Unzip.

Relieve yourself. It's been a long time since thread 1.

>>7027390

Current Status

HANGAR
MS-07A GOUF (EARLY TYPE) Piloted by Lt JG Lister
MS-06D DESERT ZAKU piloted by CPO Ringo
MS-06K ZAKU CANNON piloted by Pvt Brande
MS-06J ZAKU II no pilot

TIME BEFORE HILDOLFR ARRIVES: 3 DAYS
HOURS REQUIRED TO FINALISE TESTS: 25 HOURS

You are currently marching back to base. You're ETA is 6:30. What do you wish to do when you arrive?

I close and hide yet another thread that belongs on /m/ first, then /a/, then /b/, then maybe /tg/, if there was something other than circlejerking going on.

>>7027404

Actually there are disposal facilities right in your Zaku. And I'm not like SOME DM's who demand that if you don't SAY that your eating or releiving yourselves your characters aren't.
Because that's just stupid behaviour.

Your Journey back to base is largely uneventful, when you arrive you relay the intelligence you were able gain from the Tank Barracks. On the strength of your intel, they worry about the fate of their missing Zaku squad that they sent to find the captured train.

It is 7:00pm at night.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>7027450
>BAD FUN IS BAD

>>7027765

Should we try and get some shut eye? We've been about for awhile...

>>7027444
>>7027444
look into finding another pilot, look for specific skills such as being able to both kick ass, and take names

>>7027788
If you're going to refute a troll, please don't do so with a trip, and using bad logic. He is saying that here is not the place. You are derping that because you're having fun, this is justified.

> Dave Lister

>>7027806
WHOA... so now someone saying your thread doesn't belong is trolling?

>>7027765
>>7027765

We should also see about the missing group of MS pilots.

>>7027829
>Dave Lister
>D Lister

>>7027806

As a rule I think it's be best just to ignore trolls, or report them if they're really obvious.

>look into finding another pilot, look for specific skills such as being able to both kick ass, and take names

This would take a couple of hours to find any old pilot. To find one with decent specifications within the base will take longer (assuming such a pilot exists here.)

>Should we try and get some shut eye? We've been about for awhile...

You can probably fit in a few more hours and be up by seven the next morning.

>>7027829
I asked of /tg/ a name for our character, they replided David Lister. I went with it, on the grounds that this is a hilariously normal name for a Gundam Protagonist.

>>7027865
since this is a quasi-roleplay, it has more right to be here than even 40k, since poeple have ben using there imaginations for probably hundreds of years

>>7027895

I'd also wonder ti ask what Zeon is doing about the general lawlessness thats happened with displaced Feddies turning to banditry... that should be delt with.

Maybe we should write up a proposal and request it be sent up? If we're taking over, we should think long term ya?

>>7027930
>>7027930
let's also not for get to use the rape and murder of innocent women as propaganda. we want civilians to think of us as enlightened saviors from the stars!

>>7027930

You bring up what happened with the local Depot commander. He just shrugs.

"We just don't have the manpower to police an entire state. Hell we barely have the manpower to estabilish law and order in an area a third of what we've taken. After the Colony Dropped, power supplies got cut all over the country, about 70% of the population were killed, and there was a damn near collapse of government control. It's basically Mad Max out there. I'd imagine the stories the same all over america, if not the world."

>>7028009
>>7028009
alright lets ask him if theres any spare pilots, even raw a raw one, need the extra suit up and walking.

>>7028009

Well, we're under command of a group of people...

In our free time, lets see if theres anyone with a police background and bring it up with them. Maybe we can sort of write up a training program of reservists police that can help with cleanup operations?

At the very least we can get in the eyes of the higher ups? :D

>>7028094

Oh yes, and spare parts :3

>>7028094

You ask if he's got any spare pilots, since you've got a Zaku spare, and he says that he's pretty sure they've got a couple lying about. He says he'll find some 'decent candidates and forward their dossiers to you.

>>7028146

Spare parts for the Zaku isn't a problem, parts for the Gouf may get problematic if you keep getting it wrecked, but even those can be machined from Zaku parts.

>>7028098
You can do this, but such a project would require lots of research and time to do properly. Certainly it would make a good project to work on during your off-duty hours later on.

>>7028243

Oh yeah, definitely work on that in our off hours. Maybe ask Zol and Jol if they;d like to help.

>>7028243
>>7028243
just to clarify

2 days left now till hildolfr?

also, is there anything else to investigate? or shall we get right down to business and finalise this test


>>On the strength of your intel, they worry about the fate of their missing Zaku squad that they sent to find the captured train


did i miss something? sorry trying to catch up on the archived threads :P on part10

The Tin mine and the stolen train with HEAVY FORTIFICATIONS remains.
Also that Zaku squad that went after it.
Maybe we should head out ASAP tomorrow morning after we get some rest and have chosen pilot nr 4?

>>7028354
oh ok , the tin mine, yeah i beleive we should go after the tin mine. what's the worst that can happen?....

>>7028368
>>7028368
for got mah tripfaggottry

>>7028318

There is one location left to visit. That being the disused tin mine. Intel you captured from the Tank Barracks indicate that this may be the where the federal forces have been massing. It also indicates that the feds have captured ANOTHER train, including it's heavy fortifications that were intended for the 67th depot.

You also need to put 25 more hours into preparing the test. You could do it in two days if you pushed yourself, but a few hours before bed, or possibly spending the day preparing the test and then attacking the Mines at night?
You'd probably be lacking sleep the next day though.

BRB Dinner.

>>7028402
i say the best option would be to get that exttra pilot, get him backing us up with a megalla top gun, and all head to the mine at night fall, slrp a couple hourse before hand just to freshen up though. hit em hard hit em fast.

>>7028402

Whoa, wait... is that a gouf disguised as a GM?!?!?!

As always, one suit to beat them all.

We should write up some plans to take the mine, probably about getting some more heavy firepower...

>>7028368
You mean besides us encountering a sizable force of Feddie tanks responsible for the deaths of several of our Zeonic brethren and finding out that they've made good use of the defenses that were on that train shipment?

I suppose they could mess up the paint job on our Gouf.

>>7028445
This in addition to finalizing the tests for the experimental artillery unit.

Let's give ourselves enough time to take the fight to the Feddies. The sooner we finish preparations, the sooner we can do that.

Let's bomb the fuck out of that mine with some ultra long range artillery or with airplane bombardments.

We've got good intel, really good intel, that fed forces are filling that place the fuck up.

>>7028694

Bazookas for everyone!

>>7028694
We may want to do a bit of reconnaissance, though.

After all, it;d be a shame to bomb the mines only to find out that the majority of the tank force was out on patrol.

>>7028913
If they've got . . . I don't know, a shitload of tanks sitting around, they won't be having the majority of them running around the desert to be detected by Zeon forces.

They'll be keeping them quiet, hidden, until they're ready to attack.

Helps to know where all the entrances to the mines are.
I'm getting the feeling though that the heavy fortifications + gun emplacements will be OUTSIDE the entrances.

Don't think it will be an easy way out of this one.
1) Recon the enemy forces
2) Put up a fire mission while we close in
3) Pop smoke, move fire barrage back towards any reinforcements streaming out of the entrances.
4) Get in to close combat ASAP to limit the use of their firepower. GOUFY TIME

>>7028694

>Let's bomb the fuck out of that mine with some ultra long range artillery or with airplane bombardments.


Unfortunately, there isn't much in the way of air to ground assets in the area. Artillery guns are possible, but since they'll be using the same weapons as you are, you'd best be careful for counter-battery fire.

Ultimately it looks like you wont be getting the pilot dossiers today, so can I assume that you spend the rest of day doing more work on the test before going to bed?

>>7029019

Yeah, might as well.

>>7029019
Let's look over intel on that mine. Maps. Topography. Look for any entrances. We need to know where they all are.

>>7028973
I agree with this plan of action.

And who knows, we might even be able to take out all of their armor without having to collapse the mine. After which they could either try to escape via the tunnels or just surrender.

Either way we get the chance to rescue any surviving Zeon personnel and/or discover more intelligence.

Anyway we go about it, we'll be needing that Federation radio in order to listen in on their frequencies.

>>7029063

You spend the rest of the day working on the test. You also request more recon data on the mines, and then go to sleep around 11.

TIME NEEDED FOR TEST: 21 HOURS

>>7029019
Damnit man, they managed to airdrop our Zaku within a day, did the airbase they were at get attacked or something?

If we can't just bomb them to hell, recon the entrance and then artillery the fuck out of it.

>>7029151

They airdropped your Zaku in a day from a Fat Uncle transport that had a spare space and was heading in your direction anyway. Even then that was because you were trading on your ace status.
You COULD probably do it again and demand for an aerial dropping mission, but I'd rule you wouldn't be able to trade on your 'Ace status' for a while afterwards.

The next morning comes with a ton of work in your inbox. The Depot head has forwarded three possible candidates four your perusal, as well as some recon photos of the mine. As always there are requests from the Test Team asking for more imput.

(Give me some time to hash out pilot pictures for the three, and I'll start talking about them. In the meantime - what do you want to do today?)

Test team imput. The pilot reviews and recon photos

1. Pick a pilot.
2. Meanwhile, go over those recon pictures for the best avenue of attack / ways to stop them from escaping once we hit them like a ton of bricks.
3. Prep the mobile suits.
4. Use whatever time is left before we head out to work on the Hildofr thing.

What if we were to infiltrate the mine?

There's got to be more and more rag-tag feddie rebels going in, it could be easy to get "overlooked" and inside.

Once in, we could CAUSE HELL TO BREAK LOSE.

>>7029389

You spend the morning doing more work on with the Test Team. Setting out variables and other such minor details that have to be worked out.

TIME NEEDED FOR TEST: 16 HOURS

You stop for lunch and read over the pilot dossiers whilst doing so.

First pilot: GABRIEL ZOLA

A decent pilot who took part in the battle of loum. Gabriel has adapted well to fighting in the earth sphere, and has several kills to his name. He is an adaptive and capable pilot, more comfortable with up close and dirty combat over long range sniping.
He's also managed to survive losing his Zaku twice, once during a patrol, and again recently to an enemy tank ambush. Both of these times Zola was able to account well for himself before being forced to escape. In both cases, his Zaku was either retrieved by friendly forces, or he activated the self destruct.

>>7029255
Okay, that makes sense. Sorry if I sounded bitter.

1. Go over pilot resumes
2. Work on Hildolfr test.
3. Go over new intel on tin mine.

>>7029255
What sort of range is the Hidolfer's main gun supposed to have? If we were able to get into position to reacon the Feddie base we could laser com to an aircraft at high altitude and they in turn could send the data to the Hidolfer.

It would certainly be a good test of it's big gun. Since the base is a certain distance away we could request that the aircraft not scramble until we're scheduled to be nearly at the target. All we'd need to do is wait perhaps another day for the big beast to be delivered.

>>7029515
I don't like the sound of this guy. Lost his Zach TWICE!? He sounds like a coward, running from battles and covering up for himself afterwards.

>>7029515

Cont.

Ruubens Arronax

Often made fun of his looks, Ruubens is still a highly effective pilot with no real weaknesses in a Mobile Suit.
Outside of it, well, he hasn't adapted to the earth all that well. He is still hazed over the one time he ran away screaming from a deer. He also isn't used to actual weather yet.
Ruubens used to be an MS engineer, until he was forced to pilot in combat, he applied for a transfer and was accepted. Prior to this, he also used to pilot a MS-06V Zaku Tank on salvage runs.
He adapts well to complicated plans, however he sometimes lacks forward initiative, his skills otherwise are excellent.

>>7029456
Half-cooked, Over-the-TOP, Zeon-is-badass plan:

We still have the Feddie radio and we never actually revealed we have one. As such, Zol, Jolyne, and ourselves cram into EL Muerte Gigante. We approach the base in the zaku, weapons held above its head or unheld, pretending to have difficulty controlling it. Zol or Jolyne radios in that "We've caught the ace, we caught DAVID LISTER!"

>>7029622
Also, the only thing that says its a man is DAT STACHE

>>7029622

PFFFFTTT BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm sorry but that mustache. XD

>>7029622
At first, I though "Cool, an option for another female pilot. Gender equality and all that. Feels good man."

Then I expanded the picture.

HOLY SHIT WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN

>>7029544
>>7029544
actually, combining the test and the raid on the mine would be pretty damn good, two birds with one stone.

>>7029622
I-is that photoshopped?

Might be a good idea to actually have a recon look on the mines defences before we decide to drop our expensive prototype into it all.
I'm guessing the feddies can detect something of that size entering the atmosphere so they'd probably be alerted.
And why cram 2 of our best pilots into our own suit and pretend to surrender? Just limits our options and firepower.

>>7029696
If this means "test the cannon by shelling the mine until it collapses", then I'm all for it.

>>7029666

Hence:
>Often made fun of his looks

But yeah, I laughed too, and I'm the one who did the shoop.

Plato Schultz

Another pilot who was in Loum. Plato managed to survive the loss of his Zaku 1 and then was able to infiltrate an enemy Battleship and steal it's escape pod. He made it back to friendly lines and fought the rest of the battle in a spare Gattle. He was transferred down recently when his CO finally remembered that he was an MS pilot.
He appears to be adapting well to fighting on earth, but he's only been down about two weeks.
His piloting is considered highly average, and his instructors have noted his reliance on automation such as targeting computers and factory set routines, and rank his ability to move manually very low, barely passing the MS test.

>>7029723
Because it's something different instead of:

"We approach mine, do we see anything?"

"Okay, we shoot them."

We win.

The spice is the spice of life, man.

>>7029750
I love this guys name.

>>7029622
But this guy seems our best bet.

Can we take Ruubens but change his name to Plato? Because god damn, an engineer/pilot named Plato with an awesome 'stache would do well to round out our little team.

>>7029723
> have a recon look on the mines defences before we decide to drop our expensive prototype into it all.

No, I mean shell the feddie base while the prototype is still back near our base.

>>7029771

I think it may be a LITTLE bit outside your authority to change someone's name.

>>7029622

Despite the face ferret, I think Ruubens would make a fne addition to the team.

first things first. We get him a haircut. That shit dont fly in the 321.....


PFFFT BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

The only man who could infiltrate and make that mine actually collapse is Mr. Incognito.

>>7029801
I wonder what he's up to.

>>7029750
This guy sounds interesting. What, exactly, is a Gattle?

Because I'll be honest, the sort of guy who could infiltrate an enemy battleship, steal its escape pod, and then go straight back into the fight has Balls of steel.

We just take some of our fancy footwork and program it into his suit for him, while putting him on Training From Hell to make his piloting better. But when the Feddies have some prototype that we want to steal, we'll want to have this guy around.

>>7029750
I vote Gabriel, with Ruubens as a close second. Getting Ruubens to get a damn haircut to reduce his femininity would boost him to first.

And I don't see what's so bad about freaking out over a deer. Deer are just one step away from being moose.

>>7029831

Interesting fact that deer are one of the most lethal animals on the planet.

>>7029824
>This guy sounds interesting. What, exactly, is a Gattle?

This is.

So, shall we have a vote on which new wingman to take control of EL MUERTO GRANDE?

I'd say, get our teammates input. Personally, I don't feel like we need anyone else right now, maybe they have some insight.

>>7029831
We can't pick Ruubens, though; girly men aren't supposed to take over Gundam until we hit the alternate continuities.

Ruubens Arronax and then Gabriel Zola.

>>7029750
>>7029750
personally i suggest we choose this guy, he's fresh and we can mould him into an ace,

>>7029885
>So, shall we have a vote on which new wingman to take control of EL MUERTO GRANDE?

Huh? I thought we were voting to see who would pilot the Gouf. I like El Muerto Grande. ;_;

Oh well, as I said, voting for Gabriel.

Plato Schultz

>>7029930

Fresh? He's been in the Luna 2 Garrison since Loum! Ruubens Arronax is reasonably fresh though.

I vote Ruubens. Hilarity from his appearance aside, we don't have anyone who actually specializes in engineering yet, and that could be useful. So far all we have to go on are our own self-taught attempts, that's not gonna get us far.

Gabriel seems like a solid second choice, but he sounds a bit too much like Zolomon-lite to me. Plato doesn't sound all that promising. Balls of steel aside, he doesn't seem to have that much actual initiative, and his by-the-books routines will probably get him into trouble considering what our squad usually runs into. I peg him at being shot down once he has to actually face other Mobile Suits, not just tanks and planes.

>>7029885

Plato. We can train someone to not suck at piloting, we can't train them to be Awesome. And infiltrating an enemy battleship followed by STEALING A FUCKING ESCAPE POD and then going right back into the fight? Is Awesome.

>>7029972
>>7029951
>>7029950
>>7029949
>>7029930
>>7029916
>>7029896
>>7029885

I'm saying we get some imput from Zol and Brande.

Preparing for laughter from Zol.

Plato Schultz. We'll need somebody who can pilot airplanes to pull off that bombardement-plan

>>7029544

And the Hildorf can use some support too. A Gattle's probably the better choise than to waste an MS on guarding duty.

>>7030003
The Gattle's a space fighter. No matter who we pick, they're gonna be saddling up in our old Zaku.

despite his poor choice of hair, rubbins, i think.

tho i like plato, mainly becous of his name

Whilst you're deliberating here's the recon data about the Tin Mine.

You have some recon shots from about a month ago (they can send a recon plane up if you want though, this would take an evening, and would be best if done shortly, as the light will fade around 7 or 8) it shows that there are at least three exits from the mines, all large enough to accomodate Mobile Suits.

The background infomation you've found on the mine is... interesting.

Set up by an eccentric Scotsman called Dirk Boatmurdered, the mine was named after him, and supplied tin for several decades. There are references to the mans irrational phobia of elephants, as well as an abject hatred for rhesus macaques. There are also references to something called: The Lava Switch, but you're 90% sure that has to be just a name for the canteen or something.
The plant was shut down in 66, in the aftermath of a massive industrial accident that scalded several hundred workers to death - there are strange mentions on how this is attributed to a Monarch Butterfly and something called a Tantrum Spiral.
Frankly it all sounds rather made up, the plans at least make some sense, even if they do appear to be a bit haphazard.

OBTAINED: MAP OF BOATMURDERED MINE.

>>7030046
WELL, SHIT.

COLONY DROP. IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO BE SURE.

>>7030046
THIS SETTLES IT

WE HAVE TO INFILTRATE IT AND DESTROY IT FROM THE INSIDE

>>7030046

FFFFFFFFFFF

>>7030046

ZEONQUEST! NOW 1000% MORE /TG/.

DROP AN XBOX ON IT! A COLONY MAY NOT BE LARGE ENOUGH!

Plato got potential, I think. He's probably no newtype but he thinks the way we think.
A bit of training and finding his niche and he'll be a regular asskicker.

>>7030046

FUCK A COLONY DROP ON THIS, DROP THE MOON ON IT.

pending that we infiltrate and destroy it from the inside, be prepared to fight the one armed man

>>7030073

pic related

FFFFFFFFFF BOATMURDERED

We're going up against a whole Brigade aren't we.

>>7030064

One does not simply WALK into Boatmurdered.

Also, can you make a decision on which wingman to take?

Just realized something. Let's go meet the pilots individually. Get to know them a bit. There might be something about them that the profiles missed, for better or worse. And even if not, it's still a good idea to meet up with them, make sure everyone gets along well enough.

>>7030063
>>7030064
>>7030072
>>7030073
>>7030095
WHAT'S GOING ON, WHY ARE WE YELLING? WHAT AM I NOT GETTING?

To be known as the butcher of Boatmurdered would be an amazing achievement.

>>7029665
This idea sounds awesome.

Except that we have Plato do it. He's got experience with this sort of thing.

>>7030115

better idea

>>7029750
Plato!

>>7030114
You do when you're David fucking Lister

See >>7029665

>>7030115
Meet the pilots. See who's most likely to fit in our group, personality-wise.

Still think we should at least use Plato for the "infiltrate and steal something nice" plan, though.

>>7030115

Boatamurder is a legendary dorf fortress that...pretty much flooded its surroundings with lava regularily because of the killer elephants. Google the playthrough.

Infiltrating and then "Escaping" from being captured would only enhance our reputation.

Lets meet the pilots throughout the day, Say over breakfast or something?

>>7030166
Get Jolyne and Zol some civvie clothes. We need to make the Feddies think that both of them are just civilian insurgents who got incredibly lucky in order for this to work.

>>7030162
Okay. Phew, I was worried we were walking into a Dean Koontz novel or something.

You decide to interview the pilots one by one.

INTERVIEW WITH GABRIEL ZOLA

He enters and salutes smartly. You get the feeling that this someone who values authority.

QUESTIONS?

>>7030226
"Is that stick natural, or did it have to be inserted manually?"

How he responds will say a lot about him.

>>7030226

ask him about close combat.
Ask him about how much he values his mobile suit.

>>7030046
i dont get it.

>>7030287

This. :3

>>7030226
Can you tell us about the times you lost your Zaku?

>>7030226

"how many uses does a heat hawk have?"

>"Is that stick natural, or did it have to be inserted manually?"

He frowns. Not seeming to get what you're implying.

"Sir?"

"Nevermind. How are you in a close firefight?"

"I would say I have decent skills in that area, and I have often been forced the combat the federation oppressor at close range when they have cowardly decided to fight inside an urban environment."

"O..Kaay.... Now, it says that you've ejected from your mobile suit twice. Can you explain more about this?"

"Sir! In both situations my Zaku was unable to continue fighting sir! I was setting the self-destruct the first time when the tide turned and my suit was able to be repaired and salvaged. The second time I was unable to do this, so I destroyed the Zaku in order to prevent if from falling into enemy hands sir!"

>>7030305
It has been explained already. And you could always ask Google.

>>7030347
>and I have often been forced the combat the federation oppressor

I have a felling that this might not be our bag baby as you brits say.

>>7030355
>>7030355
already read, thanks, not refreshing enougth. too many damn distractions

>>7030347
Hmm, seems a bit regimented. Still, nice enough guy.

What battles have you been in, besides Ioum?

If he values authority that much, he won't fit in with us too well.

Yeah, I'd say this guy is out of the running.

So now it's between Ruubens and Plato.

>>7030347
>>7030347
we could always break him. turn into one crazy sumbitch who dont take no shit. eats tanks and craps colony drops.
....wait no. thats not a good idea

>>7030347
"Congratulations! You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training! Now we have just one test left: an eye exam."

More bluntly: fuck no. Next!

>>7030381
>What battles have you been in, besides Ioum?

I performed a combat drop during the initial landings in central USA, where I fought with several Federation Air Squadrons and Sillenced enemy AA to protect the landing HLV's.
I then helped assault the California bases and I was able to circumvent and capture the Moente Gunline for glory of Zeon! I was stationed to Arizona a month ago, and have fought several cowardly federation guerrilas since then, sir."

>>7030201
That's the idea. They'd need a basic, "We fled to the desert backstory" and throw in a miracle story about catching Dave off-guard outside of his suit. Dave, for our part, must be stoic but visibly irked at the world.

>>7030482
We don't want this guy.

NEXT!

>>7030482
>>7030482
well if we ever needed a guy to go out ina suicidal blaze of glory, it would definately be him.

>>7030517

Only take this guy if we can just strap him to the outside of our old Zaku's cockpit and use him as ablative meat for somebody we like more.

>>7030533
I just got this mental picture of him tied to the front of our Gouf, yelling expletives and propaganda at the feddies. It is glorious.

Can we just flip a coin or something for these last two and get a move on?

INTERVIEW WITH RUUBENS ARRONAX

Ruebens enters and salutes, he seems somewhat intimidated by you.

Zol struggles not to snigger. You do better and manage to keep a completely straight face. However you as you go to ask your first question, what actually comes out is:

"look, is there some sort of religious principle that would prevent you from shaving that mustache?"

Zolomon has to quickly leave the room to prevent Ruubens from hearing him burst out laughing.

Ruubens seems horrified at the suggestion.

"But I *like* my mustache!"

"No. Just no. It's. it's... wait is that?"

"No! Get away!"

Before he is able to retreat you are able to able to rip off what transpires to be a false mustache.

"What the hell! You're a girl? Why on earth would need to pretend you're a man?"

"IT'S COMPLICATED!" she protests.

"But, I'm pretty sure we have an open recruitment policy on gender! Let me check, Jolyne? Do we have an open policy on gender in the Zeonic Military?"

"I wouldn't know sir, you see ironically, I happen to secretly be a man."

"Well, we've always suspected.

"Fuck you sir." Jolyne salutes you with one finger.

QUESTIONS?

>>7030596
I FUCKING KNEW IT ALL ALONG! FUCK YES, APOLOGIZED, YOU ARE THE BEST GM EVER!

*ehem*

I say we choose her.

>>7030596

tell us a little about yourself, your lowest moment, your highest moment?
also


Are YOU a bad enough Chick to fight the feddies alongside us?

>>7030596
haha oh wow

ok question time
How do you feel about close combat and how important is your mobile suit.

also battle history

>>7030596
Her. Now let's get something done. 4 and a half hours and nothing's really gotten done yet.

>>7030596
Have Zol come back in, use his CQC skills to do a quick "package check" on both Ruubens and Jolyne, and then GTFO before they kill him.

Then agree to take Ruubens in as our resident Wrench Wench. When Jolyne gets the Hildolfr, Ruubens takes our old suit and Plato takes Jolyne's (fire support doesn't require quite as much fancy footwork).

Also, >>7030555 has the right plan for how to incorporate Gabriel into the unit.

You have been shrunk down to the size of zeonic nickle and tossed into a blender.

How do you get out?

>>7030648
Backing this, grab the girl and lets get a move on. Don't want to get bogged down, as fun as this is.

>>7030651
>Wrench Wench

Troper!

>>7030669
Say we take both her and Plato for simplicity's sake.

We need a mechanic, and we need someone who can do sneaky stuff.

>>7030596
>that whole post
I like you.

>>7030596
>>7030596
take this chick for the spare zaku, shes got BALLS OF STEEL

Wait... is Jolyne a man?

>>7030596

Goddamn, I don't think Platon will be able to beat that, awesome name or not.

>>7030696
Why yes I am.

To be precise, I'm a Dom Troper. Get two more of me and we can pull off the might Jet Stream Edit.

>tell us a little about yourself, your lowest moment, your highest moment?
also

"My lowest WAS running away from that Deer. It was big! And scary! And had horns! I'd never actually seen an animal larger than a cat before that okay. This is now running pretty close though."

"Highest? Um, I don't know, there was that time I took out a tank squadron in my Zaku Tank. But that was luck mostly, I just ran over one and then tossed it into another one, and then sort of repeated it. If they hadn't all been split up I probably would have died. That was when I decided I wanted to be an MS combat pilot.

>How do you feel about close combat and how important is your mobile suit.

"Um, well, I guess I'm pretty good with close combat... I once had to beat a tank to death with a truck, does that count?"

>also battle history

She thinks on. "Well, there was that time with Zaku Tank, then there was that time I got lucky and took out that company of Type-61's. They just sort of kept coming at me from the same angles, so I just avoided their fire and took them out. Of course I had to lead some of my shots because they were moving pretty fast and the targeting computer doesn't like that, so I had to turn it off."

"I *know*, what's up with that?" You agree.

Behind you, Jolyne mutters something about being surrounded by idot savants.

>Are YOU a bad enough Chick to fight the feddies alongside us?

"SIR YES SIR!... uh, too much?"

"A little."

ANY MORE QUESTIONS?

>>7030741
"You see, I am secretly the Real Plato time travelling to this future. I am also a cockerspaniel that can do some mean tricks"

>>7030596
This one!

And keep the fake 'stache for future amusement.

>>7030772
When the tank comes, assuming it works properly, we do the following:

Jolyne to supertank.
Ruubens to Jolyne's Zaku Cannon
Plato to our old Zaku

>>7030772
LETS TAKE HER ALREADY AND GO KILL SOME FEDS!

time to interview the next guy,

right now though I'm voting on the second chick

>>7030772
>>7030772
i think im inlove with this crossdressing chick

>>7030782

Platon is a self-absorbed bitch though. Socartes was the hardcore stoic dude. He marched a few hundred kilometers through the snow barefoot in hoplite armour and undies before he could finally settle down and be a philosopher.

>>7030746
I don't understand what you just said, but it sounds awesome.

>>7030772
None from me.

>>7030740

No. That was Jolyne being sarcastic again.

>>7030786

OBTAINED: FAKE MUSTACHE.

>>7030829

Can I be honest with you? The next guy is nowhere near as awesome.
He is however a licensed aierplane pilot, and he will be doing the Recon job over Boatmurdered if you decide to order it.

Incidentially, we are coming up to about as late as you can order it and still get good recon data back before the light fails.

Shall we just take "Ruubens" then?

I say we do what everyone else has been suggesting.

Jolyne to super tank.

Ruubens in Jolyne's old Zaku.

Plato in our own Zaku.

>>7030885

yes mister apologized

>>7030885
>>7030885
i'd give her a ruubens if you know what i mean

>>7030885
Yes to Ruubens, yes to recon, but only if the recon looks like a routine sweep to the Feddies. We know where they are, we don't want them to know that we know.

>>7030885
Yes, take Ruubens.

But for the love of god, same thing applies to her as to Jolyne, ie: separate room, no abusing authority.

>>7030885
>Shall we just take "Ruubens" then?
YES.

And order that recon flight.

>>7030905

Yes. This. :3

With luck we can write up a combined MS combat doctrine along with our Reservist Police group idea would get the idea of the higher ups. :3

>>7030885
TAKE HER!

ORDER RECON!

PREPARE TO UNLEASH HELL!

>>7030905
The super tank already has a pilot. We're just designing a test for it. I may have missed something, but I've read nothing from OP saying that we will be getting it.

>>7030905

we can take only one.

ok now to head to boatmurdered. and I never thought that I would say that

>>7030956

Has a sort of griminess about the mouth doesn't it?

There's already a pilot for the super tank, would probably take Jolyne too long time to get accustomed to the thing for the test as well.

If Ruubens still wants to pretend she's a man to other people, and if Jolyne would be amused enough by it, have Jolyne pretend to be Ruubens' girlfriend to establish man credentials.

>>7030979
That's just the airborne particles of fat from all of the raging doom elephants that got hit by the lava.

Take Ruubens, she is AWESOME.

Also hit on her every chance we get for hilarity when people still think she's a guy.

>>7031026
THIS

This can only go well.

>>7030922

Well obviously. Jolyne would murder you in your sleep if your tried it.

NEW UNIT MEMBER: PvT Elaine "Ruubens" Arronax.

Your order the Recon plane to do a recon run, as a high and safe as possible. You already have some basic idea of the layout.

Radio contact is crackly, it largely gives out the further Plato goes in his tiny prop plane. Around about 4pm, when he should be over the Mine you get a garbled report.

"...heavily fortified [static] no sign of [static] the mine proper... [sound of dull explosions]... heavy [static] ...ple A, repeat [static] Ack Ac[signal lost]"

After that you receive no further signals from the scout plane.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>7031119
Well, Plato's dead.

Report the existence of this Fed base to Zeon HQ. Prepare a heavy strike. Heavy weapons. See if we can wrangle some support units as well. Zaku tanks carrying ammo?

We can't leave a heavily fortified Fed base standing so close to the 67th.

>>7031159
This is the perfect exercise for the Hidolfr, however.

I just realised why it's such a good thing we didn't take Gabriel.

He's self destructed a unit and almost self destructed another one. Severe danger of losing El Muerto Grande if he's pilotting it.

>>7031086
>>7031086
>>7031086
>>7031086
this, a thousand times this

>>7031159
...or we could just wait until they sortie everything they've got to fuck up our weapons test, then we sneak somebody in and capture their all-but-undefended base while they're away.

If we've got some regular tanks we can mock up to look like the Hildolfr, we can even do that before the real thing gets here.

>>7031119
See if you can get HQ to lend you one of those newfangled Zogozuazz.

>>7031026
>>7031101

Also use this as a way of explaining why they're bunking together if there aren't enough rooms for all of us. And avoiding questions about why the three guys aren't rooming together to save on space.

>>7031119

now we don't have to worry about gundam

>Well, Plato's dead.

either that..or he's INSIDE BOATAMURDER!

>>7031244

hes most likely in there... time to go rescue him.

>>7031275

ohh god dammit i just realized this

>>7031201
Except the Hildolfr is like 10x the size of any MBT. Kinda hard to create a mock-up of that.

>>7031268
Infiltrate!

We haven't had a proper foot mission since central america!

>>7031196

>>7031086 here
Basically I'm going to be adding "Flirt with Ruubens Arronax" onto every suggestion I post from now on.

Wait... Arronax...
Scared by a deer...

Oh shit if she's related in any way to Tobia we have potential for her to pull of ridiculous shit on the same level as Zolomon. pic very much related.

>>7031296
You take three MBTs and use some of the fake bits to attach them to each other.

Either we sortie all our 4 mobile suits for a recon / attack mission or we wait for the Hildolfr and use that as backup.
We don't know if Plato survived or not, but flak against a prop plane doesn't give him any high chance of getting out alive.

>Report the existence of this Fed base to Zeon HQ. Prepare a heavy strike. Heavy weapons. See if we can wrangle some support units as well. Zaku tanks carrying ammo?

>We can't leave a heavily fortified Fed base standing so close to the 67th.

You get in contact with California HQ and inform them of the situation. Unfortunately they can't give you support at this time, as all units are currently supporting our troops in Canada as Federal forces in Greenland attempt an aerial assault there.

They suggest attacking the base by night, they can also hasten the drop of the Hildolfr if you want it. But without putting it through a proper shakedown test, it will not work to 100% effectiveness.

The 67th currently has one extra squad of Zaku's and enough spare parts to make a couple of Zaku 1. They are doing so now.

Also, high command finally get's round to mailing you the full manifest of the hijacked train.

MANIFEST.
Concrete and mixer
8 180mm Heavy Guns
20 100mm AT Guns
Many HMG's
Sandbags
Zaku parts and weapons
Fuel
Helium-8 Isotopes for fueling Minovsky Pattern Fusion Reactors.
15 Magella Tanks

YOUR ORDERS?

>>7031360
How many Zakus could be kitbashed together from those spare parts?

And I'm seconding the "infiltrate on foot then gut from the inside" idea. Just for fun, really.

>>7031360
>Concrete and mixer

build a huge wall, hide zakus behind it.

???

profit

>8 180mm Heavy Guns
20 100mm AT Guns
>15 Magella attack tanks
>More fucking Zaku parts

We got:
4 Mobile suits in our squad.
+3 Zaku II
+2-3 Zaku 1

For some reason I get the feeling that we on foot versus hundreds of Feddies is the best of ideas. Damn. We need a bigger gun.

Too much good stuff on this train to just bomb the place and blow it all up. Obviously that's preferable to letting the feddies have it so blowing it up should always be a backup agenda, but we need to go raid the place and try to reclaim as much as possible.

Having the Hidolfr nearby if we need to shell the crap out of it would be a good idea in my book.

>>7031360

Night attack.

We go in heavy, we go in hard. A preliminary bombardment would be ideal... but um... yeah... its not looking good on that part.

Heavy armaments for all?

>>7031381
>How many Zakus could be kitbashed together from those spare parts?

You have Ruubens look over the manifest. She confirms that you could probably make AT least three Zaku's out the parts. You'd have to know what your were doing though. Zaku's aren't some model kit you know.

>>7031360
Definitely try to sneak in first, this place will now be hell to take otherwise.

If sneaking in and blowing it up from that side isn't an option, then we go find ourselves some natural gas and start flooding the mine with methane. It's odorless and colorless, so they won't notice. Until they suffocate, or until a spark blows up the mountain.

>>7031360

supply fucked up once again.

we roll out as soon as we can, they might be making a new mobile suit there. although we could lure them to a trap, broadcast over the area that a test is happening with a new type of tank to the general populace, be sure to include concordats. the station new ms a safe distance away, wait for feddies then fire.

Why is everyone so keen with bashing our heads against defenses? We could be sneaky, at least.

>>7031360
>>7031360
hasten that hildolfr, no test is worth shit unless its a live test.

plus, zaku spam from 67th

>>7031438
Tell her that we're pretty sure they know what they're doing, given that we've been running into Feddie Zakus made from captured parts all over the damn place between Cali and here. Phrase it nicely, though; we want to get her thinking about it, not crush her self-esteem.

Ask her if Zakus made completely from spares would have any weaknesses that factory-built Zakus lack.

So, between going in with our suits in a direct assault and trying to sneak in on foot, what is everyone's preference?

>Helium-8 Isotopes for fueling Minovsky Pattern Fusion Reactors.

That reminds me...can we pump the place full of minovsky-particles? That should disable the laser tripwires you'd usually meet in a scifi scenario.

>>7031360

We use the Hidolfr. Assming they've set up everything from that train, we're going to need everything we can throw at them. Probaably assign the Zaku I as a bodyguard for the Hidolfr, if it gets finished in time.

Tactics-wise, probably do some basic recon, and then use our squad and the other Zaku squad to flank the base from the sides; then bringing up the Hidolfr, the Zaku I and whatever Magellas or whatever we've got left as a linebreaker while the main forces are busy countering at the flanks.

We need to focus on killing those Heavy Guns first, though, with ATs and Magella tanks as secondary targets. Advancing by fire, making best use of cover and support fire from our artillery chicks, and keeping active scans going for ambushes/mines.

Also give the whole base the rundown on those Anti-Magella tactics we thought of, as well as notes on the Feddie's anti-MS tactics we found, too. Also anything we can do to boost morale prior to the attack wold be good, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCV1xZ_NdgI

Letd bring in that Hildorf. keep it towards the rear with Jol

>>7031489
We don't actually have any infantry or commando training do we? Some, limited experience versus a full base of feddies doesn't seem well advised.

Drawing the base defenders outside the range of those static emplacements might be a good idea though.

>>7031310

It's no coincidence. I've been namedropping here and there for while.
You met the dead grandmother of the hero from F91 yesterday, and I'm pretty sure you served alongside the Uncle (or cousin) of the BBEG from Crossbones whilst you were in Mastodon.

>>7031451

So, a lot of people are suggesting some sort of subterfuge to get into the base. I would remind you that none of you are solid snake, and you are Mobile suit pilots by profession, but certainly, you can give it a go. When would you like to travel to the Mine? Tonight or Tommorow?

>>7031472
Read up on the Prince of Wales' first engagement in WWII, against the Bismarck. Taking a weapon that hasn't been properly worked up yet into a combat zone is just asking for something important to fail horribly.

>>7031360
See, all that heavy AT stuff just makes me want to shell it with artillery all the more.

Shit, I don't know. It sounds like they got the fortifications set up already, so a frontal attack sounds fairly suicidal. A night attack preceded by bombardment from Jolyne sounds like our best bet, trying to catch them off guard. And if we can recover some of the stuff then so much the better for us.

>>7031482

Also this. Could be useful. Add it to the breifing if it is.

>>7031501
>>7031501
>>7031501

this plan, although we cant forget the mie has 3 possible exists, one mobile suit sized. i beleive a simulateneous attack would be wise.

hildolfr pound the MS sized entrance, it seems likely this will be the most fortified

>>7031578

Hm, true. We need decent recon data before we can make a better plan. Maybe taking a gander on foot is a good idea.

Use the kitbash Zakus and with the less than stellar pilots to protect the Hildolfr.
Don't want to lose the thing.

We don't know if the enemy have actually set up *all* of those fortifications and static guns, how long since they captured the train?

>>7031578
All three entrances are MS sized.

>>7031600
>>7031600
i think its been a fare few days, they're probably hauled up tight like a wood tick on a dog's ass

>>7031536

tonight, Zoloman and David sneak in while Joylne and Aronax defend our mobile suits from the outside, after all our rival is most likely here if anywhere.

>>7031536
We may not be Solid Snake, but we are the protagonist of something set in a Gundam universe. I think we can somehow manage, even if it seems stupid.

Failing that, let's find the air vents to the mine and start dumping gasoline fumes and methane down them. They both are heavier than air, so they sink. And either everyone in the base dies or somebody lights a match and the mountain explodes; either way, we win.

Although we could also try to jack that train back.

>>7031610

Which is the nature of the predicament. We could get flanked ridiclously easily if we do this badly.

Can we get a map to look at, Apologized? Over 9000 hours in MSPaint is fine.

>>7031578

Don't forget that the mine is at least four to five hours away by Zaku.

>>7031639
Where would we get, and how would we carry all that gas? Without being detected. On foot.

>>7031616

We are not trying to sneak in are we? Thats bad news. We should just assault the place with our MS with Hildorf Fire support/

Its a moving tank platform so counter battery fire shouldn't be that bad an issue.

LETS GET THIS ATTACK UNDERWAY WITH AS MUCH AS WE CAN!

I'd rather attack these guys when they're not expecting it, than sit around here waiting for them to attack us.

>>7031610

Oompa Loompa doompadee doo
I've got another puzzle for you
Oompa Loompa doompadah dee
If you are wise you'll listen to me

>>7031501
>Also anything we can do to boost morale prior to the attack wold be good, too.

Flirt with Ruubens.

I should point out also, that the Hildolfr, even if you do accelerate it's arrival, won't actually get here until tommorow evening at the earliest.

>>7031693

Probably best. If we hit hard enough and make sure everyone uses proper unit tactics, we shold be okay. We have decent organic artillery support, too.

We need to keep an eye out for mines/ambushes, though. They have a track record of liking those things.

Tactics as per Prior suggestions: >>7031501

>>7031763
Eye out, hell! We have a working Feddie radio that won't be useful for much longer anyway, abuse the fuck out of it for intercepts!

Not sure if it's a good idea to delay just to get a 0.5 version Hildoflr that will need to be escorted and sap our mobile suit forces.

Better to just hit them this night with our mobile suits and use confusion, smoke and explosions to maneuver around enemy strong points. Fuck them up all proper like.

>>7031749
Well then,

Speed up it's arrival. Produce as many zakus as we can, even if they're junk. Find pilots to use them.

Hopefully we'll have some other support vehicles as well? Zaku tanks with ammo?

The tank attacks the mine from cover, protected by zakus.

Other zachs, + us, assault the other entrances, focusing on using bazookas + shotguns + grenades.

>>7031749
>I should point out also, that the Hildolfr, even if you do accelerate it's arrival, won't actually get here until tommorow evening at the earliest.

Go without then, they're probably already dug in as fuck we don't need them getting even more established while we wait for one unit. Jolyne gives us fire support, David, Zol and Ruubens get in closer and take out as many of their forces as we can. Second priority can be to see if we can retrieve any supplies or steal some of their own once the threat has been reduced.

>>7031749

Then we use that time to brief/drill everyone in Anti-Magella tactics and empasize the use of cover, teamwork, etc. We need everone at the best standards they can be, and make sure no-one tries to be a Big Damn Hero.

That's our job.

(Also map?)

The base has enough parts for two Zaku 1's. It can put Zola and one other spare pilot in them and have them guard the base.

In the meantime, the base can allocate a full squad of Zaku IIJ's to you. If you put Ruubens in your old Zaku that makes 7 Zaku's total, they'll also allow you to choose their loadout.

If you move to attack once your sure that the Zaku 1's are ready, you will be able to move out and attack the base at midnight. The base also offers smoke canister shells which are interchangeable between the Megella cannon and Jolyne's 180mm Backpack Cannon.

>>7031816

Also make sure Ruubens is familiar with our Zaku. It's customized up to the balls, and we don't want our mods throwing her off.

>>7031816

Luckily, you already gave the local pilots Anti-Magella training as part of your briefing at the start of the week.

>>7031240
>>7031310
Sauce on both of these?

>>7031841

we attack at midnight, the 3 grunt ms leave in with 120 mm and smoke grenades, our squad has the normal load out, lets do this

>>7031841
Alright, let's get those zakus built, get them to defend the base. SHOOT FIRST ASK QUESTIONS LATER kind of deal, if they aren't familiar with it.

We need to shut that mine down. Same suggestion as before in regards to loadout. Bazookas for their explosive power. Shotguns, since it's a fucking mine. MG wouldn't be so effective. Grenades.

>>7031841

So it's just down to whether we should wait for the Hidolfr, is it? Hmm.


It's damn powerful, that much is certain. And we are attacking a hardened target. It'd say it's worth waiting for.

>>7031729
>>7031310
>Basically I'm going to be adding "Flirt with Ruubens Arronax" onto every suggestion I post from now on.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Shipping

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneTruePairing

I'm guessing the grunt Zaku IIJ might not be all that stellar in close combat, use them as our smoke poppers and medium fire support/suppression while we close in.

>>7031896
>>7031896
how much more dug in can they get? i mean THEYVE HAD OVER A WEEK

also use time waiting to get pilots, specially ruubens, familiarized wih the zakkies

>>7031909
Yeah pretty much.

Map of the mine.

>>7031943
>>7031943
time to draw some ideas....brb

>>7031360
Are there any back routes into Boatmurdered at all?

Because all of that shit is going to make going after the Feddies nightmarish.

I still say we lure them out with the Hildolfr test so that we can kill them in the open, or even better sneak into the facility while they're away and kill them then.

>>7031912

I suppose we can use our Gouf's manuverability to give the base gunners fits, and with accurate support fire from cover we should have a decent chance at bringing down the heavy guns.

We need to blitzkrieg the static defences before they have time to mobilize the tanks and any Zakus the've slapped together - getting caught between the two would be a bad idea.

Perhaps we should start at the far entrance, seal it with crackers, and then move on rinse/repeat for the central entrance and invade through the last entrance? That should prevent them flanking us, and cut off the retreat of any important capturable personell.

>>7031943
Sneak in in "captured" suit as per earlier suggestion.

Even better would be if we can flank it with our own spare parts Zakus, done up with Feddie colors or however they're identifying themselves.

We get into the base and then start blowing it the hell up.

>>7031888
>we attack at midnight, the 3 grunt ms leave in with 120 mm and smoke grenades, our squad has the normal load out, lets do this

Just to be clear, since you have a lot of units, what's your definative loadout for all of the suits coming with you?

Also, don't foget about those heavy guns they've set up outside.

>>7031965

Don't forget that this is an old map. Some of the reports you got indicated that a couple of mine shafts had collapsed.

>>7031990
We could just use some other kind of explosive on a timer.

But then again, we did learn how to time our crackers.

>>7032033
Well, can we dig those out and come in that way?

For those going in close, equip bazookas and shotguns.

For those staying at range, bazookas and maybe 1 or 2 MGs.

>>7032033

Loadout... Bazooka spam, for the other squad. If they've fortified, we'll need the extra explosive power.

Bring plenty of ammo, though. There's going to be a lot of targets.

Zonomon and Lister can handle any close-assault work, I think.

>>7032045

No, the only way into the mines is through those three entrances.

>>7032035

Yeah, but each entrance is probably defended. it's not like we can just saunter up and rig it to blow as we please.

>>7032051

No Magella tops?

if we wait for the hidolfr..

Remember that their static emplacements will be split between the three entrances, perhaps not perfectly evenly. If we concentrate our forces we should be able to overrun one entrance and head inside where we can go all GOUFY on their asses.

Then it's just a matter of taking remaining gun emplacements from behind, capturing them intact FOR ZEON.

>>7032092
>>7032092

stationed artillaery distraction on the main entrance, while the rest split and take the other entrances to rip'n'tear as much as we can

Auto-saging?

>>7032124
>>7032124
god damn, long thread of just planning!

Put Gabriel into one of our shitty spare parts Zakus, have him charge the main entrance and hopefully clear the mines out of the way of our other units. Since he's probably piloting something anyway, we may as well make sure he doesn't fuck up our plan.

>>7032092

I'm ok with this

>>7032092
I think go with basically this but don't wait for the Hidolfr.

I say we wait for Hildorf, that thing is pure murder against Zakus and just about anything else in open terrain. And we should also run the shakedown tests.

Because it's not like the mine is going anywhere and if the feddies attack us during the wait or testing, I am quite confident that the forces we have right now can easily repel those 3 or so Zaku II's, those 15 Mangellans and any Type-51 feddies might have.

However if we wait and the feddies just sit in the mine, they will fortify it further and make the assault even harder, but on the other hand if they attack and we repel them, they will definitely sustain casualties and therefore have less firepower when we attack the mine. But that goes both ways, if we lose suits during the attack.

>>7032092

That plan look good.

>>7032092
>>7032105

Mmmm. It's a good plan, although i'm leery of splitting our forces...

Though the mix looks good. Give Zolomon's accompaniment a Magella cannon, as well as Ruubens. Hidolfir's bodyguards should have Bazookas or MGs for close-in defence. I agree with it having an overstrength accompaniment, since odds are /something/ is going to go wrong.

Works for me, I suppose. We should take either an MG or a shotgun. Probably the MG, since we're more experienced with it.

>>7032163
>>7032141
thats fine, another suggestion would to be to have jolyne pop a metric shit ton of smoke to make it seem like we're masking A HUGE GODDAM FOR COMING IN THE FRONT ENTRANCE. as a sort of feign, wont last long when they dont see anyone advancing, but the gouf should be quick enough to have already started fuckin shit up round back

>>7032124

Yes. I'm currently archiving this thread.

New thread: >>7032180

Oh FFS guys, I'm gone for a few hours and these are the tactics you're coming up with? A 300mm gun like what's on the Hidolfer could use indirect fire from about 50km out. The only real problem would be transmissing info back about shot placement which was what the aircraft at high altitude was for in.
>>7029544