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    18 KB Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:25 No.10106653  
    He bought the Imperium precious time by slowing down the Tyranids, and all he got as a reward is being stripped of his office and given a death sentence?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:27 No.10106697
    Who is this? What did he do?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:29 No.10106751
    Inquisitor Kryptman. He virus bombed a hundred worlds (killing everyone on the planets) whenever the Tyranids started invading a planet.

    Killed a lot of people, but killed slowed the Tyranids.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:29 No.10106760

    >Killed a lot of people

    >Implying imperium cares about that
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:30 No.10106776
    Exterminatus is supposed to be used as a method of LAST resort.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:30 No.10106784
    Tyranid don't care if their food is alive, he just made it easier for them.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:39 No.10106961
    virus bombing destroys all organic matter. (through SCIENCE! somehow)
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:40 No.10106976
    Which I don't understand how that affects the Tyranids. Wouldn't they just suck up all the carbon goop and make new Tyranids with it?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:41 No.10106992
    Virus bombs eat away at all organic matter and turn it into an extremely combustible sludge. This is followed by a Lance strike, which immolates the vast amount of fumes and hence, the Atmosphere.
    >> Iron Lung 05/28/10(Fri)02:42 No.10107010
    That was the slowdown effect.
    The hive fleet was so full it had to pull over and take a nap.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:44 No.10107043
    Hence why the IoM probably classified him as a traitor.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:48 No.10107098
    From Lexicanum:
    >The life-eater virus as used on Isstvan III and Stalinvast is terrifyingly voracious, capable of spreading across the entire surface of a planet in a matter of minutes. The virus can penetrate power armour and rebreathers. The virus quickly rots and breaks down anything of biological origin, reducing it to sludge. Jungles and forests quickly rot into lakes of sludge.

    >The rapid breakdown of organic matter releases tremendous amounts of flammable gas. Eventually the gas ignites into an apocalyptic, planet-wide firestorm, searing the planet's entire surface to bare rock, as well as burning the atmosphere of all oxygen.1,2,3

    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:49 No.10107112
    >> Shalere Al-Sabim 05/28/10(Fri)02:49 No.10107119

    I.. I don't think GW understands what a virus is.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:50 No.10107132
    Physics does not work that way. And why not use it on hive ships?
    >> Iron Lung 05/28/10(Fri)02:51 No.10107153
    Except that that's more propaganda then actual field truth.
    The loyalist SM's on Isstvan 4 didn't get wiped out by the virus' deployment; they dug in and fought for quite a while.
    Life Eater might complete fuck a planet's ecosystem, but it's not total death everytime, no matter how loudly the IoM might scream otherwise.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:52 No.10107170

    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:52 No.10107172

    It is the 41st millenium. I'm sure there could feasibly be weapons of that sort. Perhaps the "Virus" in question is a sort of Nano machine.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:53 No.10107185
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:54 No.10107194
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:55 No.10107204
    Yup, but any old pile of bombs will kill a hive fleet. See: How the ultramarines defeated the hive fleet attacking them.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:56 No.10107218
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:56 No.10107219
    Are you kidding? The only reason they survived is becasue they got advance warning and took shelter underground. Anybody on the surface was still killed.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:56 No.10107223
    I guess it would make more sense to use normal bombs then the stupid expensive virus bombs.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:57 No.10107231
    Ebola does the same thing.
    Some viruses reproduce so fast and violently they destroy the hosts cells, resulting in black goop remaining.
    Virus bombs are simply upscaled.
    I think they did that already. Nids ATE the virus, then used a modified gas version to slaughter boarders.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:57 No.10107239
    Because even by the standards of the Inquisition what he did was considered grossly excessive.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:58 No.10107247
    No, it's totally true. Sure, anybody in a sealed vault will be safe. But if it wasn't for Tarvitz, there'd be almost no need for the traitor marines to make landfall (or do orbital strikes, as Horus planned).

    Remember that everybody was busy kicking the Istvvanians in the teeth when the bombs started landing.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:58 No.10107250
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    Pic related

    In 40kland viruses can do this.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)02:59 No.10107267
    What the Imperium should do is this:

    Hire as many Blood Axes and Free Booters as they possibly can find.

    Get them all to start a fight with a nid hive fleet.

    Draw in more and more Orks.

    When the nids and the Orks have committed a majority of their forces to the planet, warp in, virus bomb the shit out of the planet, and then use the rest of the fleet to wipe out the depleted hive ships.

    Honestly, that's also what they should do about the ongoing Ork vs Nid fight that's going down. Rather than sit there and worry about how bad it'll be once one side wins, just fuck the planet when both sides are stuck on it, and score a pretty powerful victory.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)03:00 No.10107273

    What he did was order them to fight to the last man and then he exterminatused the planets, thus denying the nids even the ability to reclaim all the organic matter lost in battle. This Gradually depleted that Hive/Splinter? Fleet and it was fully destroyed in a later battle involving the Ultramarines.

    Another time he sent the Tyraninds against an extremely powerful Ork empire ruled by the Octavian Overfiend.
    The problem with that is, whoever the winner is, will be fuck-all powerful and united. The Tyrainds under the Hivemind and the Orks under the Overfiend.

    The current, and disturbing, estimates of the Average Nob, thats right, not even the proper Warboss, is roughly 20-25 feet in height.

    This has the potential of creating another 60 foot Ork Warlord. The last time such a beast was encountered, it took the GEOM and a few Primarchs to kill it.

    That's right, an Ork so huge and powerful that the GEOM couldnt handle it by himself.

    The reason this particular Ork was put in such a high alert case was because it held the potential to unite a Segmentum's worth or more of Orks.

    Think about this.

    Yeah.... Kryptmann fucked up.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:00 No.10107281
    >How the ultramarines defeated the hive fleet attacking them
    >implying the smurfs took out the hive fleet, not the Imperial Navy and Eldar forces in the background
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:01 No.10107295
    nuke him from orbit
    >> Alpharius 05/28/10(Fri)03:02 No.10107317
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    Eldar tried this shit in DOW2, they got their asses handed for it.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:02 No.10107320
    Again, pop in, nuke the planet while they're committed, and not paying attention to their airspace.

    Kill a whole bunch of Orks and a whole bunch of nids at the same time.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)03:03 No.10107322
    They afford the resources as it would severely denude several secotrs and leave them defensless for any of them that wander off from the fighting and decide to sack some planets.....
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:03 No.10107326
    And your alternative is? Let Hive Fleet Levikrakhemoth RIP AND TEAR its way through the IoM?

    He did what he should have done. Its up to the IoM to planetkill the fuck out of that planet once it seems the battle is near over.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:03 No.10107328
    Yes. The Ultramarines are the 7 foot tall genetically engineered badasses. They took out the Tyranids.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:03 No.10107333
    Yea, because they did it on a planet full of marines.

    And even then, their ultimate plan succeeded: the splinter fleet was stopped at those planets, rather than moving on to the Eldar Craftworld.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:04 No.10107340
    In that kind of situation, tho, Nids will OWN the airspace, and Shadow in Warp will prevent Imperial foces from getting close or being sneaky about it.
    >> Iron Lung 05/28/10(Fri)03:04 No.10107344
    It was hax.
    The 'ravens had the PC Sign lit. =s
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)03:07 No.10107374
    Smurfs have a Massive Battlefleet of there own and contributed and shitton of it themselves. Not to mention they held agains tthe hive while it attacked their planet.

    Battle of Maccragge. The Guns of Maccragge also significantly contributed to the fleets downfall.


    ...A few nukes? This would mean fuck all... And how do you think the Orks are bringing in reinforcements????

    Armchair General Dumbass.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:07 No.10107379
    Yea, but if they're fully committed to fighting the Orks, it's quite likely that their airspace control won't be as dominate as it normally is, simply because the Orks don't use too much as far as flyers go. Evolving to defeat their opponent, they'll push more and more to use ground forces.

    And yea, no need to be immensely sneaky about it, you've just got to get close and fuck them. It's not like they can change up their biomass use in days, at least not at a drastic enough rate to continue the fight on the ground while still managing to fend off the fleet.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)03:08 No.10107394
    Honestly, he should have let it hit Terra.

    If there was any world in the Galaxy that could have hoped to have absorbed and defeated two of the known Hive Fleets simultaneously, it woul dbe it.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:09 No.10107402
    "Nuke the planet" does not mean "use a few nukes".

    It means destroy the planet.

    Orks are likely either not bringing in reinforcements at all, doing so through teleportation, or if they are bringing them in via ship, then they're too busy fighting the nids.

    That's the point. Even if both sides have a sizable space navy, they're going to be quite busy with one another.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:09 No.10107405

    This is why we have the temple assassins. I'm sure that even if that Ork is the new prophet of Ork-Kind, five hellfire or shieldbreaker rounds to the face would pulp him.

    Assuming the coward High Lords would Authorize that kind of power to save their asses. Which they would.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:10 No.10107417
    Their fleet meant they could survive for a while, not win.
    It was a victory for the Imperium, not the Ultramarines.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:11 No.10107432
    >Orks use mostly ground forces that do melee
    >Tyranids evolving to do melee and be in close combat and not evolving to fly above them and shoot them

    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:12 No.10107456

    Sorry man, basic idea of evolution fail.

    If Orks don't have flying, the Tyranids would adapt so that they lost less and did more. Which would mean flying.

    However, the Planetstrike book DID talk about how the orks fought the Tyranids by jumping off of mountains... Yeah. Darwin was sobbing.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:14 No.10107471
    Dude, the nids have already brought heirophants and flying beasts into play.
    Orks have stompas everywhere.
    Shit is ON. I wish they would talk about it more, would make for the best battle since ever.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:14 No.10107481
    You have to adapt to the enemy.

    If the nids don't present a strong front on the ground, then the orks will roll them. They'll never be able to set up spawning pools or harvest biomass at any steady rate(and according to this battle, they're harvesting biomass as the battle goes on, not waiting until it's over).

    So they need something on the ground capable of matching the Orks, and in the interest of protecting their biomass, they need a lot of it.

    Beyond that, I'm not saying the nids wouldn't have flyers. I'm saying they wouldn't have many space capable flyers.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)03:16 No.10107505
    They'll likely attack whats nearest, especially the Orks.

    Besides, How long do you think it woudl take to delvier all those nukes?

    Oh, and are you sure they wont be intercepted aor caught?

    Serisouly, what the fuck?

    It aint as easy as you make it out to be.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:16 No.10107506
    Nids need to take and hold ground to harvest biomass.

    Unless they focus on putting out the biggest, baddest melee combat shit they can, Orks will roll them.

    And again, I don't mean stuff like gargoyles. I mean that the nids will neglect their space based stuff.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:17 No.10107536
    Of course it's not easy. But it's better than sitting there and doing nothing.

    And I'm not talking about a single ship warping in, hitting the planet, and warping out.

    You deploy a couple fleets, a major force. Enough to fuck the planet and the hive fleet sitting there.

    No point in killing all the stuff on the ground if you let the fleet get away.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:17 No.10107541
    He lives in the Black Library now, so uh... he's doing ok.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)03:20 No.10107573
    How you goin got get him on the planet unotice while the eqiuvalent of Stalingrad is playing out over the entirety of the planet?

    It's likely that due to the way the nida attak that there arent any frontlines...

    ....In order for that Assasin to have a chance, you will have to send a shitton of massive forces along with it. Not to mention how utterly badass and pwoerful such a warbosss would be...



    stupid troll
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:20 No.10107586
    The problem is that the Segmentum doesn't have enough ships to devote to the hive fleet.
    Much of it is engaged in various places. The only thing they could do is borrow a fleet from Solar, but that won't happen.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:21 No.10107589

    True. But then why wouldn't they just focus on one part, and turn it into a safe zone for returning the biomass they killed.

    Wait, crap. Forgot that they have the instincts of an ant hive. I'm used to the kiddies at the FLGS making lists that are more Guard than Tyranid.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)03:21 No.10107590
    Can';t spare them. Too much shit going on.

    Or have you forgot that the imperium is at constant warfare?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:21 No.10107601

    Constant war doesn't mean they can't re-direct supplies and warships.

    Constant STALEMATE, on the other hand...
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:22 No.10107607
    >...In order for that Assasin to have a chance, you will have to send a shitton of massive forces along with it.

    >doesn't know what Callidus assassins are.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:22 No.10107618
    Oh, right, didn't think of this.

    Well, still. Just evolve specialized mega tyrant guards and shit to protect the pools and biomass things, then send out a fucktillion flyers to blast orks and then harvest.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:24 No.10107648
    Sure, but they still have to hold that part.

    The Orks are naturally going to attack positions of strength, because that's where the best fighting is.

    That's not really a reason. After all, the Inquisitor ran around, blowing all the planets up to arrive at this situation.

    If he can do that, another Inquisitor can put together enough of a fleet to do this, especially since it won't take as long.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:25 No.10107662
    Exterminatus can be done with a handful of ships.
    A proper anti-nid fleet can be in the hundreds.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:27 No.10107694
    A virus going across a planet in minutes? MINUTES?!

    Come on! Unless its being released from a hundred different places planetwide, even jet streams take time to go across a planet.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:28 No.10107696
    Why not just custom-build a huge-ass gun that can shoot from one planet onto another?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:29 No.10107718
    Because only Orks would (and already HAVE) commited to such a waste of resources, time, and manpower to make such a thing.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:30 No.10107738
    Was there ever a resolution to that? Or at the nids and orks still fighting and growing to 100 feet?
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)03:30 No.10107745
    Still wouldn't matter against an opponent that utterly badass. Honestly, it wouldn't matter a fucking bit. A Warboss like that likely has a Kustom Force Field powerful enough to tank BaneBlades rounds and keep and trukcing, not to mention generating a powerful Waaagh field of his own.

    You must be thinking of an FPS were you can exploit stupid shit that limits the AI or just dreaming about how the Ork in question would do everything right to get killed.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:30 No.10107751
    Virus bombing is done on the same scale as other types of orbital bombardment, hitting all over the place and especially at major population centers.
    With proper coverage by a large fleet, a planet could likely be covered in minutes.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:32 No.10107781
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    Spergs gettin' mad about sci-fi not measuring up to known science

    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:33 No.10107788
    And yet Orks are the ones holding off 'Nids in an ongoing battle on a planet, infinitely longer than any Imperium force has.

    Just imagine the size of his brain from all that WAAAGH energy...Zog me, he'll probably write Orky Shakespeare....
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:33 No.10107791
    Callidus blades ignore forcefields.

    Hell, they can ignore the fucking power of the warp.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)03:33 No.10107801
    It's GW...

    What do you think they will do about interesting crap that people want to see?

    Remember Rogue Trader!
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:34 No.10107808
    Matter of time until he fights a titan in single combat.

    An Eldar titan, of course. And then an IoM titan will kill him, to demonstrate HOW AWESOME THE IOM IS. YAY HUMANITY! OH GOD I CAME ON MY CODEX, FOR THE EMPEROR.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:34 No.10107812
    Them and H.G. Well's Martians...
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:34 No.10107815

    What was that 60 foot ork warlord?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:35 No.10107831
    What does make Warbosses so strong? Is it that they have better shields and armor? Is it the Waagh field getting THAT strong? Is it good old fashioned 2 foot thick skin?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:35 No.10107839
    According to the lastest 'dex, nids are WINNING.
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    >Average Nob, thats right, not even the proper Warboss, is roughly 20-25 feet in height.

    >60 foot Ork Warlord.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:37 No.10107860
    Ork fanboys won't like that..
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:37 No.10107862
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    Dropping the Octarius bits of fluff.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:37 No.10107873
    Well, from what I can tell it's a combination of their tech and WAAAGH energy. WAAAGH energy is generated when Orks fight, I've seen it written that the longer and harder an Ork fights, the bigger and tougher he gets, so theoretically in this fight against the nids that go on for FUREVURRRR Orks could grow exponentially.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)03:38 No.10107879

    >Implying A Calidus Assassin would be stupid enough to get that close to an Ork of that size.

    >Implying the Calidus would survive.

    Ahem, you do realize the potential Ork in question would be far more badass than Ghazghull himself right?

    I know right?

    Thing is the orks have a truly unlimited amount of self repleninshing manpower while the IOM has to bring in reinforcemtns from other planets. also, the Nids local Numerical Superiority isn't as sever in the case of the Orks.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:38 No.10107890
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    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:39 No.10107904
    I didn't say they were winning or losing, just that the battle is lasting incredulously longer than any ground battle we waged against them that I have seen thus far.
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    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:40 No.10107926
    You know the statline for a Apoc greater daemon? The same, maybe better.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)03:41 No.10107937
    The More an Ork fights and wins, the bigger and stronger he gets, but it takes abit of badass for him to survive that long anyway


    the Nobs thing is about Octarius if I remember, will be potentially corrected soon.

    But the 6o foot warboss was a fight druing the Great Crusade, IRRC.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:42 No.10107945
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    >Orks care little for interplanetary communication beyond the long ranged hurling of insults

    Oh god, I lol'd.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:44 No.10107967

    A link to Lexicanum, perhaps?
    >> Iron Lung 05/28/10(Fri)03:44 No.10107969
    Respeckt-knuckles for DA ORKZ!
    That's bad ass.
    And I Iol'd too.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)03:44 No.10107972
    The Orks are doing what they were intended to do. Fighting and Surviving. Remember, this kind of cataclymic warfare is what the Orks were built for.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:47 No.10108019
    Also, Orks don't get much bigger than Ghazghkull, although he's still tremendous in size, according to Lexicanum he's about 6 meters (19'6") tall.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:47 No.10108030
    I dont really understand Octarius too much. Why dont the imperial forces at least TRY to take out the least defended alien areas with nukes or whatever?

    It makes more sense to hit two feuding forces in the balls with stealth attacks than to let one win and become even more powerful.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:48 No.10108038


    >In the grim darkness of far future, there is only war
    >Only war

    Orks have already won, it's just that nobody has realised it yet.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:49 No.10108044
    >Great Devourer comes to harvest all life.
    >Orks cheer and get ready for the party.

    Gotta love the Orks.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:49 No.10108046
    Seems to me to just be the case of largest 'recorded' ork. I have no doubts that orks could get even bigger than that.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:51 No.10108071

    In theory, an Ork won't stop growing. In practice, once they get above a certain size, they're a walking bullseye for their opponents, be they SPESS MAHREENS or a particularly kunnin' wanna-be warboss.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:52 No.10108083
    There's supposedly no limit to how large an Ork can get, nor how long one can live. All it depends on is how long and hard it's fighting.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:55 No.10108125
    My friend, if an ork survived long enough to attain that kind of stature... it would take a fuck-all lot more than what you're describing to bring it down. It is an Ork, after all...
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:55 No.10108132
    >Deff Koptas and Fighta-Bommas, their pilots itching for battle...

    >> Iron Lung 05/28/10(Fri)03:56 No.10108143
    There might even be, in a gun the size of a battleship,

    Or imagine the choppa. Who knew Paul Bunyan was a Warboss?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:56 No.10108151

    If an Ork acquired that size, according to square-cube law his skull would be thick as fuck. Bolter rounds would probably bounce right off it while he shrugged off the headache.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:57 No.10108154
    Orks. Bigger and stronger the longer they live and the more fights they survive.

    At my LGS there's plans on making some rules and models for monstrous creature orks and gargantuan creature orks,for standard and Apocalypse use, respectively.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)03:57 No.10108156

    In the Grim Darkness of the future there is only Sperg.

    And Canus Wolfsbutt.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:01 No.10108222

    Wolf wolf wolf
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:03 No.10108262

    Did I say SPESS MAHREENS? I meant an entire squad of Terminators that said gigantork was ballsy enough to try krumpin' barehanded. Orks are known for taking outlandish risks for teh lulz.


    And even if they don't, it's only a few head holes. Doesn't really affect his stompin' boot or his choppin' arm.

    That's the best part about Orks' reality-bending psyker powers: if the WAAAGH! believes that the boss should be able to shrug off a few "minor" headwounds, he will.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:03 No.10108265
    Oh you know he would have like 3 of those cannons, and little turrets on his pauldrons for smaller orks to shoot off of. Paul Bunyan choppa, YES.

    Oh god-emperor, imagine a weirdboy of that size!

    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:04 No.10108281
    Better Idea.
    Let them occupy themselves while you deal with other threats and then whipe out the survivors...

    And Remember, thanks to the Waaagh, he wont suffer the negative effects of such enormous stature.

    Plus, its not just the size, toughness and strength.

    It's the fact that He not only has a epic shit-ton of experience but is likely far more skilled at simply surviving. If an Ork has exceeded 30 feet, it has obviously successfully dealt with being a bullet magnet.

    Hell, it might have learned how to aim...IIRC One Warboss leanred that Aiming+plus Dakka equals bigga splosions...

    But think about, the bigger an Ork, the more attention it grabs, if it survives long enough, then its competence gets higher and higher as well as its general skill.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:04 No.10108282

    If they lose and the nids get the Emperor and his pure genes, we're going to see 40 foot Emperor-Nids running around just blasting the fuck.

    The Imperium probably doesn't want that.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:05 No.10108290
    Indeed, and Orks are pretty much the only beings statistically shown to come out on top against those kinds of odds. Killboy, right?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:06 No.10108315

    Don't Orks already have more shooting power than IG?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:07 No.10108334
    Eh, I'm working on kitbashing a WHFB Giant and Deffdread into a monstrous Warboss for my Green Tide.

    His stat range will probably be something like:
    Unit Type:
    Independant Character, Monstrous Creature
    WS6 BS2 S10 T6 A5 I1 Ld9 Sv4+/5+
    Wargear:Rokkit launcha, Twin linked Big Shoota, Cyborks, Thick Skin

    Thick Skin: This Warboss' Thick Skin protects him just as well as any 'ard plate could, this confers the Warboss with a 4+ Armor Save
    Special Rules:
    Dat Flailin' Git!, Fearless

    Dat Flailin' Git!:
    The Warboss cares little for where his arms swing about in the midst of combat, and as such sends both friend and foe flying about. This gives the Warboss 1d6 extra attacks against both the Opponent's models and your own!
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:08 No.10108344


    Every time you mention Killboy, someone googles for Deff Skwadron and sighs of nostalgia.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:08 No.10108348

    By the canine teeth of the Great Wolf, passed down through the Wolftime when the Fenris Wolves howled in a Wolvish way, I greet you fellow Wolf Brother with the standard butt sniff.

    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:08 No.10108355
    And What If the Ork survives that encounter and gets even bigger? What if gets to the point of wearing Titan Level Armor and simply obliterating enemies from accross the Horizon?

    Damn that sounds awesome.

    5 meter 6-barreled Gatling guns...two in each hand...
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:09 No.10108371
    The ork will win.
    A decent statline would be absurd S, BS of 7 or more, choppa would be considered a MC sttack, 4+ attacks per round at least.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:10 No.10108382
    Got the reference?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:11 No.10108385

    Yeah, but eventually he'll bump into something he simply can't handle. 'Eadbuttin' competition with a squiggoth, rochambeau -vs- a titan, trading dakka with a Baneblade. It's inevitable. Once you get to scales that big, you're going to get at least a FEW of the boyz who start thinking, "I dunno, da boss is ded killy, but dat fing's zoggin 'UGE!"

    And that's why you never see planet-sized Orks somehow managing to scream WAAAGH! in the void of space.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:11 No.10108391
    Imagine... the greatest ork in all the universe... he'd be too big to fit in a ship. he'd just fight whatever was on the planet. Then one day he gets to that horizon, and wins...

    And he would weep, for there would be no more nids left to conquer.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:13 No.10108410
    I forgot to mention the other main problem.

    How many Orks do you think would be under his control?
    >> Iron Lung 05/28/10(Fri)04:14 No.10108420
    On the plus side, he could just jump into space and swim for another planet.
    Like an Orky Omnicron. An ecosystem unto himself, micro-Boyz battlan and worshipan across his vast Orkiness.
    Paddlin' across the Void, lookin' for a little Waaagh.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:14 No.10108424
    There simply aren't enough. He will never ever find enough to equate Waagh! to body size.
    >> I apologized on 4chan 05/28/10(Fri)04:14 No.10108426
    >And that's why you never see planet-sized Orks somehow managing to scream WAAAGH! in the void of space.

    >Implying that's not what Gork and Mork are.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:15 No.10108432
    This is not forgetting that Orks can canonically survive the removal/destruction of all internal and external organs up to and including the HEAD. A 60 foot Ork would be indestructible.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:15 No.10108438
    The conversation has come up that, if it lived long enough, an ork could become the size of a planet. If this happened it would get a atmosphere of its own. And thus be able to travel though space without a problem. But also being sentient fungi, do orks really need to breath?

    In the same conversation the idea of SM putting armor on everything, trees, rocks, guns, armor.... all the way up to a planet. I could see a SM planet hurtling though the galaxy
    >> I apologized on 4chan 05/28/10(Fri)04:15 No.10108439

    That's sounds incredibly awesome.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:16 No.10108442
    Oh Waaagh, wherefore art thou? O lawd...

    Well that's because there aren't any INFINITE WARS to fuel this kind of growth. The only other one is Armageddon and the Imps pretty much have a cap'n'trade on that one.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:16 No.10108447

    That's beautiful that is. Imagine he gets even bigger, beats the entire imperium down. Figures its time to go pay those nid boys back on their home turf...
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:16 No.10108451
    Also, like I said, IF HE SURVIVED LONG ENOUGH, not oonly will general badassery get increase, but by the nature of his ways, his competency will too.

    A Baneblade? At 50 ft it's likely the weapon he carries could core the damn thing.

    A Squiggoth? At that point, he could out fight it.

    Eventually he would attract attention from orbit...

    So personally, I think the real practical limit would be around 100-120 feet before orbital guns start aiming for his ass.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:17 No.10108465
    I think Gork n Mork actually went past that and ascended straight into motherfuckin' IDEALS. THEY ARE SO HUGE THEY ARE NOW CONCEPTS FOR THE MIND TO PONDER!
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:18 No.10108479
    Orbital guns? Thats what the bat is for, isnt it? Knock that lance battery right back where it came from.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:19 No.10108484
    The galaxy is actually Gork and Mork. All other planets and stars are just a part of them
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:19 No.10108489
    As a member of earth, I claim we are the right nipple of Gork.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:20 No.10108497
    ...now we're talking...

    Oh no, like I said, it happened, but the Ork in qeustion took the combined might of the GEOM and a few Primarchs to takedown....
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:20 No.10108503
    Hive mind absorbs the Emperor, gains fuckall powers.

    "what the FUCK did I just absorb?"
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:21 No.10108513
    Gork and/or Mork is actually the source of all tyranids everywhere. Individual Tyranid units are just very powerful Orc spores.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:21 No.10108517

    Wrestlin Void Whales in between Waaaghs
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:22 No.10108525
    >How many Orks do you think would be under his control?
    Kryptman has created the Ork end game scenario.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:22 No.10108528
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    >> Alpharius Orkmegon 05/28/10(Fri)04:23 No.10108537
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    this thread is good and you should feel good.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:24 No.10108550
    ...hey, lets get on a story for this craziness.

    Although we really to to pay attention on how many Tombworlds they crump under their boot.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:24 No.10108561
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    I really should be in bed, but I do love a good ork thread.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:26 No.10108583
    I always dismissed orks as a joke race that was liked only by loud mouthed fatbeards who like to scream WAAAGH! at the gaming table, but bloody hell, that is an awesome mental image, one that actually qualifies as "awesome".
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:27 No.10108585
    >At 50

    Oh. Shit, I thought we were still talking about the 20-30 ft range. There's still stuff that's more than a match for them, and Orks aren't known for contemplating their own fragile mortality. Once they're in the 50-60 ft range, though, all bets are off. At that point, I hope you have a fleet at high anchor and enough ordnance to glass the planet flat, then incinerate the remains, then vaporize what's left after that.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:29 No.10108614
    You now realize how appropriate that tengen toppa orken lagann pic is.
    >> elusive 05/28/10(Fri)04:29 No.10108617
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    I'm thinking of picking up one of these and modding the skrull into an Ork. Beef it up make it slouch, then toss it out on the table next time an apoc games happens.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:29 No.10108624
    Read the thread. Think about it.

    Oh and yes, they are only concerned with killing but many want to keep doing it...
    >> elusive 05/28/10(Fri)04:33 No.10108665
    I'm liking what I'm seeing here. but shouldn't a monstrous Ork have like 6 wounds and eternal warrior?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:35 No.10108691

    I suppose it's just a question of how kunnin' this particular theoretical Gigantork is. Past a certain size, the answer is "brutally", and he's not going to die by DERP.
    >> 1d4chanfatguy 05/28/10(Fri)04:36 No.10108699
    why? that would be shit
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:38 No.10108724
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    >> elusive 05/28/10(Fri)04:40 No.10108742
    Just an idea to start off and build off of. I could do a plushie one much better and easier but I think my semi plushie sqiggoth is more then enough fluff on the field.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:40 No.10108746
    >I could see a SM planet hurtling though the galaxy
    Just so it could run into something.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:41 No.10108747
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    errr.... WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!! planets!!
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:41 No.10108751

    Exactly. That's the real problem. Past 20 feet that Ork will, by virtue of survivng long enough to get that size, will be extremely cuning. Hell, it made have made a connection with Caution, forethought, and planning means more killing. past 50 ft it may well have instinctualy learned to aim as well.

    Past a certain point, the danger an Ork poses grows exponentially as not only is it sheer power a problem but also it's experience and growing intellect. I am honestly curios how such an ork would think?

    Also, Ork Waaagh plus Treknobabble.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:41 No.10108753
    weedy gits. dey needs a right hard smack to remind em who's the Gigantork around here.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:42 No.10108757
    Ok, so an Ork gets to be the size of a large mountain, then gets infected by genestealers.

    Upon his death, his ork spores cover the planet with genestealer-growing pods.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:42 No.10108764
    >plushie squiggoth
    >makes a fluff joke
    Made my night.
    >> elusive 05/28/10(Fri)04:44 No.10108782
    glad I could help
    I thought Orks can't be infected by nids.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:46 No.10108794
    You are just being stupid.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:47 No.10108816
    >thread about giant orks swimming through space and dominating star-systems worth of orks
    >calls my idea stupid
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:51 No.10108847
    >I am honestly curios how such an ork would think?

    I dunno, I always thought non-Brainboyz were very light on the "think" and very heavy on the "know" and the "do". Sure, he'd be up to the eyeballs in low kunnin', but I highly doubt he'd suddenly sprout a proper intellect. He'd obviously be a weapon master, and have experience to call upon from his countless thousands of battles. He might've even rediscovered the lost art of taktiks. FFS, he might even have a Shokk Attack Cannon as a sidearm, sending Stormboyz to their destination EVEN FASTA.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:52 No.10108855
    You need to brush up on your Gork and Mork.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:52 No.10108861
    Geneloota kults happen occasionally. Generally orks kill them off for being unproppa, but occasionally a warboss recognises their krumpyness and keeps the ones that are orky enough to fight against the bug boyz/listen to orders or a whole warband gets infected.
    >> elusive 05/28/10(Fri)04:53 No.10108876
    Genestealers are not limited to infecting humans; virtually any race or species can be infested, including Orks. However, broods within a society such as Orks are seldom big or long-lasting on account of the special life cycle and the extremely intolerant structure of society of the Orkoid species. In fact Orks seem to be rather unpopular hosts, and serve mostly only as a kind of interim solution, until more worthwhile victims are available2. Genestealer infections can only thrive in large, and relatively open societies such as those of human
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:54 No.10108888

    you are just being awesome (I fixed that for you)
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:54 No.10108890
    My idea is funny and awesome and spawned other people to particpate.

    youre just being stupid and petty.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)04:58 No.10108934
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    Smartboyz. The brainboyz were the ork's creators.

    But they're more not good at imagining things, they just 'do' them. That said, as they grow, they just 'do' basic tactics. A nob just knows how to command a mob of boyz around, and a boss just knows tactics at the warband level. A warlord like ghazzy or nazdreg will just 'know' how to best command the hordes and hordes of orks under his command. Nazdreg is smarter then most though, mind you.

    Also: Go to da waaagh!, find nozeminer's 'uge boss. Look around, find a few even bigger ones. Shit bricks.
    >> Invictus Legio !CpJkp7IQpY!!6jEubIE7cGN 05/28/10(Fri)04:59 No.10108947
    Link plz?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)05:00 No.10108961
    If an ork reached a certain mass would he not implode into a black hole?

    Also the idea of a giant ork dying kind of reminds me of Norse myth with the dead giant that got turnt into the universe.
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    Smart boyz? So something that can be considerd smarter then a big mek?
    >> Crube !uDvDt64Bf2 05/28/10(Fri)05:01 No.10108976
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    check out tyranid biodiversity through google.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)05:02 No.10108983
    Can genestealers infest Eldar? You'd think that they could psychically sense the infestation and kill them.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)05:02 No.10108986

    No, he'd be big enough to fight the entropic collapse of the Universe in the ultimate Waaaagh.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)05:06 No.10109030
    Biologicly- why not?
    >> elusive 05/28/10(Fri)05:06 No.10109036
    I was just quoting what I read on a 40k wiki. But still any infected orks would be snotlings then grots before they could be boyz.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)05:06 No.10109038

    Orkiest Forum around.
    Physically infect them: Yes. Get away with it and infiltrate Eldar society: Unlikely.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)05:08 No.10109064
    I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that orks kill infected orks.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)05:18 No.10109189
    Seems like the images for Steeljaw's Massive Boss are broken. However some orky threads of note:

    Da Oilaz Blooprintz: Awesomest builds

    Da Klanz Projekt: Making Clan rules

    Big Meks Classics: Very best models/conversions.

    Nozeminer's Bosses: The new one is almost all Green stuff, huge and orky as they come.

    Ein's Light up warphead: He's done it again. http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/?showtopic=29270

    Annurva Big Warboss: Not the biggest to grace the waaagh by any means though.

    Blud axe bosses and nobz:
    >> Anonymous 05/28/10(Fri)05:20 No.10109213
    Yeah, dem geneloota orkstealerz are naff and unproppa. Uurva orks don't like them instinctively, adnd krump them at the first oppourtunity. Like CHaos orks, it happens, but it's rare.

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    Well as always, muchos gracias. This is one fa/tg/uy signing off.

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