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    524 KB Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:11 No.13254364  
    Hey does anyone remember this;


    Basically in which, in the group there was a female paladin acting up the whole chivalrous knight routine, and when the guy became her husband she started beating him? That is, she viewed and treated him as precious and in need of defending, and could never leave the house.

    We went on to discuss how, this was simply unacceptable and something needed to be done about her and her crazy ideals. In the end, the general consensus was to intervene in a big damn hero moment and save the day thereby proving his usefulness.

    Anyone remember that?
    >> Gilgamesh, King of Heroes !EnkiduOJiw!!fXOkC1tdv81 12/22/10(Wed)16:12 No.13254369
    >Anyone remember that?

    Yes. Someone made some pretty awesome writefaggin' about it too.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:14 No.13254386
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    Yeah well you know what?

    I love you, that was the best advice ever.

    People said they wanted an update? Here's the update;

    My character tried and trained to become his best, got the help and favors of old friends, and saved the day like a big damn hero. Then when that didn't work, and he was chained and locked away in a tower and tortured, he snapped asunder and broke the paladin's heart.

    So yeah, the guy that said become the hero and win her over can go to heaven. The plan worked too well.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:15 No.13254401

    Yeah I saw that, it was real cool. Shame they couldn't continue it due to lack of info though.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:18 No.13254420
    Glad to know it worked out for you. More details may be required on how he broke her heart.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:19 No.13254429
    I don't but that sure is fucking hilarious.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)16:24 No.13254475

    ...that's more depressing than what I wrote. Well, I guess if you liked how it worked out...
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:33 No.13254595
    Someone obviously needs to slap that bitch and remind her where she belongs.
    (hint: it starts with a k and ends with "itchen")


    I jest, of course, but seriously - that kind of chivalrous bullshit rarely works if the character is MALE, much less if it's a female. Has nobody gotten annoyed by her view of men? Overdone chivalrous men get reminded that some women are actually strong and self-reliant all the time, why does that not happen here?
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:38 No.13254650
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    I guess I'll just post using images I can find on this computer. Some of them are relevant, but allot of them aren't.


    Anyway so the last time there was a thread, I detailed how my character was shotgunned wedding-d with the groups paladin, who was done up like a chivalrous knight, but in reverse. That is, she treated men as the fairer sex and acted chivalrously towards them and believed they needed protecting.

    Well during the adventuring our characters were in love to the point where the paladin more or less discarded her beliefs, and they did everything together.

    However when they were forced married due to a mistake, she suddenly went 180 and staunchly returned to her beliefs, and had my character confined to the home and not allowed to leave or do anything dangerous.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:43 No.13254711
    Why did you let her do that?
    Seriously. Was she the strongest fighter in the realm?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:45 No.13254744
    Not OP, but you should glance through the archived thread if you have any questions.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:46 No.13254745
    Yes, she was stronger then the rest of the party.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:46 No.13254755
    Yeah dude read the archived threads. They were pretty cool.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:47 No.13254759
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    Pic related = My hero


    Well in this scenario, her character actually is very strong, the strongest in the group, so she can more or less get away with it.


    Anyway so, with my character out of the limelight afforded the rest of the group, it basically meant character death, as he'd no longer be part of the story. However I really liked him, and wanted ways to work out of the predicament. /tg/ suggested a myriad of neat ways to break free, ranging from running away forever, to sleeping with the party bard. In general though, the overall consensus was to train in my characters free time, and to stage an intervention.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)16:55 No.13254876

    By the way, if OP fills in the missing info, I'll definitely continue the writefaggotry.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:57 No.13254905
    Still gonna make the main character Gabranth?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)16:59 No.13254940
    Scored several Ulric's Fury (or furry) on a keg and now my character is dubbed "Kegsplitter"
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)17:00 No.13254959
    ...Wat? I think you misposted dude.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)17:00 No.13254962

    My version of Martin won't really resemble Gabranth too much except for some moves and the armor.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)17:01 No.13254977
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    Hahahah! I like Canaan!


    I approached the DM like people suggested (out of all the advice given I believe this was the best, really, talking to the DM about it helped everything), and tried to figure out how to work around the problem.

    At first I got my guy to try actual training for things like strength, without the other servants in the house knowing (lest the tell the lady of the house). The problem was, that as much as my guy could or wanted to train, it wasn't nearly enough to compare to the amount the others (namely the paladin) gained/leveled by actual leveling. So that was that plan kaput nor even a significant amount of time after it began.

    Another option that was much more viable was to contact old allies and hire mercenaries to assist in saving the day for the party when and if they got overwhelmed. This proved to be much better and manageable, and before long I got something of a small army of capable bodies.

    Not everyone I wanted mind you, the two at the top of the list were busy or taken by the party, but most everyone was available at requesting the DM.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)17:02 No.13254987
    Just messin' with you man, you're writefaggotry's pretty good. Too bad it sounds like OP's char. had a bad end. :(
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)17:09 No.13255090
    Fuck, I have to go. Hoping this thread'll be done when I get back.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)17:18 No.13255208
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    So after lots of careful planning and organizing which was still quite difficult (the fucking head maid is a real bitch), my guy had everything ready, so now it was just to keep the paladin in the dark and out of my pants, and play the waiting game. Which didn't take too long thanks to the DM, and the reckless actions of the party bard.

    So when it looked to be about the right time, me and my own little NPC party rode out. Sure I was going to be in big trouble with my wife, probably a beating, but hey... I was going to save the day!
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)17:31 No.13255382
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    So with the DM's help our little group basically tracked the party for a few days waiting for trouble to overtake them. Luckily it took less time than for word to reach the paladin that my guy had left the house, and thanks to the bard they were knee deep in likely TPK.

    And then boom, over the hill on horses and carts and shit, we rode like the Light Brigade, except successful.

    We shit kicked them orkoids like a collection of ugly asses. And there my dude is standing on top of a big pile with the sun behind him and looking like an awesome Tager lookin' motherfucker. But... that just made him more of a target.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)17:42 No.13255539
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    Despite the DM being a huge help, I have a feeling that his sort of orchestrated but anyway so the guy's looking like the hero and the group is all sparkle-eyed at seeing their bro again. Maybe even the paladin, but it was short-lived.

    The orkoid leader decided to show up and was pissed all his army was being decimated, and attacked the person he deemed most responsible, IE the guy looking like he saved the day.

    He charged up the pile of KO'd/dead shlubs, and crit-ed my guy in the back. And then the fight started.

    My character could hold his own, but it was a losing battle (a boss enemy appropriate for the group, who had been leveling while I hadn't), and if it weren't for the intervention of the paladin (most apt to drop her fight and storm through, because she had the most to lose), my guy would be dead.

    Thankfully though he just got unconscious-made.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)17:56 No.13255710
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    The battle was won though, and after my guy got taken care of, he woke up to the celebrations of the party (it was pretty much the battle to wrap up the quest/arc). Oddly enough the paladin was absent, so it was actually nice and great-like. It was later that night though that she decided to make an appearance, and it wasn't pleasant.

    While most everyone took it as a good sign, she used it as the prime example of why my character shouldn't be out. If it weren't for her then I'd be dead.

    While I had done everything right and effectively saved the day, and helped everyone and shit, it had more or less the reverse intended effect on the paladin which was all that was supposed to matter.

    She couldn't take out her anger on my guy because of his state, but she made clear that if she couldn't keep him safe as it was and he wouldn't obey her, then she was going to remove the danger from the equation altogether, and he was going to be locked in a tower for the rest of his days.

    Needless to say I was worried. I would have preferred a savage beating.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:01 No.13255805
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    So once things quieted down, she took him back home, and quite literally chained him up and locked him in the attic till she could figure out what to do with him, having the maids feed him and stuff so she wouldn't have any interaction.

    At this point, despite all the cool stuff he'd done and the events to transpire, I figured this was it, my characters ending was him chained away in the attic of the family estate out of sight, out of mind, and I'd be stuck playing the fagballs new character.

    But no, she maintained that because my level of action had been so great, a necessary reaction was required. My character might have met his end, but not yet.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:05 No.13255845
    >I love you, that was the best advice ever.


    >he snapped asunder and broke the paladin's heart.

    Wait, wut?
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)18:07 No.13255877

    I do not like this paladin, Sam I Am.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:08 No.13255891
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    It didn't happen until about a week later, but when it did it was violent and abrupt. I was able to ascertain that some guests had arrived, given the hurried nature of the servants. Just who though, wasn't clear.

    About that same day I believe, in come several knights heavily armored head to toe in thick plate. They drag my guy down to the basement (where one of the old cells had been cleared out, probably beforehand). I figure something bad's about to go down, and though it did but not in the way I imagined.

    My guy is sat at a table in the dim light, with the knights standing about, and one of them begins the conversation. Her voice gives it away, and I realize these are all knights of the order. Either my guy's wife summoned them, or they decided to intervene when they found out what happened, but either way here they were now, and they were scary ass hell.

    So began the interrogation.
    >> Devilist 12/22/10(Wed)18:12 No.13255937
    >Anyone remember that?
    Yes, unfortunately. Wish I didn't.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:13 No.13255953
    Sounds like their "paladin" status is about to be called into serious question.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:16 No.13255985
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    If anyone's read 1984, where they try to convince the guy that 1+1=3 through torture and brainwashing, it was basically like that, with my guy and these knights. Like I said, I believe that the DM had orchestrated this early on, to have the scenario pan out like this for the most drama.


    So they talked about the stuff he had done, how it was unacceptable, and how harsher punishments should have been doled.

    I said that was bullshit and that I wasn't some girly-boy to be chained beneath a bunch of women and my wife, while the majority of society went on normal-like.

    They compared how much more capable my wife was, and made clear that in marrying her, I married into the Order as well. My life and It were one and the same now.

    So it pretty much just degraded from there, because of my constant denials and refusals, they eventually became less and less civil, and resorted to more aggressive interrogation, torture even.

    I later learned that my wife had been just outside the door huddled over crying, trying her best to keep herself from breaking in and killing them all for treating me poorly. Not sure if that counts for anything.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:19 No.13256009
    >Their version of chivalry includes torturing the lesser sex for wanting to have some freedom.

    Et tu, Brute? Then Fall paladin!
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:25 No.13256077
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    I believe I should mention, that despite all the other threads and the images posted to related, I've never really made the degree of appearance the knights of the order have. Like there have been pics of armored women and stuff, but it's allot more like pic related. They're mostly hardened soldiers, and covered in thick solid armor, you can't tell by looking that they're women. That's sort of the whole point I guess. Much the same with the paladin, as with the rest of them, you can't tell their gender until they speak.

    So yeah, it's not so much a chick in armor that fits more to her form, so much as walking tanks of metal, and deep down somewhere underneath is a woman.


    Anyway so yeah, my guy was going against the order, it's ways, my wife, their rules, all sorts of other shit, and by effect the will of God.

    In most if not all other cases, such a case would be deemed as simple heresy or demonic possession or whatever (something that the Order genuinely deals with regularly, actual demons and shit like that). Though because of my wife's status, they were to take a lighter hand. It was made clear though, that I was not the first to be like this, and there were many other cases such as mine for them to deal with, and it was usually the same way.

    So they eventually resorted to torturing and violent interrogation and such, to get clear the message and me to accept it. In this case it wasn't so much my stubborn refusal of their rules, so much as my opposition to God that they were punishing.

    Nothing to inflict serious body harm, but it wasn't all sunshine and lollipops and rainbows.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:29 No.13256113
    She was crying outside the door? It means that she's torn between you and the order's actions. It's a start.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:31 No.13256139
    Just out of curiosity, what kind of torture? Did they just rough you up with their fists? Or did they use tools?
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:35 No.13256187
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    Just to point out, they're not as evil looking or anything, but around or above that level of armor, is the idea.


    As an aside, I'd like to note that I had at least considered something like this, and so had more or less a working plan for any such situations. As some people suggested, breaking down would have a desired effect in the long run.

    I suppose the DM had something of a similar idea too though, because the further and further things got, I had to make rolls and saves for "sanity damage" or fortitude or whatever. So while I had intended to play along with things for story and drama, it was turning out that my character himself was actually breaking down as a result.

    And so by the end my guy was brought to a diminished heap of murmuring about compliance to the Order and deliriously crying for his wife. He had already been stripped by now, and it was about at this time they branded him.

    On the left side of the chest, the symbol of the order superimposed over a big cross. To demonstrate, I belonged to (or more actually was property of, I believe) the Order. So at last I had been broken down, like a horse. Now my guy needed to be broken in.

    And that was where my wife came in.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)18:37 No.13256214

    My rage is palpable.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:37 No.13256220
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:38 No.13256226
    At this point, I think it counts as rape.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:39 No.13256234
    Man, I don't care if this really happened or not. I'm at the edge of my seat hoping that the chick does the right thing.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:41 No.13256259
    Oh, so that does end up happening, after all.

    The Bard must be having a "just as planned" moment.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:50 No.13256341
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    And so, they summoned my wife, who tried her hardest possible not to keep crying at the sight of her husband a broken crying mess, delirious and crawling towards her for help.

    They made clear what needed to be done, although I assume they had beforehand, but just to reassure her. And so they left, and my guy was holding onto her leg like a scared child. By now he couldn't tell which way was up, and barely in his right mind. He was just broken down and bleeding, a world of pain and his wife was the only familiar thing to offer safety from it all.

    She maintained a stoic demeanor throughout though and simply went through the motions. Which were, to throw him off her and remove any leftover tatters of clothing on my guy and hold him down. She was wearing a formal robe but did not need to take anything off, she could do what she needed in what she was wearing.

    And so to my horror, she proceeded to make love to my character, holding down his broken shaking form against his pleading to stop. All the while she just kept a straight face, and only replied that "It's for your own good." and "Don't fight."

    And so that was how their love was expressed, their marriage consummated. Forcibly, after torture in a filthy dungeon, with as little love as possible, if any.

    Apparently this was the response deemed necessary by the Order representatives, after my guy had been broken down and convinced of his inferiority and dependence. And it worked. By the end, my character took enough sanity damage and was basically a vegetable, just lying there shaking till she felt she had done what was required, and even after that, when she left and convened with the others waiting outside.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)18:59 No.13256427
    So... "paladins", you say, did this?

    Is your campaign using some sort of highly nonstandard alignment setup?
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)19:00 No.13256444


    Oh, I don't think I'm up to writing a happy ending now. No, sir.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:01 No.13256455
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    Well, seeing that they are women in a position of power I see nothing out of ordinary here.
    >> Gilgamesh, King of Heroes !EnkiduOJiw!!fXOkC1tdv81 12/22/10(Wed)19:01 No.13256456
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    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:01 No.13256459
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    Beatings as well as other nasty somethings and others. Nothing like the rack or iron maiden, but lashes sure.

    It is important to note, that these were the equivalents of the Orders inquisition, hence the heavy handed response. Normally no such measures would be taken, and my wife only contacted them about seeking assistance on what to do. But because mine was a persistent problem, and the wife was an important member, they sent the inquisition without my wife's knowledge.

    She thought it was just some friends, or even other men, to help her convince me, but one day the knights showed up, and she couldn't really do anything after that, they just took over the situation and told her what to do. She knew things were bad the moment they arrived, but it was out of her control by then.


    Yes, if it's any coincidence, the Bard wrote a poem/song to commemorate the event, which she learned the details of from the paladins squire.

    She calls it "Recompense for the Rebel" and likes to sing and dance it when the paladin isn't around.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:02 No.13256462
    Use my standard bad ending then.

    Broly, he destroys the planet. The end.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:03 No.13256481
    This has better end with some Griffith-levels going insane from torture and making pacts with demons.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:05 No.13256494
    At this point, my reaction as a player- assuming that I wanted to stick it out- would be to say that the sanity damage has split my character's personality.

    He now has a "protector" personality which emerges whenever anyone in the order- or even resembling them- is nearby and acting in an official-ish capacity. It is extremely subservient in its actions and just takes it whenever abuse is heaped upon him until the people who hurt go away.

    The other is the person who married the paladin originally and could never have believed that she'd do that to him, and has no memory of it. It's out most of the time, except of course that whenever there's any indication that he's in danger the other personality will grab it by the neck and lock it inside his head to keep it safe and and happy and still loving the paladin.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:06 No.13256498
    Most excellent, OP. At first, your opening statements made me worry about what had transpired, but now that you've thoroughly explained what has transpired thus far, it seems to me that the DM is setting up the Order to be the BBEG with this moral event horizon. I was a big supporter of that idea in the last thread.

    Unfortunately, what happens from here is pretty much entirely out of your hands and in the Paladin's with outcomes varying greatly. At worse, with a seemingly high probably of occuring, she remains overall unchanged by the ordeal and lets the status quo continue, bringing the plot to a halt and making your character entirely hopeless. What I'm hoping for, though, is that your torture becomes the turning point for the Paladin to finally oppose the Order, which can work in two main ways. On one hand, she can take you and flee, undoubtedly triggering a relentless hunt by the Order when one of their own goes rogue. This would eventually lead to the other path where the Paladin takes the fight to the Order itself. Along the way, she can find some way to make you better, if possible.

    Do continue pestering your DM on this matter, as it's pretty much the only thing you can do, at this point. He, in turn, will manipulate the scenario and guide the Paladin toward making the right decision that will lead toward awesomeness for everyone involved. This story shall not go to waste!

    Also, the Bard needs to be punched in the ovaries extra hard now.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:07 No.13256510
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    Well like I said, things were never supposed to go this far.

    It just ended up that the actual legit evil members of the Order got involved. Evil members who still serve God, but do horrible things and are usually tasked with things like burning heretics and combating demons.

    They showed up when the paladin expected priests or friends, and at that moment she knew things were fucked. If she didn't obey them, they'd just kill everyone in the household and claim demon taint, or whatever reason they pleased.

    It is of course important to note, that these individuals are few in number, and kept largely separate from the dealings and locations of the Order. They're the ugly head that comes rearing when ugly work needs doing.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)19:08 No.13256520
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    There is only one thing to do now.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:17 No.13256582

    Those fuckers need to DIE. Make that a future objective: Hunt down the whores that did this to me, and kill the shit out of them.

    Also, consider shifting alignment to Chaotic Evil. After what you went throgh, going crazy is understandable. Going violently crazy is awesome.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:19 No.13256605
    THIS. Alignment shift to CE, but keep up the charade.

    And let the shit hit the fan at the right moment.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)19:20 No.13256611

    Agreed. Brimstone and hellfire for all.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:21 No.13256614
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    As a side note, up until that point, my character and the paladin hadn't actually had sex, despite being in love for a time before, and being married for a time until.

    My guy's reasoning was that he didn't want her to get pregnant, lest he be then made to stay home and raise the kids, aka total permanent character death.

    Her reasoning, made clear in passing, was that she didn't want to injure my guy in the act, due to the significant strength differences. Which as it turned out was a valid concern, because during that first time she fractured his spine. I'm not sure if it was because he was between her and stone floor (perhaps a bed would wield different?), but though he received medical attention after, it left a lasting impression.


    So with that, my guy had been broken down by the inquisitors, broken in by his wife, branded and made subservient property of the Order.

    For them at least, job well done. After my guy's wife finished up with him, she left to convene with the others, I image to discuss the situation from there and assure her it was the right course of action, as well as congratulate her and hoping for a successful conception, all that stuff.

    Meanwhile my guy was left used and lying broken physically, emotionally, and mentally by the love of his life in the dungeon of his own house.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:23 No.13256633
    I think by this point there is only one thing left to do.
    Ask another player to intervene, someone you have been friends with for fucking years who's PC would object to this seriously; have them save you, deprogramme you and get you back on your feet somewhere safe, if they can do this, you still have a chance, otherwise...well...PC is fucked.
    After that...shit seriously needs to go down.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)19:30 No.13256701

    God damn it, this is pissing me off. It's always been a weakness, I guess, to take these things too seriously...but I can't just sit here. No. This shan't go unpunished.
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    It wasn't his wife that took care of him after, rather the maids that cleaned him up and got him medical attention, taking care of him till he was capable of moving about.

    Not that it made a difference though, he just laid in bed all day not moving or responding to anyone, or eating or drinking. It was at the orders of the lady of the house, his wife, that they force feed/drink him when they went to her informing her of the situation and that he would die if not seen to.

    Unfortunately, a few days later the paladin left to return to the party and continue on. And the whole time she had not seen or visited my character once. Although, that was probably for the best.

    During that time and after, it was just that maids that kept him company and tried to help him however they could. Dressing him or taking him for walks, etc...

    Even the head maid seemed sympathetic to his situation.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:30 No.13256708
    I'd like to point out something. Now, this thread seems fairly civil and on tracks.
    ...But what would the thread be looking like right now if the genders in the story were reversed?

    Gentlemen, I present you: Double Standards.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:32 No.13256725
    Oh, we know it. It has been pointed out a couple times that if a male paladin treated a woman like this, his ass would fall down to Lawful Neutral so fast he'd think he jumped off a cliff.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:33 No.13256732
    And this is why chivalry's death is a good death.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:33 No.13256735
    Wait... She just goes off adventuring again?

    But.... my awesome fight-the-Order plan...

    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:34 No.13256748
    If this was someone's story about their female PC falling in love with another PC they knew was a little misogynistic but they thought had gotten past that, then marrying them and getting locked up, tortured, and raped... I'd be raging pretty much exactly this hard.

    Can't speak for how the thread would look, obviously, but my reaction would be mostly the same.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:36 No.13256773
    You need your guy to come out of his broken state, tricking the maids as his strength returns, and grows, fueled by hate and spite.

    Eventually exploding out from himself murdering the servants who let it all happen, and track down tht bitch who used to be his wife. :D
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:36 No.13256774
    But now is the perfect opportunity to unsleash the BLOOD AND CHAOS. It's not like he's a Level 1 Commoner, and who's at the house? A bunch of maids.

    Seriously, this is like the most perfect excuse and opportunity ever to play CE.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:38 No.13256793
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    During the time the paladin was away, the maids did a fairly good job of helping my guy (his characterization was more or less out of my control, his sanity was destroyed and wasn't recovering).

    That is, he didn't remain in bed like in a coma. He still needed to be fed and dressed and taken to the bathroom, but they didn't need to lead him around by the hand all the time anymore. After seeing that he was alright, they could just let him go and he'd wander around while they could work.

    They might need to let him out if he was stuck at a door, or take a break to find him when he got lost or fell down stairs or something, but in general it was life as usual in the estate, with the addition of a somewhat needy yet docile housecat, if you will.

    He still didn't respond to anyone though, and they often found him rocking or crying in corners. All in all it was deliciously tragic to witness, the paladin had left thinking things would be alright and back to normal.

    She regretted it to no end, spending the whole time adventuring only halfheartedly and grieving, barely leaving her room/tent. Still though she assumed that this was a bump in the road so to speak, and once she got back she'd find a Stepford Husband, as the various members of the Order had told her.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:39 No.13256802
    There is only one problem. As far was we know know, he's broken. The fact that his wife, the supposed love of his life, had him tortured to force him to her will, and then violently raped him kinda did a toll on his mind.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:40 No.13256811
    I swear, when she comes back and sees that you really aren't any better, she better have a fucking breakdown.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:41 No.13256814
    >kinda did a toll on his mind.

    Go insane, recieve CE
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:41 No.13256816
    F5 with the fury of a thousand suns.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:41 No.13256825
    That requires that he have mind left to go insane with.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)19:42 No.13256833
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    My sustenance is...true HATRED.

    Alternate route: decide in the long run that even they are unworthy to uphold the order. They are imperfect. They are flawed. They are hypocrites.

    Even they sin.

    Decide they must be removed. You will judge them.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:44 No.13256854
    And furthermore, NO, don't just throw yourself into CE! It'll be the true death of your character, and you'll destroy any possibility for a good ending to still come out of this!
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:44 No.13256856
    Learn houses layout, Barricade, Set up maid corpses as traps, Trap female paladin, torture, rape and kill
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:45 No.13256862
    But massive amounts of slaughter IS the good ending!
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:46 No.13256874
    If the campaign consisted of mostly herping and derping around, sure, but this is too much serious business.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:47 No.13256892
    this actually seems to be one of the few times it is okay to go full crazy.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:50 No.13256917
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    When she got another downtime break from adventuring, she returned and it was beautiful.

    Basically the maids had to "reintroduce" my character to the paladin like he was a puppy or something getting to know a stranger. She returned one day, and without wait ran looking for him happily, finding him pressing keys on a piano, and ran up and hugged him. He didn't notice until it happened, and immediately he started shrieking and crying, fighting his hardest to get away till he fell from her arms and crawled backwards away shaking till he hit the wall and curled up in a ball.

    After that she took a little more care, and so would be at one end of a room or garden and have the maids bring my guy in. He'd be trying to run or pull away though, whining and crying, but made to be there or interact with the paladin.

    After about a week, it was at the point at least where he could be left with her and not run away. Though he still tried to avoid such situations and had to be forced there in the first place. And in general, he started shaking violently when she was around, and whined and drew away from touching.

    At first arriving she was high-spirited and happy to see him. But when she began to realize overtime that he wasn't playing a game or pretending, that he was really like this, it progressively had an effect on her.

    In trying to confide with the head maid, even she made clear to the paladin that it was a mistake to go this far as she had done.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:52 No.13256931
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:53 No.13256943
    >Pally returns home.
    >Finds husband has barricaded himself in some room.
    >Pally forces way in.
    >Moment of clarity when his eyes meet hers
    >PC goes insane, starts screaming and screaming and screaming

    How's that for a Stepford Husband?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:53 No.13256945
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    It still hasn't hit her yet that she done goofed?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:54 No.13256957


    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:55 No.13256971

    Ah, I see reality is as glorious as my dreams. :3
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:56 No.13256984
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    Man, I know this is what she deserves, but dear God is it depressing to read.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)19:57 No.13256986
    Me thinks her submissiveness to the Order is even deeper than that of the ideal husband.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:00 No.13257032
    I'm on the edge of my seat here.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:02 No.13257048
    Sounds like real chivalry then.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:02 No.13257049
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    Well, OP did say she was a relatively high-ranking/important member, so it may be a little harder than most to deprogram.

    Pic related: paladin's face at this moment.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:03 No.13257063
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    Eventually the two were left to dinner one night, and talking of things that had happened in the world or adventuring (more or less talking to herself, my guy neither said nor responded to her at all, just looking at a patch on the floor or something) though of note she would talk or ask questions or laugh to herself at something funny but at no response she would sigh or get a pained look (with the despair increasingly showing on her face), she felt things had gotten to the point where she could try to move further along once more. After all, they had been past that specific point before.

    So after dinner and her talking was done, she carried him to the bedroom, carefully undressed him and tried to make love again. She approached it entirely differently, trying to take things slowly so he was comfortable, as well as try to make it passionate/pleasurable. Still though the response was the same, she could put her all into it as much as she wanted, but my guy just lay there with a dead look in his eyes, crying silently and shaking. And of course right there was the great big brand mark on his chest staring her in the face, still not fully healed and an endless reminder of what she had done.

    She did what she wanted then put him to bed with her, doing everything she could for the past few weeks to shower him with love and compassion, culminating at this moment as she held him in her arms and drifted to sleep. Plagued by nightmares she was though.

    And he did not sleep at all.
    >> [Ag] Corp. Shot !H508X.HbJ6 12/22/10(Wed)20:03 No.13257064
    This shit is sad, yo.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:05 No.13257087
    this is delicious
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:08 No.13257118
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    I can't help but be both horrified and jealous about your group's set up. As a DM, I'd have been very much 'haha what the fuck no' about the time that the paladin wants to chain him to the wall. On the other hand, I'm impressed that you guys could take this along this far without group implosion.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:08 No.13257120
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    It was at this point one of evil paladins who'd done this to him was passing by the town due to chance, alone. She thought she might come by and check out how her work had gone.

    Upon seeing the situation, she murmured that normally the man was better by this point, like a 50s housewife. She admitted they might have gone a little too far.

    My wife of course freaks out and asks who she is to do something like this to him.

    "We're the Aristocrats."
    >> Gilgamesh, King of Heroes !EnkiduOJiw!!fXOkC1tdv81 12/22/10(Wed)20:09 No.13257123
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    >So after dinner and her talking was done, she carried him to the bedroom, carefully undressed him and tried to make love again. She approached it entirely differently, trying to take things slowly so he was comfortable, as well as try to make it passionate/pleasurable. Still though the response was the same, she could put her all into it as much as she wanted, but my guy just lay there with a dead look in his eyes, crying silently and shaking. And of course right there was the great big brand mark on his chest staring her in the face, still not fully healed and an endless reminder of what she had done.



    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:09 No.13257129
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:11 No.13257145
    Congratulations, /tg/ officially hates you.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:11 No.13257149
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    >> [Ag] Corp. Shot !H508X.HbJ6 12/22/10(Wed)20:11 No.13257152
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)20:11 No.13257155


    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:12 No.13257160
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    I believe the Paladin has just been told...
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:12 No.13257162
    >She did what she wanted then put him to bed with her
    She actually fucked him again, when she had broken him that severely and knew exactly what she'd done? What the fuck is going through her mind at that point, "Well, I broke him pretty badly, but he's at least still good for this"?

    The rest of her actions thus far have mostly been screwy but mostly understandable, but that is fucking SICK. Bitch must die.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:13 No.13257177
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    >> [Ag] Corp. Shot !H508X.HbJ6 12/22/10(Wed)20:14 No.13257184
    the first and only time that I've supported the DM stating that the paladin falls.

    And he doesn't.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:15 No.13257192
    I think it's more of her naivety in believing that loving sex could make up for what she did wrong and make everything better. Probably something that can be blamed on her 100% Order upbringing.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:15 No.13257193
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    Well, goddamnit
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:17 No.13257211
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    I must know. Has this been the plan the entire time, or did you deviate into this at some point when the paladin player become reasonable?
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:17 No.13257218
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    From that moment on she made it a point to take care of him herself, dressing him, feeding him, washing him and taking him to the bathroom, walking him and carrying him down stairs. She may have even made love to him once more while washing with him, but that scene was vague so I can't be sure.

    Not that it mattered though, I wasn't even really playing the character anymore. As stated, his sanity was destroyed.

    Despite her best attempts, nothing was changing, and now even more than before she was losing heart and hope. She prayed more often, spoke and slept less, regarded things with lessened interest, other than her extreme focus on her husband and trying to fix together his pieces.

    Eventually it came to fruition during a walk through the gardens one day. She took him to sit with her beneath oak where they first kissed. She laid him down on her lap, stroking his hair and looking across the rows of pretty plants, talking about this and that. Eventually it just came to silence, which after several minutes she broke.

    She had become too desperate, and broke down asking me what could still be wrong, begging me to respond or tell her, pleading that she would do anything and everything she could just to make things the way they once were. She drew my guy close to her and begged.

    That fucking DM, right then and there, he made my guy regain a point or so of sanity, enough that I could have some effect on what he did. But I already knew my answer.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:18 No.13257231

    This anon just posted

    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:18 No.13257235
    By the gods.

    We've been trolled hard.

    Somehow I saw this coming with the setup being way too perfectly crafted for /tg/.
    >> No Man 12/22/10(Wed)20:19 No.13257239
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    Pic related, you magnificent bastard.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:19 No.13257247
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    Oh man, do I have to put on a trip now?

    I really don't want to.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:19 No.13257250
    And the dead-eyed shaking and whimpering while she pawed at him didn't tip her off that it wasn't going to work? Loving sex was actively failing to produce any positive response, so she decided to ride him while he sat there and silently cried, thinking that it would somehow HELP?

    No, no one is that naive. Unless she's got a Wisdom score of around six, she can't possibly be that stupid, either. She knew what she was doing, knew that it wouldn't help, and did it anyway.

    Bitch must die.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:20 No.13257254
    Disregard that, in the future consider a tripcode while storytiming.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:20 No.13257264
    Oi! Faggot! Shut the fuck up until the story's over!
    >> No Man 12/22/10(Wed)20:21 No.13257275
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    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:22 No.13257284
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    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:22 No.13257288
    I don't know about that. I'd say we were trolled plenty hard, it just wasn't the OP doing the trolling.
    >> Gilgamesh, King of Heroes !EnkiduOJiw!!fXOkC1tdv81 12/22/10(Wed)20:22 No.13257293
    What system are you playing, OP?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:23 No.13257300
    THIS. Stab her in the throat when she least expects it, burn the manor, go CE, take levels in Barbarian.
    Your endless hate will be the wind that blows a tsunami of vengeance.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:24 No.13257318
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    OH WHAT THE...

    I JUST...

    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:24 No.13257321

    That was fucking amazing troll timing.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:25 No.13257339

    Yes, I'll admit. I feel damn hard for that. So hard, that I'm all the way past mad and back around to acceptance of my presence in a trolling master.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:26 No.13257349
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    I'm not sure what happened there, it seems the thread was derailed.

    Nevermind I guess.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:26 No.13257350
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    And all was safe again. Continue.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:27 No.13257360
    After the 10/10 master aristocrat troll, I don't think we'd mind. There are tripfags who tripfag because they can, and there are tripfags who tripfag because they have to*. Then again, 4chan generally hates tripfags on principle anyway, I mean, there's even that secure tripcodes are for jerksb anner, so... rock and a hard place.
    *See: Nurse-kun.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:27 No.13257366
    I think we know better this time.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:28 No.13257375
    You. GTFO. We aren't falling for your tricks a second time.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:29 No.13257379
    You are also a troll. 4/10 no where near as good as the first one.
    >> Gilgamesh, King of Heroes !EnkiduOJiw!!fXOkC1tdv81 12/22/10(Wed)20:29 No.13257380
    Well... Looking at >>13257349 , you should probably start.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:29 No.13257381
    Oh god it's 4 am but I can't go to sleep yet, don't leave us hanging there man
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)20:31 No.13257413
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    That was actually me.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:32 No.13257435
    Oh... Many apologies, then. Please, continue with your engrossing but utterly depressing story.
    >> [Ag] Corp. Shot !H508X.HbJ6 12/22/10(Wed)20:33 No.13257438
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)20:34 No.13257449
    It had been the same dream for nearly a year.

    It was always the same location. A pristine hall of court, as if carved from marble, some strange, alien light shining down, blurring her vision. Always the same group of men and women dressed in white, expressions blank, seated behind her in many rows, to both sides. Always the same speech and the same movements.

    Always the same trial.

    "You are on trial for the following crimes," the presiding judge droned, reading off a curl of parchment.

    "Guilty," Elizabeth whispered under her breath, because it always ended the same way.

    "Wrongful imprisonment, physical and mental torture, rape..."

    "Guilty," she whispered again.

    "...assault, wrongful use of authority...my, this is quite the list."


    The judge rolled up the parchment, handed it to a servant with sharp shoulders and clouded glasses. "Now...will the victim's lawyer present his argument?"
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:34 No.13257450
    Regardless of whether or not identities have been stolen by trolls, we shall remain here until we hear the rest of the story.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:35 No.13257465
    Goddammit, save the writing for AFTER OP is done with the story!
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:38 No.13257492
    I agree. Good Man who art Titanium, there is a time and a place. We shall observe you exquisite storytelling in good time.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:39 No.13257502
    Well, we DO have a deep love of brilliant conspiracy theories. A well written multi-thread trolling effort does appeal to our fancies. And this narrative does have our dander up already, so assuming that something this horrific was the result of a brilliant troll instead of an actual playsession is almost an easier sell.

    So what did you say? I could honestly use some closure on this issue.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)20:40 No.13257516

    Fine. I shall wait. Should really finish wrapping anyway.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)20:45 No.13257570
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    She was leaned over, clutching what was left of the love of her life to herself begging for some response or sign that I was still there. Without moving or looking or doing anything I answered.

    "Why did you marry me? Why are we still married?"

    Those were the first words out of my mouth in a few months I believe. And she knew it. Understandably it took her a moment to respond from the shock.

    "Because I love you! I married a man I loved more than anything in the world, I want to know if he still exists!"

    Again my response was as dead and monotone as before.

    "There was once a man who loved you with all his heart, with every fiber of his being. But you chipped away at him bit by bit, and the more he tried, the more he gave, the more you fought, till there was nothing left. Because you were so much stronger than him."

    She took it like an icy dagger through the heart, her breathing becoming shaky as she fought back the tears.

    "N-no! It's not true! Everything I did, I did because I care, to protect our love!"

    "As did I. I have given all I am, and I am no more."

    With that she drew in sharply, pulling him closer and tighter, before letting go and running off crying. And my guy just remained there till the maids came to collect him.


    Forgive me if any of that reads poorly, it's how I recollect the conversation went.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:48 No.13257600
    ...damn. Just, damn.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:49 No.13257615
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    And so it was the beginning of the end.
    >> Arcbound 12/22/10(Wed)20:49 No.13257618
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    >"I have given all I am, and I am no more."

    Manly tears OP.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:50 No.13257623
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    She should've manned up.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:50 No.13257632
    good job, op.

    I hope you destroyed her inside as much as she did to you.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)20:52 No.13257652

    Oh, yes, this story is well-deserving of my squeaky, boyish rage. Are you done telling the story?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:54 No.13257669
    Patience, my friend. Patience. Hear it all, so you may more perfectly craft you own tale.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)20:54 No.13257675
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    After that, the wife didn't leave her room for a good few days. I could control my character a little bit now, but I didn't really change the behavior, it kept driving home the effect when she asked of me.

    I spent more time with the head maid, whom always hated me, but turned out to be pretty cool girl. Really just to pass the time, but it came as an added bonus.

    Also out of the blue the stupid ooze mage came to visit (replying to the summons I sent requesting her aid in the big damn heroes moment), a few months late. Humorously enough, our mental/emotional levels were about the same, so she was the one so far after the initial "breaking in" by my wife, that my character most related to. It was only for half a day though before she left again, not being needed.

    In this way it was kind of funny that despite my mental ineptitude, my character more or less acted as the house representative along with the head maid, while the wife was in seclusion.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:55 No.13257691
    I think it'll be over when he says it's over.

    Hard to say how much heart-wrenching is left, though .__.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:56 No.13257712

    ooze mage?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:57 No.13257723
    >our mental/emotional levels were about the same

    Wat. Who the hell is this chick, and why the hell did you ever contact her in the first place?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:57 No.13257724

    Wait, the maids are girls? In a place where women are in command?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:59 No.13257748
    There are butlers and manservants, are there not?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)20:59 No.13257751
    There is only one thing left for him to do now.

    He is empty. But he has enough sanity to remember what was, and envy what could have been. In a fit of madness, fueled by the the last remnants of sanity you have left, you embark on a mad quest to unleash forbidden power and take it all back.

    Rewrite your fate.

    Take back the future that should have been yours.

    You are the true villain. It's you.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:02 No.13257772
    And don't forget to rape Caska.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)21:02 No.13257778
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    And so it continued like this for another week or so, until it was holding the party up. In response the paladins squire came to the estate to see what the situation was. She always regarded my character with disdain, essentially "corrupting" her master in her eyes. So right away she greeted my guy with hostility till the head maid intervened.

    Then she met with the paladin and didn't come out for quite awhile and much shouting was heard. My guy started crying as a result, the some of the maids present holding him and trying to comfort him.

    It ended with the squire storming out, and making a beeline for my guy. She threw the maids aside and started beating him, yelling about how this was all his fault, he was a weak piece of shit (and other swears), and how he should just die and she'd like it to be by her hand.

    In response (after being thrown into a corner and being beaten) my character just curled up shaking again, bawling all the more and at the tipping point of losing sanity again, actually called out for help from his wife just like the time he was being tortured, although to be fair he was in delirium again.

    The head maid was about to splatter the squire across the walls, but out comes the wife charging down the stairs with a sword and shield, smashing the squire away and sending her flying.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:02 No.13257780

    No, husband. You are the demons.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:03 No.13257784
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    Not yet. The point really has to be driven home to the paladin, first. Chill the fuck out.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:05 No.13257804
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:05 No.13257807

    Lose all vestiges of sanity.

    Cut the branded section of skin from your body and turn it into a mask.

    Hunt down all members of the church as an Assassin.

    The only thing we have left is hate.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:05 No.13257816
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    The gauntlet against the Order has finally been thrown!
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:06 No.13257821
    Smells like a setup.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)21:07 No.13257825
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    Yes when I say maids, I mean men and women alike. Most are men, but some are maids. The head maid is a woman though, and actually a medium-level member of the Order. Hence why I always had to be careful around her when trying to level or go against my wife's wishes.


    She's a PC/NPC we met awhile back, an arch oozemage. Probably among the upper top ten of enemies we've encountered, except that she was only an enemy by misunderstanding. After the initial encounter, we've met her on and off, and remained friends to the degree that we can call on her for help or info.

    Obviously though, she's not very reliable, case in point showing up months late to a summons sent by me requesting her assistance with an urgent matter.
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    >> Naggarothian 12/22/10(Wed)21:10 No.13257849

    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:10 No.13257850

    Eh. It's too late for her to redeem herself at this point.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:11 No.13257870
    But she's now going to do everything in her power to try to do so, anyway, and that includes raising hell with the Order.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:12 No.13257878
    Yes! Now THAT'S a MINDFUCK!

    OP you beautiful bastard you are required to keep fucking going with this son of a bitch character. You are to soldier on, with the help of the Paladin he will be better, he will be fixed, the two of them will be stronger together when they both realise what brought them together wasn't some dickhead assassin, it wasn't some laws of the order, it was each other.

    And then, the next time he arrives at the head of the fucking cavalry that saves the party, she will not berate him for leaving the house, she will cheer with the rest of them.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:16 No.13257908

    I have to leave in half an hour to go game with my group, but this story is so fucking enrapturing.

    Someone archive this shit, I want to know the ending!
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)21:19 No.13257942
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    She stands in the way to protect me, and OOC I am informed that the head maid is smiling.

    The squire retorts with more shouting, what the wife is doing, can't she see she's been blinded by my guy, it's all a ruse, etc... even if it is true, she has her obligations to the order, the state of her husband is unimportant, so long as he can serve as breeding stock.

    The wife simply thanks the squire for her service and dismisses her from her service.

    The squire is speechless, infuriated, and all manner of other feelings. She promptly challenges the wife to a duel then, as it's customary or something. The wife obliges though OOC I'm worried because the squire is one tough cookie and fully armed and armored, while the wife is just in a robe with a sword and shield.

    NPC to the last though I suppose, as I see firsthand just how strong the wife has become during adventuring since our separation. She quite simply decimates the squire, actually destroying much of her armor, which was a gift from the wife. Now it makes sense how she was able to seriously injure my character by accident from just sex, and if trying, could probably easily hug him to death alone.

    >Implying I ever had a chance to out-strength her
    >> [Ag] Corp. Shot !H508X.HbJ6 12/22/10(Wed)21:20 No.13257955
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:21 No.13257960
    God damn, what kind of bear woman did you marry Bro?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:22 No.13257974
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    Damn I hoped that she had killed herself...

    Also to sum up this entire story:
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:24 No.13257996
    No pictures saved, though, just thumbnails and text.
    If someone wants to put this on sup/tg/, then OP is this the last thread you're going to make on this? We need to know if this is Part 3 or the conclusion.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:25 No.13258006
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    What, is she built like a brick shithouse or something?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:25 No.13258007
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    Oh and yeah I am the anti-weeaboo troll from eaelier, I decided to play some LoL.

    Last game: Rammus 2/17/4. 6 Boots of Mobility. But don't worry I only play in 5 man premades and we decided just to fuck around with no purpose for a game or two.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:25 No.13258008
    There's a reason why the Paladin was the knight and her squire was the squire.

    Now what's left to wonder is how exactly the rest of the Order will catch wind of this so that shit will REALLY go down.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:27 No.13258024
    How could it possibly be the conclusion? There's still so much left to cover!
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:27 No.13258038
    Ah, those are the best. Sunfire Sundays are a favorite of mine. Entire team is tanks with nothing but Sunfire Capes, and one pair of Boots if you're feeling spunky. It's a recipe for hilarious disaster.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:28 No.13258048

    This had BETTER end with you going violently insane. . .
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:28 No.13258049
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    No, this is possibly only the beginning of something TRULY great.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:30 No.13258074
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    >hilarious disaster
    We stopped doing that because we kept winning games like that.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:30 No.13258078
    Bah, you scrubs. Back in the good old days we made dagon fives on tanks and mass bashers on int heroes.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)21:32 No.13258099
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    While I'm not going to say she isn't strong, it'd be more fair to say that the whole party/game advanced while my character stayed still. So he's still like a normal guy while they're all pretty far ahead, with the paladin simply highest in strength as always.


    So the wife sends the squire scrambling on her way in a beaten mess, back to the order to find a new master (she couldn't perform well enough in the duel). Handing her weapons to the head maid and having the other maids clean up the mess from the duel, she returns to pick my whimpering guy up, and carry him to the parlor to get him bandaged and fixed up.

    Once done, she gives him a kiss on the forehead before heading off in a hurry. My guy returns to the main hall eventually to see the others, the head maid laughing with another and the others looking pretty content despite what transpired.

    Eventually the wife returns, fully decked out in her greatest suit of armor that had never been taken off of display before out of reverence (her old crusade armor, before she joined the Order), and the related weapons. She clears some things up with the head maid, gives the rest instructions, and has everything she needs brought to the front and ready for transport.

    My guy the whole time was just sitting on the floor by the door watching everything quietly. Before heading out the wife stops to put a hand on my shoulder.

    "Don't worry Martin, I'll be back soon. I've got to take care of some things."

    With that she heads out, and holding onto the door while peering out like a scared child (although of note my guy wasn't scared or anything, just a result of his low sanity), and calls after her with one thing.

    "Good luck."
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:33 No.13258113
    Hey now, I played DoTA with my bros back in the day. Favored the Nerubian Assassin personally, that bastard was hilarious. Couldn't bring myself to play with anyone I didn't know though. Entire community is assholes.

    Anyway, bumping for OP to continue this tale of awesomeness.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:34 No.13258124
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)21:34 No.13258126

    You're confusing my hate! I don't know what to write to justify things anymore.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:35 No.13258133
    >She quite simply decimates the squire, actually destroying much of her armor, which was a gift from the wife. Now it makes sense how she was able to seriously injure my character by accident from just sex, and if trying, could probably easily hug him to death alone.

    "I Married the Tank: A Roleplayer's Story"
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:35 No.13258134
    >not arming Martin and letting him come along too
    Yep, still say you should have jammed a carving knife into her jugular vein whilst she slept.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:37 No.13258150
    To be fair, he's not even in any condition to be brought along. The Paladin just better hope that the Order doesn't send some muscle directly to her estate once she proceeds to piss them off even further.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:38 No.13258154
    He made the right choice.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:38 No.13258157
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    Oh man your group should be happy I'm not you. This can only lead one way and I'd make sure what came out of that way was something truly diabolical if I started regaining sanity.

    Manipulating people to your purposes is the most fun I ever have. And I kinda feed off by witnessing or hearing about the misery of others.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)21:39 No.13258168
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    Anyway so that's where things ended up last game.

    Any suggestions of what I should aim for or plan to do upon my wife's return? I'm not sure what she went off to do, or her success, but I imagine she'll be back soon, she's always been true to her word.

    Also keep in mind of my character's state, I can't start leveling again or anything, so nothing drastic like that.

    >in b4 suggestions of waiting for her to return, lying on the bed with nothing but rose petals covering up his body


    Also any questions about the game so far? It's at a pretty hectic turn of events, so I'm not all that sure of what's going on or could happen, but I can defintely answer things about what's happened already, who's who and what's what.


    Also has anyone seen that new Tron movie yet? It's really good! I just about died when I saw the Daft Punk cameo.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:40 No.13258172
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:40 No.13258185
    Rinzler had some flashy Capoeira moves.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:41 No.13258187
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    MFW she goes and slaughters all of the inquisitor-types in the order.

    Still, this guy's right. SHE MUST DIE FOR HER SINS.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:41 No.13258189
    Dunno about you, but I think he'd be closer to his old self with his preferred weapon in his hands.
    Give me something that can hurt and someone who's hurt me, and you'll have a wonderful chorus of agonised screaming.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:41 No.13258193
    I don't think she plans to leave anybody in a fit state to be going anywhere.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:42 No.13258202
    I think you need a hug.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:42 No.13258204

    Going CE is still an option.

    Just saying.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:43 No.13258208
    Leave the manor in the aftermath. Leave her a note, what it says is up to you.
    Seek out the other members of your old adventuring party; do what levelling you can along the way.
    Hopefully by the time you meet again, things will have changed.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:44 No.13258217
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    >mfw paladin goes crazy and turns the whole order into a mountain of corpses or dies trying
    >> [Ag] Corp. Shot !H508X.HbJ6 12/22/10(Wed)21:44 No.13258219
    Continue to bro it up with the head maid. See if you can extract info from her regarding what the hell is happening.

    Aim to recover sanity.

    Try to get a little more active. Show that he is, somewhat, recovering.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:44 No.13258230
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    Not much, I suppose. You're still basically a slavering wreck. Still, shit just got manly, even if you're not the manly one right now.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:45 No.13258231
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    Considering what it seems the paladin is up to and what her state of mind is you can pretty much turn her into whatever you goddamn please if you play your cards right at the right times.

    For now I think you should just celebrate that you completed the main goal here: Show the paladin that men are not to be trifled with and not to be fucked over. And that her order is fucked up something fierce.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:45 No.13258233
    Leave a note on the table that says "Gone Fishin'"

    Never return.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:45 No.13258237
    Or alternately, do what I've been telling you to do all thread long: burn the place down, kill everyone, ambush and decapitate your wife with a band of mercenaries to back you up. Just remember to take something shiny from the manor before you torch it, it won't work otherwise.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)21:46 No.13258247
    Since OP is done with his story that fills my heart with double-fisted anger, I will continue mine.

    My opinion has not changed.



    The man sitting next to Martin stood. He looked clean and pleasant. Like everyone else, he wore white - even his skin shone like the skin of everyone else in the hall. "Good morning," he said with practiced drama, folding hands behind his back and walking out on the floor in a crisp, military strut. "Today I intend to prove that this...so-called paladin is guilty of the crime of abusing and destroying this innocent young man." He gestured to Martin, who would never look up and always keep his hands folded and eyes on the table. "This man, who simply wanted to experience the world and bring it some much needed hope. This man...whom the accused helped crush in mind, body, and spirit." He crushed his fingers into a fist.

    The assembly spoke unintelligble, hushed words to each other. Elizabeth had never figured out what they were saying all the times she sat here.

    The lawyer spread his hands in a shrug. "Of course...you've all heard the talk. Ever since the order was exposed from the inside, you've all become aware of their crimes, which is why I won't dwell on those. Instead, I'd like to jump straight to the testimony. If his honor doesn't mind."

    The judge lazily waved a hand, cheek resting on old fist.
    >> tha/tg/uy 12/22/10(Wed)21:46 No.13258249
    Seconded. Although I can't see how that would happen. Judging from his mental state it would take some kind of divine miracle to give him enough sanity to even remember his alignment.

    Plus, I'm a sucker for happy endings. Riveting tale OP.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:47 No.13258259
    Well, time for me to go do chores. Thanks for the story, OP.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:48 No.13258266
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    Granted, not exactly in the way initially planned, but it's still shown promise.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:49 No.13258274
    >>Also keep in mind of my character's state, I can't start leveling again or anything, so nothing drastic like that

    Dude, easy answer.

    She comes back and finds him practicing with his sword/weapon of choice. It would be easy to wrangle with the head maid, perhaps he just only really seems animated when he can see his old equipment. Normally he mopes around, mumbles any answers, winces when people approach him. However put his sword in his hand...

    It's not acrobatics, it's not a dance, what it is is a practical demonstration of how to harm someone with sharpened steel. He practices every day. He goes outside and sits near the tree, swinging his sword. He comes when called for food, but he first chance he gets he practices again.

    Then she returns. He winces away and drops the sword, as if worried she'll think it's an aggressive action.

    How does she react? If she's anything like I'm reading, she'll be overjoyed that he was animated, if only for a moment, and then crushed when he returns to how he was.

    Then she'll pick up his sword, and train him. She'll be so longing for that man she knew to return, that she would put a sword in his hand and train him.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:49 No.13258276
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    Now that she's realized her mistake, she must live with the guilt of her actions for the rest of her life! Letting her live is a much harsher fate than killing her!

    Plus, she's about to go ape-shit on her own Order. Gotta give her points for that.
    >> tha/tg/uy 12/22/10(Wed)21:51 No.13258292
    Yet her own sin remains. A thousand dead paladins and clerics of the order will not heal her 'husband'.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:51 No.13258294
    Ignore the "lol kill everything" people OP. You've finally got the Paladin to see the error of her ways, don't throw it all away by RPing the easy way out and making your character go apeshit.

    Hopefully she'll come back alive and you two can run away into the sunset together. Over time your character slowly begins to regain his sanity though he's never quite the same. He's quieter, sterner more taciturn than before. Eventually when he regains enough sanity points he cuts off/distorts the brand in a dramatic RP moment.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:51 No.13258298
    Sit back down, pantywaist. Her crimes deserve far worse than death.
    I'm sure D&D, in most of its settings, has many things that fall into this category...
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    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)21:53 No.13258317
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    I'm not going to defend her actions, but I will say that my guy isn't really in a state to be adventuring;

    - Severely mentally and emotionally disabled
    - Physically weak normally (relative to the others' level), currently emaciated more or less due to not eating
    - Currently just got beaten badly by the squire
    - Still recovering the initial torture/rape (he still can't walk fully well from his broken back)

    I mean the whole dealio with the conversation in the garden and mustering the concentration to see her off with good luck, was a great deal of effort/a one time thing so far. He still needs to heal physically, and even then it will be probably many years before he gets back his mental capacities fully, perhaps never.

    One step at a time I figure, at least get better physically, start eating again.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:53 No.13258318
    You are suggesting he forgives the unforgivable.
    This is far less realistic than what I suggested. And I did give a more peaceful suggestion: time apart. A lot of time apart.
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    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:55 No.13258333
    There's a spell specifically made to show you the most intense pain (or pleasure as the caster's choice) imaginable, the consequence of it being that after you recover from it (if you recover) your senses are all deadened permanently, since you can never feel anything even remotely close to what the spell simulated ever again.

    There's another spell that traps you in a world where you're the only being to exist, while your true body will slowly rot and decay as if in a comatose state. You are aware of your surroundings but to you it's all phantoms that you cannot hear, nor interact with.

    Just to name a few.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:55 No.13258339
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    Well plans never go as planned. OP has evolved a lot in his own decision making skills throughout the threads he has posted. Without that all of this would have fallen to the ground and died.

    I really don't know where OP WANTS it to be taken. But I do know that he can take it wherever he pleases if he does it right. The paladin seems to be breaking down in another way not unlike OPs character. And is most likely going to do something really bad that will make her on the run from the order. OP can literally steer the Paladin towards any goal from then on if he does right by himself.

    It all depends where OP wants it to go.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)21:56 No.13258351

    Two other servants of the court led Martin to the testimony stand, a little construction just in front of the table Elizabeth sat at. Like always, her gaze unmercifully pulled towards him to meet his back as he hunched over, attended by the servants. She could speak, she could gape, but the dream never allowed her any other form of control. If this was the dream walking shamans had spoken about...this wasn't it.

    Martin's lawyer walked in front of the stand and put on his believable, drooping sad face. "Now, Martin...I know this is hard for you." He spoke as if to a child. "But I would really like it if you helped me out today. All right?"

    "Okay." Martin's reply was so faint, so drained.

    "What happened after they took you to the tower?" the lawyer asked.

    "They told me I was defying their god," Martin said. "They beat me and cursed me until I couldn't move or think properly. Then they branded me with the symbol of their order."

    "May we see it?"

    Martin turned around, unbuttoning his long shirt. He never met Elizabeth's eyes, but hers met the symbol, scorched deep into his right pectoral. The dream never let her ignore it. The congregation's whispers continued as Martin faced the judge with shirt held open, and the judge bent over, chin rippling with fat as it pressed into his neck.

    "Please note that this is the symbol of the order the paladin is assosciated with," the lawyer said, and the scribe's quill danced across his slip of paper. "They take to branding individuals and calling them their 'property'." The lawyer nodded to Martin. "Thank you very much, Martin. You can close your shirt, if you'd like."
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:56 No.13258352
    This setting has magic healing, does it not?
    It's fucking D&D, of course it does.
    I'm sure somewhere in that messed-up head he remembers a long time ago, some nice smiling cleric fixing him up good as new.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:56 No.13258353
    I like this. Maybe combine it with >>13258294 to a degree. During one of their training sessions he takes an accidental stroke across the chest, and staggers under it a bit. When the paladin inevitably rips his shirt off to get a clear look at the wound it's revealed that it bisects the brand.

    Cue, "I'm back, baby," moment.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:57 No.13258357
    It's great to see that the story went in the direction I was hoping for after all, OP, but don't get the idea that the Paladin will have everything resolved in just one trip. If that's the case, then the DM is doing it wrong.

    The way I see it, the squire has crawled back to the Order to snitch on the Paladin, who departed to defend her actions and you. Considering that she rejected her current Order-sanctified gear in preference of her older stuff, she's probably going to declare separation from the Order altogether.

    This, I imagine, is when the real battle begins.

    It won't simply be a matter of offing a few evil inquisitor-types. The entire Order will be against the Paladin since having one of their higher-ups go rogue is bad for business. As tough as she is, the Paladin will still not be able to take them on by herself and will have to return to the estate quickly, hopefully before the Order gets there first. Then you and the estate staff (who I assume fully support the Paladin) will have to be evacuated to some safe zone before planning any further actions.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:58 No.13258365
    Yeah, I agree it's not realistic. But fuck, I like happy endings. Anyways, Fictional relationships tend to be unrealistic due to the power of twue wuv. Yes mistakes were made, but now that the character has realized her mistakes she can begin to work towards fixing them. I'm not saying it'll be easy or hell, even possible but they should at least try to go for the happy ending.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:58 No.13258368
    >mentally disabled
    He's traumatised, not fucking retarded.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)21:59 No.13258376
    work on regaining your character's sanity and back to his former self. If your character still loved his wife when he went insane, make him remember that, and make him remember what she did to him. Never forgive her for what she did, but never stop loving her. Show her some strength of heart man.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:00 No.13258379
    pick one
    >> Arcbound 12/22/10(Wed)22:00 No.13258384
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    This seems like an apt reaction for the Paladin.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:00 No.13258387
    OP, where do YOU want it to go?
    >> GHSTDRFT 12/22/10(Wed)22:00 No.13258388
    1st off I envy your roleplaying and your groups roleplaying.
    What happened that your character responded like that to his trama(canatonicly)? Massive failure of will save or just due to how you spoke to your GM about your plans. What has the party been doing while all of this is going on? How is your GM doing all this in game as it seems it's alot about just 2 characters and the other players would get bored.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:01 No.13258393
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    Let me restate my suggestion:

    1. With the DM's approval, start going crazy in a different way. Start fantasizing about killing. Start maiming/scarring yourself.
    2. Assuming you have Leadership: get in contact with some mercinaries, the crazier, the better.
    3. While the paladin is away, bring in the mercinaries. Slaughter the maids/staff, personally kill and behead the Head Maid.
    4. Burn the manor.

    Failing that, completely break the paladin. No forgiveness, no remorse.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:02 No.13258404
    You want her to feel dealing with her squire is not enough, you want her to feel that her order must suffer for the path it put her down and the path that put you down.
    You want her to embrace the anger she has in her own actions against the order, and with that destroy it, tear it apart piece by piece until she can scatter its ashes to the four winds and never allow such a cruel thing to exist again.
    And from there you are the key to her redemption or damnation.
    Whether you recover enough to push her along the path to teach equality instead of one gender is stronger than the other, or you change not at all, forever cursing her with not knowing what she must do to bring back the man she loved, tearing the world asunder in hopes that something will work.

    There is of course with you going into demonic pacts or some such after she takes out her order and using the new imbalance in the amount of paladins to let the forces of chaos and destruction take over, but that's somewhat lame unless it has a specific reason.

    However with the options at hand, I'd say I would wish for her to suffer eternally, but that's more due to personal reasoning than the evidence you've shown.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:03 No.13258419
    As for you own actions, I'm afraid that there still isn't much for you to do IC-wise, especially since you're likely to freak the fuck out as soon as any Order goons show up. This is entirely appropriate, though, and I appreciate how you seem to be sticking to this kind of character.

    Just keep in touch with your DM on ways this whole situation can be spiced up, bringing up the suggestions we're making here. I imagine that he should already have some things to throw at you, personally, while all of this is happening.

    And for the love of God, DON'T go throwing yourself away to CE.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:04 No.13258426
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    I've been thinking about this but I don't think OP is the kind of person who would do this (same with the retarded MAIMBURNKILL guys) therefore I do not suggest it.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)22:05 No.13258442
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    Seriously though she must have been clueless if she went through the 'motions' three times before noticing that something was wrong. Or maybe it's like some other people said, she noticed right away, but felt the urge for some quick satisfaction...
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:05 No.13258445
    Finally some one else who agrees with me. Going apeshit and killing everything is the easy way out. There's more fun RPing to be had by continuing the relationship.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:06 No.13258447
    ...aside from the whole 'wife being attached to a cult of misandrists and not being above the occasional bout of spousal abuse herself' part. For those parts it kind of sucks.

    Well. I do remember advocating that you should do your best to turn your wife around. I think we can probably check that off the list. I think it's safe to say I never expected that bringing her around to seeing your side of things would involve reducing you to the kind of broken wreck that actually benefit from her old overprotective attitude.

    What you need to do is focus on getting back in the saddle. This incident has left you levels behind everyone and dangerously low on mental stability. That's not something you are likely going to be able to correct in full, but you can start making some inroads on that. Still, you are playing a severely handicapped invalid, and that's going to limit your options.

    On the one hand, you can probably get back into respecting her, but the whole broken back - torture - rape incident is unlikely to go away, even if your character really wants it to. That is likely to stick as a wedge between you for the rest of forever. Which might lead to all kinds of incidents where you're sitting in an otherwise normal situation with your girl and she tries to do something romantic, and then you come to missing the last five minutes, curled into a ball and screaming uncontrollably.

    Time apart might just be the best option for this, if you get to the point where you can actually travel.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:09 No.13258484

    Look, I'm not saying he HAS to go all MAIM, KILL, BURN, I'm just saying that he must DESTROY the paladin, however he does it. So long as she suffers, dies, or turns evil: it's a win for OP.

    But hey, what do I know? I posted>>13258319
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)22:09 No.13258494

    Martin just dropped his hands. The lawyer stepped closer. "What happened after that?"

    "Elizabeth entered the chamber and we had intercourse."

    The lawyer pursed his lips. "The abovementioned rape, the court will notice, taking advantage of a tortured man in order for her to bear a child. No doubt, another body for the order to instill its twisted principles upon."

    "That's not true," Elizabeth said aloud, even though she knew the dream would ignore her.

    "And after that?" the lawyer asked.

    "I was taken home and attended to by the servants," Martin said.

    "But I realized my mistake!" Elizabeth slapped her hands against the table, which felt like pressing against a solid mist of smoke. "I realized it was wrong to impose my values on him! I realized it was wrong to torture him and break his spirit just because I was too stubborn to acknowledge his opinion!"

    "While she went back to her adventuring party without you, I wager," the lawyer said.


    The lawyer's head bobbed, distilling the testimony like he had done countless times before. "Thank you, Martin. You may sit back down." He and Elizabeth watched the servants escort Martin back to his seat, where he resumed his morose task of staring down hardwood.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:10 No.13258499
    Maybe faith replaced her conscious thought.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:10 No.13258504
    I'm still imagining an awesome moment once he regains enough sanity. He faces her slowly and takes off his shirt revealing the brand on his left pectoral. He then slowly and deliberately takes out his knife and cuts it off, all without uttering more than a grunt. Then he takes the marked flesh and throws it into the fire.

    Of course going by his state now, that moment is probably a good distance away.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:11 No.13258510
    Actually, with the fact the wrath of the order will soon be coming down upon your house, what's to stop you from bringing up with the DM say... that oozemage you mentioned earlier in her own 'retardspeak' (for lack of better words) happens to alert some of the people who enjoyed working with your character of his current state, so they start trying to assemble again to get you out of this situation and ready for war if they need to be... and just happen to show up just as the first wave of order forces arrive to bring in the wife for interrogation.
    Suddenly you have a declaration of war on your hands, assuming they can learn of what happened in time to say "fuck off" to the order.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:11 No.13258513
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    I just got a brilliant idea.

    Find a religion. A more balanced religion that doesn't look more favourably on either gender and ask them if you can be posessed with a celestial to help heal your mental instability. If that works then it has literally solved all your problems at once. Of course this means you might become something like a half-celestial or that something else happens to your character, but that's ok isn't it?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:14 No.13258546
    Could bring up one of the creatures from one of the 3e MMs that found weaker adventurers and would strike deals with them.
    These spirits were totally benevolent and loved adventuring, but had no physical body of their own, so the deal would be that they would grant the would-be adventurer great abilities and power, and he puts up with a CG occasional back-seat driver living in his body who would share XP with him.
    Just a thought.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:15 No.13258554

    This. Specifically:
    >all kinds of incidents where you're sitting in an otherwise normal situation with your girl and she tries to do something romantic, and then you come to missing the last five minutes, curled into a ball and screaming uncontrollably.
    Do that. Never, EVER entirely recover from this. In fact, at the touch of her (or any woman), scream, curl into a ball, and start crying. Never EVER let her forget what she did to you, and what she let be done to you.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:15 No.13258560
    I'm wondering just how you were able to manage an erection after all that horrific torture. You'd think being freshly branded and in massive mental and emotional shock would kind of make that sort of thing impossible.

    He's IN LOVE with the paladin. Horribly afraid of her and having Nam flashbacks whenever she touches him, yes, but he certainly doesn't hate her. Probably. At least not now; I really don't think he has the mental capacities for serious hate at the moment. The fear is taking up too much room in his head.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:16 No.13258569
    Why would he want to destroy her? He genuinely loves her. I'm talking Princess Bride levels of true love. Despite what she's done to him, despite everything the order has done he still loves her even though he shouldn't. Sure he may never be able to forgive her but he may be able to move on.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:17 No.13258577
    Sounds to me like the OP is going to go in the direction of developing a romance wherein the Paladin will try to atone for her sins against him, and he will slowly regain who he is.

    The best thing that can happen in this situation is for the paladin to be in a position where she is about to be killed, and he's right there. Just as the one inflicting said mortal danger on the paladin is about to kill her, they'll gag for a second and look down to see a blade running through their stomach. They'll fall down, revealing the ragged husband panting, releasing his grip on the sword as the paladin just stares at him as if to ask "Why? How can you come to my aid, after all I've done to you? How can you ever forgive me?"

    He'll just stand there, slightly hunched over, and an ironic grin creeps over his face as she begins to tear up. He walks over and hugs her, a tear rolling down the side of his face as well.

    "I never did do what you expected me to. Let's go home."
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:18 No.13258589
    It seems more like he was in love, and now he's unsure, but due to his wracked mental state he clings to what he knew in his previous life, before all the torture, simply because that's the only stability he has anymore.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:18 No.13258593
    She probably had heard about this sort of thing from the same brilliant minds at the Order who gave her the "how to break your husband" plan. In her mind, it was supposed to go "the first time after Room 101 is going to be bad, but by time two he'll start warming up and by time three it'll be like it was before, only with less backtalk".

    And, you know, she probably didn't want to believe that she'd murdered her husband. Because she did; your character is pretty much an empty shell with just enough of himself left to remember what he's lost.

    Don't keep playing this character, though. Start playing a character who's pretty much the pally's therapist, probably a cleric of whatever god would be most appropriate. Either a warforged or a changeling/doppleganger, so that the gender thing isn't an issue.

    Alternatively, play a female relative of your now-insane character who joins the party either to force the pally to atone for torturing an innocent person until their mind snapped or to avenge the blood-debt now owed to your old character's family.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:19 No.13258600
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    Yes exactly. Its the prime time and most cliché story for "and then I/we became evil lol" so do the opposite. Find a force of good to help your mind come back. Find the most powerful and fearsome goodly divine force and let it help you. Invite it inside you and become whole again, but as something slightly different. The more your appearances and overall divine radiance you get the better.

    And then you and the paladin will be ready for the troubles ahead. because oh there will be troubles abundantly.

    Pic related, be like this.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:19 No.13258604
    Possible I suppose, but too sudden. I like the direction you're going but he just wouldn't be better all of a sudden. After he saves her he'd just go back to being a mute again. Maybe say a few words to let her know that he's still in there somewhere.
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    Fucking humans, how do they work?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:19 No.13258608

    No. He can never bring himself to touch her. Or really talk to her. No matter what happens, keep that aversion to physical contact.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)22:21 No.13258619

    The judge shook a fat finger, still reclining on his knuckles. "If I recall correctly...was it not this paladin who exposed the order's crimes out of guilt for her sins?"

    "That is correct, your honor," the lawyer said with a curt bow towards the judge. "But sins were committed all the same. She must face due punishment like all the members of her lot. It's only right."

    It's only right, Martin.

    The judge's hairy brows crumpled, and his big looming mustache twitched. "Yes, yes, of course. And considering this testimony, as well as the examined evidence beforehand, I see no point in continuing any further."

    They never assigned Elizabeth a lawyer. She always sat alone.

    "Paladin. Stand before me and deliver your final words before sentencing."

    She was crying now as she pushed herself up out of her seat. That had never happened before. Her being swam awash in sadness from the start of the dream to awakening, every single night, lingering through the daytime when she found herself re-enacting the terrible things she had done in her mind, unable to think otherwise. But now she was crying, the first new thing that dream had allowed since they began long ago.
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    OP, if you're still there,

    1.what's your INT or similar score?
    2.would you be allowed to transfer skill ranks?
    3.do you have any skill with bureaucracy?

    When you are clearly unable to fight and would lose any fight you are dragged into, there is only one way to do win. You must become the most dangerous man of all.

    Those who win every battle are not really skillful. Those who render other armies helpless without fighting are best of all.
    - Sun Tzu
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)22:22 No.13258631

    Elizabeth moved behind the testimony stand, her fingers curling around its edge. She felt the tears sting but tried to keep a firm look, as always. She had said different things and different passages every time she approached this stand, thinking the dream was just a random gathering of her guilty conscience. But, as time passed, the truth had dawned on her - this was a sign from her god, that she had committed grave sins and that she would continue to suffer if she didn't fully accept what she had done.

    Who wanted to accept something they never wanted to experience again?

    "I have no apologies to give because none can compensate for the pain and suffering I helped cause," Elizabeth said. "I know that I continue to experience this dream night after night in an attempt to show me the error of my ways. I fully agree. I have made a grave mistake in judgment...harmed the man I love for the sake of foolish beliefs."

    She looked over at him, sitting there with a total lack of color. "I was wrong. I will never forget what I have done. And until the end of my days, I will never stop repenting for these sins. If it's a burden I must bear...I accept it willingly."

    "She has accepted her fate," the lawyer said. "I trust the punishment will be fitting to the agreement she has entered."

    "It will," the judge said.

    "Good. Now, I have one more question before your sentence."

    The lawyer walked in front of her, sharply turned, and stared. "What makes you think this is still a dream?"
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:22 No.13258633
    I haven't really been keeping up with your write-faggotry but if anything the Judge's lines and description made me think of Tony Jay voicing him.
    And it was awesome.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)22:23 No.13258644

    I now decree that this is how the judge speaks. Like Tony fucking Jay.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:25 No.13258665
    ...the fact that she's also gone insane, and hasn't realized it?

    Good show, Sir Writefag. Good show.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)22:25 No.13258669
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    I suppose from here, I'd like my character to recover obviously. Physically shouldn't be too hard, and once he gets in shape to where he used to be at least, the wife will probably take him with her. Mentally though is another issue though, as even leveling up doesn't effect the sanity level nor simple training or anything. It has to be slowly overtime, or in lump amounts because of certain events (the wife confessing her guilt, witnessing the squire being dismissed).

    Further out though, I guess getting rid of the Order is a good plan. The only problem being, that there's only about 9 of us PC's, and Elizabeth herself, as strong as she is, is only about 90th-80th in terms of strength in the Order. Though their order numbers about 2000 or more in fighting numbers, so she's better than like 1900 of them, that's still too many to fight with just 9 of us.

    As well, despite their odd social/cultural values, they do serve the church and do allot of good work, so they have allies in high places, not just the church itself.

    However on our side, we have the King Elizabeth serves, the deposed kingdom of the Rogue, the band guild of the Bard, the followers and the cleric, some other places and kingdoms we've helped, and on top of that certain notorious individuals such as the ooze mage, and the revolutionary, etc...

    If we sum up all our forces, we could probably combat the order and it's allies directly, but it would take much, much work to organize something like that for us, over something so seemingly trivial.


    Well I doubt anyone from before will work with me now, except for maybe the oozemage, although she would more than make up for the rest of them. She's just kind of hard to get ahold of/pin down.


    As for worrying about any attacks on the mansion while the wife is away, I'm not that concerned, the head maid is quite strong.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:26 No.13258675
    Hell if you really want it to be a twist go all Book of Exalted Deeds on it by having the manifestation first appear as one of your character's hands becoming a flaming sword of judgment, the feathery wings and eyes of golden radiance showing up just before anyone can assuming demonic possession, however this can go in an interesting direction, whether you must permanently become one with the angel (and ultimately warping your mind to its view points, and memories), or if the union can be separated but if it is, that's permanent, and you're unsure of whether you'd return to your vegetative state or not.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:27 No.13258687
    >Find a religion
    Oh my god that IS brilliant. Religion would be a near-perfect stabilizing factor for what's left of his persona (and not that out the ordinary for what other victims of severe rape and spousal abuse do). Whenever the wold gets too terrifying for you to deal with, you can always take refuge in the fact that there's a god out there who's not a total dick and is going to look after you.

    And he gave you some cleric levels to prove it.

    Yeah. No matter how much of a 'good end' this might come to, sex is likely ruined for him forever. Probably most forms of human intimacy too. This wasn't just his wife who implicitly sanctioned his torture and then raped him, this was someone who he had been adventuring with for an extended period of time and considered a very close and trusted friend in addition to a love interest. The levels of betrayal in what she did where truly staggering. All the more reason to distrust all people that try to get close to you an place all your trust in a divine source that's not about to betray you.

    Maybe you should sneak off to a monastery or some such for your convalesce. Quiet abbeys are good for this kind of thing.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:30 No.13258711
    Yeah dude. It may sound a bit boring but I'd say go along for the ride. RP your character slowly regaining his sanity now that Pally has realized how wrong she's been. But still, he'll never be the same. Change his personality slightly once he gets better. Like he's more serious and shit and rarely laughs. Also, someone else suggested this but if he gets into any romantic situation he freaks out. He just curls up into the fetal position and wont budge. RPing the slow and painful healing process between your character and the pally should be hella fun.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:32 No.13258739
    I hate to do this but...
    >implying the fact that the 80th or 90th strongest member of a 2,000 strong army seeing the order as badwrongevil and abandoning its ways isn't going to be a HUGE FUCKING DEAL to the order, especially if she has any social standing that would allow a lot of people to know of this departure.

    In essence: while it seems trivial that it's only your character's issue starting it all, due to the power players involved, it can EASILY snowball into something huge, and in all likelihood will. This could, of course, be different if your DM doesn't like to think of things in those terms.

    Total war, while should not be hoped for, should be planned for considering the circumstances.
    As you'd rather go out with your soldiers and allies in a blaze of glory attempting to take out an oppressive force, instead of being killed in the night when the enforces of the church show up to make examples.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:33 No.13258740

    If you DO get possesed by an angel, make sure to go the "Destroyed Mind" route. Leave nothing of the old character.

    Imagine it: The paladin goes to find her husband, hearing that he entered a cloister, intending to apologize for everything. She sees him, kneeling at an altar, praying. She rushes over to him, sweeps him into her arm, and blurts out how sorry she is, how it was all a mistake, and how she realizes that men and women are equal.
    He looks at her, his eyes aflame, and says: "I'm sorry, who are you, again?"
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:33 No.13258746
    Add one twist.

    The old character's mind and soul are gone. Forever. They died when they accepted the possession.

    Make it clear that this choice was because the broken ruin that was once a man was no longer capable of thinking of any other way to help the woman he still loved.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:34 No.13258755
    Who needs sanity? Become berserker, turn your sanity into rage with a hellish shriek as you disembowel your enemies.

    The paladin then becomes a chain to the last bits of your sanity. She desperately tries to hold on to you as your rage in battle becomes more and more vicious, leaving you a quivering husk after the clash. And in trying to hold on to the love you used to have, you manage to maintain your own little warped sliver of sanity.

    I can't help but wonder how the rest of the party will react or have already reacted to what she's done to you, though. I can just see them berating her over it as she starts to get emotional, and then they're all silenced by the meek voice of a man who has been broken and tortured timidly standing up for her in his own little way.

    "She regrets it. Isn't that enough for you?"
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:35 No.13258761
    As hardcore as I imagine the head maid is, there's still probably plenty who could kick her ass. Those inquisitor-types, for example.

    But the Paladin probably doesn't need to war against the Order up to their destruction. She just needs to beat them back enough for them to consider her not worth pursuing any longer. Some more potential allies you could probably find, though, are other former-members of the Order who have managed to find a way out, as well as existing members who may have doubts that the Paladin can influence.
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    And even after taking in the amounts it will help your character, having yourself as a celestially powered superbeing kicking BIBLICAL amounts of ass on a bunch of paladins from a badong order is just too fucking awesome to pass up.

    Of course the whole celestial thing can also be played off slowly as you wish OP.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)22:36 No.13258772

    Elizabeth's eyes widened. He had never said that before.

    "The Lord always watches his children," the lawyer said, walking towards her, his steps now resounding. "When they do good...when they do evil." He balanced the two ideas like invisible weights with his hands. "And he never forgets. No matter how much good they do...he never forgets everything else."

    "Wh-what are you talking about?" Elizabeth asked. "I exposed the order! I saved Martin from madness!"

    "Yes," the lawyer said, flashing a big, patronizing smile. "You did! And you were cut down later, remember? Your order wasn't entirely innocent. Some of them didn't deserve to be paladins, especially considering their use of torture and poison and assassins."

    Elizabeth's foot shuffled back. "Then I...I'm dead?"

    The lawyer nodded. "For quite a while. The departed can't move on until they accept and pay for their sins. The Lord welcomes everyone by his side, but not until they've paid penance. That's just how it works, I'm afraid. Penance equivalent to the sins dealt in life."

    "Then it's over. If you're ending this dream, then that means I've gone through penance."

    "You have not," the lawyer said. "You've accepted your sins willingly. The dream was meant to show you that. Penance is next." He laid a cold hand on her shoulder. "The Lord never forgets, though. The atonement you've enacted out of your own will during life will count towards that. You will be by the Lord's side soon enough."
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:36 No.13258774

    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:37 No.13258782
    You do realize you're advocating total character death, the one thing the OP said he absolutely did NOT want to do, right?
    On that note, if he changes his mind about not wanting to go that route, that's when through the help of a trusted other prior to the possession you have a heartfelt note written out, even if the language used is broken from not being used to making complete comprehensible thoughts.
    Alternatively the angel-bonded character assures her that his soul has found the only happiness it could hope for by becoming a part of the greater gestalt and giving up its individuality and all the pain that came with it.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:37 No.13258791
    Hm, then again, I do like >>13258739's thinking on how this matter can escalate to a bigger conflict...
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    If anything make it so that you make a speech about how you're another person but still have the same personality. We want the celestial to MEND the mind. Not ruin it.

    Damn its hard to find Darksiders Angels.
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    Nicely done, Titanium.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:41 No.13258827
    I'm sorry, but your version is by far, ten thousand times worse than ending ending I can see transpire. I'd even opt for the husband becoming Chaotic Evil and killing everyone than have this ending play out. Just getting my two cents in, but having her pay for her crimes because it was what her god wanted? That religion has got to be the most warped I've ever heard of.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:42 No.13258837
    Oh man, that writefaggotry and all that talk about the dude losing his mind to an angel and shit got me really depressed. GO FOR THE GOOD END OP!
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:43 No.13258857
    I don't think it's what Titanium wants. I think he's just writan for the sake of writan.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:43 No.13258859

    Also basing off of the slow recovery as well as angel possession, let's say he does discover religion through all of this?
    What's to say the possession of a guardian angel of sorts isn't slow and partial, his mind slowly getting better as his wounds start to heal faster, the final signs before full recovery being the grand burning from his flesh in the kind of grayflames that only appear when wickedness is burned away, the mental form having returned (thought slightly altered in personality), and much stronger (on par if not stronger than the other characters), granting you a returned character.
    Of course by slow return, I mean he's still going through the many hassles of everyday life as only someone who has been truly broken can go through, but he's slowly making progress as the paladin cares for him and tries to return him to who he once was, opening his heart and, as a side-effect, letting the angel in.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:44 No.13258869
    There's a reason I didn't suggest going paladin (irony of ironies!) if he finds god. The man is not the most physically imposing of characters. He would make a terrible berserk.

    Again, not the best way to play it. Better he stick around and still not forgive the paladin for what she did. Every time they're in the same room he need still be there, body AND mind, not letting her move on from that emotionally or otherwise.

    And they're still married. He's not walking away from that either, which would make thing a bit harder for her to move on even they DO come to an amicable end to their romantic relationship.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)22:45 No.13258886

    Elizabeth shook. "No."

    "I'm sorry." The lawyer looked back towards the judge. "Verdict?"

    The judge banged his gavel. "Guilty."

    A spark of flame danced on his skin, and it suddenly erupted into wildfire. It whisked down the judge's body, across the floor, and the judge and the congregation, the furniture hall, was engulfed in scarlet fire that shone against the light.

    "Full punishment," the judge intoned, the fire blackening his flesh, dissolving it into a putrid mist.

    The lawyer stepped in front of Elizabeth, framed her face in his hands. "You must remember," he said, the flame overtaking him, melting his skin, his clothing. "It's for the greater good."

    It's for the greater good, Martin. Please.

    Elizabeth screamed, knowing it would never end.


    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:46 No.13258894
    One thing I forgot to add.
    This recovery of course would not be complete, his warped mind and broken spirit would have its effect of course, perhaps whenever anyone touches or when she touches him he flips out getting as much distance as he can in one quick burst of speed or readies to strike them down.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:47 No.13258903
    Never end? Oh come on dude.. :(
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:48 No.13258911
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    That's Christianity for you.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)22:49 No.13258927

    NO, I MAD >:(
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:49 No.13258928
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    He can use the whole "split personality" to his advantage here. Let the celestial destroy the "protector" side of the split mind and take its place. So when he is confronted by the badong paladin order he becomes something else entirely in mind, possibly having this show out from his body and with a voice change.

    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)22:50 No.13258945
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    If I were to go the "sell soul" route for healing, I think I'd want to do it like that guy from the other thread based on this did.

    Where the character in his weakened state attracts the attention of a demoness. She consoles him and rehabilitates him, she promises to take care of him and never lies to him. In fact she's so kind and caring that he mistakes her for a guardian angel or his conscience. As such no one is suspicious when he responds as to how he got better or survived a sure-to-die situation, "It was my guardian angel!"

    But through and through it all, the demoness is just working to corrupt his mind and body and as she gains power he decays more and more. Eventually his body is turned into a gate through which her and her friends can enter this plane, and he just serves as her pet from there on out. Maybe new wife, to pervert the relationship he had with Elizabeth.

    And what more, it makes sense, if he's going to have a hand in putting down the Order and parts of the church, which would allow the demoness to thrive.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:51 No.13258952
    But she died trying to fix things. That has to count for something, right? ;_;
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:51 No.13258954
    Cloistered. Cleric. Monk that shit up. See if you can take some vows, despite being married. When and if your Paladin wife finds ye, simply smile with gentle humour and continue with your work.More then anything, vow of silence.

    Embrace a monastic life and enjoy the quiet sanity of labor and prayer.

    That, or Wizardry. Dark magic, or fel pacts with beings beyond space time. Fuck sanity when you've got Elder Gods backing you up. She raped you physically. Rape the world metaphysically.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:52 No.13258965
    >and he just serves as her pet from there on out. Maybe new wife, to pervert the relationship he had with Elizabeth.

    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:54 No.13258989
    Aww dude don't do that.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)22:54 No.13258998

    She's getting less time in the broiler than others will.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:55 No.13259008
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    No. Find a celestial. Find a force of GOOD. Not a force of EVIL.

    Seraphim, Cherubim, Virtues, Dominations, Archangels, Souls, Principalities, Powers, Thrones, whichever it takes to get your divinity up and as high as possible. Ascend the divine ladder. Do not descend into the depths of hell.

    Fuck, this is better to post than Darksiders right now.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:56 No.13259013
    The biggest issue I can see with this is the fact that if demonic taint is found it may be twisted by the church to have her think that this possession was clearly much longer lasting than it actually was, and all the mental torment she went through was all some demon's ruse.
    As well as put her own judgments in serious doubt as her slept with said demonic tainted person, multiple times. So my guess would be that it would cause her to either become much more resolved in her original faith than she was before the most recent events you mentioned in this thread, or warp her down the path of a church inquisitor determined to get rid of the taint and curse others like they cursed you.
    By far this is the worst end one can ask for.

    However if you prefer that over celestial possession, perhaps possession should not be considered at all.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:56 No.13259015
    For fucks sake guys, finding God in order to gain the mental strength to deal with your traumas does not immediately default to letting an angelic creature possess his body and erase parts of all of his mind. FAITH DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT. And mind-erasure is really terrible roleplaying. Just get him to a religious sanctuary and into the hands of some very capable and understanding clerics so he can start getting his brain back together.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)22:56 No.13259016
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    So does anyone have any questions about the setting or history of the game? Lore? Characters?

    Sorry if someone asked something like this and I didn't see it.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:56 No.13259017
    Well, the important part is the whole "not mending" thing.

    And frankly, the real reason for OP's character to die, or even be outright obliterated (well, his mind and soul anyway) is to make sure that the paladin can't fix this. Ever. No matter how much she might want to, she's never going to get the chance to atone to the husband she destroyed. She's never going to be able to ask him to forgive her, she's never going to hear his answer, she's never going to have closure for her sins.

    Because some things even PCs can't fix when they break.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:56 No.13259020
    But it's still never ending?
    >> BROMETHEUS !!wDrMyk0Rr/7 12/22/10(Wed)22:57 No.13259031
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    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:58 No.13259035
    What was the rest of the party doing during the months of time that passed while you and the pally RPing.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:58 No.13259036
    >For fucks sake guys, finding God in order to gain the mental stre
    nobody talked about finding god, you are retarded
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)22:58 No.13259046

    It's gonna feel like an eternity, at least. Okay, maybe I should've been more clear with that part. Still, burning all the time and stuff.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:59 No.13259050
    I have wondered greatly how religion works in this setting, considering it seems to be even more of a clusterfuck than most settings.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)22:59 No.13259051
    What have the Bard and the Rogue been up to this whole time? I hope they're still gonna get it for being douchebags.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:00 No.13259061
    Does the setting allow this?

    You know the whole POSESSION OF A FORCE OF GOOD ON YOUR OWN VOLITION. And not the "lol demons hurr" thing.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:00 No.13259063
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    I'm personally with the "go evil" guys, but I think that the "kill, maim, rape everything" angle doesn't work. That won't get back at anyone; it will make you cease to be the wronged party, and thus you will be a totally justifiable target.

    No, I'm thinking you become a manipulator and, more importantly, that you direct your rage against the Order, not your wife, from a seeming standpoint of broken subservience.

    When an Order priestess goes missing? You. When mercenaries corner and violate an Order crusader, miles away? Your set-up. When an Order demagogue collapses at the stand, found later to have been poisoned? All you.

    Of course, it couldn't have been you. You're mewling and impotent. You don't have that kind of hate inside...do you?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:01 No.13259081
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    I'm just impressed by all the thought that's been put into this. I hope your character gets well soon, but please, don't give up on him. I'm interested to see how Martin and his wife get through this bump in the road. If she really has changed her ways, it's worth getting better as a way to congratulate her new values.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:02 No.13259085
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    I'm more interested in you reading my posts about a posession of a force of good to help your mind stabilize instead of being lured by demons. A lot of people seem to agree that this would be a great idea.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:02 No.13259086
    Oh snap, thread's heading to the purge. We need a new one if OP still wants to stay up and answer questions.

    Also, OP, keep us informed of further developments. Just make sure you have your entire story ready before you start posting.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:03 No.13259100
    What are you doing when you are not dealing with all of this character drama? As immersive as it is, I doubt the main plot of the campaign was get "one dude married and then have him deal with wife problems".

    On the finding god front, what do you think of the cleric path idea, and are there any conveniently available faiths for that?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:03 No.13259104
    Yes OP, since the thread is running out please tell us what you plan on doing.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:06 No.13259134
    Hmm....quiet, subservient males, quietly training to kill with blade and poison. A whole slew of em. Money and time, and power. A sprawling network of hate-filled assassins with one goal: Eradication of the Order.

    And you, OP, as a the quiet hand that commands the board.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)23:06 No.13259135
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    Trolling fags and making money respectively. Probably not, as theirs is a passive aggression. Kind of sucks, but meh.


    Doesn't really factor much into play, it's just a motivating/driving force in the setting and for people.

    Quite similar to real life really, it's what people believe in and can motivate them.


    It was never months really, except until the recent bout of downtime.

    So my guy made his big return, and ended the quest. Que downtime when the wife dragged me home, and got the inquisitors to order her to rape my guy. Back to adventuring right after.

    Then they finish another quest, she gets home, gets to seeing what he's become, tries loving and sexing him back to normal. About this time they start adventuring but she stays behind, and around the time she goes to remain in her room they need her and send the squire.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:07 No.13259156
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    If there are demons then there are also celestials.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:11 No.13259189
    >I see
    (Guy who asked about religion)
    That leads me to wonder about the workings of divine magic, as well as the influence of outsiders, demons, devils, angels, devas, etc in the world.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:14 No.13259218
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    I'm gonna go with some of the folks here and say the fastest track to getting stable and recovered is to find religion. Offer the paladin an alternative when she gets back.
    >> BROMETHEUS !!wDrMyk0Rr/7 12/22/10(Wed)23:15 No.13259222
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    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)23:17 No.13259246

    For light cannot exist without darkness!
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/22/10(Wed)23:17 No.13259248
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    The happenings between Martin and Elizabeth are separate games from the main campaign/game. In the main campaign game I play like the worst and most hated character ever, to get the other players to want my old guy back. Not intentionally do I play it like that, the character has just ended up being like that.


    As for the whole angel possession thing, I'm not really interested in doing, partly because it turns religion/cosmic powers into something they haven't been in the game, it would be strange to do so, but also partly because I've never really played a character like that, so don't think it would turn out well.

    Also some other reason but I forgot.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:20 No.13259277
    That actually explains a lot as to your resistance to such an answer. No offense but it would've probably helped if you mentioned those beings don't work that way sooner.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:22 No.13259303
    Actually I have a question. How did she rape your character? You'd just been beaten and tortured and fucking branded. Then your wife comes in and knocks you down and etc... but how did she manage to get Martin's dick up?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:24 No.13259328

    So....you want him to become Tuxedo Mask?
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:27 No.13259365
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    Yeah that's ok. No need to push you into things the setting (and you) aren't liable to feel comfortable with. If you got something like that to say just say it.

    Just promise me you won't go "lol evil with demons rofl" more than you would go "lol good with celestials rofl". Because if there ARE demons in the world then there are most certainly also divine beings to help.

    And even if you haven't roleplayed something before, the only way to find out how good you are at it would be to try.

    I just really really REALLY dislike the idea of turning evil just because you have the chance now. This is the time to go full on good and try to make sure that evil people like the ones that broke you never stay in a place of power in the world any longer.

    And going evil would prove the paladin order right in their ways. Do you want them to be right? No of course you don't.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:32 No.13259428
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    Guy who suggested becoming the manipulator here.

    This is why I think he should still love his wife, but go after the Order like the French goddamn resistance. She needs to understand that, though he's not going to pointlessly antagonize her, he has been wronged in every spiritual, emotional, and physical sense, and he is not going to stop fighting until the system that breeds complacency with such injustice feels exactly what he felt, with interest.

    Sure, going HURR DURR AHM EVIL NOW isn't the right way to handle it, but nor is becoming a virtuous moral center of forgiveness and peace. That just reeks of MORE complacency.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:34 No.13259455
    It is a mystery. Probably best to leave it like that. If Martin can remember how she did it, I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to.

    >In the main campaign game I play like the worst and most hated character ever
    That is just not possible. What little you have told me about the bard has already reduced me to frothing rage with regards to his character. I'm not sure what would happen if you actaully told me about him in depth, but I'm sure it has to be worse than the other guy you are playing now.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:35 No.13259456
    I agree. There's a difference between vengeance and lol kill everything and rape the bodies. But he has to get better mentally before that happens.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:37 No.13259475
    Unfortunately, despite what you may think, the body can respond even when you don't want it to, and even when you would think it would have no reason to.
    That's why a lot of rape fantasies involve the guy pointing out the girl is clearly enjoying it, because despite her mental state, there's only so much the body can take before it gives into its biological functions.
    This is also part of why rape is so brutal to the psyche, as it shows you really have no control over what others do to you and even over your own bodily functions.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:37 No.13259484

    If he does get better, though, he can't reveal it too early. When and if he starts doing some real damage to the Order, he needs to have the deniability of being effectively comatose. Only once he's started to gain the upper hand can he drop the ruse and take responsibility.
    >> BROMETHEUS !!8yZ96EQPbQn 12/22/10(Wed)23:38 No.13259489
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    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:38 No.13259490
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    >but nor is becoming a virtuous moral center of forgiveness and peace.
    Lawful good is not "lawful nice". Nuff said really.

    Refer to >>13258928 for my prime example of what should happen.
    Spoiler: Its him and the paladin hitting the order at full murderous force after going through the healing process that is to come. Telling them to surrender so they can die quickly instead of slowly by his hands.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:39 No.13259499
    True, but he was in severe pain at the time and was barely coherent. I'm sorry unless she used some sort of drug he wouldn't have been able to get a boner. She fucking broke his back.
    >> Titanium Man 12/22/10(Wed)23:40 No.13259517
    I may write more about this later, because I was thinking about the paths Martin could take now...and I realized Gabranth isn't the only path that works.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:42 No.13259533
    The only good end is for her to die taking on The Order. Of course that's out of your hands.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:42 No.13259537
    Good point, so let's chalk it up as a mystery that no one wants to bring up.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:43 No.13259549
    Yeah, you're right. It was probably never brought up while they were RPing. Would ruing the drama.
    >> BROMETHEUS !!8yZ96EQPbQn 12/22/10(Wed)23:46 No.13259583
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    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:51 No.13259632
    I can appreciate you pushing the whole PERFECT END option and everything, but dude, you're just destroying the seriousness, as well as looking like you don't quite comprehend the gravity of the situation the OP's character is involved in.
    No offense meant in any of that, but please if you want to keep contributing, do it outside of this zainy character you've invented for posting and do it as a person.
    >> Anonymous 12/22/10(Wed)23:57 No.13259704
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    The religion idea brings an interesting situation. This all started due to her devotion to her faith The Order. Perhaps he finds his own religion not just for his own sake but to UNDERSTAND her. Perhaps by diving into some form of faith he would be able to discover what motivated her to do what she did. Whether that ends up as good or bad thing depends on who he worships which is up to you. At best it could lead to him fully forgiving her and moving on with his life. At worst it could lead to the worship of a dark God that is fueled by his sorrow ultimately leading to him sacrificing his humanity for power but at the same time realizing that no matter how much he hated her he still loved her, and she loved him in her own way.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:07 No.13259827
    Reading this just reinforces my long standing tradition of never having a plan more complicated than "I am going to kill all those motherfuckers".
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:07 No.13259828
    I refuse to be responsible for killing this thread. My conscience can't take it.
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    This thread.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:09 No.13259853
    I... I really don't think that just washing away all of his trauma with manly spiral power is something that's really feasible here. It's way outside of the mood, and it's bottom-tier RPing besides. I think it's even worse than replacing his character with an angelic power source that strong-arms solutions to all of his problems.

    Anywho, whatever solution you come to OP, I look forward to hearing about how it continues to manage to destroy your life.
    >> Titanium Man 12/23/10(Thu)00:10 No.13259859

    I will be the murderer then. More writefaggotry in the future. Waspinator has plaaanz.

    Then more lamia luchadore, because this shit is depressing, man.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:14 No.13259919
    Sadly, this thread is now a sinking ship. That's what 364 posts will do.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:14 No.13259932
    At least its managed some kind of turn around. I don't think there's any possible way that the next thread could have things happen in it that are any worse than what happened this time. Reading the early parts of the thread made me feel so physically ill I had to take a break from the internet for an hour and go curl up with a blanket until the nauseous depression fairy went away.
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    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/23/10(Thu)00:17 No.13259957
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    I figure just patience, and persistence. She's not short on endurance, so it's up to her really how long they take together. As in, does she have the patience and/or persistence to sit there and hump away until the necessary moment? A situation like this, I imagine she would, even if it took hours. It's fantasy after all.

    As for how she actually did it, there was never really opposition to her. First time was alone in a basement after torture, second time was alone in a bedroom after dinner and attempt making out, third time well, if the descriptions are to be believed, she more or less just picked him up and kept him suspended pressed against her as necessary, as he didn't receive any injury from the third time.

    All in all rather unsavory business reliant on how much time one was willing to spend, which appeared to be limitless.

    >/end creepy rape analysis


    Also is anyone making a new thread or is this it?
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:21 No.13260008
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:22 No.13260016

    I'm thinking make a new thread once new things happen; the discussion on this is pretty much done.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:23 No.13260026
    >Also is anyone making a new thread or is this it?
    I'd love to see a new thread. Unfortunately, I have to crash in a minute here, so I won't really be participating, but I'd love to read more when I get up tomorrow. I'm not sure how many people are still here as the thread falls to page 8 or 9, but I'd hope that folks would jump on a new thread if you were to make one. I, for one, support it.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:28 No.13260110
    Yeah, keep it to one thread OP, the general consensus of /tg/ seems to be go with the flow and try and get your characters sanity back. Just let us know what you're planning on doing before the thread goes kaput.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:29 No.13260121
    I would make a new thread, but I'm about to sleep.
    In other matters, a song popped on my playlist, some of the lyrics for some reason made me think of your situation.

    Don't you ever wonder why, nothing ever seems to change
    If it does it's for the worse, seems it's just a modern curse
    Sometimes when I take a peek outside of my little cage,
    Everyone looks so asleep, will they die before they wake
    And, hey. . . Don't you know? We're just products of our time and Hey . . .
    What d'ya say? Show me yours, I'll show you mine
    Better dumb and happy than smart and without any friends
    Better cute and better loud, better join up with the crowd
    Keep up or be left behind, there's a dust storm in my mind
    Seems I can't see straight these days, doesn't matter anyway
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:30 No.13260137
    Hey . . . Don't you know? We're just products of our times and
    Hey, what d'ya say? Show me yours, I'll show you mine
    Hey, what d'ya say? Hey, what d'ya say? Please don't ever -
    Oh God, here's that question now. The one that makes me go insane
    I'd gladly tear my heart out if you never, never, never, never change
    Do you want to change? Do you want to change right now?
    Do you want to change . . . I like my stupid life, just the way it is
    And I wouldn't even change it for a thousand flying pigs
    And I like you just the way you are, I like your face just the way it is
    And I wouldn't even change it for a herd of screaming kids
    And I like you just the way you are, I like you though you may not like me back
    I would dazzle you with brilliance, if I only had the knack
    'Cause I like you just the way you are, I like this life just the way it is
    And the castles all around me, have been melting now for years
    And it kills my brain to think of all the time I wasted here
    All the efforts, sweat, and broken hearts, the screaming and the tears
    And I'm dreaming again . . . Floating in a pool of mud
    Try to get back where I was and I don't really care
    Got a little talking to, by the mirror in my room, and I don't really care . . .
    Whispering voices from the dead, come from underneath my bed
    And I don't really care . . .
    I like my stupid life just the way it is
    And the chaos that surrounds me like a flock of screaming pigs
    And it hurts my brain to think of all the stupid things I've said
    And if I could change the future I would change the past instead
    And I'm dreaming again . . . and I'm dreaming again . . .
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:31 No.13260148

    Baby - sometimes I worry about you
    Sometimes you're so far away, tell me what to do
    I say, Baby . . . sometimes I worry about you
    Sometimes I just can't believe everything you do
    I say, Baby . . . sometimes I worry about you
    Every day I feel the same, don't you feel it too
    I say, Baby . . . sometimes I worry about me
    Seems I'm falling down a lot, in between the scenes
    I say, Baby . . . sometimes I worry about me
    Getting harder all the time, harder now to see
    I say, Baby . . . sometimes I worry about me
    Light another cigarette, have another dream
    It's the same thing every day, nothing ever seems to change and I . . .
    Do you really want to change?
    Testaments and growing pains. Tranquilizers for the soul.
    Nothing ventured, nothing gained - evolution's cruelest joke
    Why is everyone upset? I once knew but I forget. Something happened,
    Something strange, something it appears has changed
    Hey . . . Don't you know? We're just products of our times
    And hey, what d'ya say? Show me yours, I'll show you mine
    Hey, what d'ya say? Hey, what d'ya say? Please don't ever -
    Oh God, here's that question now, the one that makes me go insane
    I'd gladly tear my heart out if you never, never, never, never change

    While clearly not all match, some of it seems like it syncs quite perfectly.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:34 No.13260189
    Note: upon reviewing these lyrics I see they're actually a different version than the one I have on my playlist and as such don't flow nearly as well.
    Uploading the mp3 for those who wish to give it a listen.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:37 No.13260227
    Oingo Boingo's Change (Live), AKA: Martin's life.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/23/10(Thu)00:40 No.13260270
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    No exact idea really, given that I don't know what the wife went off to do.

    But assumedly, my guy will start trying to get better, eat more rest more, take more effective healing for his back, etc... so that at least physically he's at the same place he was before being forced into staying home.

    After that is just mental recovery, which will happen overtime but not enough. To be more effective, I aim to have the wife take me with her next time, adventuring with the party. Even if my guy can't do any fighting or just watches (worst case, paladin just keeps him in a backpack), simply witnessing events and the main campaign again will invariably cause him to gain sanity again, even more if the wife is actually kind to him again.

    Once a decent level of mental fortitude is reached, then my guy can start leveling like normal again. This way, all the healing desired is achieved without use of artifacts or celestial beings, or dark pacts or whatever, and allows for continued play in the main campaign as well as continued characterization and development between the wife, and other characters. The question is how to play that characterization, specifically with the wife. Things like her trying for sex again are obvious to respond to, but other things might prove difficult or interesting.

    I would imagine by then, that if we haven't already rejected or taken to fighting the Order, that we would be in a good position to start doing so, or step it up.
    >> Titanium Man 12/23/10(Thu)00:41 No.13260281
    I'll probably start a dedicated writefaggotry thread once I've written out the new story I've got in mind. I'll pad it out with La Serpiente as well.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/23/10(Thu)00:45 No.13260351
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    Also before anyone asks, even if she gets all rapey again, or just coerces my non-responsive guy, there's no chance of her getting pregnant. Since the torture/rape, she's been taking potions or drugs or whatever to prevent it, without the knowledge of the Order.

    To quote her, she's simply not ready for children, or to give up this life yet (ignoring or unaware of the fact that she could very easily saddle my guy with the kids and she could keep on adventuring).

    So theoretically they could be sleeping together like rabbits, if for no other reason than combat bonuses, but as made abundantly clear already, even sex for procreation will likely never be something to arise between the two. If so then being a long and complicated process, marked with failure.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:46 No.13260363
    Once your character regains some sanity what are you planning on doing with the brand on his left pec? (How big is it btw? Like just his pec or the whole left side of his chest?)
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/23/10(Thu)00:50 No.13260410
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    Realistically it'd make sense to remove it, but I figure it might be more dramatic if it's just left there, rather than like skinning himself to remove it. Maybe see if the paladin ever is driven to remove it herself out of madness. Plus, at least initially, it acts as a nice guilt-tripper as well as deterrent if she tries to get frisky.

    Size-wise about the size of an outstretched hand.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)00:53 No.13260450
    Yeah that's some good RP fodder. Judging by the chick playing the pally it'll make for an interesting story.
    Well, it's midnight and I need to go to bed. Thanks for the update OP, can't wait for the next one.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/23/10(Thu)00:56 No.13260494
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    No prob. People want to wait till something happens in the game before the next thread, don't know how long that will be, but I'll be sure to update.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)01:00 No.13260538
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    To be blunt, Martin maybe goes back to adventuring. Mentally and physically gets to a point where he can function. But man...that marriage is over. The woman Martin loved doesn't exist. She was a mental figment he built around what he saw. So, yeah....once he gets mentally back on his feet, he really needs to let her know that, no, he doesn't want to make the marriage work, and he REALLY does not want to be in her life. Not as a friend, not as a fellow adventure. Not as a passing acquaintance.

    Because that is what a SANE man, which you can hope to reach at some point, does. He does not stay with a woman who lets that happen to her husband she supposedly loves. That is bullshit, and there is no happy ending here. Just an ending, and a new beginning for Martin somewhere else...Or you can stay insane and just go with it.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)01:02 No.13260563
    And if he remains insane he can take the suicide route, fucking over everyone who has ever cared about him.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)01:53 No.13261114
    Ask your DM if there's any way to make up the exp gap between you and the others, an offscreen sidequest or something.
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)03:09 No.13261930
    So will your character, once sane enough to actually make such decisions, ever forgive his wife? (It's not that unlikely, battered spouses crawl back all the time, and if she's taking care of him while he recovers mentally he might develop a psychological dependence on her) And if he does will he harbor hidden resentment?
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)03:18 No.13261998
    A small defense of the first rape: a lot of definitions of rape and sexual abuse do consider being forced to rape/abuse someone else under some sort of coercion to be a rape of both the victim and the person being coerced to rape them.

    There's not really any defending the following two times though.
    >> Consider the Following !q9nmrv.ssM 12/23/10(Thu)05:38 No.13263148
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    No, I would imagine he would never forgive her. However neither do I think he would be prompted to take revenge. She sought the help of strangers to come into their house and regulate their lives, when he didn't want to live how she was forcing him.

    Is it something that can be healed? No, both of them will bear the scars their whole lives for her foolishness. But it is something they will have to deal with nonetheless. She may not suffer a lasting effect to the extent her husband has, but even if things go wonderfully for the two of them and all their hopes and dreams come true and they get over it and become a loving couple again, she will never be able to look at Martin again without being reminded of that hateful thing she committed. She could be woken up with a smile and breakfast in bed, she could see a scene of her husband and children playing in a park together, or see the pair of them as old people reading before a fire. As good as it could ever be, that time and mistake will loom overhead like the proverbial Damoclean sword.

    Whether or not this means they stay together, or married or friends or lovers, remains to be seen.



    Yes just as well, not defending anything but she was forced more or less into her actions. It's true she could perhaps have tried to fight it or resist, but she didn't want to risk their lives, for something she believed at the time to be generally correct.

    Plus it would be a lie to say she didn't want it at least somewhat, and for things to be "better".
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)05:46 No.13263218
    >She severely injures him when they have sex

    Is she a bear? Or better yet, is your guy made of rubber? How did he survive three times?
    >> Anonymous 12/23/10(Thu)05:47 No.13263220
    It's a Christmas miracle!

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