Only if you believe.

Not unless the mechs are powered by dead christians.

Sounds like a Go Nagai comic

Whoah, Gaul mechs...

It'd make Rome: Total War actually entertaining.

Are mecha really compatible with the Roman Empire, though? Maybe in gladatorial combats, but the Roman way of war was based around legions and formations, which really runs counter to the single-champion character of a mech.

fuck yeah!

>>6419255
Mars demands blood to oil the machinery of oil... this 'cult' will do.

>>6419296
maybe as small units, akin to cavalry or chariot units. Roman tactics would evolve to incorperate Giant Mechs.

My major questions are: tech or magic?
how vulnerable are they? (could archers take them out? siege weapons? Only other Mech?)

>>6419296
>>6419296
What about legions and ranks of smaller mecha?

>>6419296
steam powered armor, then.

Oh wait, it's been done.

the colossus of rhodes + mech battles

"HEPHAESTUS IS TIRED OF YOUR SHIT."

>>6419335

>Tech or magic?

Clearly, they came from Mars.

>>6419335

predominantly magic would be best

blessed by the gods and given life through their power, crafted by their inspiration, and fighting in their name

>>6419386
Divien gift or 40kfaggery?

>>6419335
I would say driven via magic, something devine. Like mechs for war are piloted by members of the temple of Mars.

>>6419401
fuck: divine, because I can spell...

>>6419240
OP, ask /m/ what they think.

>>6419386
Best. Pun. Ever.

>>6419255
Is it a bad thing that I though the exact same thing?
Christian blood hydrolics!

Mechs kinda class with the whole idea of how the Romans carried out combat. The Romans were all about harsh discipline and formations - whereas mechs are about improvisation and more individualistic / small group tactics.

I'd say that they'd be piloted by generals, and that there would be very few of them running at any one time. The mechs would act as a testament to Roman authority, and, in battle, would be used to corral the enemy troops so they can be more easily butchered by the legionnaires. This would also mean Caesar would have piloted a mech when he was running around conquering Gaul.

Throwing in my vote for a gift from Mars/ his priesthood which seems to be the common idea.

>>6419457
Why not huge lines of "mecha-suited" legionaries?

Or they could just be the domain of the gladiatorial combatants, impractical for anything else.

>>6419439
Not really. Giant war machines powered by the blood of slain christians/gauls/whatever's handy and not Roman is exactly the kind of thing the Roman Empire would do.

>>6419496

reminds me of Escaflowne

definitely tech. Romans were one of the most advanced civilizations.

I mean they made the first computer, aquifers, and a fucking sewer.

I dunno, Mechs of Mars versus the Cathegian War Elephants and their Mech would be pretty awesome. Plus, if we're going for a roleplaying setting, small squads of around 4-5 fit perfectly for most gaming groups.

is this a sequel to Reign the Conqueror then?

legions of animated marble warriors would be kinda badass too

Legions of powered armor wearing troops, backed by high speed multilegged mechs as cavalry with the generals and nobles piloting giant mechs.

Think the Antikythera Mechanism on steroids.

>>6419517

fuck year

Idea: Mechs of Vulcan and Mars. Maybe both temples produce them. Possibly Vulcan's priests make them and the Mars priests pilot?

>>6419473
>Why not huge lines of "mecha-suited" legionaries?

Because they'd take a whole lot of resources to make, and going that route would require a much larger shift in technological/magical ability.

>Or they could just be the domain of the gladiatorial combatants, impractical for anything else.

I'm not sure how a big ass piloted robot would be impractical in warfare, because, if nothing else, they'd be great for breaking enemy formations.

>>6419397
This! Divinely powered.

I see it as more something like the gods blessing men of their various domains with the vision of these towering machines that, when assembled, are powered by the Gods themselves! The smith-machines of Haephestus, the war makers of Ares, and the slender and dextrous mecha of Aphrodite.

Err. Wait, those are Greek. Vulkan, Mars, and Venus then.

Gaul's answer to Rome's Mech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warp_spasm
(Mechs? Giant Monster Beserkers?)

>>6419544
>the slender and dextrous mecha of Aphrodite.
Damn, I wish I was a drawfag.

If the Romans get mechs, what do the other guys get?

>>6419240

Escaflowne

or Exalted with warmounts and much of the Asian cultural traits removed. Aside from that, the setting's greatest inspiration seems to be Greek and Roman epics.

rolled 13 = 13

>>6419544
Vulcan doesnt make mecha, He makes CANNONS.

There may or may not be something attached to the "vulkan canon". Picture related

Rome: Largely small two-legged mecha, most likely just powered armor for infantry use with Fast and Heavy Mecha as support.

Carthage: Uses mostly a moltey assortment of merc mecha for offensive campaigns, or if money is short, an cadre of high-tech mecha along with outdated mecha wielded by conquered people.

Later shows more use of four-legged mecha mounting heavy weapons.

Parthia: A blend of light mecha that can move very quickly, and fairly heavy mecha that can also move quickly but are generally small in numbers as they are the elite of the Parthian military.

>>6419578
Sparta. Continues fielding legionnaires.

Remains undefeated to this day.

Romans and Greeks - mechs

Barbarian tribes - potions/rituals that turn their elite soldiers into large hulking monstrosities.

>>6419617

Nope. The gauls and goths and such got pretty much crushed by Roman mecha, but after a few hundred years of fighting the Empire, they got pretty good at building their own out of scrapped parts.

The 'barbarians' who sacked historical Rome were experts in formation fighting and equipped with freakin' siege towers.

>>6419544


D20 Mecha compendium has a couple examples like this.

There exist what are essentially giant golems. They were created by the gods (maybe for humans, maybe for their own uses, or even a greater one).

Each one is summoned by an amulet, which allows the user to summon the massive golem and become one with it. In order to gain possession of the amulet, you have to overcome a certain series of challenges based on the nature of the golem/god. One is a holy roly Paladin type, so in order to take control of it, you need to defeat a powerful Demon/Devil in single combat. Another is an aspect of fire, so you have to endure hellish flames.

After an adventurer from a kingdom found one and began using it on behalf of the crown in wars, all the others started funding expeditions in attempts to uncover their own. Another kingdom discovered one, and now it challenges the previous as a super power.

After decades of study, priests and artificers have also discovered how to make lesser versions. While they lack the overall power of the originals, they are still only able to be operated by those with the will and appropriate goals.

It also has an alternate history Gulf War where the Abrams and T-72 tanks are walkers.

MONGOLS WITH BIOMECHA MONSTROSITIES :3

>>6419578

Carthage: Hannibal and his MECHANICAL ELEPHANTS.

To answer Op's question. Apparently yes.

The Roman pantheon provides Caesar with mechs to help him expand the Empire and to serve as a testament to his legitimacy as Emperor. Due to Caesar's divine patronage, Brutus exposed Cassius's assassination attempt instead of betraying Caesar.

With their newly found divine help, the Empire is able to spread more rapidly, engulfing Germania, as well as heading deeper into the Middle East and Africa.

Of course, everything does not go according to plan. The Roman invasion of the British Isles fails because the mechs are too heavy to be transported by boat, and the Roman military had grown overly dependent on their use.

Boudica leads a counter attack into Gaul that takes the Roman Empire by surprise. There the Brittons are able to capture a number of mechs and begin incorporating their use in military campaigns.

Now, who this work best if the party is a group of La resistance fighting the Romans and maybe stealing a mech here and there or just everyone starts with Mechs FOR CEASER!

>>6419786

Okay: vote for Barbarians?
Mechs, Monsters or Neither

>>6419666
The coolant lines freeze and burst once they reach the mountains, invasion thwarted.

>>6419819

Depends on the barbarians. Guals/Germans get conquered. Brittons get hijacked mechs. Vikings get giant bears.

>>6419810
>Now, who this work best

Eh?

>>6419819
Gaulish Monsters, Brittons get hijacked/ jurry-rigged mechs.

>>6419858
That should be "would this work best if it was...."

Awesome thread is awesome. Save?

Very Yes.

BTW, that pic would be so much better without the half naked girl.

>>6419335


Magitech

>>6419820
>Coolant lines
In DIVINE POWERED MECHA?

Wat

>>6419240

>>6419865
"WE'LL MAKE IT BRITTY!"

Spell-slinging wizards controlling mecha running around beating up each other?

This sounds so familiar....WAIT.

dionysus could have wine-fueled marble statues driven by a guy tripping balls riding inside the head or something

>>6419952

Shredder needs to put on a fucking shirt

will be there like "God Machines" or just plain military mech setting where models are named after gods ?

>>6419977

i would prefer if 'god machines' was the whole premise

>>6419977
Divinely inspired Mechs seems to be the consensus

>>6419977

Deus ex Mecha.

>>6419913
>Coolant lines
Aqueducts. To fill the mech drivers' baths. The Wine tubing may have froze too.

... so how long before the christians start making themselves Jesus powered cyborgs to keep their blood from being used as lubricant in the Roman Mecha?

(Because you know that Cyborg Christians is awesome and a good way for them to fight back...)

>>6419786
>>6419815

Jupiter has told the Romans that he wants Boudica to be captured and brought to his temple, and that the person who does this will be put in line to become the next emperor.

Due to their successes in the Middle East, the Roman Empire pushed forward, conquering India, but has encountered problems trying to push forward into China. While they don't have mechs, the Chinese are able to field an extraordinarily large number of golems in battle. China has since begun to push back, taking control of a large portion of India away from the Romans. Sensing an opportunity, the native Indians have begun to rise up in rebellion against the occupying Romans.

>>6419544
Fuck Venus mecha. Why would they even exist?

I mean the goddess of war was Athena.

>>6420023

Oh fuck. You do not want to screw with Mecha-Kali.

>>6420020
if that happened we'll have Peter The Rock version fighting Mars mk.2?

pic kinda related

>>6420042

... most definitely yes.

>>6420020

Christianity never really gets off the ground in quite the same way. It still starts up and spreads, but due to being turned into mech fuel and the fact that the Roman deities are taking a more active interest in the Empire, they aren't able to achieve anywhere near the same momentum.

>a good way for them to fight back...)

Except, there's the whole bit of "But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." Early Christians took that bit a lot more seriously. It's why they had the habit of getting fed to lions.

Guys, guys. This setting also has room for on-foot mecha defeating potential!

David vs Goliath anyone?

Alright, how do we shoehorn the Spear of Logninus into this? Soul/Mecha-fuel charged spear that goes all, razzle dazzle when it pierces shit?

>>6420027

Athena was Greek, and the goddess of kicking your ass through superior technology and strategy.

Ares was the Greek god of hitting you really hard with a sword.

Mars got started as the spirit that protected your farmland from frost, bugs, and other outside influences a farmer couldn't really control. Then he became the god of protecting your land and property from thieves and bandits. And then, Imperialism.

Somewhere along the way, he got mashed into Ares. Athena became Minerva, who wasn't the GOD OF THE EMPIRE so while she kicked Ares' ass in the Greek pantheon, she was never much of anything to the Romans. There's a bath named after her.

India's kinda cheating
they got like lots of gods to get their models from

>>6420027
>Fuck Venus mecha. Why would they even exist?
Your first sentence answers your second.
It's ROME.

>>6420092

They also have their own MECHANICAL ELEPHANTS.

>>6420027

Because both Mars and Vulcan had a thing for her.

>Gaulish monsters

Bronze boars.

>>6420088

Minerva had a tendency to turn nice, attractive, talented young women into SPIDERS.

>>6420088
Well darn. That sucks.

>>6420123
Awesome. Minerva gets spider-mechs.

Plot: The Biblical monsters of Leviathan, Behemoth, and Ziz are real, giant, fucking huge mechs.

Spoiler: Jesus knew where they are hidden.
Spoiler: That's not the Rock of Gibraltar.
Spoiler: That's not the Caspian Sea.
Spoiler: That's not the Gulf Stream. (Guess where Mount Sinai figures in on this..)
Moving any of the mechs causes devastation on a global scale (Behemoth regulates the Mediterranean, Leviathan is a vital source of water, Ziz is the "trade winds" and global weather patterns.

>>6420123

Err... yeah, she did that, but turning Arachne into a spider was Minerva's way of apologizing.

After their weaving contest, Minerva got pissed that not only had Arachne made a better tapestry, but that the tapestry also made fun of the gods. Minerva tore up Arachne's tapestry and broke her loom. Later Arachne, being depressed about what happened, hung herself. After Minverva cooled down a bit, she saw what Arachne had done and turned her into a spider so that she'd be able to keep weaving.

>>6420077

1) That's not as fun.
2) I think there's exceptions when they realize they're starting to be used for mech parts.

I'm not saying that it gets off the ground, I just thought it was a nice way for their to be an underground rebel faction... that're steampunk/clockpunk style cyborgs.

Churches are as much a place of worship as a chop shop.

>>6420123
That's an Athena story.

Arachne invents a new and interesting weaving technique, and claims it's superior to the one the gods themselves use. Anyone else in the pantheon would have smote her at this point, but Athena, goddess of science, says "Let's have a competition and test it out." Arachne wins, Athena is suitably impressed.

Arachne then proceeds to be a giant bitch about it, saying she's smarter than Athena and better than the gods. That's what gets her spider'd.

Athena likes smart people. She's just as happy for us to use the things we invent as well as the things she invented. Just don't be a dick about it.

The Mongol Empire should be Romes enemy

while rome fights with strong stalwart mecha, the mongol hordes use swift living symbiotic horrors

>>6420223
so much yes! more details?

>>6420215 here.
>>6420192 is what actually happened, though I think I remembered the moral.

Disregard, cocks, etc.

>>6420223

... that'd be kinda neat, but highly anachronistic, unless we're assuming that Rome never collapses.

>>6420253
Well, with the barbarian tribes being less of a threat (God mechs and all) and strength of leadership by divine eddict, it's possible that Rome never collapses when it should have. We should be careful through, too much of that and we end up with Rome in SPESS.

>>6420253
well if Caesar was never assassinated I see reason why we can't fuck with history any further

Rome needs another big power for its mecha legions to war against

>>6420203
>2) I think there's exceptions when they realize they're starting to be used for mech parts.

You might think that, but, at the time, Christianity was much more hardcore about their beliefs. Think about modern day Jehova's Witnesses and how they'll refuse to have blood transfusions even if it means their child will die.

If you really want the early Christians to be militant, you'd have to completely change who Jesus was.

>>6420323
Grimdark son of god?

ALTERNATIVE IDEA.

Each city has four Mechs piloted by soldiers guaranteed to be loyal to Caesar. It functions as a assurance of loyalty (psychological edge, no governor wants to openly betray the empire for their own ends with these things parked at their front door), but the stark truth is that these Mechs aren't capable of facing down large numbers of normal soldiers. They can only kill so many with each swing, and all it takes is for soldiers to get in and strike at their leg joints and they'll fall. They function mostly as psychological safeguards and vital messengers in this role.

Why messengers? They're mechanically driven, one of these can start running and not have to stop until the pilot needs sleep, he will never grow physically tired. Over distances these things can outpace the fastest horse.

When it comes to their battlefield role, the above characteristics are linked. They are fast and act as a psychological deterrent. If you think people break and flee when a unit of heavy cavalry plunges into their flank, wait until you see their reaction when ten giant robots do.

>>6420332
grimdark jesus would be a plus

>>6420290
Well, Rome never collapses but they escalate arms with EVERYONE getting in touch with their gods and demanding shit.

Britain becomes a huge scrapyard, where tinkerers constantly dredge their backyards for parts for their latest monstrosity, give it life with their faith, and keep it running through steampunk/clockwork.

>>6420332 here, Just though of this after posting, but what kind of tone are we going for. Mostly realistic except for the giant godmecha and other foightin' things, Grimdark, hollywood Rome with mechs, etc?

>>6420332
Well suddenly I'm reminded of the comic where Jesus comes down from the cross to personally beat the hell out of the Roman pantheon.

>>6420350

So britain goes steampunk
the Roman Empire gets Mazingers
China gets hordes of golems
the Mongol Empire has Evangelionis

>>6420353
mostly realistic, low magic with the only glaring exception being the various mecha

>>6420290
>well if Caesar was never assassinated I see reason why we can't fuck with history any further

True enough.

>Rome needs another big power for its mecha legions to war against

On the Eastern front they have the Chinese with their army of endless golems, as well as the rebelling Indians.

On the Western front there are the Brittons who are a problem due to stealing Roman mechs and the fact that the Roman military at large is more densely located on the Eastern front in order to counter the Chinese.

Though, I suppose the Mongols could still be staging an invasion either through the Caucuses or Eastern Europe.

>>6420374
I like this. I prefer the standardization of Mecha and Mecha fighting kind of units because it offers a greater potential for individual ascendancy.

That is to say small groups (players?) can build their own Mecha/Anti-Mecha mercenary unit, hire themselves out to warring nations, become bounty hunters, or go hunting for Jewgold.

>>6420406
china could also be besieged by the mongols as well

or they could be an ally or possession of the Mongol Empire

>>6420374
>the Mongol Empire has Evangelionis

I dunno, when I read >>6420223 I felt like they'd be getting roughly human sized creatures of the eldritch horror variety. Thousands of shoggoth-like creatures running across the plains, being directed by mongols on horseback. Instead of the mongols shooting arrows, they have their pets shoot acid.

ANCIENT EGYPTIAN MECHA ENTOMBED BENEATH THE DESERT!

LEGENDS OF BARDOS ISLAND IN GREECE WHERE AN ARSENAL OF MECHA HAVE SLEPT SEALED AWAY FOR CENTURIES

IN INDIA THERE ARE MYTHS OF FLYING MECHS OF THE GODS HIDDEN AWAY IN TEMPLES FROM ANCIENT DAYS

>>6420449

I'd say that the Mongols attacking both China and Rome works the best. Since it keeps Rome from being overwhelmed by the Mongols while trying to deal with the Brittons and Chinese.

>>6420483
Got more of a Guyver feel. Lithe suits of armour, slightly taller than the mounter archers running inbetween the cavalry trying to get close to the Roman mechs

This idea is beyond awesome, and all of you should feel beyond awesome.

>>6419240
Rome giant robots
The Gaul fight against the Romans, but loose
Then the Brittons in their small machines manage t....
this sounds awesome.

>>6420483

I'm >>6420223 , I meant them as piloted eldiritch horrors on scale with the roman stuff, sort of like mashing an eva and a guyver together

>I think we can build a game on two simple concepts.
>113 posts and 14 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

I fucking love you, /tg/.

>>6420515
Mongols all seem like Tekkaman to me, fast, agile OH GOD ITS BOLE.. ARROW RAPE TIME but they don't stay, just demand bodies to be Mongolized, and they will leave you alone.

>>6420558

I like that idea

Can someone get a map and start doodling new lines of conflict and stuff? I kind of imagine this as a Risk style game where you conquer territory, build up your forces, etc.

>>6420596
also works, just using biological mecha instead of mechanical stuff like the Romans

>>6420585
you bring up a good point. What is the scale for Roman stuff? I figured the same as in OPs pic. Everyone else?
(Also Namefagging it up for a bit)

>>6420585
I read that as "eldritch trousers".

So much win.

>>6420617
Hmm, I was thinking Greco-Roman Cthulutech homebrew or something along those lines, but hey, whatever floats your boat

>>6420622
Mongols need to be small and fast, focusing on speed, but having no defense sort of setup. All of them ride on their horses, which have the speed of the wind.

Muhammed is a master of the desert, and commands his desert hound and camels, which can control the sand to a small scale. Egptyian machines are all gigantic, and full of greek parts, but they have ... unusual power which is all ldamaged thanks to the greeks adding their own parts ion haphazardly. Brittons/Saxons use multilegged machines.

So, where are the mongols getting their biomechsuits from?

Is Ghengis Khan the disciple of an Elder God or something?

>>6420646
Yours probably favors the RPG style, I'm not familiar with CT so I can't speak on behalf of it.

I was just thinking along the lines of a boardgame/wargame/minis game. If anything I think brewing up a new set of rules for this would be superior. Something fast and gritty.

>>6420667
Multilegged masters of range and FUCK YOU, They will use dick tactics, burning forests, knocking trees into your legions, the works. It is how they could beat the technically superior Roman Empire.

I don't get it. China was the most technological superpower during ancient times, so why not give them something advanced instead of endless horde of golems?

>>6420628
...eh?

>>6420673
>>6420696
I can see China with the closest thing to actual Mobile Suits, advanced machines, but they are limited by internal struggles, and the machines are more art than warriors. Their actuall weapons are grunt like, but rockets hurt. Rocket spam, and pike tactics make fighting Chinese Dolls ... well its your nightmare. They are powered by... NATURAL GAS which gives them nearly unlimited power at the cost of needing to fuel up.

>>6420696
Explosives, of course. Rocket launchers, grenades, etc. I think they should be on the defensive though. They're a frickin' HUGE country with a massive border. Remember that wall they built? Constantly under siege.

>>6420667
I dont think this would be quite up to the time of Islams formation yet, plus history would be radically different so we don't know if it would even form

For the time being, its Rome and its territories, the Britons, the Chinese, and the Mongols

Most stuff like Egypt and Greece are with Roman territory and use Roman mecha as a base to modify their own style on, though there are still examples of stuff like >>6420502 suggested

>>6420673
He serves Shub-Niggurath, naturally.

>>6420735
don't forget the internal conflicts over the mandate of heaven!

>>6420673
Shamanism? various spirits made manifest? some thing to do with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengriism
>>6420696
As far as I can tell the only reason China doesn't get fuck-awesome tech is because the first person to mention them gave them golem armies. Throw out some supertech ideas

>>6420732

ZAKU GOLEMS!

I like the idea of smallish divine mecha. They should stand between 12 and 18 feet tall. The most agile of them would be slightly faster than a human that size would be but for the most part thay are slow lumbering war engines. Also between the armor plates some sort of substance or vital tissue. So theoretically if infantry were able to swarm over it they might overcome it by damaging this layer enough. Though it would be a feat almost unheard of. Lastly they would be quite rare, its uncommon for more than one to be seen per side in a battle. Most militaries know the names of any mecha they might face.


The mechs are brought to life by the gods, with different designs for each god obviously. Ares(I don't know most of the roman equivalents)would be squat, powerful, and wield a shield and spear. Athena would be more humanoid slightly lighter, a jack of all trades mecha. Artemis would be small, fast but wield a bow fashioned from bones of some mythical beast that is insanely powerful. Aphrodite would would be tall, lean and fast, precise and aesthetically pleasing, and so on.

>1) Ancient Roman Empire
>2) Giant Mechs.

I take it nobody here has heard of Battletech's Marian Hegemony

China's hordes of Zaku Golems powered by Daoist alchemy armed to the teeth with Chinese technolgy like giant repeating crossbows and rockets

>>6420696
Problem with China is that they change dynasty, forget previous dynasty achievements

unless we are going for the "Immortal Emperor of the Heaven To Rule Them All" or something like that, stone golems or huge Terracota warriors as fodders and led by Jade or Ivory Dragon/Guardian similar to that

>>6420785
Mars, Minerva...uhh, can't remember the Artemis equivalent.. but as for a bow, maybe named after a mythical beast, aside from the mecha and the Gods that given them, no indication of actual mythological monsters has been given, oh and Venus

>>6420696
>>6420765

Well, one of the things the Chinese are famous for is the tomb filled with a bunch of clay soldiers. That and each of the major world powers should have its own unique trump card.

Mongolian mecha= Wind Horses?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_horse
(In name at least?)

>>6420805
That's the point. The main grunts change every now and again, just slightly. Dragon would be the gigantic mobile armor, with fire and rockets, but Dragon is too busy being a target of workship in the Imperial City. Ace machines are like the various MS and Gundams from G, with fancy martial arts moves used against other Chinese rather than outsiders (cept when the mongols take over)

>>6420814
we should use Daoism to provide a cohesive center and the aesthetics are decided by the particular dynasty

but over all China likes large numbers of their golem-machines armed with rocketry weapons

>>6420834
those are what the armors ride. yes armor riding horses

>>6420840
>>6420850
combine these and China will be pretty solid

Romans: Mecha
Mongols: Eldritch trousers biomechs.
Chinese: Golems, fireworks, and sometimes a bigass dragon.

>>6420337
>>6420323
>>6420332

I support a grimdark Jesus. Especially if it was the Jews that started out as the basic spare parts.

And why not? We're changing quite a bit already.

>>6420812
Well the idea was that it would be a powerful enough bow to take out other mecha. Bones of a mythical monster was the best material I could think of, but maybe some kind of metal?

>>6420897
>And why not? We're changing quite a bit already.

Yeah, but Rome already has a lot of enemies as it is. Adding the Christians/Jews to the mix as a legitimate opponent may be a bit much.

>>6420897
Jesus has the Ressurection machine, which allows for people to NOT DIE, but it needs his own body and blood, which explains what he meant. He can do miracles if you have enough will, and all his units are water based (fisher men) FISHING ATTACK

>>6420897
well what exactly would be changed here?

Though if ends up with christians getting to ritually sacrifice themselves to turn into angels from Evangelion or similar things that would be fucking awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5dVhNYURnI

Rome is gonna fuck your shit up.

>>6420931

I suggested earlier that their were underground christian rebels that had godpunk (since that seems the best way to explain how the machinery works) cybernetics.

A church is a house of worship... and a place of surgery. Where the soldiers of God are renewed to fight the metal monsters of their persecutors.

>>6420931
thats not grimdark though

>>6420931
NOW THIS IS GRIMDARK

Arachne model mech?

>>6420931
... that works with the eat body/drink blood thing

Christians at first use similar tech from Jews
later when Constantine rebels and breaks away from the Roman empire, he "converts" his troops to Christianity

his mechs will be similar to Rome, but with renaming and variations

also Jesus would have his 12 Apostles, elite mechs derived from Jewish tech
Jesus leads battling against them Romans, eventually Judas betrays him in the battle of the Garden

Que Jesus and his mech cruxified then stabbed that causes destruction of said mech by a grunt Roman mech which creates the Spear of Victory

>>6420915

I wouldn't say entirely legitimate. More like the various resistances during World War II.

>>6420959
>>6420931
COMBINE FOR VICTORY

>>6420805

Now that has to depend actually. Dynasties that were created by Han Chinese actually remembered the previous dynasty achievements. Sui Dynasty was expanding half-way and after Tang dynasty took over, Tang basically carry on Sui's achievement by berserking its enemies all the way to near Middle East.

Same as Song dynasty with its technological achievement which was carry on by Ming dynasty. All of these dynasties were ethnically Han Chinese, until Qing dynasty which was Manchu origin who fucked up everything with its tradition and arrogant.

>>6420993
see >>6420840 and >>6420850 for the solution

So would Sparta, with it's high value on personal strength, be in the opposite position it was known for? They would instead be of the lower class and form the weaker, unassisted by technology armies?

>>6421021
this is a while after Greece's time so that might not have changed

>>6421021
chances are by that time Rome has already conquered Greece

This must be homebrewed.

>>6420921
Jesus is bolted inside of a huge cross machine that the Romans built in an effort to create something which could actually hurt him. He uses it to make Christians not die when they are killed.

>>6420812

Mecha Scorpion Men, anyone?

Their heads touch the sky, their "terror is awesome" and their "glance is death".

>>6421047
the process scars the resurrected individual however

>>6421047

>>6421047

Oh god, that's just worse. If the christians aren't being killed and their blood is being used as lubricant for the gears... then... shit.

You can have a bunch of them crucified... blood being collected by the cauldron.

... equal parts disturbing and fucking awesome!

I suppose the mechs and monsters only form the hero units correct?

Can enough javelin throwers even take down an Colossus of Rhodes or are we going to see more repeating balista (they did exist, in greece) take the field in this world?

>>6421101
no they are standard units

though soldiers still have a place on the battlefield

Before this dies, some one archive!

>>6421101

Maybe constant barrage is unnerving? Heavy missile fire, or lots of it, might force a kind of 'pinning test' as far as game mechanics goes.

The more 'elite' the mech is, the betetr chance of not succumbing to the ol' "shit shit I can hear the bulkead buckling!" freeze.

So there will two types of mechs:
common grunt units
blessed/ God Machines /Hero units

Specially trained Hopolites with highly polished mirror shields take down a roman mech without even loosing a man!

Centurion at the scene reports having heard pilot's cry of dismay turn to shrieks for mercy as the mech overheats then bursts into guttering flame before taking more than tens strides!

>>6421101
Well china has grunts, and I assume most centurions will get a decent grunt machine

RECAP:

major factions
Roman Empire - Mecha
Britons - Reverse Engineer Roman Stuff
Chinese - Golem Armors loaded up with rockets, alchemy, and martial arts
Mongols - Organic Eldritch Horrors that they ride in

minor factions
Christians - Godtech Cybernetic Soldiers with Eva styled Angels for mechs
India - ???

As good as these Christianity ideas are, I'd have to agree that, considering all the established meddling in mortal affairs that the Roman gods and goddesses are doing, there wouldn't be much flocking to a new religion.

If anything, considering Rome's conquest across the Middle East, there wouldn't even be any significant Jewish presence, with Rome instead incorporating many of its elements into their traditional worship ala Egypt and Greece.

>>6421200
thats why they are terrorists

>>6421196
India???
I cant believe no one has mentioned MECHA SHIVA!

>>6421215

"Flying Chariots" are fucking mandatory.

>>6421260
That's not even fair! Those things are armed with fusion ball launchers!

Roman Empire: Expands from Hispania in the west to India in the east and from the Baltic Sea in the north to the Congo in the south. The single largest Empire on the face of the Earth, even without help from their gods, Rome would be well equipped to take on any threat. In battle they use a mix of traditional soldiers as well as a number of mechs crafted by Vulcan. Mechs come in various varieties, modeled after different deities and prominent figures from history. The most powerful mech: Romulus is piloted by the emperor himiself, and while it's usually stationed in Rome, it has been moved to take part in battles elsewhere (generally when the emperor has grown impatient with the progress of his commanders).

Britons: A small band of relatively rag tag barbarians. They managed to fight off the Roman invasion of the British Isles and make a successful counter attack, taking the northern part of Gaul. Using captured mechs and crudely built replicas, the Britons are a thorn in the side of the Empire.

China: Rome's most powerful opponent, China is capable of fielding scores of soldiers, the majority of which are terracotta golems. In addition to crushing opponents under the weight of numbers, the Chinese make use of a number of technological advances, the most notable of which being the use of rockets. Similar to the Roman Romulus, the Chinese have a similar war machine: The Jade Dragon.

Mongols: Swift and deadly, they outfit soldiers in fast biological suits. They're currently pushing down into China from the north as well as into Roman controlled Middle East via the Caucuses.

>>6421200
christian forces are typically only composed of battle hardened men that have died countless times only to be brought back by their lord and savior, augmented with divine machinery woven into the flesh.

Usually they will only field a single "mech" unit, because to call an angel is to sacrifice one of their own. Angels wield bizarre and unearthly powers even compared to the horrific monstrosities of the mongols. As long as the assault is well planned, a single angel is all a christian cell should need.

>>6421196
> Christians - Godtech Cybernetic Soldiers with Eva styled Angels for mechs.

NO. They would have the freaky ass old testament style angels.

The cherubim would be epic. Here's the Biblical description:
>so out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.
>And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.
>And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.
>And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.
>Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.
>As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.
>Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.

tl;dr 4 faces (lion, ox, man, eagle) in the middle of 4 wings , covered in eyes.

>>6421338

Christians: They've rises up in rebellion against the Roman Empire, using their own divinely inspired weapons. Though, thus far, the Roman Empire has done an excellent job keeping them from posing too much trouble, and has even taken to utilizing captured Christian technology to power and enhance their own mecha.

Indians: Having seen an opportunity in the Chinese counterattack, the Indians have started to rebel against their Roman conquerors. Like the Britons, they've started using stolen Roman mechs, but, in addition, they're now lead by avatars of their gods. The most notable of which being Shiva.

>>6421297

Don't forget the nukes.

>>6421342
Eva angels are only the lower ranks, those bad boys are way above them

Mongols w/ eldritch horrors? Fuck yes.

>>6421338
don't forget daoist alchemy for china

What should Africa have, should there be some African Empires running along right now (Ethiopia comes to mind.)

>>6421396
I say leave it for now and lets focus on India as the next minor power

>>6421396

I don't think Rome could handle any more threats from within and without than it already is, really.

I don't get why people fixate on the ROMANS KILLED CHRISTIANS LAWLS thing. Christianity was an upstart sect in the Roman Empire, and was typically seen as a bunch of rabble-rousers. They made a good scapegoat for a while, and so the most vocal Christian groups were persecuted... but it was hardly an overriding thing, and didn't last long. With all the mystery cults running around, as well as local religions and imports from Egypt, the Romans generally didn't care who the hell you worshiped. Hell, the late Roman Empire adopted Christianity as its official religion.

>>6421417
what's your point?

>>6421396

Shamanism, mythical creatures.

"I-See-You" trees, for example.

>>6421417
>the Romans generally didn't care who the hell you worshiped.

For the most part, yes; however, the Romans had a tendancy to deify their emperors, and wanted you to acknowledge that. This is something the Christians wouldn't do, and, given the fact that the emperor of Rome has direct divine mandate now, I think they'd be a bit more strict on this point.

Also, if this does indeed involve Caesar, then the whole of these events would happen about 40 years before the birth of Christ, so unless the conquests in question take nearly a century, they wouldn't really fit within the timeframe.

>>6421396

While it'd be nice to have Africa do something other than being conquered, I think we have enough contenders on the table right now, so any threat from there can wait.

>>6421417
Because using Christian blood for oil is more FUCK YOU DAD

>>6421468

I don't know man, expanding all the way to bordering China would take atleast a couple of decades, considering that the Indians would have been subjugated at one point.

>>6421468

Well, the Romans first got their mech on with Caesar. From there the timeline is sketchy and possibly highly anachronistic with the inclusion of Boudica and the Mongolians.

Here is an interesting metaplot... Atlantis/Zion/Shambala...

Everyone knows that the divine powers have come to duke it out and decide who will reign over the next Earth (I don't play mage so forgive me if this feels close to its metaplot.)

Kind of a way to bring some urgency and explanation to the sudden divine occurrences. Perhaps riffing a bit off of Evangellion where whoever can achieve and hold the Holy City will be able to unlock the root code of the universe (The Masterworker left it there as a backdoor/exploit) and thus determine the form of the next upgrade of the universe...


Looking back over this post I wonder if I need more sleep?

>>6421484
but my dad was a Buddhist

>>6421414
Rome has LEGIONS of mechs. Everyone else (besides china) has mere handfuls.

>>6421338

The Britons/Celts need more than just scavenged mecha. Maybe something Fey themed?

Also, we need Vikings from the frigid north in GIANT SEAFARING MECHA WITH HAMMERS THAT SHOOT THOR'S LIGHTNING.

>>6421484

Well, I would assume that Christians aren't the only ones being used in that fashion. Captured soldiers and criminals would be used similarly.

Since I brought up the christian stuff, little recap.

Jesus is currently a God in the Machine. Trapped in a machine of eldritch design, he is kept their by his Roman wardens until they find a way to destroy him. However, he's turned it into a Ressurection Engine from the inside, feating on his regenerating flesh and blood to resurrect his followers as they die in battle.

Said followers are godtech soldiers, grim battle hardened men with divine machinery woven into their flesh, each one having fought and died numerous times, only for the strength of the Ressurection Engine locked deep away in... let's say Mt. Vesuvius for now... brings them back to life with all their scars. (that probably also leads to the godtech cybernetics, replacing destroyed limbs and such).

The sacrifice of one will bring about Eva inspired Angels to act as their mechs, usually enough to turn the tide of battle.

The sacrifice of the whole cell will summon something old testament-y.

Is that all?

>>6421484
it's been a few decades since grimdark jesus was stuck in the crucifixion machine I'd say

>>6421517
maybe they are using fey warped roman mecha

>>6421517
as awesome as that is, the vikings dont appear for quite some time

>>6421515

Well, depending on how much we play up the eldritch horror thing, the mongols could be comparable in size.

>>6421517

They could also have berserkers who drink druidic potions that give them a large increase in size and strength. Maybe they use changelings to help them steal more mechs.

>>6421553

Maybe a combination of pervasive Fey energies and good ol' fashioned jerry-rigging.

>>6421566

That didn't stop us from adding the Mongolians

>>6421572
I like this myself, combined with some good old druiding its a solid foundation

>>6421582
A VIKING WE WILL GO THEN!

>>6421509

But given the fact that we have multiple religious traditions being real, I don't think that having a single Holy City would be workable.

>>6421602
if anything they are currently neutral in the whole affair and are more than willing to be mercs to any side that pays them

>>6421572
>>6421592

I like this. Creaking monstrosities of wood and steel, warped and twisted versions of the original Roman designs powered by the land itself.

>Jesus is currently a God in the Machine. Trapped in a machine of eldritch design, he is kept their by his Roman wardens until they find a way to destroy him. However, he's turned it into a Ressurection Engine from the inside, feating on his regenerating flesh and blood to resurrect his followers as they die in battle.
Let's do some name-dropping; Pontius Pilate is in charge of that shindig, Judas is the one who got him in there in the first place.

>Said followers are godtech soldiers, grim battle hardened men with divine machinery woven into their flesh, each one having fought and died numerous times, only for the strength of the Ressurection Engine locked deep away in... let's say Mt. Vesuvius for now... brings them back to life with all their scars. (that probably also leads to the godtech cybernetics, replacing destroyed limbs and such).
Not mount Vesuvius. Jerusalem. The machine is big and cross-shaped, and has Jesus inside. After dying, they wake up three days later inside an open tomb.

Other than that, yes.

>>6421572
so the outcome would be like Part metal-machine, part wood/animal/earth/rock ?

also make the Christian Angels rarely pop out, most of the time Christians use old Roman models or Jewish machinery, then if they are really in deep shit, they pray, sacrifice one of their most devoted to a machine similar to the one used on Jesus, thus summoning an Angel to wreck destruction to the unbelievers

>>6421625
maybe some overgrown with odd plants

>>6421612
Different name, same game.

>>6421629
Judas knew that would happen as thus is never branded as traitor but as a keeper of secret lore

>>6421632
right

the person who is turned into an angel is forever lost as their soul is escorted away to heaven when the battle is over or something

>>6421661

Yes!

Judas, he and his followers, oppulent jews of high roman regard, yet are secretly funneling technology to their oppressed brethren.

(Also, any writefags here?)

>>6421677
its not done lightly since they dont have a large pool of followers coming in, stealing shit from the unbelivers is the prefered method

>>6421677

The "angel" that they turn into is the physical manifestation of their soul/faith. When it's destroyed, they cease to exist entirely. This means that they won't go to heaven, and, as such, it's viewed as the greatest sacrifice as person could possibly make.

>>6421616
VIKING MERCENARIES

that way EVERYONE can have vikings

Instead of mecha, the vikings ride around on giant bears.

>>6421681

I'm going to have to do a thorough scouring of the thread so I don't step on any toes, but I'm fin to writefag the shit out of a combination of >>6421677 and >>6421728

This setting needs Amazons

>>6421728

I like this idea.

Has somebody archived this brainstorm on sup/tg/ yet?

>>6421762
Vikings use 'power armor' construced from wood, animal pelts and leather, and some metal and then inscribed with runes to channel the power of their gods into it and they charge into battle in as frenzied berserkers

>>6421853
yes

>>6421788
amazons would just be a special detatchment of warrior women from greece that the Romans could field using mecha inspiring from their gods with roman base framework

since there will Vikings and Norse mythology, then there would be DORFS!

fuck year, they will construct them Viking power armors, mechs and ships that shoots out lightning

>>6421788

Post the other one....

>>6421853

I just tried, but suptg was down (at least for me)

>>6421913

>>6421877
this armor is not to protect the viking warrior from his enemies, but to feed divine strength into his body and keep it from escaping, forcing it to erupt through the man encased with in in raw unbridled strength and fury. Men in these rune-armors can wield weapons that enable them to go toe to toe with enemy giants and slay them.

>>6421941

So, vikings get to wield those impractically big ass swords the way other factions wield normal weapons?

>>6421956
NOT SWORDS YOU FOOL! AXES AND HAMMERS!

We might want to merge the Vikings and Russians into a single faction. That way they can lead out their mercenary services on both sides of the world.

>>6422010
good point

>>6422010
at least have them the same "team" but split it up slightly
Vikings are the rune power-armoured big axe dudes, Russians are Dire-bear cavalry.

Derp derp, drawfaggan.

Back to basics: How big are these mechas? Are they machines, hollow armor or built from a base of spiritually infused mud/dirt?

>>6422043
15 feet on the smallish side
50 on for the big giant things

>>6422043
>How big are these mechas?

Depends on the model. The generic "foot soldier" mecha are 10-12 feet, but the more badass varieties can be significantly larger.

>Are they machines, hollow armor or built from a base of spiritually infused mud/dirt?

They're built by Vulcan, so metal/machine.

Would Vulcan have any help in creating these machines? Say, for instance, do the three Cyclopes who fashioned Zeus's thunderbolts have a Roman equivalent?

>>6422124
rather than Vulcan creating them directly, he poses as the head of some rich businessman/family that provides the plans for the machines

>>6422124

Yeah, three cyclopi.

>>6422148

I dunno about that. I mean, we're already getting direct divine intervention for the Romans. Jupiter stepped forward to attest to Caesar's legitimacy as emperor, and has put a bounty on Boudica (so he can have sex with her).

I don't see why Vulcan wouldn't create at least the first batch of mechs himself.

>>6422170
First batch yes, also this would be limited production types which technically Rome's most powerful units

>>6422170

But the question is why would Vulcan stop production and hand the job down to humans?

>>6422190

The first batch - all hand made by Vulcan.

The vast majority of subsequent mechs are made by the Romans themselves, but Vulcan still makes some of the higher quality mechs himself.

>>6422043
>How big are these mechas?
Grunts are probably twice as tall as a man. Things like the Christian's angels are likely taller than the tallest castles.

>Are they machines, hollow armor or built from a base of spiritually infused mud/dirt?
Depends on the god. Roman ones are machines. Chinese ones are terracotta. Mongol ones are biological. The christian ones are probably hybrid, but primarily mechanical.

>>6422211

Because the Romans need a shit load more mechs than Vulcan could produce by himself, and they need mechs at the edge of the Empire while those that Vulcan makes would all be in the city of Rome.

>>6422234

I'd say that the Christian mechs should be clay/biological/unidentified divine substance.

>>6422239
Why would Vulcan not just build a factory? Or something like the Fatboy from SupCom?

>>6422247

If the Christians had mechs, I'd say they'd be of the stolen Roman variety, but I don't think they especially need them given their ability to summon angels.

>>6422247
I disagree with the clay bit, but other than that I agree.
Could also be white shrouds and shit worked in.

>>6422259
The angels are mechs.

>>6422259

They'd use stolen and reformed Roman mechs.

There ability to summon Angels requires a sacrifice.

That and their footsoldiers are cybernetic warriors.

>>6422254

Even without a factory he would still be the god of blacksmiths. He can probably get work done pretty quickly.

>>6422272

And sacrifice fits in perfectly with Christianity, which I think should take center stage over just making them into 'Britons, but with Angels'.

>>6422259

Christian mechs are the "angels" that worshipers can sacrifices themselves to turn into.

>>6422254

I dunno, I think the creation of a factory would sorta clash with his image as the blacksmith god. He'd probably see it as an insult to have his mechs be mass produced instead of being lovingly crafted by hand.

>>6422302

Meh, turning them into mechs kinda takes away the interesting previous idea of actual eldritch-like angels, made manifest in our world through faith and zeal.

>>6422321

Calling them mechs is mostly to distinguish them from the real angels.

>>6422321
Note that "Mechs" here is a very loose term. Most of the various mechs are not primarily mechanical. Mongols aren't at all, for example.

>>6422345

But what about making them the real angels? If the Roman pantheon has taken a personal stake in the world, Faeries are helping Briton, An avatar of Shiva has come to help win India freedom, ect., why can't they call upon Angels?

In addition to sky chariots, India could have humanoid mechs with hundreds of arms.

>>6422366
There are those too, they're just really rare, because it takes a whole cell to get them to swing by.

>>6422366
I'm down with this. Might as well not half-ass it.

>>6422366
>why can't they call upon Angels?

They can.

Christians have three basic types of units. Pseudo-necron foot soldiers, "mechs" that are the physical manifestation of an individual's faith and soul, and finally Angels.

The Angels are capable of taking on a large number of Roman troops singlehandedly, and only the most powerful of the Roman mechs are capable of actually standing toe to toe with them; however, they require the sacrifice of an entire Christian cell and are used only in the most dire of circumstances.

>>6422366

Have the Christian angels be large glowing machines that have some strange power source that is almost infinite. Pic related, from pso but hey, matches pretty well.

Rome is falling, her enemies grow stronger and closer to her heart. As Barbarian hordes surround the dying city, her very soul bursts from the doomed citadel.

The monstrosity is in the shape of man, but with an enormous furnace making up it's outstretched potbelly. The contents of the furnace, heated to a red, molten nothingness, seep out of it's belly as the monster struggles in vain to feed itself with the town, the villagers, and the barbarians alike, all while fighting off Rome's greatest rivals.

Once the battle subsides, the monster sits and rests in the very middle of the wrecked city. It's flames, over the length of several decades burn out, and finally, grow quiet.

>>6422464

Nah, when we say angels, we mean of the freaky ass old testament variety like >>6421342

>>6422464
I'd imagine angels as eldricht horrors, taking physical form/personifying the souls that were sacrificed to create them.

>>6422501
HOW DO YOU FIGHT THAT

>>6422513

Personification of the souls sacrificed to create it is more along the lines of the previously mentioned lower tier 'mechs'. They way I see it, for actual Angels the sacrifices are less of giving up their identity in order to construct a machine, but of a ritual used to bind a traditionally metaphorical entity into the physical plane.

Still... writefagging.... as hard as I can....

I'd imagine a more humanly visage for Christian angel, but it appears in three ways:

Beautiful, majestic beings for believers
Ugly, horrifying monsters for enemies
Formless energy thing for neutral standpoint (like creatures or nature worshipers)

>>6422535

You don't. You get your foreskin ripped off.

So all of this- are we talking an RPG, or a 40K style miniatures game?

>>6422558

If we want to do the perception thing, we should just have it with believers/nonbelievers.

Believers see something pure and beautiful. Nonbelievers see something incredibly fucked up.

Pic somewhat related?

I'm classifying the kinds of units fielded by our various nations. Also, I'd like to suggest a date a bit further into the future for the setting. To be discussed in a bit.

Prime - The most powerful unit available to these forces.
Secondary - Pale shadows of the Prime, these units are knockoffs at best.
Tertiary - These units are cheap, mass produced and widely available to the faction.

So for example, Rome:
Prime - The "God Machines", the machines created by the Gods themselves. Vulkan's hands have forged this steel into the finest killing machine in the vast Empire. This untouchable killing machine is armed with cannons powered by the fury of Vulkan and the wrath of Mars.

Secondary - Unable to keep up with the demand of the Roman Army for more God Machines, Vulkan instead inspires other blacksmiths to forge for him. These machines are at best, 12 feet tall and armed with sword and shield.

Tertiary-As every metalsmith available to the Empire slaves night and day over a hot forge, there are bound to be mistakes. These plates of steel and crafted Iron are still brushed by the hand of their Gods and provide greater protection than normal metals of the same variety. They are repurposed for infantry as arms and armor.

Is this autosaging? Should I dump my writefaggotry in a new thread?

>>6422571
Rome is so goddamned WH40K that I don't even KNOW.

>>6422571

I think we're homebrewing this as a thought exercise more than anything else. Though, it could make a neat setting for someone to do a RPG in.

>>6422579

The thread hit the bump limit a while back. We have about 300 posts.

The actual true Angels are the weird crap from the old testament and Revelations. They're probably some of the most powerful beings in the setting, only the actual gods are of comparable power. So Shiva can take them. Ares can take them. But anything else is fucked.

>>6422581
Empire was pretty heavily based on them. so... yeah.

>>6422596
Been a channer for about two years and I never even knew it did that. Hot damn.

someone should create a new thread

>>6422576

I think it may be worth noting, that even among the God Machine mechs, there will still be variation in strength and purpose. Whereas, with the Christians, one Angel is gonna be about as badass as another Angel.

>>6422623

>>6422603
>They're probably some of the most powerful beings in the setting, only the actual gods are of comparable power. So Shiva can take them. Ares can take them. But anything else is fucked.

I'd say that some of the most powerful mechs fielded by the Romans might be able to take them. But said mech would still need backup from an army and it's unlikely that one would be stationed nearby.

>>6422654
I was talking one-on-one. With sufficient backup, other things could take them too.

>>6422654

Probably shouldn't make them too powerful. A god-empowered machine should be able to hold its own against an angel one-on-one.

New thread:
>>6422623

The primary tactics used against christians is capture and mind wash. Originally they were outright killed but it has been discovered that death makes them more powerful. Their whole culture is based on death, after all.

Unfortunately there are times when christians will off themselves in favor of more powerful, but fortunately temporary troops. In this case one must buckle up and defend. Prevent as many casualties as possible and wait for the lost souls to fade from this realm, and you will have made their sacrifice for nothing.

While these strategies can be difficult to carry out and a downright pain, it is necessary.