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    138 KB Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:38 No.7410817  
    So, /tg/ world architects: what sort of cultural (etc.) developments would civilizations make in a world almost constantly covered in fog?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:40 No.7410839
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:41 No.7410856
    Do they have access to magic?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:42 No.7410859
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    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:43 No.7410877
    H'mm. Let's do a dichotomy. One world covered in fog with magic, the other totally lacking in magic.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:44 No.7410890

    Alternatively, wet valley areas tend to fog up. A world constantly covered in fog doesn't make much sense though, because that'd probably kill off plant life really quickly assuming the sun doesn't evaporate it all.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:45 No.7410895
    You mean like Maine?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:46 No.7410909
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:46 No.7410911
    Fungus can survive without light though.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:47 No.7410927
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    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:48 No.7410939

    But fungus can't replace plants. It doesnt make its own energy, it draws it out of things. We need plants to be the backbone of the foodchain.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:49 No.7410951
    Fungus is not a plant, it's fungus.

    Also, It would not kill off all plants and really how the hell are going to cover a world in fog? I can see lots of low areas that are prone to it but, a world totally shrouded in it seems impossible.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:50 No.7410962
    Well, there is fungus that thrives on things like geothermal energy and nuclear energy. But life with niche fungus as a backbone would be very, very different. Probably a lot sparser too.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:50 No.7410963
    I dunno, the plant life would be entirely different, but it would probably exist. Or there would be fungus that develop some of the qualities we have in plants.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:50 No.7410966
    But what about low-light plants that thrive in the cool, moist ground level of rainforests? Those would pretty much be ideal for this sort of world, I would think.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:51 No.7410975
    >> Iron Handed 01/03/10(Sun)16:52 No.7410984
    mass defogger machines, everywhere, then we dont need to worry about the fog, and can build as normal.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:52 No.7410985
    Do you want the planet to be sustainable?

    You could have a massive volcanic eruption that spewed so much nasty shit into the air you get very fog-like conditions. Likewise a nuclear winter holocaust could be a source for vision obscuring dust that'd be fog like.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:52 No.7410990
    it can't if it did, it would no longer be fungus, it would be a plant. Also, light filters through fog. If it's heavy it will stay for a long period of time so, you have plants that are most likely highly resilient and efficient with photosynthesis. but, highly sensitive to drought thanks to all the water in the air.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:53 No.7411002
    ok, but fog comes from my nipples
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    Fog comes from my nipples
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:54 No.7411007
    Rainforests aren't foggy though. There's still shit growing up top that makes it possible to grow on bottom by providing nutrients and stuff.

    Lichens and mosses would be okay I think. Maybe some type of adapted slow growing plants or something grown with a combination of low sunlight/geothermal energy.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:55 No.7411010
    Fucked up atmosphere due to centuries of intensive energy weapons discharge
    >> parasitologist 01/03/10(Sun)16:56 No.7411020
    Human civilization wouldn't exist in such a world. Humans are sight hunters, and without the advantage of long-range sight, we die. Also, agriculture isn't viable, and even worse, cold becomes a whole lot more dangerous.

    Limiting the amount of sunlight entering a planet also limits the net energy entering the system. A fog-covered world probably just won't work.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:57 No.7411032
    Ferns. Lots of ferns. Moss everywhere, lichen, and other plants that can survive without much light. Very little wildlife, since there's not enough plant matter to support it. If it's at all warm, everything metal corrodes faster than it would in an average climate.

    Deep sea travel is all but impossible. Unless some magical form of navigation is developed, all ships will stay close to shore. Lighthouses will be everywhere, and I could see wars being fought over the right to emplace still more lighthouses.

    Undead are a major problem since there is no sunlight to keep them in check. Likewise blob monsters, who are normally limited by the threat of them drying up in the sun, would be more common. Mold monsters, fungus monsters. Firewood would be hard to come by, so the people would likely burn coal for heat.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)16:57 No.7411034
    Lots and lots of steam power, electronics would be hard to develop due to all the water. However, steam power would likely flourish. All military camouflage would be grey. Mushrooms would likely be the prime agricultural product. Buildings would most likely be sealed to make for a dry environment.

    Also, /tg/, what the fuck "HERPDERP NO WURLD OF FOG COULDN'T HAPPEN" No fucking shit, like you're the first one to think of that. This is a hypothetical world we are talking about.
    >> parasitologist 01/03/10(Sun)16:59 No.7411050

    Steam Power probably wouldn't happen. What are you going to use as fuel for your boilers? All the fuels used for steam power consist of biomass. Without the energy sunlight provides, these fuels become scarce. On a fog planet, energy itself is scarce.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:01 No.7411062
    You mean a fog-covered world with intelligent life wouldn't work, right? Because life exists in low-light conditions.

    The OP wasn't specifically asking for humans as far as I can tell. Maybe some type of reptile/insect civilization could evolve? They'd constantly be lethargic and their metabolism slowed down due to lack of sunlight, but since everything grows so slow they wouldn't starve. Dunno how slow-motion creatures would develop science and technology though.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:01 No.7411063
    Fog isn't the same as darkness guys, plants can still photosynthesise on a cloudy day.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:02 No.7411072
    Power would have to be generated from running water or geothermal sources. Fog belies a low amount of air movement, right?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:03 No.7411084
    OP still here? quick question.

    Has the world always been like this, or is the Fog a recent development that people are having to adjust completely to?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:03 No.7411091

    >how slow-motion creatures would develop science and technology though

    I'm guessing... slowly.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:03 No.7411093

    If the world was not always foggy, and I'll assume it wasn't, then coal or petroleum could fuel boilers. As this would be one of the few reliable sources of energy, wars might be fought over coal seams. At the very least, the other clan/country might countermine to try to get to it as well, leading to bloody fights with picks and shovels in the near darkness of the mines.

    With enough magic, fire elementals might be harnessed to run boilers. Just don't let them get loose.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:03 No.7411098
    this fog is going to need to be either magical in nature or in the event you don't want magic, the manifestation of a new branch of science using a new fundamental force and pile of particles to go with it because its going to need to carry some sort of energy in it for things to feed on so an ecosystem can be built
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:03 No.7411099
    true, but we could also work with something were a certain event caused the fog, so to adapt we build massive agricultural towers, the rich and the important live at the peak of these massive towers and the slums exist down in the fog. Makes for a good multi-layered setting.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:04 No.7411103
    A fog isn't a cloudy day. We're talking some pretty serious, consistently low-light conditions. Some plants might live, but a majority of agriculture as we know it wouldn't function in such a world.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:05 No.7411114

    MAGIC FOG or SCIENCE! FOG, no literal fog
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:07 No.7411135

    I'm thinking that steam boilers suspending ever more water in the air could be considered a kind of pollution... though I'm not sure if that actually works from a thermodynamic standpoint it would probably just cause more rainfall.

    On another note: Water vapor is a greenhouse gas so get ready for Jungle World... at the very least.
    >> parasitologist 01/03/10(Sun)17:08 No.7411154

    Coal and petroleum come from biomass. Without levels of sunlight characteristic to prehistoric earth, you don't get either.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:08 No.7411156
    venus fly-traps and the various other meat-eating plants occur in perma-fog conditions
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:08 No.7411157
    Yeah but jungles need immense amounts of both water AND sunlight, to much of either and you end up with a swamp or a desert.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:09 No.7411163
    Bioluminescent plants that other plants have adapted to gain photosynthetic energy from.

    Just to piss off all physics and biology fans in your group.

    Also because glowing plants are awesome.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:09 No.7411166
    assuming it's water vapor based fog anyway.

    I remember watching some discovery channel special about biblical myths and how they couldn't have possibly happened. One of them was about the flood and how if there was enough water to cover 99 percent of the land mass in the world, the air would be so saturated with fog that you'd actually drown if you tried to breath it in.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:10 No.7411178

    Well Desert is characteristic of a lack of water. The constant presence of fog would make that impossible.

    So yeah, Swamps.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:10 No.7411179
    >So, /tg/ world architects: what sort of cultural (etc.) developments would civilizations make in a world almost constantly covered in fog?
    >almost constantly covered in fog
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:10 No.7411181
    combine the above with the below
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:13 No.7411208
    wrong, extremely low precipitation makes a desert

    Antarctica is a desert despite there being water everywhere
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:13 No.7411216
    fog is a type of precipitation though isn't it?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:14 No.7411223
    Aren't there bacteria that derive energy from chemicals in the soil?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:14 No.7411229
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:14 No.7411230
    If the air is constantly foggy then that suggests a humidity near or at 100% so any extra water would quickly fall out as condensation or rain, yes.

    >>On another note: Water vapor is a greenhouse gas so get ready for Jungle World... at the very least.
    The world might be further from its sun than Earth, or there could be a lot of reflective stuff suspended in the high atmosphere, or...
    >> Anonymuos 01/03/10(Sun)17:15 No.7411233
    How high does this fog reach? You could simply have very tall trees that reach out of the fog.

    Also if the fog has been there forever then plants could have adapted to it and still flourished.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:16 No.7411262
    Yes, he just wanted to show off.
    >herp derp I know what makes a desert
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:16 No.7411264
    it isn't a fast process

    the only you will get a world that is habitable by life as we know it is to make up some pseudo-science or just write the fog off as magic, because if you want the world covered by fog in literal sense of the word, it isn't going to happen short of that
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:18 No.7411294
    A rainforest can be consistently low-light, Look at the great North western rainforest in the americas.

    alright, I'm a ecologist coming from biotech who has had courses involving extremophiles and all I can say is


    Did you mean Archea bacteria instead?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:19 No.7411306
    no fog is not a type precipitation

    fog forms under the exact same conditions as clouds, not rain/snow/sleet/etc
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:21 No.7411325
    one solution is use geothermal as the energy source.

    it results in a subterranean culture that doesn't use sight, instead relying on either sound or smell or touch. Probably would not venture to the surface too often, as they get away from where they gather food. causes other issues,but theres a start.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:21 No.7411333

    Fog reduces visibility, not light levels.

    Look at it this way. You have a set volume of clouds, right? Enough to cover everything to the horizon. Put those clouds up high, and you have an overcast day. Put them at ground level, and you have fog.

    The clouds will allow the same amount of light to reach the ground either way, but they'll block vision if they're down low, because the light bouncing off the earth is immediately reflected and refracted by the droplets of water in the air. This is why fog is grey or white and not black.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:23 No.7411359
    reducing visibility is the same thing as reducing light levels
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:24 No.7411375

    He is comparing fog vs. clouds.

    They both reduce light equally. Obviously a sunny day is better then both.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:26 No.7411403
    Not quite, it will hamper light levels but not to an extent that it's pure darkness Its just refraction of light is all.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:29 No.7411437

    A lot of light will be absorbed by the water vapor and converted into thermal energy though. Total energy from your local star would be equivalent but more of it would be in the form of less useful heat.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:31 No.7411465
    Indeed at which point things get steamy. Welcome to what is effectively a jungle world.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:33 No.7411504

    I can't stop laughing...
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    More on the technological and cultural side!
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    time travel
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:41 No.7411616
    fog would raise the albedo of the planet. queue fucking cold ass planet. if it's a permanent thing, which wouldn't happen unless it's being generated by something other than thermal energy from the sun, plants would have small ass leaves (think pine) adapted to cold
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:42 No.7411628
    Lighting is obviously gonna be the biggest technological concern. No one can get anything accomplished if they can't see shit in the fog. Find a convincing way to make effective foglights, and work from there.

    For instance, assume that the fog is magical. It could feasibly be figured that a light which dissipates the fog is also magical, and thus hard to come by. Rather than streetlamps on every corner, a city could be built around one huge foglamp rising from the swamp.

    That sort of thing?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:44 No.7411656
    I think it's dependant of the location. I mean, you've got rainforests near the equator, which are hot and the ones in regions like Washington, which are significantly cooler.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:46 No.7411666
    yeah also at which point you lose most of that fog as it turns to ices and snow. really there is no way for this to work unless you have magic.
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    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:50 No.7411705
    make it adjacent to Silent Hill.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:51 No.7411725
    So assuming the fog isn't magical, the further north, the clearer the fog would be. Would this cause most population centres to be in the north, sending folks into the fog to collect resources?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:52 No.7411738

    Steam power, fossil fuels. Would atomic power work? And stay the hell away from electricity. It wouldn't work.

    A culture I can imagine is a group of people that hunt silently and up close, laying in ambush and waiting for prey to come to them- it's too easy to lose prey in this. Same with what the other anon said about people making wars to fight over building lighthouses. A conflicted relationship between water- it brings them life, is all around, and primitives may think they breathe it- but it saps your energy, obscures your sight, and makes breathing difficult. It's a cold, dim world where they live. . .
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:53 No.7411756
    OP, consider how high the fog is, on average. Is it all the way up to the breathable atmosphere? 1/2 mile? 500 feet? 50 feet?

    Basically, the lower the fog, the more likely it is for the surface world to get a glimpse of the sun. If the fog is less than a few hundred feet tall, you an still have massive redwood-style trees.

    Consider how creatures might have adapted their sense to this environment. If

    Consider that some creatures will have adapted strategies for living above it, and some for living below it.

    Cultural developments: waterproofing is important. Fog fucks electronics, bowstrings, and primitive methods of starting fires up. So, most levels of tech are affected. Iron age might not have happened due to the increased corrosion rate. Oil is very important.

    Fabrics are always oiled to waterproof them. Sound-based signaling is more important than light-based signaling.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:54 No.7411778

    It would lead to superflora, such as the giant sequoia's of northern california; giant plants that reach up out of the fog, and low level plants that take advantage of the superplants.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:57 No.7411816


    Foggy hivemind
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)17:58 No.7411838
    so it would be cloud forests everywhere? also there are whole smaller stands of trees growing on the redwoods, it's not impossible to say sentients make life up in their boughs I would think.
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    Zakharov is not pleased at this idea. Planet must be silenced!
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    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)18:03 No.7411890
    Demon's Souls has a pretty cool one.

    In their world, a soul grants a living being clarity of thought and mind. The ability to perceive and think and understand is the gift of a soul.

    On this world, the Old One, is a soul devouring demon. And it is represented by an incomprehensible nothingness. A deep colorless fog spreads across the land, as everything from the creatures to the plants have their souls slowly devoured from them. The fog is a literal manifestation of the inability to perceive the world, all things becoming soul less. The fog only clears when a strong enough soul penetrates it.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)18:07 No.7411927

    I'm a steampunker who hates electricity.

    Tell me exactly why it wouldn't work? We can run electric cables under the ocean you know.
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    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)18:09 No.7411959
    After years of development. In a damper world, they never would've gotten past the experimental phase.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)18:11 No.7411985
    i was gonna suggest fog-lights you know the powerful headlights on cars really low to the road.

    actually i bet that would be one of the first things that gets invented, possibly even prior to the wheel.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)18:15 No.7412028
    Problem is that elctricity will be damn near useless, Fires are hard to start and maintain and pretty much unless you want to try and take down parts of a redwood like super plant you are not getting much wood.

    Civilization can't exist as we know it.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)18:16 No.7412045

    Where as your mode of power requires constant furnaces operating. Batteries store electricity we aren't talking about Tesla coils arcing uncontrollably underwater.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)18:17 No.7412048
    Key words being, as we know it, which I assume is why the OP started this thread.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)18:19 No.7412078
    OP will also eventually have to consider the religious and spiritual implications a world covered with fog has. And I suppose this one is pretty easily adaptable. >>7411890
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)18:20 No.7412094
    Let's see here...A valley filled with thick fog would have a huge variety of fungi, carnivorous plants, very tall plants that reach above the fog, and bio-luminescent plants.

    whoever lived there would probably depend on hearing instead of sight, unless they were tree-dwellers who built houses above the fog.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)18:28 No.7412192
    I'm just trying to imagine how creepy some of the creatures would end up being. Predators would have learned to adapt to the fog, probably finding ways to disturb it as little as possible until the final strike.

    No bright colors, no markings, just like grey hairless monstrosities that wait making no sound learning to hold their breath until the very last moment they pounce.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)18:29 No.7412200
    Fair enough, but it'd be a hell of a slow industry. The issue isn't necessarily that it'd kill anyone who came near it, it's that to use an electrical device in anything other than a sealed room would make the thing short out and fail. You could account for this with waterproofing, but they probably wouldn't get too complicated with it because there would be too many ways the device could destroy itself, and they have other shit to worry about.

    tl;dr, Simple stuff like lanterns are probably fine, but even mildly complex electronics would probably be impractical.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)18:39 No.7412349
    Would the fog be -that- thick, to short out most electrical devices?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)19:00 No.7412563

    Water isn't a very good conductor, I think corrosion would be the bigger problem.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)19:04 No.7412594
    Can anyone answer this? Or does fog still occur at extreme northern altitudes?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)19:39 No.7412997
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)19:57 No.7413219
    Redwood-like trees. Lots of them. There would probably be different species - fruit, nut, (maybe not conifers, except in the colder regions - where they would undoubtedly become the prime housing trees for the Aboreals).
    Assuming that the fog acts as a temperature equalizer, most of the world would b, in effect, a temperate rain forest, the ground carpeted in mulch, with lost of large-eyed life feasting on the fallen fronds from the emergent layer, far above. Humans (or humanoids) would likely live in two places.
    Terrestrials: The higher elevations, where the fog would be less dense, or non-existent - farming, raising goats.
    Aboreals: Some would probably live in the emergent layer (the canopy) and hunt birds, and eat fruits and nuts.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)20:00 No.7413274

    In Alaska we had "Ice Fog". The humidity just crystallized out of the air. Hoarfrost grew on metal surfaces, infinitesimal micro-snowflaked slowly fell past the streetlights. You could get half an inch of "snow" overnight just from the fog. The Wiki article says Ice Fog only occurs at -40 F, but we had what WE called ice fog all the time in Anchorage.

    So yes, you can have fog even when it's very cold.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)20:06 No.7413339
    If that fog is because the world has a short draw distance, things would be pretty fucking weird.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)20:09 No.7413388
    Lung infections due to water-logging effects would likely be common, as well as mold, and fungi would be rampant (yaaay, food source!).
    Fishing would doubtless be a very important part of the humanoid food chain. Birds of prey, especially those that feed on fish, would have their greatest asset - their vision - nearly gone.
    Other birds, like woodpeckers, nut, and fruit eaters, would probably not to too badly, as they would live primarily in the upper canopies.
    In the lower regions, bats might reign supreme, as far as fliers go - probably only to get caught in massive spider webs, or some other stalking predator.
    Of course, there are many bats with great eye-sight that would probably hand out in the under-canopy. Being nocturnal, some species might become carnivores beyond the average insectivore, hunting out sleeping birds. They would likely be much more adept at climbing and crawling than bats today.
    Ants, or a similar cleanup creature, would definitely be common on the floor.
    The bottom regions of airspace would likely be inhabited by all sorts of fliers, who would try their damnedest to avoid the floor, because of the voracious hoards there.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)20:11 No.7413423
    Just go to Britain.

    See that advancements they've made over the years.

    You'll have your answer.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)20:17 No.7413485
    The seeds of these trees would be pretty hugenormous, since they'd need to grow a lot before they could get at that yummy sunlight.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)20:19 No.7413528
    Cave life in this fog would would likely be unchanged, as would most sub-terrestrial and aquatic life, so if someone wants to tackle those, I'd be appreciative (I've run out of ideas, as far as biologies are concerned).

    Society among the Arboreal and their higher-elevated kinsfolk would likely be very different.
    Those living on the mountain would probably live sparse, settled, clan-based lives, with a great importance on ritual, law, and civility.
    Those in the canopies would be much more of a community, nomadic in nature, and would set a much greater importance on rank, popularity, and ability.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)20:21 No.7413566
    The trees must grow like aspens or certain weeds and grasses then. Interconnected root systems rather than seeds being the manner of propagation of the species.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)20:23 No.7413595
    Maybe the seeds would begin growing before they dropped from the trees?
    This would require them to have a large store of energy, and they would be an important resource to nut-eaters, despite the thick shells.
    Fruit might be largely vine-based, growing from the excrement that landed on branches that still received enough sunlight.
    I'm tired of typing now, and am a little drunk, so I'll check back after a nap.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)21:02 No.7414113
    >Massive spider webs
    With tons of humiduty and the greenhouse-esque heat effect that was being thrown about we can have HUEG spiders. Like fuckoff huge. I'm an aussie, and I don't want to see these things. Due to low light, etc. they'd be mainly web spiders, although compound eyes would do ok compared to normal eyes in fogland.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)21:21 No.7414438
    How cold would the colder areas get with the fog's greenhouse effect, assuming that the sun for such a world is at a distance optimal to sustain life on such a world?
    >> TheLionHearted !HAGYQOveO. 01/03/10(Sun)21:28 No.7414532
    The natives would develop photosensitivity and their eyes would develop at a slower rate or not at all.. They would have a hyper developed sense of hearing due to the denser air. They would have larger lungs, too.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)21:29 No.7414564
    Yes. Trees need a lot of water with a high transpiration rate that this offers they will thrive and grow huge.

    Actually no. Redwood seeds are extremely small for example. Same with trees such as Black cherry and other moisture loving trees.
    >> TheLionHearted !HAGYQOveO. 01/03/10(Sun)21:36 No.7414681
    They might also have larger noses to pick up smell over the scent of the water or develop electrosensitivity like sharks have.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)21:41 No.7414740
    Electro sensitivity sounds cool. Lets go with some of that and the hearing. Smelling marshy fog planet all the time would suck.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)21:46 No.7414833
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)21:50 No.7414897
    Use every fury-ok charm possible every time you let loose a Relentless Lunar Fury
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)21:51 No.7414903
    Couldn't plants just evolve to grow taller and thus get to more sunlight? And what about mountains and such? Wouldn't there be plants and such on them which would thrive better?
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)21:57 No.7414991


    they swim through fog. If you climb a tree to get away, you can see the fins circling beneath you.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)21:57 No.7414993
    Flowers would be a thing of the upper branches of the taller trees, and canopy plants. The ground would likely be mostly mossy with a few ferns. Any finer leaves, gaudy flowers, or sweet fruit will not be able to support itself near the ground.

    Therefore deer and the like will be much smaller and more compact, sustaining themselves on meager greens. And the herds wouldn't be large. Proportionally insects and amphibians would be much more dominant.

    Under water light is an even greater issue, and lack of it will compress the layers of life against the surface. Fish wouldnt grow very large, and thered be more crustaceans and worms. Less UV in the water means more particles and bacteria, so filtering an boiling water might be standard practice.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)21:57 No.7414998
    If there were specific days of the year or moments where there would be no fog they would almost certainly be holidays; possibly with religious significance. The areas on those days which lack fog if it wasn't almost everywhere would be hallowed ground.

    There would be creation stories and myths about how the world was once clear and without fog but then 'humans' did something to cause the shroud.

    Weather predictions would be much more vested in figuring out how thick the fog would be.

    In this world there would be weather anomaly's where the fog became a thick wall that you wouldn't be able to see through at all. Wind powered machines would be prized for their ability to lower or maybe completely remove fog from an area.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)22:08 No.7415168
    The cultures of people living in such a world would be less concerned with the horizon and traveling to new lands. I imagine them to be timid and introverted, very defensive of their lands, and with a great tradition of storytelling and reasoning.

    There will not be any great cities since providing food for such dense populations would be difficult and expensive. Carrying around a light source makes you blind in fog, but important roads might be lit.

    The shorter daylight hours would make for a vivid nightlife. Important items and symbols would be made of glazed ceramics rather than wood or metal. Corrosion would be the main issue in building maintenance, and a wood-fungus more dangerous than termites. Infected wounds would be a mortal danger. And preserving food a constant issue.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)22:11 No.7415217
    The artwork would be stunning, but it would take days to dry
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)22:13 No.7415258
    Animals would have exceptionally developed olfactory organs
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)22:16 No.7415304
    There really wouldn't be deer, they need things like woody browse to sustain a population. Really megafauna(anything greater than a hundred pounds) would be rare as hell in the understory.
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)22:25 No.7415436
    also they would need to be semi-fishman cause their lungs would need to be able to process the water in the air, maybe suffocating them in non-fog atmosphere
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)22:31 No.7415530
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)23:16 No.7416230
    Welcome to the world of Final Fantasy 9
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)23:29 No.7416391
    honestly im reminded of the Hork-Bajir book from animorphs by a lot of this talk, damn good nostaliga
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)23:31 No.7416417
    we did just pretty much create that world, feel kinda good about it, but then, we were beaten to it too
    >> Anonymous 01/03/10(Sun)23:33 No.7416454
    i loved those books, and i thought that was one of the best extra books there was
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)00:17 No.7416937
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    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)00:54 No.7417298
    World, not just a single location of a planet. :P
    >> Anonymous 01/04/10(Mon)01:54 No.7418154
    Ooooh. Do continue this thread!
    >> Marquis de fenetre 01/04/10(Mon)01:56 No.7418178
    The movie Speed would've been way more thrilling

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