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    193 KB Eclipse Phase - Transhumanist Nerdrapture Gone Wrong Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:29 No.5622166  
    Your mind is software. Program it.
    Your body is a shell. Change it.
    Death is a disease. Cure it.
    Extinction is approaching. Fight it.

    Eclipse Phase is a tabletop roleplaying game of transhuman conspiracy and horror.

    Humanity stands on the cusp of a new age, with accelerated technological growth converging toward a singularity point, promising an undreamt-of future. Despite the ecopocalypse and social upheavals on Earth, humanity has conquered the solar system and partially terraformed Mars. Advancements in biotechnology, nanotechnology, artificial intelligence, and cognitive science have transformed our lives. Everyone is wirelessly networked with the world around them, AIs process vast amounts of information, and nano-fabrication enables people to “print” complex devices from the molecular level—at home. Biotechnology allows people to genefix, enhance, and clone their bodies, while others pursue body modifications to adapt to new environments or make themselves into something no longer quite human. People’s minds and memories can be digitized, uploaded, transferred over long distances, and downloaded into new bodies (biological or synthetic). Death has been defeated—for those who can afford it.
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    From within, disaster struck. Transhumanity reaped the rewards of its arrogance when conflict spiked between the battered nations of Earth, already weakened by decades of climate catastrophes and other disruptive factors. Rampant netwars soon exploded into physical conflicts with spiraling body counts. In the midst of these aggressions, a group of military AIs known as TITANS quietly achieved full sentience and autonomy, and rapidly began exponentially incrementing their own intellectual growth. The AI intelligences spawned by this hard-takeoff singularity quickly turned against transhumanity, enveloping the system in unprecedented levels of violence, disaster, and warfare. What began as a whirlwind of conflict between political factions, revolutionaries, and hypercorps soon escalated into a struggle between man and machine.

    In just a few years, transhumanity was nearly wiped out with nuclear strikes, biowarfare plagues, destructive nanoswarms, infowar attacks, mass uploads, and other unexplained singularity events, ripping the superpowers of old to pieces. Our planetary home—Earth—was transformed into a toxic and strange hellhole, while many major habitats were left frozen sarcophagi in the vacuum of space. Just as quickly as they came, the TITANS disappeared, taking millions of uploaded minds with them, leaving behind a network of wormhole gateways. Known as Pandora Gates, these poorly-understood devices allow instantaneous teleportation to distant star systems—often one-way and/or fatal. Though only a handful of Pandora Gates are known to exist—each highly contested—the foolish, brave, curious, and desperate are already risking certain death to enter and explore what lies beyond.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:30 No.5622174
    Rapidshare the corebook or GTFO.
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    In the aftermath of the Fall, transhumanity lives on, divided into a patchwork of hypercorp combines, survivalist stations, transhuman faction species, and city-state habitats. Under the oppressive police states of immortal inner-system oligarchies, advanced technologies remain highly restricted, and refugee infomorphs are held in virtual slavery or resleeved in robotic bodies and forced into indentured labor. In the outer system, rebel transhuman scientists and techno-anarchists struggle to maintain a new society—from each according to their imagination and to each according to their need. And on the fringes and in the niches lurk networked tribes of political extremists, religious fanatics, criminal entrepeneurs, and bizarre posthumans, among other, stranger, and more alien things ...

    Though most claim the Fall was carefully orchestrated by the out-of-control TITANS, others whisper that the driving powers behind the wars—both AI and transhuman—were infected by a mutating virus with multiple infection vectors—biological, information, nano—dubbed the Exsurgent virus. Whatever its source, this virus has been known to sometimes transform its victims into something unexplainable ... something monstrous and reality-altering. Whatever the truth, the remnants of the TITANS and this virus were left to the desolated ruins or driven to the edges of the system, where they remain hidden away in dark corners, quietly waiting to infect the minds of the scavengers and explorers who find them ...


    yadda yadda etc etc

    Has /tg/ gotten together a group for this game yet?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:31 No.5622181
    >Eclipse Phase is a tabletop roleplaying game of transhuman conspiracy and horror.

    Delta Green but the characters are octopi?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:34 No.5622213
    Something sure smells viral in here.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:34 No.5622226
    Octopi, gray parrots, tachikoma, nanoswarms, lolis, space crabs, etc.

    Also, it's a bit closer to Global Frequency than Delta Green, but there's nothing stopping you from playing it like that.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:34 No.5622227
    More like "the characters are whatever you want".

    If you want to create a homosexual pink haired suburban gangster with the body of a chimpanzee and a dick the size of a shotgun, you can.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:35 No.5622232
    It's released for free under creative commons...

    I'm uploading it to mediafire right now. It's like 50% done.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:36 No.5622244
    Cool shit, but too post-human for me.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:36 No.5622245
    >Oh no it's not 40k/D&D/WW it must be viral!
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:39 No.5622271
    Then roll Jovian and spend your time hunting down them hippie freaks!
    >> The Bearded Bear 08/28/09(Fri)00:39 No.5622274
    Already finished planing a game.
    Running "BLAME!" under this system.
    There will be custom stuffs.
    Got four players interested.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:39 No.5622275
    Seems interesting...Not sure though. I am far to afraid it would degenerate into horrible fetishes.
    >> Cirno 08/28/09(Fri)00:40 No.5622288
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    Don't say shit like that! Now you know someone in the first game run is going to do that, just to be an ass....
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:41 No.5622308
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    Well... I'm almost interested. But I'd rather just go with the setting as is in the rulebook, rather than porting the rules to a new setting.
    >> Questing Knigh/tg/uy !!3OliFLeQMTB 08/28/09(Fri)00:42 No.5622311
    If people are mature enough it should be fine.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:42 No.5622325

    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:43 No.5622336
    Sadly if I breached the subject to my group...Yeah, really don't want to send my mind down that path.
    >> Questing Knigh/tg/uy !!3OliFLeQMTB 08/28/09(Fri)00:43 No.5622341
    Oh you!
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:48 No.5622392
    Well, aside from this guy, is there anyone else running this?

    I mean, playing a BLAME! setting is alright and all, I suppose... but it seems you guys are more like "YES! A game we can finally port BLAME! to, at last!"

    Whereas I'm going "Fuck yeah I wanna play eclipse phase so bad!"

    The rules might be the same, but the game would end up totally different.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:51 No.5622433
    I can't run a game worth a damn nor am I familiar with the rules enough to do so. But I would be more than willing to try a hand at playing.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:51 No.5622443
    There's... nothing stopping you from playing it. Yeah, I'm calling viral.
    >> The Bearded Bear 08/28/09(Fri)00:54 No.5622489
    You mean nothing is stopping him except the inability of /tg/ to muster someone willing to GM up?
    Because /tg/ is ranting on and on how they want to play but no one wants to GM this game.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:55 No.5622505
    /tg/ games tend to suck because it immediately attracts about fifty people of the "fuck anything that moves and if it doesn't move, fuck it until it does" persuasion.
    >> The Bearded Bear 08/28/09(Fri)00:58 No.5622535
    Oh I don't know...
    I must be lucky.
    Two /tg/ dedicated games so far and only sensible people actually interested in making this a joined storytelling experience.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)00:59 No.5622547
    Nobody's running the game. Unless you were recommending I play by myself...

    Hell, the hardcopy of the game isn't even out yet, so I can't even play local either. At least, not without everyone having laptops and bringing them all over to game night. ['cause that'd end well. One thing I've learned, laptops and players DO NOT MIX.]
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:01 No.5622564
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    Thread needs more pictures.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:02 No.5622573
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    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:15 No.5622733
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    I'd be willing to run a game of this, but I've never DM'd online before (or even played online, for that matter.) I'd have no idea where to start
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:15 No.5622739
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    >> The Bearded Bear 08/28/09(Fri)01:16 No.5622748
    You start by getting an IRC client and a dice bot...
    This is the bare bones approach but it works surprisingly well.
    You don't even need to register a channel.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:18 No.5622773
    Man, what are you doing here, Maleatu Shakor?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:19 No.5622789

    There's a couple different things there.

    From what I've heard EP would work in Fantasy Grounds. Don't know about the others.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:19 No.5622791
    I don't care if you're a shitty DM, as long as you aren't a flaker, I'm up for a game.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:20 No.5622798
    What they said.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:22 No.5622828
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    >This thread

    Damn it.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:33 No.5622947
    Never knew stuff like fantasy grounds and openrpg existed...

    downloaded fantasy grounds now
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:48 No.5623084
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    So..Did some one volunteer to run this?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:50 No.5623099
    lol cuntface
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    I wish.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:53 No.5623136
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    More crazy critters.

    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:54 No.5623144
    Also, is there any way I could hitch a ride, to watch this thing go down? I've been looking at the pdf for a bit, and I am actually intrested in possibly playing it, though i'm a total nonPnP gamer.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:54 No.5623147
    I'm downloading the book, I'd be interested in an online game if this turns out to be as cool as it sounds.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:56 No.5623154
    The game is very shadowrun-esque in some ways.

    I gotta read up more on the hacking. Shit looks interesting.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:56 No.5623157
    Hell, I wouldn't care.

    I haven't finished it yet but it seems interesting enough.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:57 No.5623158
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    Right, I'm the volunteer GM from >>5622733.
    I'll be looking over the rules for the next few days to familiarize myself with the system and such, but I'll start a thread around 8 pm (pacific time) on Monday for players.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:59 No.5623185
    See you there, dawg.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)01:59 No.5623187
    Cool beans.

    Also bitchin' picture.
    >> Devilock 08/28/09(Fri)02:00 No.5623189
    BLAME is the essential design theme for all Eclipse Phase campaigns.
    That is, once you remove that Mary Sue "Killy"
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)02:02 No.5623201
    I'll be there, just to sit in and check it out, though.
    >> Questing Knigh/tg/uy !!3OliFLeQMTB 08/28/09(Fri)02:08 No.5623252
    Ah shit. I want to join, but I'll be away then.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)02:11 No.5623270
    Well, finished checking it out.

    Fantasy Grounds looks like it's only for D&D. OpenRPG on the other hand, could definitely be used for this game.
    >> The Bearded Bear 08/28/09(Fri)02:14 No.5623293
    >Mary Sue...

    Boy. I do not think you know what that word means.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)02:15 No.5623314
    And about *insert random percent figure* of /tg/ is in that boat.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)02:16 No.5623329
    So, this or Shadowrun for a Transmetropolitan game?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)02:30 No.5623469
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    I'll see y'all Monday at 8.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)02:42 No.5623579
    Well... I'm not sure how well shadowrun does the whole transhuman thing, but EP's basically got it nailed.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)02:46 No.5623600
    There's gonna be like, 8 people all lining up to play this thing on monday...

    I hope you guys got characters ready. Because it takes a few hours to go through the entire creation process. [Although 90% of that is going over and adding your gear and skills.]
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)02:51 No.5623644

    They're by the same people - so just pick your preferred mechanic.


    The worst thing about EP is that the equipment lists and tech are about the same as Shadowrun - including the retarded shit like "No you can't use Nanofabricators or reverse engineer the blueprints via disassembly" which is fine for Shadowrun (as it's bleeding edge tech) but ridiculous for EP. There's also some retarded stuff about designs being deliberately flawed (by using exotic and "traceable" elements) as though that would actually do a damn thing.

    But that's very easy to correct. It still should never have happened though. The core cyber- and bioware is a bit mediocre, but hell it'd be easy to convert Shadowrun stuff over.

    Of course, while I haven't investigated exhaustively it doesn't look like Shadowruns painfully cumbersome Matrix rules and punishment for fluff reasons (elves cost more because they're popular, Free Spirits are vastly overpriced) have infected EP - which is really great.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)03:08 No.5623771
    Anyone here go through the rules exhaustively yet? I've been trying to find stuff on the weapon mounts augmentation, and I'm just coming up short. I'm trying to figure out:

    1. Are there any restrictions on what weapons can be mounted?

    2. Does a two-handed weapon mounted in one arm still count as a two-handed weapon and therefore incur a penalty to firing with one arm? What if it were torso mounted instead?

    3. Do I have to smartlink a gun that is effectively already attached to my body?

    4. Do I have to stop and reload [Say every 30 rounds of ammo.] even though my arm-mounted and torso-mounted weapons are essentially belt fed from inside my body?

    5. Can I punch or grab someone, and fire my arm-mounted weapon into them at the same time?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)03:20 No.5623873
    Finally. Science fiction game based on science fiction written this century that isn't fucking GURPS.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)03:38 No.5624047
    >Eclipse Phase is a tabletop roleplaying game of transhuman conspiracy and horror

    ...and psionicks magicks and other fantasy crap!
    >> The Bearded Bear 08/28/09(Fri)03:57 No.5624221
    >ITP: I've seen something I don't really understand nor bothered to read but I'm going to try and troll it anyway.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)04:27 No.5624371
    Hmm, the Psi stuff isn't nearly as bad as it sounds - if you remove the psi-gamma (offense) then the psi-chi (mind buffs) can easily be explained as advanced mental conditioning/programming - an Envoy for example would have:
    Pattern Recognition.
    Instinct - accurate snap judgements.
    Predictive Boost.
    Superior Kinesics.
    Ambience Sense.
    High Pain Threshold.

    Grok is damn good (~40% chance to intuitively understand any *unknown* object - alien, etc - and a +20 to use it) - but should be possible with software.
    >> Questing Knigh/tg/uy !!3OliFLeQMTB 08/28/09(Fri)05:17 No.5624789
    >Pisonicks is Magicks DURR
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)09:46 No.5626843
    Resurrection bump.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)09:52 No.5626870
    Don't you mean "Cortical backup resleeve bump"?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)09:54 No.5626883
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    Pey'j what are you doing here your sequel was cancelled.
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    Now you just KNOW someone went and made xenomorphs on Earth, just because they could.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)12:07 No.5627835
    Why is there a pile of gas masks near that alien? woman?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)12:27 No.5628014
    She's been to /k/ one too many times.
    >> Magus O'Grady 08/28/09(Fri)12:31 No.5628059
    I have to ask: How are the biological technology options for transhumans? As a transhumanist, I have to ask, as I think it's a more effective and economically/environmentally sound approach to augmentation
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)12:42 No.5628169
    You've got a choice between the types of bodies you can get:
    Biomorph - by far the most popular. These are just mass-produced biological bodies.
    Pods - these are seriously altered biological bodies - often grown in seperate parts and placed together. Many are part machine.
    Synths - purely machine. Nothing biological. Just a nice old metal shell.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)12:55 No.5628273
    Apparently suicide fetishists are actually canon in this setting.
    Heck, you could be a vorophilliac and get away with it.
    >> Magus O'Grady 08/28/09(Fri)12:57 No.5628285
    no option for a natural body that's been added to or altered? Hmmmm..... Thanks.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)12:59 No.5628296
    Well, there's a bit...

    Echolocation, enhanced hearing, enhanced vision, enhanced smell, direction sense, eidetic memory, math whiz, multiple personalities, adrenal boost, bioweave armor (light) and (heavy), carapace armor, circadian regulation, claws, clean metabolism, drug glands, eelware, emotional dampers, endocrine control, enhanced pheromones, enhanced respiration, gills, grip pads, hibernation, muscle augmentation, neurachem, poison glands, prehensile feet, prehensile tail, sex switch, skin pocket, temperature tolerance, toxin filters, and vacuum sealing.

    That's just the biological stuff, not including any sort of cybernetic implants, etc. Download the .pdf and flip to page 300, it's where all the gear is listed.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:03 No.5628315
    Natural bodies are called flats. [ie - if you were born naturally, you're a flat.] So if you want to alter a natural body, just pick a Flat and then add on upgrades.

    Splicers are genetically fixed people. No hereditary diseases, genetics optimized for good looks and health, etc. Most of the people in EP are splicers.
    >> The Bearded Bear 08/28/09(Fri)13:03 No.5628322
    No. There are a lot of options.
    If you want to be genetically 100% vanilla human you take the "Flat" biomorph shell and build on it.
    Other biomorphs are either genetically redesigned or non-human. Pods are also mostly based on human genes.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:05 No.5628335
    Thats what I would go for too.
    >> The Bearded Bear 08/28/09(Fri)13:11 No.5628389
    Oh and I forgot: Flats have shit specs, get a real body instead you hobo.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:19 No.5628467
    This sounds interesting, how does a newfag like me get my hands on the corebook?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:20 No.5628478
    Google Eclipse Phase torrents

    No need for any question marks, either.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:20 No.5628480
    A torrent was link in one of the earliest posts, you fag.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:20 No.5628482
    What is real?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:21 No.5628489

    official fully legal torrent.
    >> The Bearded Bear 08/28/09(Fri)13:24 No.5628518
    Something with not shit aptitude limits.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:25 No.5628521
    What is "not shit"?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:26 No.5628525

    that's because by fluff everyone can change bodies like clothing, there no such thing as a natural body
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:28 No.5628541
    i think that was the point he was going for. going against the grain and having just one body.
    >> The Bearded Bear 08/28/09(Fri)13:31 No.5628571
    When your body has the lowest aptitude limits, and you get no bonuses from low stats in these areas, and you get no bonuses from flats whatsoever anything that grants you a bonus is thus better than a flat. A better body neither costs that much nor does it require all that much CP.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:33 No.5628594
    Live in space.


    Pretend you're Amish.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:35 No.5628601
    You, sir, may have an idea there, even if you dont realize it.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:35 No.5628609
    I would have saged for obvious viral if this thing hadn't been released for free. Good show.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:36 No.5628618
    By sticking to one body and one body alone, you deny yourself immortality.

    By sticking with your original body, it's even worse.
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    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:38 No.5628631
    Now that I have read the free copy, I think I will buy a real copy.

    What about the rest of you? Anyone planning on buying this?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:41 No.5628671
    I'm sure some people are. Although I'd like to point out that the .pdf is more up-to-date errata-wise than the book is.

    ie - the physical book is going to have spelling mistakes, etc. that won't be fixed until the next print.
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    Once I read the .pdf and if there's a dead tree copy, then sure.
    >> prawn-chan !!CFme5gJKDTP 08/28/09(Fri)13:42 No.5628678
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    I want to join in this, but I'm a huge noob and it would be my first time.
    >> prawn-chan !!CFme5gJKDTP 08/28/09(Fri)13:47 No.5628721
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    Okay fine everyone stop posting when I say something. T-T
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:48 No.5628734
    I'll bite, what exactly are those supposed to be, Motorunicycles for legs?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:51 No.5628762
    Get over yourself, we're reading the fucking pdf.
    >> !o.trollyDM 08/28/09(Fri)13:52 No.5628767
    There's something wrong with your knees, miss.
    >> prawn-chan !!CFme5gJKDTP 08/28/09(Fri)13:53 No.5628775
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    Why do you always say that?

    Are you really going to bite? Lol?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:54 No.5628794
    Download the PDF, read the rules, and for god sakes MAKE A CHARACTER BEFORE JOINING A GAME, SHIT TAKES AWHILE. I recall someone from earlier in the thread mentioned that he was going to start looking for players for an online game on Monday, so look for a thread then.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)13:55 No.5628803
    >not who you think it is.
    >> prawn-chan !!CFme5gJKDTP 08/28/09(Fri)14:02 No.5628882
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    What do I get to read this file?

    (said I was a noob)
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:03 No.5628895
    Then you're in the same boat as me!
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:04 No.5628906
    Anything that reads .pdf files
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:04 No.5628916
    You....you wanna.....maybe.....watcheachothermasturbate?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:05 No.5628921
    Adobe anything, though Adobe reader is free in a non pirated way.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:05 No.5628929
    I would but I just finished a 30 minute wank session like 5 minutes ago.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:07 No.5628941


    I'd let her accelerate my subatomic particles if you know what I mean
    >> prawn-chan !!CFme5gJKDTP 08/28/09(Fri)14:09 No.5628968
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    Oh sorry, lol.

    This is good to know! :3

    I don't have Adobe Reader, and firefox is not doing it. :/ Any other suggestions? Otherwise I will just download adobe reader.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:10 No.5628973
    I wouldn't. I kinda like my subatomic particles right where they are.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:10 No.5628981
    download adobe reader, it's free.
    >> prawn-chan !!CFme5gJKDTP 08/28/09(Fri)14:12 No.5629011
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    Kay, doing it.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:13 No.5629012

    no, download Foxit reader.

    it's free and it works better.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:15 No.5629046

    Dear Mr. Viral, will you ship through Amazon? Its the only way I can get books in my backwater country.

    Also, obvious viral is obvious but since the game is creative commons its OK
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:17 No.5629063

    Fuck Adobe and it's bloated monstrosity.

    Foxit ftw. Lightweight pdf reader is lightweight.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:22 No.5629142
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    Splicer with math whiz, eidetic memory, hyper linguist, circadian regulation, emotional dampers bioware augmentations; multi-tasking, skillware, and skinlink cyberware/nanoware augmentations; and is wearing body armor (light).
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:24 No.5629173
    I liked Front Mission 4. It still sucks they brought FM5 over from Japan.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:26 No.5629196
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:29 No.5629255
    Well, a quick check on EP's website shows it's selling at:


    That's the only place I know of selling the hardcopy right now. It's been out for like... less than a week so far, so you're probably not going to find many other sellers with it in stock, I'd imagine.
    >> Magus O'Grady 08/28/09(Fri)14:30 No.5629268
    It's been said before, but screw adobe. Inferior crap. Go get Foxit reader. Free, lightweight, and free. Did I mention Free? I've had 75 .PDFs open in Foxit simultaneously without any system lag from the program.

    I ask about organic tech because I enjoy the thought of engineered symbiotes augmenting humans. I've actually designed several that I've put forth to several Transhumanist communities and they've agreed that they're good ideas.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:30 No.5629271
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    Ghost with Direction sense, echolocation, enhanced hearing and smell, carapaace armor, claws, prehensile tail, and numerous others.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:36 No.5629345
    Wow...I am surprised this thread is still up...And now wondering if I'll be able to get in on that game on Monday.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:38 No.5629372
    You know... I think I'm gonna stat one of these guys up.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:41 No.5629409
    Someone did in another thread. I was looking for acid blood, I swore I saw it, but it might be one of nanotoxin things just refluffed.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)14:55 No.5629575
    I just tried Foxit it. All this time I thought my computer was just shit because adobe wouldn't run pdf's smoothly sometimes.
    >> Magus O'Grady 08/28/09(Fri)15:06 No.5629694
    Well, there you go. To hell with proprietary crap that doesn't work right. I've got Foxit, GIMP, and OpenOffice.org. That's all I need.

    So there's no options for vanilla humans with genetically engineered symbiotes augmenting them?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:07 No.5629705
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:18 No.5629819
    'Flats' are normal humans, but have poorer stats comparatively.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:19 No.5629836
    There's nothing stopping you from using mods/nanos on a flat and making them symbiotes/fluffing it however you like. But I don't see a mechanical way to do it that I see.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:21 No.5629850
    Herp, i'm not paying attention to what I type, either.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:26 No.5629905
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    Background: Xenomorph
    Faction: Xenomorph
    Morph: Xenomorph [Ghost]
    Gender Identity: Xenomorph
    Actual Age: Xenomorph
    Current Moxie Points: 3
    Motivations: +For The Swarm, +Extreme Violence, +Facehuggers

    BASE: COG 5 / COO 20 / INT 20 / REF 25 / SAV 10 / SOM 20 / WIL 5
    MORPH: +10 COO / +5 REF / +10 SOM / +5 WIL / +5 COG
    TOTAL: COG 10 / COO 30 / INT 20 / REF 30 / SAV 10 / SOM 30 / WIL 10

    Moxie: 3 / Trauma Threshold: 4 / Lucidity: 20 / Insanity Rating: 40 / Wound Threshold: 12 / Durability: 60 / Death Rating: 90 / Initiative: 100 / Speed: 2 (3) / Damage Bonus: 6

    Armor: 11/11

    Melee Weapons:
    Skill: / AP: -1 / DV: 1d10+9 / Notes:

    Traits: Danger Sense, Improved Immune System (2), Limber (2), Pain Tolerance (2), Rapid Healer, Situational Awareness, Tough (3)

    Morph Augmentations: Adrenal Boost, Grip Pads, Direction Sense, Echolocation, Enhanced Hearing, Enhanced Smell, Carapace Armor, Circadian Regulation, Claws, Clean Metabolism, Drug Glands, Endocrine Control, Enhanced Respiration, Hibernation, Muscle Augmentation, Neurachem (2), Prehensile Tail, Temperature Tolerance, Toxin Filters, Vacuum Sealing, Acid Blood*
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:26 No.5629909
    Jumping bodies is for faggots.

    Augmenting your first one forever is where it's at.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:29 No.5629942
    Where the fuck is acid blood? I've been looking around, and I see nothing.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:31 No.5629962
    There's an entire bioware category of augmentations.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:34 No.5630002
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    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:35 No.5630016
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:36 No.5630027
    >15 hours too late
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:37 No.5630038
    It's not in the book near as I could tell, which is why I put the * beside it.

    It's not hard to add Acid Blood to the game though... There's already a chemical called Scrapper's Gel that works like an acid. [albeit in gel form] It does 1d10+5 damage per turn.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:40 No.5630074
    Ah, thanks, it was driving me insane looking. Although, scrapper's gel + a eelware mod would make you able to splash it about whenever you wanted.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:40 No.5630077
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    402 glossy, color, high quality pages filled with artwork, with all the rules needed to run an entire campaign as well as DM it.

    And it's a hardcover.

    For 50 bucks.

    I think I'm buying this. It's a better deal than PHB+DMG, if only because it's both those combined into one.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:45 No.5630123
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    Here's one of the few spaceships in the game. The Large Lander and Orbit Transfer Vehicle [LLOTV].

    Mostly used for transfering cargo around the neighborhood of a planet. [ie - it won't go from Earth to Mars, but it will go from Earth to the Moon.]

    Also: http://www.firewall-darkcast.com/wiki/welcome-firewall-dcs-wiki

    Apparently official wiki for the game so people can add stuff they come up with or something.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:46 No.5630137
    I'm not sure what's more appealing to me.

    Ultimate Genehacker obsessed with creating the perfect master morph?
    Argonaut Negotiator desperately trying to unite humanity against other threats that be?
    Mercurial AGI that refuses to inhabit any sleeve other than neotenics?

    Oh, the choices!
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:50 No.5630175
    Campaign idea:
    A party composed of entirely the same character that has forked himself, made copies of himself, and then downloaded them into different bodies.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:53 No.5630200
    So I won't lie I read the intro story bit and then dived right into the crunch. How is the fluff looking? I am still running through the crunch and the like I am just curious as to what factions and the like people are finding interesting.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:54 No.5630213
    Fuckin made me pop a boner.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:55 No.5630227
    Someone is kidnapping a hypercorp's employees and fitting them with puppet socks, then using them to do who knows what on the inside. So far, a few have been stopped, and a few have been caught before anything untoward happened, but who knows how many more are floating around, and for what reason?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:56 No.5630229
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    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)15:57 No.5630241
    Fuck the hypercorps.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:00 No.5630265
    The fluff is surprisingly interesting.

    There's enough things left open storywise that you don't feel restricted in how you can run an adventure. The Pandora Gates let you explore exoplanets, Earth presents the opportunity for classic dungeon crawling, the various habitats and communities in the rest of the system allow for corporate hijinks, and there's all kinds of stuff from the exsurgent virus, TITAN remnants, and aliens that can come along and fuck shit up.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:03 No.5630296
    Factions include:
    Anarchistic left-wing nuts
    Techno-progessive good guys
    Martian rednecks
    Armchair anarchist obsessed with piracy - basically, a 4channer
    Hypercorporate snob
    Moon-dwelling Earth-obsessing reclaimers
    "Fuck off, I want an octopus" outcasts who don't give a shit about transhumanity
    Scummers who live on gigantic space barges who are in the perfect position to take advantage of the post-apocalyptic solar system.
    Socialite faggots.
    Autonomists who actually acheive shit on the moon known as Titan.
    "WE WILL CREATE THE TRANSHUMAN MASTER RACE" freakshows. Nazi super-scientists except in the future.
    The conversative, paranoid shits that live on Venus.

    I think I listed all of the factions.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:05 No.5630313
    Scumborn + Titanian = awesome (???)
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:09 No.5630349
    Venusians = god tier
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:09 No.5630357
    A kid born and raised on a shitty spacebarge who goes on to be a part of the socialist cyberdemocracy of the Titanium Commonwealth?

    ... Yeah, that sounds pretty awesome.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:13 No.5630390
    Whast ist dis Tantium Commonwealth youst speask ove?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:16 No.5630413
    Sure, untill one of those puppet socked drones blows up you and everyone you're running with with a combonation high explosive/nanoswarm that eats flesh. You lost a year of your life before they would released your ego from quarantine. Enjoy.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:16 No.5630416
    People on titan but no one on europa?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:17 No.5630428

    Cool beans then. Thanks. Gonna go off and destroy my eyes by reading it all.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:18 No.5630435
    There's like 2 million people or something living on Europa.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:18 No.5630437
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    Sounds neat.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:19 No.5630443
    Main Stations: Titan
    Memes: Technosocialism, Cyberdemocracy
    Titan was originally settled in the late 21st century by a European academic consortium, making it the only major body in the system colonized primarily by non-hypercorp interests. The social organization of Titan is rooted partly in the Scandinavian social democracies of Earth and partly in the open economy. On one hand, citizens of the Titanian Commonwealth eschew the use of currency for mundane needs, participating in the reputation economy used by much of the outer system. On the other, upon reaching the age of majority, citizens of Titan agree to a literal social contract. A portion of their economic productivity is quantized as social money, which is then tithed to microcorp-administered social projects such as gateless interstellar exploration, physics research, neuroscience, developing mental health memes, defense, public resleeving, and habitat construction. The monetary unit used for this purpose, the Titanian Kroner, is currently pegged to the common market price of a terabyte of qubits.
    Unlike old Earth socialist regimes, there are no state monopolies and no central planning. Anyone able to garner enough votes in the Plurality (the Titanian cyberdemocracy) can start a social money-funded microcorp and compete with other microcorps.
    Microcorps are owned by the Commonwealth, and profits are disposed of by the Plurality. Microcorps are required to be transparent as administrative entities, and the Plurality votes on whether to transfer discoveries to the open source domain. Regulatory matters are handled by AI and AGI bureaucrats (red tape still exists, but it doesn’t slow things down … much). The main reward for individuals in this system is rep. Titanians who invest a lot of time or resources in a given field gain rep rewards for doing so.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:24 No.5630479
    Sounds like /k/'s worst nightmare.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:33 No.5630550

    sign me up
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:51 No.5630722
    /k/ would absolutely love the Jupiter Junta.

    Large enough that it could almost have formed the nucleus of a protostar in its own right, Jupiter’s massive size makes the Jovian System one of the most challenging places in the system to colonize. Jupiter’s powerful magnetic eld means that its inner moons—and the outer ones, when their orbits pass through its immense magnetotail—are bombarded with enough ionizing radiation to kill transhumans not protected by the heaviest of shielding within a matter of hours. There are sixty-three moons and moonlets in the Jovian system, but only the well-explored, populous, regular moons are described here.

    Jupiter’s powerful gravity well is a major hindrance to gas mining in the planet’s atmosphere, as even craft that do not succumb to the violent, centuries-long atmospheric storms can achieve escape velocity with only the most powerful propulsion systems. Given the need for heavy shielding on such craft, gas mining on Jupiter is not nearly as ef cient as on Saturn. Jupiter has a tenuous ring system, much less dense than Saturn’s, which extends out for 20,000 kilometers around the planet, encompassing the orbits of its two closest moonlets. However, Jupiter’s gravity is also a valuable resource. Craft bound for Saturn and beyond can slingshot themselves outward by circling the planet to pick up velocity, cutting months or years off their trips. The heavily militarized Jovian Republic levies tolls against all spacecraft using Jupiter’s gravity to pick up velocity, including asteroids under propulsion. This protection money is the Junta’s primary source of revenue. Planetary Consortium ships generally accept the payment as part of operating expenses. Other factions are not so cooperative, and the Junta regularly seizes or destroys blockade runners.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:52 No.5630732
    Most of Jupiter’s moons are really captured asteroids, lacking the size and geological complexity of planetary bodies. All are occupied. Some were converted to habitats; others host only Junta military and mining outposts. The Jovian moonlets consist mostly of carbonaceous rock, poor in metal, with some of the larger moonlets having layers or even cores of ice. Beehive habitats and Reagan cylinders predominate in the Jovian system. Reagan cylinders (called “sarcophagus habs” by every other faction) are an inef cient variation on the O’Neill cylinder in which excavators hollow out an immense, cylindrical cavern in a rocky asteroid and then alter the asteroid’s rotation with external thrusters to simulate gravity. Other habitat types are rare in Jovian orbit, especially within 2 million kilometers of the planet, where the radiation is strongest. For a bioconservative faction unwilling to adopt radiation-resistant morphs, the Junta is in a poor location. Shielding their populace beneath tons of rock is a necessity. Despite its military hegemony, the Junta can’t control all of Jovian space, and there are things it can’t do on its own—like exploring Europa. A number of unaligned habitats and surface settlements exist in the ring system and the orbits of the Galilean moons. The Jovian Republic has renamed Jupiter’s moons after various neo-conservative heroes from Earth’s history. From closest to most distant, the moonlets are Metis (Bush), Adrastea (Fairway), Amalthea (Solano), Thebe (McAllen), Leda (Chung), Himalia (Pinochet), Lysithea (Friedman), Elara (Buckley), Ananke (Nixon), Carme (Kissinger), Pasiphae (Schilling), and Sinope (Garcia). All are tiny, between 5 and 100 kilometers in diameter.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:55 No.5630777
    Oh, you silly, silly Jovians.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)16:59 No.5630810
    Jovian Republic
    Memes: Bioconservatism, Fascism, Security
    Main Stations: Liberty (Ganymede)
    Exploiting the chaos of the Fall, a group of stations and habitats were seized in a military coup and the Jovian Republic was born. Combining terrestrial South American dictatorship with U.S. American political lobbyism, this regime quickly brought the entire Jovian military-industrial complex under its control.
    Widely referred to as the Jovian Junta by the rest of the outer system, the Republic’s authorities hold a strict bioconservative stance against many transhuman scientific and technological developments.
    Exploiting fears engendered by the Fall, the Republic restricts access to sophisticated technologies such as nanofabrication, cloning,
    forking, and even uploading, and is one of the few old economies left in the system. Public communication channels are subjected to extensive censorship and travel privileges are extremely limited. Both uplifts and AGIs are strictly forbidden and treated as property without civil rights. Diplomatic relations to progressive factions remain cold; heavily-modified transhuman emissaries or visitors are viewed with suspicion at best, or simply denied access. Despite continuous reports of heinous acts of government oppression, the Republic’s intimidating military assets keep any other factions from intervening.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:00 No.5630827
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    The largest of the moonlets, hollow Amalthea is probably the most livable sarcophagus habitat due to the large lake created from its icy core. Living on Solanocarries some prestige among Junta citizens. Rumor hasit that most of the residents are well-placed RAND think tank personnel, most of whom work on defense projects. A fusion-powered axial light tube illuminates the 30-kilometer diameter central cavern, whose landscape is patterned after the subdivisions and office parks of an early 21st-century suburb. All buildings have envirosealing so that the occasional bouts of environmental sepsis resulting from the poorly regulated interior ecosystem can be purged with toxin bombs. Less fortunate support personnel dwell in the beehive warrens crisscrossing the moonlet’s crust between cavern and surface. Like most of Jupiter’s moonlets, Amalthea’s space crawls with patrol craft and killsats, making approach for unauthorized craft problematic at best. 1.5 million transhumans live on Solano.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:07 No.5630904
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    That sounds pretty nice, actually.

    BRB, going to Titan.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:08 No.5630918
    Play Eclipse Phase
    Success nerd.jpg
    Be the little girl
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:10 No.5630936
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    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:12 No.5630948

    Learn to /rs/ moron. Look for the one that's 39mb.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:13 No.5630953
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    Your egocasting from Earth to Titan is now complete.
    Unfortunately, this is the only sleeve that is currently available.
    Enjoy your stay.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:15 No.5630972

    That is a fairly badass looking midget. I suppose it will do fine until I find another more suitable body.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:15 No.5630982
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    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:16 No.5630993
    Titan's a technological utopia. You could just get a new body nanofabricated or vat-grown.

    Assuming you've got the rep.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:19 No.5631024
    So what are you transhumanis/tg/entle folks planning on playing as?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:19 No.5631028
    Otherwise, you just get shoved into a mass-produced Case or a shitty little Flat like the one in that image.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:25 No.5631096
    Trying to think of a good one.

    Interesting backgrounds:
    Hyperelite (Spoilt kid from a hypercorporate family)
    Infolife (Partially illegal highly intelligent A.I.)
    Uplifted (An avian, homonid or octopus brought to sentience)

    Interesting factions:
    Argonaut (techno-progressive scientists)
    Titanian (cybersocialist scientists)
    Ultimate (hyper-progressive transhumanists)

    I just can't piece together a character after that, though. So many opportunities.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:25 No.5631097

    That would be the plan, my man.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:26 No.5631101
    Which should be a little easier in a ripped midget body.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:27 No.5631123
    I'm going for a Scumborn + Titanian, but having a little trouble figuring out motivations beyond fame (yay rep economy).
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:28 No.5631128
    spess scandinavia, do they get vikings too?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:29 No.5631148
    Habitats in Sol’s corona face challenges more extreme
    than those faced by habs anywhere else in the system.
    Transhumanity’s only means of shielding a habitat
    from the heat and radiation emitted by a G2 star is to
    generate strong electromagnetic elds. Even then, the
    dangers posed by solar ares and coronal mass ejections—
    massive explosions that jettison coronal material
    tens of thousands of kilometers out into circumsolar
    space—mean that the Sun’s polar regions are the only
    safe space in which to position habitats. As such, circumsolar
    habs require extraordinary expense to build
    and maintain, and two of the three major circumsolar
    habitats are heavily backed by distant organizations.
    The outer layers of circumsolar habitats are covered
    with thousands of electromagnetic dynamos drawing
    power from the sun itself. These dynamos generate
    the powerful elds necessary for shielding. Within
    are intermediate layers lled with liquid water that
    captures ionized particles, teeming with nanites that
    collect the ions and vent them into space. The water
    must be regularly replaced from captured iceteroids
    that are imported using heavy electromagnetic shielding
    of their own. Within the water shield is a cluster
    habitat, an array of modules on a framework following.
    a roughly spherical plan
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:31 No.5631169

    Not sure, yet. There are just so many neat looking possibilities.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:32 No.5631190

    ... what's the point of building a hab in the fucking sun?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:36 No.5631218
    To get tanned.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:36 No.5631220
    No - they're pretty much based off of modern Scandanavia. Less vikings, more functioning socialism.
    I think I have an idea. Titanian Infolife hackwhore. As in, motherfucking everything goes into being the best hacker 'n jacker ever. Probably gonna start off with an Arachnoid sleeve.
    Personality will probably mimick that of the blue braincase of GLaDOS from Portal.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:40 No.5631274
    Ghosts and furies both look fun. The Xenomorph from earlier in the thread, or mayhaps a futuretechPreadator knock off. Or go swarmanoid and piss people off with hacking metal bees.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:42 No.5631305
    You're doing it wrong.

    Morphs are exchangable. Seriously, fuck your morph. Forget it. Make your character's mind, don't focus on customizing that shell.
    Your charcter will DIE. The morph will become useless. Prepare to buy another when you resleeve and don't get fucking attached.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:46 No.5631370

    Yes, the morph is just a shell that can (and will) be replaced, but that doesn't mean that a character won't have preferences for their morph.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:48 No.5631387
    I've got an AGI with a bad case of amnesia written up.

    Has a combat Synth body, specialized in intrusion/hacking software and combat; on the run from a corporation but doesn't know why because its memories had been edited. Feels right at home in Synth forms, but is extremely lacking at social interactions, and is otherwise completely naive when it comes to the real world.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:48 No.5631399
    Yeah, but your primary focus appears to be on the morph, not on the character itself.

    Imagine you're playing D&D. You ask your friend:
    "What kind of character you thinking of playing?"
    He responds:
    "Oh, I'm thinking about playing Full Plate but I guess Studded Leather's good as well."

    That's what you're doing in this situation.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:50 No.5631414
    Also, I've got the background as Mercurial for the character, but I don't know who/what faction I should have hunting them down just yet.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:52 No.5631432
    I am in your boat currently don't even know where to start.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)17:56 No.5631471

    AGI with a Reaper body.

    He's a pool boy. He does a lot of wet work.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:06 No.5631589
    I would highly recommend for anyone who wants to keep their character relatively sane, that they take 15-20 points in WIL.

    A WIL of 10 for instance, results in a trauma threshold of 4, and Lucidity of 20. There are some things that can cause 2d10+10 in stress damage. If this number exceeds your trauma rating you develop temporary mental trauma, like disorientation. As well as a temporary derangement. [Things like: Anxiety, Dizziness, Tremors, Panic, etc.] Additional trauma points inflict more derangement's, or upgrade them from minor to moderate to major. If you get 4 trauma points, you automatically get a semi-permanent disorder that can take weeks/months to recover from. [These include Bipolar Disorder, Insomnia, OCD, Schizophrenia, etc.]

    If your total stress points go over your lucidity rating, you have a mental breakdown and are unable to do anything, basically curling up into a ball.

    If your stress points go over your insanity rating you go insane and your mind is gone. For good.

    So with a few decent hacker attacks, or seeing something unsettling, a character with low WIL can go from perfectly normal to permanently insane.

    Granted, if you're doing it right, you can just give up on yourself and go back to your last backup.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:14 No.5631673
    I had an idea for a character named "Firewall" Fred. He's a Special Ops Assassin/Hacker. Basically, he only has one Backup of himself in reserve. This way when he dies, his information dies with him, making it impossible to torture the info out of him or hack it.

    The only catch is that he always has to start from scratch when he dies again. Meet the entire crew over again, learn to love family all over again, forget who your enemies are, etc. Kinda like Groundhogs' Day in space.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:19 No.5631720
    That sounds like it would be incredibly taxing mentally after a time.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:22 No.5631755
    So to sum up, a hacker rolls 2d10+10 for 23 stress damage.

    This is over the lucidity rating for our WIL 10 character. So they immediately lose all touch with world around them and seize up. In addition to that, with only a trauma threshold of 4, the character takes 5 points of trauma damage. [23 damage divided by 4, rounded down.]

    Each trauma point gives the character a -10 modifier on all actions. Further, they must now roll to avoid disorientation from the trauma, which is WIL X 3 [30] + Modifiers [-50] = -20. For each disorientation save the character fails, they have to spend one complex action phase collecting themselves together. ie - this character is now out of the loop for 5 turns.

    Each trauma point also causes a derangement. This is left up to the GM to decide which ones and how severe. We'll go with one major derangement (3 trauma points) causing Hysteria and one moderate derangement [2 trauma points] causing Panic.

    Now since we've taken more than 4 trauma damage, a disorder is also applied. At least you can only get one disorder at a time, unlike with derangement's. This is also left up to the DM to decide, but we'll go with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

    And now you're done taking stress damage. Also your character is fucked in the head. N'joy.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:25 No.5631792
    >Himalia (Pinochet)

    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:27 No.5631815

    I have'nt cracked the PDF yet, too tired now, but i'm wracking up ideas for later, to see if they stick.

    I've got one for a Biomorph or Synth in the form of a giant red centipede who acts and sounds suspiciously like Adam Corrolla.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:30 No.5631853
    Sounds like it'd work well as a Slitheroid.

    The morph types right now are kinda limited, to be honest. Most of them only consider the human shape as a viable design. Although fans are working on reverse engineering the morph costs so you can create your own.

    Right now they've got biomorphs adequately modeled: http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=470503

    Although it still considers you as a human/human shaped.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:31 No.5631880
    No need for that. You can selectively edit and remove your own memories.

    In fact, the first part of the .pdf has a short story where exactly this happens.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:32 No.5631892
    Fund it.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:38 No.5631949

    Neat. Yeah, I was wondering how far they were going to go with the available morphs, but i'm glad to see people working on it.

    I also have an old Captain with a bioeye to replace his lost human one, along with some upgrades to regular human form. He's kind of a luddite/old fogey, but not an extremist by any extent.

    I also have another Captain who has lost his sense of humanity after being cryofrozen for some reason and waking up to, well, THIS. He's highly depressed but springs into action when the crew needs him.

    Then there's the Tacticool-Junky who spends most of his days in Team Deathmatches in specially-built arenas, where the combatants simply get killed and then loaded back into a new body round after round.

    I also have some other ideas but they're more villianous than most groups would allow.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:44 No.5632024

    Glad you like it.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:47 No.5632076
    >Then there's the Tacticool-Junky who spends most of his days in Team Deathmatches in specially-built arenas, where the combatants simply get killed and then loaded back into a new body round after round.

    Unreal tournament? :P
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)18:51 No.5632118

    Moar like ACTUAL Tournament, amirite?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:01 No.5632220
    >forward-thinking designers
    develop new designs every month and use copy
    protection on these designs to keep them from being
    pirated for at least a month or two

    I found this amusing.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:04 No.5632242

    Not real immortality - if this is a hard SF setting than all you're doing is making copies. It'd just be more likely to extend your one body's lifespan through nanotech and superdrugs.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:10 No.5632295
    Yeah, you guys are right. I feel kinda stupid now. Anyway, Gatecrasher/salvager, kind of a risktaker because going to alien worlds with little to no backup is pretty ballsy, good with wetwork/small unit taticool stuff. He's an ass outside the job, though, and a bit of a drinker. Plus sometimes he likes getting sleeved in a octomorph and playing "tentacle raep". So, better?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:17 No.5632362

    Damn, this setting really does make you think :/

    This is too hard, let's play D&D.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:20 No.5632384

    Transhumanist IRL so I think about this shit a lot.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:22 No.5632410
    Here's something I'm trying to figure out.

    Now a Synth comes without any armor as standard. So if I've got a Slitheroid and it has 8/8 armor rating, I can theoretically put on Heavy Body Armor [13/13] for a total of 21/21, and then apply fireproofing and refractive glazing for a total of 26/21.

    But... I can also upgrade the Slitheroid's armor with Synthmorph Heavy Combat Armor. Which upgrades it from 8/8 to 16/16. [Quote: "It increases the bot’s
    built-in Armor to 16/16."]

    On page 194 under Layered Armor:
    "If two or more types of armor are worn, the armor ratings are added together. However, wearing multiple armor units is cumbersome and annoying. Apply a –20 modifier to a character’s actions for each additional armor layer worn Note that items specifically noted as armor accessories—helmets, shields, etc.—do not inflict the layered armor penalty, they simply add their armor bonus. --==Note also that the armor inherent to a synthetic morph or bot’s frame does not constitute a layer of armor (i.e., you may wear armor over the synthetic shell without penalty)."==--
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:23 No.5632419
    The important bit is at the end there.

    I'm basically wondering if this means I can take a Slitheroid with 8/8 armor, upgrade to heavy combat armor so it's 16/16, and wear heavy body armor over the shell to bring it up to 29/29 then apply the fireproofing and glazing for 34/29 armor total, all without taking any penalties on any actions.

    For armor/damage comparison an assault rifle has -6 AP and does 2d10+6 damage. The average damage [after the AP modifier] is 17. So 17 vs 23. ie - it doesn't do anything.

    A sniper railgun has -15 AP and does 2d10+ 12 damage, with an average of 23 after penetration. So 23 vs 14 which does 9 damage and causes 1 wound. The Synth in question has a durability of 65, so it'd take on average 7.2 railgun shots to incapacitate the armor. Although probably only 4-5 to heavily disable it. [-10 modifier on all actions per wound]

    tl;dr Do you think this is reasonable within the rules?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:24 No.5632427
    The first IRL bio/borg-attachment to humans will be a cellphone. Grafted into your arm. For a lot of people it already is almost part of their hand.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:25 No.5632444

    It does look that way.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:31 No.5632496

    To the guy who's making the Xenomorph, don't forget they use their tails as melee weapons too, I believe it has 2 uses:

    * A stealth attack from the shadows (it's has a much longer reach than their claws,and is quiter than acid spit), usually when the xenomorph is gripping the ceiling above the prey.

    * The tail paralyses, which is how they capture individual prey to be taken and impregnated.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:33 No.5632506
    >quiter than acid spit

    Quit right.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:34 No.5632514
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    Actually if it's hard sci-fi then copies ARE you. There's no soul or spirit - the only difficulty comes from our imperfect understanding of identity. Pic related - I'm gonna play that bastard if I get a chance.

    Of course in Hard Sci-fi (reality for example) there is no such thing as Immortality.

    But, preserving the track of consciousness *is* the only way to upload the original "you" onto a computer substrate - and while they make a song and dance about it, if you read the section on uploading and the Ego Bridge then you'll see that it is sustained. (though not in quite the elegant method I'd prefer)

    Basically it scans your mind and creates an inactive model of it in the computer - then slowly over the course of a few hours it redirects your nerve impulses to the computer model (destroying them, because it's different to a copy) so that "you" slide out of your meatbrain onto a digital copy of it. (I prefer nanobot substitution of neurons rather than redirection)

    Then you get a nanofab, do a Desty Nova and create the closest thing to immortality that you can - multiple copies going off in all directions.
    House of Suns is a good example of this in action and plot, as is Battle Angel Alita (there've been 10 active Novas out of thousands of autoclones - most dead now - and still a copy of Nova MIA).
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:36 No.5632524
    Dude... this makes me wonder how many railgun shots my character could take...

    Let's see, I've got 45 durability, 13 armor, wound threshold of 9...

    The AP modifier on the Railsniper reduces my armor to -2, so in otherwords, nothing. And then I take an average of 23 damage... which is double my wound threshold, so 2 wounds, giving me -20 on actions and causing me to bleed 40 points of damage every minute.

    So I'm dead inside of a minute with one shot, and definitely dead if I'm shot twice.

    Lovely. I can definitely see the attraction in keeping updated backups around.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:36 No.5632526

    more likely a tiny implant connected to your inner ear, instead of soundwavess it transmits vibrations directly into your ear's workings.

    (assuming the radio waves aren't likely to harm your brain)
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:39 No.5632553
    Well... it looks like combat is pretty damn lethal.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:43 No.5632584
    Should provide interesting points in getting resleeved. Go from bitchin' combat morph to...A flat. Fuck.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:47 No.5632627
    Good god, fund it.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:50 No.5632646
    Don't confuse hard science with reality; hard science is that which is provable, reality is that which is. It just so happens that these coincide a lot, but that doesn't necessarily negate the possibility of something that is real but unprovable.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:53 No.5632673
    So are there people who consider transfer to be a lie?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)19:59 No.5632731
    Well, I'm looking at the various damage outputs for weapons, and you pretty much need anti-armor stuff to kill that Synth.

    Normal weapons/ammo definitely won't cut it. Need to load up on armor piercing stuff: AP rounds for railguns, AP or Reactive AP for normal kinetics, Plasma Rifles, HEAP or Plasmaburst grenades, etc.

    The morph is basically just over the fine line between what you'd need to kill an infantryman, and what you'd need to kill an APC or light tank.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)20:04 No.5632777
    Jovians are very popular - these are people who refuse to believe in singularity, transhumanism or any of that nonsense. Only good 'bot is a dead 'bot. Get your uplifts and your fancy schmancy "transhumans" out of our habitats. Very few of them really bother with transferring. Wouldn't be surprised if religion's still popular among 'em too.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)20:07 No.5632810

    Yes, they are called "Catholics" and the few hundred of them left are sleeved in Flats.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)20:10 No.5632835

    I forgot about the Jovians - they think that the only way to preserve your... spirit... is to upload via destructive scanning - which is quite obviously wrong, which just emphasizes their irrationality.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)20:23 No.5632913

    I want to be a gatecrasher. The idea of going to other planets exploration and all that just sounds awesome. No idea at all on how to actually make the character or how to give them any history though.

    Also thinking about an infugee that had a deal go sour on him and then had his memory edited so that he has no idea what he even did for it. This made him incredibly bitter when dealing with those who weren't other infugees. Kinda stuck at that point wondering how to get him into a morph and all that though.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)20:29 No.5632961
    You could always NOT give him a morph. Your character can exist entirely in simulspace if you want. Basically acting like a computer or AI, except you're human.

    Maybe even have him ride around in a spare mesh / cortical stack on another character or something.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)20:32 No.5632997

    No no, the character sees nothing wrong with getting Augmented or using Life extension methods.

    It's just what of I know of neurology tells me that the idea of transfer wouldn't work - that it would be a copy of yourself, but the original dies with the body.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)20:32 No.5632998

    The Jovians have a very short shelf life - they'll be left behind technologically, and pretty soon you can expect a viable He3 Gas Giant/Xeno energy tech to be found on the other side of a stable Pandora Gate to destroy their economy. The Factors have a good reason to provide said tech, even.
    Then they will go on a crusade and be comprehensively destroyed, being 25-50% less intelligent (strong, charismatic, willful etc) than the rest of transhumanity. Despite the fact that they have the numbers, and are the least divided - the rest of the system has been watching them for years with a wary eye and would most likely put aside all differences to fight them (them being everyone's enemy).

    Taking them out with a nanoplague/antimatter torpedo strike before hand isn't even that hard - it'd work against any of the powerbases in system and is doable by brinkers (who are the most likely to do it anyway).
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)20:33 No.5633002
    I hadn't thought of that. I am still reading fluff but how would that work out?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)20:40 No.5633061
    I agree. This seems good.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)20:46 No.5633146
    I haven't read the rulles yet, but is it possible to do a distributed consciousness kind of scenario? Original body + N amount of activated bodies forming one mind through a constant wireless connection?
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)20:49 No.5633179
    I like the way they wrote this.

    From the "Microgravity" section:
    >Liquids have little cohesion, scattering into clouds of tiny droplets if released into the air. Drinks come in sealed bulbs or bottles. Food is eaten so that sauces and bits of liquid don’t escape. Blood goes *everywhere*.

    It's not really irrationality as such. That's one of the main philosophical issues in the game: if you make a carbon copy of your brain/thoughts somewhere, which one is actually "you"? What if the original dies? Would deleting a backup copy of yourself be considered murder? Suicide? What if the copy didn't want to be deleted?

    Not to mention that the Jovians presumably believe in the concept of a soul, which adds a whole new level of clusterfuck on top of it.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)20:59 No.5633272
    The rules explicitly say what kinds of modifiers would be present or how you could do something about that. But yes, in theory you could.

    However, keep in mind that all kinds of massive parallel processing/supercomputer systems are extremely prohibited, because they're the kind of thing that lead to Seed AI's. How do the authorities know you're not going to become hyper-intelligent and try to take over the planet? What if you're infected by a TITAN virus?

    Typically people who break rules like that are outright killed - completely. All backups destroyed. Humanity already suffered the loss of Earth at the hands of out-of-control AI, nobody is in the mood to let it happen all over again.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)21:01 No.5633292
    >The rules explicitly say

    Whoops, meant "the rules DON'T explicitly say"
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)21:03 No.5633310
    >All backups destroyed.

    All KNOWN backups.

    If you have the ability to turn yourself into a supercomputer capable of making the hypercorps shit themselves in fear, you're probably also capable of making at least one backup they won't find.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)21:04 No.5633319
    Jupiter-brain BBEG do want O_O
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)21:08 No.5633360
    Made a new thread >>5633355
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)21:08 No.5633366
    They don't joke around with this stuff. If you popped up again you'd be treated no differently than a TITAN virus.

    Enjoy having pretty much every human in the entire world out to get you.
    >> Anonymous 08/28/09(Fri)22:20 No.5634073
    What time would that be for central?

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