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    57 KB Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:16 No.6645341  
    How would you make a Unified Setting without it crashing and burning and half the board hating it?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:17 No.6645348
    make it on my own and never post on 4chan.
    >> Christmas Ape 11/10/09(Tue)07:18 No.6645352
    Depends, what am I unifying?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:19 No.6645355

    a clusterfuck

    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:20 No.6645362
    The original unified setting was supposed to take everything that /tg/ loves and make a setting out of it.
    Half of /tg/ hated it.

    So, how you would you unite that which /tg/ loves in a superior fashion?
    >> Christmas Ape 11/10/09(Tue)07:22 No.6645374
    I probably wouldn't pretend /tg/ is some kind of unified groupthink, recognize that for every poster who loves an element there are three who are indifferent, eight who want it used a different way, and four who are the same troll posting negative comments about in rapid succession. Then I'd give up on it for a fool's errand and write a setting I enjoyed.
    >> Lex the DM 11/10/09(Tue)07:24 No.6645385
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:25 No.6645389
    in order for it to work you must first discover the Grand Unified Theory.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:27 No.6645395
    By "Unified Setting" you mean a setting everyone builds and agrees upon, yes? So democracy?

    Short answer is you don't. Look at current democracy. Not streets-are-on-fire bad, but not exactly sensible in a lot of ways.

    Trouble is, most people are too stupid to design things well. If you're asking everyone to contribute, you're pretty much making an inferior product from the start.

    Next, not everyone is going to take it seriously- some people will troll you or knee-jerk add things that seem neat in the split second between reading and posting. So your product is significantly decayed or in need of repair/guidance. Which is hard to do when the point is specifically to avoid "I'll decide everything."

    Thirdly, most people have a piss-poor grasp and interest in continuity, scale, and generally related concepts. Many, many people don't care what the rest of the setting looks like when adding their ideas, so you're likely to end up with elements that don't fit very well together, because frankly, the people who suggested them were more concerned with "steampunk pandas are cool" than the fact that there's a dark, magic-fearing empire right next to it. So your product ends up disjointed and shitty on the whole, even if there's nothing innately retarded about any specific region or feature.

    Finally, people love to rage. Avoiding a setting that half the board doesn't hate requires avoiding EVERYTHING- like cliches and different for the sake of different, plus it can't take itself to seriously, and it shouldn't be overly comedic, so...

    TL;DR Past a certain author size, you're fucked.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:33 No.6645442
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    Fucking apples bear what the fuck
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:35 No.6645454
    Look, it's simple. You make TWO Unified Settings, with half of the board hating one and half of the board hating the other.

    Then you get them to fight, joining both of them.


    (Admittedly, this is a simplification; it's very possible that some people might like both, and some might like neither. For those that don't like either, you'd have to make perhaps a third or fourth setting, and mash those together.. too many settings added together may cause backlash though, so you've got to get the balance down right)
    >> Lex the DM 11/10/09(Tue)07:40 No.6645495
    Not a bad idea. Have multiple material planes catering to different tastes but part of the same overall cosmology.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:42 No.6645513
    /tg/ does loev Planescape
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:43 No.6645526
    You simply cannot, as half the board will whine about it not being 40k or dorf fortress nomatter what you do.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:50 No.6645578
    Interesting concept.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:51 No.6645591
    The dorf fort players are more open to creative stuff than most, usually.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:53 No.6645608
    Planescape is an unimaginative shit. It's what've led to the death of 2e
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:55 No.6645622
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    Less furries, obviously.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:56 No.6645640
    steampunk pandas? this idea fascinates me.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:58 No.6645660
    steampunk pandas? this idea bores me.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:59 No.6645664
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    Pick a better choice of trolling. The Unified Setting fags are used to it being called furry, and will ignore you. Nobody else cares.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)07:59 No.6645670
    Doesn't mean the core idea lacks potential, though.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:00 No.6645678
    here's the problem with that, anything not human is furry.

    That only leaves Humans, Short Drunk Humans, Short Thieving Humans, Gay Treehugger Humans, Emo humans, and various other variations.

    This is boring.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:01 No.6645684
    I care. This is the first mention of the Unified Setting project that i've paid any attention to, and i'm simply appalled by what was in its wiki entry. How the fuck anyone thought that was a good idea is beyond me.
    >> Lex the DM 11/10/09(Tue)08:04 No.6645701
    >Implying that all non-humans have to have animal traits
    Geez, it's like you've never heard of warforged, elementals and changelings before.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:04 No.6645710

    How is it trolling if it's the truth? Doesn't the majority of /tg/ loathe furries?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:05 No.6645714
    You can't.

    There will never be a unified setting.

    Unless half of /tg/ organises and begins to travel travel the world eliminating those who would oppose their Unified setting. Which would be a setting it itself.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:08 No.6645731
    >Which would be a setting it itself.
    FUND IT!
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:09 No.6645734
    I almost raged at your implication that those were furries... until i read your post in context and realized you were saying the exact opposite.

    Well played.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:09 No.6645737
    I take it you haven't heard of the current definitions of "furry", Warforged = Anthropomorphic Toaster, Elemental = Anthropomorphic Rock and Changlings are just more gay humans.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:10 No.6645742

    run it with Mage: the Ascension and I'm sold
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:10 No.6645746
    Pretty sure the majority doesn't give a fuck. If you consider monster girls to be furry (and, with as loose a definition of furry as >>6645622 has, they should probably count) then the majority of /tg/ is furry.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:11 No.6645752
    I vote BRP.
    >> Lex the DM 11/10/09(Tue)08:12 No.6645754
    Would that make the Grim Reaper a furry as he is an anthropomorphosation (what the hell did I just write?) of the concept of Death?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:13 No.6645760
    The vast majority of monstergirls arent furry. You can start a monstergirl thread on /d/ without any trouble, but no way could you start a successful furry thread.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:13 No.6645761
    pretty much, although "dead human" works too.
    >> Lex the DM 11/10/09(Tue)08:13 No.6645766

    This just in: The Grim Reaper is a Furry. -.-'
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:14 No.6645770
    I actually much preferred the previous, less serious attempt, which consisted mostly of fa/tg/uys populating the world with caricatures of the types of poster encountered here. So we had stuff like hairy creatures with a propensity for nerd rage called neckbeards, weeaboo city-states whose cultural exports were considered obnoxious abroad, I think there was some kind of steampunk nation as well, and the Mordor of the setting seemed to be inspired by FATAL.

    The fact we could all agree beforehand that it was supposed to be intentionally stupid made it superior to the Unified Setting, in my opinion.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:15 No.6645778
    depends on what monstergirls are posted, I have seen bitching over straight-up anime catgirls.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:17 No.6645787
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    Used to be this chart was practically required reading for posting on 4chan.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:18 No.6645791
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    Alternate version.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:18 No.6645794
    inb4 dangerously cheesey
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:18 No.6645795
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:19 No.6645802
    Wow. I hadn't seen that one before.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:20 No.6645807
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    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:21 No.6645815
    Furry, Furry, Furry, Bestiality.
    Everything else is justification.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:25 No.6645837
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    Here you go, you've earned it.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:26 No.6645844
    If you like furry porn that's fine, but if it's part animal part human, it's furry.

    Fapping to partly animals is probably less wierd than some of the other shit you fap to. And it doesnt mean you have to be a furry or any of that shit. It's just porn.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:29 No.6645859
    Like how fapping to convincing traps doesn't make you gay.
    >> ---===~[Post Content Grader]~===--- [Has Graded 23,496 Posts] Last Board Graded: /v/ !sGg4wWUHlU 11/10/09(Tue)08:30 No.6645871
    how does bear know what apples is?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:31 No.6645873
    ok, everyone see this thread here? this is why the unified setting, and any setting designed by group is doomed.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:31 No.6645881
    if you know they are men than yes, it's gay.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:32 No.6645883
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:35 No.6645901
    What if it's linetrap?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:48 No.6645997
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    Oh, well that's okay then.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)08:52 No.6646033

    In that case you are either gay or have low standards when it comes to what you find attractive.
    >> Christmas Ape 11/10/09(Tue)08:52 No.6646037
    ....eh. Solid 7, but no better.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:03 No.6646125
    Do you only fap to 10s?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:06 No.6646152
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    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:11 No.6646188

    They'd all laugh if you told them what you knew. The people who haven't seen the things you've seen. The gatherings in shadowed places, the miracles, the secret war that rages right under their noses over apparently meaningless trivia. And they never know a thing, because it's simpler that way. They don't need to worry about what it all means.

    But still the secret war rages on.

    No-one quite knows exactly how it happened, or, indeed what it was, but on the 12th of December, 2009, at approximately 1215 GMT, every fa/tg/uy in the world collapsed into a coma, lasting for 12 days. When they awoke, they were changed.

    Something within them had been warped and altered. Personalities were twisted: old priorities of friendship, family, even love, were broken and replaced with fanatical devotion to nebulous ideas and concepts: 40k, D&D, furries, trolling, Lovecraft, WoD. Bodies were mutated into forms more befitting their new ideologies. And perhaps most terrifying of all, they exhibited strange mental powers related to their personal manias and obsessions.

    At first, confusion reigned. Bizarre stories of nerds and geeks murdered in seemingly impossible ways cropped up in news stories around the world. Roleplaying groups split in bitter conflicts, entire societies raged in a bitter and disorganized civil war. Eventually though, one group attempted to impose some peace on the others. The Unified Setting, a tenuous amalgam of a multitude of apparently conflicting groups and ideas rose up, and declared a meeting to try and end the petty skirmishes around the world.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:12 No.6646196

    Representatives of every faction turned up at a secret meeting, organised to try and hammer out a peace deal, and at first, there was some success. The inclusion of certain clauses and rules irked some, but everyone tried to make concessions for the sake of peace. Even the Furries were given some small say in the future of Ascended /tg/. Peace looked inevitable.

    But a malevolent force moved amongst the delegates. Trolls, grown powerful and terrifying now, moved from assembly to assembly, spreading rage and distrust, heightening the already stretched tensions. Eventually, the Troll-lord, a hideous abomination of a man, barely even human now, his trollface a mask of unbridled glee rose above the countless spoke the words that marked the beginning of the true war.

    >Sage for Unified Setting.

    The troll-magic had worked its dark power well. Tensions and disagreements erupted into open violence and the meeting broke down in the first battle of the War. The survivors fled back to their factions and set about preparing for a war that could only end with the total annihilation of all who would question them.

    This is nerd-rage given form. This is madness made real.

    This is the Meta-War.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:13 No.6646204
    It's like the highlander but with roleplaying systems...

    DO IT.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:13 No.6646211
    My side is chosen.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:15 No.6646223
    It's why any group design is destined to be awesome.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:16 No.6646233
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    >Trolls, grown powerful and terrifying now, moved from assembly to assembly, spreading rage and distrust, heightening the already stretched tensions. Eventually, the Troll-lord, a hideous abomination of a man, barely even human now, his trollface a mask of unbridled glee rose above the countless spoke the words that marked the beginning of the true war.
    >> Lex the DM 11/10/09(Tue)09:16 No.6646241

    Good God. It's... It's... BEAUTIFUL!
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:17 No.6646245
    I love you.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:24 No.6646281
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    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:30 No.6646316

    Cthulhu-fags were some of the most changed by the Event. Though like with other fa/tg/uys, mundane eyes wouldn't see it, their bodies had warped into strange and alien new designs, and some had begun to manifest powerful psychic abilities. These once-men set about organising themselves into cells of 3, so that they could spread over the world and extend their sphere of influence. The centre of their power, however, lies in Lovecraft County. This is where the head of their order dwells, and he has issued a commandment to his followers. They must find a way of resurrecting Lovecraft, so that he may show them the way. Previous experiments with Essential Saltes have succeeded in raising only the Livliest Awfulness. So now Cthulhu-fags delve deep into forgotten and forbidden lore from all over the world, seeking a way to bring back their dead master to lead them in wiping the Earth clean.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:31 No.6646324
    Generally, Lovecraftians are resistant to the attacks of trolls. However, there is one piercing cry that forever remains effective.

    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:35 No.6646351

    Sometimes Trolls have to fall back on:

    >Dagon is the human name of Cthulhu
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:39 No.6646387
    Saved for later re-appreciation. If this gets much more awesome, you guys had better archive it for me. Goodnight.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:42 No.6646415
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    So yeah, Trolls.

    Trolls never aligned themselves to any faction. They were shunned by everyone, mainly because of how the Event had changed them. Their faces stuck in hideous, grinning troll-faces, they now gained sustenance and power from the rage of others, and use this power in working devious and mind-affecting magics.

    They move secretly between all the factions, spreading lies, misquotes and rage, drinking in the rage that results and destroying those who would dare to stand in their way. The Trolls, under the direction of the sinister and reclusive Troll-Lord, now seek a way to introduce their powers into some of the more mainstream and well-known trolls. They wish to spread their madness beyond the limitations of the ascended and into the mundane world.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:44 No.6646429

    You'd probably become a WoD specialised troll, infiltrating WoDders and fanning the flames of the already bitter New/Old civil war.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:47 No.6646445
    That is what I like doing... b-but I don't do it all the time! Honest! Also, what system would this setting be run on? M&M?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:48 No.6646455

    hey, no recursions.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:49 No.6646464
    Well, we DO need an ultra system to govern everything by...BRP?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:51 No.6646472
    How about 40kfags, DnDfags, drawfags and furfags?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:52 No.6646477
    How about we stop using the suffix of -fag?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:53 No.6646486

    How about you go jerk off in a fursuit.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:53 No.6646488
    We've forgotten Magic: The Gathering and Deadlands folk.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:54 No.6646492
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    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:55 No.6646499
    Because, that'd be icky :3c

    -fag is silly. If you like it, you're silly, too.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:55 No.6646502
    How about no?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:56 No.6646504
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:57 No.6646513
    Sure is srs bsns in here.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:57 No.6646515
    I'd do WoD mortals, but with Exalted - style mutations.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:58 No.6646524
    protip: 4chan is silly.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:58 No.6646526
    It should be something that isn't a faction, though. Which is why I suggested M&M and BRP since those are stand alone systems.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:59 No.6646536

    40kfags are by far the most numerous of all the Ascended. They gained powers based on whichever army they collected, Space Marine players grew bigger, and remain encased in metallic power-armour, Ork players gained great strength at the cost of some intellectual functions and so on. Pity the poor Imperial Guard players.

    40kfags spend much of their time in internal conflict, mock wars between the various different armies, but whenever they are threatened, especially by their hated enemies, the manly men of Warmachine, they unify together to fight alongside each other.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)09:59 No.6646537
    Protip:NO U!
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:00 No.6646545

    >one person writing this stuff

    Geez, give me time or start writing it yourself.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:01 No.6646555
    We can refer to the ascended population of neckbeards collectively as 'Those Faggots'.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:01 No.6646557
    Easy there, tiger, I wasn't talking about your writing, I was just talking about the thread in general.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:02 No.6646571
    What's wrong with fa/tg/uys or eloquen/tg/entlemen? I mean, it does revolve around /tg/, right?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:03 No.6646580

    You'd be shunned. As trolls became more pronounced, most members of your old clique would expel you.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:04 No.6646588

    Drawfags are kinda split. Some of them, the older ones, retreated to an isolated fortress in Antarctica. There, along with their dedicated followers, they have left the other ascended fa/tg/uys to their petty squabbles.

    Other drawfags, newer ones, have either joined one of the factions or act as some of the few neutral factors in this great war. These travelling minstrels swear allegiance to no game and go wherever their heart takes them.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:04 No.6646594
    Sure, but if we're adding the '-fag' suffix to everything... The layman will know us nothing but a group of fags. Simply put.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:05 No.6646603
    But, my trolling is of the utmost subtlety. I'm pretty sure my espionage trolling rank is maxed out.

    Fuck, am I a min/maxer?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:05 No.6646604

    That works. Trolls are like, Deep Ones I guess. At first, they seem to fit in with one faction or another, but as they absorb more and more rage, their troll-faces become more and more pronounced till they cannot keep up the fa├žade any longer and go to join their shunned brethren.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:07 No.6646619
    B-but...I like WoD... ;_:
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:08 No.6646632
    So, are we trying to cover up the fact that we're SUPER NERDS now by pretending to own a gay club? I'm confused.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:08 No.6646635

    As time goes by, certain trolls begin to try and break free of the rulership of the Troll-Lord and integrate back into their factions. Their trollfaces never fade though, so it is rare indeed that a redeemed troll is accepted back in normal society. Instead they must return to face the Troll-Lord's infinite mercy.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:13 No.6646657
    So, I must wrestle with the troll within me?

    Do I troll?

    Or do I play the game?

    That would surely be a battle of wills, but it'd be worth it. I love WoD. Can't I just troll rogue WoD players?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:15 No.6646674
    I need to go. Hopefully this thread will still be here when I get back, I can see it going places.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:18 No.6646680
    That's what we are.

    Also, I like the troll stuff. However, new idea: Everyone is a troll. Everyone gains power from rage, and everyone gains a more pronounced trollface as they take this power in.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:20 No.6646692
    A troll I am lest a troll I become. I don't do it often but I love trolling Exaltedfags. Nothing in this world gives me greater pleasure than to see them raging.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:22 No.6646708
    WoD troll here. Best way to do it is to start taking about how weeaboo the game is.

    This would make more sense most likely. I mean, c'mon /tg/ can you honestly say you've NEVER trolled?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:24 No.6646719

    Every fa/tg/uy has a potential to become a troll, if they give in to their inner trollface. The method or subject of trolling is irrelevant, what matters is the attempt to provoke rage, which becomes an end unto itself as the trollface takes over.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:24 No.6646720
    >WoD troll here. Best way to do it is to start taking about how weeaboo the game is.

    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:26 No.6646737

    I prefer pointing out that Exalted is the pre-history of the World of Darkness. Their tears are delicious.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:27 No.6646742
    The Unified Setting did have cool stuff amidst the sucky ideas. For example, take the Burmecians: so very, very furry. I can understand people rejecting them.

    But one of the ideas that came from the Burmecians was that, if their city had a giant "permanent rain" effect (as it did in the game they come from), a reason for that could be that it was actually sitting on top of a giant magic water-powered organ of the gods, essentially creating an enormous stone music-and-water themed dungeon with tunnels and chambers that shifted and changed and had water-powered mechanisms all over the place, with millennia of history in which all manner of creatures and treasures could have found their way inside.

    Which is one of the better ideas for a dungeon I've ever heard.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:27 No.6646743
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    Problem, bro?

    So, would trolls work out kind of like how all exalted have that tiny sliver of evil in them? Troll lord would serve as that being who tries to get everyone to give in to their inner trolling.

    Works sometimes, but it mostly devolves into a debate with no real butthurt.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:29 No.6646756
    No, never.

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    This is what the game will turn into. The call of the Troll is just to great.
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    Someone's going to jam touhou into this sideways somehow.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:36 No.6646796
    I fail to see how Touhou is /tg/.
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    Touhoufags are a notorious, virulent brand of weeaboo known for their devastating minmaxed bullet hell attacks and the aura of rage manifested by their presence. Unlike your usual weeaboo, the touhoufag is not content with merely following the ultra leader of GRORIOUS NIPPON. Instead, they draw their power from a higher plane of existence known as Gensokyo, where everyone is an overpowered little girl.

    The touhoufag's ultimate goal is to subvert reality itself and turn all others into their kind, a chilling yet tempting proposition for some, exploiting the wish of the average fa/tg/uy to become the little girl. Due to their minmaxed stats, they have powerful physical, trolling and memetic attacks, but are themselves weak to counterattack, as their little girl form gives them -4 STR, and they are also easily trolled by others. Ranged attacks and sage are usually employed against touhou.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:37 No.6646811
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    Exactly! And yet someone, somewhere, is going to shoehorn it in!
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:37 No.6646813
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    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:38 No.6646820
    Expert trolling. Is there no way to stop the toHOES? (I'm so clever)
    >> Blackheart !!FYEhWpAirtN 11/10/09(Tue)10:38 No.6646821
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    And thus I came.
    >> Blackheart !!FYEhWpAirtN 11/10/09(Tue)10:40 No.6646827
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    If everyone becomes a touhoufag, then it won't bother anyone. Other option is suicide. :3
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:41 No.6646833
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    >Implying I wouldn't eradicate all the toHOES from existence.

    It has begun.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:44 No.6646851
    >impliers are implied to be a race incapable of communicating of their own initiative. instead they can only imply implications through the rephrasing of others' statements

    >impliers usually spend most of their time implying implications at their fellow impliers, until the mass of implications grows too great and some wander off in search of more implications to imply.

    >implications: impliers are implied to be able to implicitly mimic the abilities of other fa/tg/uys
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:45 No.6646858
    >implying that it has begun.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:46 No.6646863
    >Implying that this unified setting isn't starting to encompass more things than /tg/.

    Didn't we do a 4chan setting already?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:47 No.6646867
    >Implying it hasn't begun.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:48 No.6646875
    >implying that impliers may have originated from outside /tg/, however they have since adapted to implying on /tg/
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:49 No.6646880
    Avatarfags should be embodiments of certain aspects of teej, whose only unifying trait is the aura of rage and hatred they spread as they wander the land.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:49 No.6646883
    The things that are /tg/ are Core Classes.

    Anything not /tg/ (including Tohou and Dorf fort) are non-core classes. There is some social stigma between the two.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:50 No.6646897
    No avatarfags, because that'd mean we'd have to do, namefags and tripfags and anonymous and that isn't fun.

    >Implying that it isn't a 4chan general thing.
    >> Blackheart !!FYEhWpAirtN 11/10/09(Tue)10:51 No.6646899
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:51 No.6646912

    Also, the core classes themselves were published in several different books, making it unclear (and a common subject of low-level trolling) which of the classes are actually core.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:52 No.6646913
    I'm okay with this.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:53 No.6646920
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    All hail the Troll Lord!
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:54 No.6646937
    There have been rumors of one group of individuals that are nearly impervious to trolling... They go simply by "the Classics". They embody the ideals of good ol' fashioned fun. Card games, board games and the like. It's nearly impossible to make them rage and thus make excellent points of defensive.
    >> Blackheart !!FYEhWpAirtN 11/10/09(Tue)10:56 No.6646952
    Dark Ritual x 3.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:58 No.6646966

    Variations exist, of course. For instance, Mornington Crescent is known for sacrificing some defensive ability in favor of movement.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:59 No.6646971
    >implying dorf fort isn't core
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:59 No.6646974
    I fucking hate you and your whole race.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)10:59 No.6646978
    "What? No, we said bring a normal deck of cards. The game is poker. Got it?"

    It's an awesome game, but it doesn't belong on /tg/.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:00 No.6646983
    >implying dual-classing between dorf and implier is a good idea
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:01 No.6646992
    >It's an awesome game, but it doesn't belong on /tg/.

    +1 trollface
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:01 No.6646993
    Your mom doesn't belong on /tg/.

    Also royal flush after first deal.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:01 No.6646998

    Dorf fort is part of /tg/, like it or not. So are X-COM, Baldur's Gate, and any RPG released by Bioware.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:03 No.6647009

    Also, Paradox strategy games. Although I'd say dorf fort is the only one of these discussed commonly enough to get its own class. But then again no one's stopping anyone from writefagging...
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:03 No.6647016
    Baldur's gate and X-come and any other rogue like, yeah, but dorf fort isn't traditional gamean, bro. I welcome it on this board like many others, but it's not /tg/. Like it or not. It still gets a class, so stop whining.

    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:05 No.6647028
    >Dorft fort
    >doesnt belong on /tg/

    You know what man? Fuck your shit. Where does Dorf Fort belong then? /v/ I suppose you'll say. /v/, where no one will seriously discuss anything that isnt either Team Fortress 2 or the flavor of the week? No. Fuck that. Dorf Fort belongs in /tg/. It's the only place where it will thrive, where it will be discussed both seriously and with fervor.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:06 No.6647037
    +1 rage

    roll for trollface
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:06 No.6647038

    One post isn't whining, broseph.


    The setting should never make it clear if the fa/tg/uys are all just batshit insane or not.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:07 No.6647048
    Bull spite! I've had many a good dorf fort conversations on /v/! They just weren't as good as /tg/'s.

    Sorry, I just read it that way. But, I'm in favor of us all be crazy and trying not to be.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:07 No.6647050
    We must compromise lest this falls to the Trolls and Greens.

    Dorffort falls under the Commander Keen Doctrine and thus, although truly a /v/ideogame, has been given deemed a grea/tg/ame.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:08 No.6647051

    Quantum Mechanics tells us that all possible outcomes of any event actually occur in alternate universes. What if this were also true of game settings? Of any work of fiction from the oldest myth to the shittiest fanfic?

    That's Elseworlds. It's the limbo between settings from which all worlds are accessible (except maybe things Ravenloft which are one-way).
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:10 No.6647062
    I'm willing to concede to this. Should we say that the issue of it being a core class or not is still hotly debated?

    Tell me more.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:11 No.6647076
    Put it into a spaltbook class if you must. As long as we're in agreement that DorfFort has a place here.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:12 No.6647085

    We could just include dorfs as an outright core class and make blatant references to dorf fortress.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:14 No.6647093
    I've been saying that from the start, broseph. I was just disputing whether is should be core or not.

    I don't know...
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:16 No.6647102

    The concept of dorfiness on /tg/ extends far beyond dorf fortress. Dorf fortress just happens to be one possible outlet for it. Although I guess dorfs should be a race, not a class... do we even have races?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:17 No.6647104
    Our classes ARE our races. It will just manifest differently.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:22 No.6647139
    >Due to their minmaxed stats, they have powerful physical, trolling and memetic attacks

    That's what the legion has, danmaku. But Touhoufag, the prime, he has the power of Optimization. The power to look at anything, any object to any person to any tactical formation, and with 30 minutes of examination and talking, can turn it into the best form of what it's supposed to do. Like Shirou's tracing, only improvement. Real terrifying ability.

    >but are themselves weak to counterattack, as their little girl form gives them -4 STR

    Not seeing what Strength has to do with counterattacking.

    >Ranged attacks and sage are usually employed against touhou.

    ... And suck because of danmaku dodging and Touhoufag being impossible to get a trolling reaction from. If anything, one of his more powerful abilities is to redirect the efforts of trolling, getting others to bite instead of doing it himself.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:23 No.6647148
    Homebrewers are small in number and, in general, importance. This doesn't make them weak, however.

    Homebrewers are extraordinarily psychic and become bonded to a particular area of land, within which they write the rules. These Brew-Homes are generally not bigger than a couple of square-miles for each home brewer, but within it, the Homebrewer is effectively a God. Magic, ultra-technology, harems of delicious elf-girls, all are possible within a Home-brewer's personal kingdom. Equally, the rules of reality can be bent and sometimes broken, such as gravity being reversed, decreased or eliminated all together.

    Homebrewers are both feared and looked down upon by most of the other ascended fa/tg/uys. They are feared for the undeniable power they wield, but looked down upon because very rarely do they attempt to expand their power beyond the realms of their own personal god-hoods. It is said that each Home-brewer has a notebook which is the key to their power, and if this were to be stolen, their power would transfer to the new owner. No-one has ever succeeded however.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:24 No.6647155

    sage for homebrew

    ...sorry, just had to say that
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:25 No.6647158
    So it's the legion of slavish white knights that pose the problem.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:27 No.6647171
    Pretty accurate.

    He's not the leader of the Touhoufags, but he keeps alliances with them and the 3e, 4e and WoD crowds. He also has legions of white knights who seem to rush in and white knight when the trolls come knocking.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:27 No.6647173

    I'm seeing it more kind of like WoD, in that everyone was once human, now they might be more or less human.

    Like, Dorf-Fortress-fags would become more Dorf-like, but still be almost-human. They might gain powers to bend and shape stone, as well as having great crafting abilities. They'd obviously be able to specialise together in different methods of fighting obviously.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:33 No.6647214
    Magic-fags were unusual. Shortly after the Event, they disappeared entirely, and it was assumed that they had somehow been destroyed. Several weeks later, they began appearing again, apparently having been travelling between planes, building collections of blue-prints of creatures and spells from other worlds. These weak planeswalkers claimed certain areas of the world that had mostly been unclaimed, and set about changing them to provide them the power needed to cast their new spells.

    Like so many others, Magic-fags, should they be united would have such great powers as to pose a serious threat to the rest of the world. As it is, however, they spend much of their time battling with each other in small proxy wars, as well as spending time "travelling between planes" learning of new and exciting things to summon.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:34 No.6647222
    So, you want to go for a template approach? That'd be nice and simple.

    Excuse me, WoD/troll here. I respect Tohoufags knowledge of the games, but I do NOT approve of Tohou in general. I'm sure there are more like me.

    That sounds bad ass.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:37 No.6647255
    I dunno, the homebrewers on /tg/ are primarily collaborative. Like, my ideas tend to be very infrequent, but I kick ass at elaborating on other people's ideas.

    How about add:
    When multiple Homebrewers share a Brew-home, it expands in size, and the more homebrewers share, the greater their combined power grows. While the brew-home of a single homebrewer warps only slightly and over long periods of time, the Brew-homes of groups can be truly alien landscapes, with mountains jutting up over the course of a mere weekend.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:39 No.6647272

    That works better. Seconded.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:43 No.6647292
    >Like, Dorf-Fortress-fags would become more Dorf-like, but still be almost-human. They might gain powers to bend and shape stone, as well as having great crafting abilities. They'd obviously be able to specialise together in different methods of fighting obviously.
    It also only requires one Dorf to move a single object, regardless of size and composition. An iron bed is no more a challenge than a balsa wood chair.
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    >I do NOT approve of Tohou in general. I'm sure there are more like me.

    I do not approve of those who send forth purely Touhou-related, /tg/-unrelated posts on this board. Ask me to clarify something with regards to the series and I shall oblige and provide answers, but those who, say, create Touhou threads on this board or who come into a thread screaming something inane along the lines of "CHEEEEN" are unwelcome to my mind. Those people of which I speak can saunter off to /jp/.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)11:56 No.6647424
    The Quest, depending on who you hear it from, is either a psychically implanted curse, mental sickness, a divine stroke of genius or a vain attempt to become important.

    Every now and then, someone from one of the factions will begin to tell a story, demanding input from those around him. The power of The Quest is such that people will often be compelled to reply, no matter their opinion of the story. This will continue either until the story's end, or until the Quest-teller is stopped. Sometimes this happens because the Quest-teller forgets to eat, so caught up is he in his story, sometimes he is expelled by those unaffected by the Quest's power. These exiled Quest-tellers have begun to make a new home for themselves away from those who might question them, and people who were touched by Quests in the past have begun to trickle there to take part in them once again.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)12:03 No.6647491
    Is that you Touhou? God, you are very cool-headed about it.

    That is creepy and awesome.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)12:07 No.6647519
    So, if this were to actually happen, I would imagine that there would also be regular humans in the mix, friends and family of the people who fell into the coma, and concerned people worried about the safety of the world. Would they hunt the altered /tg/ goers, or try to redeem them?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)12:09 No.6647533
    >Implying /tg/ has friends or families.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)12:12 No.6647549
    Hey, bro. I was pondering making Frekazoid in WoD. What template would work best for him?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)12:14 No.6647566

    I'm not sure which way to take this. When I first suggested it, I had visions of a secret underworld of fa/tg/uys, fighting for supremacy, while the rest of humanity carried on regardless.

    However, when you've got Magic-fags throwing around fireballs and summoning massive giants, and 40kfags stomping about in power armour, it's kinda hard to keep that a secret. So maybe the rest of humanity would retreat to one part of the world leaving the superpowered fa/tg/uys to war over the rest. Guns would still hurt us, I'd imagine, so they'd mostly be left alone. Some of the sneakier factions, like the Lovecraftians, would still try and infiltrate the ordinary humans, if only to try and look for the secret way to resurrect HPL.

    Alternatively, it's all just in the fa/tg/uys' heads. And somehow they don't question how Terminators can fight Mi-Go and not have anyone wonder what the hell is going on.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)12:17 No.6647596
    >Alternatively, it's all just in the fa/tg/uys' heads. And somehow they don't question how Terminators can fight Mi-Go and not have anyone wonder what the hell is going on.

    I like that. Also, what if all fa/tg/uys were just rounded up and put in Hawaii with a giant dome put over it? It's outlandish, but sounds cool.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)12:22 No.6647644
    Only one person would have been able to make that happen.

    The Troll Lord.

    You see, when the change first took hold, the Troll Lord was gifted with immense power for some reason. And in one of his ultimate trolling moves, he moved all the ascended to Hawaii and trapped them there. He then, started to slumber. People say that when he wakes, he will be as powerful as he once was. However, he has since woken up twice to his followers dark rituals only to say, "LOL I TROLL U" and return to rest.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)13:01 No.6648018
    I'm thinking we could fit this all within the same WoD template. Our morality is trollface. We all get nerdrage as an ability. And most other things are dependent on class. I'm thinking in terms of appearance, we can be akin to changelings. We look different to each other, but "normal" to others. What we see as a Space Marine standing tall and proud with a chainsword, others see as a cosplayer.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)13:03 No.6648033
    I could roll with that, but not too many people on /tg/ are crazy about the Storyteller System.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)13:05 No.6648054
    "trolling: Upon inciting nerdrage in another, you get 9-again on all rolls until the end of the scene."Of course, it's a breaking point.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)13:09 No.6648111
    "nerdrage: Upon hearing an opinion which you believe to be fundamentally wrong, roll Wits+Composure. Upon failing to do so, you must endeavor to change the mind of the person who made this statement. All social rolls, however, are at a -2 penalty."
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)13:12 No.6648145
    Is this archived yet?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)13:27 No.6648278
    You can check as easy as any of us. But yes.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)13:34 No.6648344
    But I am lazy...In fact, I'm going to turn in now. Night guys.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)16:59 No.6650346

    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)18:07 No.6650955

    The way I see it, WoD-style is the best I can think of for the way I see this setting going.

    However, I think it's a bit silly in a setting that parodies /tg/'s factionalism and the tendency towards WRONGBADFUN to make a big deal about the crunch. This could work with WoD, or M&M or BRP or whatever system you want really.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)18:08 No.6650970

    Yup, vote that shit up.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)18:27 No.6651183
    We have to pick a setting to be able to write stats for it, you arse.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)18:30 No.6651211
    I don't understand what /tg/'s obsession is with statting out and giving crunch to their original content. People are obviously more excited about and willing to do fluff, so just keep it at that to inspire GMs to do whatever they like with the setting.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)18:32 No.6651239
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    I've always wanted to play in a Senshi: The Merchandising campaign.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)18:41 No.6651331
    You can't actually use it without crunch.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)18:43 No.6651342
    So it's impossible to make a couple adaptations to whatever system your group uses or likes?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)18:43 No.6651343
    that should be left to the person using the setting, otherwise we're going to spend forever debating which system to use
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)18:44 No.6651351

    If you're going to be running a game, I don't think it's a massive step up in effort to have to write down some stats as well as deciding roughly what's going to happen.

    Besides, we're not saying you shouldn't write stats down or indeed share them out. We're just saying it shouldn't be a central concern, and if this gets an article on 1d4chan, we shouldn't say

    >Here is the system you must use if you're running this game
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)18:55 No.6651452
    Fuck yes! Magi-Nation
    >> Anonymous 11/10/09(Tue)18:59 No.6651501
    You don't think that basically writing a whole WoD book is a massive step up in effort? Seriously?

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