Commit suicide.

We are currently heading east towards the city of Neuvo Laredo, to try and catch the Federal forces heading towards it in the rear.

Almost all of your Mobile Suits have taken moderate to severe damage, the engineers are working around the clock to try and repair them in the 4 hours they have but it will be tight.

Yay, ZeonQuest.

Now... How can we prank our crew.... Wait, We have be responsible now that we are a Lt.Commander? That sucks.

>>8418290
No, we have to be responsible because we're in the middle of a mission. We can do whatever we want once we're back at base.

STATUS

Currently aboard the Zanzibar Kai class Assault Cruiser "Outer Heaven."

HANGAR

MS-09 Dom (Heavy damage)
MS-09 Dom (Moderate Damage)
MS-06E Flipper Recon Zaku (Undamaged)
MS-07B-3 Gouf Custom (Moderately Damaged - Lost Gatling on shield, no available replacements)
MS-09K2 Dom Cannon (Light Damage)
Rhinoceros Mobile Armour (Heavy Damage, Missing Port Side Flank Gun.)

Pilot Roster
David Lister
Zolomon Ringo
Jolyne Brande
Elaine "Ruubens" Arronax
Hovis Goddard
Calvin Hobart
Unit Operator: Anita Fairchilds

I said; commit suicide.

>>8418372
Seeing how we can't do anything right now... Let's talk to Anita.

We really should develop her character a bit.

>>8418410

What would you like to discuss with your bridge-bunny, ah, I mean Operator?

>>8418290
Start asking "Are we there yet?" every ten minutes.

>>8418445
Where was she born? What are her dreams and aspirations?

>>8418445

Smalltalk, What Colony she is from, Where she studied and what she is planning to do after the war is over.

Sacrifice her to Tezcatlipoca. The great god will smile upon our efforts if we do.

>>8418472

Whilst the tech repair your suits you head up to the bridge area to get a better idea of the tactical situation... but mostly to rubberneck.

Anita salutes you when you enter.
Captain Fontaine greets you as well.
"Good work in Chihuahua Commander, it looks like they took heavier losses than they bargained for. We got word that they took the city shortly after we left, but we've got no reports of them moving on just yet."

You salute back and take a closer look at the map.

"So Anita, how did you end up joining the military?"

"Well sir, I signed up in early 77 in Signals and Traffic Control. Originally I was working in the A Boa Qu docks, but I got reassigned to the Outer Heaven when it left the Fortress."

"So your from Side 3?"

"Yup. Born and raised, I'm a third generation spacenoid, my Great-Granparents moved into space during the initial emigration waves."

You take a closer look at the tactical map.

>>8418543

That better not be a reference to Moon Moon, we don't talk about that shit.
We just don't.
It's like the elves in Warmachine.

Hi, I missed last week's Zeonquest and they're not up on sup/tg/ is there anywhere I can get a quick recap?

>>8418621

Start asking if we are there yet, Then re-ask every 5 minutes.

>>8418650
Apologized saved them to his hard drive, he can give you the download links. On that note, are you going to send them to the guy who runs Sup/tg/ so that they get uploaded Apologized?

>>8418675

Probably, the only problem is that we made a fair number of maps and plans and what not, and I didn't use DownThemAll, so they're essentially lost.

I'll still probably email the both of them over, but they wont have any images.

>>8418711
Really? well that sucks. Anyway, what are our plans for when we arrive at Laredo? I was thinking we'd set down behind the enemies forces and sneak attack them from behind.

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A quick check of the map reveals that the enemy forces are believed to have gotten as far as the lake of Venustiano Carranza, after the battle of Monclova, the Federation forces diverted eastwards cross county, and the rough, rocky terrain slowed their advance. But it also made the exact position and size of their forces harder to ascertain.

Friendly units have been stationed in the town of Don Martin, but their under orders to retreat back to the reinforced defensive lines if attacked with overwhelming numbers.

>>8418871
Sooooo.... Are we there yet?

Also, Marida is best Zeon Newtype... Even if she is damaged goods.

Here's a local area map, green is your forces and blue is the SUSPECTED direction of the primary Federation forces.

>>8418965
Land behind them. Sneak up in our mobile suits. Have the Outer heaven gain altitude and race ahead of the enemy forces, then come down in front of them. While they surge forwards to deal with the Outer Heaven, probably expecting us to come out of it, we attack them from behind, catching them in a pincer. We should probably keep Hovis with the Outer Heaven so that they don't suspect anything, which they might if they realize that he's absent.

>OUR DOM HAS A GUN, THAT MEANS THAT IT'S A GUN-DOM!

...I apologised on 4chan !!O1JS15Z6lxy, you are hereby under orders from the Adeptus /M/echanicus to return to /m/ immediately for evaluation of mental fitness before you can be permitted to continue Project: ZeonQuest any further.

Failure to comply WILL result in extreme measures being taken.

>We should probably keep Hovis with the Outer Heaven so that they don't suspect anything, which they might if they realize that he's absent.

Yeah, about that.

Shortly after taking off, the tech team approach you. Apparently in the 4 hours needed to reach the combat zone they don't think they have enough time to repair everything.

OKAY HERES THE DEAL.

YOU HAVE 6 REPAIR POINTS TO SPEND ON THIS JOURNEY.

A MOBILE SUIT THAT IS:
MODERATELY DAMAGED: 1 POINT
HEAVILY DAMAGED: 2 POINTS

THE RHINO WILL TAKE 4 Points to repair.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8419138

I'll have you know that remark is another one of my MANY adventures in plagarism!

>>8419148
Alright, it looks like we have enough points to repair everything except the rhino, and have 2 points left over.

Zeonquest brunch last sunday was delicious.

Next time there needs to be a thread on the same day, though.

Pic obviously very related.

Reapair:

Dom(Moderate) [1]
Gouf(Moderate) [1]
Rhino(Heavy) [4]

And what about th Dom cannon? It is light damaged, Do we get it for free or does it cost points?

>>8419208
But that will leave one Dom with heavy damage! If we leave the Rhino as it is, it can stay on the back of the Outer Heaven and bombard the enemy with its missiles and main cannon, and hopefully keep from getting hit, seeing as most of the shots will be from below and it will be on top of the ship.

>>8419208

I'd say that you can get it for free if you repair something heavily damaged.

Also, the Katy is a beast in GvsGNext+ I'll have you know. If only it was a bit nippier.

>>8419208
Seconding, the Rhino needs to be healthy

>>8419265
>>8419208
Gah! Don't you see what's happening? You're doing exactly what Zeon does in canon, putting more effort and time into one-off super weapons instead of concentrating on the main part of our forces.

Right, well, I'm going to get my Dinner now, whilst you talk amongst yourselves, and my computer downloads the rulebook for Warmaster.

>>8419239
Go with >>8419208 with Fries,A Coke and a free Dom Cannon.

And of course the Kshatriya is awesome. but it looks weird without the Binders.

>>8419304
>And of course the Kshatriya is awesome. but it looks amazing without the Binders.

Fixed.

>>8419289

Actually, This is because Hovis is more accustomed to the Rhino then another MS, And it´s long range capabilities is good for Back attacks.

And by repairing the Rhino we can use our Combined Arms tactics... That are essentially our combination attack. Not to mention that if we get a free Dom Cannon then we also have a solid long range team(Flipper,Rhino and Dom Cannon), And a Solid melee team(Gouf and other Dom), The only bad part is that we are benching Reubens for a single mission.

>>8419289
The Rhino/hrothiglarasdsdada has proved itself to be reliable on many occasions. A healthy mobile armor is a big advantage for us.

>>8419304
Okay so you give orders to repair the
Dom(Moderate) [1]
Gouf(Moderate) [1]
Rhino(Heavy) [4]

This means that Zolomons Gouf will remain moderately damaged. Also, it's shield will not be replaced.

So, what's the plan? Keep in mind that you're probably not going to have the numbers to take down the entire enemy force without help from the local forces.

With all of the minovsky particles about, your best bet is to try to check in with the picket forces in San Martin so they can report to Nuevo Laredo that you've arrived.

Then you can orchestrate a combined assault.

Of course if you have any better ideas, now's the time.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8419374
>Thinks the heavily damaged Dom is Elaine's.

Oh you. That's OUR Dom. But it looks like I'm out-voted, so I guess we'll see what happens.

>>8419374
Suppose...suppose we sit this one out?

We'll run it by Zol, but I'd like to see if Ruby can step up to the plate on this one. I mean, now that we're rising in rank we should look to broaden our scope a tad. I mean, we are a damned fine ace, but suppose we can make more, rather than just "Lister kills everything" again?

>>8419413
>Gouf(Moderate) [1]
>This means that Zolomons Gouf will remain moderately damaged. Also, it's shield will not be replaced.

Say what?

>>8419413
Meet with picket line, then >>8419022

Bring in the local forces to support the outer heaven.

>>8419440

Ah, good catch. I thought that was odd. Okay, one Dom wont be fully repaired, who get's what is really up to you though.

>>8419429
"Elaine, I know you don't have rank out there, but I'm trusting you to accomplish this mission. You're just about the best all around pilot we have *coBESIDESMEugh* and Zol gets a little too riled up sometimes. I want you to take the lead."

>>8419504
Do it.

>>8419429
>>8419428

Well, It can´t hurt to be Mission control this once.

Anyway, We drop behind the enemies, The Flipper acts as a Spotter while the Rhino bombards the enemy form afar, As the enemy turns around the OH would have gone around the enemy lines (preferably undetected) and do a hit and run back attack, Then quickly Rendezvous with the Artillery team and pick them and escape.

OH Team: OH, Dom(Reubens)
Artillery Team: Flipper,Rhino, Gouf.

The Dom and Gouf are there to defend the Teams if anything goes wrong.

This is essentially a tactic to delay and disrupt the Feddies, Not actually mangle them completely over, we are unfortunately still in too bad shape to realistically manage that.

I´ll post a image to clarify what i mean if neccesary.

>>8419504
Meanwhile, we're desperately sitting at a panel trying to force NEKKID MIND WARP!

...I mean, coordinating, but giving Ruby some leeway to run things. We only intervene if we think we HAVE to.

>>8419541
You're going to need to be a bit more clear. Why is Ruuben's Dom in the Outer Heaven if she's supervising the mission? Why isn't Jolyne's Dom Cannon with the artillery team? Why do you say there's a Dom guarding the artillery team when the team you listed for artillery doesn't include a Dom?

I'm gonna say we should definitely link up with local forces. We don't know the size or disposition of enemy forces right now, and it'd be good not to do this on our own, given that this force may be around the same size as the last on we took on.

>>8419702
Yeah, and we totally kicked their ass! We'd have done way ,ore damage if it wasn't for those damn insurgents, but I doubt there are any here in the mountains.

But yeah, we should hook up with the locals first and then plan our attack.

>>8419611

Postan crappy paint pic in hopes that it will clarify.

The plan essentially boils down to, "Let's Split up gang."

The Artillery team is essentially a diversion to make the Feddies turn around so the OH can do some bombardments of their own, The Dom is with the OH, in case the OH itself is ambushed, And the Gouf is with the Artillery team if anything gets too close for comfort to them. Both are essentially guards/escorts.

I guess one can change so the Gouf is with the OH instead, if you want that (I too would prefer that since Zolomon might take getting orders from a young girl the wrong way), And yes, The DomCannon is indeed with the artillery team.

Just to confirm: we don't have El Muerto Gigante with us, do we?

>>8419722

Forgot to mention, Red=Feddies,Green= OH Team and Blue/Grey= Artillery team.

>>8419722
Zol's a bro. So long as we remind him about some of his poorer decisions (Betting a date with Jolyne, using team-fragging technology, et al) he should be cool with sticking to breaking shit.

>>8419722
It's a good plan, and is sorta like what I suggested before, but maybe we should make the OH the bait, rather than expose the artillery to the main brunt of the enemy attack. And yeah, keep Zol with the OH since he can fit on a Dodai and help with any fighters they might have.

>>8419611

We could indeed roll out the Dom Canon too. It's only lightly damaged and it's gonna operate under the protection of the Battleship.

And btw, what are the local forces of our side? What sort of resistance can we expect?

>>8419722

How far can our arty shoot and how does the territory look? We could possibly send them hoovering over the lake and river if they're propperly covered from airstrikes, bomb the feddies flank, maybe even draw off some of their ground forces and have them fall back over the lake again.

>>8419722

It's not a bad plan, but if there's as any Feddies as I suspect, we'll probably need a whole lot more force than we have to deal with them. Not to mention that if they have significant air forces or artillery we'd be screwed. We were alright before because we were in a city they didn't want to wreck, with civilians they didn't want to kill. But if they're free to just bombard the hell out of our general area then a handful of MS and MA won't last minutes.

This is supposed to be one of the main forks of the Feddie attack, after all.

>>8419754

Good, Point, The artillery unit should have a easier time to sneak around the Feddies then the high profile OH too.

Guys, remember that the OH is shot up too, it won't be able to operate with impunity in an area with lots of Feddie air power, and we don't have any Dopps or anything of our own right now. We really need to get to the Zeon forces at San Martin and see what's going on there before we make any complex plans of our own.

>>8419722

Good. But I would deploy the entire MS contingent with the artillery team.

The Outer Heaven should make one attack run, at the conclusion of which it picks up the ground force. I doubt any of our MS's can keep up with it - even mounted on a Dodai. So anyone staying with the Outer Heaven would just be dead weight - or worse, slow us down.

Phoque year Zeonquest.

NEWTAIPU PURESSHA!

>>8419816
>>8419818

Yes, It is shot up pretty badly, Hence why this is essentially a hit and run operation, Just a brief stop to delay the enemies enough so we reach the base before them.

We can´t really beat them, But that´s not our job right now either, Our job right now is to make sure our defensive line holds, And one of the things that we can do so it does, Is to delay the Feddies enough so our base is ready to greet them.

Since we havn't yet linked up with local forces and don't know how bad Feddie AA will be how about we drop the entire MS contingent under Elaine's control behind the enemy to recon the area. Meanwhile, we take the OH SE to link up with local troops and find out what information they have, and arrange to com the MS squad with what we find

>>8419906
Yes, but if we get the OH shot down our ability to do much of anything dissipates. I think it is premature to have it preform an attack run before we know more about the situation. Even if the Feddies have moved through the area and are already on the way to our defense line that's still useful information and we would be in a perfect position to cut their supply routes

>>8419918
>>8419948

Hmm, Well the best plans alway incorporate several ideas so...

How far are we from base?

We could have the MS detachment drop down and distract the Feddie Force while OH sneaks past to the base, And requests a premature attack as fast as we can.

But that plan sounds extremely suicidal since the MS team can´t make a clean gettaway without the OH coming out and distracting them again., And we kinda need to go past the Feddies to reach the base if i got things right.

Also, Have Newtype MS Kangaroo.

>>8420019
>How far are we from base?

You are about halfway into your journey, the defence area of San Antonio is about 2 hours away. But the attack will definately have started by the time you arrive. Also, San Antonio isn't a dedicated military base, they may not have the resources to repair the Outer Heaven. Although they can probably fully repair the Mobile Suits.

>>8420019
We can order Elaine to try to avoid contact unless it's a scout, convoy or other force they can overwhelm. If the MS squad is attacked they can fall back towards the Ejido El Alamo area to link up with us. Any Fed forces pursuing them are being pulled off of their line of advance and therefore a net win for Zeon

>>8420019

Well, the OH is almost certainly the fastest and most versatile transport in the theatre, so why not just fly into San Martin and get a sitrep there? If they have a plan or any info on Feddie strength, then great, if not, we can go scout in force, maybe do some ambushes of rear area units.

ALSO, unless it's too late I'm gonna place my vote to repair everything except the Rhino this time. For the moment it's probably better to just use it as an extra AA/artillery emplacement on top of the OH (unless I'm an idiot and that's impossible)

>>8420081
note that by local forces I mean the detachment in Don Martin, which should hopefully have some updated intelligence and maybe a hardline to the main line, rather than going all the way back to the main line ourselves

>>8420069

Since they aren't a proper base the delay is very likely to be needed.

So i say we do the delay, With the OH starting the attack while the MS team sneaks behind and back attacks them when they turn around, The both flee like their asses was on fire.

Since the OH can´t take many more hits it should start retreating pretty much immediately after the 2 intial volleys, So we are out of attack range when the Feddies have turned around.

>>8420069

Well, if the attack is already started by the time we get there, contact them via laser com if we can, and get a sitrep. If not, come in behind the Feddie forces and go after artillery and land battleships.

>>8420069
Can you address this? >>8419725

It would help.

>>8420069
I have an idea. Keep going until we reach Laredo, telling the forces in Don Martin to retreat back with us(Yeah, unless they have some Gaws they'll have to go on foot, but they should be able to keep ahead of the feddies.)

Then we can consolidate all our defenses at Laredo, and have some more time to repair.

>>8420147

We do not, we asked at the end of last weeks episode.

The Outer Heaven drops of the MS contingent and then heads to meet up with the local forces, informing them of our impeding spoiling attack.

Meanwhile the Nachtmaren MS move into position (this includes pinpointing the main Federation force) and after a pre-determined time start shelling.

By then the Outer Heaven should be on its way for a pickup. On the way in it strafes any enemies which have turned around to deal with the MS.

>>8420215

Sounds good to me.

>>8420215
Agreed, as long as by local force you mean the Don Martin contingent. I don't think we should spend the time to go to San Antinio

Goddammit, I'm busy, and I have class in an hour. Why the FUCK did we repair the Rhino when it's our Standoff Unit? Standoff as in WAY THE FUCK FAR AWAY FROM ANYTHING BAD IF IT WANTS TO BE?

Christ, are we bugfuck RETARDED all of a sudden? We could have fixed all of our damage suits and half-fixed the Rhino. That strikes me as a MUCH better option.

Anyway, it looks like our operational capacity is very limited for this little raid. Goddammit and I have class soon. Fuck. Ok, well, my plan.

OH moves in with a Dopp escort we've snagged from the base. It Beam Cannons any targets of opportunity on the way in, drops us, falls back. We move into the city, prioritizing supply depots and targets of opportunity. Since our Suits can't handle another protracted engagement we focus absolutely on shooting and scooting. Whatever we can't find and blow up in a short period of time (15-30 mins) does not get blown up. We move back to the OH, and move on.

>>8420215
>>8420283

So: Go to San Antonio or head to Don Martin?

>>8420335

THis, I like this. Don't worry man I'll push your plan for you. *brofist*

>>8420365
I say Don Martin. We can always continue to san antinio from there if we need to

>>8420365

Don Martin.

>>8420365

Don Martin.

>>8420366
*brofist*

Thanks. My vote is for Don Martin.

>>8420335

There was no option to partly repair anything, It was fully repair it or leave it broken.

Not only that, From what i got it we are attacking actual forces moving to attack our Base, Not a Feddie base this time around, So there are probably no supply depots around, Possibly transports.

Okay, Don Martin it is then.

Also, on the subject of squad leaders, I should point out that you'll need two, one for the LR Support Squad, the other for the Multi-Role Squad.

>>8420365

Also, we (meaning Dave) stay on the Outer Heaven with the damaged Dom. So, if anything is fishy there (like... the town being deserted... or taken over by Feddies), we have at least one ground unit to do the investigating.

>>8420444
Still, Hovis can sit miles away from the action, and still have an effective force on target. No one else, except Jolyne, and not to the same degree, has that. So we repaired him, and left the majority of our fast, high damage units that have to be considerably closer to be effective. And we have now relegated them to Guard duty.

Strikes me as ten different kinds of stupid.

>>8420473

The units still functional, just with a lot of holes in it. You COULD sortie in it, but it'd be a risk.

>>8420473
Yep, 's what I said.

>>8420458
Elaine for the Multi-role with Zol, Hovis in charge or the LR (dunno what that even means) with Jolyne and Hobbes.

>>8420510
My point precisely. We had a way to make them not have holes in them, and we decided to have the closest thing we have to a static unit repaired instead of the majority of our fieldable forces.

*soniamdisapoint.jpg*

>>8420513

Long Range

>>8420513
LR = Long Range

And I guess we're sitting things out and coordinating from the Outer Heaven?

>>8420542
I blame that Funnel namefag. He seems awfully derpy, but posts frequently enough that everyone is listening to him.

>>8420546
Ah, thanks.

>>8420458

Jolyne leads the support team and is in overall command (she outranks Elaine).

Elaine leads the multirole (guard) team.

>>8420444
>There was no option to partly repair anything, It was fully repair it or leave it broken
That's about thirty seven different kinds of stupid.

>>8420575
He has his ups and downs. This was one of his downs. Like the syndrome.

>>8420577
Makes sense to me.

>>8420554

Until the Doms repaired, which will take about an hour yes.

Anyway, so the general plan is to reach Don Martin, link up with friendly forces there and then work out how best to ambush the federation forces?

>>8420604
What are you talking about? It makes perfect sense that if you can't completely fix it in the time before the battle you might as well not work on it at all!

/sarcasm

>>8420473

However, The Rhino had ALSO lost the weapons that allowed it to sit so far back, So not repairing it would have been even worse, Since it would be a sitting Duck.

Like Apologized said, The Dom may be heavily damaged, But it can still sortie if needed, And the Rhino have proved to be a reliable workhorse.

And while the Dom is a high damage unit we will quite quickly be relegated to base defense pretty soon, And in that situation a good condition artillery unit is more valuable.

And like i said, We couldn't half repair anything, At least as far as i had heard of.

>>8420615
It lost a GATLING CANNON you fucking retard. Not its main gun. Jesus fucking christ.

>>8420542

I wouldn't call the Rhino 'static'. It's an extremely mobile heavy artillery unit. And as we do not have the forces available to got toe to toe with the Feds this time round, long range units are what we want. It makes perfect sense to keep them fully operational and foregoing another pretty useless (in an artillery raid) Dom for that.

>>8420577
>Jolyne leads the support team and is in overall command (she outranks Elaine).

>Elaine leads the multirole (guard) team.

You order the group dispositions, Zolomon grouses for bit until you give him the Evil Eye. He then backs down.

>>8420615
No, it lost one of it's rear flack turrets. It's missiles and main cannon were still in perfect shape.

>>8420610
Yep.

>>8420610
Sounds good to me.

>>8420625
A Dom is never ever ever useless. And since when is this an Artillery Raid? I thought we were defending a base? If that's the case, yeah, Arty is way fucking useful. But that means Hovis can sit on top of the OH and get angles and whatnot, and be hidden from enemy fire. If we're not defending base than we're hit and fading advancing Fed forces which is more or less the Dom's sweet spot. Learn your Mobile Tactics or be quiet.

>>8420542

.... You realize the Rhino is descended from Hildorf right?

THIS Hildorfr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCV1xZ_NdgI

Do you call that Static? It's bad at close range, And we have used it as a Long range unit because it is great at it, But it can still kick ass in Midrange fights.

>>8420610

We drop of the MS contingent (minus Dave's damaged Dom) before heading for Don Martin.

While the Outer Heaven continues to Don Martin and links up, the MS contingent moves into position for the attack.

>>8420680
Whoops, forgot something. Except in space. Then a Dom is useless. Rick Dom is not.

>>8420681
I would take 2 Doms, a Dom Cannon, and a B3 Gouf over a Rhino any day of the week and a million fucking times on Sunday. I'm not saying its static, I'm saying its our MOST static unit. It's the only unit that can fire from MILES away. (Except for Jolyne) And if you watch the ENTIRE Episode it was never supposed to be fighting that close. It's Gun Calibrations were off, so it had to get close. And let's not forget what got the Rhino fucked up in the first place was a midrange battle with TANKS. You know, the kind we have been EATING ALIVE FOR TIME IMMEMORIAL.

>>8420636
Well, let's see how the team can handle things without us there. Stupid decisions aside, it should be interesting to find out.

>>8420740
Alright, now that I've laid down the law, time to go turn in a project. I'll prolly be back in ten, twenty minutes. Don't get us killed.

Fuck, I should get a tripcode.

>>8420681
The point is is that it's made for long range and doesn't need repairs as badly as our front-line suits. And since we would have had 2 points left over, that time could have been spent repairing some or the damage to it, maybe fixing up the armor but leaving the flack turret destroyed. That way it looses a small amount of its firepower to get back its armor, and since it will be keeping far away from the enemy it's not like it would even need the close range flack turret anyway.

>I thought we were defending a base?

Guess what? You thought wrong.

Hit and fade would have been a possibility, but we need a speedy pick-up by the Outer Heaven. Which itself is damaged. So we want the pick-up to be as far away as possible from the Federation forces. A long range spoiling attack (for which Nachtmaren is geared) allows for exactly that, without exposing either the Outer Heaven or the ground team too much.

>>8420740

That's fair enough, but we've got most of those anyways, all we're not fielding right now is our Dom, and it'll be repaired in an hour anyways.

Either way, what's done is done, and it's not like it's a terrible decision or anything, even if it's not optimal. I'm more interested in the coming fight now anyways.

>>8420784
Ah, right, Don Martin, not San Antonio. My bad.

But you're still a fucking moron. Hovis' main gun wasn't damaged. At all. The point you're making is totally valid, a long range spoiler attack is perfect. And it could have still been done while repairing all of our significantly damaged suits. See, Hovis is relatively safe, despite missing a flak gun and some armor, because, as you have so brilliantly pointed out, HE CAN ATTACK FROM WAY THE FUCK OVER THERE.

Thanks for proving my argument.

NOW I'm off to class.

>since it will be keeping far away from the enemy it's not like it would even need the close range flack turret anyway.

But then we would have been banking on the Feds not being able to close in, flank us, or whatever.

We absolutely have to deploy the Rhino, because it represents such a massive part of our firepower. Question was: If we have to deploy it, then how do we make sure it survives?

>>8420844
By keeping it the fuck away from the enemy. Like you do with ANY artillery.

>>8420765

Well, To be honest i was under the impression that you know, Heavily damaged meant unusable and we only could fully repair suits, And i felt that Putting a single MS on the bench would allow us to tackle more diverse opereations then if we went overspecialized with only MSes, I mean, That was why i went, Gouf(Close range),Dom(Mid Range) and Rhino(Long range), Not to mention that the Flipper was undamaged, And works best in tandem with the Rhino.

This way we only need to bench a single non unique suit then having to bench a unique one that works better with a unit that is already available.

This way we can adapt multiple combat situations and work as our Combined Tactical Arms Doctrine deems efficent.

>>8420889
>>8420840

Guys, less hostility please, we're all on the same side here (Zeon).

Repairing different units each had merit. If we'd repaired all the other MS but not the Rhino, we probably wouldn't deploy it, and have a more concentrated mobile force. Since we did repair it, we have two forces with more flexibility. It's all good. Lets just wait and see what happens next rather than belaboring our different opinions on something that already happened.

>>8420918
Yeah, ok, whatever, let's just quit arguing/justifying and wait for Apoligized to post the opening fight.

>>8420918
Except that we could have gotten the same thing if we'd repaired the other Dom, it just would have meant one less flack turret. For better or for worse, you sacrificed an entire MS just so that the rhino would be at 100% instead of remaining slightly damaged, which doesn't even matter because it will be staying way out of range of the enemy and probably won't get hit anyway.

>>8420889

You mean the enemy whose exact postion, heading, and force composition we do not know, and who probably knows the terrain better and almost certainly outnumbers us at least 10:1? (And who might be supported by local insurgents, remants of the Mexican army, and whatnot?)

Against that enemy I'd rather have fully functional units in the field, thank you very much (could have been a fully functional Dom though - in whcih case we would have gone for hit and run instead of long range raid). Because against that enemy we just cannot make sure to stay out of range.

No number on this Zeonquest? How far up are we, episode 40+?

Fuck west point. Future officers should partake in Zeonquest, get all the tactical training they need.

>>8421019
And that's why you scout the area with the Flipper and get intel from local forces.

Artillery stays away from the main fight. The Rhino, for all it's flack guns and missile pods and armor, is an artillery unit first, main-line tank second.

Hey, I know people have different opinions on what should have been done, I probably would have too if I had been here in time for that decision, but what's done is done. The repairs have already been made , so can we concentrate on what we are able to do at this point

Okay, as you get closer to Don Martin and Neuvo Laredo, you meet up with a unit of friendly Dopps. They escort you part of the way until you get closer to the Lake.

The entire area is one massive dogfight. The area is thick with enemy fighters and fighter/bombers. They don't appear to have seen you yet.
You're primary options will be to try and push your way through, or try to evade detection by staying low.

You can see several plumes of thick black smoke coming from various parts surrounding the lake, including Don Martin.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8421085

Can we see any ground units, or get any info on the battle itself?

we need to be keeping our main goal in mind here, guys.


We HAVE to concentrate on their baggage train.
We should be sticking with doms, zipping across the countryside blowing up convoys and marking targets for hovis to shell from beyond visual range.

We can not stop, ever, for even a second. It's better to pass up a heavily guarded convoy and not get shot up than it is to inflict maximum enemy casaulties.

Our allies need to fight a delaying action, baiting and drawing them further north. The longer and weaker their logistics trains get, the more certain their defeat is.


I'm just saying, we're all talking about bait'n'switch, secret attacks, using the OH to beamspam, blah blah blah


We need to realize that hovis and the Doms are what we have to use. That mobility is key. That enemy solider units (tanks/mech infantry/ms's) should be avoided COMPLETELY and that we need to blow up every damn convoy truck we can find.

Think of german wolfpacks in ww2. It's all about the amount of raw tonnage we destroy, not a high kill-count.

Use the OH's beam cannons to take out the largest enemy aircraft.

>>8421056
I'm pretty sure that would make me liable for any future military losses your country incurs.

>>8421085
Stay low. With our luck they'll spot us anyway and we'll fight them, so it doesn't really matter. But on the off-chance that it works it would be nice to get to the main command center and get some info and find out where best to deploy.

>>8421133
this

>>8421075

Yes, more intel would have been great. Greater still if we could have had it before actually comencing any repairs. But all that takes time. Which we did and do not have. We need to hit the Feds now. And for that a functional Rhino (which, as you said, can double as a line unit) is an asset just as valuable as a functional Dom.

Whatever unit we did not repair would have had to stay out of the fight. Both were heavily damaged after all (there was more to the Rhino than just a missing flak turret).

But i concur in so far, as that my first impulse also would have been to repair the Dom. By now I am quite happy though that we went for the Rhino. I think it opens more possibilities to us.

And also what >>8420986 said. Sieg Zeon, Kamerad!

I guess the Federation really is blowing their load here instead of at Odessa, holy fuck is that a lot of enemies (that we've already destroyed, harrdiharr).

>>8421108
>Can we see any ground units, or get any info on the battle itself?

Not at this time, you also can't raise any of the units in Don Martin due to Minovsky Density (which is around 75% at the moment.)

>>8421111

It's more a case of numbers than size at the moment. There are no big juicy targets flying about.

Well, apart from you.

>>8421133
I'm not sure the Outer Heaven is very good at stealth, being a battleship and all. But let's take the chance. Pump out as much Minovsky chaf as we can and fly Nape of the Earth. Have the Dopp escorts join the big dogfight, the enemy should concentrate on the sudden reinforcements instead of the suspicious pack of signals.

Do get in touch with local command and get all the intel you can. We gotta know in which direction to withdraw, where some of our potential targets are and into which direction our opponent's forces are moving, plus we gotta check if we can coordinate ourselfs with the locals. There's really no point to fight this battle on our own - we're damaged and we'll be probably called up to cover the rear afterwards. Plus more targets means less shooting at everyone.

And some intel on the lay of the land would be nice too. We do need to know where we can set ourselfs up right now and where the feds could drop theirs as we're retreating. For a starter: Where do alll the planes come from? Into which direction do they withdraw?

>>8420986

Don´t get me the wrong way, I admit it was the wrong decision, Im just saying why i supported the suggestion to begin with (Combined Arms, Misunderstood that "Heavily Damaged" meant unusable,Etc,Etc). And see it this way, It will be more interesting fighting with a Handicap by not getting to sortie for once.

>>8421085
Do >>8421133.

>>8421085

Drop the ground team now, while there is a chance of them not being detected until in favourable position.

Maybe have them act as flak against the Fed airforces?

>>8421250
Agreed, Let's sneak to the extent that a Battleship can sneak, information is more important than combat at this point

>>8421279
Oh. Okay. And sorry if I seemed up in arms about this. I get riled up easily, and I apologize for it.

I think our main goal here should be to cover the retreat of the local Zeonic forces, right?

In that case I would propose we either draw them of and/or target the units which would be most dangerous on pursuit (i.e. air assets?).

>>8421293
>Drop the ground team now, while there is a chance of them not being detected until in favourable position.

What should the Zanzibar do whilst you perform the combat drop?

>>8421449
Veto that. We'll drop them when we originally planned on dropping.

Which was... when, exactly?

>>8421449

Stay out of sight until the ground team is in position, then assist in the attack before picking the team up again and speeding of.

>>8421449
What? Don't drop! There's one person who wants to drop and 3-4 who want us to sneak to where ever the person in charge of our forces are here! Don't drop!

>Which was... when, exactly?

That would have been before the Feds reach Don Martin. Which they obviously have already reached. So the previous plan is pretty much void.

>>8421512

Should we get Calvin out on a Dodai, to supplement the information we might get from local command (once we locate them...)?

>>8421693
Probably, but if we're trying to be sneaky then we shouldn't do it now since him on a dodai is another blip on the enemy radar that they might investigate. Once we've made contact with the main ground forces then yeah, having him on scout duty would be good.

>>8421717
>>8421693

So whats the plan guys? Still head for Don Martin?

>>8421781
Yes.

>>8421781
Yes.

>>8421803
>>8421819

Flying low, or going in full speed?

>>8421869
low

increase to full if the enemy starts to intercept

And I am BACK!

>>8421279
Water under the bridge funnel. We're back to bro status.

>>8421781
Let's head to San Martin, stay as low as we can with the Dopps still escorting us. Have the OH's gunner's put Beam Cannon's through any forming Fed Wolfpacks. Get Calvin ready to launch. His recon is going to be arguably the most important thing here.

Big thing to watch out for at Nuevo Laredo itself: the Feddies are probably going to skirt the city to the northwest and try to cross the Rio Grande at the World Trade International Bridge northeast of Ejido de la Cruz. It's the only crossing in the entire area that the Feddies could get to without having to fight their way through the actual city of Nuevo Laredo, and it could let them either outflank or bypass our entire position.

We do NOT want to let that happen.

Also, when we touch down at Don Martin, use landlines to get in touch with the defense line. Give them a report on Chihuahua, then advise them on that potential weakpoint at Nuevo Laredo.

As for what we do here: we don't want to spend too much time bogged down here when the main Feddie thrust towards Laredo and Reynosa is coming in well to our south. Use the landlines to advise the forces at Acuna to make for Sabinas and then head southwest from there towards our current position; that should let them take this Feddie force from the rear.

>>8421210
From reading the timeline, these forces weren't used in Odessa; they were probably the ones that took California Base from the south as the Zeon positions collapsed post-Odessa. Here they're trying it months too early, without major support out of Alaska and British Columbia, and without Zeon High Command in a shambles from Garma's death and the catastrophe at Odessa.

>>8421911
Kemal! So good to see you. Sound tactical advice as always.

Why don't we pop the bridge? I know it seems a little extreme, but it contains the Feddies and, as long as we have sufficient Gaw and Dopp support, allows the defenders to deploy MS into the city proper in order to generally fuck with the Feds.

Your thoughts?

Have the Outer Heaven warn our planes to temporarily bug out, then hose the Feddies down with the Mega Particle Cannons. Keep using the Mega Particle Cannons on any Feddie aircraft trying to fly as a group.

>>8421903
Why let Calvin out? I doubt his sensors are any more powerful than the Outer Heaven's.

>>8421978
I said get him ready. He's the first one we want out when we reach Don Martin proper.

>>8421952
That's actually a good idea, with one caveat: wait until the Feddies have deployed towards it in strength. If we know we can drop it at any time we want, then drop it once Feddie forces are crossing, or drop it once a manageable chunk of the Feddie forces have crossed.

Drop it too soon, and they just take their whole force into Nuevo Laredo. Wait, and we can force them to waste precious time moving to and from the bridge, and possibly even catch some of their forces on our side and then smash them against the river once the bridge goes down.

The bridges in the city itself don't get blown unless things have gone horribly wrong, though.

First to ascertain whether local command is attempting to hold or is trying to withdraw.

>>8422005
Word. Good modification of my idea. Sounds good to me.

>>8421937
It's possible they're still freaking out at our strike at Jaburo, and are greatly overestimating Zeon's strategic position in America. Right now they're probably going for broke.

>>8422013
I like your idea and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Also, longer-term, we should start working more on our occupation and peacekeeping essay when we have the chance.

>>8422041
Fuck that post went right over my head. Thirded. Also, that Newsletter sounds dope.

>>8422019
Also, they can't afford to leave us in striking distance of Jaburo, given that we managed to find and damage it in spite of all of the defenses and the mobile block system. And they need some sort of morale boost to set against the damage to Jaburo.

This is one slow as fuck session of ZQ.

>>8422005
Kemal's good at this, I like. Consensus granted.

>>8421019
Actually, we should have a good idea of what this force contains, given that the Acuna defenders attacked it one or two days ago.

Apologized, what did the Acuna forces report back on the size and composition of this Feddie thrust?

>>8422083
Kemal is the most consistently sound tactician that posts in ZQ. I don't think I've substantively disagreed with plans of his, well, ever.

I've modified them before though.

But yeah, Kemal is dope.

Anyway, yeah, so in summary.

Move the OH in low, attempt to establish lasercomms with local command. Ascertain their intentions. During this have the OH Beam Cannon any forming Feddie wolfpacks after warning away our own Dopps. Keep an eye on the Bridge. If the Feds begin deploying towards it, wait for enough to embark/cross, then pop said bridge. If the local commander is resisting deploy into Don Martin and wreak havoc. If not cover their retreat to the next base. Sound good?

>>8421903
>Let's head to San Martin, stay as low as we can with the Dopps still escorting us. Have the OH's gunner's put Beam Cannon's through any forming Fed Wolfpacks. Get Calvin ready to launch. His recon is going to be arguably the most important thing here.

You head towards the town with the Dopps escorting you, about halfway there you encounter a group of Saberfish, your beam cannons dispatch a couple, but the rest successfully manage to draw the escorts off, you barge on ahead, and luckily you don't draw the attention of any other fighters.

You draw over the town to find it ablaze. Large bonfires spew filthy black smoke into the air. It is a scene of devestation. Finally however you are able to raise someone over the radio.

"...This is Corporal Janson of the 452nd Company, my Squads been destroyed and I've lost contact with the Gallop! Can anyone assist!"

"Were able to get a fix on the signals location! It appears coming from the central crossroads of the town!" Anita informs you.

You cannot see any nearby enemies, but that doesn't mean they aren't around.

YOUR ORDERS?

Argh. Sorry about the double-posts, but I keep thinking of stuff just after I put up a post and have to drop it in.

We need to emphasize to Zeonic Command and R&D that we NEED a decent aircraft and anti-air arm. In pretty much every battle we've been in thus far, Feddie airpower does most of the damage to us and limits our options. That's only going to get worse once they roll out their own mass-produced MS in force.

And if we haven't gotten at least one or two Feddie aircraft to study and duplicate, then someone needs to be shot.

>>8422139

Well, there is a canon (if silly looking) Zeon AA MS, in the novels I think. We just need to see if it's being worked on in this timeline.

>>8422122
Sorry, need to clarify one thing: we're a considerable distance west of Nuevo Laredo right now, and the bridge is back at Nuevo Laredo itself. This isn't the Feddie force heading straight for N-L, this is the one that was heading for Acuna until the Acuna defense force attacked it and forced it to turn east. It apparently is no longer heading for Acuna or Piedras Negras and is now attempting to join up with the main Feddie thrust coming out of Monterrey.

Hope that clarifies things a bit.

>>8422139
Agreed. The Saberfish is still the best production-model aerofighter designed right now, and will remain so until the Feds start introducing their Core Booster models. Our Dopps are adequate, but they can only match dinkier models like the TIN Cod or Fly Manta. And we rely on our Gaws more for ground attack support.

On the AA side, we still have the Zaku Cannon, which was designed around AA. Maybe the refit seen in 08th was optimized for it somehow.

>>8422137
Get Calvin over there on a Dodai to spot for Hovis so we can hold down the Feds attacking our boys. Maybe we can save the gallop if it isn't destroyed and ask them for a sit rep.

What's this?
I managed to catch a Zeonquest thread as it's still on?

...Did the last thread get saved?

>>8422137
Signal back that we're coming to reinforce and ask for more info on what's going on. Deploy Calvin and have him take a look around in case the enemy is hiding. Don't land until we get word back from him.

>>8422168

Thanks, because I was under the impression that this was the entirety of the easter Federal forces "prong" that was aiming for the weak spot in our Rio-Grande Line before it got redirected towards Nuevo Laredo.

>>8422137
Get him out of here.

Send a warning to the town of Anahuac, to our southeast.

Blow the dam just south of Don Martin.

>>8422139
Seconded.

>>8422231
Also seconded. Get Calvin in the air and get him doing his thing. Deploy our operational Doms for a quick assist and escort. Have the Rhino put Arty on anything Calvin specifies as needing Arty applied to it.

>>8422211
Wait what? How would you get confused about that OP? You're the one who's putting them there in the first place!

>>8422211
Nope. This force was probably the same size as the force we hit in Chihuahua, or maybe a bit less; figure two battalions.

It all comes back to the roads; there just aren't very many in this part of Mexico, especially not ones that are large and well-maintained (and therefore that an army can move across quickly without losing a considerable amount of strength due to road conditions). The main road here leads almost directly from Monterrey to Nuevo Laredo, plus another one that goes Monterrey-Reynosa-Heroica Matamoros. That's where the primary Feddie strength will be.

>>8422204
>Signal back that we're coming to reinforce and ask for more info on what's going on. Deploy Calvin and have him take a look around in case the enemy is hiding. Don't land until we get word back from him.

You have Calvin launch for a quick and careful reconnoitter (sp?)

Meanwhile you try to get back into contact with Corporal Janson for further situation information.

"... I dunno man, they came out of nowhere, they're armed with heavy flamethrowers man, using the smoke to obscure them, whatever they are, there packing all kinds of heat. It must be some kind of combined arms unit, we've had missiles, high-explosive shells, 100m shells fired like machine guns. I think they managed to get Sargeant Crane with some kind of net-gun... I don't know! I think they took the Gallop out with their flamethrowers, sprayed the fuel and ammo pod on the back! I think that's what that big explosion was 20 minutes ago..."

Calvin reports back, there IS a dirty great big crater that might have once been a Gallop, but with all this smoke it's impossible to see if there are enemies still in the town.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8422258
Well, unless I'm wrong. Apologized is the OP, not me, so that's definitely possible.

If this IS the main Feddie thrust, then we have the forces in Laredo deploy at least something forward. The Feddies are going to be hemorrhaging vehicles from wear-and-tear on the crappy roads here, or they're going to be going real slow to avoid a constant stream of breakdowns blocking the road until repairs are done.

>>8422291
Looks like we're up against enemy Mobile Suits. Get down and ready him for extraction. Has it been an hour yet? ETA to Dom repaired please.

>>8422291
Try to help our comrades and link up with any other surviving forces. Beginning to look like this place might already be lost.

>>8422291
Tell him to evac to the south along with any other survivors. We'll pick them up there before we blow the dam.

This town is lost, and we don't have the forces to do much more than get smashed. Evac our survivors, blow the dam, and fire some parting shots at the Feddies as we pull back towards Nuevo Laredo.

>>8422291
Enemy Mobile Suits.

And us without a Dom.

And Zolomon with a damaged Gouf.

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT.

Anyway, have him move to a safe extraction point. Get Hovis and the Rhino up on his little perch, and have Calvin start relaying targeting telemetry. Get Elaine and Jolyne ready to launch, and have Zol stand by in case he's needed.

Pace nervously at being useless.

>>8422291
Scan the area's Minovsky density. If it is enemy GMs, then that many probably would have shot it up pretty badly. At this point it's probably the only way to be sure without having him descend to ground level, which we don't want.

>>8422291
>>8422307

Sweet Jesus, the Feds may have Assault Guntanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXGf8HaiCFA&feature=related

If they have those, we have a fight on our hands.

>>8422325
Don't worry, the Gouf is fine. It got repaired along with one Dom and the Rhino.

>>8422291
>>8422298
Apologized, just want to clarify: is this the main Feddie thrust, or does it seem too small for that?

We obviously won't know exactly what we have, but since we got info from the company in Acuna before we left for Chihuahua, we should at least have gotten an estimate of how big this particular Feddie force was along with that company's report.

>>8422325
David Lister? Nervous? Not a chance, After all we do believe in our team, Right? If anything we should look if there is any Gunnery positions left over and go and help with the shootan.

>>8422336
Oh hey, I remember those things! We found a prototype for one a while back.

>>8422339
Oh. SWEET.

Alright, then get all three on the ready line. Add Zol to the ready-for-launch group in my last post.
>>8422325

>>8422336
And yeah, he may be right. That episode of IgLoo is bullshit, as those Guntanks go through MS like fucking wet cardboard, but even adjusted to reality, they'll be tough to deal with.

>>8422359
>>8422363

We found the FIRST prototype, And i think that Apologized said that the project was scrapped after we did.

>>8422336
I'm sorry, seeing that, I can't take these enemy MS seriously. One hit to their shield and the entire arm blows off?

>>8422357
If they need us to, that's fine. If not, we stay here. Responsibility of command and all that.

>>8422373
Indeed he did. Of course, we'll still probably have regular Guntanks to worry about, not to mention enemy MS, but it's a small comfort.

>>8422373

To be fair, the Feds may have had enough parts lying around to put some into the field. In any case, we must be careful. Even when you remove the MS Igloo AwesomeForAnEpisodeShield, they're still dangerous.

>>8422409
Speaking of MS Igloo, which episode has the Rhino in it?

>>8422456
None. The Rhino is from the Dreamcast game Rise from the Ashes.

>>8422456
Rhino is from a game, not IgLoo. It's the game with the White Dingos...uh...

Side Story 0079: Rise from the Ashes.

There we go.

>>8422403
Word. Seconded.

>>8422456

The Rhino doesn't appear, but the Hildolfr appears in the second episode of the first series.

>>8422462
>>8422473
>>8422474
Oh. My bad. I can't brain today.

>>8422506

Are you a writefag?

>>8422307
>Has it been an hour yet? ETA to Dom repaired please.

An Hour AFTER you arrive. You've just arrived, so work on it has only just begin. A quick check of the hangar cameras reveal that they've just started refitting your lost shoulder-pauldon.

>>8422325
>And Zolomon with a damaged Gouf.

What? No, the Gouf is fine, it's just missing the Gatling on it's Shield, the shield itself is still there though.

>>8422315
>Tell him to evac to the south along with any other survivors. We'll pick them up there before we blow the dam.

Wait what? That town has a dam?
[checks google maps]
Huh, I guess that is a dam. Good eyes.

Okay, you order Janson to retreat to the south for Evac.

"Am I glad to hear that sir! It's been hell down here!"

"Don't worry Corporal we'll get you out of there!"

"It's Ramirez sir, and thanks."

Calvin is finally able to get an update on the situation.

"I've spotted him, he's making his way south now. It looks clear, I don't see any... wait, I got movement to his left and right. I can't get a clear identifaction, they're covered by tarps!"

"Ramirez! You've got enemy movement trying to flank you! Get to cover!"

Through Calvins relayed recon data you see Ramirez run towards the ruined church. Behind him you see the moving targets raise an arm and begin spraying the area with bullets. Ramirez clambers over the top and behind the cover of the other side of the Church.

"He's behind cover, I can't see any other enemies, but there's a lot of smoke!"

YOUR ORDERS?

>Still watching Op. Igloo

THAT IS NOT HOW FLAMETHROWERS WORK!

While we're waiting, something to discuss: what exactly our new rank is going to mean to us.

After looking some stuff up, it appears that our rank is equivalent to that of a Captain in a modern-day army (not a naval Captain, which is a considerably higher rank). Captains would normally be commanding a company, and from the impression I got are the highest-ranked officer that are actually expected to conduct combat operations with their troops; from Major on up, you're normally doing what we're doing right now, and if you have to personally shoot people it means something is going badly wrong.

>>8422576
We are the bringer of light. Saturate the enemy area with fire from the Outer Heaven.

>>8422543
...maybe. Why do you ask?

>>8422576
Just to clarify is Janson in a Zaku or is he infantry?

And have Hovis start putting as much Arty as he can on those targets. Same with the OH. Tell Zol, Jol and Elaine that they may have to be groundside instantaneously.

>>8422589
>THAT IS NOT HOW FLAMETHROWERS WORK!

What if they're REALLY REALLY big though?

>>8422615

I have a request and I heard there are a group of writefags who use an academic title and a common name and do requests

>>8422627
To clarify, I mean this only if Hovis is already in his little perch thing. If he isn't get him up there while the OH opens fire. When he is up there, have him light shit up.

>>8422576
>they're covered by tarps

have the OH saturate any tarps, tarp-related materials, or materials suspected of tarpy behavior with loads of particle beam spam

>>8422594

Well, We are aiming to be a 4-star general Badass.

That means, gain promotions by proving ourselves on the frontline time and time again.

And by deploying from time to time we can make sure we still keep ourselves in touch just how it is to pilot a MS and not make impossible demands of our pilots.

>>8422576
You know... Installing Gigantic Fans on our MS might not be such a weird idea as it sounds, I mean, Just how many times have we had our view blocked by smoke? Anyway, Leaving what to do to the experts.... That means other posters.

>>8422576
Air drop Zolomon and Elaine's team. They can hook up with Ramirez and assist him and any other survivors get to the extraction point.

>tarps
>behind that door in Jaburo, under a camo tarp...
> FFFFFFFFFF.jpg

ITS A GUN-*BLAM*

>>8422576
If the OH is in range, evaporate the cloaks and whatever's underneath them with the particle cannons.

As for the dam, the real prize is that the river that will flood when we blow it. Anahuac appears to be the only town anywhere along the river that's close enough to the dam to be potentially threatened by the flood, so civilian casualties should be minimal to non-existent, and that river cuts both of the direct routes to Nuevo Laredo. The only road to N-L from within Mexico that wouldn't be washed out runs north-south parallel to the Rio Grande, and starts sufficiently far south and east that the Feddies are more likely to just say "screw it" and keep heading east towards Reynosa.

>Captains would normally be commanding a company, and from the impression I got are the highest-ranked officer that are actually expected to conduct combat operations with their troops; from Major on up, you're normally doing what we're doing right now, and if you have to personally shoot people it means something is going badly wrong.

Normally yes. But you've been put in as the MS team leader for an elite independant corps. Your one of those special cases. Also, I think most of the Zeon military is based on Navy ranking systems anyway.

>Just to clarify is Janson in a Zaku or is he infantry

Zaku, J type you think.

>>8422642
Still doesn't work like that! Flame is not water, it doesn't project out of the barrel like water from a hose.

>>8422650
Oh. Well, I don't know about them, but if you want to make a request my email's in the email field.

>>8422724

Do you have MSN or AIM?

>>8422744
Look, can we continue this by email so as not to clutter the thread? Polite sage for off topic.

>>8422704
Kemal I say this every thread, but you're such a minx, with your ideas like that.

Word.

>>8422705
Well at the very least our new rank means that the other officers won't feel quite as awkward about listening to us.

Aside from the extra pay. I propose we spend at least part of it on a good karaoke setup for the OH's lounge/rec area.

And can we get a quick look at what the Acuna defense company reported back on the size and composition of this Feddie force when they attacked it?

>>8422809
second the karaoke setup.. Also when we get a chance we still need to pick up fake mustaches for the squad

>>8422724
>it doesn't project out of the barrel like water from a hose.
Pretend it's some off-shoot of napalm.

The other crossing point of note that we might want to make sure is covered is the one between Ciudad Miguel Aleman and Roma. It could also potentially get the Feddies over the Rio Grande in a position to outflank several of our positions, or even just temporarily ignore them and drive northeast into Texas.

>>8422576

D-did you just say Ramirez?

>>8422724
>Still doesn't work like that! Flame is not water, it doesn't project out of the barrel like water from a hose.

Well, maybe it some kind of new form of napalm that works that way?

>If the OH is in range, evaporate the cloaks and whatever's underneath them with the particle cannons.

You tell Ramirez to hang tough as your coming in with the Outer Heaven deal with the area.

Even with Calvins help, the smoke and everything makes targeting difficult, the Outer Heaven get's in close and sprays the are with beam cannons. You see explosions bloom.
At which point the ship violently rocks from a heavy impact.

"Another enemy unit underneath in ambush positions! I haven't got a precise location!"

"We still badly damaged! We can't take more of those hits!"

YOUR ORDERS?

>>8422848

Yes.

Yes I did.

>>8422576

RAMIREZ DEFEAT THE ENEMY WHILE ESCAPING, GET LOST IN THE CONFUSION AND END UP IN THE ARMS OF A LOVELY GIRL!

USE SMOKE TO COVER YOUR ADVANCE!

>>8422851
Deploy smoke and drop MS from the Outer Heaven to support Ramirez. It's probably another ambush but that's better than losing the OH. Get the OH to a extraction point.

>>8422851
Quick, Ramirez! Act as our forwards spotter and find where that shell came from!

But seriously, ask him if he saw where the shot came from. Increase altitude and get out of range of their guns, then continue to saturate the area, making sure to avoid hitting Ramirez.

>>8422851

OH pulls back temorarily, Possible positioning itself so it looks like it is going to fire at the Dam, That should give the Feddies a small scare, But don´t have OH fire, Instead, Have it positioned near the Dam so if if the OH gets shot down then the Dam breaks and the Feddies all die too, That should ease up on the fire we are receiving.

This is risky though, So i would prefer an alternative.

>>8422851
Drop Elaine, Zol, & Jol. Have them engage the ambushing unit & escort the Ramirez to the evac point where we'll pick them all up.

Drop Elaine, Jol, and Zol. Have Hovis start shelling. If Hovis isn't moving up, drop him too. Deploy, and perform a fighting retreat. Use the OH's Cannons at Standoff distances based on Calvin's telemetry. Don't get close.

>>8422724
They... they kind of do.

>>8422917
If the Feds think we are going to blow the damn anyways they might just go ahead and shoot down the OH. Best to hide it and draw the Feds further in pursuit of us. Once we got our boys aboard the Outer Heaven and the Feds think the town is theirs we blow the dam.

>>8422848

Ramirez was a character in Fallout 2. He ran security for the Mordino's Jet testing facility in some stables. The Chosen One got a quest to deliver some poisoned Jet to him from Jesus Mordino Sr.

>>8422942
Oh right.... And that reminds me, What about the civilians, This does not bode good for how well David will sleep during the nights, Oh well, That is war i guess.

>>8422935
But that's not purely flame, you might as well call it a fuel thrower, since that's what it does. But I'll admit, at this point I'm just grasping at straws.

>>8422851
Pull back out of the town to some clear location (shouldn't be hard, since from the looks of the maps this place is tiny). Use the cannons to slag everything that isn't Ramirez. Extract him, blow the dam, retreat.

Actually, scratch that. Have him abandon his Zaku, set it to self-destruct, we just pull him out. I don't think we've got room for that Zaku on the OH anyway, and getting a person on board will be a lot easier than getting an MS on board.

And the detonating MS reactor should at least damage the dam a bit, which will make it easier to smash it completely.

>Deploy smoke and drop MS from the Outer Heaven to support Ramirez. It's probably another ambush but that's better than losing the OH. Get the OH to a extraction point.

You order an immiediate emergency combat drop and then have the Outer Heaven get the hell out of dodge.
Zolomon and Elaine go in first, followed by the rest as Calvin stays in as recon.

"I've got movement, it's definately our mystery shooter, same tarps as before, also supported by a Command Tank, don't bother with stealth, the sonar on that will pick you up a mile away!"

YOU WILL BE OUT OF RADAR RANGE SHORTLY
YOUR ODERS TO YOUR SQUAD?

>>8422975
The dam and the riverbed are south of the town. The town itself is tiny and has been completely smashed, so chances are that the civilians here are dead. And Anahuac (the place we're heading to next, to warn) is the only settlement of any kind along that riverbed between here and where this river empties into the Rio Grande. Civilian casualties (caused by the dam, anyway) should be minimal to non-existent.

>>8423007
Kill the command tank first, then the sumbitch in the cloak.

If cloaked dude turns out to be the One-Armed Bandit, we sortie to assist. If not, just surround him and slag him.

>>8423007

Assist any and all allied forces in retreat, blow the dam, stay safe.

>>8423007
Their main objective is to NOT GET BOGGED DOWN.

Support any survivors, strafe enemy positions, hit targets of opportunity, but don't get caught and keep fucking moving.

>>8423007
Again, get Hovis shelling. Have Jolyne start shelling. Order Elaine and Zol to work in tandem, and perform a hit and fade while Ramirez ditches his Zaku. Have him set it to move toward the enemy then self destruct. As he does this, Zol and Elaine fall back. Jolyne picks up Janson and, still shelling, falls back. Fighting retreat to the extraction point.

>>8423007

No stealth allowed?

Well, Subtlety is hardly the strong side of Zolomon, So why not send him there together with the Rhino for some Tank-VS-Tank Goodness?

Elaine,Jolyne and Hobbes can continue to help the survivors. Hobbes radar would be helpful for them while searching for friendlies.

>>8423007
"Take out that command tank first, to keep them from coordinating and let you be sneaky."

>>8423044
Actually, there's a thought.

Order them to make a fighting retreat southward towards the riverbed. Once they're on the south side of the river, we blow the dam. Hopefully some Feddies in the riverbed get washed away; even if they don't, they've got a flood surge between them and us.

>>8423081
We could be dealing with a Guntank Kemal, so shelling is a distinct possibility. If this is closer than the extraction point, however, I saw we go for it.

>>8423062
Jolyne and Hovis should target the command tank first. Calvin had a solid ping on it, so the telemetry should work well.

>>8423007
Ignore my previous post, do >>8423081 instead; add in >>8423062's suggestion, because it's a good one.

I'm not seeing anything that looks like a dam.

>>8423110
Granted, but at least they'd have to shell from a greater distance.

And for that matter, once the dam blows we just pull back out of shelling range before we load everyone up.

We'll have to make Anahuac at top speed, though, because we want to try to get there ahead of the water. Or we just call back one of the Dopps and have it run south now, before we blow the dam, to issue the warning.

>>8423149
You're looking in the wrong place. The dam is directly south of Don Martin.

Also, we're in autosage.

>>8423149
That's because you're looking with your eyes instead of your heart!

You're right.

This is it correct?

>Just how many times have we had our view blocked by smoke?

Heath cameras would be a-fucking nice. Or sonar. Or ground support through those flying motorcycles. Does Sonar go through smoke anyway?

>>8423216
Yes.

We only want to smash the bit in front of the larger southern channel. The northern channel leads away from where we need it to go.

>>8423059
>Their main objective is to NOT GET BOGGED DOWN.

>Support any survivors, strafe enemy positions, hit targets of opportunity, but don't get caught and keep fucking moving.

"Support Ramirez, get him out of town. But first take that command tank and mobile suit out! Were moving off-board, we'll use Calvin to triagulate your extraction point! Remember, keep talking with Calvin and stick to the combined arms doctrines we practiced! If I have to, I'll mount up in the Dom and support you, stay safe, and keep yourselves alive."

"Don't get killed out there."

"You too sir!" Jolyne wishes you back.

You pass beyond radio range, aside from some sporadic updates from Calvin, they're on their own now...

TO BE CONTINUED.

>>8423312
Well, alrighty then.

I assume any dambusting will be later?

And I hate to be a nag, but I'm still wondering about whether this is actually the main Feddie force or if it seems to be too small for that.

>>8423340
Forgot to add: good session Apologized, we'll see you tomorrow!

>>8423312

....Omake?

I´d like something how Bandit got in the Gundam and if he still got it or not. And how the Side-7 Incident happened, I mean, It did happen by now? Right?

On a side note, at some point, there needs to be a Custom Zaku build to look like Golbez.I mean, in Dissidia, he even has a fucking monoeye...

Good session, Apoligised.

See you tomorrow, chaps.

>>8423312
>Next Episode...
>Elaine's War
I wonder if that means a perspective change for the next episode or just an after action report? That is if we're not called in to help.

Oh yeah, one more thing to do tomorrow (or Sunday, whenever we've got Dave back), if this is indeed the entire right prong of the Feddie advance: tell the forces stationed in Heroica Matamoros to move west and take up new positions in Monterrey. We could potentially trap and destroy the entire Feddie force that way.

>>8423340

Feddie force is split into three prongs.

The Western force is heading up the western coast of Mexico, where it's going to be harrassed to buggery by the Mad Angler Unit.
I should REALLY do an Omake on that at somepoint...

The primary middle spoke is heading upwards through Chihuahua, but that advance has been stalled after you guys went and KICKED THE MERRY SHIT OUT OF IT AND THEN BOOKED IT BEFORE THEY PROPERLY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
Blowing up that entire fuel refinery helped a lot though.

This eastern spoke was heading to that large unguarded expanse between San Antonio and Juarez before the Zeonic forces in San Antonio mounted a blitzkrieg which redirected them towards Nuevo Laredo.

Incidentially, those forces took heavier losses than they let on, and are currently licking their wounds in San Antonio.

This brings us up to the current situation. The enemy forces arrayed against us consist of surviving members of the Mexican Army (not much after the 2nd battle of Salina Cruz where you took out their Land Battleship) and the elite Federation 1st Mobile Division, stationed in southern Panama.
A division consist of 5 Battalions, each consisting of 3 companies. Plus Air support and Battleship support.

>>8422211
...yeah, I think I interpreted that one the wrong way.

If so, sorry about that Apologized. For some reason I just can't seem to get my head off of "this isn't the main thrust, it's kind of like the arrows being a bit off on the first version" thing, and looking at them now the tone of my posts does seem to imply that I'm trying to tell you how to run the quest. That was not my intent, and I apologize for it.

...although admittedly, my apologizing on 4chan might not help me make my case that I don't think I'm Apologized.

>>8423649

Well, *I* don't think your me.

>>8423576
Okay then. Definitely want to move the troops out of Matamoros, leaving just enough there to warn us if the Feddies try any shenanigans. Put them into Ciudad Miguel Aleman. Unless what just got destroyed here was the force in Nuevo Laredo, that force digs in in the city itself. We have the force at Juarez redeploy to Piedras Negras and send the force recuperating in San Antonio to Juarez.

>>8423664
Glad to hear it, because if you thought that you were me and I thought that I was you this whole thing would get really weird really fast.

Sooo...

When we're done with this particular Federation offensive I think we need to begin training a large force of pilots for the next attack on Jaburo.

I was thinking we'd start with 150 recruits and whittle those down to enough for a MS division. Obviously we dont have enough spare MS atm but that'll hardly be a problem in the long run. We're going to need a lot of pilots and that's the smallest number I figure we could afford to go with. Location wise is Las Vegas is still mostly intact we set up our people in the hotels and use Nellis Bombing range as an MS practice zone.

Vehicles for use in training outside of simulators should be Zaku I's with Goufs used as agressor vehicles.

Since we'll be busy actually fighting the war I was thinking diffrient frontline units (including us) could be rotated into the training area every so often to help train up our people.

Thoughts?

>>8423757
I think we need either a decent long-range fighter or an incredibly deadly and portable AA weapon before we can try again. If we can't get past the Feddie airpower first, then we can't get to Jaburo as more than the shreds of what used to be a division.

Revising immediate strategy notes, we would need a blocking force in Anahuac as well, to make sure the division doesn't take the route they're on back out. The Juarez force continues from Piedras Negras onward to there, probably by Gaw so that they can actually reach Anahuac without the Feddies noticing that we're putting a major force across their line of retreat.

>>8423841

There is a Zeon anti-air MS in canon somewhere. I was looking around MAHQ earlier, but I failed to find it. Not sure if it's being developed in this canon, but who knows, it's a place to start.

>>8423841
Oh shit! That reminds me, I was trying to design 2 new Zeon fighters capable of mounting a modified Beam Bazooka. 1 is a Gattle space fighter replacement and is fully conceptualized. The other is supposed to be for supporting Dopps.

>>8423859
If it isn't, we use all of our charm and connections to get it prioritized. We've had too many cases of DAVE CANCELS ASSKICKING, INTERRUPTED BY FEDDIE AIRPOWER already.

>>8423916

I wish I could offer more info on it, but all I remember is that it looks like a mobile suit with a ball instead of legs and a gun for a head.

OMAKE

The cell is dark, a single lighbulb flickers, only capable of throwing a poor dim light into the room.
The whole base has been having brownout since the attack.

He tosses the ball against the wall, catching it on it's return bounce. He manages this another twoo times before the door opens on it's squealing hinges.

"Okay Wyatt that's enough time in hack." The figure states, obscured by the doorframe light.

"Whatever you say Major."

"Damn it, Wyatt, don't get flippant, you had no clearance to take the G-Sky Prototype out like you did! Then you got it destroyed as well!"

"It's not like I did it all by myself you know. Nachtmaren aren't your average group of pilots you know. I still managed to take out a Gaw on my first pass."

"Well it's because of you that we had to deploy McNamara and the rest of 4th Ms Squad, instead of your unit."

The one armed figure leans back in his cell bed.

"Really, you deployed that psychopath?"

"He'll get the job done! Even if it means a bit of scorched earth policy here and there!"

Wyatt Bandit leans in close, until he's face to face with the major.

"You realise you're not speaking in metaphor's here right? McNamara will literally burn everything to the ground, just to watch children cook and women melt like candles. These are actual words he has said to me. On several occaisions"

SEVERAL MINUTES LATER

Wyatt fitted the Jacket back over his one-armed frame. Beside him, the Major informs him of current events.

"We finally got the power regulation solution back from Side 7. We've already tested the rifle and beam saber, they're go for combat operations."

"Well there's that at least. So what's next?"

"Pack your things Wyatt, you and the Gundam are heading to the front."

>>8424081
Well, on the one hand, we've got a Feddie MS squad that we can kill, and potentially even get a suit (or at least parts of a suit) off of for Zeonic use.

On the other hand, our nemesis is going into action shortly, and with our luck he'll be reaching North America just in time to join up with White Base.

>>8424081
Wow, I sure am glad we're not heading for the front!

>>8424081
Awesome.

>Nachtmaren aren't your average group of pilots you know.

Well, It seems he noticed that we are all utterly and completely dysfunctional. And i can´t wait to kill that McNamara, Sounds like a douche.

>>8424172
As long as we are resupplied and have all our stuff repaired by the time we fight him, Sure. The bad part is that he will have beam weapons this time around, And we thought the last encounter was bad.

Anyway, Next time we meet him we need to take a cue from Louise Halevy.

>>8424191

Uh, you ARE on the front line.

One of them anyway.

>>8424191
In a matter of days, DAYS, we're boing to have 2 Gundams in a rather small stretch of territory. Not to mention Whitebase, the rest of the V project, the 4th MS squad and, oh yeah the ENTIRE FEDERATION 1ST DIVISION!

WE'RE FUCKING SCREWED!

>>8424191
Yeah. But looking at the timeline, Wyatt Bandit probably won't be reaching Mexico until after we've sent the Feddie invasion reeling back as a shattered ruin. So aside from stopping our pursuit of at least one of the Feddie wings, the first chance he'd have to do something major would be supporting White Base when it comes down in North America a week or so from now.

And that means that White Base has TWO Gundams. One piloted by an awakened Newtype who is also an ace from skill alone, and the other piloted by Amuro.

I don't think a word exists to describe how fucked that will make us.

>>8424275
Well how fucked up Char will be. We should run away at full speed.

>>8424306
And use all those sickdays we have piled up... What do you mean that the Military don't get sickdays?

>>8424263
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

>>8424306
>>8424318
I don't think we get a choice. Our personal nemesis would be aboard, remember? And with two Gundams, White Base can do enough damage on its own that we can't afford to just ignore it and do other things.

At best, it and Nachtmaren cancel each other out and Zeon doesn't waste any other resources trying to stop it. At worst, we die in fire.

We might get Char to tag along with us, though, which would be nice. Well, as long as we can keep him from backstabbing us to get to Garma, or can convince him to let Garma live.

>>8424266
Hopefully we'll at least have removed the 1st Division from play before then. And maybe the 4th MS Team, if they're the ones with the flamethrowers and stuff that barbecued the town of Don Martin.

It should be noted that the federation never supported White base, at least not militarily, while in North America.

So unless canon has changed so that this is no longer the case, no duel gundams for some time.

aaaaaand I missed it.
Typical.
Oh well, there's always the next thread!

>>8424377
We aren't going to be able to talk Char outta revenge for his father given the level of hate and dickery he is capable of.

As bad as White Base is (even with 2 gundams) it still can't be everywhere. Maintain the big picture of this war, we have to destroy the Federation industry and command. The gundams will be of no use to the Feds when they can't replace broken/worn out parts and the White Base is outta salt.

While the Trojan Horse hits one mining base in Odessa, our forces defeat the Fed advance because we were there to destabilize it instead of chasing ol' one arm. While White Base is trying to cross the ocean we are already inside Jaburo wrecking havoc.

>>8424377

Idea!

1) MEET CHAR
2) NEWTYPE NAKED TIME WITH CHAR TO DISCOVER HIS TRUE MOTIVATIONS.
3) TELL CHAR THAT HIS SOUL IS DRAGGED DOWN BY THE GRAVITY OF REVENGE. (Mandatory Trollan.)
4) ??????
5) PROFIT

>>8424481
I'm pretty sure Char has a "no naked Newtype time" policy with anyone who isn't either a) someone he hates or b) a teenage girl.

And we're keeping him the hell away from Elaine.

>>8424377
Actually it might be better if the second Gundam got to White Base. I've been working on a long range engagement plan for dealing with the pesky Trojan Horse. Recon forces (like Calvin) along with some Dopps create a blockade screen around WB. No Feddie aircraft get to them unless we let them. A persuit formation of GAW's hang back at nearly maximum range of their beam weapons and use the recon craft to spot for them.

In addition, ahead of the WB's course we send out Fat Uncle transports with artillery teams. When the feddies get within their weapons range our recon people transmit data to them too. If White Base changes course to attack the artillery sites or launches the Gundam(s) to attack them they un-camo their forces and use the Fat uncle to GTFO.

>>8424469
He didn't feel the need to kill Mineva, though, so maybe he can be convinced to confine his Zabi-hate to Degwin and Gihren. Both of whom richly deserve it.

>>8424529
All of which could be of better use destroying the bulk of Fed forces.

Remember when White Base was almost destroyed because a bunch of guys on Wappas planted timed explosives on it. Imagine if they were remote detonation charges this time.

>>8424616
New plan: use the White Base to purge the Zeon military of its douchebags. Anybody whose methods have the Gihren Zabi Seal of Approval? Gets a Gundam to the face.

>>8424616
>was almost destroyed because a bunch of guys on Wappas planted timed explosives on it.

Actually I dont remember that part and that was the next thing I was going to suggest. Boarding action with mounted infantry. I remember Ramba Ral almost succeding when they boarded since there isnt much of a crew.

As for the resources tied up on the persuit, Zeon lost how many MS, tanks and vehicles in direct assaults on White Base just in North America? I'm suggesting using half of that to constantly harass and damage.

>>8424695
Like that one episode of Battlestar Galactica where the Cylons attacked every forty-something minutes and didn't let anyone get any rest?

>>8424711
Yes, exactally. After just 30 hours of that you start to have people making minor screw ups and it just gets worse for them after that. A few days of non stop attacks? I'm sure some of them may start considering surrender.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation#Effects_on_the_brain

"People who drove after being awake for 17–19 hours performed worse than those with a blood alcohol level of .05 percent"

>>8424695
It was episode 14.

Young Zeon pilots are eager to win the battle and plan to destroy the Gundam by setting time bombs directly onto it. When Amuro notices the bombs on the Gundam, he struggles to remove them on his own and lets the crew stay inside the White Base for safety. However, the crew come out to help Amuro and they succeed in isolating all the bombs. Impressed by what they saw, the young Zeon soldiers in disguise set out to meet Amuro in person.

If they had been remote charges Amuro would have been hamburger.

>>8424971
Alternatively, if they'd been set off by one of the Zeon soldiers shooting them, Amuro would have been hamburger.

It's okay though. Char's attempt to destroy the GM production line was foiled by a trio of little kids.

>>8424971

There was a second one, where commandos with jetpacks fly up onto white base unnoticed and planted bombs directly on it. Think it was episode 21 or something around there.