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    160 KB Parasite Quest Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)07:40 No.5450273  
    You are a first-generation parasite. A disease. A mutagenic aberration that, by some impossible mixture of accident and fate, has become self-aware. Your understanding has expanded well beyond the concept of "self", stretching into the realms of biology. The DNA of creatures is an open book to you, one which you can tear and knit back together freely. Your only limitations are physics and accumulated biomatter.

    You have infested a small creature, a tiny street rodent. Your accumulated biomass is little, your small frame weak and vulnerable. You could, perhaps, grow a new appendage or some minor ability with your current biology. But the damage to your host would be great.

    You must feed and mutate. A whole world stretches out before you.

    You are currently in a back alley, lit by a sole drum of ignited petrol. A number of vagrants are huddled around it, using newspapers- a poor source of biomass- to contain their warmth. The street outside looks dangerous to enter into with so many potentially hostile organisms.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)07:42 No.5450282
    Wow, this is only the 5th thread of its kind. Die in a fire, or take it to /tg/chan. Better yet, do both, maybe the fire will spread
    >> Nekose !5mhYQxOp7Y 08/14/09(Fri)07:42 No.5450283
    Check inventory
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)07:42 No.5450284
    Look's like Queens from Dead Rising.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)07:42 No.5450288
    There are buildings to either side of you, their unending size positively incomprehensible to the tiny computing power of your pea-sized brain. It currently begs for a piece of cheese, but only your mighty parasitic powers keep it from going mad with awareness. As such, a piece of deliciously energy-rich cheese would likely be necessary.

    Energy is required to survive through mutations, when you enter hibernation for expansion.

    As such, you are left alone in the trash-laden alley, to your own nefarious- or beneficial- devices. Yet you only have a single driving urge at this current moment: To consume, evolve, and spread.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)07:43 No.5450294
    Asspained much?
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)07:44 No.5450303
    You are a small, fuzzy mouse with potential for a world-class epidemic. You have cute fuzzy paws and a set of adorable teeth, as well as a small amount of fur to insulate against the outside cold.
    >> Nekose !5mhYQxOp7Y 08/14/09(Fri)07:45 No.5450313
    consume inventory, convert to biomass
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)07:46 No.5450317
    Do I have any fleas or ticks? If I do, I do want to infect them first.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)07:48 No.5450328
    Such an action will render you into an amorphous blob of genetic material, and likely cause you to perish by exposure to the open world unless a new form of equal mass is immediately established.

    Other confirmation requested before action is enacted.
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)07:48 No.5450332
    >look garbage
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)07:50 No.5450341
    All fleas, tics, worms, and other parasitic life forms have been consumed for your initial reserve of biomass. You can, by expending some energy, reform that reserve into a small number of tics and fleas. Their effectiveness in overcoming the natural defenses of anything larger than yourself in a reasonable amount of time is questionable.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)07:53 No.5450366
    Will I eventually start calling myself Alex Mercer?
    >> Nekose !5mhYQxOp7Y 08/14/09(Fri)07:54 No.5450369
    Expend biomass reserves to create glands in your mouth capable of transferring parasites through biting.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)07:55 No.5450378

    Insects are probably the most efficient creatures in the world. I wish to regrow some of the ticks to drain blood from those vagrants. With modified extra large blood sacs if possible.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)07:55 No.5450379
    You scurry over to a garbage can, submerging yourself into the trash there. You discover half of a cheeseburger, some cold fries, and various table scraps. The cheese appeases your primal host's mind. It will be much more willing to undergo metamorphosis now.

    You have gained additional biomass! You now can create up to two kilograms in personal modifications! Be they a complete metamorphosis, or simply some minor odds and ends to your glorious form!
    >> Bizzarohlol 08/14/09(Fri)07:55 No.5450380
    Consume organic elements of trash first! CONSUME ORGANIC ELEMENTS OF TRASH FIRST!
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)07:56 No.5450384
    Attempt to make some bacteriophages or some kind of virus/viroid to spread to infect and alter the DNA of other organisms
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)07:57 No.5450393
    Make modifications to produce additional pheromones. Ones that attract fellow rats and insects of all kinds.

    Then, infect them.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)07:57 No.5450394
    >Parasite. Rat. Able to alter mutate host.

    Well, then, there's only one answer:
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)07:57 No.5450396
    >upgrade mouse

    This is our first body, and should be made into our flagship, as it were.

    >improve muscles
    >improve brain
    >improve senses
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)07:58 No.5450402
    Wait for vagrants to sleep then deposit said ticks in their ears where they will begin draining bloody directly from around the brain.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)08:00 No.5450415
    Such a self-designation is highly amusing to the Metamind. You are free to do so.

    Though the exact science of it is a bit difficult, your expanded biomass reserves give you the energy to produce such glands. Your bite now unleashes a (slightly weakened) version of your current profile into whomever you bite! Large mammals are likely resistant to this dangerous tool, but quite a few smaller creatures will fear your presence!

    Using about half of what's left of your biomass, you produce several such tics. They quickly await orders, clinging onto your host body like mindless drones. You can control them through basic pheromones at this point, but they only can go a few feet beyond your current host before going rogue. They also have the expanded blood sacs modified into them.

    You now have one kilogram of biomass left in reserve.
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)08:00 No.5450416
    Create some glands for holding/deploying/generating ticks and reabsorbing blood from them.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:01 No.5450424
    Do this?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:02 No.5450435
    >>5450369 <-- This Nao!

    or is thread dead?

    After that crawlinto a sleeping hobo's mouth and down his throat... subject should die from Asphixyation rather quickly, bite several times while lodged in his throat....

    If that works, CONSUME!

    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:04 No.5450446
    Develop vocal cords. Learn human speech. Become a productive member of society.
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)08:05 No.5450457

    At the very least, talking is going to stop humans killing us.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)08:06 No.5450458
    You are THE pinnacle of pathogens. Your current method of being spread is through directly overpowering the host's immune system. Unfortunately, you will require additional biomass before more complex (and effective) methods of establishing a host can be reached.

    Using the last of your biomass reserves, you enhance your current glands to produce a more complex pheromone. As it stands, you have yet to attract any fellow rodents. Given time, however, you will no doubt find more.

    Even if the previous parasite-mind had not used the last of the biomass, each upgrade alone- assuming that the intention is to double the current capabilities in each field- would require two kilograms of biomass apiece.

    Your earlier meal has given you some strength, but you will still become dangerously close to starvation (due to your glorious form consuming more energy than a lone rodent) if you should wait until the vagrants slumber. Confirmation requested before time skip.

    The tics can already resupply you with blood. They do this simply by being physically imbibed.
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)08:08 No.5450476
    Consume the vagrant's hair for biomass first, due to lack of biological defences. Also consume any nearby organic products (cotton clothing, for example).
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)08:09 No.5450479
    Your tiny lungs are not quite developed for supplying complex human speech. If you should find that vocal cords are necessary regardless, you will need additional biomass: One kilogram at minimum. Even then, you will only be able to produce six syllables at a lungful.

    Basic understanding of local language is also required. You are knowledgeable in genetics, linguistics is another field entirely.

    (Apologies for any delays, attempting to address everybody)
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:10 No.5450485
    Wait for vagrants to sleep.
    Put tics with upgraded bloodsacs in ears.
    Let them drain blood from around the brain.

    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:11 No.5450492
    if any other mice or small creatures show up during this time.

    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:17 No.5450512
    We should work on infecting something bigger, like the president of kenya?
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)08:17 No.5450513
    As the consensus seems to be to wait until the vagrants fall asleep, timeskip will be enacted.

    Several hours pass in waiting, the tics steadily crawling up and down one of the vagrants and collecting hair follicles piece-by-piece to pass the time. Some discarded newspapers are also consumed for their ancient, decaying biomass. Four kilograms in total are gathered by nightfall.

    Your tics rush into the ear of the human, careful to absorb blood as stealthily as possible. Their backsides bloated with over an ounce of the human's biological matter, they quickly return for consumption. The information contained within is fragmented and incomplete, but you know that the "humans" gathered here are indeed fully infection-capable, though their bodies possess powerful defenses against a parasite like yourself.

    You gain two kilograms of biomass from the vagrant's blood.

    Such an action, though quick to kill the man, would likely still result in him causing alarm in the process of asphyxiating: Flailing about, kicking, reaching down, so forth. There is also the fact that consuming so much biomass would require a large sum of time. Control might be established, but there are several obvious risk-factors to such a plan. Confirmation requested before enacting such a plan.
    >> Nekose !5mhYQxOp7Y 08/14/09(Fri)08:19 No.5450523
    leave tics to collect blood, inspect the exit of the alley leading to the street.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:20 No.5450525
    Brains cannot feel pain, eat them.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)08:20 No.5450528
    One rodent shows up during the interval of waiting. You quickly tear open its throat, consuming it for two kilograms of biomass. The primal mind you control revolts at such an action, but is easily pacified at the delicious meal that follows.

    You suspect that catching such a speedy bastard would require the speed of a person from KENYA. A super-powerful trait you have yet to acquire.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:20 No.5450531
    Look for spiders.
    Eat spiders.
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)08:21 No.5450532

    The plan seems too risky. I think we need to do some more research first, and develop a better method of infection.

    Now that we've got some biomass, can we develop ourselves some better senses?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:23 No.5450538
    I suggest we increase muscle mass and size of our rodent body. Reinforce it's structure, so to speak. Not to an unreal degree, but enough to seem an imposing rodent menace.
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)08:23 No.5450539
    Also, can we spend biomass on researching infection methods?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:24 No.5450542
    Vocal-cord-fag here: I propose we try not to go Tyranid and attempt to form a cult around us instead.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:24 No.5450543
    We could work on making more of us, hopefully they can be controlled by us like a hive mind.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:25 No.5450546
    Look for spiders around entrances to buildings.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)08:26 No.5450550
    Current biomass count: 8 kilograms
    Current energy reserves: Near-full

    The big world outside is still bustling with fatality-inducing persons, as well as a number of large machines that will no doubt instantly slay you should you dare be caught beneath them. Emerging from the alley at this point is not advised.

    This method, though not nearly as time-consuming or likely to produce a violent reaction, will still leave a corpse for the other vagrants whenever they awaken. Confirmation from at least one other mental entity requested.

    You find several making webs high above you, but as-of-yet do not possess the knowledge of quite how to scale walls. Were you so inclined, you could attempt to try and scramble towards them, but the likelihood of catching one of the entrenched creatures is small. The rewards, the secret of their webmaking and biomass, are tempting.
    >> Dragonwater !XC1U.alr.Y 08/14/09(Fri)08:28 No.5450559

    Use biomass to make a brain for the parasite to increase intelligence. Or upgrade whatever equivalent it has, haven't read all details.
    >> Nekose !5mhYQxOp7Y 08/14/09(Fri)08:29 No.5450561

    How much biomass would be required to transform into a medium size dog?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:30 No.5450567
    Dogs can get caught and be sent to the pund, then put asleep. I recommend staying a mouse, or something incredibly insignificant in stature. And so long as we consume bio-mass, we can survive easily.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)08:30 No.5450569
    Personal modification is only natural. Provided you specify what sort of modification to perception or infection method you intend, the biomass necessary can be expended accordingly.

    Producing additional rodent-hosts would require two kilograms of mass each, as well as a small expenditure of energy to create a near-starving "secondary host".

    You can find a single spider hovering a scant few centimeters over the alley near the alley door from the building to your left. It is currently consuming an insect for its own biomass-related needs. Reaching it should not prove too difficult, provided you can get a reasonable head-start on the lunge.
    >> Nekose !5mhYQxOp7Y 08/14/09(Fri)08:31 No.5450571
    however a dog is capable of storing MUCH more biomass.
    >> Othermind 08/14/09(Fri)08:31 No.5450575
    i believe we would need to eat a dog first.

    Attempt the spider-eating.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:32 No.5450578
    Quantity, in this case, will be our friend.

    Multitasking with an intelligent hivemind is our best bet.
    >> Dragonwater !XC1U.alr.Y 08/14/09(Fri)08:33 No.5450580

    I think we should start using the biomass to increase learning capabilities. Knowledge is power.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)08:34 No.5450591
    Expending two kilograms of biomass, you create a flurry of new neural pathways in your host's brain. With a bit more thinking room, the rodent gains basic skills like literacy comprehension and infancy-grade vocal skills. With the vagrant's DNA, such skills are fully unlocked. You can now perform skills equivalent to a "First Grader" (A human designation for some sort of learning level). Two plus two equals four!

    A small dog (chihuahua) would require about ten kilograms of biomass. A medium-sized dog (retriever) would require about forty. A large dog (Saint Bernard) would require upwards of sixty. All of which would start out Near-Starving, and any additional biomass spent going towards energy reserves.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:35 No.5450597
    Infect the spider.
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)08:35 No.5450602

    Create extra rodent, convert 1kg of biomass to energy for both. Use extra body to double-team the spider. Infecting the brains also seems like a good plan, if we can bypass the blood-brain barrier. Spend another biomass-kg on infection techniques.
    >> Othermind 08/14/09(Fri)08:35 No.5450603
    I concur, but first if we can consume the spider we will have the potential to evolve the ability to walk up walls.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:35 No.5450605
    Kill the dog for biomass.
    Use biomass to learn how to spread airborne parasites with hive-mind connectivity.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:36 No.5450607
    Are we able to utilize other infectious beings, rabies for example will be fatal to someone without medical treatment, and can be utilized to kill a target so you may find them and consume them later.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:37 No.5450615
    Infecting this things are all nice and good, however we need a method that ensures a full blown infection in a reasonable amount of time.

    We either go for a water borne parasite and infect the town's water supply. Or go for a large quantity of small hosts that are very survivable.

    Imagine 300, except we are the bad guys, and we are cockroaches.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)08:37 No.5450618
    You build up your internal momentum, catapulting yourself at the spider! You miss the creature itself, unfortunately, but your claws deploy in time for you to yank down its web! Killing the creature with your venomous bite, you consume half a kilogram of biomass. The secret of its high-strength and sticky webs become yours! Should you be so inclined, rodent-equivalent webs can be produced with a basic internal modification to your oral/rectal glands for the small sum of two kilograms.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:38 No.5450623
    All these guys are thinking in the wrong direction, the mammalian reign is ending. Now.

    Search the direct area for any floral-based organics, consume them.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:39 No.5450628
    This thread is offencive to people who are educated.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:39 No.5450633
    Create web glands in the mouth, attempt to net a flying creature (even a small insect)
    Learn to fly!
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)08:40 No.5450634
    Consume some nearby grasses. Use their POLLEN technique to create an airborne infection agent.
    >> Dragonwater !XC1U.alr.Y 08/14/09(Fri)08:40 No.5450638

    Is it actually even possible to do that, considering the parasite seems completely made to infect animal species?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:41 No.5450643
    It's a stretch admittedly but it's the road to power should it work.

    Our roots will cover the land...
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:42 No.5450648
    You don't see what's wrong with a web-shooting, flying rodent?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:42 No.5450650
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:42 No.5450652


    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)08:43 No.5450654

    Can we develop a hivemind now?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:43 No.5450659
    Infect Local Bakery. Consume 40 cakes. Convert to bio-mass.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)08:43 No.5450660
    Total Biomass: 5kg
    Average Energy: Average

    With a few minutes, you quickly produce a cocoon of biomass. A rodent emerges a few seconds later, looking like an exact replica of your own host. It is utterly submissive to you, but has inferior thinking capacity and a lack of tic-servants. Hopefully you will not need much need for an emergency body.

    There is no dog in the alley, which really says something about how crummy it is.

    You may indeed give your bite a more fatal quality, if you were so inclined. Venom glands capable of producing rabies-equivalent effects would require a kilogram of biomass. Anything more dangerous would require more biomass, with specifics of venom stated.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:44 No.5450663
    That's just terrible.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:44 No.5450665
    Get to madagascar as soon as parasitically possible.
    >> Brother Theurd 08/14/09(Fri)08:46 No.5450679
    Could I suggest that we make our parasite passing venom glands able to launch the venom? Thus allowing us to squirt it into eyes to increase the chance of infection?
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)08:47 No.5450683

    Upgrade both self and other body to sense and induce electromagnetic signals, for better communication.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:48 No.5450685
    Adapt the tics to automatically feed the mice off of spare biomass gathered.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:50 No.5450700
    Somewhere along the line we should develop develop large pockets of hydrogen gas, turning us into a ratblimp.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:51 No.5450709
    "Dear Diary,
    They wouldn't listen to me again today, I tried pleading my case to them but they just don't care. Can't they see the beauty of my plans, don't they understand what power we could wield if they would just be more willing to step out of their "Warm-blood" comfort zone? Plants ruled the world long before us and they will do so yet again, they'll see, they'll all see.."
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)08:53 No.5450714
    Total Kilograms: 4
    Total Energy: Average

    You find some idle grass creeping up from the soil. The information of chlorophyll, starch, and other such plant-based life becomes evident to you. Were you so inclined, plant-like attributes could be added to your host(s) at the expenditure of biomass.

    If you were looking for something less offencive to people with an edumacation, the Metamind would suggest looking at Wikipedia. Which is utterly neutral and unbassed.

    Two kilograms down, you quickly gain the ability to project not-so-thin cables of spider silk at your prey! Netting several flies, you accumulate the other half of a kilogram of biomass and the secret of insectoid flight. Unfortunately, your current body is too large for these tiny fly-wings to hold aloft.

    The creation of a pollen-based infection technique would be very effective against the tiny insects, but humanoids would likely be immune to anything beyond irritation from your glorious parasitic form. Six kilograms would be required to create such a method of infection.

    Define "Hivemind". Your hosts are currently linked by near-instantaneous pheromone-based communication, which allows them to communicate over a yard apart.

    Such a terrible idea! If you could find a way to open doors, such an option might become available. Unfortunately, you are still a pair of thumb-less rodents.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:53 No.5450715

    That sounds too risky. I think having the host produce parasitic worms capable of being water-borne and have them released to a nearby drinking source for rodents.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:53 No.5450717
    Herbivore here. Plants are low tier.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:54 No.5450724

    I second this suggestion.

    Also how warm or cold is the environment? We might need to be mostly mammals if its too cold for insects to work.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:54 No.5450729
    I propose ranged venom/webbing capabilities, and bringing down a pigeon or two.

    Long term goal: flocks of bird who infect larger organisms with poo.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:56 No.5450745

    Or birds that can carry ticks into children bedroom and inject the parasite right into their brains.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:56 No.5450748
    become the cruciform.

    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:57 No.5450756
    Expend Biomass to create ticks on other mouse.

    Gather Biomass with ticks.

    Adapt mouse digestive system to consume plants and convert plant matter into biomass.

    Electromagnetic communications is thirded.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:58 No.5450768
    Or hit a battery farm, and infect eggs. Which, of course, infect everyone who consumes them.

    So we'd need:
    -mass infection capabilities
    -pass on infection through ingestion
    -make disease untraceable by quality control
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)08:59 No.5450770
    Ranged spittle would require another kilogram to produce, with an extra kilogram for every 2ft beyond the starting 3ft.

    The creation of an electromagnetic communications system would be somewhat complex. Four kilograms of biomass would be required to properly reroute the internal electrical highway to power such an organ, as well as for the brains to be enhanced to such a point. Yet they would have instant, near-telepathic communication up to half a mile.

    The tics quickly take to their new task, fetching what they can to ensure the mice receive a steady stream of strength-sustaining materials.

    Curse your lack of ink! And paper! And thumbs! Your diary will have to remain a verbal log for now! But soon, your plant-based glory will be revealed!
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:59 No.5450771
    Add the plant information to your tail, turn it into a giant root you can use to absorb energy from soil.
    >> Othermind 08/14/09(Fri)08:59 No.5450773
    I have an odd and involved plan.

    First we mass our tics on one sleeping creature, have them drain blood from the brain and kill it quick.

    Then we enter the creature via the mouth and burrow through to its brains. Consuming it quickly.

    We then attempt to emualate the functions of its brain, usurping its role and controlling the human husk to transport us to a more genetically rich environment.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:59 No.5450775

    Going to need biomaterials that can survive a frying pan in order for that to work. DNA are pretty fragile stuff.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)08:59 No.5450776
    Or since we have knowledge of plants and insects, bees and honey?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:00 No.5450780
    At least convert ONE of the ticks into a stationary, light fuelled spreader. Just leave him in the alley and forget about it. Please?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:02 No.5450801
    Perhaps we should leave the super communication for now. It's not needed in an alley.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:02 No.5450803
    To do anything, we'll need more biomass. Check nearby dumpsters for flys, maggots, and other organic sources of food.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:02 No.5450804
    Spend biomass to develop photosynthesis. Biomass from sunlight.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:02 No.5450810
    OP what is the temperature of the environment?

    Also what time of the day is it coming to? Been a while since we grow and expand our little colony here.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:03 No.5450813
    We could carve up rat #2 and attract all manner of delicious biomass
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:03 No.5450819
    No. The energy we'd get would create such an incredibly amount of biomass, that it'd a waste of biomass. Unless, we spent somewhere in the ballpark of 300,000 years basking in the sun, in which case we may generate nearly a kilogram of biomass.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:03 No.5450820
    If you are going to infect food you must be able to survive INTENSE HEAT and FREEZING COLD.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:04 No.5450821
    Electromagnetic communication fourthed. Long term goal: hack into WiFi and spread memetically over the interwebs.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:04 No.5450822
    We can gather and store biomass more efficiently with 2 rats. Let's not pull anything like that just yet.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:05 No.5450830
    It is "technically" a warm environment, but the nights here are cold enough to put vagrants in discomfort. Insectoids can survive, but they are not in abundant numbers.

    You spent a kilogram of biomass to produce another group of tics on the weaker rodent. This group quickly drains the same vagrant from before, producing two kilograms of biomass as you rework the rodent's digestive system with the equivalent of a sledgehammer. Battering it into a biomass-conversion system, a single kilogram of the matter is lost in producing the converter.

    Total Biomass: 4 kilograms
    Average Energy: Average
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)09:06 No.5450832
    Crud, forgot the name for my post here...my bad.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:06 No.5450837
    Shit yeah. Have a rat begin eating any and all grass.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:07 No.5450839
    Spend biomass to develop insectoid flight on the tics.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:07 No.5450840
    I second this.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:07 No.5450845
    Instant communication and control is probably useful in the long run. We definitely need the communication network.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:08 No.5450848
    Produce "weed" or "fungus" to spread and collect biomass to be consumed later. Allow them to communicate back using phermones or whatever. Let them spread via spores.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:08 No.5450850
    We'd have a mentally deficient man. We can barely operate at a first grade level. Nothing of this calibur yet, and it'd probably be more efficient to work our way to infecting humans.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:09 No.5450866

    Eating his blood gave us this minor mental capacity, eating his brain will give us all his knowledge
    >> Othermind 08/14/09(Fri)09:11 No.5450874
    Or at least enough for movement to a new area.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:11 No.5450880
    Developing our a rodent brain and cognitive processes and functions, and having a rat adapted to perform these tasks is just too much biomass lost in research. Little returns for more biomass.

    Just continue developing as a parasite. We'll get a hyooman soon.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:12 No.5450882

    The brain is a pretty complex thing to work out. Probably easier if the person involved is still alive. We can just drive it around, maybe like in Ratatouille. Or like the wasp that can control cockroaches.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:12 No.5450883
    Gather information about our surroundings. Sure, it's an alley, but what's the street like? Any food shops, looks of foot traffic?
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)09:12 No.5450886
    I second this.

    If we gather enough biomass to make the communication and flying ticks we can gather biomass at a very satisfying rate.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:14 No.5450902

    Is there a nearby sewer grate? We could send fully loaded parasite ticks into the sewer to be consumed by cockroaches and then programed the cockroaches to die and be consumed by other cockcroaches.

    This is like an instant army here. Still need the communication to control them.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:15 No.5450907
    Thirded. Also, modify them to be infectious to whatever attempts to eat them. We can gain a couple spiders. Spiders can help with the biomass, too, and the tics only require 1 kg of biomass for a single rat host.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:16 No.5450909
    We will gain biomass from consuming the humans brain.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:16 No.5450912
    I understand that. I think we'd need to expend more to get the rat able to replace that brain and operate him.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)09:17 No.5450916
    Absorbing nutrients from the soil would be redundant with your feeder-tics present. If you wish to continue the course of action, it would require two kilograms of mass.

    This plan is likely the fastest to work thus far. Granted, once at extremely low levels of blood, brain decay is likely to begin. Reanimated host might not have all of the higher functions it once possessed.

    A lone tic converted into a self-sufficient micro-virus-factory would require three kilograms of biomass. As well as this, it would likely only be able to hijack basic insects and the occasional spider. Confirmation requested.

    Going through another overturned garbage can, you find almost all of a rack of ribs, barely touched. Quite the find! You gain four kilograms of biomass from eating the scrumptious meal.

    Warning: Your host body will become a bright shade of plant-green, but you will gain one kilogram of biomass per hour from the energy being converted. OR, you could remain at a steady "Average" energy supply when not involved in energy-consuming projects.

    A cool seventy-five degrees Fahrenheit.

    Electromagnetic communications, requiring four kilograms of biomass, would leave you with four kilograms of biomass remaining for your two rodents. The modifications are quick, the organs developing internally until a steady electromagnetic exchange took place between the two rodents. Whatever you command was performed well within milliseconds.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:17 No.5450917
    The ticks can only go a few feet away from us.
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)09:17 No.5450919
    Also if they get infected by eating the ticks we will also have an army of pigeons. Assuming the infection is powerful enough to overpower their immune system. Maybe more than one tick is needed.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:17 No.5450920
    I'm trying to figure out if it's just one guy who keeps changing his name that makes these threads or if it's a series of people who see that something worked once and then try to glorysurf a little while driving it into the ground.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:20 No.5450931
    Now we can control the flying tics from a good distance, start modifying the tics we already have that don't have a task, then send them to infect flies, spiders etc and bring them down for biomass.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:20 No.5450937
    I say we go for photosynthesis, but we must also grow horns so we look less pansy ass.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:21 No.5450946

    Does it matter? This gives us something to do. Trying to figure out whether it is done by one guy or by someone else while over the anonymity of the internet is like theorising philosophy.

    Also, how far can the ticks go from our body now that we have some wifi?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:22 No.5450948
    Seconded (or thirded, really) for 1kg/h.

    And fire breathing, to make dragon rats.
    >> Magnificent Bastard !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)09:22 No.5450955
    If this is garbage, there must be humans nearby.

    Can I infect all types of animal? If so, with my 4kg it should be easy to move.

    >get out of the trash and look for nearest life-form.
    I assume that the rat is fully consumed/controllable?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:23 No.5450957
    We'd need to drink some petrol and find a way to ignite said petrol.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:23 No.5450961
    That's a little vague on the Electromagnetic communication. If we don't have it, develop it.

    Send our a rat on an expedition into a nearby sewer system in search of other rats and mice. We should have better pheromones, and such is a breeding place for all sorts of insect life.

    Develop flight on the tics, if we have sufficient biomass, and have them collect biomass.

    Meanwhile, have a mouse scavenge more dumpsters/garbage cans and eat whatever plant life is possible.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:24 No.5450966

    We are going to stick out like a green thumb.

    Pun intended.
    >> Magnificent Bastard !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)09:25 No.5450971
    >plant life
    Good plan. Garbage is kept near the front lawn. There should be shitloads of grass around.

    >Develop electromagnetic communication.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:25 No.5450976
    Dude, we are a giant ass rat. We weigh a normal rat +8 kilograms. I think we already stick out, especially since we grew vestigial wings. :/
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:26 No.5450979
    Read http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=puns
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:26 No.5450983
    We're in an alley. Read the thread.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:28 No.5450991

    OK, this brings up a point. We should at least learn some basic camouflage. Or we could go some advance chameleon or cuttlefish colour change.
    >> Magnificent Bastard !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)09:29 No.5450999
    Yeah oops just noticed. In most alleys, esp. unused ones, grass can get up between paving slabs - our ticks should investigate and communicate to rats to try and eat any grass around.

    > Rat looks around for nearby drainpipes for crawling up to buildings.

    I've forgotten already what we have, so can I have a reminder of all that we have in our control?
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)09:31 No.5451011
    At the time I would suggest it's a better idea to stay hidden as a normal, albeit obese rat than as a supernatural obese rat. We're not powerful enough to fight humans yet.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)09:31 No.5451012
    There isn't much in the way of weeds, but you consume two kilograms of biomass from what little vegetation there is. By the time you're finished, nothing remains of the green stuff in the alley.

    You end up spending a single kilogram of biomass to modify ALL tics with flight capabilities. It's not that glorious, but it works. Their scant few feet of pheromone-based functionality expands into the air, allowing them to get at the grime upon the walls as well. No extra biomass, but the rodents are now kept to Near-Full energy.

    It will take two kilograms of biomass to produce the spores necessary. Afterwards, the self-replicating biomass weed will infest the alley in a few days. A long-term investment if anything.

    Your cogitative capabilities as of now rely upon your enhanced host mind. Infecting the human will give you access to the human's capabilities, but the organs within him will have to remain there to ensure basic functionality. Only a few parts could be scrapped for biomass safely. Sacrificing your current main host for the vagrant would be a large investment. Further debate requested.

    With your enhanced brain power, you can make out the buildings you're situated between: A "Restaurant" and a "furniture store". You know that the former has food, but the latter apparently has large amounts of treated lumber with biomass.

    There is indeed a sewer grate near the vagrants, but it is safely secured. Your tics are unlikely to operate far beneath the sewers, seeing their reliance upon the rodents for guidance.

    It will likely take three to four tics to overwhelm the average avian's immune system safely.
    >> Magnificent Bastard !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)09:31 No.5451015
    I disagree. That will take up loads of biomass and I doubt that it's possible to distinguish a normal rat from an infected one. Probably best to find more rats and not infect them but travel around with them.

    No-one wants to fuck with a whole pack of rats...
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:35 No.5451036

    Quantity of any creature is vital to a hive mind. With more rats, we can get more biomass, much more quickly.
    >> Magnificent Bastard !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)09:35 No.5451037
    >It will take two kilograms of biomass to produce the spores necessary. Afterwards, the self-replicating biomass weed will infest the alley in a few days. A long-term investment if anything.

    I'd say do the spore thing. A whole street sounds like a good idea, even if it will take a long time

    GUYS use caution when deciding whether to attack the restaurant. Unless we go in small eg send in a single pregnant tick to lay eggs and eat in the kitchen, we'll be noticed and exterminated.

    How much biomass to get some ticks pregnant?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:37 No.5451049

    Makes sense. I forgot we are a parasite, not a rat with world dominating ambitions.

    Since we have a wifi network available, is it possible to improve it till it reaches true hivemind like an internet? We might not need to infect a human if we can outdo it with a collective consciousness.

    Or we could kill and infect the vagrant and then develop the brain power to do so.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:38 No.5451050
    You guys have no patience. You're trying to fight the end boss during the tutorial.
    Not an RTS

    >consume rack of ribs.
    > convert biomass into improved olfactory organs.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:39 No.5451051
    I'd recommend getting a human for the sheer power of a human mind and it's adaptive qualities.

    But that is for later. Now, we need to grow into a network so we can gather large amounts of biomass quickly.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:40 No.5451054
    I think we should send out rat 2 to scout around. A forest or park would be a good place to go, or a food shop.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:40 No.5451055
    Grow some Carpace flaps with shootable needle spine's.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:41 No.5451060
    We have flight capable ticks, and soon to be a half mile control radius.

    We can use those to scout once we have electromagnetic communication.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:41 No.5451062

    First a street, then a field, then a village, then a town etc. Make sure this new "weed" doesn't look abnormal. And make sure it can communicate back in some way and we can comminicate with it. That way we can force mutations within them from range. Very handy
    >> Magnificent Bastard !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)09:41 No.5451064
    >improve it till it reaches true hivemind like an internet

    I second that motion.

    Also, disregard what I said about sporeing that alley. Upgrade the pregnant ticks with spore-ness too and send them into the back of the restaurant. Surely there's loads of food waste there...

    Imagine, so much biomass to be had and nobody will notice until it is too late !
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:43 No.5451073
    By the way, I'd definately play this game. Fund it!
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)09:44 No.5451080
    Total Biomass: 5
    Average Energy: Near-Full
    Time of day: Middle of night

    Several tics perform kamikazi runs, a pair of spiders and some small flies being brought down. Eventually a kilogram of mass is consumed! A nice addition.

    Fire breath would, as mentioned by a poster below, require imbibing some sort of flammable substance to expel. That, or creating glands that secrete said substance after it is discovered.

    You can infect all types of animals, yes. Four kilograms of biomass should enable access to most types of animals for rapid conquest, but will consume what you have collected and stored thus far.

    Photosynthesis issue appears to be contested still. Will wait for evolution until decision made.

    Current assets:
    1 Rodent with:
    -6 Flying Feeder tics (Keep both rodents at Near-Full energy)
    -Enhanced Cortex (First grade-equivalent skills)
    -Web-producing glands
    -Electromagnetic communications organ
    Parasite-spreading venom glands (infective bite)
    1 Rodent with:
    -6 nontasked flying tics (Currently gathering the odd piece of biomass)
    -Electromagnetic communications organ

    (If there's antything/anybody I missed...please inform me)
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:45 No.5451082
    Not that I am complaining but I think the rat is being too efficient at converting stuff to biomass. Its like whatever we eat is converted 100%.

    As again, not complaining.
    Also, check inventory.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:46 No.5451087
    A thought. Our host is a rat. What is the maximum amount of biomass we are able to hold? It can't be more than 10 Kilos
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)09:47 No.5451089
    Good plan, but read
    I said we ought to take the back of the restaurant. No use taking over an alley with no food in it.

    About that hobo...
    How about have a rat die from the virus in front of him
    He might eat it and get infected. Don't consume him though because having a zombie would be AWESOME.

    Recap for the OP:

    >electromagnetic communication to high standard

    >Pregnant, spore carrying ticks to back of restaurant

    > send a rat to look for more rats
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:47 No.5451091
    Ticks bring down a pigeon. Bite the hobos, if they're still sleeping.
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)09:47 No.5451093
    The flying ticks will block out the streetlight! We will feed in the shade!

    Would be more efficient if we used the sporehubs as some sort of control stations. Given them some minor intelligence to be used for subcontrol. But this is far far away and metamind will probably assume this entity is crazy.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)09:48 No.5451096
    they'd burn to death if they tried to block the light...
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:49 No.5451098
    Get the second rat to venture into the street and see if he can find a way into the sewer to collect more rats. Hopefully the EM communications will hold through the sewer walls
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:49 No.5451106

    >Find another (real) rat, bite and infect it.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:50 No.5451110

    I second the spore hub as a subcontrol tower. Think radio towers for cellphones. I think with our current inventory,

    SInce it only took 2 kg of biomass to make a second rat, might I advise to make a third rat to increase ticks spreading capability?
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)09:52 No.5451118
    I say make a rat for the kamikaze idea i had, and also get photosynthesis for the flying ticks. They can then just fly next to the streetlight and be replenished any time we need it.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:52 No.5451122
    What the shit are you on about?
    Goal is to spread infection, not consume biomass.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:53 No.5451128
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:54 No.5451134
    Without biomass we wouldn't get far.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)09:55 No.5451136
    Agreed. maybe send a tic just to bite the hobo to see if anything happens? That way, no biomass lost. He probaby wouldn't even notice...
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)09:55 No.5451137
    Consuming biomass is a subgoal. This entity is ambitious and trusts in the effiency of flying ticks.
    More biomass can be transmuted into more ticks and so on.
    That said, how much biomass do we have at our disposal?
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)09:55 No.5451141
    One kilogram of biomass to create six pregnant tics, which will infest the restaurant in under a day. Assuming, of course, that one rat is kept on station to keep them in line. If not, then two kilograms to create a "Queen Tic" for the gatherers.

    Two kilograms spent, a quick burst of pheromones sends the spores in every direction. Chemicals fill the air as they take root, beginning a deadly process of drawing nutrients and converting them.

    Are you sure you wish to send the rat into the outside street? Though relatively empty this late at night, there is always the risk of the odd careless human stepping upon your only other host form.

    This will cost two of your three remaining kilograms of biomass. Confirm offensive mutation?

    Half-mile control radius has been established. Tics, however, still rely upon pheromones due to a lack of receptor organs for electromagnetic impulses.

    A third rodent appears at this time, lured- no doubt- by the sudden surge of activity at this time. It could be consumed for two kilograms of biomass, OR it could be converted into yet another loyal drone (requiring two kilograms of biomass to make EM-communicating).

    Total Biomass: 3kg
    Average Energy: Near-Full
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:55 No.5451143
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    We could create a ant like hivemind later, we'd need one 'queen' which produces workers/spores/parasites and a few guards should the humans get to it.
    As for the guards, i'd like some hydralisks.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:56 No.5451146
    Yes, but you're getting it backwards. Consume biomass to improve infection abilities, not improve random abilities to consume more biomass.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)09:57 No.5451152

    Oh fuck! Almost forgot the main objective. Still, we need a mobile host to spread the infection. Its still an idea to keep going as a zoological infection till we can become waterborne or more awesome: airborne.
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)09:58 No.5451163
    >>This will cost two of your three remaining kilograms of biomass. Confirm offensive mutation?
    Overruled. It's a waste of precious biomass.

    >>Are you sure you wish to send the rat into the outside street? Though relatively empty this late at night, there is always the risk of the odd careless human stepping upon your only other host form.
    Can said rat not look out for itself? Tell it to stick to walls and move fast and carefully.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:00 No.5451176
    Do newly infected organisms develop all previously attained mutations? If so, infect, rather than consume, new rodent please.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:00 No.5451178

    Actually, I think the rat is safe because a human is nearby. Venturing out might yield some unexpected enemy. Of course if the rat is eaten by a cat, we would just have a new host.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:00 No.5451181
    Infect rat. Spend 2 kg of biomass on it. Convert remaining 1kg into feeder/biomass gathering tics.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:02 No.5451191
    Agreed, I've never trodden on a rat in my life because they're wary by nature.

    Also, convert third rat.

    Also also, is there any way we can improve the efficiency of our body? Getting rid of organs we don't need for biomass and reduced energy demand?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:03 No.5451197
    With that much blood/biomass that we are draining from the humans, they must be in a near comatose state already ...

    I am tempted to kill them off and just consume all their body weights to develop cooler stuff.
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)10:03 No.5451198
    You maka a valid point. This entity apologises for forgetting the Purpose.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:03 No.5451202
    > Make 1 queen for all tics
    >Infect rat, use remaining 1kg to keep it docile until we get another for actual electrocomms.
    >Get 1 tic to just bite hobo.

    Do you people think the queen ought to be used for the restaurant plan? I say yeah, but your call.

    The spine idea is retarded. Biting works just as well, and doesn't make our guys stand out much.

    The airborne thing is awesome, but i doubt it would cost us less than 15 kg so whatever...
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:05 No.5451214
    We don't need a queen tic for the restaurant while we're near it. Just send in whatever biomass of tics we have left after converting the third rat.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:06 No.5451218
    There's nothing wrong with stabilizing a high-income of Biomass. It makes us supernaturally adaptive, and capable of countering any threats, while progressing our infection at a steady rate.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:08 No.5451228

    I think its a good idea, however there is a chance the queen tick might go rogue and start its own little fan club if it goes out of our control range. It is in a rich resources area, it could out compete us if that happens.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)10:09 No.5451239
    That is because the rat is being supplied for energy by the tics: If they weren't there to feed it, it'd sustain itself off of biomass.

    The next level of EM communication- a mile radius with the ability to affect basic electronics like calculators- costs 12kg of Biomass. Keep saving it up...

    Ten kilos is correct, but that is PER RODENT. As such, that's a 20kg maximum capacity. Period.

    It would cost 1kg for the fleas to be adapted for the spores. You've already designed the archetype: Incorporating a tiny spore-producer into the pregnant tics wouldn't be too much of a leap.

    As mentioned before, there is a sewer grate in the alley, so as to save the risk of traveling out of the "safety zone". The half-mile communications radius might be reduced to a quarter-mile, however.

    Such entities would require at least ten kilograms to produce the basic necessities for sustaining their growth. The body for the creature itself would be best created by incorporating a reptile, the body of a medium-sized canine, and about ten kilograms of metal. The biomass required to fuse that all together would be 20kg.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:09 No.5451246
    'Us' is the disease, so if the queen goes rogue and spreads it... yay.
    >> Sinister !!Msv/eq0XlRR 08/14/09(Fri)10:10 No.5451255
    Do we comsume biomass when infecting another organism?

    I suggest, again, improving our hosts olfactory organs. What better to sniff out tasty organisms with.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:11 No.5451266
    AGREED. The queen is not a problem. Send 'emr in.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:12 No.5451270
    Request: further details on incorporating non biological materials into our glorious form.
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)10:13 No.5451279

    Unity is strength. But for now it's acceptable.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:13 No.5451285
    I'm thinking knife-rats which spread disease in the stab wound. MUAHAHA
    >> Sinister !!Msv/eq0XlRR 08/14/09(Fri)10:14 No.5451292
    Also, as previously asked, do newly infected orgasnisms accquire all previous mutations?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:15 No.5451297
    How much biomass does it cost to adapt the tics for electromagnetic communications?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:15 No.5451298
    Agree on the efficiency, anything that can go. I assume we don't need the intestines for anything other than excretion? Shorten them.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:17 No.5451313
    More like an armoured exoskeleton in which to contain the core component of our glorious self/selves so that I/we may direct our subsidiary self/selves with a degree of invulnerability.
    >> Sinister !!Msv/eq0XlRR 08/14/09(Fri)10:18 No.5451316
    Jesus I would totally play this game. Fucking.... fund it!
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:18 No.5451322
    It can, but this is what has been classified as "the city". People here "do not give a shit" about inferior creatures like rodents. Though careful, the risk of being crushed is omnipresent. Continue with requested action regardless?

    As of this point, no. The virus does not have any automatic mutations wired into it, due to the fact that new organs and the like must be created via biomass attained.

    Two rodents on one is no contest at all: With a few quick nips and some scratching, the two rats overpower the third. Biomass is vomited upon it in copious amounts, the rodents emptying their stores as the new member of the group is brought into the fold. EM communication is instilled,and six tics quickly harass the other vagrants for two kilograms of biomass.

    That very biomass is then expelled onto one of the tics, the creature developing a bare-minimum amount of intelligence for the tic "strike force". Laden with children, they await the command to infest the restaurant for their parasitic master.

    Total Biomass: 0
    Average Energy: Near-Full
    Time: Midnight
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:19 No.5451326
    I'd say it ought to be like that because those mutations are the traits of the virus, but it's OP's call...
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)10:19 No.5451330
    Once more, I forget to add my name to this shit. Will I lose my head next? Who knows...
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:20 No.5451338
    I think it would be efficent to try and infest a ant queen, also we could use the spine thing for our low class rodents to infest more animals.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:21 No.5451342
    We lost two units of biomass, but then gained two, and then lost one... and we have none left?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:22 No.5451350
    I think A-sexual reproduction is needed.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:23 No.5451356
    Let's send the ticks in now.
    >> Sinister !!Msv/eq0XlRR 08/14/09(Fri)10:24 No.5451360
    Unleash restaurant invasion. Propose using accquired biomass to develop means of transferring all previous mutations into newly infected hosts. Necessary amount?
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:24 No.5451362
    >awaiting the command

    Also, how much would it cost to make it so that mutations are automatic?

    I'd suggest that the infected organism could sacrifice all of the biomass needed for the immune system to give itself over fully, then use that to make the mutations to happen to itself.

    Though to change the virus to incorporate that trait would cast us, presumably.

    Question is, how much?
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)10:25 No.5451366
    Does the queen have the capability for evolving or do we need to worry about revolution in our ranks?

    I would suggest awaiting day time for spreading of diseases and refil of the garbage cans for easier biomass.
    Also report of Rat2.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:25 No.5451367
    This kind of reminds me of Prototype.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:25 No.5451370
    We have that don't we? Isn't how we made the second rat? It just seems an inefficient form of spreading the infection, when there are plenty of host bodies out there for the taking.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:26 No.5451373
    Epic plan. How much would Asexual reproduction cost the ticks?
    No it cost 2 to make a queen. We started with 2 before. Therefore
    We had 2
    We used that 2
    We got another 2
    We used that as well.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)10:28 No.5451386
    You do not, necessarily, consume biomass when infecting. If you wish to remove body parts like claws, fur, etc, then biomass can be gained. Improving olfactory ("scent") capabilities would require two kilograms of biomass, but allow for the ability to sniff out juicier materials to consume for the only matter that matters.

    The Tic Queen quickly moves under the crack of the door and into what appears to be the back room/kitchen of the eatery. Spreading out rapidly the micro-colony of tics establishes themselves in several pantries. They would give birth later in the night and begin a steady stream of biomass-rich foodstuffs being transported back under the Queen's guidance.

    With the acquisition of non-organic materials, biomass may by incorporated with them to dissolve, rework, and perform any other number of tasks. The more biomass used, the more of a material that might be incorporated (for example, three kilograms of biomass used in conjunction with a tin can might be able to produce a tin safety-shell around one of the Host-Rodents).

    Seeing how small they are, one kilogram should cover the requirements.

    Shortening the intestines on all three rodents leads to mild discomfort for each when relieving themselves, but their comfort is of no concern. Three kilograms of biomass are gained from the mutation, the rodents forced to endure.

    Total Biomass: 3kg
    Average Energy: Near-Full
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:28 No.5451387
    Send the second rat down the sewers by the opening in the alley if possible, if not, tell him to go out into the street and look for an opening. Tell him to stick by walls where possible, and take his time waiting for less humans to be about. and then run like shit and dive into the sewers.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:28 No.5451390
    I doubt there'd be a revolution because the virus is in the tick queen and therefore we can hurt her enough to change her mind.
    >> Sinister !!Msv/eq0XlRR 08/14/09(Fri)10:28 No.5451392
    That depends on wether we're a virus, some sort of bacteriophage.. A virus reproduces BY infecting cells, bacteria and should already be able to just replicate.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:30 No.5451405
    >concern over keeping hidden
    Read last OP post, it's midnight...
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:31 No.5451409
    What would it take to develop some kind of insurance policy?

    Like, if a rat is eaten, infection will move to the new host, or through blood contact?
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:31 No.5451414
    He meant for the ticks.
    Fuck that, we have a queen and ticks. LETS GET SOME FUCKING GOING ON.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:32 No.5451420
    Upgrade the tics and then send them out to infect all assortments of creatures that may be useful. If necessary how much would it cost to enable the tics to give the EM communications to infected targets?
    Tell the tics to attempt to retrieve one animal from each genus (bird, reptile, fish etc)
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:33 No.5451423
    Only a kg? Sure. Give all the tics electromagnetic communications.
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)10:33 No.5451427
    How much biomass and energy would it cost to develop a more potent infection? Say enough for a single tick to infect a human?
    >> Sinister !!Msv/eq0XlRR 08/14/09(Fri)10:33 No.5451429
    Actually, I was asking if we "use up" biomass to infect other organisms, but it seems like we do, what with vomiting on the third rat and all.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:33 No.5451431
    That would happen anyway with any virus.an infected cell when consumed becomes a cell in the new body. It's still infected, and it will then go and infect the other cells.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)10:34 No.5451436
    For each mutation thus far, use 1/2 it's price in kilograms to make it "hard coded" into the virus itself. Any special cases will be noted. If the price of a feature is 1kg, then make it cost 0kg.

    Another event!: It is at this point that the first of the tics have begun to give birth. The first crumbs are being brought from the restaurant, netting one whole kilogram of biomass. The queen does not appear capable of evolving without your stern instruction. She simply sends the various drones on their tasks, plundering the food storage.

    Total Biomass: 4kg
    Average Energy: Near-Full
    Time: Half-past Midnight
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:35 No.5451439
    Any of the ticks or rats (or even the vagrants) carrying any kinds of lyme disease, or 'flu or plague that we can research?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:36 No.5451447
    No need to upgrade the range of the communications. just use infested targets as relays.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:36 No.5451453
    It's already happened. or rather, not infected but consumed... somehow...
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)10:39 No.5451463
    I mean, say a tick bites a human and he gets infected.
    Not instantly of course, but over the course of a few days or so.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:40 No.5451471
    Or even if the fucker just latches on and pumps the virus in over a few hours.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:42 No.5451485
    Hardcode the communications into the virus.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:42 No.5451487
    Ok then Metamind.
    >Hard-wire all mutations into virus using remaining 4kg

    That should make things easier.

    If possible, get 1 tick to get into the kitchen and throw up in one of the more popular ingredients, like sugar.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:43 No.5451499
    We have a restaurant right at our side

    I say we search for their trash spot (where they throw all the unwanted food etc), to gain godly amounts of biomatter
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)10:43 No.5451503
    Would also work. But a drop and inject is probably more effient unless they are massive and needs more time to get all of it in. Which just raises the awareness of infection.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:44 No.5451511
    Read the thread.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)10:44 No.5451516
    The rat dives into the sewers, your parasitic mind picking up on the details below: The utter lack of light, the abundance of fecal matter, the stone rungs leading up, and the sound of rushing water. Evidently there are indeed multiple rats down below: Rat 2 landing in a group of at least four of them. They all just continue scurrying around, scavenging through the disease-ridden waters.

    You are a virus. You replicate by taking over the host's cells and shaping them to your own whim.

    It is automatic that the virus spreads on to the next victim. However, the consumer of the rodent may have sufficiently strong immunities to resist the virus. The stronger the concentration (I.E. The more mutated/the longer it's been controlled) the more likely the new host is taken over.

    The upgrade for ALL tic-specific EM communication would be 3kg: They are much more numerous, smaller, and potent. Of course, the 1kg covers the ones currently produced. For all future generations of modified tic to gain the EM automatically, it would cost 3kg.

    For a tiny tic to infect a large human? It'd cost about twenty five kilograms to ensure ALL tics could perform the action. A single batch of six tics capable of performing that action? Ten kilograms of biomass.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:45 No.5451521
    It's happening right now. Read last OP post.

    Also, get a rat to look around for any drainpipes. usually, the owners live directly above their restaurant. That way we could infect the manager and his wife.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:46 No.5451527
    Thats me
    Ok, srry, i thought we were infesting the restaurant somehow, now it actually makes sense
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)10:47 No.5451529
    >>For a tiny tic to infect a large human? It'd cost about twenty five kilograms to ensure ALL tics could perform the action. A single batch of six tics capable of performing that action? Ten kilograms of biomass.
    Hefty cost. I think it's worth it though. And now we should be able to have a good biomass income with th resturant in our grasp.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:47 No.5451533
    Get the rat down in the sewers to see if he can round one of the weaker rats off on his own and convert him, (after hardcoding the EM thing) then kill another rat for biomass, and alternate between biomass and infection until he can't find any more rats.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:48 No.5451536
    >Have the Sewer Rat (see what I did there?) throw up on the others.
    >Eat any faeces that may yield biomass.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:48 No.5451540
    Chances that sewer-rat can aggravate the pack down there and spread disease to them?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:50 No.5451552
    We need to improve our vector of infection and virulence. Something along the lines of the Rage virus from 28 Days Later: Spread the virus via mucous membrane contct and overwhelm immune systems within minutes. If we pour all our biomass/research into this then the rest should be easy. How do we make this happen?
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:50 No.5451553
    >Seriously, use everything we have from restaurant and sewer-rats to hard-code all mutations.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)10:51 No.5451568
    Foolproof infection over the course of a few days? 15kg to hard-wire. 5kg for a single batch of 6.

    Does "All" include the web-creation, parasitic bite, fly wings, expanded blood capacity, so on? Or just the "standard" ones like the parasitic bite, web-making, enhanced cortex, so forth?
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:52 No.5451573
    Not yet, we're far, far too weak. We have to work on the basics before something like that. I would cost at least 20kg for that kind of epic shit...
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)10:54 No.5451593
    >>Foolproof infection over the course of a few days? 15kg to hard-wire. 5kg for a single batch of 6.
    5 kilos for 6 human servants?
    My fellow entities, we could score ourself the basic foundation for an international spreading.
    We do have the knowledge of the world in general right?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:55 No.5451595
    All of them if we can, if possible could we make every new evolution automatically hardcoded for a cost? Also spreading the information about the new evolution across the EM network so it enhances all of our older infectees
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:55 No.5451596
    'All' means everything we can afford using current biomass.

    Low priority stuff, if we can't afford it, forget it.
    I'd say the extended blood capacity thing and anything that makes us distinguishable from normal animals is low priority. Also, obviously, we only need 1 tick queen.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:56 No.5451603

    Alright maybe not quite so epic yet but at the least we should focus on improving the vector beyond "vomiting on our victim" it's a waste of biomass and inefficient.

    Someone asked earlier if we can replicate some diseases found in the vagrants bloodstream. Any progress on that?
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:57 No.5451606
    >every evolution auto hardcoded.
    Good idea, but no. It would cost too much

    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:58 No.5451616
    We have bite-infection hardwired not, that should be enough.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)10:59 No.5451619
    Stupid me, I meant
    not 'not'
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)10:59 No.5451620

    All we should have hardcoded right now is the EM Comm node so they can receive our orders long distance and the infectious bite so they can spread our virus to others. Maybe the increased biomass storage mutation too.

    What would those three cost us to hardcode into the virus?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)11:00 No.5451625
    Also I think we're autosaging
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)11:00 No.5451630
    I'd say the enhanced cortex would also be required for increased survivability
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)11:02 No.5451640
    We want everything good hardwired. Best that way.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)11:02 No.5451645
    You have the rough idea that a first grader would: You are in a city, you know the people here speak English, and you know the basics of hot/cold, so on, so forth.

    Keep in mind that the full gestation time is a week, over which time the people afflicted would begin to get symptoms. So, beware what you buy is the bottom line for this virus...

    The rodent vomits upon two of the unconverted which- seeing weakness- quickly tear into it. The "enhanced" rodent does not last for very long, but at the cost of one you gain two! The other two rodents in the pack have wandered off, but the two infected begin to undergo their mutations as they dive through the muck in search of biomass. Consuming fecal matter like great vacuums, they collect two kilograms of the material.

    It takes three hours for the necessary biomass to accumulate, but soon enough your glorious form has been modified enough to auto-create the mutations upon infection. This has emptied your stocks of all but two kilograms of biomass.

    The restaurant facility is fully operational, the pregnant tics bringing in 2kg of biomass every hour.

    Total Biomass: 2kg
    Average Energy: Average
    Time: 3:30 AM
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)11:04 No.5451663
    Hmm. Could we use those 2kg to auto-update every current minion?

    How are the ticks doing?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)11:05 No.5451673
    No, seriously we're autosaging
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)11:05 No.5451676
    Get the two rats in the sewer to eat the old dead number two for biomass.
    Then have them hunt for other rats to infect until we have a good sized rat army. Have their tics turn the fecal matter into energy for them.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)11:05 No.5451679
    I wish to infect the little girl.
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)11:06 No.5451688
    Are there any trees on the pavement outside the alley? If so, send a rat to investigate, we need some woodworm DNA to raid that furniture store.
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)11:07 No.5451694
    The minions auto-updated with the virus hardcoding. All things said and told, you guys seem close to exiting the "tutorial" phase here. Good job, folks! Also, the tics have that current "trade route" established right now, bringing the food in question to your two above-ground rodents to stockpile the biomass up.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)11:07 No.5451695
    Good plan.
    Also, someone make a new thread and hope to God no retards come and spoil this.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)11:08 No.5451702
    Shit...could somebody archive this please? If you all think it's worth archiving, that is.
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)11:08 No.5451704
    Can we build some sort of biomass bank where the ticks in the restaurant can store extra biomass in case our body stores become overwhelmed?

    Also, when we have enough biomass make 6 ticks that can infect humans and tell them with our telepathy to seek people who are similar to the vagrant we found earlier.
    They could not possibly afford medical assistance.
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)11:09 No.5451708
    Query: is this worth archiving?
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)11:09 No.5451711
    Yes, for reference
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)11:10 No.5451712
    Using a fusion of the tick and rodent DNA, can we create some kind of queen-spawner in the sewers that can create and modify new organisms more effectively?
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)11:11 No.5451723
    Fuck YES. Send 1 tic from the trade route to see about woodworm.

    I'd like to request current inventory, if that's not too much of a problem...
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)11:12 No.5451732
    Actually, there were multiple vagrants asleep in the alley. Three, to be exact. You drained one of his blood in his sleep to the point of going comatose. The other two are still asleep and bundled up in newspaper. If you care to wait, it will take 2 hours to produce the six tics necessary. If not, you could just drain the comatose vagrant for the rest of what he has in an attempt to rush things along.
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)11:13 No.5451742

    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)11:14 No.5451744
    Thank you VERY much.
    >> FortyCakes !cLAc5rAVRA 08/14/09(Fri)11:14 No.5451748
    Metamind, could you make a new thread for this?
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)11:15 No.5451751
    Two human hosts! We shall spread! We shall grow! We shall be numerous!
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)11:15 No.5451752
    Drain the comatose vagrant.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)11:15 No.5451756
    Great stuff man.
    I suggest we wait.
    News on woodworm idea?
    Inventory (if you can be bothered)?
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)11:17 No.5451768
    2 people for waiting and making some zombies
    1 impatient person
    Let's spawn some fucking ticks!
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)11:18 No.5451771
    We should study the humans blood to develop a way to overcome its immune system
    >> Metamind 08/14/09(Fri)11:19 No.5451784
    Let's rock this party boat in the new thread! TO A NEW THREAD!
    >> Anonymous 08/14/09(Fri)11:19 No.5451789
    To be fair, the way we've been draining blood is impossible to view without cutting the vagrant open.
    >> Scribble !!OAWrY1fJkRE 08/14/09(Fri)11:21 No.5451810
    link to new thread?
    >> the wogsi !6cLkJmakko 08/14/09(Fri)11:26 No.5451848
    new thread

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