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where is the writefag when you need him?

Pity bump

I forgot to add my nitpicks.

Medigel is a Human invention in the Mass Effect universe. it was created by the Sirta Foundation.

Although, judging by the biotech in the Eclipse Phase universe reaching to that technology shouldn't be too hard. I forgot the name, but there's a Corporation that specializes in Bioresearch.

One thing.
By the events of Mass Effect 2.

Isn't Shepard essentially transhuman by that point?

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Oh hey, Eclipse Phase ME.

Gimme a bit, I just gotta drain my ravioli. I'd feel bad for you to start a thread like this without fulfilling your request.

>>8458177
Welllllll... He's a cyborg with serious augments, but he's nowhere near the EP level yet. No cortical back ups, mind jumps, all that. But, technically speaking, he's transhuman, yes. Just at an immature level.

"Generator's should be below," Xepard indicated to a stairwell leading to a pile of rubble on a ramp leading downward with a dismissive way of his still smoldering assault rifle, "Though, with that, I don't see what we're going to do."
"Do you think your helmsman can bring in the ship close enough to get cabling in?"
"What, just park it outside? The Feros hangar is safe, I'd rather not risk our way out of here unless we're REALLY in trouble, not to mention the Skyllian's already near boiling from the stealth systems we kept up just to get he-"
"Commander," The synthetic human interrupted, focusing on Xepard, "If you'll permit me, I can get the generator working."
"We are on a bit of a schedule here- I'm sure you can dig through that in but we have more important things to do than watch you demonstrate your advantages over our puny meat bodies over a couple hours," Garrus seemed a little on edge. More so than usual.
"All I'll need is some omnigel, and I can get the cables hooked up," Shepard stepped forward, "With your permission?

>>8459125
Whatever man.

Why don't you put yourself a name? that way we can recognize you or bitch about lacks of updates and shit.

and one more thing.

Is TransShepard gender left unspecified in purpose

>>8459125
It seems that Garrus has the same issue with the Transhumans as Saren does.. I wonder if it also involves mindbroke POWs.

"What do you need omnigel for?" There it is again. His suspicion.

"I intend to repair the generator. I need raw materials for that. Omnigel is a remarkably useful base material that has all the ingredients I need, Vakarian. Will you let me help out, or do I need to draw you a diagram?"
"There is still a collapsed WALL in the way, hume! That's not going to change no matte-"
"Garrus, that's enough. About how much do you need?"

The synthetic was crouched now in the shadows by the rubble, occasional sparks and a soft, passive glow from something red hot emitted from Shepard's hands. Despite there being no statements of space needed, both the turian and the batarian were well away at the top of the ramp, uneasily sidling and keeping an eye out for wandering geth.

"What do you think he's doing?" Asked Garrus, peering past Xepard towards the transhuman crouched by the rubble.
"Nothing that'll hurt me," Xepard mumbled, before glancing up, "Why don't you ask him?"
"Me? Well. I don't know," Garrus scratched the back of his neck, "I mean, I don't think I'm a real drum beater, y'know, a colonial uprising type, but I gotta admit... It's not really comfortable having a human this close."
"You didn't really seem the type to let species really bother you Garrus. You seemed pretty alright with me, even though I'm a batarian. Or Wrex, he's a krogan."
"Well, that's different commander," Something approaching a smile crossed Garrus's face, "We won our wars with you guys, no offense Commander, or at least we agreed to call it quits."

"But the humans?" Garrus turned back towards where Shepard stood, now pulling at thick, three inch cable which wasn't there before, "Humans beat US. We never really got over it, as a people. Especially when the survivors were repatriated. A few of them are still alive. It's horrible. There's a saying, in the Turian vid business. 'If you want to make a killing, you have to kill at least one transhume by the end of the story,' doesn't matter what else happens, or how well made it is, so long as a hume dies, well, that's just gravy."
"All due respect, that sounds kind of creepy."
"And all due respect on my part commander, but you don't understand," Garrus was suddenly in Xepard's face, a flash of anger crossing him- before he got himself under control, "Obviously, I'm not saying all transhumans are bad. CSec's shown me that there's no thinking species that doesn't have it's monsters. But your people never really lost anything to aliens."
"What about the war we lost to you?" Xepard glanced over his shoulder. Shephard rose now, and was walking back.
"Okay. My bad," Garrus turned back a grin on his face, "I should've called that one a draw."

Wow, I fucked up saging. Durp. Oh well, it's probably unnecessary.
>>8459388
Eh, not really, just thinking about it from a cultural perspective. Think of all the bad blood over Vietnam that America is slowly getting over forty years on.

>>8459272
Shep is being left unspecified more because of a lack of plan on my part. Probably ruining things by coming out from behind the curtain and speaking, but eh whatever. I just want to get through to Species 37 by the end of tonight.

And I'd rather not a name- I've done a lot for /tg/, and I figure things done for /tg/ need to be done for /tg/ and by /tg/, not by Somefag!24352kreg.

Also makes it easier for me to run away if all falls apart in flames. ANYHOO OFF THE CUFF WRITING HOOOOOO

"Okay, I've gotten it taken care of."
Garrus and Xepard glanced back to the pile of rubble.
"I...Ah, I fail to see the difference,"
"I fixed the generator. I didn't need to move the rubble," Shepard stuck its thumb up the ramp, "We should probably get back. I don't know how much heat will build up on those thorium salts you have down there, but I do know I didn't make a permanent job. My composites can't take the heat for very long."
"If you got the power back on, then why haven't the lights turned back-"

Xepard's point was interrupted by a dull, subsonic rhythmic thumping that picked up pace, slowly causing yellow lights to flicker on throughout the room.

"...You timed that, didn't you?"
Shepard's shell face was entirely still as it replied, "I had forgotten to specify that my machines were in the PROCESS of repairing the generators, my apologies, Xepard."

"Alright, now all we need to do is find the verification," Garrus finished, in his irritating habit to remind his crew mates of objectives.

"Alright," Xepard nodded, turning away, "You're useful, hume."

Xepard decided it would be best not to confirm his suspicions that the repairs might have been nanotech grade; the worrying implications would probably drive Garrus into a frenzy of paranoia.

>>8460001

Good stuff dude, particularly liked the touch about the turian cultural reaction to being soundly trounced. Or rather, being trounced in a spooky and totally unknown way. After all, they probably have no idea what even happened to their ships. The attack happened so fast and all of the surviving ships were captured by the Alliance leaving no evidence to study. Rolling with the Vietnam analogy, it would be like if in 1971 the Viet Cong made all US forces self destruct and months later returned a handful of traumatized POWs (some of them straight-jacket crazy).

"Commander, over here!"

Down in the basement, near a varren infestation they found her. An asari researcher, torn to pieces. A hail of blue dimmed gunfire added pieces of varren to the the pile.

"Beautiful," Xepard sighed, "Okay, just...Just reach in there and- What are you doing Shepard?"
Shepard glanced over, looking between Garrus and Xepard, holding the torn off Asari's head in hands, "Getting the verification?"

"That's her head," Xepard reached in, tearing through the mess of blood and flesh, until he found her card. He tore it off, along with a small chunk of her pants, "This is her verification."

"You still use cards?"
"Yes. Heads, while charming in their fashion, tend to be rather,"
"No, I was talking about optic scans, genetic readers, pan cortical assessors if you're really fancy-"
"No, no, it's, uh, it's just the card."
"Really?" Shepard glanced back at the slightly chewed Asari head in his hands and threw it over his shoulder, "Then why are we rooting through this pile of corpses instead of going up and hacking the mainframe?"

"Beeeeecause we thought...?" Garrus looked to Xepard questioningly.
"We have the card! End of debate, we go up, ask the machine what the Hell happened, then we report why the geth are attacking, and we move on with our lives."

Shepard would have lodged the protest that he was aware why the geth were attacking, were it not for the immediate geth ambush that then struck them.

>>8460655
The Thick Plottens!

Also this is what I see every time something is mentioned about the Jovian Junta

>>8460001
Great. Now you got me thinking about the Turians having their own version of the Terminator.

But with Transhumans as the evil machines.

Also alternate title.

-IT CAME FROM TRANSHUMAN SPACE!

>>8460655
god damnit i was about to go to bed! and now i find this! fuck damn my love for EP/ME universe!


but damnit i lol'd, that was awesome

could someone archive this please, i would do it but i don't know how? maybe that way i can read it on sup/tg/ in the moring

>>8461576
OP here, I'll archive it as soon as he's done.

"Species 37..."

Despite Shepard's disbelief at how easily the VI failed to tell the difference between an asari researcher and a heavily armed batarian commando, the crew had managed to get the information and found out the truth.

"The thorian."

"So, all those colonists are, are,"
"Under the control of the alien," Xepard finished. Silence reigned between them, as the glowing, buzzing, holographic VI watched them, passively waiting for any questions.

"Did Saren know about this?"
"With his attention to detail, I would guarantee it, Xepard. Which makes his, ah, attention to transhumans permits make a whole lot of sense in that light," Garrus shook his head, "Though, really, a lot of these guys according to records went back off world, why would he bother?"
Shepard looked up suddenly, alarmed, "The morphs. That explains it. Damn it, that explains all of it,"
"All of what? Morphs?" Xepard glanced over, as the transhuman suddenly stood up pacing.
"That would explain why such a human hostile entity like Saren would issue transhuman permits, it would explain why they excluded info and synthmorphs whenever possible- and damn it, that would explain why my contact never met me. And why the morphs are moving around on their own."
"You really need to explain the morph thing to me in detail sometime-"
"We don't really have time. Especially if you want your ship to survive, Xepard. Call your vessel. Order it to not let ANYONE in, no matter what. Otherwise, none of us have a prayer of leaving this rock alive, or controlling our own minds."

>>8460655

I have this great mental image of Transhepard looking at the card, looking at the head, looking back at the card, blinking and then hurling the head like he was going for a three-point shot. It of course bounces extensively off walls and columns before coming to a stop.

In general, I like playing up the subtle ignorance of Transhepard with regards to how things are done in Citadel space. It has to be a huge culture shock trying to operate without all the ubiquitous information technology he's used to. Plus, it doesn't help that everyone looks at him like he's going sprout metal tentacles and go all "DESTROY ALL TURIANS" at any moment.

>>8461685
thank you kind anon, thank you

>>8461740
F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

>>8461740

What happened to the geth ambush?

>>8461934
All the Geth died. because a Wizard did it.

"Joker!" Joker. A nickname that Derad Mro had earned in flight school. Annoyingly wanted to be called 'Joker', rather than his appropriate rank or name. Xepard was struck for a moment with a fantasy of letting him be torn apart by the colonists, but decided to let the opportunity pass.
"Xepard!" Informal bastard, "What's going on? We lost you for a moment there-"
"The COLONISTS, helmsman, are they trying to reach you?"
"What? Well, their mayor came by, but the XO didn't want anybody on ship without your team, so-"
"Pull off of this planet Joker, give us an hour," Xepard glanced at his chronometer, "And keep your fields up, there might be more than geth trying to bring you down out here."
"Sir-"
"Get the damn Skyllian off surface, idiot, it's got people on it that aren't as stupid as you. Get moving or I will go over there and shoot you myself, do you understand!"
"Yes sir!"

Xepard kept the comms on, long enough for the VI to announce that the Skyllian was out of comm range before he turned to Shepard and the rest of the team.

"Now. Let's pick up where you left off, about the nanoswarms."

Trans-Shepard?

"I don't think your ship is at much risk, Xepard, you needn't have eliminated our support."
"Listen, hume, there's a titanic plant underground that's mind controlling all organic life that's breathed in its spores over the matter of a few weeks, there are heavily armed and armored geth dropping in erratically, and now there's the possibility of a swarm of microscopic machines disassembling all they can reach. I'm not risking my ship on the possibility that none of the above could reach them. Now. Tell me again, about the 'possibility' of agonizingly slow disassembling death?"
"Please, you make it sound apocalyptic. The possibility is, Xepard, that one of our hypercorps was working with Saren on this deal. Possible, if somewhat remote considering Saren's paranoia. If they were aware of the research, they would be aware of the political shitstorm they'd get if word gets back. If they were not aware, they would still have tech in place ready to disassemble all evidence they were here-"
"Even if the evidence were walking and talking?"
"Not out of the realm of possibility."
"Charming people," Garrus murmured.
"Point is, they would leave disassemblers there as well. However, usually they're programmed to be selective- they might be focused on all transhuman tech for instance."
"I don't like how many times you're using the word 'usually' here. What do we do if they did leave this trap?"

Shepard considered things before glancing up and shrugging, "Run."

"Great. Alright, gear up, all of you. We've got a weed to pull in an hour."

>>8462153
He mentioned something about at least 2 eyes in the other thread

He's also capable of much more emotion display. so he's probably more elaborated

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8455287/

>>8462410

hmm, couldn't transhumans negotiate with the thorian by offering it empty biomorphs to play with, in exchange for information or technology?

bamp

>>8463181
i went full paragon on the thorian and I still had to kill him.

He's a Jerk.

So, are the mechanics of Eclipse Phase good? What's it like?

"Another reason that we shouldn't have sent off the Normandy-"

They had reached the entrance to the skyway, and were staring at the Mako wreck.

"It'll probably take a while for us to walk back to the colony," Garrus glanced over at Xepard, "Too bad the area was waaaaaaaay too risky for the frigate, huh?"

"Funny. Keep walking, unless you wouldn't happen to be able to rebuild a wheel drive, Shepard?"

The vacant face glanced over, before turning back to the skyway head, and strode on.

By the time they had reached the colony, the planet's face had nearly entirely turned from its star. Long shadows cast by the vast prothean towers stretched across the red dimmed landscape, scratches from fingernails long past.

"When we go in, don't go looking for fights- just try to find a way to the Thorian. The ship leaving might have set them off, but hopefully, we won't have to resort to violence. They're just being puppeteered after all," Xepard stood next to the entrance, changing his rounds to anti personnel.
"And if they shoot first?" Ajli asked.
"Make sure you shoot better," Xepard responded.
"Hang on Xepard, reportedly, their nervous systems are weakened, vulnerable to stimuli, if you give me some time-"
"Shepard, we don't have time for this, and I'm not putting my squad at risk. There's only four of us, and thirty of them. The odds aren't very good as it is."
"Those are colonists Xepard, not soldiers. Let me go first, no one wants a massacre here after all. Let me take the risk Xepard, I can do this."

Xepard's four eyes locked on the burning two of Shepard's optics...Before eventually Xepard nodded.

"Fine, transhume. I'll give you ten minutes. See if you can save the colonists, but if you die, you'll get no tears from me."

Ten minutes later, Shepard gave the all clear.

Fuck yeah paragon transhuman Shepard!

The three carefully picked their way through the unconcious bodies, weapons still up, unbelieving.

"Amazing. How'd he manage to do this?" Garrus glanced over at Xepard, who was pondering the scene.

"I expect he'll give an overblown explanation when we see him. Or tell us it's none of our business. Son of a bitch," Xepard shook his head, chuckling, as he knelt down, feeling for a pulse on a turian's neck, confirming what his HUD had already told him, "The cocky bastard actually managed it."

Xepard reflected that he was, against all expectation, beginning to like the synth.

"It was actually pretty simple," Shepard was struggling at the moment to prise apart a prefab floor, "Their nervous systems were taxed to the limit," The synthetic evenness of voice was disconcerting even as his alloyed hands bended steel out of the way, "The Thorian enforces control with pain, so, it was relatively simple to overload it, bring them to unconsciousness. Good thing there were no krogan among them, otherwise this could have gotten ugly. As it was, unfortunately, one of them killed themselves," The face flashed a grimace, before righting itself again, a formality more than anything, "I couldn't reach him in time unfortunately. Poor fellow seems to have been convinced that he was doing me a favor."

The synthmorph stood away from the newly made hole, and indicated a ramp, "The Thorian should be down there. And be careful, there are still some missing morphs. They'll be fresh, so I doubt we'll much of a choice there. Along with whatever other self defense mechanisms the thorian has."

>>8463276

Ha, wonder how turian councilor is going to react to the report of "Oh yeah, a shady transhuman death robot went out of it's way to save the colonists - I wanted to just shoot them, but hey there you go."

I really REALLY want Shepard to bust out a reaper morph for the climactic battle, show those fucking Geth how a REAL synthetic fights.

"That was a pretty casual way of saying you single handedly knocked out a colony of people," Garrus, once again, could not just let something go.

"A poorly armed colony of civilians that were pushed to the brink by an alien manipulating them? My employers would be wondering why they paid so much to bring me back for if it went any other way."

"Enough. Good job Shepard. Shame you're not working for me. Let's kill this thing and get out of here."

They descended rapidly- despite everything, the area was mostly clear, well aerated, and easy to navigate. Typical corporate design for ease.

Xepard was privately gladdened, hoping he could make it back to the ship in time for the one hour mark- the risk of nanoswarms seemed less and less viable as time went on.

Finally, the ground leveled off, and his HUD pinged him that he had reached the level the Thorian should be at.

"Okay, so we just need to go ahead, throw an incendiary grenade on some plant and then...Oh boy."

The four stopped to take stock of the ichor dripping nodule easily the size of a bus hanging in front of them off of hundreds of stalks.

Xepard sighed.

"It can NEVER be simple, can it?"

>>8463819

Sorry Xepard, it really can't.

>>8463667

Trans humanity lends Shepard a reaper morph with extra room for 1 synthetic to control the morph, and 3 seats for passengers. this replaces the mako

Does, uh, does anything else drive these threads aside from the writefaggotry?

Cause he reached his objective. I think.

So. Uh. Is everyone held hostage by his words now? Anything EPers have to say about ME/EP things?

>>8464588

Fire wall brings you back to life in mass effect 2. The reapers weren't attacked by the Titans and now the collectors are attacking small colonies of Batarians, and delving into the THZ bringing Trans humans with them. Why either are going missing is a great mystery to you in the start. after progressing into the story though you find out that the collectors are using trans human tech to uplift Batarians and then copy mass Batarian minds and bodies to make reapers to replace sovereign. The trans human that are captured are torn apart and scraped, taken apart at code by level of code, or refitted and used in missions against Xephard

>>8464916
What would the TITANs be doing in all this?

And is there an ETI?

>>8465181
My theory- Reapers are preparing for war with the TITANs who are schizophrenic and winging for the galactic rim.

They recognize an upstart species and want every scrap of information and possible advantage they can have over the TITANs. So- grab transhumans, get their data, see if any of them will offer any advantage.

Then why grab the batarians? Well, Xepard had luck against Sovereign at least- see if there's something special about his species.

Archive or wait for more writefaggotry?

>>8465181

The Titans are gathering technology and grabbing different races across the universe. After you capture/destroy the collecter base do you learn that the reapers met with the Titans and formed an alliance. The council races,geth,terminus systems, and Trans humanity must band together as the Titans will be there to help the reapers in an undisclosed amount of time. the collector general sends you a transmission of the agreement showing Xephard that if he can defeat the reapers the Titans will leave the Milky way Galaxy.

So now we still can have the reapers and the Titans, No ETI

>>8465459
It's been hours bro. I leave it up to you, but I doubt we're going to get anything more tonight.

Transhuman tech would make resource gathering a lot fucking easier.

I hope Xepard doesn't kill Wrex...

>>8465513

...I've done that as well...

>>8465465
Truth be told, I think the transhumans would probably take this opportunity to make it clear to the Council races and other species that now is the time to follow their lead.

No more bullshit regs on genetics, AI research, and nanites.

Thanks to curing the quarians and krogans, and having the geth on their side, along with the fuck huge technological advantage, they'd have the support to make things VERY clear as to who was in charge.

This isn't Mass Effect. Where's the "GOGOGOGO" and "ENEMIES EVERYWHERE" refrains?

>>8465586
This is a 100% correct representation of mass effect.

>>8465523

You......you killed Wrex?

;_;

>>8465586
I think the only thing that made me so mad about the ENEMIES EVERYWHERE was that there was only fucking three of you, and you usually stuck together as a group.

Please fan my friend! ^_________^;
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Everybody-loves-a-Ying-/10150109880665720

>>8465542

That all depends on Xephard

Does he enforce the bigoted regime that got him killed patrolling for geth, used the Krogan unfairly, refused to help the Quarians or try to contact the geth, forcing the galaxy live under a Batarian council in the future.

Or does he accept the help of others, Krogan Quarians, Asari, Turian, and Transhuman. Does he willing take the steps that Humanity made and become a being beyond what nature would normally allow.

Neither is a Paragon or Renegade choice. Do you evolve or Stagnate commander?

>>8465637

GOOD HEAVENS NO

There were times I said, "Shepard, Grunt, Shepard, Wrex."

Hell, I did it while typing it just now (during the first Grunt).

>>8465586
2 has a nice bug where a hit enemy will think it's on fire/ fallen off a ledge, and start screaming hysterically. They won't break cover and will continue screaming until you run over and kill them. Not quite as bad as 4 people all yelling "I will destroy you!", but it gets annoying if you're in a prolonged firefight.

>>8465685
Shepard-Grunt just seems...Unnatural. I don't know how to put it.

>>8465465
OP of >>8465583 here; I've always thought it would be more interesting if the TITANs were superintelligent beings opposed to the Reapers but otherwise holding as strong 'organics are inferior' views as the Reapers. They think themselves superior guiding forces, as opposed to elements of destruction. If you're familiar with Babylon 5, then the TITANs would place themselves as Vorlons.

>>8465907
I like the sound of it.

Meaning if Xep and Shep fuck up too badly, they'll have the choice of the Kohr-Ah or Kzer-Za.

>>8465943
>they'll have the choice of the Kohr-Ah or Kzer-Za.
Holy shit, cannot unsee.

>>8465994
YOU ARE NO LONGER FILTH

YOU ARE A *THREAT*

THREATS CALL FOR GREATER ATTENTION

bampo

>>8465994
Shit, they both suck.

In the other thread there was a mention of.

>Yes, they can be all "TALI REPORT TO THE CAPTAIN'S QUARTERS FOR YOUR IMMUNOSYSTEM NANOBOTS INJECTED VAGINALLY."

I want to see this further developed, or in any case, there will be some sort of shenanigans when and IF Transhepard is allowed on board the Skyllian to aid in the search for Saren.

Anyone given any thought to modifying the Eclipse Phase rules to accommodate Mass Effect? I'm guessing that shields would be a big pool of durability points that only work against fast projectiles and regenerate once left alone for a few rounds.

How would mass effect weapons work though? Just apply the railgun template to a normal gun, up the ammo capacity and call it a mass accelerator? Or just up the ammo capacity on the normal guns? I was never clear on whether mass accelerators were supposed to be more deadly than a conventional firearm or not - my gut assumption is that they're no more powerful but have absurd ammo capacities. (Thanks to firing very small projectiles *very* quickly)

Do transhumans have the option of buying a "biotic powers" implant/subsystem for their morphs? It would probably be expensive, if just for the element zero - but I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. As far as I know biotic power is the result of manipulating element zero in your body with your nervous system, seems like something that could be built into a morph as you're constructing it.

>>8469726
It launches a piece of metal with the size of a grain of sand at supersonic speeds.

>>8469908

Yeah, but is that more damaging than a larger but slower projectile, or does it all just balance out damage wise?

For example, does an assault rifle in the ME universe shoot with the impact energy of a modern .50 cal or does it act more like an M16 with a 2000 round magazine?

>>8469908
You do realize that modern day weapons already shoot metal the size of YOUR THUMB at supersonic speeds, right?

>>8470004
I just quoted something out of the Codex.

Speculation has it that it doesn't really do much more damage to tissue than regular ammo. but it has unlimited ammo.

>>8470321

If that's the case, I think the best Eclipse Phase system representation would be to use the regular guns out of the box, apply the railgun "antipersonell or anti-armor ammo ONLY" restriction and then multiply the ammo by 10. Or would it make sense to make it truly infinite?

Another thing to think about is heat, should it stay in a tabletop version of ME/EP or should it just be dropped to avoid extra record keeping?

>>8470438
There are several weapons and mods in ME that are restricted/related to heat.

Discarding the impact that heat has on ME weapons would be... unwise.

>>8470661

The question is how to factor in heat without lots of record keeping? My only idea involves 'heat tokens' - whenever you fire a gun at a rate above single shot you get a 'heat token' - perhaps one token for burst and two tokens for fully automatic. Each gun has a 'heat capacity' equal to the maximum number of tokens it can handle, once # of tokens = heat capacity the gun locks up. Gun cools down at a rate of one token every round it's not fired and unlocks when it's back to zero.

Maybe could even tie the ME2 system in... when your gun overheats you can spend a round ejecting coolant from a limited supply to get back in the fight quickly.

>>8470819
That one is interesting. Just take in mind that cooling is faster than automatic shooting.

>>8471215
and about the Thermal magazines... Its also a good idea.

>>8463819
What the hell writefag?!

Please tell us when you are going to stop writing. I was F5'ing like the fist of the north star for an hour after that until I gave up and went to sleep. Now I wake up and see that was the last post.

bumping with relevant picture.

>>8471233

I'm thinking that each gun would have three additional stats. Heat Capacity, Cooling Rate and Thermal Clips. Capacity would be the # of tokens it could handle at max, Cooling would be how quickly it dissipates tokens once it stops firing and Thermal Clips would be the number of times you could reflexively dump all your tokens. Varying those numbers you could give each class of gun a radically different feel.

>>8465586
> GO GO GO

STORM THE FRONT

>>8471852
I like that Idea, it seems simple enough with not much record keeping.

Are you planning a ME inspired EP game?

One thing I'd like to see in this writefagotry is Transheppard switching to a baseline human body at some point and everyone going 'WTF who/what are you?!'

>>8471988

Possibly! I find something oddly compelling about the combined setting. On first glance it seems like the Eclipse Phase system can handle the ME additions, but I'm trying to feel out how to fit it together.

Regarding the guns, I'm not sure how to distinguish them in the heat stat category...

Perhaps assault rifles are high capacity, high cooling, low thermal clips? Sniper rifles are low capacity, low cooling, low clips. SMGs are middle of the road, with high capacity, but low cooling and high clips? Pistols have medium capacity, high cooling and low clips?

Actually, I'm not sure on what feel each gun should have. Anyone have an idea?

>>8472199
Probably something along the lines of.
"I'm commander Shepard and this is my favorite body in the Galaxy"

>>8472248
Rifles have a 4 heat capacity, but each shot add 3 heat tokens.
Assasinate: "Increased damage and perhaps 100% accuracy "

Assault rifles can fire on burst or automatic. they could probably handle 4 or 5 heat capacity and 1 for burst fire 2 for automatic fire.
Overkill:"Increased damage, automatic fire will cost only 1 heat token for the following 4 rounds."

Pistols have 5 heat capacity and 1 heat token if you shoot 2 times in a single round, a single shot per round doesn't generate heat but pistols deal low damage
Marksman: Increased Accuracy, you can do 1 more shot per round before adding a heat token.

>>8472379
Shotguns 4 heat capacity, 1 heat token per shot.

>>8472292

>>8472379

Interesting. I was running with the idea of having the heat tokens be constant between guns ( +0 for single shot, +1 for burst, +2 for full auto) for simplicity's sake, but changing the way heat tokens accumulate opens up some interesting ways to vary the guns...

Maybe this...? Overall single shot is +0 tokens and the Eclipse Phase standard that all guns have single/burst and auto settings

Pistols: 4 capacity/ +0 tokens for burst, +1 for automatic/ -2 cooldown rate/no clips - light damage, but keeps going and going and going

SMGs: 4 capacity/+ 1 token on burst, +2 tokens on automatic/-2 cooldown rate/4 clips - good damage, but low heat capacity, relies on clips to keep the rate of fire going. Idea is that its high intensity but low endurance. Good for close quarter OH SHIT fighting

Shotgun: 3 capacity/ +1 token on burst, +2 tokens on automatic/-1 cooldown rate/2 clips - great damage, shortish range, small capacity and limited clips. Idea is you have to pace yourself. If you go over capacity (2 bursts back to back, you automatically eject a clip. If there's no clip, gun fires then goes offline and requires repairs.)

Assault rifle: 4 capacity/+0 on burst, +1 automatic/-2 cooling/2 clips - good damage, good range, good dissipation and accumulation. Idea is that if you pace yourself it will serve you reliably. Has limited clips however

Sniper Rifle: 4 capacity/+2 on burst, +3 automatic/-1 cooling/1 clip - high damage, high range, accumulates heat really quick and loses it slow. Has very limited clip capacity. You can rock out with it every once and awhile, but only for a short while.

>>8472909
The only thing wrong is maybe the Sniper rifle, since it can't fire more than 1 shot before overheating.

I listen to this everytime Transhepard is mentioned. expecting an action scene of course.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pQFS2WybW4

So far the writefag has avoided any of them.

>>8473106

I'm imagining that the modes of fire for all guns will look like this (using the sniper rifle as an example).

General rules:

1. Heat tokens are applied or removed at the end of your action for the turn.
2. You may fire freely so long as # heat tokens < capacity (So, you can overheat, wait a turn and start firing again - even if you didn't completely vent the heat)
3. If you end up with more heat tokens than the heat capacity of the gun the gun automatically ejects a clip and subtracts its normal heat capacity from the total. If you have no clip, the gun is disabled until it can be repaired

Example (using the sniper rifle):

Single shot: You can fire forever at this rate
Burst: 1st round takes you from 0 to 2 tokens, 2nd round takes you from 2 to 4 tokens, 3rd round you are in overheat - you can then either eject the clip and go back to 0 and fire in the 3rd round, or you can wait until at least 4th round before firing again
Auto: 1st round takes you from 0 to 3, 2nd round takes you from 3 to 6 - gun automatically ejects the clip and returns to 2 tokens. If you fire full automatic in the 3rd round the gun will fire and then become disabled until it can be repaired.

>>8474029
Didn't your initial intention was to simplify the token system?

Its needlessly overcomplicated when it can be solved easily with the 4 capacity and 3 heat tokens per shot. max 2 shot per round.(with overheating)
every round the gun is not fired, remove 2 heat tokens.

bamp

We need more writefags.

I keep having to scroll past this massive pile of shit. Can you scoop it off and take it to suptg or some shit like that?

>>8475188
Newfags can't hide threads.

UMAD.xcf

>>8474029
One more thing.

Why not asign Burst and Auto modes only for the weapons that can actually pull it off?

>>8477438

Rolling with the Eclipse Phase rules as much as possible. Everything can fire in single, burst or automatic - even sniper rifles. Not sure if I would make that true of both transhuman and Citadel weapons or not. Possibly only the transhuman weapons are capable of rocking-out so to speak.

That actually speaks to the major issue I have with combining the rules. Should the transhuman equipment in general be just plain better than the Citadel stuff? Reading the EP rulebook it seems like the transhumans have superior technology in general, particularly in manufacturing, materials and information technology. I'm worried that taking that route will result in Transhuman Wankfest: The Game (TM).

Could possibly reduce the impact of that by making the theme of the game about operating with minimal support in Citadel space, massively outnumbered and outgunned. Hopefully turns the tech advantage into a desperately needed edge rather than overkill.

Novacrab official concept art.

Bit late but since I saw it laying around, I thought It might do a good shameless bump

>>8478052
this really should be the case, transhumanity on the whole still lack FTL travel, and so even with the extended expansion made availible resources would still be limited as of the time of the setting.

Of course, the future would quickly change and it would eventually become a Trans-wankfest unless the Citadel moved to incorporate them more inclusively...say to fight the looming reaper/titan holocaust.

>>8478052
Balancing issues.. its gonna be difficult to iron them out.

Another Issue I had was finding the most appropiate picture to represent Transhepard. He seems to be able to furrow his brows and smile. that means he has a face.
Its difficult finding an awesome picture.

Does this look like a Reaper Morph?

Oh, I had an Idea. Terra Firma exists, but its a Radical group that wants to Transmute every sapient being in the galaxy.
Sure, they see it as the "only way to survive" but mixed with some religious mumbo jumbo.

>>8478301
I will deal with it the same way 1632 dealt with the issue of Uberstomp. By not being stupid.
The Transhumans would have most likely triggered a large galactic cold war, in every side armament has become the priority, though the Galactic Council is restricting the rest of the galaxy to catch up some advancements need to be made.

>>8478301

It seems to me that the best way to limit the transhumans as a galactic power is to strongly limit the amount of element zero they have access to.

I'm imagining that the best way to do that is to make it that the mass relays replace Pandora gates completely. The TITANs found the relay, activated it and escaped through it rather than the gates. That way, the TEZ restrictions placed on the transhumans are actually a meaningful restrictions - I see alot of story potential in agents sneaking out through the border, or trying to engage in covert activity while on legal business. It would have something of the Cold War are East/West Germany spy drama flare.

Anyway, for the purposes of limiting the transhumans it could be made that the TEZ is very sparse on the element (perhaps this was a deliberate move by the Council). The relative shortage of the element would mean that the Alliance would have to very carefully husband its resources and engage in covert activity where possible. It couldn't just nanofabricate hordes of cruisers-that-shoot-like-dreadnaughts and then sing the Curbstomp Song as it schools the whole Citadel fleet - there just isn't enough element zero. The shortage combined with the difficulty of getting agents across the boarder covertly, you have a situation where very small numbers of individuals are setting out against long odds despite their potentially massive individual superiority.

I think this is a useful setup because it gives the Alliance a reason to be engaged in shadowy covert activity and prevents transhuman dominance over the Citadel species on a macro-level while allowing the PCs to be ridiculously awesome on a micro-level.

>>8479543

Kinda sorta. The important thing to remember about a Reaper morph is that while it does have four legs, four guns and a disk like main body - it's also made largely with 'smart materials'. It can reshape and extrude its extremities at will. I imagine that while cruising it looks more like a flying saucer. While in combat I figure it looks alot like a UFO doing it's best Hindu god impression - limbs everywhere!

>>8480358
i see your points, but i think part of the interstingness of the setting is the absolute difference of technology between them, as such, I don't think they should have any access to Element Zero or technology that uses it, aside from what they steal or develop themselves.

which may really be an issue of when on the timeline you want to run a game.

>>8480233
Did I said "I"?
I should have said "we", because I'm a terrible writefag.

>>8480448

Well, I think the issue is that in order to have had a first contact they had to leave through the relay which requires an element zero drive. Plus, I'm a fan of the original Contagionist writefaggotry which resulted in the Alliance getting their hands on frontline turian mass effect technology.

I see what you're saying though, and that's part of why I think making the Alliance element zero poor makes sense - if they're forced to be really frugal you're likely to have a situation where the impact is minimized. Most of it goes into starship construction for defense purposes, the rest is carefully doled out to special operations units (like the PCs) and heavy frontline combat units. Having access to shields and mass accelerator guns will allow the PCs to compete, but to succeed in Citadel space they'll need to leverage every wierd transhuman advantage they can. I think it'll serve to emphasize the contrasts rather than blurring them under shared technology.

Dammit, for a moment I thought the writefag had updated, and this was a new topic ;_;

>>8480358
Personally I don't think we should get rid of the Pandora Gates.

They represent the ultimate ticket out of the Galaxy in case the shit hits the fan and people needs to evacuate.

You can balance it this way. they don't lead you anywhere near a Mass Relay, and sometimes is a one way portal only, using it is risky(at best), most of the planets accesible rarely have element zero in it (probably already picked up by the TITANS).
They probably only get them to work more as planned later on, after intense reverse engineering (and by intense, I mean INTENSE)

PS: I don't care what anyone says, for me, this is Transhepard

>>8480718
There will only be a new topic if this thread enter autosage AND the writefag shows up.

He really knows what he's doing by not namefagging, although I still don't understand why he sages every post.

Besides, the new post limit is 250 and we should take full advantage of that.

And I just found it. I think this is the picture that comes to the mind of every Turian when they hear the word "Transhuman".

>>8480358
You know, I was going to say that.

Its actually a clever idea, and it shows that the council MAY still save themselves from impeding doom.

Now.. if they could only get rid of Councilor McFingerquotes.

>>8480819

That makes sense to me, the Pandora gates remain strange and mysterious and a great source of interesting scientific information - but at the same time are something of a non-factor in the overall galactic power balance.

Being small they're hard to move large quantities of material through, and being unreliable setting up a colony on the farside is a risky venture unless you don't mind it potentially being a one-way trip.

As for the gates never opening to areas serviced by the relay network - I think that's a good general rule. It keeps the gates from being convenient backdoor access, while naturally leading to the ominous question: "Why? Did the TITANs program them that way? What do they know about the relays that we don't? *puts on tinfoil hat*" For the sake of fun and games though, I suggest that the gates should infrequently open up near a relay, if only to allow for the PCs to make an infiltration run through the gate in their snazzy mini-spaceship packed with more exciting hardware then they'd normally be able to take along.

>>8480949

Somewhere in a turian theater the intro to a movie is playing. Audiences watch in horrified silence while the image of that robot strides forward over ground carpeted in turian skulls while firing comically oversized plasma blasts. It's eyes glow while it's head scans back and forth like a turret in eerie silence.

*Space-music version of the Terminator theme plays*

>>8481785
lol

>>8481785
Jackass Transhuman sneaks into Turian theater, puts on Terminator 2 footage.

>>8481785
http://t3rm1n8t0r.com/audio/cyanotic_-_terminator_theme_%5Bglitch_mode_mix%5D.mp3

bump

>>8479543
>>8480439
This is a Reaper morph, from page 358 of the core book. It's disk shaped so it presents the slimmest profile when it directly engages it's targets.

Sup /mass effect/. Any of you mass effects played mass effect?

>>8485817
Sup /Eclipse Phase/ any of you Eclipse Phase played any Eclipse Phase yet?

Sup /touhou games/

It strikes me that the search for a substitute of Eezo is going to be in place.
>>8482818
>>8481665
>>8480645
>"I am commmander Transhepard and these are my favorite balance theory in the whole thread."

JESUS DICKS THIS IS STILL HERE AGGGHHHHH

YES!
I love these threads.

I hope it's archived so I can read later

>>8485757
I thought it would be more slick, more along the line of the ship from Flight of the Navigator
but with guns.
Pic related

YOU TRANSHUMANS ARE A BLIGHT

>>8489855
Writefags... where are the writefags?!

bump

At some point the Citadel races will have no other choice than to adapt to the circumstances and attempt to break the vicious Galactic Cycle of extinction.

I still like the Idea of the Exurgent Virus being a Prothean last ditch effort to create a civilization that surpasses singularity.

If the Exurgent virus is an ETI measure to stop civilizations from growing up too soon, then maybe the Protheans found out about it and that's what triggered the Cycle of destruction, the Protheans escaped an left almost everything on mars. Earth was saved only because the Mars Lab records where purged (as some other labs out there might have been).

By the time the Exurgent Virus was activated again and Sovereign sent the signal, the TITANS freaked out and left the Galaxy (probably they wheren't strong enough to defeat the Reapers just yet). But nothing happened because the Keepers had evolved in such a way that they would only awaken the Citadel true purpose by a signal sent directly from the Citadel itself.

The rest plays out the same way as in mass effect or rather in the same way as the EP/ME universe.

Another goddamn shit thread to scroll past

>>8490134
HOLY SHIT! FLIGHT OF THE NAVIGATOR!

nrrr 6 hours or so

>>8492172
>lolwut.7z

Picture BAMPO!

>>8492041

Not sure if I'm understanding you. You suggesting that the Exurgent Virus acts like an early warning system for Reapers? Sort of a "You must be at least this intelligent" filter?

(Begin random brainstorming)

You find whatever vector the virus is using and study it, if you're sufficiently intelligent to be a threat you figure out how to 'open' it. Once that happens it sends out a signal to the 'on-duty' Reaper while launching a massive mental attack on the opener. Perhaps the TITANs are an aberration? The intention is to co-opt and then destroy the entity making contact with the virus - but thanks to the radically adaptive nature of a seed AI the TITANs succeeded in incorporating it into themselves? I'm thinking of a software parallel of primordial cells capturing mitochondria and making them a part of themselves. The resulting beings aren't TITANs or Exsurgent attack forms but something strange and novel.

In that case the Fall is more the confused and contradictory flailings of a new being then an all-out offensive against transhumanity. Perhaps it ends the way it does due to the TITANs finally getting control over their new selves, realizing the magnitude of the Reaper threat and then deciding to jet out of town - preserving as many transhuman mind-states as they can along the way.

(/end brainstorming)

On another note! I'm still pondering the rules of a ME/EP crossover. Regarding shields, does anyone have ideas on how to make them more interesting than "A extra pool of regenerating hitpoints" ? I'm looking for ways for the players to have meaningful tactical choices regarding how they use their shields

>>8493753
there are plenty of attacks that bypass shields...

other than that, the very definition of energy shield is a separate set of regenerating hitpoints.

I'm gonna post this great story that was posted in the other thread for anyone who missed it

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5639538/1/Accidental_Hero_of_the_Galaxy

it's a good way to fill the void between the EP/ME updates

http://www.eclipsephase.com/ep-and-mass-effect

>>8493753
That is one way to look at it, but what if the virus turned the TITANs into a tool for the collectors or into a replacement for them?
That way we can still have the Human Reaper embryo.

The TITANS as a tool for the Collectors?

hahaha.
NO

Showcased on the Left.
Collectors

on the Right. Xepard team

on the bottom. that shepard fanboy.

>>8496777

Transhepard: YOUR FORM IS FRAGILE

*Falcon Punches Harbingers head in*

It's become clear to me that at some point a Collector swarm must encounter a platoon of combat synths operated by Shepard and a host of his beta-level forks. They will merrily ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL of their various bodies until you're left with a half-dismembered synth pounding the last Collector into paste.

Most importantly, the volume amplified one-liners will *never stop* until both sides are dead.

ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL BUMP

>>8496944
DRAWFAGIT!

this thread requires drawfaggotry.

Where is that guy anyway? he's usually lurking around this hour

FUCK I meant writefaggotry.

>>8498943 will drawfaggotry suffice?

Drawfag THIS >>8460655 then well talk.

>>8499282
forgot to say that I fuckin lol'd.

>>8499282

Haha, that's good. What you don't see in that picture however is the Ghost morphs with the monowire garrotes sneaking up behind both turians (with their very best rape-faces on of course).

I can just see it.

Turian #1: What the fuck is that?
Turian #2: Those are humans sir!
Turian #2: *wet tearing sound, head falls off*
Turian #1: Bollocks. *also gets garroted*

OP here, last bump of before going to sleep.

>>8499368
By your command

This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

>>8500727
this attack only works when you have the consensus of the majority of anonymous.

Quick thought, no idea if anyone is still here/not entirely exhausted with this thread:

Would the council let anyone go INTO the Zone? I can imagine krogan warlords going on smuggling runs to get access to fabled Sol and its wondrous tech in hopes of finally raising progeny. Or stealing some of those weapons the TITANs left on Earth. Or hell, getting some femme krogan pleasure pods.

How far into the mass relay network are TH anway?

>>8503644
There's a fleet at every Mass relay connecting to the TEZ.

Many have tried

Few have survived

even less have susceeded.

Of those who did, none could get out so far, because salarian intelligence.

>>8504559
Salarian STG groups just hiding in space ship vents cutting throats?

>>8504559
Hmm... That would make Pandora gates even more important for Transhuman interests.

Would the Citadel know about them? I'm sure if they found out, they'd put out a standing "Destroy on sight" order for those things.

>>8504598
Not knowing much about Pandora gates or whatever...

Why would they destroy them? They'd be another element to use against the possibility of the transhumans acting up.

Also, I'm getting the idea that the turians probably are the most pissed off and ready to go 'oorah fight of the Council races. Salarians might understand the threat and attempt to curtail too much going crazy town, but the turians probably want to see humans victim to another genophage kind of super weapon.

Asari are all "la dee da we are mystical faaaaaaaaiiiiirrrrrriiiiiieeeeesssssss" or whatever the asari are always doing.

>>8504564
More like on the outside, knowing when people are trying to enter.

This could lead to the Turians leaving some of them enter on purpose, just so they can't spread the rumor that noone can leave TEZ because they are trapped there and submitted to freaky experiments.

In truth, most of the smugglers encounter the Anarchists that give them exactly what they want sometimes free of charge. But they can't leave the system and they are forced to live on the TEZ.

>>8500707
nice, but now you are forcing me to edit that just to have the Asari head nyoro-n at the end.

>>8504910
Just so they CAN spread the rumor.

>oh look a new eclipse phase/mass effect thread
>oh shit it's still the old one

never die :3

This is the thread that never ends
It goes on and on my friends
Some people started posting it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue posting forever just because
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It goes on and on my friends
Some people started posting it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue posting forever just because
This is the thread that never ends
It goes on and on my friends
Some people started posting it not knowing what it was
This is the thread that never ends
It goes on and on my friends
Some people started posting it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue posting forever just because
This is the thread that never ends
It goes on and on my friends
Some people started posting it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue posting forever just because
This is the thread that never ends
It goes on and on my friends
Some people started posting it not knowing what it was

This thread... God damn it. I can't do it tomorrow either. Shitfuck.

>>8505024
New auto-sage parameters rule.

>>8505142
OP here, I'm willing to let the thread die. if only because the writefags haven't showed up and I'm not willing to commit the same mistake I did on the first part VI thread where I posted my own writefaggotry.

There are still many posts to go before autosage (300 is the new limit)

OP here.

Its going to be really hilarious if Transhumanity ships are really that good for their size.

You end up with a small fighter taking down a Geth fleet until someone realizes.

"HOLY FUCKING SHIT!, DID WE JUST INVENTED IRL GRADIUS/IKARUGA/JETS'n'GUNS/RYNEX(Thunder Force) "

One thing that people forgot to point out.

Because of Transhepard Legion becomes Romanceable.

You can now proceed with that mental image burned into your brains.