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    221 KB Adalbert von Franken of Germany 09/13/09(Sun)19:00 No.5848416  
    In this transitory world, God may only bestow burdens, never graces. Mine is the heaviest of them all.

    Some have called me a power hungry tyrant, some have sneered at my weary semblance, most, more wise, preferred to silence their hearts. Not a single one of them understands... All the blood I've shed, all the despicable diplomatic maneuvers I've concocted , all of it was for Christianity.

    I've seen it in my dreams, the endless hosts of the Golden Horde marching over Europe. I can't allow such future! To fight them, all christians must unite under a single banner, or else we all shall perish.

    Perhaps some day, shall I succeed, History will redeem me. Perhaps not. But what use have I for men's forgiveness? All that matter is the Judgment of the Lord. This is my sine... I will save you all, whether you like it or not!
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    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:04 No.5848451
    Post your immediate family!

    I really love this game. I really do.

    It's just... I can't handle the weird real time thing, the armies, research, the length of time it takes to do anything, and the lack of options to play as my personal favorite wank fetish as the moors of Iberia-

    But damn it, it's a fine game, and the closest I'll ever come to a Romance of the Three Kingdoms 10 set in the West.

    So, uh, how many schizophrenics in your family?
    >> Adalbert von Franken of Germany 09/13/09(Sun)19:14 No.5848565
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    I am reckless and vengeful. The most common disease in my family is depression but my previous marshal became schizophrenic. We are not alone!
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:15 No.5848570
    What game is this?

    I must know.
    >> Sergeant Alexandros II 09/13/09(Sun)19:16 No.5848584

    Crusader Kings.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:16 No.5848592
    >> Shas'o R'myr !!TZikiEEr0tg 09/13/09(Sun)19:18 No.5848608
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    >This is my sine... I will save you all, whether you like it or not!

    This is my cosine...to kill you!
    This is my tangent...to take your spot!
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:20 No.5848624
    Marrying schizophrenics and spawning hunchbacks was the name of my game.

    Also, playing as der Emperor? Is this the middle of the game, or did you start out as him?

    I enjoyed it.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:25 No.5848655
    >This is my cosine

    It's not. :|
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:28 No.5848678
    I started out as Germany already. Adalbert is my second king. I was fucking scared that a poorly done succession would have thrown Europe(as I AM pretty much Europe already) into a sea of shit. Thankfully things went more or less smoothly. So far I've managed to stay the fuck away from that hell known as Jerusalem.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:30 No.5848695
    What's going on in Jerusalem?

    Also, booo playing kings! I always love playing as vassals and counts, and working my way up, or just, playing through my family's fortunes.

    Though maybe that's why I always find gameplay so slow...
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:34 No.5848720
    I haven't played this game, only Victoria and HOI. But I love playing as smaller countries and doing shit that makes the situation completely different than history.

    Better yet is taking something like Texas in 1836 in Victoria, and keeping it independent. Set's all kinds of things in motion that alters history.

    Crusader Kings only stars in Europe/Asia Eastern world? Anything start in the Americas?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:39 No.5848765
    Jerusalem is currently at the hands of the filthy saracens, but my ally, England, is taking care of that and I am just giving off financial support through gifts.

    In one of my earlier games, I played as the Duke of Flanders, roughly during the one hundred year war. I betrayed the french and became England's vassal, helping them to easily conquer France. With his support I though that taking Jerusalem would be a breeze, huge mistake on my part!

    Well, TAKING it was easy, maintaining it was fucking hard. Bubonic and pneumonic plagues screwed up with me. Revolts and heresy all over my middle eastern provinces! Meanwhile James, my liege, decided that he wanted to conquer North Africa and you know of the huge blow on prestige that happens when you do so. His whole kingdom became a mess, when betrayer french dukes allied to Scotland. WHile all that happened on my side, the mongols conquered half of the world. It was a lost game.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:42 No.5848793
    That sounds like an AWESOME game to work to rebuild from!
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:44 No.5848807
    Yeah man. It does. I can't wait to play.

    "Oh no, my French/German/English kingdom has lost all of it's European holdings. Now I'm stuck in Africa. TIME TO TAKE OVER AFRICA!"
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:45 No.5848815
    What is this game? It looks pretty fucking cool.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:46 No.5848824
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:47 No.5848831
    I had funner ones.

    I was playing as the King of Castille, and I was mostly focusing in diplomacy why conquering minor muslin provinces. I tried everything to get Léon to ally with me(we were of similar power and together we could retake the Iberian Peninsula, just like in real History). But the little fag would decline all my offers.

    Suddenly Léon decides to start a private crusade. I thought, "well, nice, if he won't ally to me, I will wait until he overstretch his dominion and then invade him, usurping the title of King of Léon.

    Well, apparently my christian friend took awful strategic decisions and attacked one of the strongest sheikdoms around... Needless to say ,he was getting his ass kicked and some lesser sheikdoms jumped in the conflict, tried to conquer all they cloud, like hyenas.

    Unexpectedly, Aragon, who had just conquered Navarra, started attacking Léon as well. I was like "what the fuck" and decided that I had to make some moves to establish a new equilibrium in the region.

    But I didn't want to risk my armies just yet... So I financially backed Aragon and prayed that they would take Léon's lost territories back to christian rule. Oh god, what mess it became... Léon decided to fight to the last man. I swear they took, lost and retook Asturias like six times.

    To makes things worse, my Briton allies decided to conquer Compostella, that was in the hands of what would become Portugal, further weakening the christian kingdoms(me being the only exception). I had to do something so I sent assassins and successfully killed the Sheik of Granada, stirring up a civil war within the muslin states.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:47 No.5848832

    Wow, you lost ALL of Europe to the Mongols? Damn.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:48 No.5848837
    Still, the emirate of Sevilla was growing too strong now by shallowing some of Granada's vassals. I had no more choices, i would have to dive deep into that pool of shit...

    I took what was left of Léon and directed my attention to Sevilla. the battles were huge, relatively speaking, involving more than 15,000 soldiers but we eventually reached white peace. Meanwhile, Granada miraculously regained it' strength and was quickly matching me in power. I couldn't let that happen so I redirected my weary armies there.

    In the end, I acquired a lot of muslin provinces and it looked like I would finally grasp some stability again. But Granada wouldn't give up no matter what. When a minor Sheikdom declared war on one of my recently conquered provinces, all went to shit once more. 5 of my muslin provinces declared independence and became vassals of Granada.

    With that we reached a stalemate and I offered white peace. It was a huge loss for me because now Granada and Sevilla are potentially stronger than me and I can't do anything about it.

    All my efforts were ruined thanks to the ambition of Léon... But it was dam fun.

    Also, the Brits never lent me a single man. ****ing England.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:48 No.5848839
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    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:51 No.5848869
    Once I get this game downloaded, I'm gonna start playing.

    Where/who should I start as?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:51 No.5848871
    I remember playing victoria as the Confederacy. I took over all all of North America, South America, Europe, Japan, China, and England. Then a rebel took over my capital, and the Confederate States of America became the United States of the Ku Klux Klan.

    So I took over africa.

    This all really happened.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:52 No.5848874
    What the fuck is with Paradox and their complete inability to draw portraits??
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:53 No.5848885
    Start anywhere near pagan or muslin states. Waging war against them costs no prestige and does not require you to claim a title.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)19:58 No.5848940
    So, Africa?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:00 No.5848962
    Yeah, I think Ethiopia is Christian if you want to play as them? Just don't get swamped.

    Awesome. Though, one time, I played as Prussia and managed to make a liberal left wing socialist Germany that proceeded to win the first world war, driving France into becoming a fascist state.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:01 No.5848974
    Nah. Iberian Peninsula, northern Germany, northern scandinavia or Byzantine empire.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:05 No.5849010
    On my current game of Victoria, I started as Texas. I had to cheat at the start, of course, to keep it independent of Mexico and the US.

    But once things started rolling, things began to go well.

    Things remained pretty status quo in the Americas. I didn't pay much attention to the rest of the world, but eventually Prussia took over Denmark.

    Anyway, soon the US and Mexico went to war. Mexico concentrated all of it's soldiers in the Californian area, which the US quickly circled and started closing in on. Now, with all of Mexico's soldiers surrounded by the US, the majority of their land was open for the taking. I made a bee line for Los Angeles. Set up a nice border between me and the States, and then started moving down, taking over a completely defenseless Mexico.

    Once the Confederates rebelled, they somehow allied with the UK, which drew them into war against the US.

    The US took over Canada completely and made satellites of Quebec and Canada, which isn't the entire Canada, only a small area in the East. At the same time, Colombia declared independence, making Vancouver Island way over off the coast of Washington and BC it's own little country.

    Shit is wild.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:07 No.5849029
    Wait, you can't do that in Hearts of Iron 2.. so, which game was it?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:07 No.5849037
    alt history = win
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:08 No.5849048
    If only we can use Moors......................

    Muslim Europe v.s the Buddhist Mongols!
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:10 No.5849062
    Fuck yes it is. I love the larger countries splitting into smaller regions, or countries that never even were. It's so new and exciting.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:11 No.5849082
    Facist California Republic motherfuckers.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:12 No.5849086
    Medieval 2, Total War, despite lack of fluffy events and detailed family system and better representation of alt history in general, had that. My Moors managed to sweep France, while the Timurids boiled North, then swept East. We met in the deserts of Cyrenecia and in the forests of Germany-

    Once. Then the game ended because fucking Medieval 2 ends way too damn fast.

    Victoria: An Empire Under the Sun. There's more than Hearts of Iron from Paradox.


    That's pretty freaking awesome. God damn, Paradox makes such good/bad games.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:12 No.5849089

    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:16 No.5849122
    >Medieval 2

    Not good enuff.
    I need a EK! (Emir Kalifs)
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:16 No.5849124
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:18 No.5849155
    Jihadi Sultans?

    I think there might be a mod for playing muslims, but it's half broken.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:21 No.5849184
    For Medieval Total War I and II

    I always play as the Byzantines. I just love it. We would be so much better off if they had stayed together, but thats not the point.

    So I liked to rape and pillage Italy, assassinate popes, cause mischief untold, you know the drill.
    Then I decided to keep only enough troops back home in Anatolia that would be sufficient for keeping the stinky rag-heads out and then going whole-hog into Europe and make Rome come alive again.
    Would usually work, but then the Mongols would do their thing and it was always a 50/50 then based on how many times we engaged in the field or in sieges.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:21 No.5849189
    In HOI2 I started as the US and collapsed it immediately on purpose. Once the confederates were around I switched to them.

    Took over the entire Eastern third of the country for the Confederacy. Had a massive industrial capacity.

    California had the west. Texas took over the midwest up the Canada and east to Chicago/Michigan. The US looked like a three colored flag.

    Texas had shitloads of oil, so they did pretty fucking awesome, but never expanded outside of the territory they got from the old US.

    California was facist to the extreme, and made inroads into northern Mexico, but they were stopped before long and didn't get much territory.

    I allied with the UK before WW2 broke out, got some good navy tech, and then ended the alliance before Poland was taken over.

    After a while I took Greenland and Iceland from Germany control, and got a few Scandinavian territories, but my European dreams didn't get any further than that.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:22 No.5849198
    EU3. Granada pushes back the Spanish, unites Iberia, and colonizes the New World.

    Strangely, this caused the Venetians to flip out and conquer Russia. So, there's a cosmopolitan Caliphate in the new world as Venetian banker hordes start marching out of the steppes heading for Europe.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:23 No.5849212
    Conquered Russia?
    >> Shas'o R'myr !!TZikiEEr0tg 09/13/09(Sun)20:24 No.5849224

    Spain, Crusaders, and Timurids are where its at.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:27 No.5849249
    I don't fucking know how. Over the course of a century, Venice gets into a shitfest with the Turks, push them out of Eastern Europe, and break a peace with the Ottoman Empire having a piece of Greece, but mostly being on the other side of the Black Sea's strait. Then, the Rus fucked with Venice, and Venice hit back, hard.

    Two centuries later, I glance over as my war with England was coming to a favorable end to see Venice squatting on a vast amount of territory. Something must have gone wrong. Or my room mate was hacking my save files while I wasn't looking? But anyway, Venice is just sitting there with a whole lot of bad boy, probably about to start marching on the Lithuanian blob.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)20:31 No.5849282
    Holy shit.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:11 No.5849811
    I'm thinking of getting into HOI2, but After I installed it (I have the pack with all the expansions) It looked even more daunting than Victoria. Is there a good resource for learning the ins and outs of it?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:14 No.5849864
    Haha, Paradox games' learning curve is fucking insane. But once you get into it...
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:20 No.5849941
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    There is nothing I love more than getting a huge army of the most elite soldiers I can muster, a ton of transports, and the most badass warships I can build. I then procede to sail around the world to attack the most random nation I can think of. One who I have had absolutely no diplomatic contact with at all.

    There is nothing funnier than conquering all of Austrialia with Confederate Shock troopers wearing gasmasks, launching poison gas shells from their artillery while Ironclads at sea lend fire support.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:23 No.5849962
    HoI2 ends too fast, in my opinion. EU is where it's at (haven't played 3 yet). Like >>5849198, I as the Ottomans conquered the New World, leaving Europe to its devices. Spain tool over Western Europe, only to face Russia head-on over what was left of Austria. Instead of expanding into Europe, I decided to leave those two well the fuck alone, and moved to India and Asia. India Went well, Asia... not so much, but I did manage to Muslimize Japan.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:32 No.5850056
    Damn it you guys, you're making me want to play Paradox games stuff again... And I suck at all those games damn it!
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:41 No.5850151
    Yeah, HOI2 is pretty short, even with Armageddon and CORE expanding. So I got into Victoria, but it's pretty limited.

    So right now I'm downloading Crusader Kings, hoping to give that a whorl.

    Maybe EU after I play Crusader's a bit.

    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:43 No.5850169
    Which paradox game is best? Only have played Rome Total War and need a new alt history fix
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:45 No.5850187
    CK -> EU -> Victoria -> HOI

    And you can brought your country.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:46 No.5850202
    Well that depends on what you want. However, if you're still in the mood for Rome, I'd go with that Rome Universalis game that Paradox made.

    Otherwise, Victoria for maximum fuckwithability, Hearts of Iron for best combat model, Europa Universalis for probably the easiest game to get into, and Crusader Kings for "MY KID GOT ANOTHER BITCH PREGNANT THAT STUPID FUCKER WILL NEVER BE A GOOD BISHOP" moments.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:47 No.5850208
    EU3 has more depth than HOI, with more economics and such. HOI has more detailed land and sea combat.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:48 No.5850212

    I'm seeing a distinct lack in alt history going on here.

    I started as the Zulu in Victoria and ended up with some larger South African holdings, but I didn't have the resources to gain colonies, and I couldn't beat the British war machine, so it was a meager existence. Not much of a change in the grande scheme.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:48 No.5850217
    Ck does a great job emulating the medieval world.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:49 No.5850224
    Oh yeah, as Texas I had some Oklahoma territory I'd swindled from the US. Set up the Cherokee nation as a satellite, but those fucking Americans conquered it fast.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:50 No.5850238
    Who here hates the video at the start of Paradox games and deletes it from all the games directories?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:55 No.5850297
    Crusader Kings events are fucking hilarious.

    "A petty wrench claims to have sired your child!"

    Stress leads a character to schizophrenia. "We are not alone!"

    A peasant rebellion cause the food supply to the said province to cease. "That's great news!"
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:58 No.5850335
    Hmmm... An alt history for me?

    Well, I decided to play Persia in Victoria, with the aim of avenging 300 by taking Sparta.

    This ended badly to say the least, as Russia decided to beat the piss out of me while I was barreling through Turkey on my way to Greece. in the end, I was (marginally) successful- Greece was under my iron heel, but rebellion was claiming a full quarter of my provinces.

    Oh, and the British Empire collapsed in India as well for some reason.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)21:59 No.5850342
    Any way I can acquire this without torrenting?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:01 No.5850353
    Same. I dunno how to unblock Listen Port that says is blocked, even though I made sure it wasn't.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:02 No.5850365
    You can buy the games legit and give Paradox (A very tiny company that will really notice lost revenue) a bit of money from gamersgate.com

    Although don't feel bad if you want to pirate the little 10 dollar expansion packs, they are usually nothing more than trumped up updates that the game usually needs.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:03 No.5850378
    Just search for Rapidshares. It will take longer, but it's generally more secure than torrents. Could be faster too if you can't port properly or if there are no seeders.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:05 No.5850394
    Or you could just buy the entire thing in one go.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:05 No.5850397
    Those guys deserve the money.
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    Lets see where can i start...

    On a game in Armageddon (Boosterpack for HoI2) i was playing as prussia with a plan to unite all of central Europe under the Prussian eagle, this worked out quite well, Allied with Empire of russia, then me and russia pretty much RIP AND TEAR all over europe, they take a lot of eastern states while i take over Bourbon, European Soviets, Roma and Denmark from the Swedes

    then a few years down the track Russias all "Hey dawg, i heard you are planning an invasion to USNA, so were gonna invade you"

    the war between the Prussian Empire vs Empire of russia lasted a bloody Twenty years, a long mobile war, with some years one side would just keep going and going, when suddenly it stopped and the other would push forward again and again and again...

    Millions of Prussians gladly gave their lives for the Kaiser and the Fatherland, Never Forget
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:09 No.5850440
    I downloaded it, loved it, bought it. EU3 and HOI2 are cheap anyways, HOI3 is new but still buggy.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:09 No.5850441
    I don't like the bare Armageddon mod. Too few countries with too much power.

    It's so boring.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:13 No.5850472
    One thing I love about Victoria is starting a big nation, then create satellites, save, and play as the satellite.

    State of New York, hooo!
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:14 No.5850480
    I've got an awesome Europa Univeralis III game going on right now:

    In the first, I unified Italy starting as Naples. I then proceded to try to reunify the Roman Empire. I've got Italy, Greece, Switzerland, the southern half of france, and all of North Africa. I'm slowly chipping away at the Ottomans with the help of my greatest ally, the Hungarian Empire. Or they were my greatest ally until the broke our alliance, got into three wars, and dissolved into petty states. Our new best friend is Great Britain, with whom we've been beating France to a pulp every 20 years or so. Funny bits: England, Italy, and Hungary are all Calvinist, and the capital of Portugal is Manhattan. Russia never evolved, and is mostly a bunch of muslim successors of the Golden Horde.

    All this and it's only the 1640s.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:14 No.5850485
    its actually meant to be a MP scenario with countries with equal everything (IC,TC, resources etc)
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:14 No.5850492
    Fuck yes man.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:16 No.5850502
    Sure, if MP stands for BORING
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:18 No.5850520

    How the hell did Russia survivve that long? In all of my games, Russia gets so goddamend pwn'd by the Kossacks and Swedes, it's not even funny.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:18 No.5850522
    ive seen some pretty interesting games with Arma

    USNA vs Confederacy Start of game till end of game, by USNA finally surrendering

    Australasia Vs PRC 8 year war, with almost all the fighting taking place in Indonesia ends in a white peace :(
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:18 No.5850526
    Mod34 is spiffy, CORE is spiffy as well.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:19 No.5850534
    I gave em techs and resources and led divisions

    However they did suffer a lot of rebels, which they ruthlessly put down
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:20 No.5850553
    I remember starting a game as the Teutonic knights, and ending with nearly all of the world under Imperial German rule. I had so much badboy I basically declared war on the world.

    I won.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:22 No.5850564
    In my latest EU3 game, I played as Burgundy. We beat France badly in the Hundred Year's War, and now control eastern france, most of Germany, the Netherlands, and Northern Italy. England is so catholic half the popes come from canterbury. Burgundy is the only surviving Calvinist state, so stability loss free wars with everyone! I also love the dichotomy of having a despotic monarchy with maxed out free subjects.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:24 No.5850583
    There's an AAR somewhere documenting one guy's game where he Conquered nearly the entire world as the Iroquois. He only fell short due to time constraints. He was on the one hundred and somethingth war of Iroquois aggression and had badboy off the charts. The best part is that one province nations would declare war on him due to high badboy.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:26 No.5850597
    EU3 game. STarted as the Americans the day afetr they won the war, changed the goverment to a monarchy of some kind. King Cyrus I waged war in Burma and Thailand, comming from the west.

    But I was such a badboy that my allies, the french, declared war on me.

    Not fucking funny.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:27 No.5850614
    What did you mod to make all your vassals not kill you or did you just use byzantine cheat?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:29 No.5850629
    One time I had just barely gotten beyond badboy max, in such a low amount that it was gone in two months. During that time, three tiny Indian kingdoms sent me warnings not to go to war. I was playing as a european nation.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:43 No.5850761
    Anyone playing a vanilla EU is playing an easy modo. Just saying.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:51 No.5850841
    People still do that? When is MMP2 coming out, anyway?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:56 No.5850899
    Oct i think
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)22:59 No.5850944
    Any particular mods I should dl for Crusader Kings?
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)23:00 No.5850962
    There was one mod that let you play as a muslim but I don't think that works anymore...
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)23:18 No.5851180
    I think it also let you play as merchant republics.
    >> Anonymous 09/13/09(Sun)23:41 No.5851414
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)00:43 No.5852156
    I once played Czech republic in HoI2.I the end war in europe was over in 1942, and Germany was no more. Western third of it was under french control, middle third (including Berlin) and austria was mine and poland got eastern third. and some other bits.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)00:53 No.5852278
    A word of warning for those playing Crusader Kings and/or its expansion: Treat it as an RPG, not a strategy/conquest game. You are role-playing as a dynasty or series of rulers. With that in mind you'll have a lot of fun. If you approach it as just a strategy game with some RPG stuff in the background then you'll have no fun and a lot of frustration.

    I strongly suggest playing in character too. It's a lot of fun. I also enjoy aiding obscure relatives or favourite "pet" families that may or may not be noble.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)00:56 No.5852306
    Don't use the mods that let you play as Republics or other computer-only sides. They lack the proper limits and penalties and it ends up boring and too easy.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)01:00 No.5852345
    Do they let you play mongols? Because that would get super super boring.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)01:07 No.5852399
    There's an LP of a guy playing as Texas in Victoria here:http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Victoria/
    He ended up as the Texan Empire.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)01:10 No.5852437

    I believe there was one. It did make it far too simple.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)01:15 No.5852478
    In one Europa Universalis game, I played as France and made the most retarded decisions possible. By the end of the 15th century France was no longer a nation, so I played as the strongest of the successor states. Brittany went on to found a huge colonial empire, while gaining almost no European territories to speak of. France was refounded by some asshole in Toulouse.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)01:40 No.5852714
    God damnit.

    I downloaded Crusader Kings, made the .cue file, and mounted that shit. When I install it, it gets to 1% then fucks up because data2.cab is either missing or fucked up or something.

    I see this shit all over the internet, but I can't find anything that says where I should download a different file or version.

    Fuck this is infuriating.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)05:02 No.5854739
    Let's see. I do remember one fairly epic Victoria game, where the so-called "Great Game" between my British Empire and the computer's Russian Empire escalated into an eventual alternative Great War, involving most of the world's major powers. After years of trench warfare in the Caucasus and the Ukraininan Steppes, the Russian government finally collapsed, leaving me with miles of Russian territory I never wanted in the first place, and as a northern neighbor, a newly formed Soviet Union entertaining hopes of eventual payback. We never got to have a rematch before the game ended, but I did spend the remainder of the game setting up various buffer states and selling them whatever useless territory was left over.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)10:27 No.5857283

    Try buying it then, faggot.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)11:02 No.5857469

    The tension build-up can be great with these things. I always enjoy seeing a Pyrrhic victory happen.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)11:14 No.5857543
    I remember one of my early times playing victoria as Japan. So the westernisation came eventually and then shit hits the fan. I can't remember how but somehow socialists, communists and anarchist decided to fuck up the country with constant revolts and by 1890 or so it happened. Japan became the world's first socialist country.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)13:55 No.5859035

    Japan is a great choice to start with as a nation. Also for experiments. It can go many different paths. The communist/fascist route tends to happen if you make a bungle of some key moments or push things too fast.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)15:04 No.5859691
    Britain is another common choice. It is so massive and powerful that even if you make a mess of it you will still be a significant power.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)15:05 No.5859700
    Any good mods for CKs?
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)15:10 No.5859737

    There was a Song of Ice & Fire mod.

    It was very buggy.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)15:14 No.5859762
    Did it have a twincest option?
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)15:16 No.5859773

    Dunno. I was to busy conquering the Trident and marrying my little sisters to Petyr Baelish and Oberyn Martell.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)15:16 No.5859774
    Played Victoria, only to convert into HoI2. California and Texas are independant, Germany is Market Liberal and Russia is a Paternal Autocrat.

    California is a Paternal Autocrat, but I pretend it to be a fascist Republic.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)15:18 No.5859777
    Yes, but it was buggy. When you clicked it, you had a consensual sex in a missionary position with your lawful spouse.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)15:30 No.5859881

    Any links?
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)15:35 No.5859913
    Jesus christ, this thread is still alive?
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)15:37 No.5859925
    The game is all blurry for me.

    The map doesn't look right, the portraits don't fit the cases, etc.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)16:08 No.5860103
    Every time I play CK as Scotland, the game will always end up crashing after a century (keeps crashing when I reload recent saves). I'd heard some rumors that some countries were less stable than others in this regard. Anybody else heard of this?
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)17:37 No.5861077

    Have you got the latest patches? Check their forum for the latest update. I've heard the same thing happening with various countries. The patches solve a lot of problems. I've played for a long time as Scotland and it a lot of people have played through as it.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)17:38 No.5861081

    Sounds like you've buggered it up, mate.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)17:40 No.5861101
    Why is this thread still alive
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)17:53 No.5861245

    Because CK and Vicky are fantastic games with great RP'ing or strategy potential.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)17:54 No.5861264
    Goes without saying, but the thread is 24 hours old.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)18:05 No.5861375
    Any games like this but Sci-Fi?
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)18:11 No.5861435

    I think there was, or at least a mod for EU or something.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)18:11 No.5861436
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    Would love such a game.
    The Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri is a bit like that, but not quite. Excellent game though it is.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)18:15 No.5861462
    Try Shrapnel games for some similarly good games.

    I'd suggest trying Dominions 2 or 3. Fantastic game and it has had great support from the developers and the modders. There are Warhammer Fantasy mods for it, so you can have Skaven wiping out the Empire.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)18:19 No.5861510
    yeah, AC is too Civ like, not what I'm looking for, which means GalCivII is out as well. Good games both though, yes.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)18:19 No.5861516

    There are sci-fi maps and mods for that, I think. It is also pretty easy to make maps and mods too.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)18:23 No.5861560
    Space Empires?
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)18:41 No.5861720
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    It's a bit hard to make one. Present sci-fi visions see impacts that don't translate well to the sort of traditional geography map based games that HOI and co. are.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)18:59 No.5861930
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    anyone got a good torrent for vicky and revolutions? Shit can't be found in stores.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)19:44 No.5862472

    Yes it can. You can buy it easily online too.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)20:03 No.5862704
    Fuck, I love these games.

    My personal favorite games are usually the ones with the byzantines going on a rampage, conquering my way to India or along the Mediterranean.
    But currently I've got a game going in EU3 in which I'm playing as Granada and by now (1680) I have conquered France, the whole of Iberia and Italy and about half of Germany. Next on the list are Germany and Hungary to finally dissolve the fucking HRE and then I'm going to subjugate those pesky Poles and Scandinavians.

    For HoI or Victoria I usually prefer China. Especially in Victoria once you civilize them you can start the UBER_industrialisation making all Europeans seem like poor shitholes compared to your lvl 30+ fully staffed factory cities
    Shit is SO CASH
    >> Johndiesattheend.com Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)20:17 No.5862853
    dalbert von Franken of Germany 09/13/09(Sun)19:00 No.5848416

    it's the fucking 15th here.

    never change tg, never change
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)20:22 No.5862915

    level 30?!

    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)20:25 No.5862947
    I suppose I'm not the only one who strives to become christian first and foremost in EU3?
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)20:32 No.5863015
    I loved the old paradox games (HoI3 was a delusion so far).

    In CK, one of the most awesome alt histories i created in a game was starting with Frederick the II king of southern Italy, not getting him killed or executed, then allying with sicily, conquering dalmatia, northern italy, crimea, then greece, cyprus, and saxony.

    Crimea was one hell to hold.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)20:43 No.5863140
    HoI3 will be worthy in 3 months plus mods
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)20:47 No.5863201
    But still not worth paying for.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)21:55 No.5863994

    Is HOI3 really that bad? I liked HOI2 and their other games.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)22:55 No.5864718

    Hearts of Iron2: Doomsday with the Armageddon addon is the bets sofar. Hearts of Iron 3 was so horribly coded, it's a shitstain in the company's record.
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)23:33 No.5865115

    this thread is still alive?
    >> Anonymous 09/14/09(Mon)23:34 No.5865135
    Fuck not that post

    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)02:21 No.5866838
    Yeah, while playing as china you've got such a shitload of possible workers that you can upgrade all you want, that really rocks. You also get infinite cash if you don't raise taxes but instead use tariffs to get your cash.

    @HoI 3: So far Hearts of Iron 3 is a huge bugfest, but they are working on fixing these bugs, once they finish that it can really be an awesome game. I heard they had a really crappy beta where out of 400 persons they hired only 20 signed up once or twice and out of these only 3 or 4 actually reported bugs.
    >> Johndiesattheend.com Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)07:06 No.5869192

    i've downloaded the trials, and if i like these games, i'm gonna hate you for making me spend money.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)07:12 No.5869226
    OUCH. Now I pity Paradox.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)08:25 No.5869646
    Money well spent
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)08:33 No.5869675
    Holy fuck this thread is still here.

    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)08:38 No.5869700
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    Prussian mobile war fag here, i got a few stories here, heres a short one

    During this massive war with russia, i had managed to slice off a few divisons from the front line in eastern Europe to be sent to the Atlantic ocean to stop the USNA and its expansion to the Only island group there which was Owned by Bourbon

    for over a year two divs one mine the other USNA would constantly invade, be pushed off, reinvade over and over again untill i finally gave up and let them have it

    Pic related, a worthless waste of lives over a few islands deserves the highest honors for those who lost their lives obeying the Kaiser
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)08:53 No.5869776
    Playing Victoria. Started as the US. Did some deals with the UK to buy the rest of the Northwest US territories they had. Made them states. Then made it into the Columbia satellite.

    Started playing as Columbia. Hard at first. Really hard. Not really any attacks. Mexico was going to be trouble so I started influencing them some. When war broke out between them and the US I asked for a white peace and they accepted.

    Soon I converted some Capitalists and started making some real cash. Eventually got some tech researched, traded it and some cash for Vancouver Island/Victoria, off the coast of Seattle. They added a huge pop boost which I quickly converted to soldiers.

    Raised a little army. When the civil war broke out, DoW on the US, snatched some land, asked for a white peace. Since I had a lot of their Canadian border and West coast (well, not a lot, but some), they agreed and Columbia was now a free state.

    Voting rights are based on wealth, and as such, it is a Liberal mecca.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)08:57 No.5869803
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    >Voting rights are based on wealth, and as such, it is a Liberal mecca.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:03 No.5869842
    Hahaha, yeah I know. But being in the northwest, it's mostly farmers and laborers, who are mostly conservative. The capitalist though, are very very liberal, and so they vote, liberal parties win, and the populace slowly begins to liberalize.

    Once the majority are liberal it will go to full suffrage. It's not really free, but meh.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:03 No.5869847
    Some free is better the no free
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:05 No.5869852
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    >Voting rights are based on wealth, and as such, it is a Liberal mecca.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:05 No.5869854
    Newfags don't know about my classical liberalism.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:07 No.5869866
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    >Voting rights are based on wealth, and as such, it is a Liberal mecca. 
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:07 No.5869868

    It's my country.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:08 No.5869873
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    >Voting rights are based on wealth, and as such, it is a Liberal mecca.  
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:13 No.5869897
    In Victoria, how soon is the Manhattan Commune possible to make as the US?

    I've tried creating it back at the earliest start point, but it isn't possible at that point.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:18 No.5869925
    No idea bro, i think that event is time tied though
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:22 No.5869957
    I think only from the Civil War. It was supposed to be around revolts about the draft and trading with the south and all that.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:31 No.5870020
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    HoI2, playing a USA that managed to become highly technologically advanced. In my little fantasy of this world, it's not too dissimilar to the USA in the Fallout games.

    Basically, it's January 1945 and World War 3 has become a horrible and long drawn-out mess between the three major world powers: The Allies, The Soviet Union and the Empire of Japan.

    The Allies consist of the USA, United Kingdom, France and...The Deutsches Kaiserreich, The German Empire, ruled by Wilhelm III, a puppet of the UK, formed from the ashes of Germany after World War 2. The Allies are making slow but steady progress against the Russian hordes, being massively outnumbered. American advance forces of M26 Pershing tanks recently captured the irradiated ruins of Moscow, while most of the front line that stretches from the Black Sea to the American held sections of Russia is held by the rest of the Allied Forces and is a giant stalemate.

    America is nuclear capable. Tokyo, Moscow, Leningrad, Shanghai and Kiev are no more than ruins. Kiev has the honour of being the first city to be destroyed by a nuclear weapon mounted on an ICBM.

    Field too long derp
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:32 No.5870024

    The Pacific is under American control, for now, after a massive naval battle near the Marshall Islands that proved a turning point in the Pacific War. The American and Japanese navies were both crippled in the engagement, with the Hornet, Essex, Enterprise and Wasp all being lost in the engagement, and five Japanese carriers being taken with them. The American Navy is now focusing on a policy of swarms of light carriers instead of large vulnerable carriers after the disaster in the Marshalls.

    The British are holding out in a small section of India and retaining most of Burma after losing their Raj to the Japanese. They have recently captured a province of the Kingdom of Siam, a Japanese Ally. There is still some hope for them.

    The Soviet Union has captured massive swathes of Northern China from Japan. It remains unclear how this war may yet turn out.

    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:34 No.5870039
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    And i posted the wrong picture. Here's the World Map.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:36 No.5870059
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    lol, history.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:37 No.5870070

    Oh, and even in an alternate reality where Italy isn't allied or hostile to anyone, and thus has no distractions, they still suck. Check their little empire in Abyssinia. See those two grey provinces?

    Useless Mussolini.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:40 No.5870086
    Playing Poland in HoI2. In 1936 annexed Hungary and Czechoslovakia in a bid to fuck Germany over in 1939. Italy declared war on me, Germany on Italy. It's August 19 1938, Poland and Romania are part of the Axis. France attacked Germany, Soviets - me. Only feeble forces of Yugoslavia, which attacked Italy for some fucking reason, stand between Mussolinni and my defenceless south. Nazis are slowly losing ground. I annexed Lithuania, Latva and Estonnia and gained a bit of ground in Russia. If I don't end up the war with Russia soon it will all go to hell. Thankfully I don't think Hitler will stab me in the back, seeing that he's got his hands full with Allies.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:40 No.5870089
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    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:42 No.5870097

    Not pictured is the fact that I also colonized some of Australia/Indonesia. Spain colonized most of it, and also moved their capital into Perth for some reason.

    War ensued, and now I control most of Oceania. Feels good man.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)09:48 No.5870141

    Plus, rather amusingly, the Siege of Leningrad is being played out backwards. An outnumbered German force, valiantly holding against the Russians.

    A German force. In the blasted radioactive ruins of Leningrad.

    Sounds rather like Death Korps of Krieg...
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)11:08 No.5870810
    I fucking love Alt History.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)12:28 No.5871335
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    Me too. I also love grand strategy games. Its my ambition in life to play something like this eventually.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)12:57 No.5871532

    I like what I'm seeing here!

    Currently I'm playing a HoI2 game as the Republic of China. After the dirty Japanese were driven out of China thy turned towards Communism and allied the USSR and while my superior hordes of poorly trained infantry where conquering the Third Reich in the name of the allies the US fucked up and pulled another Civil War this time Commies vs. Democrats. Commies won and now are allied to the USSR and the Japanese. within the next months WW3 is going to start and a giant shitstorm will ensue.
    The game is heavily modded though to be more challenging.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)13:39 No.5872012
    Say, fine gentlemen, does this game have problems with Vista?
    >> Mr. Bubbles !!DLJ3bQ7yunJ 09/15/09(Tue)13:40 No.5872021
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    He beat Germany in 84 days.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)13:43 No.5872052

    What game is this?
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)13:48 No.5872101
    Oh good, a Paradox game thread, just what I wanted.

    I recently bought HoI2, and the learning curve is rather steep. Any tips on how to start out?
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)13:51 No.5872117
    what kind of an abomination is that?
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)13:53 No.5872145
    Be Germany.

    They're big but wiht no Colonies to worry about.

    YOu can focus on land war and rape the rest of Europe.

    Due to early game fuckups you wil still probably lose in 45.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)14:25 No.5872457

    I just got Crusader Kings installed properly.

    Soon enough I'll be uniting the world under a single banner.

    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)14:26 No.5872466
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    I've been working on an alt history for the past few months.

    When Jesus died on the cross, his followers got scared and decided to GTFO and move to Africa. Thus, Christianity never got a foothold in Europe. Since there was no Roman Civil War in 320, Constantine stays in the West, and East rome falls to the Sassanid (persian) Empire in the 380s. King Arthur is instead General Arturius of Dumnonia, The Balkans band together into a Thracian League (later empire of Thracia) which quickly becomes an economic superpower, and Rome loses its African colonies to the Sassanids. Oh, and the Viking Age starts 80 years early.

    Map depicts the world as of 700 AD, shortly before the Viking raids begin. Red is the Roman Empire (still polytheist), green is Persia (Zoroastrian), the yellow country in Africa is Axum (the only christian kingdom), and blue is Thracia. In asia most countries haven't been affected by the changes significantly: purple is China, orange is Tibet, and magenta is the Gokturk Khaganate. I reused some colors for smaller countries but it shouldn't be too confusing.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)14:28 No.5872481
    whut? this thred is still alive?
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)14:33 No.5872520

    Okay, so I start a new game of Victoria as Japan. Slowly build me industry. Nothing too major seeing as it's Japan.

    Eventually the Netherlands would like to meet with me. I agree, and soon become a satellite of theirs. This brings with it and ENORMOUS boost to technology.

    So now with this knowledge, I build my nation at an even faster rate. Midland Island is mine. I trade some claims with China and I get Okinawa. Gobbling up a good number of Pacific islands.

    SOMEHOW, Texas becomes a dominion of the UK. This seriously fucks up the US.

    The Mexican American war goes horribly for them. Mexico takes the entire west coast and moves east. Once the CSA arrives, Mexico pushes East more and takes the entire country up to Lake Michigan. Currently the CSA is still kicking it in the south, and the US is surviving in the Northeast.

    The UK's inroads into India/Asia has netted them Afghanistan.

    Eventually I declared war on Netherlands for freedom. I hit Amsterdam with 100,000 troops and quickly took over several of their home territories. I held them for close to 2 years, declining the Netherland's peace offers.

    Eventually though, the attrition damage was getting to me, so when they offered a lot of Indonesian islands, I took the deal.

    I'm sitting pretty as the 10th most powerful nation, but I'm still uncivilized, as I CAN NOT FUCKING INCREASE MY MILITARY RATING! GOD DAMN IT!
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)14:39 No.5872581
    Jesus Christ we're almost up to 40 hours. This is incredible.
    >> Shas'o R'myr !!TZikiEEr0tg 09/15/09(Tue)14:40 No.5872594

    The funny part is there was an orthodox christian kingdom in Africa - Makuria. But they got ganked by Fatamid Egypt.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)14:41 No.5872608
    Uh, I believe you mean 44 HOURS. GOD DAMN GOD DAMN.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)14:46 No.5872648

    And Axum was historically christian. That's what I based it on. The Axumites are currently supporting the Arabs, who were recently conquered by the Persians and feel they are being oppressed. Axum is also sending pirates to fuck with the persians' indian trades. This has the effect of giving Thracia a better position in trade, which is part of the reason why it turned from a collection of buffer states to a huge economic empire in the space of 50 years
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)15:05 No.5872801
    From one of my earlier Victoria games as Sweden (later Scandinavia) I recall the late game essentially boiling down to decade-long trench warfare against the combined armies of Imperial Germany and Russia. Hopelessly outnumbered, we'd just stack as many troops as we could in heavily fortified chokepoints (preferably single provinces) and decimate the enemy with shore bombardment from our superior dreadnought navy whenever they tried assaulting. Then they'd sue for white peace eventually, and we'd go back to selling them telephones, cars, airplanes and furniture until they decide to declare war again.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)15:21 No.5872938
    God damn Crusader Kings. I have no idea who to start as.

    Who should I choose?
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)15:27 No.5872993
    Come on, any suggestion.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)15:28 No.5873002
    take the smallest, lamest country and see how big you can make it
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)15:30 No.5873018
    That doesn't help. I need names.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)15:32 No.5873029
    Assuming a 1066 start I quite like the duchy of Gwynedd in Wales. Becoming king of Wales is easy but expanding from there proves to be more of a challenge as you've got the supremely powerful England to the east and although Ireland's split up, most of the duchies there are about as powerful as a united Wales.

    My favourite hard modo goes to the county of Salerno in 1066. About the only way to succeed is to marry into Apulia's bloodline and murder a tonne of male infants or overcome the superior (and soon to be part of Byzantium) county of Napoli to create a duke title for yourself.

    Good times.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)15:32 No.5873030

    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)15:38 No.5873070

    My favourite run with Salerno was when I ignored everything nearby and sent my army on a crusade all the way across Europe to Prussia. 1000 dudes managed to carve out three provinces before deserting/dysentery consumed them. I used the shit holes up north to springboard a campaign against Lithuania and was crowned king after 23 years of toil.
    Shit rocks ruling a mighty pagan army from a pissant little county south of Rome.
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    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)15:50 No.5873180
    It's not summer any more. Good threads last.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)15:54 No.5873204
    Damn, I've always wanted to buy one of these games, but I can never seem to find them and they seem super hard.
    Not that I mind hard games of course, but I feel the difficulty might just throw me off the game completely. Like Dwarf Fortress, I know it's a great game, but the super steep learning curve just made me quit after my third play.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)16:04 No.5873283
    For DF, follow the wiki or other tutorials exactly as they say until you know what you're doing. These games are a lot easier than DF. If you can't find them for sale, torrent them.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)16:07 No.5873306
    I was going to make a post bitching about the reposted thread and then discovered that it had never died in the first place.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)16:07 No.5873312
    I'm a moralfag so I'll just order it in from Amazon or something.
    And fuck DF. Fuck it in the ass.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)16:08 No.5873319
    Speaking of which, which game should I buy?
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)16:25 No.5873479


    So I've spent the last few days trying to find a copy of Crusader Kings online.


    It looked like all the others were the same, but then I found another one! FUCK YEAH! I installed it. IT INSTALLED! I started it. IT WORKED! Now, it was just Deus Vult, which I heard was playable by itself, so I didn't worry too much. It worked. But it had monstrous errors. Fuck!

    I download the official patch from Paradox for DV. STILL ALL FUCKING FUCKED!


    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)16:58 No.5873802
    You can buy them at gamersgate.com I'd recommend starting with HoI2 as from my experience its the easiest to learn of all of their games (Victoria really takes time to learn and Crusader King turns into a hell of micromanaging at some point) After the first one the learning courve is not as steep.

    Definitely play Germany. Spend the first two years expanding your industry and then start building tanks and infantry (mobile if possible) and a decent airforce consisting of tactical bombers and close air support. Then go and rape Europe.
    Or start as the USA and spend four years expanding your industry and then begin producing a huge fleet of Carriers destroyers and light Cruisers. Then rape Japan. Watch while Germany (hopefully) pillages and loots the USSR and land in France with a shitload of tanks planes and infantry and start freeing the shit out of them

    I must admit that the games paradox makes are all among my all-time favourites I have literally spent countless hours playing them and still I am not tired of it.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)17:02 No.5873846
    Yeah unfortunately Deus Vult still has quite a few ctds and shit. Are you using the english language setting? I heard that part of the sources for ctds were coming from messed up translation for the german or french version.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)17:04 No.5873862
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    I love Paradox Games. Pic is 1936 in a Megacampaign as Swabia > Germany starting in 1066. Highlights include the fact that the Reconquista failed and all of Iberia is Muslim. As a result, everything in the new world save the American Federation (British), Vinland (Scandinavian), and Gustavia (Scandinavian) was colonized by Muslims. Another highlight is the Union of Rome, which came into being when the Byzantine Empire fell to Communist Revolution in the late 1800s. The Byzantine crown has moved to its colonies in India now.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)17:06 No.5873880
    Isn't that the Mega Lets Play from Wiz over at the Something Awful forums? I read that and like it a lot!
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)17:07 No.5873887

    Yup. Best LP/AAR I've ever read.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)17:10 No.5873918
    This'll be one of the ones I'll need to pay 10 bux to read?
    (Damn, haven't seen that one since 06 in /b/ I think.)
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)17:13 No.5873961
    You only need to register on some days. I have read the whole thing and never registered there. Just try it again at some point later.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)17:15 No.5873987

    You don't need to pay 10bux to read Something Awful, just to make an account. The thread is right here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2787274
    If the beginning bores you, skip to Victoria. That's when Wiz's modding talent really comes to fruition.

    In a recent game as Wales, I pulled off the biggest dick move of all time. My ruler's daughter happened to the cousin of my rival, England's, ruler's heir. So I married her off to him when he turned 16. Two generations later, I had nothing but inbred retards to stop me from conquering Great Britain.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)18:01 No.5874429

    Oh god, that's fucking beautiful.

    Excellent example of longterm planning.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)18:34 No.5874784

    That's cold.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)18:47 No.5874916
    This thread is fucking beautiful.

    Making History: Decided to show the game to friends at school, played reckless american imperialism.

    Took Cuba and Mexico for the lulz, Nationalist Spain declared war on me. Invaded Spain, gave it back to the Republic, kept spanish morocco, left some troops there to keep an eye on europe.

    The Japanese didn't even get off their boats in China I was already there discovering that the game doesn't support 3-way battles. (China didn't want to ally, because seriously, what could you need less than a superpower protecting you from another one that is invading you RIGHT THIS MOMENT)

    Took Siam just to make a point, Germany declared a half-assed war on France without taking neither Austria, Poland nor Czechoslovakia.

    Just as I wanted to declare war on them, (France didn't want to ally so I guess I would've had to ship everyone from spain ¯\(°_o)/¯) the british decided to declare war on me.

    I stopped the demonstration there. Come to think of it, I just wanted to take central america in the beginning. Felt good, man
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)18:53 No.5874965
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    And we are close to 48 hours already. The sun never sets on the Paradox thread!

    To contribute something meaningful with this post, I once lost a battle in EU2 with 1000 of my men trying to take an island with three rebel cannon and nothing else. And on the opposite end of the scale, I once conquered and annexed a nation with 12 infantrymen.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)19:00 No.5875030

    In EU3, I once besieged a fort with an army of 10,000 infantry. To my delight, I found it had been beleaguered by rebels for some time and was down to 20 defenders. So I went ahead and attacked. And damn if those 20 defenders didn't annihilate half my army without losing a single soul.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)19:03 No.5875066

    Fuck man, attacked the wrong people ., those fuckers were iron men.

    They should have been given a heroes funeral
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)19:14 No.5875199
    fucking geeks
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)19:24 No.5875323
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    So, you decided to come to the nerdiest corner of pretty much the worst site on the Internet to post that little gem?

    Bump with more Paradox awesomeness, specifically the Soviet Union spectacularly failing to conquer Estonia. Now, the Winter War we have to accept as plausible because it happened, but losing Leningrad to the Estonians?
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)19:26 No.5875361

    shut the fuck up geek
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)19:32 No.5875434

    The mentally retarded can be so cute sometimes.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)19:35 No.5875465
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    Haha, what could have caused that? Are they preoccupied with a war against Japan in the East or what?

    Pic is a Bishop that's been dead for decades but still rules over his province.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)19:45 No.5875545

    Just defending against my Operation Barbarossa, I think. I may have launched it a year early. But you still wouldn't expect them to leave Leningrad completely undefended while at war with Estonia right next door!
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)20:12 No.5875753
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    My Polish empire in 1483 (1399 start)

    But yeah, EU3: In Nomine is a bit too easy, especially as one of the larger nations. So I started playing Magna Mundi Platinum as Styria. Really love slowly turning the imperial demesne into core provinces. Just gotta hope that Brandenburg never manages to steal my crown, I'd lose more than half my territory.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)20:33 No.5875939
    >HOI2 in file name

    Wait, what? How do you do that?
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)20:46 No.5876043
    Also, starting in 1066? Is that a mod or something? Earliest I can start is 1936.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)20:48 No.5876058

    He started in Crusader Kings in 1066, converted the game over to EU3 in 1399, converted that to Victoria in 1800 (Vicky normally starts in 1836, he modded it to make it begin earlier), and converted to HoI2 in 1936. The game is absolutely epic, and I don't use that word lightly.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)20:54 No.5876099

    Just how long did this take?
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)20:56 No.5876121

    He started in March 2008 and the HoI2 portion is ongoing, currently in 1940. He's taken a few months worth of breaks between new games.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)21:02 No.5876188
    870 years.
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)21:05 No.5876218
    Holy shit this thread is still here?
    Question remains, which is the best starting game for a Paradox noobie?
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)21:12 No.5876288


    50 hours.


    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)21:22 No.5876400

    EU3 is considered the most newbie-friendly. All recent paradox games have their own wikis with lots of starter guides and explanations of how the game works, and all of them have active forum communities full of helpful people on the official paradox forums to fall back on if you need further help.
    >> Adalbert von Franken of Germany 09/15/09(Tue)21:43 No.5876613
    OP here.

    Wow, you guys are awesome. I am pondering about starting a war with England now. It is the only nation in the world who has the power to cause some trouble to me(though they are my allies). But that would probably make the game too boring... So maybe I should reorganize my vassals under, say, seven archdukes and raise the taxes to see what happens?
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)22:24 No.5876972

    >see what happens

    Some of the most glorious and terrible things in history were spawned from that phrase.
    DO IT!
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)22:29 No.5877025
    Video games that are the juristdiction of /tg/

    Dwarf Fortress
    Dungeon Crawl
    Paradox Games
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)22:36 No.5877091
    this is why white people are virgins
    >> Anonymous 09/15/09(Tue)22:36 No.5877092

    You forgot Black Isle.

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