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    257 KB Eclipse Phase in the Mass effect Universe part VI Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)12:16 No.8418383  
    Because last yesterday's thread writefaggotry was made of fail.

    Back on the other thread someone commented that it would be quite possible to get either a Transhuman Specter or just a Specter Candidate.

    Also warships that use Modular design.
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    In the meantime.

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    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)13:38 No.8419370
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)14:10 No.8419739
    I figure a transhuman spectre would be possible with further negotiations with the council in order to give Transhumanity reach outside of the TEZ.

    This would be done in order for transhumanity to do some detective work on the Titans following apparent findings of Titan related technology somewhere or other. They take Shepard, put him in a peak human body, and send him out aboard the Normandy to find clues on the Titans and expand transhumanity's reach and access to information.

    The Normandy would still be a human/turian project, only with transhuman tech it would probably end up being more advanced, as transhumanity 20+ years after first contact would have a huge leg up on plain humanity 20+ years after first contact.

    Then space Shepard uncovers Reapers and shit and it all takes off. I'm still unsure of which Titan/Reaper connection makes the most sense in terms of story flow though.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)14:16 No.8419792
    There has been speculation that both the Reapers and the Exurgent are work of ETI's

    Also, its just me or Octopi swears in spanish?
    I got this from the EP book.
    "You seared my breeding arm puta!"
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)14:24 No.8419866

    I see much of the ME1 story unfolding more or less unchanged from the original, assuming the Reapers and Totans are not retconned together somehow.

    The major change would be an ability to communicate with the Geth in some way or other, using illegal tech taken out of the TEZ, expanding the storyline and providing further roleplay options. But in the end you still run after Saren and get to the Citadel as Sovereign rapes everyone. Fifth fleet comes in to save everyone (illegally), except transhumanity's fifth fleet is a swarm of heavily armed frigates crewed entirely by infomorphs and basically consisting of mass drivers with engines stuck to them. They take minimal loses while routing the Geth and "hold their own against Sovereign", although with its superior shields, this equates to "don't get mauled too badly"

    You can choose to save the council, which leads to better relations and some relaxation of the restrictions on transhumanity as well as a role for humanity in Citadel security (impressive fleet is impressive).

    You can abandon the council (paragon) and reform it as a good will gesture. Transhumanity is not offered a seat, but restrictions are softened, and transhumanity is allowed a bigger role in Citadel activity and security.

    You can abandon the council (renegade) and pretty much everyone hates your shit so hard after you try to form a new one headed by transhumanity. The Turians threaten total war if you don't back down, forcing transhumanity to do so, but maintaining a heavy fleet presence outside of the TEZ nonetheless.

    In general Transhumanity abandons restrictions on fleet size and goes balls to the wall in military preparation, more than raising a few eyebrows. But the Reapers are out there, not just the Titans and shit got REAL YO.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)14:31 No.8419947

    As a sidenote that is relevant later on, Cerberus is an illegal transhuman faction that operates outside of the TEZ illegally and does basically all kinds of crazy shit to covertly get information and technology for transhumanity.

    Possibly a branch of Ozma.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)14:44 No.8420109

    ME2 sees Shepard killed by the Collectors and brought back to life by Cerberus (except they just made him a new body using a covertly obtained copy of his infomorph, adding in whatever memories they could from his hideously fucked up space corpse.)

    You meet TIM, who is probably an AI, and he tells you that the collectors killed you and their jacking Batarians, blah blah blah who cares. Except you get a bombshell that the Omega Four relay that the collectors go through was apparently used by a Titan over 20 years ago, judging by probe data or something.

    The rest of the story is more or less the same, except for the Geth and Quarian loyalty missions being somewhat more colorful due to your background. In the end you go through the Omega 4 relay to get information on the Titans and stop the Batarian abductions (like you care). You're prepared to die, but with your fully upgraded Normandy you jump and find that the Titans and Collectors apparently had a massive fight, and the Titans won. They missed some collectors apparently, and you go land on the base, do the suicide mission and find a Batarian Terminator Reaper Larva that you kill.

    If you keep the base, Cerberus gets it and you are on good relations. Reapers are flying in everywhere, and you see an ominous silhouette of a Titan doing something or other.

    If you destroy the base Cerberus is pissed, and you go Rogue. Reapers are flying in everywhere, and you see an ominous silhouette of a Titan doing something or other.

    Also EDI is absolutely tsundere for you, Legion is even more of a bro, but Tali not so much considering you're a freak race that makes the Quarians very very uncomfortable.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)14:48 No.8420136

    For ME3, I have no idea, but best end would be Reapers vs Galactic civilization. And then suddenly TITANS come and rape everyone utterly, then disappearing again and leaving everyone with lots of brown stains to wash out of their pants, and even more questions.

    But that really does depend on the Reaper/Titan connection. I would like to see them as adversaries, with the exsurgent virus having finally created something from humanity's works which tops the Reapers and pleasing the ETI. But I have no idea, the Titan/Reaper thing is where the franchise mashup falls apart.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)14:55 No.8420219
    >Tali not so much considering you're a freak race that makes the Quarians very very uncomfortable.

    Meh, I still prefer the notion that Transhumanity and Quarians are bros, due to both having both lost their home world and help each other by smuggling tech.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)15:02 No.8420301

    After a century maybe, but I think initially transhumanity would be like the darkest reflection of themselves, and that would freak them the fuck out. Not to mention that transhumanity has loads of AI which would raise suspicion.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)15:15 No.8420438
    My take would be that there is no Reaper/TITAN dichotomy. They are one in the same. The seeds laid by the ETI were set up so that when a race gets advanced enough they get infected and become Reapers, scouring the galaxy like a giant reset button. But, something seems to have gone wrong. Perhaps the TITANS wised up to the plan or perhaps the Protheans subtle alterations works on very very long time scales.

    Also, I would have either Mass Relays or Pandora Gates, not both.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)15:31 No.8420691

    Hm,, I like this, and here's why:

    Titans caught the exsurgent virus and began to follow their new programming. But, they were too ell engineered to simply succumb and so they overcame the virus, stopped in the middle of exterminating humanity, and left in order to hide from the Reapers and consolidate in case the virus sent out some signal. The left using Mass Relays they erected.

    It turns out there WAS a signal in the virus, and Sovereign was awakened to investigate. Finding things as they were he initiated the Citadel protocol, but the keepers did not respond, and the relay stayed closed.

    Enter transhumanity, etc ME1 and ME2 as I wrote it above. The Titans are now bent on destroying the Reapers and safeguarding mankind. They nearly wiped out the Collectors, and are now pulling themselves together into one force alongside newly created Titans.

    So in ME3 the Reapers come and turn off all the Mass Relays, stranding the Titans, who do not have the ability to counter the Reaper's orders. Where Shepard and the main game comes in is to reactivate the Relays and allow the TItans to come and save the day, as Firewall/Ozma/Cerberus finds out that they are on humanity's side. Before this is happening the galactic navies meet the Reapers to hold them off long enough for Shepard to plot hax his way towards reactivating the relays.

    Titans come in and have an epic slugfest with the Reapers, finally driving them away back into dark space.

    I think this makes the most sense in terms of a Mass Effect tie-in as it keeps the Reapers as the big bad evil bastards, plus provides a plausible way for the galactic races to actually survive, while also giving Shepard a reason to run around and shoot things in the face.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)15:33 No.8420717

    Effectively this. While the Quarians and TH have several similarities in their respective situations, Transhumanity has nevertheless freely, and indeed, enthusiastically embraced and pursued technologies that kind of squick the rest of the Galaxy; considering that among these technologies are advanced AI's, and the Quarians history with similar Technologies, they're likely to be rather leery of the Systems Alliance.

    Also, there's a distinct possibility that the Quarians (and many others besides) might not make much, if any, distinction between Infomorphs and AI, and considering that the vast majority of Transhumanity has spent a significant portion of time as Infomorphs...
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    I find interesting the Idea of the Quarians initially not believing the whole deal with the TITANS.

    That what they believe is that Transhumanity are the Titans and that they exterminated their creators.

    At least for a while, until they become best bros.

    this could also indicate that Shepard could - technically - switch bodies between missions if his Specter ranks allows him to break parts of the law.
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    It could go from Infiltrator
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    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)16:03 No.8421224

    I'll take a 40lb box, good sir!
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    Extra Rape
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)16:18 No.8421460
    So the Normandy's hold would full of extra bodies for Sheppard.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)16:22 No.8421505
    >implying there are writefaggotry threads not made of fail
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)16:22 No.8421522
    THIS thread is made of fail
    Cut it out faggots
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)16:23 No.8421532
    It could.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)16:25 No.8421551
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    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)17:43 No.8422468
    What happened to Batarian Specter Captain Xepard?
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    I have no Idea.

    I tried to continue that idea adding writefagging that they are sent to pick up the Transhuman Specter Candidate.

    They pick up someone who could be (or maybe not) Transhuman Shepard at Eden Prime. Along with a large vault where he claims that he's keeping all his toys.

    Its only on route to the citadel that he informs them that he's not the specter candidate and there never was one. Transhuman Specter Candidate was a code word for the Prothean Beacon found at Eden Prime.

    And the mission they recieved from the ambassador was a test from the council to see if Xepard could be trusted. They did it intentionally in order to avoid the same information leak at Tumaat Prime.

    I however don't know where to go from there.

    It seems that in the current thread Xepard has been retconed.
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    Rape is now available in Sexy model.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)19:42 No.8424075
    We need writefags :C

    I did totally stole something a krogan would say when the first Transhumanity rumors arrive.

    First start with someone basically describing a Eldritch abomination.
    Then a Krogan (maybe Wrex for awesome points) says something like:

    "Hey, even if they turn out to be made of something that isn't even matter they can obviously interact with the universe. And if they can do it that means the universe can interact with them and that's why, technically, we can blow them up."
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)20:43 No.8424923
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    So.. how does it end?
    Transhumanity Fuck Yeah!
    Transhumanity Oh Fuck Oh Fuck
    Transhumanity it is still the same.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:12 No.8425296
    Damn. I liked Xepard. I had some work based off of him.

    Back to the drawing board...
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:18 No.8425375

    I probably should just read the Eclipse Phase rulebook, but gawdamn, I don't like reading things on computer.

    What's the whole informorph/biomorph difference thing? Is it just people's whims as to what they pop out as? Can bodies be quickgrown?
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:19 No.8425404
    >You can abandon the council (renegade) and pretty much everyone hates your shit so hard after you try to form a new one headed by transhumanity. The Turians threaten total war if you don't back down, forcing transhumanity to do so, but maintaining a heavy fleet presence outside of the TEZ nonetheless.

    I could see Transhumanity calling the Turians on their bluff and remaining at the head of the council. Especially with Transhumanity's ability to create doppelgängers for the purpose of infiltrating and manipulating alien species. Hell, I could even see the newly expanded Transhumanity kicking Turian ass (much of their fleet is destroyed in the attack on the citadel, and transhumanity's ships are cheaper and quicker to build), forcefully subjugating them.


    Transhuman Shepard wouldn't need Cerberus to be brought back, though. No Transhuman would, as they all have functional immortality. Cerberus would probably just be a shady organization with a huge espionage bent that has been infiltrating aliens for the purpose of manipulating galactic politics. You work with them because they're willing and able to finance your continued mission, without any sense of loyalty for them bringing you back.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:22 No.8425438
    What's the limit on up to date clone range?

    Again, don't know Eclipse Phase here. It could be Transhuman Shepard was just out of range.

    Or maybe Cerberus bought the rights to all of Transhuman Shepard's back up bodies.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:22 No.8425445
    On a second note. This could totally throw a wrench into the Reapers plans.

    This is a Outside of Context problem for the Citadel, there's a chance that they could face the full force of a Von Newman army if things go wrong.

    Everything could change. Weapon tactics, Intelligence gathering Methods. The development of newer and powerful weapons would be the order of the day.

    Transhumans already have Plasma and Lasers weapons that can bypass shields. This doesn't necessarily means that the Citadel Council are going to get Curbstomped, but more like they are going to look for upgrades, fast.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:24 No.8425470

    Initially relations with the Quarians would be incredibly sour because of the whole AI/infomorph thing. Transhumanity reminds the Quarians of everything bad about their history.

    However, eventually the economic benefit (and possible a sense of kinship over being screwed by computers) would win out. Transhumanity is capable of fixing the Quarian's fleet/planet/immune system problems at the push of a button. Hell, it's likely that there would be some cells within transhumanity who would be willing to write up a nanobot program to fix the Quarians for free. Giving Quarians a world to live on while the rest of the galaxy spat on them would go a long way.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:25 No.8425482
    Just remember that for the purpose of world building th TH navy shouldn't be that effective.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:28 No.8425531
    I guess that's my biggest problem with throwing EP humanity into ME: They just stride in and announce "BOW DOWN TO OUR MAGIC COCKS, BITCHES!"

    They can outinfiltrate the Salarians, out psychic bullshit the Asari, out AI the Reapers, out tech the Quarians, out fight the Krogan, out fleet the Turians, and apparently out pimp the Elcor.

    Again, I need to read the Eclipse Phase rulebook, but the setting can't just have humanity showing up and being all "TALI REPORT TO THE CAPTAIN'S QUARTERS FOR YOUR IMMUNOSYSTEM NANOBOTS INJECTED VAGINALLY."
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:31 No.8425588

    Well, if you have the money you can buy a transmitter that sends your data via quantum entanglement (or whatever EP's equivalent was). So, for someone as important and wealthy as Shepard, there'd be no range. And, even if there was, they would either recover the corpse for its cortical stack or use a backup that he made before going out on that assignment.

    >Or maybe Cerberus bought the rights to all of Transhuman Shepard's back up bodies.

    Even if they somehow bought all his morphs without his knowledge, he'd still be "reactivated" by the system as an infomorph and use his own funds/rep to get a new morph.

    Cerberus's resurrection thing simply doesn't work for a transhuman because all transhumans already have it by default without the aid of a shady organization.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:33 No.8425625
    TH Jack and Miranda are going to be fucking horrible cunts.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:38 No.8425717
    post away dude.

    there's very little "cannon" in here
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:39 No.8425720
    >Again, I need to read the Eclipse Phase rulebook, but the setting can't just have humanity showing up and being all "TALI REPORT TO THE CAPTAIN'S QUARTERS FOR YOUR IMMUNOSYSTEM NANOBOTS INJECTED VAGINALLY."

    Well... if we're going strictly off what transhumanity is described as being capable of doing in the Eclipse Phase book...

    Yes, they can be all "TALI REPORT TO THE CAPTAIN'S QUARTERS FOR YOUR IMMUNOSYSTEM NANOBOTS INJECTED VAGINALLY." The use of nanobots and genetic engineering are extremely advanced, and with transhumanity having access to resources outside the Sol System now, there isn't much of a reason why transhumanity wouldn't be able to afford such projects.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:43 No.8425783
    Thats interesting.

    I think that depending on his alignment it depends the organization Shepard will work for.

    Paragon points mean you get aligned with the "nice" organizations.

    Renegade points means you might start getting enemies inside your own group.

    also. here's the Eclipse Phase wiki http://www.firewall-darkcast.com/
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:48 No.8425863
    My take on the TITANs/Reapers thing.

    The Exsurgent virus is Phase One where the ETI gauntlet is concerned.

    Any races that survive it or miss it get hit by Phase Two, in the form of the Reapers.

    Both the Exsurgent virus and the Reapers have as a secondary goal the collection and transfer of any interesting data (read: all data that can possibly be collected) to the ETI for future perusal.

    There may or may not be additional phases beyond those two. If there are, no race in the Milky Way has encountered them and left any discernable evidence behind of their existence.

    The Reapers do not know their real purpose, as glorified specimen collectors and as insurance that any species that makes it out of the galaxy will at least be advanced enough to be somewhat interesting. The TITANs probably have a much clearer idea, but are also all insane.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)21:55 No.8425979
    The TITANs also are much more factionalized than the Reapers. The Reapers have one consensus on how to operate; the TITANs have countless different ones. If you've ever read the Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons, think the TechnoCore, except the TITANs are far more alien to us than the Hyperion AIs.

    The Pandora Gates are in fact separate from the Mass Relays; they operate under different principles and were made for different reasons. Mass Relays allow starships to travel instantly between points in space; Pandora Gates allow people and planetbound vehicles to travel quickly between planets.

    The TITANs are not necessarily any friendlier to humanity than the Reapers. At the same time, they just don't CARE about killing organics the way the Reapers do. And they and the Reapers will not like each other at all.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:12 No.8426209
    As far as the Sorting Algorithm of "Evil" goes, the Reapers are beneath the TITANs, which are far beneath the ETI. The Reapers can be defeated simply by shooting them until they all die. The TITANs can be contained in quarantine zones and dealt with at some point in the future, or can be negotiated with in those rare cases where you can figure out what in the hell they're actually thinking, but can't be fought and defeated now. The ETI can either be kept in the dark about galactic civilization or can be convinced that it would be more interesting to leave us alone, but cannot possibly be defeated or negotiated with as equals until we actually are their equal.
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    It is possible that it lead to at TITAN vs Reapers clusterfuck with the Galaxy trapped in the middle.

    The Reapers purpose is to collect organic lifeforms and stop any races from evolving too quickly.

    The TITANS have hit singularity and are getting more and more powerful.

    You can expect the Reapers going all "OH SHIT WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?!"

    We still don't know how undefeatable the Reapers are , it took the combined Citadel and System Alliance Ships to take out just one and chances are that their numbers could single handily block EVERY world in darkness.

    In the end, the only true choice is to hit singularity again. because evacuating the galaxy via Pandora gates won't be an easy task.

    Although a setting where a large portion of both the Citadel Races and Transhumanity evacuate to other Galaxies could make for an interesting setting all of its own. I can wait for mister airquotes complain about how horrible is to live all the time in a ship.
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    So I have been reading the wiki and Transhumanity WINS flawless vicotry, hands down. It was a good thread, check this out.

    Multiple engagements between the secret organizations Firewall and Project Ozma have convinced Firewall that it needs a Synthetic Morph capable of standing toe-to-toe with anything the enemy can throw at it. The result was the Tachikoma, specially built to perform in nearly any environment with complete autonomy and competency. The current lack of lack of Vacuum capable movement is rumoured to of been addressed in a new model scheduled to be brought into operation in the near future.

    Enhancements: Access Jacks, Basic Mesh Inserts, Cortical Stack, Cyberbrain, 360 Vision, Chameleon Coating/Skin, Direction Sense, Enhanced Hearing, Enhanced Vision, Eidetic Memory, Grip Pads, Hardened Skeleton, Heavy Combat Armour, Hidden Compartment, Hyper Linguist, Math Boost, Mental Speed, Mnemonic Augmentation, Pneumatic Limbs, Puppet Sock, Weapon Mount, Wrist-Mounted Tools.
    Mobility System: Walker (4/20) Wheeled (6/40) Web Sling (0/60)
    Aptitude Maximum: 40
    Durability: 80
    Wound Threshold: 16
    Advantages: Web Launcher Attack (Immobilising, use Exotic Ranged: Web Attack skill), +30 Exotic Ranged: Web Attack skill, +5 COO, +10 REF, +10 SOM, Armour 16/16
    Disadvantages: Social Stigma (Full Robot), Large/Heavy
    CP Cost: 170
    Credit Cost: Expensive(100,000 Rare)
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:21 No.8426334
    Transhuman Shepard would never have very many backups, given that he'd be a spec ops type; the more backups out there, the more chance one could be "acquired" and hacked for embarrassing secrets. And it's quite possible that he stopped backing himself up once he discovered the truth about indoctrination, to avoid the risk of corrupting his backups.

    The information and experience Cerberus needs, therefore, would only be found in his cortical stack.

    I kind of like the idea of Xepard, though. The thing I'd throw in there as background is that the Council still doesn't like the batarians at all; they just consider them a potentially useful tool if they need to counter the transhumans. The batarians, and by extension Xepard, should be fully aware of this.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:25 No.8426382
    I was toying around with this actually. Okay, lemme finish skimming EP, and I'll bash something out which will piss everyone off but whatever.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:26 No.8426407

    Ah yes, "The Cramped Quarters"
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:29 No.8426437
    The difference is that the Reapers can be killed by ordinary means, and that we can comprehend their motivations. With the TITANs, neither of these is really the case.

    As for how to work out a way that transhumanity and the rest of galactic civilization could survive that battle, we could look at Babylon Five for inspiration. The Reapers are the Vorlons, the TITANs are the Shadows, transhumanity and the various other species of the galaxy are the younger races. It's obviously not an exact fit, but it at least gives some ideas on the tone you'd want and on how transhumanity and company could survive without just abandoning the galaxy.

    PROTIP: Tachikoma aren't in the core book, they were made by a fan. Therefore, balance is not guaranteed. Although that does look fairly reasonable cost-wise.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:32 No.8426472

    If anything, he'd have even more backups after learning about indoctrination. "Oh shit, I've been indoctrinated. Oh well, I'll just suicide and reload from an earlier backup from before I was indoctrinated."
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:33 No.8426487
    I don't understand the need for Cerberus at all what with the Jovians more than making up for them...or did we decide that Cerberus is a Jovian project/faction?
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:34 No.8426498
    Canon ME had the Turinan Fleet almost totalled by the Geth. How would they manage to do anything to Transhumanity? They would just be told to sit down and shut up.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:34 No.8426502

    Jovians wouldn't use the sort of tech associated with Cerberus.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:36 No.8426531
    The other reason to have Xepard and Transhepard in the same universe would be the hilarity when they meet each other.

    If you wanted to go for the Ultimate Combination of Epic Awesome, though, have Xepard and Transhepard assigned to work with each other as the first Specter candidates from either of their species. Partly because the Council wants to see just how well a batarian can manage a transhuman as a test of the theory behind accepting the batarians, partly because a major faction in the Citadel government would love to see the whole idea of accepting the batarians and/or the transhumans crash and burn and they're just looking for an excuse.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:37 No.8426545
    He'd have to be very thorough about leaving a datatrail for himself, then, because his backup wouldn't have any memories of anything since he stopped making them.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:42 No.8426617
    Transhumanity is far more fractured than the Geth, and is going to have to build a fleet pretty much from scratch. And the amount of fleet they build is going to be limited by none of the factions wanting to give any other faction enough warships to be able to win an inter-transhuman war.

    Cerberus is either an incredibly black Jovian project intended to fight the xeno, mutant and heretic with their own weapons, or it just gets replaced by Firewall. If the latter, "Cerberus" becomes slightly nicer and considerably more competent, as well as less well-known by the average transhuman or galactic citizen.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:45 No.8426658

    I'm still not convinced that he'd want to limit how often he makes backups because he's on special ops. It's likely that Firewall or some other equally powerful organization would be able to cover it up. Besides, it's not exactly like Shepard was meaning to keep all the stuff he saw a secret.

    If anything, he'd have X-cast all his encounters with the Reapers just to piss off the finger quoting Turian council member.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:48 No.8426690
    >Transhumanity is far more fractured than the Geth, and is going to have to build a fleet pretty much from scratch. And the amount of fleet they build is going to be limited by none of the factions wanting to give any other faction enough warships to be able to win an inter-transhuman war.

    As fractured as they may be, Transhumanity recently expanded beyond the Sol system and now has access to a wealth of resources that can be pumped through cornucopia machines to create a fleet.

    Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they blanketed a couple worlds with nanobots for the sole purpose of turning the planet into a giant factory for starships.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:52 No.8426750


    Shepard: "But I broght my own gun!"
    Xepard: "And we don't have badges"

    Councilor McAircuotepants: "SHUT UP!, WHY CAN'T YOU BE LIKE SAREN OVER THERE?"

    *Saren is seen exerting brutality, destroying a new life form, and laughing maniacally inside sovereing*

    Xepard:"But Saren is working WITH the Reapers!"

    Councilor McAircuotepants: "Ah yes, the Reapers...."
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:53 No.8426759
    Which would prevent them from conquering the galaxy handily after the Geth attack. It would not stop them from taking over the Citadel and other crucial ME infrastructure if they chose to try for it.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:55 No.8426776
    Except that there would be major limitations on how many warships each faction could maintain at a time, in order to reduce the chance that any one faction could start conquering the others. The Systems Alliance would probably be allowed to keep more warships than any other faction, but wouldn't be allowed to bring more than a couple into the Solar System at a time under any circumstances other than an existential threat to transhumanity.

    Somebody who goes off and tries to von Neumann his way to a fleet is going to be found out before he finishes and killed. When I say "killed", I mean "his operation destroyed, his current morph destroyed, his cortical stack destroyed, all existing backups destroyed, and any recent fork destroyed".
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)22:57 No.8426804
    I propose having the Transhuman Fleet mostly compromised of Modular Warships that can take advantage of Combined Arm Tactics to the limit.

    Imagine a Lego piece being your standar Gun on engine ship. a little too underpowered? slap a couple of Point defense "bricks" and Shield "bricks".

    If they turn into a giant robot or require J-pop soundtrack for such feat is entirely up to rule of Cool.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:01 No.8426857
    One of Shepard's backups getting hacked for info isn't going to be an "embarrassing story in the newsvlogs" issue. It's going to be a "SPY SAPPIN' MAH MILITARY/CORPORATE SECRETS" issue.

    Broadcasting Reaper footage is something he won't do before he can confirm that there's no way the indoctrination effect can function through it, especially if he's broadcasting a full XP.

    And if Firewall or Cerberus or whatever we decide on is behind his resurrection, they might be able to locate and obtain his backups.

    Although it could also be fun if Transhep starts the events of ME2 as one of those backups, probably one made before the events of ME1. He then has to reintegrate the info from his stack when someone finally recovers it from the Normandy wreckage.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:02 No.8426860
    Remember about ship limits, only dreadnoughts themselves are limited by Council law, cruisers and frigates are not.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:02 No.8426861

    I think you're underestimating how quickly Transhumanity would be capable of producing stuff once they get out of their system and have access to resources. I also think you're overestimating the Council's ability to keep a watchful eye on Transhumanity.

    The big thing holding Transhumanity back in Eclipse Phase is that, despite their technology, they have a distinct lack of resources as a result of being confined to a single solar system and lacking FTL travel.

    Pushing them into the ME universe removes both of those barriers, allowing Transhumanity's capacity for production to skyrocket. The only remaining roadblock left is that Transhumanity's fractured political landscape, and it's quite likely that this is something that could be overcome in the face of the Council treating transhumanity like lepers. The Systems Alliance is already a step in that direction.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:08 No.8426965
    >One of Shepard's backups getting hacked for info isn't going to be an "embarrassing story in the newsvlogs" issue. It's going to be a "SPY SAPPIN' MAH MILITARY/CORPORATE SECRETS" issue.

    Shepard doesn't exactly have much in the way of military corporate secrets, though. And if someone is capable of hacking into his backups for that data, they'd probably be fully capable of hacking into other sources for the data.

    >Broadcasting Reaper footage is something he won't do before he can confirm that there's no way the indoctrination effect can function through it, especially if he's broadcasting a full XP.

    Indoctrination doesn't work that way. There's no way Shepard or anyone viewing the XP will become indoctrinated from downloading the Prothean Beacon, Conversations with Saren, and Conversation with Sovereign XPs.

    >And if Firewall or Cerberus or whatever we decide on is behind his resurrection, they might be able to locate and obtain his backups.

    There's no reason for there to be any special organization behind is resurrection. Every transhuman gets resurrected on death (though, only those with sufficient credits/rep will be able to jump into new bodies). Even the clanking masses get resurrected.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:12 No.8427020
    The Council isn't the only thing keeping a watchful eye. Transhumanity would be policing itself, and would be much better at it than the Council. The degree to which the Fall left transhumanity scared of things like using von Neumann machines to stripmine planets and convert them into starships can't be overemphasized.

    I also think that Transhumanity is actually more likely to splinter into many different quasi-political entities (I'm calling them that to avoid restarting the whole "why would transhumans have a government?" debate with an implication that they have something we'd recognize as a government), with the Systems Alliance as a transhuman version of a slightly more powerful UN.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:16 No.8427073
    that's the gist of it!

    Oh, they abide by the rules. they only have lots and lots of specifically purposed cruisers and frigates but no Dreadnaughts.

    But when shit hits the fan.



    Just not as vulnerable or as over the top as the former video, but it should give an insight of what I am saying.

    Basically the dreadnoughts are already there. they are just disassembled.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:18 No.8427112
    On the second point, Indoctrination seems to have something to do with repeated exposure to various sensory stimuli inside of a Reaper. It's pretty much a basilisk hack, and from ME2 we know it continues to function for a very, very long time after the Reaper itself dies.

    So talking with Sovereign probably wouldn't do it, although we can't be completely certain. Repeated viewing of any XP made inside the dead Reaper in ME2, though, would indoctrinate the viewer just as effectively as being in the Reaper itself.

    Also, not quite every transhuman gets rezzed on death. You need to have backup insurance, a retrievable stack, or both. If your stack is unretrievable and you have no backup insurance, you're dead. And how much effort somebody will go to to retrieve your stack if it was just lost instead of destroyed depends on how much your friends like you or how much your insurance cost. And I'd have to check the book again, but I suspect that Firewall prefers that you not make backups without informing them of when and where you made them (assuming you're not just using the one they make themselves), for opsec reasons.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:25 No.8427216
    They don't even need to do that, unless the Council defines dreadnoughts by weaponry as well as tonnage.

    Unless it's a transport, a transhuman warship isn't going to have crew spaces; it'll just have niches for maintenance bots. Even a transport could theoretically have very limited living space, only keeping enough to store and decant biomorphs and then house them for a day or two on approach. So a transhuman ship will have a lot of tonnage freed up for all of the other bits on a warship: engines, weapons, shields, sensors, etc, and won't have to limit its performance to keep a biological crew alive.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:26 No.8427234
    Why not have Cerberus be a joint venture between Firewall and Ozma?
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:28 No.8427268
    Once again its already all covered in Eclipse phase.

    There are plenty of groups that live in pseudo Anarchy Communism lifestyle.

    The Cornucopia Machines achieved that. but despite everything the Most powerfull groups band themselves and establish a style of goverment.

    Some are a democracies where every decision must be achieved by votes of every citizen. Some choose leaders. Some have a rotary system of leadership for those activities that require supervision.

    Some factions allow private properties, some don't some are consumerism factions, some are hardline dictatorships like the ones seen on South America (I'm looking at you Jovian luddites), some are basically Gypsies. etc etc.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:29 No.8427280
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    Do you think some pittance like "evidence" would put a stop to his majesty?
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:29 No.8427282
    That makes a surprising degree of sense.

    On a related note, I guess the Illusive Man of EP/ME would be far more true to his name.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:31 No.8427306
    They hate the shit out of each other but it seems possible.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:32 No.8427320
    >Also, not quite every transhuman gets rezzed on death. You need to have backup insurance, a retrievable stack, or both. If your stack is unretrievable and you have no backup insurance, you're dead. And how much effort somebody will go to to retrieve your stack if it was just lost instead of destroyed depends on how much your friends like you or how much your insurance cost.

    Enough people have backup insurance that permanent death is a rarity. Besides, even if you don't have the connections or insurance to get you a new body, you'll probably still be uploaded to the net as an infomorph.

    If regular people off the street can afford backup insurance and do the whole functional immortality thing, then you know Shepard would be able to pull it off. And in the event that his backup were lost, there would be so much public outcry over some bureaucrat accidentally deleting Transhumanity's greatest hero that it wouldn't be worth the headache.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:32 No.8427336
    It would when we let him see the XP playback from inside the Dead Reaper, accidentally indoctrinating him in the process.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:32 No.8427337
    The same could be said for most members of the Systems Alliance.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:37 No.8427418
    Spoiler alert: in the Xepard arch the Ambassador is described as someone that has resemblance to The Illusive man.

    He also has no body heat or breathes, that probably means he managed to sneak a syntmorph in citadel and knowing TIM some stuff more.

    Ok, I have an Idea.

    What would happen if Firewall discovers that the Conduit is the Statue on the Citadel Lake?

    Do you think they would attempt to snatch it to somewhere else?
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:38 No.8427437
    I figure that the last backup they absolutely trust would be one made before the Prothean beacon experience. Later ones were either kept with him on the Normandy or were carefully examined for any possible sign of viral/memetic contamination by his handlers before they would be OKed for use.

    One of the big decisions would be whether or not to initiate a merge with his old memories when they found his stack again in ME2.

    Also, the reason why permadeath is so rare in EP isn't backup insurance, although anyone with money or who lives in the Outer System is likely to have it; it's rare because cortical stacks are extremely hard to destroy and most people aren't killed in a manner that makes it impossible to retrieve their stacks. The stack is the thing that everyone who's not a flat automatically has. Backups separate from the one your stack makes for you aren't necessarily guaranteed.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:45 No.8427530
    Well, he might also be a thoroughly 'wared biomorph. There are upgrades that let you screw with your temperature, or need to breathe less frequently, or have an internal emergency reserve of oxygen, and I can totally see the Illusive Man using those just to disconcert people.

    As for the Conduit... I don't think Firewall would move it until they could be sure that they could do so safely. By safely, I mean "without fucking us and letting the Reapers in".

    More likely, they'd try to move or control the other end, on Ilos. Transhumanity having a back-door into the Citadel that no other species knows exists would be a nice ace-in-the-hole.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:49 No.8427609
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    Or you know what?

    Everything could turn out better than expected and the result is somewhat akin to Cortex Command.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:57 No.8427744
    ...you lost me.
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:58 No.8427754
    "Feros, mixed investment company- funds from Serrice, Armax, Binary Helix...Among others. Looks like it got bought out recently," Garrus had an annoying habit of reading all related data to a mission before a drop.

    "By who?" Sometimes though, it WAS relevant.

    "Bunch of shell companies, companies which I managed to trace back on the Citadel, Xepard," Garrus leaned in, a predatory gleam in his eyes, "Saren owns them."

    "This Saren thing again?" Ajli was a good soldier, to be sure, to have survived events on Tumaat Prime. But she had often told Xepard in private her own concerns about operating with the rest of the crew. In her opinion, they treated the Batarians like Varren at the end of a leash. At times, Xepard found it hard to disagree with her.

    "Enough, we're not getting into an argument here-"
    "But, Xepard, you'll like this- just the past month, Saren sponsored a Zone Transfer permit to move Transhumans to Feros," The mandibles on either side clicked against his face with barely concealed pride at his discovery, "He got it."
    "Humes? On Feros?" That got Ajli's interest, "Why would Saren agree to do that?"
    "I get the feeling we'll find out," Xepard put on his helmet, as finally the Skyllian announced the atmosphere was clean enough to exit, "Just be ready for anything as soon as we get out. This colony has been out of contact for a week, and nothing's come out since. Make sure we and our ship can when all this is over."
    >> Anonymous 03/05/10(Fri)23:58 No.8427762
    Brains in jars controlling clones mining a planet.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:04 No.8427838
    Basically transhumanity successfully survived their darkest hour. In the end a Symbiosis with life and machine led humanity to abandon their bodies and exists as a pure state of mind.

    Basically humanity is now a bunch of brains in a jar. this allows anyone to control a body remotely or put yourself inside a vessel of your liking.

    Imagine EP, but not so grimdark, instead of cortical sacks you have actual Brains that transfer themselves from body to body, or control remote bodies.

    The wars are entirely for resource basis as the intergalactic trading alliance or some shit needs them to continue.
    >> ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ !!gue29btBylw 03/06/10(Sat)00:06 No.8427858
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:07 No.8427876
    >> guy from tg 03/06/10(Sat)00:11 No.8427928
    You guys are archiving this stuff right?
    I would love to catch up on these threads.
    Or is reading the pictures all I need to do?
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:13 No.8427953
    I think all the previous threads got archived.

    And I recommend reading them, because there's a bunch of stuff we've come up with there that isn't in the pictures.

    Also, I applaud the Xepard writefag and eagerly anticipate the next segment.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:15 No.8427976
    Xepard had never liked the Citadel gear that he and his fellows had been initially assigned as soon after leaving Hegemony space- after the coups of the late '60s, and subsequent splintering of Hegemony space, the state production facilities zealously defended copyright and technology against espionage, to the embarassing point where the first Batarian specter found himself purchasing his own gear before the mission.

    After making his way through seventy eight geth combat platforms without having to reload, Xepard was significantly more appreciative for ammunition no longer being a concern with the new design.

    "Geth are getting bolder- how the Hell did they get so far out here without anybody noticing?"
    "We thought Tumaat Prime was secure as well. Maybe we aren't the only ones getting stealth upgrades."
    "Finally! Reinforcements!" The conversation was brought to a halt as one of the survivors shouted relief from behind the impromptu barricade.

    "Wait, you're all there is?" Elok Lykho glanced between the three of them in shock and amazement, "J-J-Just a batarian destroyer?"
    "He's the first batarian specter, if that's any comfort," Ajli butted in cheerfully.
    "I, well, it's just," Though the turian mayor was at a loss for words, his salarian compatriot filled in the blanks.
    "We spend a week in radio silence, and being moments away from the nearest mass relay, the only official response they saw fit to send was a lone destroyer?"
    "It might have something to do with them," Garrus responded with a wave towards the abominable forms spread among the colonists.

    A strange, octopodal figure lumbered across the camp, omnitool flaring, flanking a large, brutish looking biped with arms longer than its legs, with a third behind- a tough looking, inked figure. Transhumans. Wandering about. Armed.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:21 No.8428069
    "What-" The turian for the life of him looked shocked for a moment, staring, before a look of (What Xepard had been trained to interpret as) offense rolled across his features, "They are our fellow COLONISTS! Your, your implications are, are-" He stopped, a hand going to his forehead, chitin plates coming together in pain, "Abominable, in such desperate situations-"
    "We understand, and my comrade meant nothing by it," Xepard said diplomatically, "But to be frank, this is a tense diplomatic situation. No one wishes for Feros to be another relay incident."
    "Hmph," The Salarian glanced away, "Typical."
    "No, Ion, it's alright, the commander...The commander is here to help, the colony. Right? Yes. We can forgive that. So long as he makes sure Feros survives."
    "I, uh, well, we could probably evacuate this place if-"
    "What? No, don't be ridiculous," The mayor waved his hands around, "Don't you see? This is our home. We can't leave this place! We-" He cocked his head then, as if listening, before shouting, "Geth! Geth in the tower! Places everyone!"

    Xepard, in retrospect, probably should have found it suspicious how easily and smoothly all of those present worked together to flank and cover- if he wasn't worried at the brutal and horrific damage that the transhumans inflicted on the synthetics.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:24 No.8428093
    Hmm. An octomorph and an apelift, plus someone in tattoos. Interesting trio...
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:26 No.8428119
    Well, either everyone in the colony is actually a transhuman, or all of the Citadel aliens have the standard suite of transhuman upgrades.

    The latter possibility might actually be more interesting. And more dangerous for the Citadel, because it means that some of their citizens are choosing the transhuman lifestyle.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:29 No.8428168
    It's on now chaps

    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:33 No.8428218

    Disregarding the idea of the Thorian.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:36 No.8428243
    How about this: Bracewell probes are a piece of Reaper technology, galactic booby traps that can simultaneously subvert local resources to attack sentient races that encounter it, and send comprehensive information on those races to whatever counts as HQ.

    However, the Bracewell probes were built to attack pre-Singularity technology, and because the TITANs were already a transcendent intelligence, the Exsurgent virus was only partially successful in corrupting them. The virus's success is reflected in the attacks on transhumanity and the forcible uploads, and the failures are represented by the TITANs retaining individual goals and identities, and eventually deciding there was something better for them to do than killing transhumanity.

    The Reapers seen in ME already have access to enormous material resources and overwhelmingly powerful technology, so subverting their victims' technology is a much lower priority. Since this is supposed to be a blend of EP and ME, perhaps the 'normal' Reapers could be changed somewhat, deploying some form of forced uploading against enemies?
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:37 No.8428260
    I wouldn't be surprised if the guy that its struggling against the Thorian turns out to be a synthmorph in this universe.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:38 No.8428271
    F5ing like the fist of the North Wind
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:40 No.8428313
    Fuck, I'd forgotten about that.

    The problem is that the Reapers already have a perfectly good trap set up in the form of the Citadel and the mass relay network. As far as we know, it's never failed before, and the Reapers have been using it for tens of millions of years. A separate array of Bracewell probes would actually be counterproductive for them.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:42 No.8428334
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    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:44 No.8428360
    Things were standard from there. Xepard couldn't be bothered to engage in any ad-hoc civil engineering on behalf of the colonists. Some Serrice employees were found on the skyway, on the way to the Serrice building- they were unaware that the colonists had been alive, and only the manager had recognized Saren's name, and even then only as a stockholder.

    "So, Garrus, so far the Saren conspiracy theory is coming up empty," Ajli cut in as soon as they entered the Mako, "And this mission is turning into a waste of time."
    "We helped a colony in need," Xepard growled- not out of any particular disagreement with Ajli. The mission felt like something any blasted cruiser could do. The sneaking suspicion was that the Council had realized this, they had just sent in Xepard for- for what? To jerk him around? To make nice to the transhumans? To warn the transhumans?

    "Commander! Look out!"

    For a bare moment, Xepard had been lost in thought- hadn't looked at the straight road ahead of him.

    That's all three hundred eighty two pounds of flesh needed to pierce the shields and send the Mako flying across the skyway, one wheel sent comically whizzing down to whatever passed for a surface on the planet.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)00:50 No.8428434
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)01:04 No.8428601
    Xepard was the first out, as soon as his medical exoskeleton kindly pinged medigel to seal his bones. Pulling his legs out of the mangled mess that was once the chair, he elbowed open the door, and rolled out just in time to see the ten legged behemoth launch itself from the skyway road, and slam down next to the wreck.

    It looked somewhat like a Collector, if one of those horrible things had grown sixty times in size and spread out across like a groundcar. Covered in bone plates that swam with color to match the skyway. Two titanic pincers snapped in front of it, as the thing approached. Slowly. Sizing him up?

    It got an incendiary grenade for its troubles. Xepard had more than enough experience with Weird Alien Shit™ to know that despite being hot enough to sear through tank armor, the most likely scenario would be to piss the thing off. So, as the blast went off, Xepard went running, wishing he had taken someone who could have delivered a neural shock to the thing. At least the thing started making some kind of juddering noise.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)01:08 No.8428670
    was that a camo tachikoma?
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)01:11 No.8428701

    Fast. Also, what the horrific flaming alien was.

    Within moments, Xepard was regretting setting the thing alight as the thing pounced on him in the middle of skyway, slamming him down as his medical exoskeleton kindly reminded Xepard that medigel treated burns should be examined by an experienced medical professional at a later date.

    "Commander!" Ajli noted Xepard, was thankfully stupid enough to start running towards the thing as she overheated her assault rifle unloading on the thing. Gave the thing reason enough to delay disemboweling Xepard to attempt to scissor her head off.
    "Commander, I don't really have a clea-"
    "I'd much rather get my skull exploded then devoured! Take the sho-"
    Then, all was silent as a minor bomb went off by Xepard's face, sending pieces of flaming crab raining down upon him.

    He was later informed a second and third shot were necessary to fulfill immobilize the thing.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)01:12 No.8428712

    I... I think it was a Nova Crab with sheets of active camo glued to its carapace.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)01:15 No.8428740
    >> I'M GOING OFF TRACK BUT FUCK IT I AM FINISHING SORRY EVERYONE Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)01:21 No.8428822
    Despite all wisdom, the rest of the journey to the Serrice labs was undertaken on foot. Thankfully, the three were expert soldiers and loaded to bear. Unfortunately, no one was carrying anti tank weaponry.

    By the time they had gotten to the Serrice building doors, it had grown evident that most of the action had already occurred by the time they had arrived.

    Laying outside the doors was something that looked almost like a beetle, only partially disemboweled- shining mass of cables and silvery substance pooled out around it, surrounded by a great deal more corpses- one of which looked like a transhuman octopod.

    "Is...Is that a Geth dropship?" Ajli whispered, walking forward towards it- before Xepard stopped here.

    "Don't get any closer.
    Then, the others saw it. Something working over, and through the metal and material of it, breaking it down.
    "Nanites. Stay clear. I'm not dying until I found out what the Hell is going on."

    They kept a wide berth from the heat and noise of the machine and its disease.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)01:23 No.8428838
    Sounds like it.

    In which case they might be finding a cortical stack somewhere. Those things are built to last, after all.

    Although I doubt it was being ridden by a fully-aware ego unless they really wanted to pretend to just be some weird local species, because a fully-aware ego would probably have had at least one gun to go with the novacrab's natural weaponry.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)01:25 No.8428854
    Looks like the dropship ate something it disagreed with.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)01:30 No.8428914

    I don't know much about Mass Effect, but from the reposted parts of this, I'm guessing only transhumans use nanotech. Still have no idea why a transhuman tried to kill Xepard, though.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)01:36 No.8428971
    They're on Feros, so the Thorian is probably fucking with things.

    The nanotech is probably transhuman, but it might also be TITAN in origin. Which would be a lot scarier, because TITAN nanotech can actually do the sort of shit you think about when you think about replicators. Transhuman nanotech can't transmute atoms by moving around protons and neutrons, and a given nanite swarm can only be programmed to do a single type of job. So if you wanted to disassemble a pile of metal and turn it into a bicycle, you'd need two separate swarms, one to disassemble the metal into raw materials, one to assemble that feedstock into a bike.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)01:42 No.8429023

    Actually, I kinda fell in love with and devoured the Eclipse Phase sourcebook, so I do know bizarre things like the rumors that TITANs have 'femtomachines'.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)01:49 No.8429087
    Yeah, the TITAN playbook contains pretty much every piece of technology that's possible according to physical law, and some that in so far as we currently understand physics take physical law out back and rape it into a sobbing wreck.

    On a completely different note, the Factors would be interesting to try to fit in somehow, because they'd be far more alien than any of the other species in EP or ME. But I have no idea how they could be shoehorned in, at least in any way beyond another bit of background flavor.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)02:18 No.8429354
    Bumping in hopes of more writefaggotry.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)02:24 No.8429406
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)02:24 No.8429416
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    Bumping with art, MOAR writefaggotry!
    >> Nargh. Slow. Reading EP. Afraid of jumping into plot point BUTWHATEVERLETS Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)02:32 No.8429514
    Whatever conflict had raged outside, had ended inside. The whole of the building was silent, as the three made their way through it.

    It was simple enough- Serrice laboratories thanks to Asari regulation had to upload blueprints of all their structures to the extranet. Though they had seriously contested it in court, the refit Prothean tower was ruled to also be considered a lab so long as research work was taking place within.

    It didn't take overly long to find the server farms where the majority of the data, if any would be stored. Even as Xepard was getting the door open, Garrus was already rattling off the plan to get his nerves under control.

    "Alright, all we have to do is just find a way to crack the assessment filters on these without triggering a system burn out-"

    Garrus's briefing was interrupted by a large heavy pistol being pointed in his face as the door slid open. Ajli and Xepard reacted with admirable speed, leveling their weapons at the robotic humanoid form beyond the door.

    "-Or I can get a gun pointed in my face and we can have yet another armed standoff as happens way too often around you, Xepard."
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)02:35 No.8429553
    F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)02:36 No.8429570
    >> freakinglaptoprazzumfrazzumcallinnightsoon Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)02:45 No.8429660
    "Commander Xepard," Clipped words buzzed from the still robot face as a pair of ocular units focused on Commander Xepard, "I'm surprised. You've made very good time."

    "Flattery might get you somewhere if you stop pointing a gun at a member of my crew, hume."
    "You already guessed what I am?" Inflection of curiosity from the transhuman, before it focused back on Garrus, and slowly lowered its pistol. Garrus in turn swept his own pistol up.

    "Synthetic design. Not geth, and definitely no model the corps produce. No, you're transhuman alright," Xepard lowered his rifle, "And not with the others. Why?"

    "Same reason I picked up from your chatter, before your encounter with the grossly modified and hijacked novacrab. I want to find out what's going on."

    "I'm really not in the mood to trust anything that clanks sir, specially with the friendly welcome we've gotten from anything synth. I say we fill it full of holes, and if anybody asks, we say it was a Geth."

    "I assure you, you might succeed, but I doubt that you'll have a backup to rouse if things take their course, Gunnery Chief Ajli. Commander Xepard, if you would deter your companions' suicidal actions?"

    Smug. Annoyingly so. But... Well, Xepard had seen enough and read enough to know that that attitude wasn't there for no reason.

    "Hold your fire. Alright, human. Let's talk about what's going on here."
    "What have you heard about the Specter Saren?
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)02:46 No.8429667
    Awesome. And if you're reading EP, I'll leave you to it. For obvious reasons, it should help a lot.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)02:52 No.8429733
    more please
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)03:03 No.8429892
    "Xepard-!" Hissed Ajli, before a warning glare from the Commander brought her back down. Despite everything, she reluctantly lowered her weapon, though all four eyes narrowed in hate at the synthmorph.
    "Specter. Gets the job done," Xepard stepped through the door, his eyes sweeping the server arrays- noting with slight satisfaction that the power was off. Hopefully the transhuman didn't have time to get to the data before him, "No friend of transhumans."
    "Yet, he personally weighed in and approved several licenses for transhuman individuals to come to Feros, on behalf of several companies, Kol, ERCS, Serrice, Haliat arm-"
    "Shell companies, or companies he's a major shareholder in," Butted in Garrus, still holding his pistol up, "As managed through Barla Von, and others in the shadow finances."
    "We know this," Xepard stepped across the room, taking hold of Garrus's pistol arm and pushing it down, "Hume, if you have nothing further to add to my investigation, I recommend you cease interfering with specter business and step aside, unless you have something to add?"
    "Yes. Most of the individuals were hired by a single hypercorp- none of them were eminently qualified. But strangely enough, there was a great deal of money spent for sleeves- er, how do I put this, bodies?"
    "Your people were running corpses?"
    "No, no, it's..." The transhuman stopped, cocked his head, as if waiting for a sound, before frowning, "Damn regulations. I wish I still had my muse. Look, it's not very important. What's interesting is that everyone of those sleeves, the vehicles, were biological."
    A pause.
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    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)03:15 No.8430026
    "I, uh, I don't follow as to how this is important."
    "It's expensive, and unnecessary for the labor I've seen so far. Very diverse, far beyond mere comfort of those involved. Risky investment, considering Saren. Pay off would have had to have been extreme."

    A flicker of something almost like amusement passed across the synthetic features after it said the words.

    "I imagine this isn't what they expected."
    "Oh I don't know, fighting geth has to be a treat, you don't see them beyond the Veil very often."
    "Please, Xepard. Some of my people could be dead out there, or worse. My attempts to interrogate my transhuman colleagues provoked hostility. They are unwilling to consider leaving the colony, or get even the most minor of checks. And the thought of dumping the bodies left them in a panic."
    "I'm...I'm sorry, 'dumping the bodies'?"
    "I'll explain it later Ajli," Xepard crossed his arms, glaring at the synthetic, "Yeah. It's fair to say that the colonists aren't normal. What are you proposing?"
    "Your aid in gathering evidence. When I came up here, an octomorph had been in the process of attempting to destroy the mainframes."
    "What happened to him?"
    "I stopped him."
    No further discussion was needed there.
    "I need you to go and return power to this base, and secure some form of verification- unfortunately, I don't think my bit crunching is quite up to cracking these-"
    "No. Ajli! Secure these mainframes. I'm going to go get verification and get the power going again. Make sure this perimeter's secured, I don't want to have any unpleasant surprises when I get back."
    As Ajli pointedly shoved past the synthetic, the transhuman looked over at Commander Xepard in frank annoyance.
    "Permit me to guess. You don't trust me?"
    "Oh, believe you me, it shocks me too. Why shouldn't Commander Xepard trust the robot that hides in empty labs and sticks pistols in the faces of perfectly innocent turians?"
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)03:29 No.8430141
    "Come on. We can accomplish our objectives together, human."
    "Hmph. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer, hm? Fine. So long as I find out what I need to know by the end of this."
    "What is your name anyway?"
    "My name?" The synth paused, then nodded, "Right, yes. I didn't introduce myself in the confusion. My apologies, my name is Shepard."
    "Shepard?" Garrus glanced at the human in annoyance, "Really?"
    "It's my name," Shepard replied with some annoyance, "And yes, I am aware of the similar sound of it. No, it was not intentional, it's just been the name my family's had since Earth, I'm a little attached to it."
    "Ah yes, the famous 'Shepards,' of far away Earth, Xepard, your family ever swing by Sol anytime? Maybe humans are a distant offshoot of the Batarians?"
    "Focus on the mission, Garrus."
    "Ah...Eh, yes, commander."
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)03:37 No.8430228
    Nameless writefag, you have just given me a hearty serving of LOL on which to sleep tonight, and for this I bump the thread and praise you.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)03:39 No.8430237
    I'm thinking of leaving it there.

    I need to determine whether or not the transhumans should be loling at the Thorian. So I'm going to have to read all of EP, basically.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)03:40 No.8430247
    >"Ah yes, the famous 'Shepards,'

    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)03:41 No.8430255
    Better to take your time with writing.
    If you need to stop a while and work out plot, then do so. Better to have thought out and good writing then crap made of text.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)03:44 No.8430272
    Troof, though I sometimes have trouble telling the difference. BUT OH WELL.

    Anyway, if I get to the end of this, should come with my next shitgasm, hopefully it'll get across how I think transhumanism would fit in with Mass Effectan species... And how it wouldn't be a total curbstomp. Even without bringing in 'lolhax' BS on either side. Or maybe it'll become a trainwreck of 'tard that people will feel embarassed about knowing about.

    I felt bad for throwing in the ah yes, but damn it the thought was in my head and i could not resist getting it out, screw it, I'm going to have a taco and sleep. Maybe take a while to read Eclipse Phase, but if I see another one of these threads within 1-3 days I'll amble in if appropriate to drop another text block.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)03:47 No.8430300
    later bro
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)05:01 No.8431006
    Writefag, why are you saging you own fanfic ?
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)07:10 No.8432357
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    Bumping with D'AAAAW
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)09:03 No.8433180
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    GEEEEE I wonder when are we going to get the next update.

    And Shepard looks humanioid right?
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)10:00 No.8433604

    In EP transhuman society, with a few exceptions like Nova Crabs and morphs for uplifted animals, it's generally considered tasteless to have a non-humanoid body, regardless of whether it's a synthmorph or a biomorph. This prejudice comes from the Fall, when some strains of the Exsurgent virus would basically turn their victims into shoggoths. So looking like a snail or whatever makes people at the very least suspect you of being a post-human, and at worst gives them flashbacks.

    Even though he's sleeved in a synthmorph, Shepard is probably more lifelike than a Geth right now.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)11:29 No.8434369
    If Saren has even a pint of smart in his brain he's already noted that one of the best chances to disrupt Transhumanity is to dump the Thorian against the Jovians.

    While they are mostly nBSGlike luddites with the same attitude they still remain a strong power in the EP transhumanity.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)11:33 No.8434399
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    ...just because.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)11:40 No.8434459

    And how would he do that?
    Take the huge C'thulu type monster and dump it on one of the Jovian habitats?
    He'll never manage that, they are extremely xenophobic as far as I recall and would probably shoot him down if he appeared in their territory
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)11:58 No.8434602
    Wasn't his control involving something like spores?
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)12:02 No.8434643
    Yeah, but he had to be in vicinity to excess control over them. Also it is a slow process.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)12:34 No.8434936
    Hey in the meantime I found something Hilarious.

    Basically what if Shepard never asked to be a hero.

    Its based on Cyaphas Cain Hero of the Imperium
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)14:42 No.8436208
    About the only exceptions are certain of the more specialized synthmorphs, and even then they're still going to at least have as much humanity as, say, the robots in WALL-E. Reaper morphs, maybe not so much, but since those are explicitly designed to kill things and blow shit up it's not as big of a deal.
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)15:33 No.8436756
    Haha, this is great
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)15:50 No.8436962
    Jesus dicks, this is still here?

    Okay, let's talk about nanotech, head hacks, and quantum entanglement.

    Namely, what are the extents/limitations of these techs?
    >> Anonymous 03/06/10(Sat)16:05 No.8437140
    >(4): Shepard developed a reputation for these periodic strolls throughout the Normandy. While it did serve to establish stronger ties with the crew, and with his squad members in particular, it also caused no end of confusion and bewilderment, as crew members would often see him pop in a room, walk around and depart without saying a word. In particular, he was infamous for occasionally walking in, coming to a sudden halt, making an about-face, and leaving as mysteriously as he had arrived.

    I like how this fanfic describes unusual (in terms of reality) behavior of pretty much every RPG protagonist ever

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