combi-plasmaguns - 45pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts


Infantry Platoon --- --- 175
Command squad --- 60
Vox - 5
Autocannon - 10
Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5
Guardsmen --- 65
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5

Veteran Squad --- --- 115
3 Plasma Guns - 45

Vendettas --- 390
3x Vendettas - 390

Leman Russ Demolishers --- 330
2 Demolishers - 330

Manticore --- 160
Heavy Flamer

>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1305

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Just the core army, am gonna be busy for a bit so someone else can have a go and filling the rest out.

>>5072611
That's not me thankfully, though they are kind of a waste after spending that much on converting em to give them a shocking paint job.

>>5072620
The horizontal fins on the tail are what i'm doing now, individual rivets might be a tad beyond me at this point.

>>5072655
A gantleman and a saint my good sir, that's what you are.
Perhaps it should have Techpriests as there are rather many vehicles?

>>5072695
Easy rivets 101 - take any plastic stick, cocktail stick or similar of a small enough diameter, cut into small slicer, glue on.
It worked for some dude on WD, should work here as well

>>5072695
Oh, I realise it's not you.

And I agree, mighty shame.

Someone (See, Scriptarius) should make some.

>>5072741
I'd probably use those 5 spare Pistollier horses I have for my rough riders

>>5072727
there any tricks for applying such small amounts of glue? Because I can very easily see a gloppy mess forming.

>>5072760
Could do, yes. While you're at it, bring in your Outrider Imps.

>>5072774
Either
1 - poke small dots of glue by gently squeezing the glue tube then poking it on the model
2 - make a thin line of glue along the line you want to put the rivets on then stick the rivets on
3 - squueze a blob of glue out of the tube and using tweezers dip each rivet in the blob

>>5072727
And here I left my godknows how many cocktail sticks back at University.
>>5072702
Oh, I do my best. Lets knock it up to 1500, shall we?

Company Command Squad --- 325
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Kell - 85
Master of Ordnance - 30
Autocannon - 10
Vox Caster - 5
Chimera- 55
Turret ML, Hull HB

Inquisitor Lord --- 200
Inquisitor Lord - 40
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
3x Acolyte - 24
-combi-plasmaguns - 45pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts

Techpriest Enginseer Squad- 90
Techpriest - 45
Servo Arm Servitors x 3 - 45

Infantry Platoon --- --- 175
Command squad --- 60
Vox - 5
Autocannon - 10
Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5
Guardsmen --- 65
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5

Veteran Squad --- --- 115
3 Plasma Guns - 45

Veteran Squad --- --- 85
3 Grenade Launchers- 15

Vendettas --- 390
3x Vendettas - 390

Leman Russ Demolishers --- 330
2 Demolishers - 330

Manticore --- 160
Heavy Flamer

>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1480

>>5072823
Thank ya kindly. The third is my usual method, but now that I've got a surplus of old, ruined brushes I might broaden my horizons.

>>5072833
Me again, bung 2 Vox casters in the Vet squads and it'll make it 1490, bung a HK missile on any vehicle you choose (Possibly Creed's pimpmobile) to make it a nice round 1500.

>>5072833
>>5072868
Cheers
I just peep wondering if Creed's pimprider is worth more than it's value in Heavy Weapon Teams / Servitors / Techpriests

What should I add to go to 2k?

Me yet again, lets have a look at a 2000 point, well rounded list.

Company Command Squad --- 325
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Kell - 85
Master of Ordnance - 30
Autocannon - 10
Vox Caster - 5
Chimera- 65
Turret ML, Hull HB
Hunter Killer Missile - 10

Inquisitor Lord --- 200
Inquisitor Lord - 40
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
3x Acolyte - 24
-combi-plasmaguns - 45pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts

Techpriest Enginseer Squad- 90
Techpriest - 45
Servo Arm Servitors x 3 - 45

Infantry Platoon --- --- 175
Command squad --- 60
Vox - 5
Autocannon - 10
Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5
Guardsmen --- 65
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5

Veteran Squad --- --- 175
Sgt. Bastonne - 60
3 Plasma Guns - 45
Vox - 5

Veteran Squad --- --- 85
3 Grenade Launchers- 15
Vox - 5

Vendetta Gunship Squadron --- 390
3x Vendettas - 390

Valkyrie Assault Carrier Squadron --- 390
3x Valkyrie w/Rocket Pods - 390

Leman Russ Demolishers --- 330
2 Demolishers - 330

Manticore --- 160
Heavy Flamer

>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1950

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The 50 spare points can go wherever.

>>5072946
It gives you a AV 12/10/10 bunker that Creed can give orders from any part of, and it's got 2 heavy weapons on it, along with the Autocannon and MoO that can fire out the top hatch. In my opinion, it be worth it, but i'm not the be-all and end-all, decision wise.

>>5072966
Hmm... Valks rather than a unit of vanilla Russes for anti-infantry?
Also I wonder if Missile Launchers would be better than Autocannons? I is there such a thing as too many templates?

>>5072998
Me again, you can always take off a Valkyrie and get yourself another Techpriest w/ 3 servitors, which means you can fix Weapon Destroyed/Immobilized on a 2+ if I remember (5+ fix without servitors, 3 of them takes it down to 2+)

>>5073010
It depends what you would rather want, Valkyries that can carry dudes around but are less effective in Anti-infantry, or Russes that are built like brick shithouses and have a Str 9 template.

>>5071148

Yeah I was looking at those Valkyrie door gunner helmets for regular guardsmen too. I was contemplating using SM Scout torsos though. I do have a green stuff modded master for an alternative torso I plan on casting at some point too.

Definitely considering casting a bunch of the Valk heads if the concept turns out nice.

I have a valkyrie in the works too, of course. I hate the way the two engines on top of the fuselage goes together. I'm probably going to have to paint some putty over the top section to smooth it out and then do some sanding and possible filing.

>>5071375

What kind of heads were you thinking of to use with Terror Guard?

>>5073067
Oh god, I hated putting the engines together on mine, it took 3 bloody attempts for it to go together right.

Also, namefagging for the sake of it from now on, i'm bored like that.

>>5073067
Well given how the Terrorguard are ment to be sort of like Zombie Krieg/Cadia, either something 100%faceless or really fucked up.
>>5073045
>>5073066
I'm more of a tank man and carrying infantry around is for Tau and Eldar (small suicide squads are always ok though)
Lemans it is

>>5073109
Well, seeing as somewhere along the line was a miscalculation in points, it now looks like this.

Company Command Squad --- 325
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Kell - 85
Master of Ordnance - 30
Autocannon - 10
Vox Caster - 5
Chimera- 65
Turret ML, Hull HB
Hunter Killer Missile - 10

Inquisitor Lord --- 200
Inquisitor Lord - 40
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
3x Acolyte - 24
-combi-plasmaguns - 45pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts

Techpriest Enginseer Squad- 90
Techpriest - 45
Servo Arm Servitors x 3 - 45


Infantry Platoon --- --- 175
Command squad --- 60
Vox - 5
Autocannon - 10
Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5
Guardsmen --- 65
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5

Veteran Squad --- --- 175
Sgt. Bastonne - 60
3 Plasma Guns - 45
Vox - 5

Veteran Squad --- --- 85
3 Grenade Launchers- 15
Vox - 5

Vendetta Gunship Squadron --- 390
3x Vendettas - 390


Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron --- 360
2 Demolishers w/Lascannon - 360

Manticore --- 160
Heavy Flamer

>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1960

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Am still trying to figure out where something was missed out in points calculating.

Ah, looking at my calculations, forgot to add in the cost for Vendettas for the base one, which screwed over the others. Tis what you get when you don't sleep.

Company Command Squad --- 325
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Kell - 85
Master of Ordnance - 30
Autocannon - 10
Vox Caster - 5
Chimera- 65
Turret ML, Hull HB

Inquisitor Lord --- 200
Inquisitor Lord - 40
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
3x Acolyte - 24
-combi-plasmaguns - 45pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts

Techpriest Enginseer Squad- 75
Techpriest - 45
Servo Arm Servitors x 2 - 30


Infantry Platoon --- --- 175
Command squad --- 60
Vox - 5
Autocannon - 10
Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5
Guardsmen --- 65
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5

Veteran Squad --- --- 115
3 Plasma Guns - 45
Vox - 5


Vendetta Gunship Squadron --- 260
2x Vendettas - 260


Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron --- 360
2 Demolishers w/Lascannon - 360

Manticore --- 160
Heavy Flamer

>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1500

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Oh, how I feel like an idiot. Should be right now.

>>5073348
Ah, the Chimera's points should be 55 not 65, but that's right overall.

>>5073348
Bah I'm too tired to do my math right
Can someone confirm it's right?

Me, yet-a-fucking-gain.

Company Command Squad --- 325
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Kell - 85
Master of Ordnance - 30
Autocannon - 10
Vox Caster - 5
Chimera- 55
Turret ML, Hull HB

Inquisitor Lord --- 200
Inquisitor Lord - 40
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
3x Acolyte - 24
-combi-plasmaguns - 45pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts

Techpriest Enginseer Squad- 75
Techpriest - 45
Servo Arm Servitors x 2 - 30


Infantry Platoon --- --- 195
Command squad --- 55
Vox - 5
Autocannon - 10
Grenade Launcher- 5

Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5

Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5


Veteran Squad --- --- 85
3 Grenade Launchers
Vox - 5


Vendetta Gunship Squadron --- 260
2x Vendettas - 260


Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron --- 360
2 Demolishers w/Lascannon - 360

Manticore --- 160
Heavy Flamer

>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1500
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Now it's right, unless something in the DH bit happens to be wrong.

>>5073109

There are some pretty good zombie heads out there you can use. I snagged a bunch from a "weirdwar 2" type line. The line with the nazi chimps in it. They had gas mask heads too, which I got a bunch of Brit style ones just sort of laying around.

>>5073103

Yeah, I think for my next valyrie build, I'll be using a large/long flat file. Test fitting was a pain in the ass and I don't know why GW didn't do some kind of notching or pegging if they were going to have the engines done like that.

Posting it in the thread this time. Yay custom rough riders!

>>5073380
It's 65 if you take the pintle mounted weapon, I know I usually do.

>>5072088
Guardsmen to hold objectives.

>>5073489
That's 1660 pts not 1500

The only thing I'm worried about in the currend build is the minimal Troops
I keep hearing "MASS DEM TROOPS OR INSTA LOSE" so havking only minimum troops seems risky

>>5073529
Yep, forgot the Manticore this time. I'm just not having a good day.

On the plus side, the tail wings for the Valkpache are on.

Company Command Squad --- 270
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Kell - 85
Master of Ordnance - 30
Autocannon - 10
Vox Caster - 5

Inquisitor Lord --- 200
Inquisitor Lord - 40
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
3x Acolyte - 24
-combi-plasmaguns - 45pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts


Infantry Platoon --- --- 195
Command squad --- 55
Vox - 5
Autocannon - 10
Grenade Launcher- 5

Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5

Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5


Veteran Squad --- --- 85
3 Grenade Launchers
Vox - 5


Vendetta Gunship Squadron --- 260
2x Vendettas - 260


Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron --- 300
2 Demolishers w/Heavy Bolter - 300

Manticore --- 160
Heavy Flamer

>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1500

ohpleaseletthisberight.

>>5073589
I think it really might need another Infantry platoon

Also you should do a victory dance for being closer to completing your Valk than I am mine

It's 1470, bung the Lascannons back on the Demo's for a round 1500.

...I'm getting more Pepsi

>>5073612
1470

>>5073619
Now i've got that figured out at last, sorting that out shouldn't be too much of a problem. Also, could someone with a DH codex check the Inquisitor bit, i've come too far for that to be wrong too.

Scripty, i hate SM terminator heads, any suggestions on ways to mod them? or other model heads that might work in place of them?

>>5073655

Make them helmet-less

>>5073649
Wouldn't swapping out the Grenade Launchers on the Vets for Plasma Guns add the missing 30 pts?
>>5073655
Give them normal helmetless heads or cut the front parts off the helmets to make GK Terminator style knight helmets

Back, with glorious amounts of caffiene
>>5073691
Indeed it would, thought i'm having a ponder about where to take the points from to get another Infantry Platoon out of it.

Any advice for someone interested in starting up IG?
I've been really fond of IG because they're, quite frankly, my favorite; the only reason I didn't start with them to begin with was because I heard that the new codex was coming.

That said, I think I'm going to (eventually) end up with several thousand points of them.

But where to begin? For the beginning, I was thinking of maybe, three battleforces, for a trio of sentinels, two platoon CSs, a company CS, and 60 troops. (Plus a bunch of heavy weapons.) Is this a good idea? Are there better options?

Incidentally, I can't afford Tallarn/DKoK, but are there any other regiments than Cad/Cat for less-completely-ridiculous-prices?

>>5073743
The only things that CAN still go are the Vets and some of the Inquisitor's stuff, mainly the acolytes

>>5073767

If you can greenstuff pith helmets well enough, you could attempt Praetorians.

Also, you need WAVES OF MEN. You can never have enough troop choices, since it makes an easy way to vary your army from 500 to 2k+.

>>5073767
With GS you can turn Cadians into Steel Legion easily

>>5073796

Fuck Steel Legion! Praetorians are so imperialistically dapper, they shit tea and biscuits!

>>5073819
Well true
>I'd never field 'em though. Just a bit TOO dapper for a 40k field in my eyes

>Now If I just had my camera this post would contain a pic of me in my pith helmet and monocle

Got rid of Kell, he can be put back in at the expense of the Acolytes with the points spare.

Company Command Squad --- 185
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Master of Ordnance - 30
Autocannon - 10
Vox Caster - 5

Inquisitor Lord --- 200
Inquisitor Lord - 40
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
3x Acolyte - 24
-combi-plasmaguns - 45pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts


Infantry Platoon --- --- 195
Command squad --- 55
Vox - 5
Autocannon - 10
Grenade Launcher- 5

Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5

Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Autocannon - 10
vox - 5

Infantry Platoon --- --- 200
Command Squad --- 50
Vox - 5
3x Grenade Launchers - 15

Guardsmen- 75
Grenade Launcher- 5
Missile Launcher- 15

Guardsmen- 75
Grenade Launcher- 5
Missile Launcher- 15

Veteran Squad --- --- 85
3 Plasma Guns - 45
Vox - 5


Vendetta Gunship Squadron --- 260
2x Vendettas - 260


Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron --- 300
2 Demolishers w/Heavy Bolter - 300


>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1425

>>5073796

Besides, DKoK and ASL are based off of WW1 French and WW2 Germany, respectively. And what did they do? Die in droves and end up losing the next war in a blindingly fast time for the first, and the other getting in way over its head and engulfed by MOTHER RUSSIA and INDUSTRIAL MIGHT AND WEALTH, MOTHERFUCKER!

While the Praetorians, they are based upon the British, valiant men campaigning around the globe for King and Country, heroic officers and brave soldiers defending the empire and keeping civilization safe.

You can see the obvious choice to pick, there. The Praetorians, if you are blind.

>>5073853

It's alright. I'm an Ork fellow myself, but those hats are just really sexy on standard infantry. Mordian Iron Guard are great as well. It takes balls of steel to march out against the forces of Chaos in dress uniforms.

A shining symbol of hope, glory, and valor against the tides of darkness.

Remember folk, infantry in transports can still capture objectives. And while the fluff may say it's lasgun ports firing, the rules say that 5 people can fire out of the top hatch with their own weapons. combine with fully-loaded command squads for best effect. The chimera is also amphibious but that isn't really as important.

>>5073861
Ze Manticore is gone! Mein gott!

>>5073896

>amphibious

This just sounds like a great excuse for an island hopping campaign across multiple tables!

>>5073896
>five from the hatch

So how come I'm called out on it not being open-topped EVERY TIME I TRY IT?

>>5073896
Hence why I was trying to shoehorn Creed and Co into a Chimera. Am downloading the DH codex now to have a look at the Inquisitor bit, he might be a good candidate to be bunged in a Chimera in turn 1 with the rest of his friends.

>>5073861
>>5073936
Withthe loss of the Manticore, how many points would be left if we swapped out all Autocannons for Missile Launchers?

>>5073936

Creed definitely needs a Chimera. He's the Patton (or British equivalent) of 40k! ARMOR RUSH LOL FLANK GG and etc.

>>5073932
because your friends are either whiny bitches, unfamiliar with the new codex, or both. It says all 5 from the hatch, and no mention of open-topped.

BY the way I keep heawing you people referring to Creed and outflanking
Doesn't Creed give Scouts which only becomes Outflanking if the unit is in reserves?
>Only flipped throught he rulebook a little, last game was back in 3rd ed

>>5073985
Yes. So if you want outflanking you just keep said tactical genius'd unit in reserves

>>5073985

Yes. But that means SUDDENLY, TANKS! or an entire armored platoon in out of nowhere.

>>5073963
;_; I showed them that! They were like:

THAT'S ONLY FOR LINE OF SITE AND MEASURING DISTANCES LOLOLOL

>>5074025
Still nothing about being open-topped. Grow some balls or get out of the Guard boy, it's a new edition and a new codex.

>>5074062

So I can fire 5 lascannons from the somewhat safety of a chimera, so long as it doesn't move?

Some people here seem to be knowledgable about guard, so I may as well ask- do Creed and Kell have to be taken together, or can you just take one?

>>5073947
If you converted them all to ML's, that's 20 points. Also, I looked through the DH codex and corrected a few points. Here's the updated list.

Company Command Squad --- 240
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Master of Ordnance - 30
Autocannon - 10
Vox Caster - 5
Chimera - 55

Inquisitor Lord --- 196
Inquisitor Lord - 45
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts


Infantry Platoon --- --- 210
Command squad --- 55
Vox - 5
Missile Launcher - 15
Grenade Launcher- 5

Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Missile Launcher - 15
vox - 5

Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Missile Launcher - 15
vox - 5

Infantry Platoon --- --- 200
Command Squad --- 50
Vox - 5
3x Grenade Launchers - 15

Guardsmen- 75
Grenade Launcher- 5
Missile Launcher- 15

Guardsmen- 75
Grenade Launcher- 5
Missile Launcher- 15

Veteran Squad --- --- 85
3 Plasma Guns - 45
Vox - 5


Vendetta Gunship Squadron --- 260
2x Vendettas - 260


Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron --- 300
2 Demolishers w/Heavy Bolter - 300


>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1491

>>5074089
Yes, assuming you can fit all that in there, probably easier with the new Heavy Weapon Team business.

>>5074090
you can take them seperately

>>5074090

No. But it is fluffy to do so.

>>5074090
You can just take one or the other, as i've done in the above list.

>>5074104
Transport capacity: 12 models

Being the sport I am, I'd say that's six two-man teams.

>>5074104

Awesome. I think he'll make a pretty good mordian commander, what with his ORDERS ORDERS ORDERS.

>>5074121
Correct, We just checked and it specifically mentions that they still count as two units for transport purposes.

Now we're getting there!
for 2k would it be more viable to take 3 vanilla Russes +50pts of something, or the Manticore and 2 russes + 40pts of something?

>>5074121
Or...2 6 man Heavy Weapons Squads.

Shame you can't put more than one unit in a transport.

Or can you?

>>5074166
Manticore, 2 russes, 40pts to sponson guns

>>5074177
No, only one unit and as many independent characters as you want. And the combined squads rule doesn't apply to heavy weapon squads, so oh well.

Sorry, I keep pasting lists from before I double check.
Company Command Squad --- 240
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Master of Ordnance - 30
Autocannon - 10
Vox Caster - 5
Chimera - 55

Inquisitor Lord --- 196
Inquisitor Lord - 45
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts


Infantry Platoon --- --- 210
Command squad --- 55
Vox - 5
Missile Launcher - 15
Grenade Launcher- 5

Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Missile Launcher - 15
vox - 5

Guardsmen --- 70
Grenade Launcher - 5
Missile Launcher - 15
vox - 5

Infantry Platoon --- --- 200
Command Squad --- 50
Vox - 5
3x Grenade Launchers - 15

Guardsmen- 75
Grenade Launcher- 5
Missile Launcher- 15
Vox- 5

Guardsmen- 75
Grenade Launcher- 5
Missile Launcher- 15
Vox- 5

Veteran Squad --- --- 115
2 GL, 1 Plasma - 25
Vox - 5


Vendetta Gunship Squadron --- 260
2x Vendettas - 260

Leman Russ Squadron- 300
2x Leman Russ

Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron --- 330
2 Demolishers w/Heavy Bolter - 330

Manticore- 160
Heavy Flamer

>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1986

>>5074256
This is looking good
btw the Company command still has an Autocannon

>>5074311
Ah, i'll do him in the next update, it saves lengthening the page that much more. Anything you want changing while i'm at it?

>>5074350
If you can somehow hammer the plasmas back on the Vets in 1500 it'd be great
2000 could use some sponson guns on the Lemans or the Techpriest back

>>5071148
Personally, I'd prefer to include meltas or a Pasquisher for those annoying A14 vehicles, but that's mostly because I don't use vendettas. Still, those six TL Lascannons should be able to score a penetrating hit or two, but then you're only shooting one vehicle at a time if you keep them in a squad.

What would be a better choice- two heavy weapon squads with 3 lascannons, two medusas or two bane wolves with multimeltas (to be outflanked with creed)?

>>5074394
However keeping them in a squad keeps the veteran payload safe as you can have the empty one drop 1st

Those vets should have Meltas.

>>5074422
Bane freaking Wolves

Here's the 1500 list, complete with shiny plasma.

Company Command Squad --- 190
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Master of Ordnance
Missile Launcher- 15
Vox Caster - 5

Inquisitor Lord --- 196
Inquisitor Lord - 45
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts


Infantry Platoon --- --- 205
Command squad --- 55
Vox - 5
Missile Launcher - 15
Grenade Launcher- 5

Guardsmen --- 75
Grenade Launcher - 5
Missile Launcher - 15
vox - 5

Guardsmen --- 75
Grenade Launcher - 5
Missile Launcher - 15
vox - 5

Infantry Platoon --- --- 200
Command Squad --- 50
Vox - 5
3x Grenade Launchers - 15

Guardsmen- 75
Grenade Launcher- 5
Missile Launcher- 15
Vox- 5

Guardsmen- 75
Grenade Launcher- 5
Missile Launcher- 15
Vox- 5

Veteran Squad --- --- 115
3 Plasma
Vox - 5


Vendetta Gunship Squadron --- 260
2x Vendettas - 260


Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron --- 330
2 Demolishers w/Heavy Bolter - 330


>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1496

>>5074422

Wait shit I'm an idiot, I only have 210 points to spend not 300. I doubt one bane wolf would do any good...

Company Command Squad --- 190
Squad - 50
Creed - 90
Master of Ordnance
Missile Launcher- 15
Vox Caster - 5

Inquisitor Lord --- 196
Inquisitor Lord - 45
-Psycannon - 30pts
3x Warriors - 30
-HBolter, HBolter, Plasma Cannon - 65pts
2x Sage - 20pts
Mystic - 6pts

Techpriest Enginseer- 90
Techpriest- 45
3x Servo Servitor- 45

Infantry Platoon --- --- 205
Command squad --- 55
Vox - 5
Missile Launcher - 15
Grenade Launcher- 5

Guardsmen --- 75
Grenade Launcher - 5
Missile Launcher - 15
vox - 5

Guardsmen --- 75
Grenade Launcher - 5
Missile Launcher - 15
vox - 5

Infantry Platoon --- --- 200
Command Squad --- 50
Vox - 5
3x Grenade Launchers - 15

Guardsmen- 75
Grenade Launcher- 5
Missile Launcher- 15
Vox- 5

Guardsmen- 75
Grenade Launcher- 5
Missile Launcher- 15
Vox- 5

Veteran Squad --- --- 115
3 Plasma
Vox - 5

Vendetta Gunship Squadron --- 260
2x Vendettas - 260

Leman Russ Battle Tank Squadron- 340
2x Leman Russ w/HB Sponsons

Leman Russ Demolisher Squadron --- 330
2 Demolishers w/Heavy Bolter - 330

Manticore- 170
Hk Missile- 10
Heavy Flamer

>CURRENT SUBTOTAL - 1996

Fuck you 'too many lines'.

Also, have a Valkpache update.

>>5073655

>>5074521
>>5074515
>>5074458
If we ever meet, I'll buy you a drink my good man
Thnaks for all the help with the list, to you and to everyone in here.
Now I know what to build

>>5074497

No-one has any suggestions on this?

>>5074577
Tear points away from somewhere and take 2 Banewolves.
Those things are made of crystalised rape up close

since this is a conversionfag thread?

Does anyone know of a good/cheaper alternative to green stuff I can use for making the bulk for a scratch built thing and/or filling the gaps of bigger scratch built thing

Pic is an example of the gap

>>5074532
Not a problem, mine apologies for being pants-on-head-retarded when it came to the earlier list-building.

I'd say i'd come on over to Finland, but on a students budget, that could be a while. Either way, here's me MSN, and yet another Valky picture. Off for more caffiene. Yay.

>>5074608
I've heard good things about hot glue and clay

>>5074608
I'd say just get some paper or something, but you could also use Milliput (Google it), it's pretty much the same as greenstuff, but cheaper for a crapload more of it.

>>5074598

Hm, I'd be able to afford it if I went down to 5 infantry squads. Or dropped a whole load of missile launchers.

On a semi-related note, does anyone know how hard it woulkd be to remove the head of a forge world DKoK commisar?

>>5074677
Hard but not impossible

Hey Scriptarius. Awesome threads, man.

I have a question for you. I bought a bunch of Black Reach Orks from a guy on eBay a while back, and he pretty much mutilated one of the Warbosses. Though I could probably still run him as a warboss, I don't run warbosses. Would there be any way to convert this guy into a Warphead? If so, what would I need, short of a bunch of green stuff?

That thing on the left is what's left of his backpack. The thing on the right is the bosspole he clipped off.

>>5074729
mother fuck that image came out shitty what a crappy camera.

>>5074729
Make some kind of staff for him and sculpt on a bunch of robes
Should do the trick well enough

>>5074784
Yeah, that'll do it. Thanks man!

Gonna go hit the sack, thanks for another good thread lads and good night

stop spamming http://www.AnomTalk.com/ (Anom = Anon) gpfmlmydpdjvdg m ddjs gcmngj

>>5074729

If you want to convert the model listen to >>5074784

If you just want a Wierdboy, use a nob since
Big Meks and Wierdboyz are just very special nobs and a bit too small to be represented by a warboss