They are all as ugly as sin.

Well, the elf with glasses might be an ugly duckling and the drow might look good after a bukakke.

Could you draw them in a way that doesn't make them look like CHA 1?

>>12706815
>>12706841
>>12706850
I lol'd. They really are ugly as hell though.

Another /tg/ character to add to this!

>>12706815
So what?

>>12706872
this picture needs cockmongler in the back, smiling like a proud father.

>>12706872
What the fuck.

>>12706872
The 40k characters are Culexus' and isn't the shark girl from somewhere else entirely?

The only /tg/ character there is Verity in two forms, and she was just some furfag's fursona.

>>12706872
No. Go away. You stink.

Looking forward to further writefaggotry. I'll watch the archives. :)

>>12706903
Verity never drops the accent.

>>12706815
sorry, but adventurers don't all have maxed CHA, unlike brothel-employees. Many of them aren't perfect beauties.

Deal With It.

....
I don't know, I know I was impressed by Slowdrawfags work

>>12706938
...what does that have to do with the post you quoted?

>>12707010
You jelly, uglyfag?

>>12707010
There's a bit of middle ground between eyeblight and painted whore.

>>12707010
Regardless, they're unappealing, poorly drawn, and you handful of fa/tg/uys who have latched onto them are fucking sad.

and here comes the inevitable backlash
Wow, that was fast

>>12706796
Separated at birth?

>>12707095
>you give a shit about not-sexy female characters? How pathetic
...hahahah, seriously?

>OMG UNATTRACTIVE FEMALES GTFO!!!!
>/tg/ isn't sexist and has no double standards!

>>12707090

That's the middle ground?

California girls are ugly as sin then.

The characters themselves might be sexy, but OP's drawing is just bad.

>>12707119
I could care less if they were sexy. I'm not interested in women. They're just very unappealing. Backstories, pictures, lolrandom bullshit personalities, everything. I'm sick of seeing them.

>>12707139
The characters are adventurers, who live in a wilderness. They're unkempt, with workwomen's figures.

>>12707118

Ohh dear god, The Magic School Bus makes so much sense now. It was all a but a Trance.

>>12707144
The drawing is bad. The subject being dirty is no excuse for a bad, unappealing drawing that everyone should feel bad about.

Well, here's something to get the thread started: character arcs.

I'm thinking that Gal'adruh is the one least in need of one, because frankly she's the most comfortable in her identity. She was a teenager when her family was killed, so she can most effectively compare what she would have become with her biological family with what she is now. She's pretty much decided on her course; finding any remnants of her family or previous life would be interesting, but would not make her fundamentally change her orcish nature. She's the Carrot Ironfoundersson of the group, as far as comfort with her odd racial status goes. The fact that she's a mother and widow whose orcish husband died of old age means that she's also the most mature of the group period, with the possible exception of Professor Dwarf.

Sandwich is second in that regard; her heritage as a drow is something she utterly rejects, so it's unlikely to be something she would willingly explore or change. Her character arc is more likely to relate to her paladinhood, and to forcing people to acknowledge that she isn't a monster. She's not likely to get along with elves at all.

>>12707141
If you're sick of seeing them, there is a solution.

-Hide thread
-Enjoy board

>>12707090
It was done by miximg photographs or something?
Is there something like that of other gender? Or some kind of "total average".

I'd say lower left one might be actually quite cute. She just needs bath and some good clothes.

>>12707139
This. The image just serves as a springboard for the roneryfags' imaginations.

>>12707178
There was a project taking photographs two thousand male and two thousand female faces and using a computer program to average them out. They did it in five different countries, I think.

They all look quite pretty, and oddly similar considering the varied locations of the source photographs.

>>12707173
finally, someone getting with the point of the thread rather than playing art critic/beauty consultant.

How about Violet and Keekee? What're your opinions of them?

I think Sandwich should visit with some priestesses of Eilistraee.

Reiterating my suggestion to give one of them a hero's death.

Damn, if I wasn't so lazy I'd write it up myself.

>>12707237
that'd work, actually
When Sandwhich was working with Drow-Chan and Pally-dude to take down the summoning cult, she had a vision of Elistree, who gave her information on how to beat the eldritch abonimation and told her "There is no sin in loveliness,"
I'd like to see that fleshed out- the elven gods reaching out to a proverbial lost child

>>12707173
Violet is the least comfortable in her own skin of any of them. Unlike the other three, there isn't really a racial rite of passage she could go through to prove she was a member of her adoptive race, and her own personality would have made her even less able to fit in with other halflings her own age. At the same time, she's going to find elves to be insufferable, somehow managing to do far less of importance than halflings despite looking down of halflings for prioritizing good food and entertainment over theology and magic. She's going to have to spend a long time figuring out who she is and who she wants to be.

Keekee is going to have trouble because she's likely to not even realize that she's changed until she has a chance to return home and finds that she no longer quite fits in with the kobolds who raised her. She's also the most likely to seek to change her adoptive race, once she has the chance to see just what the other races think of the kobolds and how screwed the kobolds are by their position at the bottom of the XP food chain.

The Professor's character arc would be coming to the realization that being "elfier-than-thou" isn't necessarily a good idea, and coming to embrace the possibilities of what he is - a dwarf raised by elves - instead of becoming what he isn't - an elf by blood and lineage. And, of course, facilitating the growth of the other four.

>>12707289
These are, at heart, player characters
Really, unless your a dick DM, you don't ever intentionally kill your characters just for the sake of "I think they should die", whether it's a heroic death or not.
oh, you challenge them, certainly, and try to break them anyway you can, but you don't kill one off randomly to hieghten "Drama"
There are other ways to show that this is a serious concept for serious people rather than just another fa/tg/uy fetish-fuel harem/waifu thing.
I can see your intents, but I'm afraid I'll have to respectfully disagree at this point.

>>12707237
Personally, I rather doubt her harsh viewpoints of her blood-kin race would change, even in light of learning some of them worship a goddess of benevolence.

>>12707309
Sehanine Moonbow from what I remember. I was more suggesting Sandwich get nekkid and dance.

>>12707369
the last to suggest that got a rather strong suggestion that further comments of wanting her doing such would result in a hammer-strike to the delicates.

>>12707414
This is why you give her beer FIRST.

>>12707309
Some of them are going to be pricks. Sandwich is a drow by blood and a dwarf by adoption, neither of which will endear her to the elven gods who are more focused on the "elf" part of their portfolios.

If she were to shift her primary focus of worship to Eilistraee or any other elven deity, it would be in the hopes of redeeming a significant portion of the drow from their servitude to Lolth. Both her own existence and her time with Drisryna prove that it's possible to be a non-evil Drow without turning into yet another Drizz't clone, so this seems a logical path for Sandwich to take.

>>12707330
>There are other ways to show that this is a serious concept for serious people rather than just another fa/tg/uy fetish-fuel harem/waifu thing.
Keep in mind that moe worship and "I wish to be the little girl!" shit are just as bad as fetish-fuel, if not slightly worse.

The fact that you look at them as "player characters" is silly. They're just characters. Nothing more.

>>12707506
So, possible long term goal for Sandwhich could be the redemption of Drow?
Or at the very least helping those who want to throw off the shackles of Lolth and do good without being angsty about it?

>>12707545
Maybe. Though having her do so without breaking away from serving Moradin might be tricky...

>>12707330
>serious concept for serious people

Well, let's see. One of the party is trying to stop a war between her native species and her adoptive one, not least because her half-orc daughter is inevitably going to be caught in the middle of a racially charged war between orcs and elves.

One of the party is a fledgling paladin who biologically is a member of one of the most hated species on the planet, and is likely to end up trying to redeem at least some portion of that species from the evil overgod they've served since time immemorial. While also learning how to balance her life as a paladin with her life as a person, no less.

One of the party is a shut-in with crippling social issues, no real source of cultural identity, and no clue who she really is or who she wants to be, who's now wandering the earth with this band of misfits in the hopes that she can find some purpose in her life.

One is as close to a feral child as it's possible to be while still being raised by sentient beings, mainly because the beings who raised her are themselves a ragged, scattered race who seem to exist solely to provide henchmen to evildoers and target practice to adventurers, only surviving in the places that no stronger species wants. Once she has enough of an education to give her native intelligence something to work with, she's likely to start planning a revolution to give kobolds something better than the scraps they're usually left with, even as her experience and knowledge take her further and further away from her life and identity as a kobold warrior and trapmaster.

And the last is a self-hating elfaboo dwarf who has to somehow keep this motley band together long enough to finish gathering data for his doctoral thesis.

>>12707751
And none of them are the harem/waifu/fetishbait that the haters fear/want them to be.

>>12707741
I think she would always personally worship Moradin; she might just end up serving a different god. It depends on which one would best fit the goal of redeeming some significant portion of the drow, and for that matter which god would best fit the drow who were cleansed of Lolth's malefic influence.

>>12707808
Can a Paladin serve two gods?

>>12707797
Well, to be fair, they COULD be, but that's no different from literally any other character ever created in any sort of fiction.

The important thing is that they don't HAVE to be. As I hope my post demonstrated, there's more than enough meat on the characterization bones to flesh them out and give them interesting dramatic story arcs without having to resort to the cliche of "not serious enough, let's kill someone to make it DEEP MATURE STORYTELLING".

>>12707837
exactly what I was getting at in my "not waifu" comment.

>>12707829
I honestly have no idea. In this case, I think what might happen is that she serves some other god as a paladin, but when she prays for her own sake she prays to Moradin. Not for spells, but for the sort of things that people who aren't divine spellcasters would pray to a god for.

>>12707741

She's really just working some rough material into something good and better than what it was before.

I kind of see her taking that approach with the drow race as a whole.

The ones she doesn't have to smite, at least.

>>12707751
>>12707325
>>12707173

we need to archive this thread alongside the others, if only for posts like this.

Sandy- Lawful Good
Gal'adruh- Chaotic good
Violet- Neutral Good/ true neutral
Keekee- chaotic neutral/evil
Professor Dwarf- lawful neutral

>>12707751

Goldentusk is a widow and a mother, not to mention Amazonian as fuck, so I can't see the waifu problem there.

Keekee is just plain fucked in the head/feral.

Sandwich and Violet? The latter I can see the MAI WAIFU shit starting with. Sandwich to a lesser degree. Focusing on Sandy's dorfiness and professionalism might curb some of that.

Violet having an infestation of mudcrabs might be the only way to completely prevent it from happening to her, but them's the breaks. As long as it doesn't come to dominate the character, should be good.

Professor Dorf may not have much of a problem, but I wouldn't write him off too easily. He does have an impressive moustache after all.

>>12707921

Eh, I'm just going to copy-paste it.

Flooding the archive with these threads is only going to paint future good writefaggotry with a negative brush.

>>12707881
>implying some drow loli is going to successfully convert/redeem many drow
Jesus tittyfucking christ on a cuntbadger.

>>12707852
And thank you for that, because even on 4chan positive feedback about something you wrote feels pretty nice.

I just figured I'd add to your comment before somebody inevitably tried to be an asshole and prove you wrong.

rolled 97 = 97

>>12707983
Long term goal dude

>>12707983

Some are better than none, Frownyface.

>>12707983

>implying Sandwich is a loli and not a proper dorf woman

>>12707983
Where exactly did I say "successfully"?

Just because she's going to try doesn't mean that she's going to succeed, at least not without her hypothetical player putting in immense amounts of work and competent role-playing to do it.

The thing about being a paladin, however, is that you do what's right, even if it's so difficult as to seem impossible. And by the fact of her own existence, along with her time with Drisryna and Alaric, Sandwich knows that not all drow are beyond redemption.

>>12707957
Uhhh...those first two are actually stock-standard /tg/ waifufaggotry. Sandvich gets a pass for being the original and actually being an interesting character. And if even you can't make a case for the last one, then that says a lot.

>>12708111

>It's female so it's waifubait.

>>12708202
Sadly, that's what some folks think everytime someone comes up with a female character of any kind around here. Doesn't matter if 19 out of 20 times it's not true, they still persist in thinking it is.

>>12708111
The fact that we can fetishize literally anything female does not automatically mean that all female characters are nothing more than fetish objects.

It just means that a significant percentage of us are lonely male nerds.

>>12708111

As for Violet in particular, well, according to the first thread she appeared in...

>Her mother was a sometime diplomat, alchemist and herbalist who had set up shop in halfling lands to cultivate and research the properties of several strains of tuber and mushroom. She was not cold or abusive, but very caught up in her work, and had a fondness for courtly elven manners, that could often make her distant.

>Growing up without elven peers, Violet kept company almost exclusively with boisterous groups of halfling children, sharing their interests and games. The close-knit and exuberant culture of village life drew her in, adopting her in all but name. Violet's mother made sure that the girl was educated according to elven standards, but largely left the child to her own devices. She believed in cultivating independence, and knew in her heart that an isolated childhood would have been cruel.

>Violet has grown up respectful of her mother and her pursuits, but has come to embrace halfling culture and habits. As an adolescent she chose to live among them, turning her magical talents toward healing and agriculture. She is optimistic, cheerful, and oftentimes playful, but tends to discount her own appearance in a way that is both bookish and tomboyish. She has always been apart from the courtship and romance which is such a large part of halfling adolescence and young adulthood, and so tends to keep any such feelings well hidden. She can become a well-meaning but meddling matchmaker, given any excuse.

>While she does enjoy travel and learning, her upbringing has not made her a natural adventurer. She prefers not to stray away from settled, village life without good reason, and does not excel at physical combat. Yet she is dutiful and brave enough to use her abilities to help those in need.

I'll see what I can do with this.

>>12708220

And here's the danger: Feeling so paranoid that you think you have to tweak such a concept until you are secure that there is no possible way anyone could look at it and go "MAI WAIFU".

Which leads to a horribly narrow definition of what female characters are allowed to be, and disallowing quite a wide variety of other options.

I think they're fine as is to start. It's how it's developed that is going to make the difference. Feeling you HAVE to inject tragedy to buy srs cred is the same mistake Joss Whedon has fallen into over and over and over, which is something I hate: the notion that there are certain rules about what you HAVE to have to make a story good. Or rather, overly specific and wrongheaded rules.

>>12708304
Well, for starters, I think she and Professor Dwarf are likely to end up together. They're probably both about the same age, both about the same level of maturity, they're both academics, neither of them really quite thinks of themselves as a member of their adoptive race, and they're likely to be shoved together by the other three party members in the hopes that it would distract Violet and the Prof from their well-intentioned but annoying meddling.

>>12708321
finally, someone gets it.

We're not making the Long Eared Irregulars to be waifu material. We're making them to be playable characters if someone wishes to do so. We don't give a shit what others think we're -trying- to do with them, or -want- us to do with them, because we know what we -are- doing with them, and that's the important part.

>>12708353
I don't know- because of the teacher/pupil dynamic, even if they are of the same age, Proffessor dorf will still be looking her as primarily someone to be nurtured

>>12708374
I was kind of hoping to pair Keke and Violet together, playing off the protective older sister vibe

>>12708353
> I think she and Professor Dwarf are likely to end up together.
I disagree. I like keeping this strictly as friends and comrades (or research materials).

>They're probably both about the same age
I picture the Professor as significantly older than all of them, except maybe Goldentusk. In age, I imagine them with the Prof as the oldest, then Goldentusk, Sandwich, Violet, and Keekee.

> neither of them really quite thinks of themselves as a member of their adoptive race
I don't quite get this idea that the Professor is unhappy with his role amongst his elven peers. There's no need to try and make him more "dwarf-y" except as humor by Sandwich. The Prof is old and set in his elven ways; he just has to come to accept that those ways aren't right for the rest of the Irregulars, and to see them as more than just research subjects.

>>12708304
I expect that both Sandwich and Gal'adruh, while openly disdainful of how sheltered and soft Violet seems to be, are also secretly envious of the fact that she can brew better ale than either of them. For that matter, she might be the only one who knows how to make actual beer, since she's the most likely of those three to have been exposed to hops.

She's also the member of the party the others turn to for advice on socializing outside of combat and taverns. She may not be very good at that stuff herself, at least when she overthinks it and destroys her own confidence, but she's the only one of the party who would have experience with something resembling high society, and the only one likely to openly care about any of the stereotypically "feminine" arts. Gal'adruh has plenty of experience with social stuff, but since almost all of it is within orc society the specific details aren't really applicable to an urban setting. Sandwich was working class before her paladinhood and just hasn't been a paladin long enough to have figured out where she fits into the outside world, much less all of the cultural details; she also might well be the youngest member of the party. Keekee starts as feral, more or less. Professor Dwarf is an uptight British gentleman elfaboo wizard, so the instant he has to improvise in a social context he falls apart.

>>12708202
I was just refuting his false assertion that the descriptions given were somehow adverse to waifufaggotry.

>>12708220
19 out of 20 times it IS true. That's why people have the prejudice in the first place.

>>12708321
>>12708298
It's not about the characters. It's about how they're used and the people behind them.

I mean, the other three are just gimmick-swapped versions of Sandvich.

>>12708476
So Violet's kinda the Team Mom then, huh? Nice.

>>12708418
Shhh, don't say that out loud!

Was a god ever settled for Violet? The last thread someone mentioned Yondalla. The first thread, someone mentioned someone else.

Just figure, if she's a cleric, that would be a good detail to nail down.

IIRC, Goldentusk's player said Kord was the god of orcs in their campaign. Maybe that could be kept as a neat cultural detail. The orces in these stories revere Kord as oen of THEIR gods, and that humans and others later stole him.

There's a lot to be said for Violet and Professor Dorf serving as the face of the party in most areas. I would suggest the paladin most of the time, but she's going to have some baggage coming her way because of her appearance.

I'm assuming this "soft" setting we're talking about has drow as known as "mostly evil but not universally so" so that they're not a Kill-On-Sight race in most areas?

(considering we're running with neutral or even good orc tribes in the area, can't be too big a break from the norm)

rolled 98 = 98

>>12708541
>>12708541
I believe we were going with Cyrrollalee, the halfling deity of friendship, trust, and home, as Violets God

>>12708456
I think it depends a lot on the age issue.

I personally see the order as Gal'adruh as the oldest, then the Professor, then Violet, then Sandwich; Keekee is either between Gal'adruh and the Professor or between Violet and Sandwich, and seems younger than she is because of her non-existent education.

The Professor's problem is that he's trying too hard. He's made himself elf-y to the point that most actual elves who meet him find him kind of ridiculous, and he's more hung up about the fact that biologically he's not an elf than any of the elves he works with would be if he'd just shut up about it.

Once he realizes that it's possible for him to acknowledge that he's a dwarf without it making him less of an elf, he'll be a lot more comfortable in his own skin, but until then he secretly isn't quite sure what he is and hides it under his mustachioed exterior.

Where he and Violet are concerned, I saw it as more that he found somebody who actually could respond intelligently to him when tried to have a technical conversation, and started bonding with her because of that. It's not really a teacher-student relationship so much as it is an older student sharing his knowledge with a younger student and her teaching him in return.

>>12708573
Seems more like that, while most races have a "preferred" or "common" alignment, by no means are they all locked to said alignment just because they are that race. So while, say, most drow are lawful evil, or most gnomes are neutral good, that doesn't mean they're all that way.

>>12708608

About Prof trying to hard to be elfy...

Maybe he got started on some of his ventures much later in life than he should have because he dawdled around too much, like an elf with a much longer lifespan?

rolled 6 = 6

Seeing as elves and dwarfs have comparable lifespans, that wouldn't really be a problem
Why not an incident during his youth where, he realizes, despite being brought up as an elf, he is a dwarf
Maybe rejected by a girl he had set his sights on?

Sandy - My Waifu

A whore who can drink ale with me. Fuck yea

>>12708750
>implying you wouldn't get a hammer to the gubbins for calling her a whore

>>12708683
The fact that the finest elvish wine tastes like water to him, at least as far as side effects? The fact that compared to all his peers he's short, slow and clumsy? The fact that he doesn't have the same innate magical talent they did and had to fight for every scrap of power he could get?

He doesn't necessarily realize it or think about it much, but I bet he has a massive inferiority complex compared to his peers, which he's made even worse by trying to force himself to conform to elvish standards in spite of physically being a dwarf, rather than adapting elvish standards to fit what he is.

rolled 96 = 96

I'm going to bed
This thread had better be here when I wake up

>>12708804
She wouldn't soil her hammer with such an unsavory task.

That's what steel-toed boots are for.

>>12708879
debating on archiving it, but archiving two threads about the same topic (even if one is a continuation of the other) might be frowned upon, I dunno yet.

>>12707173

That's actually a good observation:

Between the first two, Sandwich is younger, less experienced, but is much more disciplined, organized, and probably better prepared with socialization in the "civilized" world. Gal'adruh is wilder, more impetuous and driven by her passions, but she's also more experienced and has been through a shitload of drama.

I like the idea of them butting heads over some things but also teaching each other as well. Sandwich knows how to get by in society and how the "civilized" person thinks. Gal'adruh knows what it is to create, raise, and lose family. All that and they both are possessed of common virtue, they just go about it in different ways.

I really like the idea of this strange friendship.

Contemplating writefaggotry of Sandvich meeting Drizz't.

And I've read Drizz't books, he isn't all that emo.

>>12708976
that can't end well.

rolled 49 = 49

>>12708976
Do it faggot!

>>12708976

They both get drunk, Driz'zt moreso because of Sandwich's upbringing, and Do'urden drunkenly confesses all of his irritation with being an exotic novelty and what he really thinks of some of his "fans".

"I TELLING,,,NO,,,,,TELL YOU. *hic* IF I WERES A GOBLIN NO ONE WOULD GIVE A DAMN.. DOESN'T THINK...DON'T THINK I DON"T HEAR WHAT EVERY HUMAN GIRL I'VE SAVED IS WHISPERIN' ABOUT! 'I WONDER IF HIS OTHER SWORD'S BLACK TOO!' WELL I TELLS YOU IT'S NONEOFYER BUSINESS! LIKE THEY SEE BLACK SKIN AND SUDDENLY YER THE VILLAGE HORSE! AM I RIGHT?"

>>12708958

I'd still recommend against it.

I mean there is writefaggotry due tomorrow, isn't there?

Copy-paste what discussion here has been worthwhile and maybe post it there?

rolled 45 = 45

you guys can keep the thread going till tomorrow probably

>>12709155
we're trying.

>>12708976
You guys need help.

>>12709468

So do you.

>>12709468
>>12709472
and I am here to help!

or at least.. you know. immoral support.

>>12709870
>immoral support
Sorry sir. The gentlemen here seem quite adamant that this is neither fetish nor waifu related.

>>12709870

Elves.
Elves Everywhere.

Quick question: Does Sandwich use a sword or a hammer? All the art I've seen portrays her as a sword, but I'm having to untrain my mind from thinking "dorf = hammer/axe".

One thing on the whole "one of the has to die for drama" thing, and along the lines of them being PCs:

They could die and be raised in the same story. And just because they come back doesn't mean it won't be a rough experience for them.

The one that stands out as probably having a harder time with it is probably Gal'adruh. She's got a dead husband she could be reunited with, but she's also got at least one kid in harm's way if that elf/orc war breaks out. WAT DO DEAD CHICK?

Considering that her parents were killed by elven racists/nationalists, it would probably be fitting to have then crop up in her life again. After all, they would certainly want "that filthy orc fucker" dead.

>>12711470
there no need for the one must die bullshit, it's a cheap trick used by bad GM's/writers when they can't keep people interested otherwise

and Sandy uses a sword because her father was disappointed in her inability to swing an axe/hammer as big as her around like he did imo

>>12711470
Yeah, Sandwich was more attractive when younger too. Also axe would be nice.

If any were to die, Violet seems the most boring, since she was only created with the soul purpose of filling out the elf group. Also she's just hobbit bait. Also if the halflings are more hobbit like, that can only mean it has an edition! First edition D&D! One will have to give her life in a Gary Gygaxian trap.

>>12711518

>One will have to give her life in a Gary Gygaxian trap.

No Diabolus Ex Machina plz!

You know, that actually is a good question on the types of halflings involved.

Because nice shoes are going to be a rarity for Violet growing up in one case.

Not really meant to be taken seriously because it would fuck up traditional party dynamics, but...

What would happen if all five of them take Leadership at the same time?

>>12711550
The same thing that happens whenever all the members of any adventuring party takes Leadership. Complete and utter chaos. You have doubled the number of people in the party which exponentially increases the number of interpersonal relationships which leads to chaos.

That is a silly question.
We have already established that, as far as combat goes, Sandvich is the Leader. Gal'adruh is the plot hook. Violet is the wimp. Keekee is the crazy. Professer Dwarf is the 'observation-only' kind of guy,, not that he isn't a good fighter/mage.

So it's decided. Violet will be the one to die.

only if necessary, only if necessary.
Remember, the point of killing off someone was so that we would have the excuse to see Prof. Dwarf go all DWARF BERSERKER-SORCERER on their asses.

>>12711518
>Gygaxian trap

It won't work. Keekee was raised by kobolds, remember? She can probably disarm a trap just by looking at it funny.

And as far as death is concerned, I'd agree that Gal'adruh would be the one where it fits the best, because it gives the opportunity for her to see her husband again before she heads back to the living world to protect their daughter.

Or Professor Dwarf gets killed and then chooses not to be Reincarnated as an elf, finally comfortable enough in his own skin that he can accept being Raised as himself.

>>12711470
A sword. A hammer is used for creating, not for killing, or at least that's how she would think of it.

>>12712924
Then I demand writefaggotry of Prof. and Sandwich bonding as Sandwich is repairing armor with her smithing hammer.

>>12712713
No. It's decided that you will die. Watch out for cars.

>>12712901
>>Or Professor Dwarf gets killed and then chooses not to be Reincarnated as an elf, finally comfortable enough in his own skin that he can accept being Raised as himself.

Grungni's gonna crush your face.

what IS it with you guys and wanting one/all of them to die?

>>12712924
>>12712931
I like this idea.

>>12712954
It's been suggested in a previous thread as yet another sceurity measure to establish that this whole thing is not waifu bullshit. I find it rather pointless, but if it really must happen then I suppose Goldentusk would be the best suited for the reasons mentioned before.

>>12713103
if it's bullshit, why give them ideas on who should be killed?

It's just some ol' bullshit. You don't need to kell someone to make something serious and/or dramatic, especially if that someone is a PC, unless you are a dickweed DM who hates his players.

>>12709155
Yay, it's still here!

So basically: either none of them die, or, listening to all the suggestions here, all of them should die
I'm in the none of them need to die camp

>>12713455
I think the "one/all should die" keeps coming up because of one guy, probably the kind who thinks intentionally-made player deaths add "drama" and "depth" to campaigns rather than just pissing off players

>>12713129
>>12713103
>>12712901
>>12712713
Holy shit guys, stop getting hung up on the death thing. Waifuness is to be avoided.

Thus far we have a rough backstory, a possible chronology for meeting, a plotline, a BBEG, the beginnings of individual character arcs, and possible relationships.

Next topic: Favored weapons and FIGHTAN STYLES.

Gal'adruh: I could see her with a club type weapon, like the kind of enormous spiked clubs you see from japanese influence. She would be all quiet and on the defensive/protective normally, but would be deceptively quick.
Keekee: I almost want to go with claws and teeth for this girl. Probably a better idea to go with strangling with ropes, backstabbing, and luring into traps, while going into feral-mode when fighting one on one, maybe being all springy and jumpy like.
Violet: I find a hard time imagining Violet fighting. I would say she would have a sword and shield at Gal'Adruh's insistence, while she is being trained over the days of travel by Sandwich. A definate neophyte, but handy with a dirk.
Sandwich: Looted/reclaimed elven court blade and dwarf-forged steel shield. Fights like a pally fights, but with extra finesse and generally leads the group and forges the battleplan.
Prof. Dwarf: What kind of weapon would an elfen mage use? We need to make sure that Sandwich foists a dwarven axe on him for various reasons, especially so we can see him eventually go BERSERKER DWARVEN RAGE when he gets srs.

It looks like everyones' weapon experience was never taught, but just learned through life experiences. Well, except for Sandwich maybe.

Need input: Did Prof. Dwarf get professional elvish combat training? And when he went adventuring in his youth, how did he fight? Was he the eader, or a supporter, or a tagalong, or a loner?

>>12713474
sounds like DCU/Marvel exec.

>>12713553
Punchdaggers. Keekee would seriously ROCK with some punchdaggers.

original thread
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/12602546/

Last thread
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/12690699/

>>12713627
so when do we archive this thread?

>>12713553
Violet would be an artificer of sorts. Potions, paralytics, poisons, smoke bombs, grease, molotov cocktails, and anything else an herbalist mage can come up with. Also, spells manipulating plant life. And if you really, really piss her off, well, then she breaks out Harm.

>>12713586
Seconded. Also, acrobatics are definitely likely; elven agility plus kobold tunnels means that her preferred fighting style is going to involve using walls, the ceiling and other terrain features to attack from unexpected directions. If you've seen Samurai Champloo, she'll probably look a lot like Mugen when she fights, except with punch-daggers instead of a sword.

>>12713553
Goldentusk actually uses an elven court blade, with additional orcish fetishes attached to the hilt. Check the previous threads.

>>12713553

Doesn't Goldentusk weild a modified elven curved blade? Like it was all that was left of her original family, and only the blade part remains, the hilt and everything else modified with a orc-designed hilt or such.

Makes me wonder what sort of weapons could be built out of a decustructed elven blade.

>>12713586

THISTHISTHISTHISTHIS

>>12706796
Fixed.

Semi-fixed...

... Except for top-right, she cannot be salvaged in her currently illustrated state.

>>12713553
In the first thread it was suggested that Gal'adruh owns an elven court blade with an orcy handle. They replaced it like her tusks. I think there were several suggestions regarding making her more DEX based instead of STR, and with some bardic traits.
Sandwich is just a paladin with sword and board. Any sword and any board would work fine.
Tordek Grimbeard's dual wields wands.
Violet was initially suggested as part ranger. Though I think she would never get around to actually fighting close combat. It would make sense if she learned some magic spells from the prof.
KeeKee's pretty much as you said a trapster rogue. So likely daggers and knives all around and maybe some proficiencies in throwing (daggers and spears alike).

>>12713553
Prof. Dwarf dual-wields wands. Or alternatively, has a scepter-looking thing that's actually a wand and orb attached to each other. His spellbook is in his monocle.

He doesn't much like fire spells, because they have a tendency to set his mustache wax on fire. And he's rather protective of his epic facial hair.

Thinking about it, Keekee should probably be absolutely pragmatic(and crazy) in combat. Daggers, dropping daggers for fallback punch daggers, daggers again when she loses those, garrote a bit, rope, improvising with the environment to form a qucik pulley system....

>>12713681
Howabout some event where hey are fighting and KeeKee goes back and forth from stealing and fighting.

Hey, jobold mythology is all 'DRAGONS IS ALMIGHTY', so when the party actually faces a dragon, or maybe at least a minor wyrm...

What do, KeeKee?

>>12713697
"Bu... but... dragon has manymany shiny things for Keekee to steal... but... is DRAGON... not good steal from mighty dragon... oh no..."

Then Keekee gets so confused and frustrated she starts crying, Violet runs to see what the problem is... cue d'awww moment.

>>12713740
And then they start making out, and KeeKee is just so dirty that she simply MUST have a bath, and everyone has to join in to assist her.

And then orgy.

>>12713774
NO.

Keekee is innocent, not pervy. This is not waifu thread.

>>12713740
Figure it gets a lot simpler when the dragon starts trying to kill the party. "Protect the tribe!" is going to be pretty damn deeply ingrained into Keekee's psyche.

Also, just thought of a reason why Keekee left the kobold tunnels: to look for an answer as to why she seems to be outliving everyone. I mean, kobold lifespans are incredibly short; figure that Keekee might well have outlived two or three generations without really aging at all. That's going to feel kind of weird, and neither she nor the kobolds will quite get what's going on.

If you want to make it even more fun, Keekee was actually looking for a dragon to ask about that, because who else would a kobold think to ask about such things besides a dragon. Cue a very confused dragon trying to figure out why this dirty, ragged elf is talking at it in broken draconic (or whatever language kobolds use).

>>12713774
No. BAD anon.
We fa/tg/uys think with our brains, not our [spoiler]heads.[/spoiler]

We need a writefag to create a supper-time scene on the road. You know, when Violet is getting lectured at by Prof. Dwarf, Gal'Adruh is getting her cook on, and Sandwich is dealing with a KeeKee infestation.

>>12713822
Why would she speak broken dragonic? I thought KeeKee was fluent in her native tongue (as far as dragonic is native to her being accidentally kidnapped).

>>12713822
Awesome backstory fluff!
And on that note, we already have Violet trying to keep under control/befriend KeeKee, so I fully expect that the party will get interested when keeKee starts spouting koboldy DRAGON MYTHS.

Which will get Prof. Dwarf all intrigued as he starts to tear apart her stories like an engineer ruins a good game of D&D.

>>12713851
Because kobolds are puny, fallen creatures who only have an oral or painted history?

>>12713822
I just pictured Gal'darah and Sandwich fighting a dragon, with Violet and Professor standing back spellcasting, while Keekee is bouncing all over both them and the dragon, daggers sheathed, shrieking and flailing like a little kid and screaming for them all to stop hurting each other.

>>12713851
Because that's what the kobold dialect would sound like to a dragon?

Think like how Americans would stereotype an Appalachian accent, or British would stereotype a Cockney accent, or Canadians would stereotype a Newfie accent. Sure, the kobolds are speaking Draconic, but to an actual dragon they sound like uneducated hillbillies.

>>12713890
so kobolds speak draconic with the equivalent of a redneck drawl?

>>12713886
To make it more fun, at least half of the kobold DRAGON STOREEZ are based in 100% truth, and it's just that they've been obscured by the sort of 10,000 year long game of telephone that happens when you have an oral history and a high death rate, plus relatively few interactions with actual dragons to affect the stories.

Keekee should also be a pretty damn good storyteller, as far as technique goes; even if you think the content is utterly stupid, she can still get you to sit there and listen. This has ramifications for her possible future career as a kobold revolutionary, campaigning for greater rights and a kobold homeland that isn't just "a place nobody else wants because of how worthless it is".

Since violet i a cleric, wouldn't it make sense to give her a staff and keep her mostly to healing spells?
I like the idea of giving her articifer stuff too, though

>>12713977
well, the healing/staff thing is kinda obviously part of it - the artificer/alchemist/etc. part was kinda a nod to her absentee parent's herbalism, which she probably picked up at least some of along the way.

>>12713913
Yep. Only even worse, because so few of them survive into maturity. Koboldish Draconic sounds like something little kids would use because to a large extent it IS something little kids use. Storytelling, and the rules applied to it, are the only reason Koboldic hasn't degenerated further.

Kobold storytelling, by the by, probably interweaves with kobold rap. Not that they'd call it that, or realize what you're doing, but there aren't many other appropriate names for what you get when you combine beatboxing with a spoken/sung poem meant either to tell a story or describe the ways in which you're awesome.

>>12713890
You bring up a good point, I can see how her accent could be argued to be 'broken', even when she's fluent in draconic.

That brings me to another thought, at about what age were each of the girls adopted by their adoptive races? For Sandwich, Gal'ahdruh and Violet it's easily argued "from birth", but KeeKee had to be about 6 years old or there abouts to be playing hide and seek outside and getting kidnapped accidentally. Any further ideas with this?

>>12714050
Sandwich is the only "from birth" one... The others could be argued as being around Keekee's age when "adopted", just not necessarily at the same time.

>>12714107
I think the Professor was raised from birth too
It would make more sense

>>12714107

I think Gal was stated as being in "shell shock" when she was found. She was taken in as a thrall after that, so she must have had a bit of age on her.

>>12714132

?!

>>12714050
Sandwich was raised by dwarves from infancy, so she's never known anything else; since she's a drow, she has the worst clash between her adoptive culture and biological culture of any of the Irregulars.

Gal'adruh was found by orcs as a teenager (chronologically; maturity-wise she was probably the equivalent of a human 7 or 8 year old), so she probably has a few vague memories of her "first life".

Violet was raised amongst halflings for pretty much her entire life, but has slightly more connection with her elvish heritage because her mom was still there, albeit as a distant figure.

Keekee was probably a toddler or thereabouts, old enough that she could move around on her own but young enough that she doesn't have even the faintest memories of being raised as an elf. Unlike Gal'adruh or Sandwich, however, she might have some surviving close relatives.

Professor Dwarf (have we actually agreed on a name for him yet?) was found as an infant, much like Sandwich, and probably under similar circumstances to her or Gal'adruh. He probably has no living relatives among the dwarves, not close ones anyway. He probably has the most identity issues of any of the Irregulars, although both Violet and Sandwich are going to be close behind him (albeit for different reasons). I also think he should come off as much older than he actually is, because the older he actually is the less he fits into the party as a fellow member.

>>12714107
That is why I said the first three could easily be argued to have been adopted from birth, but for KeeKee that's impossible.

>>12714129
This I had forgotten, thanks for reminding me.

>>12713553
for Sandwich how about something like this.

Can Keekee eventually upgrae to crossbrow?
I know fightan daggers are really her stye- but Crossbows are just classic rogue

>>12714217
Continuing with the Professor thing, I keep harping on the age issue because right now he seems too divorced from the rest of the party. The teacher-student dynamic works if it's just two people, but when one PC is the teacher and the rest of the party are the students then it sets up a fundamental divide between one player and all of the rest in terms of how they interact with each other. It may make for a decent story, depending on how you tell it, but not for enjoyable roleplaying.

Making him roughly the same age as the rest, on the other hand, lets him keep some of the teacher aspect; he is, after all, a professor, or at least he will be once he finishes his doctoral thesis, and he behaves as if he's one or two age categories older than he really is. At the same time, he's less mature than practically all of the other party members in varying ways, and if he's about the same age as the rest of them then it's more likely he can eventually be coaxed into accepting that he can learn more from them than just what he needs for his research. You've still got as much potential to tell a good story as with Old Professor, but the roleplaying dynamics are much better.

>>12714303
actually, I kinda pictured Professor as more akin to an NPC/DMPC, with just the girls as PC's.

>>12714319
Hence my problem with it. If we don't want DMPCs in our own games, then why would we want them here? Better to make him into an actual PC instead.

>>12714303
I really don't see a problem with the Professor being significantly older than the rest of the group. It facilitates his role and keeps "hurpdurp waifu / harem" possibilities to a minimum. Goldentusk had a family and is a widow, but that isn't going to limit her roleplaying opportunities. Just because Gandalf was older than the rest didn't mean he was excluded from the Fellowship.

> if he's about the same age as the rest of them then it's more likely he can eventually be coaxed into accepting that he can learn more from them than just what he needs for his research.
The whole "student teaches the teacher" idea isn't limited by age, and if anything, is more powerful when it happens to an older teacher who is set in his ways.

>>12714303
I picture him as a character that only acts as a mentor because of his selfish ideas, with varying degrees of success. Story-wise him being older than all the girls (who should all vary greatly in human years, it's not like elves being adopted by other races is a regular occurrence) would allow for some good stuff when he finally comes to terms with himself (late, late in his life). Though he could be about the same age as Gal'ahdruh.

Other than the prof being oldest, I picture Gal'ahdruh to be the oldest of the 4 girls, having to outlive at least her husband. With Sandwich and Violet being about the same age, both having reached some stage of adulthood with KeeKee being the youngest before she leaves her adoptive race on her personal quest to ask why she outlives so many short-lived kobolds.

>>12714449
you are in my head so much with this I had to look twice to be sure I didn't actually write it.

>>12714303
Welp, first we already established that Prof. Dwarf has a name (in the last thread), and that he had already been adventuring in his youth.

Then we have the general relationships between them all.
The Prof. Dwarf is rather captivated by the group and their strangeness. Being in elf in all but blood, discovering multiple non-elves in all but blood would be like a geologist getting to travel with rock golems.
Faced with the preposterous yet inarguably real, the scientist in him demands to understand, he is driven to walk and talk with them to figure out why they are able to defy his well established reality.
I

Continued:>>12714622

Individual relationships:
KeeKee: Prof. Dwarf looks to KeeKee as an especially fascinating test subject, possibly even his ticket to a full academic doctorate. Rather than attempt to civilize, he will observe her like an anthropologist observes bushmen. (funny image, prof. dwarf watching from bushes while Keekee prepares to steal from an unobservant Sandwich.)
Violet: The protege and follower, and an apt student. As a professor, Prof. Dwarf will love how willing and able Violet is to learn and listen, although he occasionally does not realize that she is only a neophyte and not one of his peers. (here, i can see Violet getting all swirly-eyed and confus as Prof.Dwarf spouts magi-technobabble.)

continued>>12714632

Gal'adruh: Prof. Dwarf will try to civilize her, as established, but it is more of a long-running project in his mind, and a side-project at that. Otherwise he finds her to be good company, as she is quiet and matured, someone who he can speak with concerning the rest of the group, as well as talk politics and provisions with.
Sandwich: As far as he is concerned, Sandwich will constantly defy his reality by her ever unexpected reactions and actions. Having been raised to despise drow, he does not have the full-on racial grudge, but instead always treats her with less respect for the others, though never full-on hostility. He will often try to pin something on her drow-ness, before she will declare herself fully dwarfy and then retaliate with an attack concerning prof. dwarf dwarvishness. (I can see bickering between these two, especially racial, or just general annoyance. Prof. Dwarf is the one at fault, but he knows how to get on Sandwich's nerves. Sandwich herself is too iron-hearted and 'dumb' to have any real reaction to his assaults, and does not get his problem.)

I hat flood limit.

This thread keeps getting better all the time.

>>12714416
Gandalf worked as a character in the story, but you have to admit that he'd be absolutely infuriating to have as a fellow PC. Especially after he becomes Gandalf the White.

Your second point, on the other hand, is something I hadn't thought of. It would have to be handled a bit more delicately than if he were younger, of course, but it would be more powerful for that.

I'd still set a maximum age of whatever roughly corresponds to a human in their forties or early fifties, though, because that puts him in a better position to actually make use of his personal epiphany rather than just regretting he hadn't come to it sooner.

And I do think that the romance issue has to be addressed, even if it's just to state why there won't be any; completely ignoring it is just as bad as obsessing over it from a role-playing standpoint.

For the record, categorically ruling out romance between the Prof and either Gal'adruh or Keekee is easy. With the former, Gal'adruh probably intends to wait at least another decade or so before seriously considering a new relationship, and neither she nor the Professor is likely to consider the other attractive in that way. With the latter, I hope I don't have to explain why Keekee doesn't even have the concept of romance or why the Professor wouldn't be attracted to her; even after she becomes less feral, they just wouldn't work as anything other than friends.

With both Violet and Sandwich, though, there's enough possible connections to the Prof that you need to at least acknowledge they exist and decide why they wouldn't be acted on.

>>12714449
For clarification, when I say "human years" I'm talking about equivalent levels of maturity, not actual calendar years.

I'd say Sandwich is the youngest, actually. Keekee seems younger than she is because of her behavior, and because what with the lack of rigorous timekeeping among the kobolds there's no way for her to actually know just how old she is.

Sandwich, meanwhile, is still biologically and mentally in what humans would think of as her late teens or early twenties, and she led kind of a sheltered lifestyle in her childhood. While she's not an utterly naive moron, she's also had much less life experience than any of the other characters, excepting maybe the professor, and it shows.

>>12714691
I thought the professor had already gone adventuring? And that he was to be fairly old?
not old as in feeble, just old as in middle aged, like Gal'Adruh.

One thing about Gal's age:

Even having outlived her orc husband, she could still be in the equivalent of her late twenties. Her player said she was going to "live fast and hard" like her "fellow" orcs, which means she could be the same age as Sandwich and still have a lot more life experience under her belt.

I do kind of like the idea of her being older though.

Anyone else have to keep reminding themselves that Keekee is an elf and not a gnome. I know we're probabliy supposed to visualize her as the shortest of the bunch but I keep slipping into thinking of her like much MUCH shorter than she should be.

Maybe bad posture should be a given for her, considering the build of her adopters.

>>12714744
>bad posture
out of character:
I can see Violet doing some sort of druidic yoga, KeeKee tries to imitate, gets a crick in her back, falls over in pain.

You do have a point, what with kobold tunneling for kobold ize, whereas she probably gets to about twice as tall with bad posture.

>>12714744
>>12714772

I could see folks in-character mistaking her for a gnome or something because she usually stays crouched down a lot (both for the sake of reaching small spaces and because she's harder to see)... and then she leaps up and lunges at them, and then sudden ONOES WHY IS THERE ELFS ON MY FAEC

>>12714744
>>12714772
KeeKee, even with bad posture, is likely the shortest and thinnest simply because of the kobold diet being relatively limited in supply resulting in her growth being hindered.

>>12714622
>>12714632
>>12714643
Sounds good to me. I think that Violet's status is even more confused in his eyes because in some aspects of magic, she's actually considerably more knowledgeable than he is, and where his recent experience with magic has been more theoretical, hers has been more practical. Her being a divine spellcaster when he's an arcane caster throws things off even more.

I apologize in advance for the TVTropes link, but http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheStraightWillAndGrace is pretty much exactly what I see them developing into in the long run, without any detours into a romantic liaison first.

Now Sandwich, on the other hand, is likely to end up crushing pretty hard on the Prof. As a dwarf, he matches her cultural conditioning for what's attractive, but his elfiness sets off her biological standards too. This definitely wouldn't be reciprocated at first, wouldn't necessarily be reciprocated at all, and even if it were reciprocated the Prof would wait until she's mature enough to know the difference between infatuation and love, but it's also a character progression that would make enough sense to be worth considering. The romance, I mean; Sandwich developing a crush is pretty much guaranteed under the circumstances.

>>12714859
Eh, you might want to read the story about Sandwich again. Tordek Grimbeard's not someone she would be attracted to.

>>12714859
I dont know
As a dwarf, he doesn't even have a proper eard
and personality wise, he starts out a bit of snob
Probably somewhat dislikes Sandy bcause of the whole
"Elfv. Drow," rivalry

>>12714744
I agree with late twenties equivalent for Gal'adruh, or early thirties at most. A young adult, but with much more emphasis on the "adult" part than the "young" part.

>>12714807
>>12714828
Yep. She's probably insanely flexible, though, given that you're applying the elven DEX bonus to a lifetime spent moving around cramped tunnels.

Also, she probably doesn't have bad posture so much as a tendency to default to moving on all fours. And to parkour all over the place. It would be really amusing, though, if after a while spent on a better diet she regains most of what her height should have been... and ends up almost as tall as Violet, while noticeably taller than any of the other Irregulars.

>>12714894
>>12714901
It's not a mental attraction, it's a physical one. One she's poor at dealing with exactly because he's not her type where personality is concerned, at least before he mellows out, anyway; it starts more because his appearance and mannerisms confuse the hell out of the bit of her brain that judges attractiveness.

>>12714928
"DORF TRICK- CHANGE KEKE BACK!"
"Remember what we talked about Keke- use words, not violence."
"...Fine- Vial, I stop for you.
Is all stupid tricksy Dorf fault nyways- he use magic, make Keke too big for tunnels!"

I'm coming in late in this discussion but that one at the bottom left would be pretty hot if it wasn't for the teeth. The rest are all ugly as sin though.

>>12715145
Late, and rather offtopic. Bad show, old chap.

>>12715145
Be thankful that there was even moderately good drawfaggotry AT ALL.
Memory serves, one person drew, another person colored, then another person 'shopped to fix some anatomy problems.

>>12714894
Who's Tordek Grimbeard? The professor's name is Tithranidan d'Laralsyr.

threads getting kinda long, don't know if autosage, can someone archive this to suptg?

already archived, and doesn't autosage until 300, I think.

>>12715376
Tordek Grimbeard is the original name proposed in the first thread. The name you mention is the invention of one writefag. I haven't seen any elfish names really proposed for the guy. That's why most people call him "Professor Dwarf".

>>12715384
We're nearing 200-ish posts, bump limit is at 300 last time I checked.

[continued from previous]

>>12715267
And the drawfaggotry, colouring as well, was all done by one drawfag. Haven't seen any of this fixed anatomy problems shop, merely the criticism about some anatomy problems.

>>12715471
And so far only one guy's called him "Tordek Grimbeard", while others, including the resident drawfag, have went with the elven name. So majority rules, it seems, and "Tordek" he ain't.

The Irregulars just call him "Professor Dwarf" because they can't be arsed to try getting it right most of the time.

>>12715471
Tordek Grimbeard was used because that's the guy the Professor is based off. Tordek Grimbreard, dwarf who dual wields wands and was /tg/ in the fantasy representation of 4chan.

Since this is a different, albeing similar in certain ways, character he needs a different name.

>>12715532
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/12690699/
>Tithranidan Dlaralsyr
>Rather obviously, his name is not actually "Professor Dwarf", but rather some ridiculously elfy name with extraneous vowels and/or apostrophes. They just either never could, or never tried to, pronounce it properly, so they just call him "Professor" - except Keekee, who just calls him "Dwarf" because she finds it hilarious the way he gets ruffled up when she does so.

bump for epic and maybe more writefaggotry.

>>12715500
>And so far only one guy's called him "Tordek Grimbeard",
If I'm the only one, then who posted it initially that I read it from? I've only been posting in these threads since this one, had to catch up first. Explain me that.

It was the name proposed along with the character, so please do your homework before saying rubbish. As for the elven name, it was only said that he should have an elfy name but the entire topic was ignored. Then a writefag/you just threw out his own idea for his writefaggotry which has only been repeated twice. Once in a filename, once by you.

There has been zero discussion about it, so none of this "majority rules" bullshit, you can call him whatever the hell you like. These threads are for discussing this stuff, not to go around dictating to others what has been accepted and not. Okay, now move along Storyteller.

>The Irregulars just call him "Professor Dwarf" because they can't be arsed to try getting it right most of the time.
Now that is a first. People in this thread call him "Professor Dwarf". There have been suggestions that the characters just call him 'dwarf' or 'professor', but that too hasn't gotten any discussion because the discussion about his actual name never got along.

>>12715675
read the other threads throughly. One guy called him Tordek. Everyone else called him Professor, and nobody else agreed he should've been called Tordek.

Eventually, the writefaggotry and the art declared him to have the elven name, which is as close to canon as we're gonna get in this case.

See here.>>12715532 >>12715554

He's Tithranidan D'laralsyr, AKA "Professor Dwarf", not Tordek Grimbeard.

Deal With It.

>>12715750
>you can call him whatever the hell you like
No you deal with it. He hasn't got an accepted name.

>>12715778
Soon as the writefag and drawfag used it and nobody said anything against it, it became canon, just like Violet's last name - which you're not protesting, I notice. Is that why you're so insistent he be called "Tordek Grimbeard" - because you're afriad of the idea of a dwarf that's not stereotypically dwarfy?

>>12715855
People commented on Violet's last name, nobody commented at any point on the dwarf's name as I have been saying for the last three posts (coincidentally the same number you haven't been reading apparently). If I fear him to not be stereotypically dwarfy enough, why am I not protesting his entire character concept? Because I do not fear that at all.

What I'm saying, please read and comprehend it this time, is that he has no name and that you can call him whatever the heck you want. I did not at any point insist that he be named "Tordek Grimbeard", I just used that to refer to him, the very thing over which you are now throwing a shitfest.

Everybody, just chill and have a brew.

>>12715986
I get your point.

I also agree that Tordek Grimbeard would be an utterly moronic choice for this particular character, and would go with "Elftastic McLongName, but everyone just calls him Professor Dorf instead."

If they need a real name, they shorten "Tithranidan" to "Dan". Nobody uses his real last name.

>>12716103
...an acceptable compromise.

Anyone given the color job yet to Prof's sketch that got posted in the previous thread?

>>12716127
No, not yet.

>>12716103
I too think Tordek Grimbeard's a moronic choice for cannon name for the character as it is. And I agree with the post that said he should have an elfy name, since that's the character, an elf. I however do not think we should just randomly dictate to others that his name is X and X alone with no discussion. Heck, the lack of any discussion about what his name should be just points out, in my opinion, that he doesn't really need a set name, so call him whatever you like in any writefaggotry you do. That would even allow for someone crazy to make this elaborate name with some suitable meaning in some fantasy elfish script.

>Nobody uses his real last name.
Same goes for Violet in these threads. The only reason she got a last name is because someone voiced a concern, someone else gave a suggestion and there was a hint of agreement about it. Sandy doesn't have a last name either (it's her clan name), Goldentusk only has a last name because it's an actual player character (and oh god that first name has had a thousand forms in these threads).

>>12716127
I think Slow Drawfag will colour it when she's done sketching.

>>12716286
I look forward to seeing the Prof. colorized, then.

A bump, hope this thread's still here tomorrow. It's still got 90 posts before the bump limit.

The touches of moeblobbery/waifufaggotry are bad enough; do we really need to add shipping to the list?

We're just a hop, skip, and a jump away from turning this into a fapfiction production.

>>12716976
>moe
>waifu
>shipping

...you sure you're looking at the right thread? Cuz I'm not seeing anyone following that route.

>>12717024

There's been a few.

But there has been even more rejecting it.

Hell, the only one that could probably even think of romance as they are now is probably Violet, and that's it.

We have fleshed out these characters too much to have a lesbian orgy or harem in here.

I get the feeling that this thread is gonna die before bump. BRB when i figure out how to suptg archive.

>>12717190
it's already archived.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/12706796/

Back. there we go. looks like someone did it already.

Imaa gonna summarize now:

Origins: Check
Backgrounds: check
Names: check
Chronology: Needs writefaggotry
Skills/Talents: Check, need mechanics though.
Roles: Check
Plot: Maybe, we got Gal'Adruh's quest at least.
BBEG: Check, though not written in yet.
Personalities/Quirks: Check

Still missing some info on their personal beliefs and skill levels, also no idea on growth. There was some talk as to character arcs, but more as a distant future arrangement.

Also, NO KILLING OFF CHARACTERS. Samefag kept saying that was needed to make it all 'mature' and 'anti-waifu' but instead just convinced us he was a troll.

Miss anything?

>those ashiettl

>>12717319

>Skills/Talents: Check, need mechanics though.

I'd keep it "rules-soft".

Setting-soft as well. Tying it into 3rd/4th/PF/2E/whatever edition might be too restricting. And being able to pull deity and cultural details from multiple settings(Eilistraee from FR, the standard Greyhawk gods, etc) could be a boon.

On mechanics, I'd rather they were done as interpretations of whatever was written for them, rather than the mechanics guiding what is written.

...
Is it wrong that I want to see Violet and Keekee together?

>>12717319
The BBEG need a bit of fleshing-out, I think. Right now, all we know is he's "the Laughing Man", a human bard who was raised by gnolls, and took on some of their cunning and bloodlust, and what meagre writefagging's been done of him paints him as sort of a D&D version of the Joker, with a touch of Xanatos thrown in.

What's his story... is he targeting the Irregulars specifically over long-term, or are they just his flavor-of-the-month playtoys?

>>12718262
depends on context of "together". if you mean in a "mother/child protective caretaker" way, no, it's not wrong. If you mean "hot licky-style lezbo makeouts" sort of way, then yes, it's wrong.

>>12718262
platonic only, plz.
Remember, Violet is racial-identity-confus and KeeKee is sexually innocent/naive. Violet just so happens to be nice to KeeKee and KeeKee likes her for it, eventually growing on her, perhaps as a little-little sister.

>the roopter

>>12718305
"That laugh... that horrible, cackling laugh... like he found the suffering of others to be amusing, and an agonized death a grand joke..."

>>12718456
>>12718646

Agreed.

That's why I'm support lez only for Sandwich and Gal'adruh.

I'm KIDDING. I'm only doing that after the good writefaggotry has already happened.

>>12718305
>>12718667
I would like The laughing man to be a bit of a reoccuring guy, early on, like he's just a wacky NPC, when he's really scoping the group out and trying to see if he can use them to further his goals

>>12718305

IIRC, Sandwich unknowingly killed his caretakers for being slave-raidin' sumbitches. She found him all shell shocked like Gal'adruh was and left him in the care of some human orphanage.

At least I think that was the idea being tossed around.

>>12718667

THIS TOO.

I kind of see him as being seen a nobody for a long time. Then as a persistant nuisance. And then the nightmarish shit starts to happen,

And considering what Sandwich unwittingly did to him, he might just decide to hit them where it hurts:

Say hello to that elf/orc war you were trying to prevent.

Pity someone riled up those Zarus cultists until they went into a kobold lynching frenzy.

Oops, didn't mean to poison all of those halfling village wells.

Sure is a shame someone encouraged those drow to invade the dwarf stronghold. Hope the beardos weren't precious to anyone...

>>12718764
Beware the Silly Ones
From Nobody to Nightmare
Man Behind The Curtain

...Laughing Man has a few tropes under his belt... but in this case, I think that only adds to his menace, since nobody'll see it coming, because nobody'll believe it could really be him.

>>12718305
>>12718667
I'd like to see him become a member of local fools guild while doing a stint as quest giver as he manipulates his way deeper and deeper

>>12718305
>>12718667
>>12718744
>>12718764
>>12718913

Someone must draw him. MUST.

>>12719209
might be tricky to do so without making him seem TOO much like the Joker, even if he does borrow a lot from the guy personality and flavor-wise...

>>12719361

Personally I'm worried about him stepping on Kefka's toes...

>>12719941
I got that feeling too

>>12718913
mfw people quote tropes from TVTropes just for the sake of quoting them

>>12719941
As this isn't Final Fantasy, I doubt that'll be much of a concern.

>>12720251
But this IS Batman? wat?

>>12720279
No, but I couldn't think of a better analogy for Laughing Man's persona than "Joker".

>>12718744
>>12718764
Copypastin' from last thread
>When I first saw gnoll-raised human bard I thought he would be more like a comic foil that the party would occasionally encounter, a crazy-ass bard with an occasionally awesome sense of humor that they would tolerate for a while before he wandered off again.

>But I like what /tg/ has done to the guy.

>I propose he could be BOTH.
Early on he would be acting just silly and annoying while getting close to watch them. Keekee's traps would get everytime he would try something and he would just act kookier to get himself excused. He would crop up occaisionally as just another comic reliefe and expy character, kiindof like some favored NPC, but in reality he would be collecting information and then using his abilities and contacts to arrange 'incidents' in their path over and over, until they actually get one of his major puppets (the Skeleton King?) and reveal himself as the strange BBEG 'The Laughing Man' that some mobsters they had beaten up before had mentioned.

>>12720460
Derp, forgot to greentext the last bit.

>>12720372
Dude, what? He wasn't talking about literally stepping on Kefka's toes.

>>12720460
Nice.

>>12720460
The real reason why he's fucking with them is solely because he thinks it's funny as hell. For that matter, he finds the Irregulars amusing simply by existing.

And he lets them in on his evil plot because a joke is worthless without an audience. The "joke" in question is causing them to inadvertently ruin their lives in the process of stopping him, or at the very least be unable to prevent something else from killing those they care about because they were busy stopping him. The punchline is the looks on their faces when they figure it out.

Hey, weekend writefag here. Story turned out to be longer than expected. Fuck. Will post as soon as done, hopefully tomorrow, most likely tuesday.

All serious, no fanservice. Can't post more because it's like 35 degrees where I'm typing right now, shitsux.

>>12720645
Of course, the fact nobody else but him will find the mass devastation and suffering hilarious is irrelevant to him. Someone's gonna laugh eventually, and who better than himself?

>>12720678
Oh, it's not irrelevant to him at all.

As far as he's concerned, the fact that nobody else gets the joke just makes it funnier. What else is comedy but a subversion of expectations, either those of the audience or those of the victim?

And what do people say about tragedy? That you can cry about it or you can laugh about it? Well, the Laughing Man made it very obvious which one he picked. It's not his fault if other people don't agree with his choice.

Should the party inevitably meet each member's adoptive family/community?

I think it was touched on in a short journal entry for Sandwich's father in one of the earlier threads.

>>12721431
more copypasta from previous thread.
>Cute, but the whole "funnyboy gnoll" is a bit cliche'd. Was thinking that, since real hyena "laughter" is actually done when they are angry or frightened (and gnolls are basically bipedal hyenas), maybe this guy could be kinda mentally off-tilt a la The Joker, and it's when he starts laughing/cackling that you know shit's about to go down hard.
>He makes these jokes but he doesn't laugh himself. He's high charismatic and they call him 'The Funny Man,' just that his minions do it in fearful whispers. They tell the party, "You don't want hear him laughing. I hate it when he laughs."

>>12724395
The worst part of his laugh is how it starts out
A low, throaty, chuckle
Almost a snicker, really
It just doesn't stop, however- it just builds and builds in pitch and fever, until he's in hysterics, arms over his sides, tears forming in his eyes, rolling on his ground and that insane highpitched cackle ringing in your ears
And then he'll stop, almost mid guffaw, and do something else, whether it be carrying on a conversation or torturing someone

>>12716562
>>12716286

Only got the linearts finished due to work. I`ll give color a shot if I can cram it in somewhere timewise.

>>12715488

Haven't yet had the time to fix the anatomy-problems the anon pointed out. Might happen, might not. Mabye I'll just give it a fresh start and draw them again if I can muster the energy.

Need to finish up some other stuff this week, too. So no guarantee when the next batch of pics might fall into your hands...

>>12726164
S'okay
you've been really really good so far

>>12726164
awesome work there Slow Drawfag!
Incredible improvement!
I love the elvish embossed in his sash.
What inspired it?

>>12725273
Oooh... creepy. I love it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb8fWUUXeKM

From B&nhammer40k's drawfag thread.

Makes me wonder if Goldentusk's hairstyle could work like the Shoanti from the Pathfinder setting:

There, everyone shaves their heads clean because it's practical and their homeland is regularly on fire. They only grow their hair out to show that they're looking for a husband or wife.

Maybe something similar, going in either direction, applies to orcs here? Goldentusk keeps to one style while she's still in mourning for her husband, while the other shows that she's moving on. Not forgetting, but moving on to another stage in her life.

Hey, is anybody here interested in playing these characters in an online game of DnD?

>>12730601
unfortunately, we have yet to stat these fine ladies.

Good luck figuring them out.

Return with stories!

>>12730601
Is wearing girls' clothes and wishing to be the little girl a requirement to play?

>>12732741
Not necessary
(A dedicated RPer is always nice though)

Hey, if anyone is interested in this game (probably going to be either 3.5 or 4E DnD) Please, send me an email

>>12729328
interesting concept.

Sandwich is a Paladin of Moradin.

She must fight with some form of hammer.

That is all.

>major stredge

indeed captcha.

>>12733507
A hammer is a tool for crafting and creating, not a destructive weapon of war. Too valuable for one raised in dwarven culture to taint with the corruption and gore of combat.

She uses an axe, or a sword in a pinch.

>>12733524

>His [Moradin's] favored weapon is the warhammer.

3.5 Player's Handbook page 107.

>>12733565
Right, warhammer. I was thinking regular blacksmithing hammers for some reason, not those. Yeah, warhammers are acceptable.

She, being a paladin of Moradin, would feasibly use a Dwarven Waraxe but would more likely use a Warhammer.

Can someone put some of this info up on 1d4chan?

>>12706796
Semi-fixed.

... fuckin' round ass heads....

Except for Arnold there.

>I seriously doubt I'll be able to finish this today

Dorman's spear shook in his hands as he shivered in the cold. The young farmhand pulled his hood further over his head to keep the near constant drizzle from his face. "Gods, when's he gettin' here?" He looked back over his shoulder. Josef still had not come, and it felt like half an hour since Brom had left his side. They knew they were supposed to keep watch in pairs. Dorman could only wonder at what was taking the stableboy so long.

His eyes went back to the road leading out of Myer's Hollow. The muddy path, framed by trees nearly bare from Autumn's touch and meagerly lit by a steel gray sky, was a miserable and worrying post.

"Nothin' to worry about...it's just been wolves...know how to deal with wolves..." He fell into his mantra once more, keeping close to the tree he had come to see as the most easily climbed.

His heart leapt when he looked back up. He was so lost in his nervous prayers that he did not immediately see the strangers when they came within sight. Four cloaked figures on horseback were slowly approaching. The young man let out a sigh of relief. They may have been strangers, but at least he wasn't alone now.

>>12735322

He let the butt of his spear rest against the ground and did his best to appear unthreatening as he rose his hand to hail them. As the figure in the front rose its hand in return, Dorman began to discern curious details about them as they drew close.

All four of the riders wore cloaks, their hoods pulled down against the light rain. Their frames were thin, two somewhat less so than the others. The one in the back seemed to actually be riding a donkey. The one in the lead was wearing steel armor that seemed to gleam even under the dreary overcast sky. He could see bits of the faces of the other three, but somehow the armored figure's face seemed cast in complete shadow. Four women, Dorman concluded, and one an obvious warrior at that. He had never seen a female warrior before. Myer's Hollow had always been rather old fashioned compared to its neighbors.

"Um...Hello..." he offered weakly, at a loss on how to greet newcomers along their road. "What brings you to Myer's Hollow?" It was as much a question of curiosity as it was asking if it was the proper thing to say in such a situation.

The armored figure answered, her face still cast in darkness. "We heard there's been trouble up this way. Figurin' ye can you some help, perhaps." Her accent was thick, her speech plain and unassuming.

>>12735333

Relief washed over Dorman's face. He may not have known who they were, but any help at all was a godsend at this point. "Trouble's right, ma'am! Gods, we could use the help. We've had people disap-" His words faltered as the other three removed their hoods.

They were certainly women, but they were obviously not humans like himself. Their long pointed ears and the angles of their faces painted them as elves. He had never seen one, but he had heard tales. But everything else about them did not match what he had heard at all.

One of them was muscular, still somewhat slender of build but far more toned than any woman Dorman had seen before. And also unlike woman he had seen before, her head was completely bare save for a long topknot of wild blond hair. Strange patterns were painted into her skin, most curiously about her right arm, where the pattern seemed incomplete, as if the rest of the pattern was somewhere else. She was dressed in furs and leather, a fine silvery blade at her side fixed upon a hilt of rough design, strange tassles and fetishes of animal hair and bone hanging from it. But stranger than all this...from her lower lips rose two thin tusks of gold. His eyes rose to meet hers, and he quickly looked away. It was hard to tell if she was angered by his staring, or if had been the natural, fierce cast of her face.

>>12735340


Beside her was a woman both far more familiar in appearance, yet somehow even more "off". She was dressed plainly, much like any common girl of the village. She was much softer in appearance than her fellow rider, and well fed it seemed. Her hair was short and curly, and a strange hue of red he had never seen before in anyone's hair. It was almost unnatural, as were the many freckles which dotted her face. From her neck hung a silver carving of an acorn. A staff of white oak was bound to her back. She seemed kinder than the other one, certainly more familiar and safe. Dorman quickly looked away as her eyes met his, as he felt his face growing flush.

The other was as different from her companions as they were from each other. Stick-thin upon her donkey, she was shorter than the rest. She certainly seemed that way, with her head and back hunched low. Her entire body was clad in leather armor, or at least leather clothing and bits of armor bound tight by numerous straps and buckles holding everything close to her form. More knives than he ever assumed anyone would need lined a number of bandoliers about her waist and torso, along with strange vials, pouches, and tools whose use he could only guess at. Another, tighter hood of soft leather lay down behind her neck, rising from her armor. Her mop of black hair was a mess, bound only in the back into two short tails at the base of her neck. Her face, her eyes, were strange somehow. More like a girl's in spirit than a young woman the other two clearly were. She noticed Dorman's attention, and smiled a friendly smile.

Dorman jerked back, his face blanched at the sight of the girl's mouth. It was lined with pointed teeth, more like those of an alligator than anything human. The blonde and the red-haired elves shared what seemed a faint, knowing smile as the armored woman rose her hand to calm the farmhand.

>>12735342

"It's alright, Keekee's nae dangerous." She pulled her hood back, revealing her reassuring smile. Dorman's eyes widened in shock as he stumbled backwards into the mud. Her face had not been cast in darkness. It had been black as night all along, framed by braided white hair. Just as he had heard tales of elves, he had heard darker stories about their fallen, demon-worshipping kin. He had only seen them in his childhood nightmares, and now there was one before him, quickly dismounting, racing to tower over him, looking down upon him with concerned red eyes...

"'Ey! Get up now. Ye'll catch yer death sittin' in the mud like tha'." Her words, her tone, they were not matching everything he expected of the sight before him.

Dorman glanced at the others for help, half wondering if they saw the drow in their midst. The red-haired woman was simply looking at him with the same concern the dark elf seemed to be showing. The one they called "Keekee" was simply staring and idly picking her nose. The blonde was smirking, and spoke with a tone that seemed half-sympathetic and half-tired condescension. Her words were precise, her accent rough. "Relax. Sandy is a dwarf. She only wants to help."

Dorman looked at her in disbelief, then back at the woman reaching down to him. He HAD seen a dwarf before. A male. He had no clue what the women looked like, but nothing he had imagined was close to this sight. For her part, despite the frightening red eyes, she seemed to show only genuine concern. His shaking hand rose to meet hers as she helped him to his feet. "Uh..." he began weakly as she scraped some of the mud from his cloak. "S-sorry...I n-never saw a..." She simply stood there, smiling faintly and patiently. He glanced at the others, desperate to know what to say. "..d-...um...before..."

>>12735368

He nearly fell again when the black-skinned woman clapped him on the shoulder cheerfully. "Dinnae worry about it! We've got important work tae see to, aye? Now what's this about yer problems?" Her voice carried, as if she were used to speaking over the other noise. It was quite jarring over the relative silence of the road and slight rainfall.

"Um..well..." The young man moped a bit, looking back and forth between the four strangers in equal parts confusion and embarassment. "We've had people going missing lately... A couple of pigs and a cow a few weeks ago, but after that, the Hilkses all disappeared..."

The dark elf looked back at her blond companion. Whatever exchange they had was silent to Dorman, but the blond one nodded knowingly.

"Sandy" turned back to the young man. "Can ye take us to yer village? Announce we're comin'?"

"Y-yes'm." Dorman stuttered as she mounted her horse. He started down the road before remembering to retrieve his spear, nodding sheepishly to the strangers, and setting off once more. His mind was racing for what to say when he got home.

Sandwich Stoutaxe's faint smile never faltered as she rode her horse close to her lighter-skinned companions. "Violet...I'm thinkin' you better handle the introductions here, aye?"

The redhead stuttered her response much like Dorman. "Um, y-yes. If you think that's best." She looked at Sandwich curiously, but the drow's face never faltered. The paladin of Moradin rode up again, to speak with Dorman further. The priestess of Cyrollalee went over what to say, silently wording things just the right way, when she noticed Gal'adruh's frown. Her tusks were more visible when she did that, Violet lamented. "What's wrong, Gal?"

>>12735470

The barbarian didn't take her eyes off Sandwich's back. "I hate when they look at her like that. She deserves better."

Violet Vanthais let out a sympathetic sigh. "Sandy knows how to deal with it, don't worry...she doesn't let it get to her."

Gal'adruh Goldentusk fixed her eyes on Violet's. "That is the problem. I wish she would get mad." She said it in that clipped way she had when it was clear she was in no mood for debate.

The priestess could only shrug and keep her peace when her friend went back to her stern glaring. Gal'adruh had her ways, Sandwich had hers. Still, Violet wondered at how Sandwich was able to bear it.

"Are we gettings there yet?" Keekee piped up from behind them.

Violet quickly answered with as much motherly patience as she could muster despite the irritation of having been asked countless times before. "Yes, almost there." Keekee seemed relieved as she began to undo the straps binding her to her saddle. She had spent most of the trip asleep in it.

The priestess looked back to their leader, trying to listen in on the quiet conversation between her and the young villager. She wondered again at just how she let it all slide off of her...

*******************

Gilgam Stoutaxe continued to stare in disbelief at the basket's contents. There was no doubt what it was. He just couldn't quite believe the situation had fallen on his shoulders of all people.

The baby began to cry. It was odd. Aside from the color of its skin, it was no different from a dwarven baby.

"Moradin's anvil" he muttered. He looked back down the tunnel. None of his clansmen were with him at the moment. They were busy clearing the bodies from the other tunnels.

"Dammit..." He frowned, staring at the mewling infant, considering his options. He knew he only had the one.

"Shh-shhhhhh..." he whispered. "Um...cooooo?" he ventured. He waggled his fingers. He tried to guess at just what he was supposed to do. The child just would not stop crying.

"Look, dammit!" he grumbled in frustration, pointing one stubby finger in her face. "You knock that off right n-"

The baby had fallen silent, her little fingers wrapped about the one he had pointed at her. A black, toothless smile widened upon her face.

>>12735613

Gilgam could only stare, dumbfounded, until Largram came running up behind him. "Ey! Gilgam! Heard ye shoutin'! What's goin..." The young miner gasped as he drew closer, and instinctively reached for his axe, his eyes alight with disgust.

"Boy." Gilgam's growl, his eyes, froze the younger dwarf in place. "You put yer hand on that axe and I'll have it off. That's a godsdamned promise."

Largram shivered. He had never heard his taskmaster speak with such a tone. Had never seen him like this. But he knew Gilgam was not one for idle threats.

The elder dwarf carefully lifted the basket and made his way down the tunnel. The younger miner called after him. He had to know. "What are you going to do with it?"

"Hell if I know." Gilgam grumbled under his breath. He knew he only had one real choice, being the man he was.

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>>12735619

>>12735619

Father Jakib listened intently as Dorman hurriedly went on. The old man, over 60 years in life, sat stooped upon his chair, his old worn clothes marking him as simply another farmer rather than the town's mayor and spiritual leader, save for the wooden carving of the bow-and-arrow symbol of Erastil hanging from his neck.

"...and she told me to run ahead, Father. Said they'd be right behind. They're an odd lookin' bunch too, but I know they're elves for sure! They gotta be! 'Cept for the black one..."

"I understand, son." He raised his hand to quiet the young man for a moment. He did well at hiding the discomfort in his voice. "And they said they're here to help?"

"Yessir!"

Jakib's fingers strayed over his holy icon. He whispered something Dorman couldn't quite make out, and rose to his feet. "I better be with the first to meet them then. Go fetch the others."

"Yessir!" Dorman turned as he answered, already running.

The priest shrank inward as soon as the boy was out of sight. He drew a deep breath and steadied his nerves. "Ol' Deadeye grant me strength..." He donned his wide-brimmed hat and stepped out.

>>12735652

A crowd was already forming in the muddied village square. The four riders were within sight as Jakib walked through the crowd, the villagers parting way for him. The priest raised his hand in greeting to them. The red-haired one was in front. He was grateful the drow had pulled her hood back up.

Still his voice cracked at the sight of them, his eyes haunted by memory. "Hail." He coughed. "I'm Jakib Morrow, the mayor here. Welcome to Myer's Hollow."

They were quite a sight, the lot of them together. The small one in the back certainly didn't look right in the head, the way she was keeping her mouth shut so tight. And the blond...he did not even know where to start. The redhead was thankfully normal enough for him to deal with easily. "Thank you, Father Morrow." Violet bowed her head gracefully and dismounted with the others. "We've come to lend what aid we can." The girl was the picture of politeness.

Jakib raised an eyebrow, finally noting the acorn hanging from the woman's neck. He was getting too old, he thought, for such a soft looking girl to spot him as a priest before he could even pick her holy icon out. He smiled, genuinely impressed. "I've a feelin' we should be thanking you, Sister...?"

>>12735722

>there might be some long breaks between posts, multitasking like crazy

Violet smiled and blushed in that easy way she had, bowing once more. "Oh...sorry...I am Violet Vanthais, humble servant of Cyrollalee." From the reddening of her pale skin, Jakib was certain of the humbleness. She gestured to her other companions, "This is Sandwich Stoutaxe, servant of Moradin."

Her gentle voice seemed to take on an authoritative tone then, one that almost seemed forced coming from her. The hooded woman, the one Jakib was certain to be the drow, bowed in turn. Jakib's world had suddenly grown much stranger. He barely caught himself before forgetting to nod in return.

"And this is Gal'adruh Goldentusk." The strange blond offered only a curt nod and continued to stare at the villagers Jakib now realized had been staring at their odd guests. Jakib knew he would need to speak with his people soon.

"And this is Keekee." Violet hurriedly concluded. The peculiar girl in the back raised her hand to wave and began to speak. "He-" was all she managed before Gal'adruh's head whipped around to shoot her a withering glare. Keekee's lips tightened again as she continued to stare wide-eyed at nothing in particular.

"Well then, welcome, all of you." Jakib wanted to hurry. He knew such strange folk coming into town in times such as this would have the people even more agitated than they were already, even if they had come to help.

>>12735755


"Come on in the chapel...it's dry in there. Sazie, Eward, see to their horses." The two youths nodded and stepped out the crowd immediately, giving the strangers wide berth as they led the steeds into one of the stables nearby. "Come on then, no sense standing in the rain..." The old priest turned to his villagers as the four elves follwed after him. "We're going to have a town meeting in two hours, I want all the family heads there. We're pulling everyone inside the village for tonight!" Some of the townsfolk murmered amongst themselves, some stared in silence at the strange elves that had come into their isolated world, and other ran to carry the news and orders to the outlying farms.

The chapel was a humble structure, within and without. It was built primarily as a sturdy shelter against storms, as most Erastilian churches were. Violet seemed to nod with some approval as she stepped in.

As he led them to the backroom he asked, "Will tea do? It's all I've got aside from hard drink at the moment." He did his best to be polite. Still his hands shook. They reminded him so much of her. Too much.

"OH yes, that will be fine!" Violet answered with genuine enthusiasm, her hands clasped together. Sandwich nodded her approval as well. "Much obliged, Father."

The old priest began tending to the pot he had brewing already. "So...what do you know already? And Miss?" He turned towards Sandwich, forcing a smile. "You can take your hood off, I know what you are. I'm a LITTLE bit more worldly than most of the folks 'round these parts."

>>12735849


The drow seemed a bit grateful as she pulled her hood back. Jakib thought he did a good job of hiding his awe at the sight of her. He knew they were dark-skinned. He just hadn't expected her to be truly black. "Thank ye, Father. We just know what rumors were being passed down the road, and what Mr. Dorman told us: People and livestock have been goin' missin'. We dinnae know much more'n that. What IS goin' on here?"

Jakib poured their drink, handing them their cups before taking his seat at the table with them. He considered them for a moment. They seemed genuine enough in their concern, even the wild woman with the false tusks. He wasn't sure about the small one. It seemed it was all she could do to keep fidgeting. And her face was turning a bit blue...

"Well....is she alright?"

Gal'adruh turned to see what he was pointing at, her eyes widening in horror before she slapped Keekee on the back of the head. The small elf gasped as her lips finally parted and she began taking in heaving breaths. "Damned fool of a girl." Gal'adruh cursed, her anger tinged with worry. "Did you forget how to breathe through your nose?"

Jakib tried not to stare at the flash of pointed teeth between each of the girl's deep gasps for air. Violet quickly spoke up, "It's alright! She was just raised by kobolds....is all..."

The old priest could only manage "Ah..." before continuing.

>>12735889

"it..it all started about three weeks back. Couple of pigs went missing. A cow two days after that. Then a farmhand went missing up at the Hilks farm."

Gal'adruh spoke up. "Were there any tracks? Was there any blood?"

Jakib shook his head. "There hasn't been much in the way of tracks. Just scratches here and there, nothing that anyone's seen before. As for blood...there was only a little bit. At first..."

The old man shivered with the memory, and took a sip of tea, trying to find his nerve. His guests remained silent, giving him time.

"A girl, little Anna Greys, vanished from the next farm over, plucked from her own house it seemed. Just a bit of blood on her bed. Then Old Vincent went missing while he was helping us search for her. We never found any trace of him. Things got quiet after that. For a few days. Then things got too quiet at the HIlks farm. Their neighbors hadn't heard from 'em in for a day, their livestock was loose...Uriah Theed went to go check on them when he noticed the smell. He ran and got me as quick as he could. We gathered as many foik as we could and went up there..."

His hands were shaking. He didn't realize how badly until he saw Sandwich reach over to steady them, gently but firmly.

>>12735972
Am I the only one who reads and enjoys this? Still, MOARS!

>>12735972

He steeled himself, a bit embarassed for having made such a display in front of strangers. "The....the farmhouse was torn to pieces inside. We didn't find but drops of blood before that, but there...it was all over the place. There wasn't anything in there that wasn't broken or scratched all to hell...like a bear had gone mad inside the place. But that wasn't done by animal. No animal I've ever seen...

The three elder girls listened in silence, rapt in grim attention. The youngest, she shivered, listening just as intently, but with the air of a child hearing a fireside ghost story. Jakib wished once more that it was just some flight of fancy.

"There wasn't any sign of the Hilkses except blood. And...and a couple of bones. They'd been chewed on, stripped clean. Erastil's sake, what could have done somethin' like that?"

Sandwich looked over to Gal'adruh silently. The barbarian took her meaning, and spoke quietly. "I need to see this place."

Jakib shook his head. "I can have someone take you up there, but there's not much left. It was all burnt to the ground." He could see the frustration on the wild woman's face. "That place was an abomination after that. It couldn't be allowed to stand. Too much happened there for that."

Sandwich asked, her voice low and respectful, "An' th'bones have been buried by now, I'm assumin'."

"Yes'm. What didn't burn, we buried. Don't know who exactly they were...but we did what we could."

>>12736121


Jakib had to take his time, finding his breath, fighting the flood of memories brought both by both their questions and their very appearance.

"After that....there wasn't anything else like that...but people still kept going missing like before. More people, and more often. Always at night. And moving closer to the main part'o town."

Sandwich asked, "And you're pulling everyone into town now?"

"Been needin' to for a long time...should have done it before this, but some folks are stubborn about leaving their land. Not takin' no for an answer from any of 'em tonight. Gotta pull 'em all in."

The drow nodded, understanding how deep stubborn pride could run, and not without sympathy. "Please try t'bring 'em all in to the village proper then, Father. What have ye got in the way of guards here?"

"Just hunters and whatever farmers what could cobble a spear together. Been making plenty of those lately."

Sandwich's eyes were alight now. "Can they follow orders?"

>>12736280

Jakib considered her words for a moment. "They will. I'll speak with 'em...some of 'em might take some time to come around, but they'll fall in line." He frowned for a moment, taking in the sight of all of them together. "There's some other problems you need to know about, bein' elves..."

Each of them gave him a quizzical look. He figured those words would do it. "Folks here, they're in insulated lot. You all got your ways, and we've got ours, had 'em for a good long while. Some ways better'n others... Most folks 'round here worship Erastil. Like to think I do a good job guidin' them. But for a while, couple of generations back, a few families had a favorin' for Zarus."

He looked at them, wondering if any recognized the obscure deity's name. Only Violet showed any sign of it, her mouth turning to a sad frown. "The god of humans over all others...I've heard of him..." she said.

"He never was too popular 'round here. Only with those with a shortage of things to be proud of 'cept what they were born as." The bitterness in his voice was palpable. Old anger rising from the depth of memory. "Da' put a stop to it right quick, but I can't say it didn't leave an impression on the children of them that bought into that poison. They won't be any threat, but they'll be a bit harder to beat reason into."

They nodded in understanding. "Da'?" Sandwich asked.

"My father. Followed his footsteps." He held his holy symbol before them. "Seemed like the thing to do. Anyway, I'll talk to the others. Explain what you are. And I'll warn 'em about your friend's teeth..."

Huzzah, my timing appears to be perfect. Nice to see you finished your first writefaggotry dude. Gotta read it now though.

>>12736360

"Thank ye, sir. I'll get right t'work! If you can get ever'one together, we can certainly help with defendin' the town tonight."

Violet spoke up. "That's right...it's too late in the day to go hunting for whatever is causing this before nightfall. We need to see to the villagers' safety first."

Gal'adruh crossed her arms, deep in thought. "I would still like to see the farm. We can not simply wait for whatever this is to come to us. We need..."

All inside fell silent when a shout sounded outside. They were rising from their seats when Eward came running in, his eyes wide with terror. "Father Jakib! It's Josef! He's hurt bad!"

Jakib went pale, and raced after the elves who had already started running out of the room. Sandwich pulled her hood up without slowing down, ever mindful as she was.

>>12736390

> finished

OH GOD I WISH

This is turning out to be a LOT longer than I was expecting. I'm going to have to step out for quite some time, but I hope to finish the rest of this chapter later on today. Or probably tonight....

Three "chapters" total.

I've got like maybe a couple of posts left that I can fit in before I have to go. Sorry this is taking so long. Trying hard to get the characters right.

>>12736418
It's awesome to see writefaggotry like this. So don't worry about being a bit slow. As an aside, you will have to start a new thread for the rest, we're 10 posts from the bump limit.

>>12736408

wo other farmers were laying Josef out on one of the pews. He was mumbling incoherently. The man's rough leather jacket was heavily scored by deep scratches, but there was no blood there. On his arm however, a horrific wound was flowing all too freely. An entire chunk of his formarm had been torn out.

Gal'adruh's eyes widened at the sight as she stood aside to let Sandwich and Violet get to him. Their skills were what he needed now, she thought, as she took hold of Keekee's arm and held her away from the scene. She knew if she let go the child would wander over to them and get in the way. Not out of any malice, but simply because that was her way. Keekee had never been quite right in all the time she had known her.

Jakib had joined Violet and Sandwich in their ministrations, and the two farmers stood aside, looking back and forth between their friend and the curious elves that were tending to him. Quiet prayers to three gods were spoken, as Jakib spoke to the seemingly delirious youth, Sandwich closed her hands over that horrible wound, and Violet felt the man for any other wounds, any other sign of what was ailing him besides the obvious.

And still Gal'adruh watched attentively, examining the wound as much as she could. She knew the man's life was secure in the hands of her companions. It was the only reason she could examine him so calmly, without worry for him. Still she felt a pang of guilt for it, but with the loss of the farm, with the loss of any dependable tracks in the recent rain, this was all they had...

>>12736442

Yeah, I'll wait until at least this chapter is done before starting a new thread though. Hate to kick it off and leave it unfinished....

>>12736502

Minutes passed, and Josef finally lay still. His breath was ragged, but regular. His arm was whole once more, only a lighter patch of skin showing where it had been missing earlier. Violet still held her hand to his forehead. "He's burning up...we need some blankets...water too." she said to the two men waiting nearby. They immediately ran off to fetch what she needed.

Dorman came running in as they left, in a near panic as he saw his friend in such a state. "Oh gods, no wonder he never showed! Is he alright?!" Jakib rose to calm the boy. "He'll be fine, they're seein' to him now..." He led the boy outside, to give their patient what peace he could while the others tended to him.

Gal'adruh watched them go and then drew close to Sandwich after the drow stood clear as Violet continued to tend to the ailing man. "Will he be alright?"

Sandwich nodded. "Violet'll see to his fever, whatever's causin' it."

Gal'adruh smiled faintly. "Good, Keekee and I are going out. We will return as quickly as we can."

"We are?" Keekee piped up hopefully. She was so very tired of standing still.

>>12736575

Sandwich looked at her friend curiously. "Ye think ye can track it?"

"We know where the freshest tracks are at least. I need to find them before the rain washes them away."

Sandwich gave Gal'adruh a worried, but stern, look. "Yer not gonna rush off ater it now. With Keekee in tow..."

Gal'adruh smiled at her friend's concern. "No, we will not get ahead of ourselves. I promise not to go hunting alone. Or alone with Keekee."

It was enough to satisfy the paladin, for the moment at least. "Ye be careful, and get back b'fore dark! Well b'fore, since apparently it don't seem to make much of a diff'rence now..."

Keekee was already at the door, fidgeting and waiting for Gal'adruh to come. "Yep yep, out and in realquick! Can we go?"

"We will." Gal'adruh nodded and went after her, before turning back on her way out. "Sandy. That bite. It was a man's bite."

>>12736576

Figure that's as good a place to pause as any... Will continue ASAP

>>12736582
excellent work. I look forward to continuances in a new thread.

>>12736582
I will await the next writfag... formidable writing with rancid breath (or however the saying goes)

>my face when this thread is still alive

so... where's the new thread?

oh wow
Bravo Writefag
Bravo

>>12736631
I hope this guy realizes he mis-posted.

Though it does give me some odd ideas...

>>12737053
since his post is gone, I guess he realized it, yeah.

>>12737053
Yeah, sorry about that
What ideas?

>>12737250
Something along the lines of crossing them over into WFB, or at least statting them.
I can't remember now XP

Just a friendly neighborhood bump

>>12739871
Utterly late response to you, but at 305 posts, we've already past the bump limit. So now anything does nothing.

>>12740493
Oh really?
Should we make a new thread?