>Planes & Mercs
>My Face

>>12372475
No planefags around?

>>12372524
Looks like the board is finally getting cleaned up.

>>12372527
>>Die in a fire.

meh bump

>>12372537
Oh, hi.

What's this a plane thread? I love plane threads!

Old planes thread?

Old planes thread.

And just to keep this on topic, I don't think OP will be posting again soon. His character ate it and it's been a while.

Of course, Planes and Mercs has been off for months at a time...

I will never find a group around here that will play anything other than White Wolf. ;_;

>>I've asked the group if they were interested even, and gotten some pretty undeserved scorn for the suggestion.

>>12372627

Have them roll WoD sheets in addition to Planes and Mercs stuff. They'll never know the difference.

>>12372633
It wasn't just that. Apparently anything resembling "TOP GUN FAGGOTRY" is to be avoided at all costs.

There's also the part where I really want to play instead of GM it, but I'd bite the bullet if I could get players.

Nazi super science is best science!

>Planes & Mercs
>mfw it wasn't an OP Again thread

>>12372627
>>12372604 here

You know... I could run Planes & Mercs as a quest, if there were interested players. I might put a major twist to things, but I've run some quests before and they were very well received.

That assumes, of course, that /tg/ would be interested. I know we have quite a few quests as it is (especially with the recent flood of 40k related ones). If you'd like me to give it a shot, say so.

>>12372680
I would like it.

>>12372680

As totally fucking excited as I would be to have this be true, I've a couple of issues.

1) fa/tg/uys will be falling over each other to play "Baron" or the main dude. So probably best to run it like a squad management quest similar to Zeonquest.
2) Exactly how good of a questfag do you think you are? Because if you fuck this up, we will hate you and you will hate yourself more.
3) It will never be Mercs and Planes because you're not Steve and don't run wetworks for DOD or what-have-you and are therefor not a god. Not a criticism, I just think you shouldn't try to replicate that. Maybe something closer to Ace Combat?

>>12372711
>>12372711
1) I haven't partaken in Zeonquest (Gundam wasn't something I was exposed to while growing up). I'll see about looking into it. I was actually thinking about /tg/ taking the part of an automated piloting system that could be hooked into the cockpit of existing airframes, with intent to have a computerized hivemind squadron making use of already built fighters. Thanks to a glitch, self awareness develops. It could work out like this pic.
2) I run Doppleganger Damacy (which has been on a bit of hold lately thanks to internet shenanigans, and keeping the same time zone after moving halfway round the world, making it very difficult to slot times that the usual crowd can make). People seem to like it. I've run some other things too that people have enjoyed, though it seems not to the same extent. Myself? I see continual opportunity to learn and improve, and note various people who I believe are clearly better than me (StonerDM, of Bloodquest and AlchemyQuest notoriety, for instance).
3) It could be that. I'm flexible.

I'm a little hesitant about doing this with Doppleganger Damacy still unfinished, but if I ran it during times that were good for me, it would be doable. I make no promises about doing this, but it's an option.

>>12372680

Valid criticisms from >>12372711
aside, I'd like in as well, but that might have to wait until I get a decent computer again... (and the joints in my fingers don't deteriorate further...shit sucks)


>>12372468
>>12372604
Shameless plug (yeah, I know, still not entirely done):
http://www.mediafire.com/?6vbu7d8u389j84y
http://www.mediafire.com/?mmwaimk6382zagh
http://www.mediafire.com/?4amm2odlijq3a2h
http://www.mediafire.com/?7st24zs53u36c16
http://www.mediafire.com/?938e4c46mjbn2ba
http://www.mediafire.com/?7nf7tkdfi6vljgh

>>12372811
>>(and the joints in my fingers don't deteriorate further...shit sucks)
I hear you bro. Wrist and elbows too? And by any chance, are you waking up from sleeping with your hand feeling all tingly like the blood's been cut off (recent thing for me if I'm not wearing the wrist brace the doc gave... should've got this looked at earlier, fuck my life.)?

>>12372811
OP here. Links are good, but what are they exactly and which is what?

>>12372835
Yeah, and it's not even winter yet...

>>12372793

Hey yeah, Doppleganger Damacy was fun and your idea could be cool to work with. Would it be entirely automated or still have the human-interface of a pilot somewhere? Human-AI relations are always fun so even if there was regular interaction with, like, ground control...

>>12372841
Extended Air War C21 tables including some shit like cargo planes, bombers, EW aircraft and the Ace Combat super planes

>>12372859
Human-AI banter you say?

>>12372793
>>I was actually thinking about /tg/ taking the part of an automated piloting system that could be hooked into the cockpit of existing airframes, with intent to have a computerized hivemind squadron making use of already built fighters. Thanks to a glitch, self awareness develops. It could work out like this pic.
Hmmm... reading this again, I have to wonder: too big a suspension of disbelief, having an AI like that? The rest of the quest would otherwise be pretty grounded, if abstracted in some parts to keep things from taking too long on my end (though I HAVE done some distance mapping already, and cross-referencing to various aircraft's maximum combat radiuses).

And to clarify: that pic, or maybe this one, as another example--that's your character. All of them, at once.

System would be a modded AW21C, mixed with one called Android.

>>12372859
I've been doing a lot of campaign preplanning, and a pilot wasn't something I figured on. Human wingmen, yes. Humans that need to be coordinated, even bargained, with to ensure that you keep getting the precious fuel and maintenance to keep you airborne (not to mention runway use, AGI use to keep you powered when engines are cold, a crew to load ammunition onto your racks--cause you don't have hands)? Yes. Humans on the ground that need support or can provide it, yes. I figure that time on the ground will end up as important as time in the air.

>>12372811
This looks handy. Thanks.

>>12372859
Also, I'm glad you enjoyed Doppleganger Damacy, and I'm REALLY hoping to run another thread this weekend. Sunday maybe.

>>12372680
I would definitely be interested in participating, if you run it. I was actually wondering the same thing myself on the way to work today; how great an Ace Combat Quest would be, and how it could be run, and if achievement medals like in AC0 should be given to the players or not.

>>achievement medals like in AC0 should be given to the players or not
I need more details. I may have grown up as a planefag, but I never bought a vidya system later than the N64 (old school is best school, challenge my dual player Tetris at your own risk). Everything I know about Ace Combat, I learned from /tg/.

Anyone have any experience with Mercenary Air Squadron?

>Ace Combat in my Planes & Mercs
Only if you want combat to look like this.

>>12373070
Took a look at it.

>>12373077

>>12373019
It's been a while since I played it, so I could be missing quite a lot.
AC Zero: The Belkan War had medals that could be unlocked, like achievements, for things like number of kills, number of kills with guns, how many times you protected your wingman, and whether you completed the game as one of the 3 Ace types.
Also, whenever you shot down a named enemy ace, or their squadron, you unlocked their emblem in the trophy room. It gave you a quick run-down of who the person was, what they were like, and how they died at your hands or somehow miraculously survived their encounter with the Demon Lord.

>Four people interested
Dang, this seems good. If I could run it on weekdays about 7 hours earlier than now, things would be perfect and the threads would appear like hotcakes on the grittle. 5 hours earlier than now on Fridays/weekends for starting each thread works too... though everyone will be waking up no matter which I do. Such is the problem of having a US player base when your clock is half a world ahead. Heck, Doppleganger Damacy requires me to get up earlier than 7 on my Saturday if I'm going to run it for the normal crowd. Any suggestions on this note?

I'll start doing the prep needed to convert things. Don't expect it to start earlier than 2 weeks from now though, paying work is keeping me tasked and there's quite a bit that needs changing to convert it from a 3-person RL game to a /tg/ quest, especially if I'm to bring my A-game. Also, for those wanting an Ace Combat bent, what ideas/cool things/themes/etc specifically would you like incorporated from it?

Take it easy, /tg/.

>>12373253
Give us an AWACs plane. I don't know if we should be the AWACs Operator, or the squadron, but we need someone who gives us the orders and in-mission updates.
Hawk Eye, Sky Eye, Eagle Eye, Thunderhead, and Oka Nieba.
Enemy Ace squadrons in addition to the mooks.

I don't know if it should take place in Strangereal, this world, or a setting of your own making, though.

>>12373253
GMT+1 (Dutchfag) here, so I'm ahead of the US crowd as well

>>12373333
Duly noted. If you nab an AWACS and install a control box in it, you'll be able to fly it, but handling all the equipment inside, not so much. Not in the stereotypical E-3 at least; but that's far from the only EW/C2 aircraft out there, and it's not likely you'd be flying alone (your call as players, of course). Don't forget communications with the ground, too.
Enemy aces is something I'll keep in mind. I even have a very valid idea, now.
World will be ours, with reasonable speculation.

Good stuff, sir--anything else?

>>12373417
Excellent.

>>12373438
Depending on whether we're military or mercs we could downscale the AWACS, go with something like a Saab 2000 or Embraer R-99 instead of a Sentry or Mainstay

>>12373438
If we're going with the distributed hivemind squadron idea, then the AWACs should be human-crewed and operated, and act as both our in-mission support and handler.

Since we're going to be the squadron, you'll want to flesh out the other characters we'll interact with. Much of the later Ace Combats are as much about the people surrounding the Main Ace and how they interact with the player.
So the AWACs commander, the chief mechanic of our mechanical support team, lead programmer for our IT support staff, the commander of our unit, and maybe even other human pilots of our squadron if its not completely automated.

How about using an OA-10?

>>12373543
It's very likely given the entry scenario I'm planning that you'll have the choice for either option; whichever you prefer.

>>12373553
We're thinking along the same lines, then. I saw how the NPCs were what /tg/ used most as its means of interacting with the setting in Doppleganger Damacy; I presume it will be only more true now.

Didn't read thread, but OP AGAIN and most of the planes and mercs crowd migrated to a forum Sukhoi set up:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/PlanesAndMercs/forum/1524721/

As far as I know, that's where all the new updates are.

>>12373622
>It's very likely given the entry scenario I'm planning that you'll have the choice for either option
That sounds like the branching storylines from AC3, perhaps incorporating the branching missions of AC5 and the (Soldier, Mercenary, Knight) scoring system from AC0.

>>12373724
Branching storylines are one thing, but I don't plan out a plot. I get the setting, initial NPCs, and scenario drafted, and let the players loose. Then the wrench throwing begins.

I hadn't thought about achievements and scoring prior to you saying so though, and you've given me some ideas for implementing it that I'll have to ponder on a bit more. I think you're right, though, it would add to the quest to have them.

>>12373631
Yes, that's the forum, but OP has posted all his recaps on /tg/ as well.

And he's been about as inactive on the forum as he has been on /tg/, unfortunately

>>12373769
You could have both in-game and OOC trophies and achievements.
We're an AI, right? So they must have come up with some kind of scoring system and metric for our progress. So that achievements for flight time unaided by human control, kills, special maneuvers used, and so on. OOC trophies could be things like small bio's of aces we've downed, and more humorous achievements unlocked.

>>12372680
>>12373622


So, just out of curiosity, how many airframes would we (the AI) control, and what would we have access to for starter planes?

I kinda feel like making our squadron right now...

>http://www.thundercity.com/

What's that? $8000 for an hour in a Buccaneer? I have that much, even enough for that and the flight to get there/back?

Dammit, you beautiful British bomber, why must you tempt me so?

>>12374078
Will do.

>>12374185
Tally ho!

>>12374266
Any idea yet on what type of missions we'll be flying early on?

AtA? AtG? Multirole?
That will definitely have an impact on our starting airframe (along with availability ofcourse)

Also: I take it range on those boxes and their data transmission is limited? Otherwise we could just put some processor boxes in an AWACS or one in a U-2 circling way outside the enemy's range

>>12372475
That is one happy plane!

>>12372855
That is a lot of rocket pods.

manly tier- propeller/oldschool jet
pussy tier- vidya with wings a.k.a. modern jets

>>12374213
Here's the email again since I deleted the post.

Out, a couple hours later than planned. Have a good one, /tg/.

Sure is /k/ in here...

Plane thread?! We got here as fast as we could!

>>12374652
Bartender, got JP-7?

>>12373953

How the hell does that thing fly? Better yet what is it?

>>12375535
Boeing 707 with Phalcon AEW&C system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EL/M-2075

Been busting my ass on my project- modified maintenance (AGAIN!), still working on weapons pages. Getting the aircraft ready to play is on the back burner, so I have a slowly-lengthening list on my hands there.