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    116 KB A call to arms and artists Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)14:40 No.13126445  
    Hey there /tg/. Its-a me, BMJ!
    First, let’s handle the basics. For those of you that do not know, my team and I made a DH modification for running games in the world of Neon Genesis Evangelion called “Adeptus Evangelion”. Its free, requires the original DH rulebook to play, is available here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6JAJPHIL , and has gone over pretty well. Thanks for that.

    But the show isn’t over yet, not by a long shot. We have a number of extensions of AdEva planned, one of which is swiftly nearing completion. So near, in fact, that the PDF is being compiled in these next few weeks.

    The thing is, there are some little details we still need that, while we can do ourselves, will slow things down and take longer, delaying the PDFs creation and thus release.

    In the interests of getting the PDF out to you all as swiftly as possible, and with the best quality we can muster, I would like to ask you for some of your time and, much more importantly, some of your talent…

    Details to follow.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)14:47 No.13126514
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    The long and short of it is this:

    The next PDF isn't going to be a full book. It will, however, be a (hopefully), very fun supplement which contains seeds and mechanics for various nonstandard adventures in various genres (horror, action, comedy, drama) as well as a whole section of new angels (dubbed Archangels) meant to be powerful and challenging pre-made enemies to insert into your campaign as you see fit should you need a curveball for your players.

    Now, must of this we have under control. But, for obvious reasons, the Archangels have no pre-existing art. We are trying to fix that.

    To that end, we have a small dedicated drawfag team trying to chug out what they can. But there is a lot to do, and they have already been really good sports about this.

    So, if any of you have a kind heart and artistic skill, please consider this a call for drawfags to step forward and take part in a /tg/ homebrew project. Obviously, should any of your work be included you will be credited appropriately.

    Descriptions of the archangels still unclaimed by artists to follow...
    >> Gilgamesh, King of Heroes !EnkiduOJiw!!fXOkC1tdv81 12/12/10(Sun)14:49 No.13126544
    I've negative skill at drawfaggin', sadly, or otherwise I'd offer to help.
    >> First Archangel Description Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)14:50 No.13126558

    Jehudiam presents, at best, a crude approximation of a beetle. It has a single pair of heavy, solid cover-like wings (which it never uses) covering its back, a rather simple torso and a diamond-shaped head, on top of two pairs of limbs built from sharp-edged jointed sections of carapace. The entirety of it is covered in a hard jade-tinted carapace of unknown composition, but with remarkable tensile strength considering Jehudiam's size.

    The Angel takes a rather novel approach to how it attacks. Jehudiam, for reasons unknown, has the ability to move itself and other objects through a recently-mathematically-proven dimension of which humans have no perception. It is therefore a somewhat difficult threat to defeat, as neutralization has no effect on its ability to 'steal' things, among which can include parts of an Evangelion such as its limbs.
    >> Second Archangel Description Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)14:53 No.13126591

    At first, this Archangel does not appear a trickster. A stark white, black-striped, almost shark-tooth-shaped object about a kilometer long, Rahab hovers above the surface like a swift blimp, with its convex side pointed downwards. The two black stripes along its flat upward surface can split themselves from the main creature and create a pair of manipulator tentacles which it uses for various mischief.

    On the convex side, the matching black stripe pair serves an altogether different purpose. They serve as retractable covers, protecting a vast cavern of wombs, tendrils and tumors. Rahab's true power lies in this hellish network: it can produce anywhere between ten and ten million offspring over the course of the day. The exact number is proportional to that specific breed's size – for example, larger floaters around the size of an Evangelion form in batches of ten, whereas meter-long self destructing creatures may be born in groups exceeding 400,000 though even then, variation within a batch can vary wildly.

    Individually, each of these beasts serve varying degrees of miniscule-to-little threat to an Evangelion. En masse, however, they can devastate entire bases, cities, regions and so on, and are fully capable of destroying any small number of Units in a short amount of time.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)15:01 No.13126687

    Well, that's a shame. But how is your skill at poetry, King of Heroes?

    One thing we would love to be able to do with the new PDF is to format it so that it is the product of a Seele Subcommittee purposed with analyzing and predicting the outcome of the so called "less important" Dead Sea Scrolls.

    To this end, we have toyed with the idea of including, with each archangel, a few 'translated lines' from the previously mentioned Dead Sea Scrolls that said Subcommittee read and then used to extrapolate the probably powers of the Archangel described in that passage.

    We we would want, then, is about 4 lines of good old fashioned cryptic, prophetic text for each Archangel. The sort of look and feel of an old people who has been translated as literally as possible, and thus lost its original rhyme.

    Would anyone here be interested in playing around with that? I think it would be a fun and productive way to keep the thread bumped as we wait for the drawfags to arrive.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:04 No.13126715

    So something like a haiku?
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)15:07 No.13126759

    That might work, but don't worry if you have to break form if you need to. Said cryptic lines need to give just enough info for the associated Archangel to be built on them, after all.

    Does this mean you are interested? If so, I'll start posting general descriptions of the Archangels ASAP.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:09 No.13126784

    And lo, the first bowl of judgment is poured
    The apostle strides forth to the world
    He is Jehudiam, He who walks with light
    Held aloft in the gaze of the sun
    And sayeth the Lord, it shall be his mantle
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:10 No.13126791
    Hm. I'm a sometimes-artist. I'm not all that great an if it's a full, finished piece, it takes me too long to bother, but I could contribute something. Certainly if it's a quick ketch or a rather simple project in the first place. And angels can be pretty downright weird...
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:13 No.13126822

    Do you mean vastly open ended prophecy by means of transration rerror?

    Pull that out of my ass all the time. Deathwatch (lol Omega Vault and transcripted xenos chatter) and CoC call for a bit.

    4 lines, non rhyming, vaugely poetic?

    Like This?

    The tower breaks the black line
    Strings laid by dawn are gone by dusk
    The deepest cut is one unnoticed.
    A broken vase spills plenty.

    Things like that?
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)15:14 No.13126835

    Okay, yeah! Like that!

    But, here's the thing, that doesn't give any indication of Jehudiam's ability to steal things, which is fairly important to its concept. If you can work that in, and maybe a reference that could make it seem bug-like, it would be perfect.
    >> Masocristy 12/12/10(Sun)15:20 No.13126919

    Uh wow.
    Well, I'm not the best at mental imagery.
    Could you re-explain what Rahab looks like?
    Or maybe provide a shitscribble rendition.
    I'm a poet/mapmaker and I'd love to help out here.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:22 No.13126940
    Derping me, got it confused with something else.

    There stood an Apostle, most humble of all
    To him is granted the Lord’s protection
    To foes His fullest of fury and wrath
    That their might may be stripped from them
    To return in kind what they have sown.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:28 No.13127010
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    This guy: >>13126791 with a really quick, crappy sketch done on the tablet of Rahab. Or something that might work. I might go back and try a few things to at least depict its gooey interior, as i like drawing masses of weird flesh and organs, on occasion. Dunno why.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)15:31 No.13127040
    Archangel general descriptions for the cryptic verse:

    Galgaliel: Starts as a weak fish-like thing. Once its crawl on land, is absorbs sunlight and mutates on the spot into a much more powerful creature. It’s kind of like a plant-lizard. It’s bigger form can vomit solar flares.

    Zaazenach – Pretty much the Vashta Nerada. A cloud of hungry darkness, except that it can also lay eggs in your Evas flesh which, down the road, might erupt into a new Zaazenach at the worst possible time (like when your Eva has just been defeated by another, later, Angel).

    Zophiel – adorable little metallic thing that has no attacks. It takes over technology around it, turning your bases own defenses into its weapon and buzzing right past all of your best security measures.

    Jehudiam – Already described above.

    Cathetel – Giant tower surrounded by flying swarms. The tower fries you with beams that also act as targeting lasers, so anything hit by them gets gangstabbed by the swarms.

    Marmaroth – An interesting one. Its basically a giant floating fetus-like monstrosity that exists at multiple points in time and tends to escape battle by ‘skipping’ ahead a week or two into the future. When harmed, the next time it tries to escape into the future it collapses and explodes, mindraping everyone nearby.

    Aradia – A ball of light designed to mess with your emotions and mental state to turn your own weaknesses and drawbacks against you with a vengeance.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)15:31 No.13127045

    Kabaiel – flying prismatic crystal that is made of dakka and danmaku, to the point that you have to figure out its attack pattern on the spot if you want to have any chance of dodging it.

    Halaliel – a series of multicolored false cores that redirects your attacks back at you and messes with your ability to effectively use your own powers as it manipulates probability.

    Gamaliel – Giant, Eva-shaped field of blackness that controls gravity and eats Evangelions whole to gain their powers. Walking Black Hole of copycatting.

    Rahab – described above

    Keter – The Big One. A giant gold god shifting in and out of phase with the universe and generating an increasing strong and wider-range Anti-AT Field, mindraping and dissolving everything within miles of it.
    >> Masocristy 12/12/10(Sun)15:33 No.13127066

    Oh, ok.

    Here's something I had from it's description of being tooth-like:

    "...They spoke of the many children:
    Born from a great womb, full of death
    That they do come upon life like a sea of hate
    And soon return to their mother
    Theiving from creation in deathly violence
    She, Rahab, a mouth unable to devour
    So that she sends her children
    To consume all around her."

    I wanted to include something about Rahab "cleansing her children with tongues of night" but I wasn't even sure what Rahab looked like.

    Lemme see if I can come up with something better.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:36 No.13127102
    I have a Rahab one

    And lo, the whore of Jericho spilled forth her brood,
    The Proud One's spawn blotting out the sea and air
    Tumult and noise beyond reckoning she gifts
    Tooth of dreaded leviathan.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)15:39 No.13127119

    Wow. Very nice. I just showed this to the other developers and the immediate response was basically "This thread is now officially worth it".

    Good job. If you think you can do better? BETTER JOB.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:41 No.13127129
    And there above them shall shine Aradia, graced with the form of the sun
    And who can look upon her, but to know their sin and her glory
    And in her light the wicked shall crumble beneath the weight of their corruption
    And the world shall kneel before her in jubilant ecstasy
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)15:41 No.13127136

    Also good. Sorry, I should refresh my screen more often.

    I look forward to your interpretations of the other Archangels.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:45 No.13127162

    Thank you. It's based on the biblical references to Rahab as both a former prostitute and a sea demon with nearly the same name.

    Your sword shall be as a ploughshare before the wonder of God!
    Your weapons his to command!
    For His will be done on earth forever and ever.

    More of a psalm than a poem though.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:49 No.13127196
    An attempt at Galamiel

    From the bowl outpouring came the Apostle
    A mockery of the foes that stood before him
    Clad with night as his ally
    His arm scattered them to disarray
    Those that rose would soon fall
    Veiled in his shadow
    Their strength turned against them
    >> Gilgamesh, King of Heroes !EnkiduOJiw!!fXOkC1tdv81 12/12/10(Sun)15:50 No.13127204
    >Well, that's a shame. But how is your skill at poetry, King of Heroes?
    Not particularly notable, but sure, I'll give it a shot anyway.

    >Keter – The Big One. A giant gold god shifting in and out of phase with the universe and generating an increasing strong and wider-range Anti-AT Field, mindraping and dissolving everything within miles of it.

    Golden light from heaven shines down
    Unsure of its own reality
    It reaches out to everything around it in a golden tide
    Heavenly glory bearing down
    It is only a matter of time until all lie placid before it.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:51 No.13127211
    And the apostle Said;
    Let Rehab Spilleth forth.
    And from the Ivory Goblet did life come.
    and the apostle said let rehab Be all
    And the crawling, swimming and flying things of the land were thus smote.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:52 No.13127219
    >Gamaliel – Giant, Eva-shaped field of blackness that controls gravity and eats Evangelions whole to gain their powers. Walking Black Hole of copycatting.

    "When it comes near,
    even the ground that holds you dear
    gives loose to it's monstrous darkness,
    shall it take you in and you shall belong to it,
    if the hold of the darkness will be firm
    and you will be forever end."

    I tried. I don't htink it's that good. Hope it at least helps, I'll post if I think of any more.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:52 No.13127220
    As the pact of the rainbow is Halaliel
    For those who act in violence shall be smote
    Subtle is the wrath of God
    When shielding his most merciful of servants

    For in man's time of hubris
    Comes humble Zophiel gleaming
    The greatest works as untamed serpents
    And masters made slaves by their pride

    Damn, started writing before your post, sorry.
    >> Masocristy 12/12/10(Sun)15:57 No.13127251
    "Behold now, that Marmamoth is before you
    Mercy to He, Pity unto He,
    That He have no mother or birthing
    Should ye be witness unto his tragedy
    Hold no terror or harm against him
    For a blow will find naught but emptiness
    That shall end you in twelve moon's time."

    I dunno if that "twelve moon's" thing is very christiany, but oh well.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:57 No.13127255
    Then I saw, at the [indecipherable passage] man and not like a man, and its skin was like the shell of a beetle and like the edge of a sword and like the gleam of the moon on water. And before it I saw the [home/city/fortress] of Man, and it reached for the sky and bit deep into the Earth, for Man was mighty, and it was his mightiest creation. And the [home/city/fortress] opened its mouth, and its [powerful/terrible] teeth shone like the sun, and a terrible fire burned in its throat. And as Zophiel, for that was its name, strode on, the [home/city/fortress] shuddered and bowed to it. All its might, the teeth and the claws and the fire, it turned unto Man, and there was much [wailing/despair] from him, for he knew he was now all [alone/on his own].
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)15:57 No.13127259
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    This entire thread.

    Keep up the good work, everyone! And don't feel like you can't do an Archangel just because someone else already did. The worst that can happen is we don't use yours. The best that can happen is we do. Pretty binary, there.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:58 No.13127266
    You who are cast off shall be my servant
    You shall be protected by My arm
    And you shall be guided by My hand
    You who are unwanted shall be the guide
    And against those who seek you harm
    Shall I unleash My terrible wrath
    That they may know the pain of want
    That they may lose even their selves.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)15:59 No.13127269

    The false sun that risen,
    sending all who peer at it blind,
    with rage, sadness, madness and strife.
    And men great and small fell,
    scraping their chests,
    to grasp at their pan.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)16:06 No.13127327
    …and they spoke of the being
    “Behold, Zaazenach!
    He who is night’s ally!
    He who will strike from the dark!
    He will take from them their form
    And he will lay in wait among them
    As does the viper in the brush!”
    >> Masocristy 12/12/10(Sun)16:07 No.13127331

    "Let Night reign above the firmament
    Upon which men tread dutifully
    Betray its purpose within the whole of Gamaliel
    That he should embrace you like a brother
    And take you into his heart
    And should you love Him in turn
    That you shall know Day again."
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)16:07 No.13127337
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    Did something in color. What is about to burst out of that large sack there, I have no clue, but it looked about right for how this thing might function. Though that might be producing something far too large.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)16:15 No.13127411

    Very nice start. a few changes, if you don't mind...

    1: The surface could use some more detail. Maybe not more protrusions, but some sort of something there to make it look less artificial.

    2: The egg is cool, but kind of too big. Rahab is constantly accompanied by its children anyway. Perhaps a swarm pouring out from the bottom, a couple of them closer to the viewer so you have some idea of what the individual smaller ones look like?
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)16:16 No.13127417

    Oh false-faced friend, how dost thou smile at me?
    For a cheat and brigand though thou surely art
    And yet thou smile and play the harlequin
    Oh painted Fool! Curse thou foul trickery
    that snared the ancient Morai's dreadful thread!

    That should be in iambic pentameter, but I'm a bit rusty. Not really biblical, but perhaps a raving renaissance poet and prophet?
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)16:19 No.13127440

    Oh, whoops. One more thing:

    The writer says that the lines are going the wrong way. So, if you can reverse those that would be cool too.

    Also, the more I look at it the more I like the egg, even if it should be smaller.
    >> Kamen 12/12/10(Sun)16:20 No.13127447
    Aside from the things Jan said, which are all true, that is pretty much dead-on accurate. The only thing is originally the black bars were supposed to go back-to-front rather than left-to right. Really though, I can't decide if that would be better than what you have.
    >> Masocristy 12/12/10(Sun)16:28 No.13127520

    "We saw Him come through dawn like mist
    And come unto us, beseeching the day from his form
    And to fill us with the night that made him
    So that he find a womb within our sin
    Should our sin grow within us and, in time, escape us
    Such is the gift of Zaazenach"

    Hm. I think I'm out of inspiration, oh well.
    Hope I was of use.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)16:31 No.13127547
    Hm, I could give it a try. Though I might not, as I'm kind of distracted by other stuff, now. Figured it'd need work, though. If I do get back to it, I'll see what I can do.

    If anyone else wants to give it a try they can feel free to do so, as I'll probably be a while or not get back to it.

    Sorry to get your hopes up, BMJ, but I might as well be honest.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)16:39 No.13127637

    Honesty appreciated. Thanks for your contribution thus far.

    So, lets see. Who doesn't have any verse submitted thus far...
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)16:44 No.13127687
    Eh, I'll try my hand at Keter.

    And the golden figure did appear
    Bearing naught but death and horror
    Eyes of fire, endless madness consuming
    The everblinking deity spreads his poison
    A tide of gold and blood heralds his arrival
    The brilliant circle will expand infinitely
    And all the lands will rot in his coming
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:00 No.13127869

    Yea, The Lord shall raise a tower from which to view the wickedness of the Children of Israel,
    Twelve thousand furlongs high, a lordly roost for his host to perch upon.
    No kingdoms of the earth shall be beyond His sight, nor wickedness beyond His judgement.
    And sinners marked by his searing gaze shall give themselves up, as a thief caught in the night,
    So that his angels may render judgement unto them.
    >> Mari 12/12/10(Sun)17:03 No.13127907
    "and in that place there stood
    the great tower Cathetal, roost
    to the heavenly host of the air.
    Those among us looked to its light,
    and the dancing angels of sky,
    and were in awe"
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:07 No.13127940

    Yours is better than mine. Much less wordy

    >actually worost
    Nice of you to say so, Captcha, but I think you might be wrong.
    >> Mari 12/12/10(Sun)17:09 No.13127958
    heh, I was just thinking the opposite. Wordiness in this case may not be a bad thing. Depends on which version(translation) you're trying to emulate
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:14 No.13128019
    Question: Will Adeptus ever be its own self-contained game, as in I won't need to know anything about Dark Heresy to play it? I find AdEva to be really interesting, but I've never cared for 40k stuff.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:16 No.13128030
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    Shitty short thing I thought of quickly.


    Thou shall escape the Lords judgement
    Thou shall not avoid the Lords judgement
    Thou shall not survive the Lords judement
    Thou shall not discover the pattern of His judgement.
    Think fast for
    Thou is already dead.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:17 No.13128042

    other than some numbers from it's ruleset, which you could easily take out and use only contextually with Ad Eva, there's not really anything about dark heresy in Ad eva. Its just the rules they based their system on
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:17 No.13128045
    It uses the rules of Dark Heresy and that's not gonna change.
    Thematically, it has nothing to do with Warhammer. Unless you want it to, of course.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:17 No.13128053
    You don't need to know anything about 40k to play AdEva, it just uses the Dark Heresy ruleset, which in this case boils down to roll a d100, get below your stat score.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:21 No.13128091

    this sounds like a referrence I'm missing
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:21 No.13128096
    Prophesy for Rahab

    And so as the Queen of foulness herself
    did birth a world in blood. The followers
    would look to the living fortress and
    cry "Shall we see bretheren?"
    The grim answer was given as
    the blood of the followers joined their
    mothers in Heaven
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:22 No.13128106
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    >forgot my shitty ms paint quick pic

    Just an idea I had about Cathetal OP- I don't know if you all make your angels have "halos" ala the recent Rebuild films, but thats kind of what I went off of in this shitty MS paint adventure.

    The thought was making cathetal an inverted tower, with the point "hanging" over ground combatants like a sword of damocles- and where the "earth" would be at the foundation of the tower is instead a hazy, cloudlike halo if that makes sense.

    If I had a tablet and a tablet pen I could make it look prettier in a program like Studio.
    >> Mari 12/12/10(Sun)17:23 No.13128114

    this is pretty common on the tower/crumbling tower in tarot, and it looks pretty badass normally
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:23 No.13128116
    It also uses some of the DH skills and talents, to be fair. So you will probably need a rulebook.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:24 No.13128123
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    I see. I glanced over a version I found on /rs/(a collection of pdfs for each chapter) and there were a few things that referred a stat or ability or whatever to "as in Dark Heresy". I probably just didn't read through everything.
    >> Mari 12/12/10(Sun)17:28 No.13128168

    yeah, that's pretty much always a rule or talent reference, not to setting or anything like it
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:28 No.13128173
    >mfw Gamaliel is almost identicle to a normal angel I'm making for my group

    Anyway: Keter

    And the false lord did come.
    With all intents we wish to worship him
    But told nae by our rules are we.
    For he is the calf of Aaron
    and the lord not. But revoker of
    our sanctity to tempt us from Heaven
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:34 No.13128238

    Wasps buzzing forever around
    their hive. The queen doth
    direct her soldiers with her sting.
    Manna is their honey
    for they are the agents of God.
    Rest not will they until the wicked fall
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:44 No.13128325
    >Wasps buzzing forever around
    their hive. The queen doth
    direct her soldiers with her sting.

    Another thing that comes to mind-- make the "drones" look like blocks used in the construction of momma tower.
    >> Mari 12/12/10(Sun)17:47 No.13128356
    here's a few more

    "and over the people gathered there,
    there descended the light of the Aradia.
    Those who were with the crowd through wicked hearts
    became disgusted with their actions, and fled into the desert"

    the wicked rushed to meet us from their cities great gates,
    but among us there was the messenger Zophiel,
    to whom their swords payed hommage, and refused their masters pulls.
    So to became of their mounts and followers, who led our charge"

    and Marmaroth:
    "in my vision the great legions of that place's denizens,
    stretching over legues, began to try and cease Marmaroth's words.
    Each time they struck, their swords found only eachother while its
    triumphant song came anew from another hill on the battlefield, inspiring
    the last of us with his heavenly might"
    >> Mari 12/12/10(Sun)17:48 No.13128366

    anyone reading zophiel just try to pretend I can spell today
    >> Alexander Degtyarev !!AucbFFW1c5L 12/12/10(Sun)17:48 No.13128367
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    >FMW Angel names dont end in "(i)el" (... of God)

    (Tabris is man-made so he doesnt count.)
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:50 No.13128391
    in the religeon, the -iel ending is used or not used in angel names. There are many things referred to as angels that do not have of god in their name, and many who do.

    So what again was the issue?
    >> Alexander Degtyarev !!AucbFFW1c5L 12/12/10(Sun)17:52 No.13128408
    tradition. exceptions being rare. notably Sandalphon...
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)17:56 No.13128448
    In the ocean’s bosom does reside Galgaliel
    Restless it does seek the light on high
    That it may share its song with those above
    To rise aloft under watch of the sun
    And to wear the light as its mantle
    There it may grow evermore
    And gift to all its radiance.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)18:03 No.13128504

    so much for being inb4 self-involved bullshit
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)18:06 No.13128526

    If it makes you feel better, every single archangel named in this thread? Is an Angel name we looked up to fit the concept.
    >> Alexander Degtyarev !!AucbFFW1c5L 12/12/10(Sun)18:12 No.13128588
    fair enough
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)18:25 No.13128678

    All realms of Creation tremble witnessing the descent
    Below Or Ein Sof the Crown
    shines the golden turth of the Word upon the World
    The Hidden Light shines through the souls of Man
    Everything shall yearn to be One
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)18:44 No.13128831

    Comes forth the one, who consumes the flesh of the wicked
    Avalanche, Flood, Twilight follows the wake of the shadow of heathens
    As the devouring mirror of darkness engulfs all around
    All shall be purified through the sins of kin.
    >> Sorain 12/12/10(Sun)18:47 No.13128867
    Light reveals, as it was before,
    Shadows and airs cannot dwell there.
    Aradia is the lords truth,
    yet what man desires it?

    If a thousand suns were to burst into the heavens at once,
    that would be out shined by the glory of the mighty one.
    In chaos does god hide salvation, and Kabaiel delivers it to all.

    This world is more full of places, then men comprehend, and for each God has appointed a keeper. Jehudiam leads through these places as god leads the righteous to salvation, his appointed task clad in the color of life itself. The secret ways of the world do not bend to any will save that of god.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)18:48 No.13128881
    What you and your team need to do is get someone to edit your shit. Seriously the first thing I noticed when I read through AdEva.
    >> Sorain 12/12/10(Sun)18:49 No.13128893

    And Cathetel came, a host about his head. To some god leaves it to lead, and others to follow at his command. Cathetel points, and judgment comes upon a thousand swift wings. For what to god is man? An all in relation to nothing.


    The Laws of man do not hold that which Zophiel commands. His is the writ of possession, that all that is was forged by god, and shall be enlisted to his service as the farmer from the fields. For the law of The Lord supersedes all of the laws of men, and none may bar the way.


    It is said that children are the future, and as we are children before God, so is Marmaroth many and yet not so. To harm Marmaroth is to harm the future, who aside from God can see the future? See its paths and skeins reaching off into the infinite, and not weep in insignificance?


    And man built himself a statue of gold to worship instead of The Lord, saying “Wherefore is greater then I?” So God sent Keter to them from its place beyond this world. And where Keter appeared to crush their idols, the people wept tears of blood, and a man would cry his life's blood through his mourning hands. From blood man was wrought, and too it shall he return.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:02 No.13129040
    Kabaiel doesn't seem to be getting much love, I'll take a whack at him.

    Lo, did the Lord loose from his own crown
    A gem of aspect most perfect and terrible
    And did breathe into it life, and named it Kabaiel.
    And unto it he did say, "Go forth, and unto the wicked
    Render the judgement of the Lord by Fire and Thunder."
    And so it was.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:14 No.13129191
    I've got a few here. I ended up with a theme in the storytelling, kinda a revelations like vision.

    Jehudiam: “And a great gong did sound from above and Pharaoh quaked in fear. And the words of god sounded in Pharoah’s great chamber and with each word Pharoah’s wealth and magnificence vanished from sight. And the angel said ‘behold, as long as you turn from him shall that which you hold most dear be taken by that which you most revered”
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:15 No.13129203
    Rahab: “And I heard a great voice speak COME, and a great shadow fell across the land. And I looked above and beheld a great striped behemoth, a great whale held aloft on the wings. And the behemoth opened its body and a multitude of its young sprang out, and laid waste to the lands and people as though locusts. When they finished the land lay bare and broken.”

    >truth rehilhed

    Captcha is trying to get in on this
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:16 No.13129212
    Galgaliel: “And from the abyss there was heard a great moaning. And the seas swelled, and the waves parted, revealing a gasping, screeching, scaled blasphemy. It threw itself upon the shore, gasping and shuddering as if breathing its last. But under the lords gaze its body rooted itself into the shores and grew to a beat of great and terrifying proportion. And its new body opened its many mouths, and rained fire down upon the lands.”
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:16 No.13129221
    Zophiel – “And I heard a great voice speak LIVE, and the lord’s breath came upon the statue and it began to move and speak and live. And it walked among the many lands of man untouched, for wherever it went man’s works turned against him. The smith’s hammer would not pound, the point of the spearman would bend itself back against its wielder. Even the swords of kings leaped from their sheathes to slay those who would raise hands against it.”
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:17 No.13129229
    Cathetel – “And I heard a great voice speak RISE, and the great ruins shook, and that which was Babel rose into the sky. And the stone knit together as if mending flesh, and upon its walls a great multitude of eyes sprouted and shone forth. Foul winged carrion beasts flew up to become its residents, and it swung its baleful gaze across the land. And to be seen by its gaze was DEATH, for whenever its gaze would look upon the living a great cry would come forth from the tower, and its residents will fall upon the living and slay them”
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:17 No.13129235
    Hell, one for Cathetel too, there are fun.

    As men are made in the image of the Lord
    So too are the works of men the images of those forged by His great hands
    And as men are but unworthy shadows before His grace
    So too are the walls of men but anthills before Cathetel
    Whose vigilant eye pierces the debased
    That Its heavenly garrison
    May bring justice most terrible.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:18 No.13129241
    Aradia – “And I heard a great voice speak SEE, and a glowing crystal orb descended from the heavens. And those who looked within its depths saw the multitude of their sins laid bare before them, and their weaknesses laid bare before others. And the town square descended into madness as men began frothing at the mouth and turning upon each other.”
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:18 No.13129250
    Gamaliel – “And I heard a great voice speak BETRAY, and the shadows of men leaped up and strangled their masters. And the shadows banded together into a great blasphemous beast, and wherever this beast trod the land and sky would warp and shatter beneath it. And the great armies of man marched against it, but it devoured their weapons and grew great claws. It devoured their greatest warriors, and the shadows gained their forms, and marched forth against the many nations.”
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:20 No.13129269
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    Kabaiel – “And I heard a great voice speak…MASTERRRR SPAAAAAARRRRK!”

    Yeah, I'm out for now.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:26 No.13129315

    BEAST. I meant beast.

    Unless you want a giant multi-mouthed vegetable to defeat your Evas.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:26 No.13129319

    "And a wall of flame descended upon the world,
    Mark of Kabaiel! Herald of Kabaiel!
    And the flame danced and spiralled at its master's call,
    Will of Kabaiel! Decree of Kabaiel!
    And the flame's heart was held within a jewel, shining and radiant,
    Beauty of Kabaiel! Glory of Kabaiel!
    And all shall fall before it, and all shall know death,
    Strength of Kabaiel! Victory of Kabaiel!"
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)19:41 No.13129457
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    Could someone post that picture of the Eva without its armor on? Beneath was mostly bandages and a grotesque visage, I can't remember if it was unit 00 or unit 01. I think the file name was "eva under the hood" or something like that
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/12/10(Sun)19:48 No.13129512

    You mean like Biollante?

    Come to think of it, that could make a good plot: Combine plant cells with Angel/Eva cells and see what you get.

    Also, throw in Rufus from Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure as foreign assassin spouting bad engrish.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/12/10(Sun)20:05 No.13129666
    >Galgaliel: Starts as a weak fish-like thing. Once its crawl on land, is absorbs sunlight and mutates on the spot into a much more powerful creature. It’s kind of like a plant-lizard. It’s bigger form can vomit solar flares.

    Wait. Hang on, isn't this name a bit close to Gaghiel, the 6th Angel that they killed in the atlantic in canon?
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)21:31 No.13130664
    Bringing a great thread up.
    >> macrophage 12/12/10(Sun)21:41 No.13130779

    This was a dropped plot and flavor point in my game that I decided against introducing somewhere in the beginning of season 2.

    00: Baptisia
    01: Chrysanthemum
    02: (never came up with a good flower for it)
    03: Calystegia
    04: N/A(scrapped eva)
    05: Rafflesia
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)21:55 No.13130934
    >Rafflesia eva

    I'm not sure what horrifies me more, the thought of an eva with petals, or the thought of an eva killing angels with its horrid smell.
    >> Mastermind_Omega 12/12/10(Sun)21:55 No.13130935
    Imagine if Gaghiel threw itself onto the land and then turned into Biollante. That's Galgaliel.
    >> macrophage 12/12/10(Sun)22:12 No.13131136

    There's a theme, see. Because Crysanthemum's pilot ended up in Rafflesia after said first eva went Bardiel.
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)22:37 No.13131366
    Alright, I'm not quite sure which ones already have FUCKING AWESOME poems done having skimmed a bit, so let me just try my hand at this.

    "From the ruined seas it will come
    Pity and scorn shall be its armor and shield
    But deception and change is its sword
    Fueled by the righteous fire of the Lord
    It shall come and unleash His Wrath
    And all will know Galgaliel"
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/12/10(Sun)22:40 No.13131386
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    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)22:49 No.13131474

    Cool. Thanks, JSCervini.

    We have another another guy working on another Zaazench picture at the moment, but a little competition is healthy.

    Any chance of you could take a stab at Rahab or Jehudiam?

    Or, if you feel like you can do a decent Evangelion, we might have something else for you...
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/12/10(Sun)22:55 No.13131543
    I'm awful at the Evas, but I'm working on a Zophiel as we speak.
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/12/10(Sun)23:03 No.13131605
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    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)23:03 No.13131608
    just so you guys know: I'm stealing and scaling down a lot of these ideas for my own campaign, which also has bibilically-influenced beasts as a major antagonist.

    these are all fantastic ideas. good luck.
    >> Guardsman Harry 12/12/10(Sun)23:12 No.13131683
    Sup BMJ, I'm too lazy to read the thread, so mind tossing me a quick list of what angels you still need drawn?

    It's been a while since I've drawn anything and a few gesture drawings for this might be the thing I need to get out of my rut.
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 12/12/10(Sun)23:19 No.13131766
    I'm not sure where BMJ got to, but Jehudiam still has absolutely nothing even though it got a full description way up in the thread.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)23:19 No.13131767

    Good to hear it Harry. Still waiting on


    But there was one guy who made a very nice start there with >>13127337

    If you want to go that route. You don't even have to use his picture for anything, but its close enough to what we want that you should at least take a look at it for clarification.

    (Now to hope that I didn't screw up any of the above links)
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/12/10(Sun)23:32 No.13131933
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    As you requested BMJ
    >> Mastermind_Omega 12/12/10(Sun)23:36 No.13132001
    That is a most righteous Jehudiam you have there. What are you using to do these anyways?
    >> Sachiel 12/12/10(Sun)23:37 No.13132014
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    If you don't mind waiting until the end of the month, you can have all these in an even more detailed form, though without an understanding of the rules it could prove not to be worth it.


    You are loved forever. How would you like to be credited, as per your nametag?
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/12/10(Sun)23:39 No.13132034
    Photoshop CS5.

    J. S. Cervini is allright. It's my professional name. I'll take credit, even for shitscribbles. :P
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/12/10(Sun)23:39 No.13132044
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    EXCELLENT. Very, very nice.

    Tell me, how would you like to be credited in the PDF for your work?

    One thing that we find is usually a good balance of anonymity and ability to say "yeah, that's me" is your screen name followed by your initials.

    Up to you, though.
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/12/10(Sun)23:42 No.13132087
    J. S. Cervini will do nicely.
    >> Guardsman Harry 12/12/10(Sun)23:52 No.13132212
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    Possibly something like this?
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)23:55 No.13132239
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    I see what you did there.
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 12/12/10(Sun)23:56 No.13132262
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    You got us!
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/12/10(Sun)23:56 No.13132267
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    And a Halaliel to boot!
    >> Anonymous 12/12/10(Sun)23:58 No.13132277


    I so want to run NEON GENESIS OVERMAN
    >> Sachiel 12/12/10(Sun)23:58 No.13132290
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    I expect no less of /tg/! Now can you find the others?
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 12/13/10(Mon)00:00 No.13132317
    Geofront on rails? DO IT.

    But anyway this thread is for art. There are other threads up, though, if you don't mind a minor hijack.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/13/10(Mon)00:02 No.13132334
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    Now you've done it. You've ruined everything. The whole house of cards is gonna come down because of you.

    I hope it was worth it.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)00:03 No.13132348
    Somehow i think Beetle horns would look good on him
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)00:08 No.13132407
    I just want you to know that you're a cocksucker. Or so my players say. I tossed an apocalyptic angel at them, for their fourth battle, at their REQUEST. It ended up as an amorphous encroachment type angel. It flew. It was massive in size. 220 synch ratio? Fuck.

    The whole thing was basically a gigantic raised middle finger from the dice. The attacks were.. okay - two AT powers and a melee power. Plus the 7 regular AT powers afforded by the rules.

    They lasted three turns.
    >> Sachiel 12/13/10(Mon)00:12 No.13132450
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    By the way, rest assured that even if we already have art for most of these, your drawings will be used.


    And yes, something like that!
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/13/10(Mon)00:12 No.13132452
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    Well, that's what happens when you go for the big fish too soon. What did they think was going to happen?
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/13/10(Mon)00:14 No.13132468
    Working on a Keter as we speak. May be a while with this one. I wanna make it epic!
    >> Guardsman Harry 12/13/10(Mon)00:15 No.13132478
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    I've got a couple extra little concept doodles I did while waiting...
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)00:19 No.13132507
    i would if i didn't find the Dark Heresy system distasteful

    I want to like it but I can't
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/13/10(Mon)00:24 No.13132571

    I like these. At first I wasn't sure about the dangly bits, but there are starting to grow on me.

    If I had to pick which i like best, it would be the bottom of the three in pic 2. But make sure we have some swarmers around too.
    >> Sorain 12/13/10(Mon)00:30 No.13132625
    > I tossed an apocalyptic angel at them, for their fourth battle, at their REQUEST.
    >The whole thing was basically a gigantic raised middle finger from the dice.
    >They lasted three turns.

    Not bad really. its called Apocaliptic class for a reason. Your players are acting silly. You ask for the apocalipse, you get it, then you compain that you got what you ordered? I do not understand them. Tabris will be Tabris. (IRC in joke I suppose)
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)00:36 No.13132686
    Well, they now have a greater respekt for Dark Heresy. And AE. And I have a greater repository of creative swear words.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)00:41 No.13132730
    This world is more full of places, then men comprehend, and for each God has appointed a keeper. Jehudiam leads through these places as god leads the righteous to salvation, his appointed task clad in the color of life itself. The secret ways of the world do not bend to any will save that of god.

    And there above them shall shine Aradia, graced with the form of the sun
    And who can look upon her, but to know their sin and her glory
    And in her light the wicked shall crumble beneath the weight of their corruption
    And the world shall kneel before her in jubilant ecstasy
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/13/10(Mon)00:48 No.13132797

    That Aradia one was already posted! I remember it because I thought it was awesome!

    The Jehudiam is cool too.
    >> Sorain 12/13/10(Mon)01:01 No.13132921
    nice second one. I kinda assume you accidently copyed the first. Really, I like your Aradia better then mine.
    >> Guardsman Harry 12/13/10(Mon)01:03 No.13132934
    Alright, here's the framework for the final drawing, I'll update as I go.
    >> Guardsman Harry 12/13/10(Mon)01:04 No.13132944
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    Oops, forgot my image there.
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 12/13/10(Mon)01:13 No.13133024
    It's coming out nicely!

    BMJ went to bed but I'm still around for a bit to see it.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)01:15 No.13133038
    Fuck it I'll try my hand.

    Zophiel – adorable little metallic thing that has no attacks. It takes over technology around it, turning your bases own defenses into its weapon and buzzing right past all of your best security measures.

    Though man made the spear,
    Though man made the arrow and torch,
    The Heavens did weep silver,
    Man would make his own destruction.
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/13/10(Mon)01:18 No.13133070
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    Hope this thread is still around tomorrow! I'm gonna stop drawfagging for now. My hand hurts.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)01:25 No.13133124

    Actually, I meant to say that they were awesome and should go in the book.

    Stupid 4chan is dropping
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)01:29 No.13133156
    Fucking weeaboos. Trying mess up 40k with your anime faggotry.
    >> Sorain 12/13/10(Mon)01:33 No.13133199
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    ah. Its cool. I don't bother raging over 4 chan anymore. I like to think of it as like insanity resistance. Once you hit 40 or so, most things dont bother you anymore. of course you typically end up pic related.
    >> Guardsman Harry 12/13/10(Mon)01:33 No.13133200
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    I think this is it. If I spend more time on it, I'll probably just fuck it up and find some reason to erase it.
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/13/10(Mon)01:36 No.13133230
    I've been meaning to comment on these, but I've been too busy with my own. I just really love the sketchy, inky feel of it. Kinda want you to use that style on some of the other Archangels, just to see how they will come out.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)01:42 No.13133282


    I still ate him in the end. HE WAS DELICIOUS.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)01:44 No.13133312
    inb4 that sketchy look is what he looks like. You can't quite focus on it.

    That would actually be kinda neat.
    >> Mastermind_Omega 12/13/10(Mon)01:50 No.13133364
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    Did you do this just now Cervini?
    >> Guardsman Harry 12/13/10(Mon)01:50 No.13133367
    Thanks, man. It's always nice to hear good things about my scribbles. As a drawfag, however; I've still got a long way to go.

    I've gotta say, though. I wish I could pump out fully rendered illustrations as quickly as you and some of the other people here. Shit's pretty cash.
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/13/10(Mon)01:54 No.13133415
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    I think you're off to a great start. :) As for me, that's how I sketch. I don't have the patience to do a fully rendered image though. Work and such kills my mood before I can really finish something.

    Pic somewhat related
    >MFW I watched NGE for the first time in middle school.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)02:10 No.13133533
    Wish I'd seen this earlier, but for anyone still thinking of submitting: actual Hebrew poetry was largely based on parallellism -- the repetition of the same concept in slightly different ways.

    E.g. Psalm 24:
    > 3 Who may ascend the mountain of the LORD? / Who may stand in his holy place?
    > 4 The one who has clean hands / and a pure heart, // who does not trust in an idol / or swear by a false god.

    Seriously, read the Psalms, preferably in a modern English translation; that'll give you a good idea of how to sound pseudo-Hebraic.

    (Of course that assumes you're doing Hebrew poetry. Most Hebrew prophecy wasn't actually poetic.)

    ... I tried starting in on one but am keeling over from lack of sleep and a cold so eh.
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/13/10(Mon)02:25 No.13133684
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    Those post numbers were supposed to be the other way around. Geez, I'm getting tired. I'm gonna call it a night. Hope the thread is here tomorrow.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)09:03 No.13135931
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    >> Gilgamesh, King of Heroes !EnkiduOJiw!!fXOkC1tdv81 12/13/10(Mon)13:11 No.13137650
    Still need lines for any of the archangels? I'll give whichever is remaining a shot if you do.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)13:39 No.13137874
    I'm having problems coming up with proper "life on the ground" scenarios.
    Actually, I blame my players, because their characters are anti-social dickweeds, even more than the series cast.
    I like to blame my players.
    >> Mastermind_Omega 12/13/10(Mon)13:39 No.13137875
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    I believe all of the archangels have been done at least once but you're still free to contribute whatever you can come up with!
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)13:40 No.13137884
    >that pic

    >> Mordegald 12/13/10(Mon)14:07 No.13138092
    A quick little Kabaiel concept I tossed together in Photoshop. Have I mentioned I love the Blur tool?
    >> Mordegald 12/13/10(Mon)14:07 No.13138096
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    Dammit, forgot mah pic.
    >> LDT-A 12/13/10(Mon)14:16 No.13138163
    Well the chart in Life on the Ground does pretty well for most people, but I'll assume you, like me, have players who are... rather less public figures than the norm and hence don't fit into standard scenarios.

    The fundamental switch to take place here is to start thinking about events and places, rather than the people involved. Ones I ran to some success:
    - The OD runs a ludicrously over elaborate real life training exercise. Had tragic consequences but maybe your pilots are less likely to hospitalise 20 children with semi-permanent injuries within the context of a "paintball match"

    -Set up encounters in a more interesting area of the base, such as Eva maintenance.

    -Characters birthday. They go out somewhere interesting.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)14:30 No.13138279

    >More antisocial than the series class


    I don't even.

    Do they even have any hobbies or skills outside of giant robots? Does the Ops dude show up to a firing range or something? I don't even understand how that's possible.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)14:58 No.13138559
    Look to the guy above you. His game is made of horrible monsters randomly killing people for no good reason. Sometimes, they fight Angels, too.

    Speaking of which, you should tell us some more Tales from Sydney-14
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)16:53 No.13139771
    Bump did a table top game. Wasnt too bad I just couldnt get the right feel I guess.
    >> Drawfag X-09 !W7.CkkM01U 12/13/10(Mon)17:24 No.13140050
    >Or, if you feel like you can do a decent Evangelion, we might have something else for you...

    I'm game.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/13/10(Mon)17:33 No.13140139
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    Thanks to this thread, (and possibly a new PDF on the horizon) I digged up the AdEva PDF's on my hard drive and started statting out things like Eva's and in one case an Angel.

    I'm trying to think up what the Top Secret Unit-X is supposed to be for considering I rolled the following:
    Predatory (1d5+1R Bite Attack, +3 WS, +3 S)
    Hulking Frame (+3 S +3 T, -3 Agility)
    Feedback Supressors (-5 Synch, +10 to resist feedback)

    Primary: Dark Grey Secondary: Black

    S:40 T:35 A:-3 WS+3

    Any ideas? Anybody?
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)17:44 No.13140264
    Sounds like an ambush predator, of a sort. Strategy would likely be to wait in concealment for its teammate(s) to neutralize the enemy's field, then 'Zerk out and tear it to bits.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/13/10(Mon)18:01 No.13140461
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    I suppose, but that doesn't really explain why all data on it would be classified. Well, more classified than the others anyhow. One idea was that it was built in secret as some sort of Anti-Evangelion measure should one of the kids go rogue, or an Eva goes completely fucking berserk or gets co-opted by an angel.

    Would anyone like to see the other designs I got with the randomizer?
    >> Drawfag X-09 !W7.CkkM01U 12/13/10(Mon)18:19 No.13140658
    Well, maybe it's testing to make eva's anyone can pilot? Or the dummy plug program? Or the "artificial pilot" program?
    Calm (IE little ego), feedback suppressors to have your test pilots come out again sane...
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/13/10(Mon)18:27 No.13140740

    Ok, I'll admit this one is a doozy, but that's why we don't have a pre-existing picture for it...

    We need an Evangelion or two in a city looking at a core floating in the air. No angel attacked tot he core, just a red sphere. Except that the Core is just radiating power. Ripples in the air, dark energy of some kind. Nothing explicitly damaging or lightening based, just the sense that this core is radiating power and affecting the area around it somehow.

    The whole picture should be rather dark and lean in kind of a spooky/horror direction if at all possible.

    Its kind of a tall order, but that's what we need if you are willing to step up to the plate for it.
    >> Drawfag X-09 !W7.CkkM01U 12/13/10(Mon)18:44 No.13140883
    I am so there.
    Lemme make a quick thumbnail or something. What kind of format do you want?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/13/10(Mon)18:44 No.13140888
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    A test unit for a manufactured series would make sense, also, if an Evangelion is lost, the Ops Director could pull a Just As Planned if he/she knew about it to have had it shipped over prior.

    I'll post the other Eva designs I came up with, just dicking about with a RNG and the tables.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/13/10(Mon)18:49 No.13140934
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    Evangelion Unit-Y (Prototype)

    Calm Soul (Double Confirmation needed to berzerk. +10 to resist fear)
    Extra Eyes (+3 BS, Reroll failed awareness tests once per round)
    Weapons Rack (Carries 1 basic weapon)
    Flagship Unit

    Primary: Neon Green Secondary: White

    S:33 T:35
    Armour Wounds
    Head 2 3
    R.Arm 2 5
    L.Arm 2 5
    Body 4 9
    L.Leg 2 5
    R.Leg 2 5
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/13/10(Mon)18:55 No.13140997
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    Evangelion Unit-A (Test Type)

    Angelic AT Field
    (Berzerk EVA's will treat as hostile)
    -1d5 Synch Ratio
    ATS +1
    Redundant Organs (+1 Wound to all areas)
    Lightweight Chassis (-1 Armour to all areas, +5 Agility)
    Patchwork construction (-10 Toughness, no collatoral damage if it loses a limb)

    Primary: Dark Yellow Secondary: Dull Black

    S:35 T:21 A:+5
    Armour Wounds
    Head 1 3
    R.Arm 1 5
    L.Arm 1 5
    Body 3 8
    L.Leg 1 5
    R.Leg 1 5
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/13/10(Mon)18:57 No.13141007
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    Evangelion Unit-B (Refined Production Model)

    Dormant Soul (Will never Berzerk if the Synch rate is below 60)
    Regenerative (Subtract one collatoral from the pool after combat)
    Leg Piston (+2 to AG bonus for running)
    Concept Model (1 extra SUP and WUP. +2 points of collatoral after combat)

    S:33 T:35
    Armour Wounds
    Head 2 3
    R.Arm 2 5
    L.Arm 2 5
    Body 4 9
    L.Leg 2 5
    R.Leg 2 5

    Primary: Dark Grey Secondary: Dark Purple
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/13/10(Mon)18:58 No.13141020
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    Evangelion Unit-K (Enhanced Heavy Combat Model)

    Destructive Soul (+1 point of critical damage in melee when Berzerk. 3 Collatoral damage instead of 2)
    Bioluminescant Blood (-20 to concealment, Neon Red)
    Heavy Armour (+1 Armour, -5 to Agility)
    Symbol (If symbol survives battle: +1d5 funding at the end of a battle.)

    Primary: Grey Secondary: Bright Red

    S:32 T:36 A:-5
    Armour Wounds
    Head 3 3
    R.Arm 3 5
    L.Arm 3 5
    Body 5 9
    L.Leg 3 5
    R.Leg 3 5
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/13/10(Mon)18:59 No.13141031
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    Evangelion Unit-M (Mass Production Model)

    Protective (Only +1 Collatoral when this goes berzerk)
    Cyclopean (ReRoll 1 failed Awareness test per rount, -1 wound to head)
    Weapon Rack
    Badly Financed (1 less round of operating time when unplugged.)

    Primary: Bright Green Secondary: White

    S:35 T:31
    Armour Wounds
    Head 2 2
    R.Arm 2 5
    L.Arm 2 5
    Body 4 9
    L.Leg 2 5
    R.Leg 2 5
    >> Drawfag X-09 !W7.CkkM01U 12/13/10(Mon)19:08 No.13141110
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    Maybe something like this?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/13/10(Mon)19:11 No.13141132
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    I suppose if I had to go into more detail on the models...

    Unit-Y: The original prototype, revealed to the world possibly as some kind of publicity stunt, or perhaps the Angels attacked before any of the EVA's were ready and revealing it was publicity damage control.

    Basically, the worst EVA in the series, only kept around for badly explained reasons. The ACTUAL reason being that it occupies the position in SEELE's great plan that Unit-01 occupied. In that it's a lilith clone instead of an Adam clone. Or possibly a patchwork monstrosity between the two.
    It's possible that the armour was made light deliberately by people opposed the Instumentality Project so that they could destroy it and scupper SEELE's plans.

    Effectively a parallel to Asuka's Unit-02, whilst the previous Evangelions were unique, Unit-B would be the basic template to which all other Evangelions made subsequently would adhere too. Although, given their cost that would mean at most there would be about 4 or 5 Unit-B's (Numbered numerically IE: B1, B2 and so on) in the world.

    A mid-season upgrade or replacement for a lost Eva, Unit-K would be designed to deal with the more dangerous angels now appearing. Heavy armour, a bad attitude, and quite possibly a great big BMW badge on it's chest.

    Whearas B was the standardised form, Unit-M was the simplified form, a model designed with the cheapest possible components to create and keep maintained. The idea was that many of these could be built relatively cheaply, and then activated as other Eva's are destroyed. Like a journeyman in a Blood Bowl team. Of course, the costs and logistics of activating ALL of them at once would be nightmarish.
    But, if SEELE have deployed THEIR mass production Eva's, perhaps then would be the time set up a Royal Rumble...?
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/13/10(Mon)19:14 No.13141154

    Oh yessss

    Something like that will do nicely.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/13/10(Mon)19:14 No.13141156

    It's a good start. The Eva on the right foreground needs some work though.
    I'd say the core needs to be more clearly defined, it sort of just looks like a vague mass that could be the sun obscured by clouds or anything really at the moment.

    Just my take.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/13/10(Mon)19:21 No.13141236

    Hmmm. On second thought, some slightly more dynamic poses for the Evas could be cool. Up to you, though.
    >> Drawfag X-09 !W7.CkkM01U 12/13/10(Mon)19:35 No.13141409
    How dynamic do you mean?
    "I'm about to run up this building and kick this core into the sun" dynamic, or what?
    I was going for a sort of "Oh man, what the fuck do they even expect us to do with this thing" vibe.
    >> Drawfag X-09 !W7.CkkM01U 12/13/10(Mon)19:59 No.13141676
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    Whoa Nelly, it's almost 2 AM over here.
    I'mma have to get some sleep. I'll see if this is still here when I get up, but if it isn't I'll need some way of getting it to you.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/13/10(Mon)20:02 No.13141715

    #AdeptusEvangelion at Rizon.net. Its the IRC where we do most of our stuff.

    Sorry be being so slow to respond.
    >> Drawfag X-09 !W7.CkkM01U 12/13/10(Mon)20:07 No.13141779
    I'll contact you there when this is looking more presentalbe, then. G'night.
    >> vendredi !!RLgbKFHhXo1 12/13/10(Mon)20:30 No.13142043
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    Here's a riff off JSCervini's Jehudiam in >>13131933
    I like the look, reminds me a bit of Sachiel - would be willing to help do some other black and white pics of the already submitted designs. I'm not terribly great with colour so if any other drawfag wants to pick up one of my pieces and colourize them that's fine with me.
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/13/10(Mon)20:37 No.13142121
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    Wow, the thread is still up. Perhaps I should get back to work on some ideas! Also, nice pose with that one. It looks very Sachiel indeed!
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/13/10(Mon)20:46 No.13142217

    You know, I don't know WHY I didn't mention this earlier...

    But we actually have a channel set up for our drawfags we already have. If you feel like it, you can drop into #adevaart at Rizon.net for some more "face to face"-ish IRC discussion. Its probably flat out quicker and more detailed than what we have going on right now.
    >> Anonymous 12/13/10(Mon)21:11 No.13142480
    I just love how this thread started out by asking for Drawfags, but mentioning that some writefags might be able to do some stuff while we wait.

    Cue shitton of middling to awesome peusdo-prophecy
    Then, drawfags, drawfags everywhere....
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/13/10(Mon)23:44 No.13144429
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    A couple fresh ones for y'all!
    >> JSCervini !!L+hOixyXrvo 12/13/10(Mon)23:46 No.13144440
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    >> Jebus 12/13/10(Mon)23:58 No.13144604
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    A go on Keter. It'd be all colored and cleaned up, but I have no tablet and only barely know anything about Photoshop.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/14/10(Tue)02:17 No.13146171
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    Man. When I started this thread a day or two ago, I NEVER expected in my WILDEST IMAGININGS that it would be so successful.

    Thanks a lot, /tg/. You did all excellent work.
    >> vendredi !!RLgbKFHhXo1 12/14/10(Tue)03:00 No.13146522
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    Drawfagging takes time, please understand that. Even a "fast" sketch takes 30 minutes at the very least - and that's at the professional level with an idea of what to draw. Hashing out hazy concepts takes quite a bit of time.

    Even the most blazing-fast speedpainters still take around an hour for a given piece. Writing can happen a lot faster if you happen to be particularly inspired.

    Speaking of which, here's a riff on JSCervini's Keter in >>13133070
    Changed a few tablet settings to get a better brush consistency. I figure since it's constantly generating an anti-AT field the Angel would itself have an unstable, always flowing structure, like a ribbon of gold wound into a parody of a man. The "head" is the only constant - it contains the core (in the "mouth" of the face).

    Well, it's either that or try non-Euclidean geometry, oh god...
    >> Guardsman Harry 12/14/10(Tue)03:11 No.13146599
    Well, to tell the truth, once you get up there, a proper sketch or gesture drawing should not really take more than 10 minutes or so. The idea is to get what you're going to make onto the paper and finish it later. Life drawing classes teach you this shit.

    Also, if the thread's around tomorrow around 8 PM CST, I'll take a gander and maybe do a couple takes on some of the Angels. I've got work tomorrow and I need to go ahead and get some sleep in; otherwise I'd do some scribbles tonight.
    >> vendredi !!RLgbKFHhXo1 12/14/10(Tue)03:33 No.13146743
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    Yeah, sketches can get pretty quick when you do have things down, but often i find especially with abstract concepts you have to think for a while before you start actually putting something down.

    Also, a Cathetal based on the idea presented in >>13128106

    Having it just hanging out of thin air seems a little, well, small, so I figured it would probably extend out from the vortex eye of a hurricane system.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)05:50 No.13147392
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    Last bump, hopefully more stuff tomorrow.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)06:41 No.13147713
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    I've seen it before, but damn if that isn't some nice fanart.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:04 No.13147828
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    Mfw the thread is still alive.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:05 No.13147834
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    In fact, why don't I just post decent but obscure Eva art that hasn't been reposted a hundred times?
    The image limit has been bumped up to 150 now right? So I shouldn't squeeze out space for any legitimate Drawfags.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:06 No.13147836
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    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:08 No.13147844
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    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:11 No.13147855
    WHY is Evangelion so popular?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:13 No.13147864
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    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:15 No.13147868

    I...what? Why would anyone even DRAW that?


    Have you ever watched it?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:16 No.13147872
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    Hype, constant marketing, a certain level of relative depth. Not as much as the fans would have you believe, but it's still there. Main characters who aren't the usual stereotypes.
    Oh, and giant robots.

    It was also one of the first to deconstruct the super robot genre, and resulted in a slew of similar deconstructions like RahXephon.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:17 No.13147876
    I watched it.

    The final episodes were crap. And some of the filler episodes were too. And then there were the "End of Evangelion" movies.

    Don't get me wrong, I liked the series overall. It's just... Well. Everyone else I've talked to in person really, really, really does not like it.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:18 No.13147884
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    Posting AdEva fanart in an AdEva thread.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:21 No.13147896
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    What do you think of the Rebuild films?
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:21 No.13147898
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:23 No.13147910
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    Yeah, they're making four films to basically redo the plot again. The first one ends at Ramiel and sticks fairly close to the original anime, while the second has started diverging ENTIRELY.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:24 No.13147912
    Alright. I'll be blunt.

    Until now i've never payed any attention to Adeptus Evangelion, and i found the NGE anime to be overall average.

    But lets say i wanted to play a game that had large robot battles as a theme, would this be any good?
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:25 No.13147919

    They did some fuckawesome shit with Ramiel, god damn.

    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:27 No.13147928
    ...Damn it.

    Well. I haven't watched anime for way too god damn long. Might as well pick this up...Maybe eventually if I can find the will to sniff around for it.

    argh apathy

    But thank you for letting me know.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:30 No.13147943
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    Absolutely. You'd have to do a lot of homebrew work though.

    I keep getting the feeling that Mutants and Masterminds might make a good base for a Super Robot RPG. You'd need to tinker with the damage system, replace bruises with some sort of randomised chart to represent systems going offline, maybe have one for heavier hits, like the kind that result in your mech losing an arm.

    But I've gotten sidetracked. Just give the AdEva PDF's a read through, if you wanted, you could fairly easily make an entire campaign where all of the players are Section 2 agents trying to keep these horribly mentally damaged kids alive.

    Alternatively, you could stat out Godzilla and have the players try to survive/stop him.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:32 No.13147958
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    Nyaatorrents should have something, probably.

    Also, if one of the things that annoyed you about Shinji was his total ineptitude and whiny nature, you will be pleasantly surprised by the end of the second Rebuild movie.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:33 No.13147961
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    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:34 No.13147968
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    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:35 No.13147980
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    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:36 No.13147987
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    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:37 No.13147989
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    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:38 No.13147997
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    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:38 No.13147998
    Y'know? I didn't mind Shinji all that much. He was a bit of a whiner, but it was within the acceptable zone for me. Not to mention I had a lot of warning from folks so I could prepare myself.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:38 No.13148003
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    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:40 No.13148011
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    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)07:40 No.13148016
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    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:42 No.13148026
    You should've used Catasetum, the trebuchet orchid. Flowers of this plant actively launch their pollen on insects passing by, so you'd get an Evangelion that spits caustic blood and explosive redundant organs from every joint. Either that or since pollen is, well, pollen, you'd get a penis Evangelion with caustic semen. Bonus points if its pilot tells the enemy Angel to eat a dick before attacking.

    Drosera is another good choice, which would probably be the Evangelion version of the fourth angel. Tentacles everywhere, except now they're sticky. And if you tried something with kudzu... Well, I want to see a fight where an encroacher tries to take over the kudzu Evangelion but gets itself hijacked instead.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:44 No.13148033
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    well, the Rebuild films exist primarily for two reasons: A) to steal our money again, and B) supposedly to rectify some character traits given Anno's new outlook on life. It's a bit heavier on the mecha action, and somewhat lighter on the characterization (Poor Ritsuko gets the short end of the stick). But really, ambivalence to the series is probably a good indicator of a healthy, well-adjusted individual.

    I, for one, am waiting for BMJ to get started on Anima stuff. Where's my Evangelions IN SPACE?
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:46 No.13148044
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    ... less likely than you'd believe
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:47 No.13148051
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    I sort of like to think of Rebuild as being a deconstruction of the notoriously confusing and batshit insane elements of the earlier series. There's still some heavy, rather unsettling shit going on, but it's not quite entering into "what the fuck am I watching" territory.

    At least, not quite yet. We've still got two movies to go, and Adam only knows how this shit's going to end.

    (I'm secretly hoping for pic related.)
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)07:51 No.13148072
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    That would just be some masterful trolling by Anno if the GL world is what results after third impact.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)08:05 No.13148131
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    And the Angels are the products of the Antispiral?

    Mother of god...
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)08:08 No.13148139
    We should send plenty many cash monies to Gainax and have them do this.

    >Commos out

    That's right, Captcha, we have to get our Commos out and do this!
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)08:08 No.13148142
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    And Lord Genome turns out to have been shinji all along.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)08:12 No.13148161
    Nah. We're going to find out that Adam woke up, told the hybrid to FUCK THE HELL OFF, rewound TIME (because FUCK YOU, FANS, BUY IT ANYWAY) and started making the world again soley for Shinji.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)08:19 No.13148195
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    Why go with that ending when he can ruin TWO anime series with a single blow?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)08:48 No.13148349
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    >Lord Genome turns out to have been shinji all along.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)08:52 No.13148372
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    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)08:54 No.13148378
    >But I've gotten sidetracked. Just give the AdEva PDF's a read through, if you wanted, you could fairly easily make an entire campaign where all of the players are Section 2 agents trying to keep these horribly mentally damaged kids alive.

    I tried something like that with my players for one session. It was awesome, and rather relaxing. Instead of Angels, the worst thing to fear are terrorists, assassins, combat squads from other Nerv outposts (who will remain standing after the angels are gone?), and Seele's Ghosts. Can't forget the Angelspawn either. And maybe a session where a pilot ejects and the group will need to go out in the middle of the Angel fight to recover him/her from the pod.


    Good stuff man.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)08:54 No.13148379
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    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)08:55 No.13148384
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    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)08:56 No.13148391
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    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)08:56 No.13148396
    Wildly off topic but damnit all the everything has gotten to me.

    And upon her Throne of Crowns she sits, the Mother of Man;
    Holding in her right hand the Spear of Truth;
    And in her left the Scales of Judgement.
    And yea, those who look upon her tremble;
    For hers is the divine right;
    And the sacrifice;
    In her the pathway to heaven;
    And before her the kingdom of hell.
    She is the Key to the World;
    And the Lock of its damnation:
    And She has found us wanting.

    This is intended for my Lilith figure, but thought I might share.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)08:59 No.13148405
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    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)09:00 No.13148412
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    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)09:06 No.13148447
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    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)10:54 No.13149323
    Just a suggestion here. If you guys what to add anything in a future supplement about fighting human armies, you should try to adapt the Death Watch horde combat system. Our DM did it that way and it turned out very well.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)11:16 No.13149547
    So here's a question. I've never played Dark Heresey, although I know one guy in our group owns the core book.

    I'm middlingly interested/aware of Evangelion, and I'm sure my brother could fill me in on the minor detail points, as he's a big fan.

    Is one required to understand either to be able to run this well?

    Also, how does Eva combat run in terms of lethality and the like? My group tends to play more like wargamers than roleplayers, so 'whoops, you're instagibbed' won't go over very well, but they can handle being beaten.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/14/10(Tue)11:44 No.13149767

    Good questions, the both of them.

    1) You don't have to be HUGELY familiar with the DH rules to play AdEva, but you do need to have read them enough to figure out the basic mechanics. Pretty much the basics of how character creation and skills work, a few talents that carry over, and how basic combat works.
    Knowledge of the Evangelion setting is, again, not required, but GMs (for obvious reasons) probably should look into it so they have a better idea of what world they are operating in. That said, many GMs throw the normal setting out the window and use a mythology of their choice instead of the normal 'angels'.
    Some would say that the GM knowing Evangelion but the players NOT is actually a good thing, as they know less of the surprises inherently in store.
    "Wait, what do you mean my Mom is in the giant war machine?"
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/14/10(Tue)11:45 No.13149773

    2) The Combat can be brutal, its true. If the dice hate you and/or you make poor decisions, you can easily find your Eva losing its head.
    That said, its FAR easier to survive combat in an Eva than in Personal scale Dark Heresy.
    For example. You Evangelion gets royally fucked up. If it loses its head? You are out of the fight, but your Pilot (the character you actually play) is fine.
    If your Eva is killed by massive damage to the torso? You might be in trouble. But there is always the chance that you eject. Even if you don't eject, there is still only a chance of an entry plug breach. If breached, your pilot takes 1d100 wounds. Keep in mind you usually have about 10-15 health. So Chances are you probably die a terrible death there. Unless you roll very, very lucky.

    And THEN, you character has been killed. Unless you have any Fate Points left. That's right, you can permanently sacrifice a Fate Point (which you get 2-3 of at Character Creation) to automatically and irrevocably go "I survive this, somehow".

    So, as brutal as the combat at the very least you have 2-3 extra lives, and losing those takes terrible luck or having put yourself into a terrible, terrible situation.
    >> Mastermind_Omega 12/14/10(Tue)11:55 No.13149854
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    The horde rules have been looked over and there's work going on involving how Conventional Forces are handled.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)12:14 No.13149976

    Another bit here: When I asked the Dark Heresey player if I could borrow his book, he mentioned that there are other books for higher power levels? Do I need any of these for AdEva?
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)12:19 No.13150007
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    I Am.

    By command of He that is named I Am, I have come.

    Though my feet may trod upon the Base Earth on this Blessed Quest, I have come.

    I am the Knight of God. He who has trampled upon the face of evil.

    My blade burns with righteousness - my lance I have taken from thee.

    Thy weapons thou hast forged in my image. I shall cast down these craven idols.

    Many of my brethren have fallen before you. I fall before none save The Lord.

    I am thy final test.

    I Am He Who Is Like God.

    Archangel of Heaven. Commander of the Heavenly Hosts.

    I am Micheal.

    I have come.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 12/14/10(Tue)12:23 No.13150038

    Nope. Core Dark Heresy book only.

    Some devs kept trying to sneak in talents or rules from the other books, but I'd rather not have new players have to go out and find 2-3 extra books for a combine total of 1 and a half pages.

    So just the core book will do fine.
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    Hell, you don't even really need the Dark Heresy book, as long as you have a core book from ONE of FFG's 40k RPG's then you can make do just fine.

    I mean, I only have the Deathwatch book, and so far I've encountered no problems.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)12:27 No.13150064

    To be fair, dark heresy has better equipment you can steal if you want to base a game 15 minutes into the future. Rogue Trader's items are pretty wacky, and deathwatch is just plain NO. Other then that, yeah they're all pretty much the same.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)12:36 No.13150123

    Ah, good to hear. Also, due to the fact that nobody is going to call me on it if I modify the Eva setting a little bit, would something similar to the various WEAPONS from FF7 be decent Angel analogues? I'm trying to think about how stuff works and how to phrase it, and I don't want to have to pull out the Big Book of Lovecraft to come up with stuff.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)13:42 No.13150606
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    The mecha anime nerd in me demands that I explain that that image isn't Gurren Lagann as an evangelion at all. It's Gaogaigar. It has drills on its knees (mecha had drills on them before TTGL, hard as that is to believe), it's primarily black, and not primarily red, and the color and shape of the shoulders are a pretty dead giveaway. The head and chestplate have been altered, but are still reminiscent of Gaogaigar.

    Image related for reference. Sorry for taking up an image space and being a total nerd, but eh. Kind of bugs me when people get their references wrong, and I think that image is consistently mislabeled. It's Gaogaigelion.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)13:45 No.13150625

    Shit bugs the fuck out of me too, I was going to mention it if you didn't.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)13:50 No.13150658
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    Fair enough, but come on: You see a something from Gainax with drills, you're first instinct is going to be Gurren Laggan.

    Alternatively, it's entirely possible that this is some guy's homebrew fanart. Those shoulders don't seem to fit in with anything.


    Stuff from the Deathwatch armory no. Stuff like the horde rules, maybe some sort of adaptation of the squad cohrency mechanic? Very yes.


    Yes, describing them as FF7 style weapons would work. Although Weapons from FF7 never had the capacity for subtlety that the Angels had.

    As for Lovecraftian imagery: Lovecraft works well crossed over with anything, Evangelion ESPECIALLY.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)13:57 No.13150716
    I can see what you mean, about thinking Gurenn lagann first. Don't blame anyone, really. And it may indeed be fanart from who knows where. It definitely feels like a gaogaigar reference, whatever the case. A very subtle one, but it's there.

    As for the rest, going to throw in my two cents that FF&7's WEAPONs reminded me a good bit of angels, at least in terms of appearance. Notably diamond Weapon, or whichever was the one you fought on its way to Midgar. It even had a red, spherical core.

    Mixing Lovecraft and Evangelion? Well, first, it does work nicely. Second, you can't manage it any worse than the Cthulhutech guys did, so why not?
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)14:02 No.13150747
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    Ever read Children of an Elder God?

    Aside from being in dire need of an ending, it's a damn good read.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)14:02 No.13150748

    Yeah, I read Cthulutech as 'Let's play Evas FUCK YEAR', then kinda went to 'wait, I don't think I can run this well at all' after reading everything. Was debating setting swapping out an 'Alpha Centauri vs. Progenitor aliens' feel for things. I don't like it when things get rapey for rapeys sake.


    Yeah, I'm trying to think of things that I can use for comparison for my players. I'm a natural morning person, so when I DM at night I need to make extensive use of notes and pre-written down segments to prevent 'the dragon rears back and screeches in hate at your party, bathing all of you in searing flames' from becoming 'It does...that thing again...with the fire damage'.
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 12/14/10(Tue)14:07 No.13150779
    Actually, both that and >>13147961 are from games on the IRC. Granted, both of said games have died, but what can you do.
    >> I apologised on 4chan !!857o4GkKJgy 12/14/10(Tue)14:08 No.13150791
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    I've got a lot of time for the Migo as a concept, but I've yet to see anyone really do them right.
    Cthulhutech had some interesting ideas, but never quite managed to make them click.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)14:14 No.13150836
    Never had, but I've seen it recommended before.

    Ctech's ok, but it's not the greatest. I do like the tagers, though. So my group's playing with them. Then again, we also do the sensible thing and ignore most of the fluff and just do what we like with the setting. But, this thread isn't about that game/system.

    It's about Ad Eva. And with that in mind, one idea I've had before that would be fun for it would be to adapt it for running a Betterman game. Which is a lot toward generic giant mecha again, but hey. It's also much more standard Dark Heresy personal sale investigation.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)14:41 No.13151036
    I want a plush Sachiel... He's so ugly he's cute.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)15:13 No.13151273
    Children of an Elder God is finished. The final chapter is posted on spacebattles forums, IIRC. It can be found through TVTropes, or through google.
    >> Anonymous 12/14/10(Tue)15:21 No.13151337
    Here are links at first and second parts of a final chapter.
    >> vendredi !!RLgbKFHhXo1 12/14/10(Tue)16:49 No.13152045
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    Galgaliel concept. Live on thread, live on!

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