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    62 KB Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)21:45 No.8480716  
    Hey there /tg/.

    As some of you may know, I am currently working on the second version of 'Adeptus Evangelion'. Adeptus Evangelion (AdEva for short) is a Dark Heresy modification designed to run games in the world of Evangelion.

    Those interested may find the original version here:
    Though with any luck at all, that version will be obsolete as soon as possible.

    Anyway, back to the point: The mechanical changes for version 2 are either done or mostly done and currently being playtested under various conditions. I have no intention of releasing an AdEva version 3, and I want V2 to be as perfect as I can reasonably make it.

    To that end, I want to make the PDF itself more professional.

    And that, /tg/, is where I hope you come in...
    [continued in next post]
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)21:49 No.8480800
    In short, /tg/, I would like to pad out the second AdEva release version with some small pieces of Adeptus Evangelion original content. Small fluff pieces, quotes and artwork. You know, the sort of thing that helps bring an RPG book to life.

    While I have some of this coming in already from the current development team, I figured I would give /tg/ a chance to share anything you are willing to contribute as well.

    If you do, it wouldn't be unreasonable for me to give you an honorable mention of the credits page (if you should wish such a thing).

    As always, I would be glad to take any questions, comments or suggestions about the second version or AdEva in general.

    Thank you for your time, /tg/.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)21:51 No.8480836
    I hope you're quoting like a motherfucker from Shinji 40K.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)21:52 No.8480848
    Well, keep in mind that it isn't Eva+40k (at least baseline) as it is Eva ran in DH.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)21:54 No.8480868
    Yes, great symmetrical poster. It is as you say.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/08/10(Mon)21:54 No.8480873
    How do you want it? I'm not too familiar with Evangelion itself; do you want us to make original fiction, or tie things in with the canon characters?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)21:55 No.8480886
    did you work out a way to create custom angels or did you just want to stick with the ones given in the anime? Some angels more than others sound harder to create. I'll admit I basically know nothing about DH
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/08/10(Mon)21:55 No.8480890

    Everything in it so far is original fiction. The fewer canon characters used, the better.
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 03/08/10(Mon)21:56 No.8480902
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    I don't know if that really counted, but I'll take...


    What I can get.

    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)21:57 No.8480914

    This anon speaks the truth. while I will freely admit that S&40k is what got me started on this path, it is by no means its end. Though, a GM certainly could run such a game if they chose with not too much extra effort.

    While I could include quotes from S&40k, I would require Charles Bhephin's permission. And I'm not sure what quotes would even really be appropriate. All of the best quotes from S&40k would seem epic, but out of place.

    Still, not a bad idea.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)21:58 No.8480927
    Ah yes "angels," the council has already discarded those claims-JSDDF General, three days before Third Angel attack
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/08/10(Mon)22:01 No.8480981
    Okay, good. Like I said, i'm not too familiar with Eva, so most of the 'canon science' will be pulled from Wikipedia. If anything, I'd probably make some kind of fish-out-of-water thing.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)22:01 No.8480999

    There is a custom Angel generator (which is currently getting a massive overhaul) as well as listed stats for all 'Canon' angels as well as the Jet Alone and the Mass Produced Evangelions.


    Original characters preferred. Also keep in mind that the shorter it is, the more likely that we will be able to include it in its entirety.
    We arn't at a premium for space, exactly, but anything that's 5 pages long will seem like a massive digression.
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 03/08/10(Mon)22:02 No.8481001
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    Don't worry. There's no science in Eva, just metaphors!
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:02 No.8481013
    How about dont do this. Evangelion is garbage.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/08/10(Mon)22:04 No.8481032
    Hence this attempt to fix it.

    But yes, Eva isn't as top-tier as most people make it out to be. RahXephon's a damned sight better.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)22:05 No.8481055

    Too late to stop now! Sorry.

    Though if it appeases you in any way, Adeptus Evangelion makes any pseudo-psychological wank purely optional. And you don't have to be a whiny bitch unless you want to.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:06 No.8481068
    Good to know. otherwise if you use the cannon ones all the time inexperienced players will try to use outside character knowledge on how to beat them. plus it's more fun to take down a new angel.

    how did you do the bio virus out of curiosity?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:08 No.8481098
    I couldn't make it through the series. Loved Pluralitas Concentio though.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:09 No.8481117

    You've wasted your time, man.

    Just imagine, OP, you could have made a Mobile Suit Gundam game, a fantastic series that is more in keeping with the universe presented in 40k.

    Instead, you chose wankery.

    I hope you feel ashamed.
    >> Sachiel 03/08/10(Mon)22:09 No.8481124
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    Canon Angels were here.

    Custom angels are losers.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:10 No.8481149
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    Keep up the great work BMJ, despite the trolls.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/08/10(Mon)22:11 No.8481153

    When trolling, it is customary to use statements that are either truth, or that could be confused for the truth.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:11 No.8481163
    You need fiction and such for /every/ section?
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 03/08/10(Mon)22:12 No.8481175
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    For a second, I thought Zeruel had an uboa face there.

    Also, OBJECTION!
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/08/10(Mon)22:12 No.8481187

    Not all of them. I've done things for most sections, and I think there's something for every page that doesn't consist solely of stats. There's much more room for short comments, quotes, or points than long spiels.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:13 No.8481197
    So you'd rather be playing Gothic Suit Gundam?

    That sounds fun.

    Why don't you get on that incited of shitting all over someone else's hard work. 'Cuz I don't see you adding much more than bitching right now.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)22:14 No.8481217

    To address your first point, each Canon Angel has a whole half page or so dedicated to how this Angel might be modified with a key enhancement or two, just to throw any players who plan on using the series to their advantage for a loop.

    Ramiel bending light and shifting his image 20 meters to the left was kinda mean, but a good example suggestion.

    as for the 'bio virus' (by which I assume you mean Iruel, who infected the Magi at one point), I didn't give Iruel stats. Because Iruel is not an Angel that can be fought with an Evangelion. It simply doesn't work.

    In fact, you might remember that the pilots themselves were more or less written out of that episode fairly early on.

    Obviously, such a thing would be massively unsatisfying for players, having the NPCs solve all of their problems for them off screen.

    So, while any GM may feel free to run their own Iruel encounter in some form, AdEva politely recommends that you replace Iruel with a randomly generated Angel of some kind. Though, the GM can certainly make that Angel some sort of virus-creature as well. Just something the Eva's can actually shoot at.

    Leliel (the big black extradimensional space) was similarly difficult to stat, because both Leliel and Iruel were defeated by plot beyond the Pilots ability to influence.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:17 No.8481263
    I can do quotes. I'll just need an e-mail to corespond with, if you don't want to do things here.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:18 No.8481282
    "You'll note of course that whilst I have described the inverse helical path of scattering in terms of x y and z vectors, several of these are in fact relative to directionality of observation, this effect is merely being simulated. It can be categorically observed, and studied, and it actually occurs, but its just illusion, it doesn't actually happen like this"

    Mad scientist describing a Dirac Sea
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/08/10(Mon)22:18 No.8481287

    Go to Rizon.

    Pick a name.

    Join #AdeptusEvangelion.
    >> Internet Black Knight 03/08/10(Mon)22:19 No.8481306
    wouldn't that kind of angel encounter be good for the PC's who aren't Eva Pilots?
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)22:19 No.8481309

    If I can scrape such a thing together, that would be awesome. There is no extra fluff included right now (though there is a whole section describing the setting).

    While I currently have a fair amount of artwork, most of it is screencaps or official art from other sources. Obviously, some parts of Adeptus Evangelion simply have no corresponding picture. Hence the need for new material.

    Why, what did you have in mind?
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 03/08/10(Mon)22:20 No.8481329
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    Usually, there's only one non-pilot PC, unless people are really getting into the damage control step (which is frequently skipped due to time and hassle).
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:20 No.8481345

    Like I'm going to take the opinion of a poster who can't even spell.

    Besides, you must admit that Mobile Suit Gundam fits the world of Dark Heresy far better than Evangelion.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/08/10(Mon)22:21 No.8481350

    Not really. The only PC nonpilot is the Operation Director, who plays an important part in most battles and the lead role in namy.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:22 No.8481375
    Ah ok. I didn't know it was named Iruel.

    I was thinking it could be somewhat watered down to be an infection to take over one Eva unit or several smaller units (i.e. an army of tanks that get into NERV HQ)

    It also could be used as some kind of template for an 'infected' angel. basically Evas take down simple angel then Iruel takes over as a host and fights them that way.

    Yes it's not fighting the true Iruel but like you pointed out it was just plain unfair.
    >> Internet Black Knight 03/08/10(Mon)22:25 No.8481436
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    if you're looking for artwork do you have this? it's got some of the original sketches for the series and other cool shit.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)22:26 No.8481453

    Maybe so. But despite the existence of S&40k, I didn't choose the Dark Heresy system because it was 40k. I choose it because it had a built in Insanity system and a brutal combat system, both of which I thought were vital to the success of the game.

    That it was 40k was entirely coincidental.

    If you are feeling up to the task, re-converting Adeptus Evangelion to handle traditional mecha would simply require the removal of AT Fields, the Ego Barrier mechanic, and some new career paths and upgrades/weapons. And the Angels have to go, of course.

    Most everything else is fluff!
    >> Sachiel 03/08/10(Mon)22:26 No.8481457
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    While an encounter that does not require actual Evangelion combat could lead to an interesting scenario, it will likely be resolved by the actions of just one of the players.

    Now if you can give the pilots something to do while the other player is managing the Angel, that is something I completely endorse.


    There are plenty of options for Encroachment type Angels in the works to enable them possession of Evangelions, would that suffice?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:28 No.8481483
    "Bunch of losers. I do all the hard work, take all the hits, while they go and get all the glory. Being the tank sucks."
    -unidentified Pointman pilot

    Clearly for usage in the Pointman section.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)22:29 No.8481502

    Looks pretty.

    I don't THINK I have it, but it is entirely possible that individual images that I have/used came from it without my knowledge.

    While I will certainly look into it, I feel like I have taken enough from gainax. Even giving them proper credit, I feel that I should make an effort to acquire non-gainax artwork a bit more.

    Thanks for the heads up, though!
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:30 No.8481518
    Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. I just remembered that I have that.

    Brb: skimming
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:31 No.8481544
    Flattered but I have to pass. I really know nothing about the DH system so I'd have to learn that first before even trying to make the Iruel infection. If you want to use the idea go ahead I won't mind.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/08/10(Mon)22:33 No.8481573
    Better still, SCAN IT :D
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:35 No.8481620
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    For fun.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:36 No.8481639
    that would be interesting to surprise your players at least. I just made the idea on the fly. it seems you got a better idea.
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 03/08/10(Mon)22:39 No.8481700
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    Here's the channel group.

    Clockwise from top left: Manufactured Skirmisher, Prodigy Berserker, OD, Neo-Spartan ATT, Prodigy Skirmisher, Neo-Spartan Pointman
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:40 No.8481732
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    >> Internet Black Knight 03/08/10(Mon)22:41 No.8481747
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    found a torrent for it. checking it out now. will post if it's legit.
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 03/08/10(Mon)22:41 No.8481756
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    I didn't make the faces.

    We just don't have actual pictures of all the characters yet, just three.
    >> Sachiel 03/08/10(Mon)22:48 No.8481886
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    All the characters in that game are essentially little girls anyway.
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 03/08/10(Mon)22:52 No.8481957
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    I was about to argue, but you're right.

    We are little girls.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)22:56 No.8482046

    Nuh-uh. Vlad is a buffet of manliness. Even if he is shorter than Napoleon siting down.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)22:58 No.8482090
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    I humbly submit, Asuka.
    >> WRITEFAGGOTRY Alebak !!GutpvEm2fJX 03/08/10(Mon)23:02 No.8482150
    There are times when you forget about it all, you know? Not for long of course, its hard to forget watching giant God damned robots fight...THINGS, while you run your ass down to the nearest shelter. But I mean, for when your just walking down the street, things seem the same. There are signs up to tell people where to go during an attack, but they look the same as the ones that tell people where to go during a flood. There are more uniformed soldiers on the streets yeah, but in a big city like this they still blend into the crowd. "They're probably on leave" you think. But the one thing that always brings you back to reality when you see 'em, are the sirens.

    You ever see those old world war 2 movies, when the Japs or the Nazis do an air raid and some guy starts cranking that crazy looking alarm and it kinda surprises you, how loud it is?

    When there's an attack, imagine that, times a thousand. They got every kind of siren hooked up to the system. Those very same air raid alarms uptown, antiques by now I image, tornado sirens in the 'burbs, and megaphones on damn near every street corner. When they go, they ALL go. And when you here them go, you drop everything and go.

    And I mean EVERYTHING.
    >> Alebak !!GutpvEm2fJX 03/08/10(Mon)23:03 No.8482161
    First time I heard it go off, I was taking my lunch break in the park. It was a nice day, you remember right? Sunny, kinda breezy, good day to take the kids out and about. I saw a guy playing with his two kids, some old lady feeding pigeons, very "Rockwell", you know? Then the alert started, all the sound coming in at once. Pre-recorded voices telling people to calmly move to a safe place, sirens winding up from a dead start to a full wail.

    Everyone around me hauled ass, I saw that same dad from earlier running full tilt, one kid in each arm. I saw one woman yelling at friend of her's over the sound, "WHERE'S YOUR BROTHER?! HE WAS JUST HERE!", I saw another kid, just sitting there crying, everyone ignoring him as they ran past him. I saw some teenager on a cellphone, finger plugged in the other ear, telling whoever he was talking to forget him and hide in the basement.

    When I made it to the street, I also got plowed down by a truck that was driving on the sidewalk. There was a shelter down the block on the corner, with yellow emergency lights flashing. Those megaphone's still telling people to proceed calmly and with caution (Painfully loud that close), which seemed fairly ridiculous, considering that people were sprinting in every direction, some to the shelters, some trying to get home.

    Then this huge shadow passes over the street. It was one of those Evas, doing full out super strides down main street. It just jumped clean over the whole crowd, crushed a parked car down the blocked, turned at the intersection and disappeared from sight behind some sky scrapers. That just agitated the crowd even worse. I didnt wait around, I just forced my way through the crowd to the shelter, some cold war relic that looked like it was recently renovated. I waited there for the all clear.

    My ears rang for hours after it was over, it was so loud. Those sirens, they'll never let you forget. I suppose that's their job.
    >> Alebak !!GutpvEm2fJX 03/08/10(Mon)23:05 No.8482209
    There you go, civilian level "OH FUCK ANGEL ATTACK", under the guise of talking about how on some days, you can forget that you might be killed by 'holygodwhattheshit'
    >> Sachiel 03/08/10(Mon)23:06 No.8482215
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    My apologies, I failed to notice this post sooner, but here is a direct download link:

    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 03/08/10(Mon)23:08 No.8482249
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    Well done.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)23:08 No.8482253
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    I LIKE.

    Consider that freaken saved.

    drop by the Rizon channel to give me whatever secret name you want to be credited as, unless you want to remain secret.
    >> Alebak !!GutpvEm2fJX 03/08/10(Mon)23:12 No.8482302
    Just use "Alebak", I use it for everything I writefag on here.
    >> Sachiel 03/08/10(Mon)23:13 No.8482325
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    Nice! I can easily see this poor individual, whomever he is, retelling this over and over, as if his cool tone would convince anyone that a giant Alien invading a city wasn't a complete nightmare come true.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:14 No.8482346
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    Did someone say Asuka?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:16 No.8482384
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    >> Alebak !!GutpvEm2fJX 03/08/10(Mon)23:17 No.8482402
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    >I also got plowed down by a truck
    >I also got plowed down


    BMJ, for my sanity, please fix that in the PDF.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:18 No.8482416
    HOLY SHIT that things HUGE

    I will shoot at it with my laser!
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)23:21 No.8482471
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    Also, in honor of the template provided by >>8481620

    BEST PARTY EVER. Prove me wrong.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:25 No.8482532

    As a neutral third party observer, might I suggest also including the tripcodes in whatever credits bit you put in the pdf? A name is a name, but I notice Alebak has a secure tripcode, which is a part of his identity that is far harder to steal..

    [spoilersdon'tworkon/tg/] But then, I guess I'm just paranoid like that [/spoilersdon'tworkon/tg/]
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)23:28 No.8482600

    I'm sure we can find a place for it somewhere in the Evangelion chapter.

    Thanks for your contribution.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:29 No.8482613
    "The left arm nerve regulator again?! Argh! If that dumbass kid busts that unit one more time I'll tan his hide myself! Alright, get the armor off, I'll be along. Need some more coffee before I start digging into that thing's guts again..."
    -Chief Mechanic, Unit 17 Support Crew

    In case there happens to be a section about maintenance or support crews.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/08/10(Mon)23:32 No.8482671
    You know, I pity those poor kids up in the EVAs. Used to work on the inside myself, saw a lot of kids come all all scarred and shit, and not just on the outside either- hell, those are the lucky ones. Sure, there's some that come out of the tubes still the same happy bastards they were going in, but you can't break what's already broken, get me? That said, I'll thank you kindly not to mention any of that- eh? What's that?

    No, no, bad choice of words, sorry. When I said 'on the inside', I meant as a guard, not a pilot. Didn't qualify, wouldn't want to. Nah, I'm pretty much happy being up here, doing regular police work. 'Cos it ain't 'regular'-regular, you know, being a cop in a city targeted by Angels. Yeah, sure, I know I could die any time those giant sonsabitches comes along, but any job that requires you to hold a gun's dangerous by default, and as a god-fearin' man, I have full confidence that when my time's up, I'll be marching up to the Pearly Gates and tellin' everyone in earshot that I didn't die some bitch death, I got my ass killed by a fuckin' Angel.

    Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah- see, most people who ain't from these parts- exam-ply gotcha, someone like YOU- think that the EVA pilots get all the glory, that we gropos get the wrong end of a shitty stick. Thing is, that's what most civvies think too, hah! See, kiddo, what with all the media talking about the EVA pilots, and how everything from TV shows to goddamn pencils have licensed konockoff NERV shit to hock to tourists, every civilian with more than two brain cells gets to thinkin' "Oh, those poor boys in green! Ain't fair, them kids gettin' all the attention while honest Joes like them have to do the cleanup!" And it starts gettin' out- thing about word of mouth is that with EVAs around, people like us don't need a lot of words to get plenty of mouth, get me?
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/08/10(Mon)23:33 No.8482685
    Look kid, I ain't gonna lie to you. It CAN be a shitty job- fuck, it IS a shitty job, on the surface of it. When an Angel attacks, it fucks things up. Collateral damage don't just apply to homes getting wrecked and civvies getting killed in the firefight, you know? Guy loses his home and family, he starts thinking that he better start giving as good as he got, and goes crazy with the handgun he bought with his last cash. Grandma gets pushed out of a car near a fight so the family can claim insurance. Shit, I'm old enough to remember how the world was like before Second Impact; if the Angels had waited a decade or so, we'd have nuked ourselves to hell and gone!

    Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah, the job. Yeah, it can get pretty fucked at times, but at least we've got perks. Plenty of pretty civvies get all flustered when they see us comin' up, and it's easy to take advantage of that, believe you me! And then you've got all these pretty reporters, trying to make it big the easy way by running smear jobs on EVA pilots, all comin' up with small skirts and hughe checkbooks, trying to get an 'exclusive interview'... it ain't a perfect world, kid, not in general. Best thing we can do is make it perfect for ourselves, and maybe our pals.

    Ayup. Best thing we can do.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:34 No.8482695
    "The Angels are our destruction.... It's time for us to accept it. We can't struggle any longer. The Evas can't help us. All they are doing is prolonging our death." - Commander Martell
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/08/10(Mon)23:35 No.8482711
    Hokay, there we go. Not too happy with it, mind you; I think I'll work on something else when I have the time.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:38 No.8482767
    To the common masses our struggle is a fight, a war. A battle fought with sinew and muscle, with bullet, blade, and bomb, with tank and warship.
    To those of us high enough realize this is a conflict of will! A struggle of metaphysical dimension. The future of Mankind is our battleground.
    The very existence of the human race is the prize for victory. Our morality is the sacrifice we make to win that victory.

    Gendo?Seale? I dont even know but I like it
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)23:39 No.8482776
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    Cant say I would know where to put the whole thing, but even so I can see a couple of really good lines that would make some great quotes to throw in. thanks alot!


    That is totally going into "Third Impact and You". thanks!
    >> Sachiel 03/08/10(Mon)23:39 No.8482785
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    You, my good Sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:39 No.8482787
    No problem.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:40 No.8482810
    This Commander Martell sounds like a depressed traitor.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:43 No.8482861
    Your home is no longer a place, but a people. Humanity is you, and you are Humanity, I hope your ready to die for it.

    Commander Aguire to new recruits
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/08/10(Mon)23:46 No.8482915
    To tell the truth, I pretty much intended for it to me somewhat generic, so that you could put it anywhere. Also because I thought everyone and their uncle would write for the 'pilots' section. Oh well, guess I'll try my hand at that.

    Thanks man.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)23:47 No.8482947

    Actually, if you all don't mind I think I might make
    be from Commander Martel at some public event before the Angels arrive (or maybe after the first attack).

    Depressed Martel would come much later, and be from a personal log or journal of some kind.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/08/10(Mon)23:49 No.8482970
    "Recruit Hong! Did you just try to force your Evangelion unit to go Berserker, or are you just incompetent?"

    "No, sir, I just couldn't-"

    "You lost control, Recruit Hong?"

    "Sir! Yes, sir!"

    "Recruit Hong! How many weapons in the United States' armed forces are capable of killing an Evangelion unit?"

    "Sir, I-"


    "Uh... none, sir?"

    "NONE! With the exception of the Evangelion itself, we possess exactly ZERO weapons capable of harming an Evangelion unit! Do you know what this means, Recruit Hong?"

    "It, uh, means..."

    "It means, Recruit Hong, that if that thing goes Berserker there is NOT A GODDAMNED THING WE CAN DO TO STOP IT! The single most powerful weapon ever made will be stomping around our backyard, destroying the most crucial military asset in the United States, and there will be NOTHING we can do about! And that is the best case scenario! What are we supposed to do if an Angel attacks while your Evangelion is killing our men?"

    "I, uh, don't know-"

    "WE'RE GOING TO GODDAMNED START PRAYING, BECAUSE THERE WILL NOT BE ANOTHER GODDAMNED THING WE CAN DO! While your Berserker Evangelion is slaughtering our nation's finest, the Angel will be STARTING THIRD IMPACT! It will wipe out the goddamned human race! Everybody you have ever known will be killed, and it will be YOUR GODDAMNED FAULT! Do you want to destroy humanity, Recruit Hong?"

    "No, sir, I-"


    "No, sir!"


    "Sir! Yes, sir!"

    "Now we're going to run the simulation again, and this time we will keep running it until you get it right!"
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:49 No.8482985
    "Punishment from God? Not really. This is just his way of saying 'You guys need to shape up'. I'd hate to see what he'd do if he got angry!" - Unnamed recruit
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:50 No.8482996
    Sounds good.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/08/10(Mon)23:50 No.8483007
    Incident Report - form AC 573

    Subject: Synthetic Prototype reference UTNAPISHTIM (abbrev: Tim)

    At approximately 1730 hrs two days previously, subject was permitted direct contact with conventional pilots HONG and ZANE as per protocol 442. Subject appeared to have responded well to social preformatting, engaging in simple conversation without excessive difficulty. When conversation turned to preferred forms of entertainment, preprogrammed reponses failed. At this time, a contrived security alert terminated the conversation without causing suspicion. Subject displayed no immediate response to failure of preformate dresponse, and retired to individual quarters for templated rest period.

    At 2015 hrs, subject broke templated schedule, exited individual quarters, and proceeded to pilot 'break room'. Once there, subject turned on provided television, and began to watch unedited programming. Guards on duty were not those privy to nature of subject, and did not subsequently recover situation. Subject continued watching television until I because aware of this turn of events, at which point I immediately notified our agents. When the television was turned off subject reacted hysterically such that sedation was required. This took place today at 1448 hrs.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)23:51 No.8483016
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    A brilliant piece of meta considering the common tactics used in the game.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/08/10(Mon)23:51 No.8483024
    Surveillance records indicate during this entire timeframe, being 33 hours in duration, subject did not cease watching the television. Subject took in no food or water during this time, and did not alter position significantly. A forced hydration regime has begun to remedy this temporary shortfall.

    Clearly, exposure to entertainment media is dangerous to subject. I recommend the immediate removal of all entertainment devices, personal and collective, from the facility. Alternatively, I propose that command acknowledge the validity of my earlier comments that this is a military facility attempting to engineer a weapons control system and not a daycare centre producing yet more worthless civilians to feed.

    Director of Research Dr. Sama Chandrahan
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/08/10(Mon)23:54 No.8483081
    "Third impact, and the melting of very nearly the entire continent of Antarctica, was the single most catastrophic event in human history. Within a week, the disaster had killed one billion people, and flooded most of the worlds arable land. Within a year, another billion had starved to death, praying for an intervention that never came. Another billion lives were lost when the Remnant Governments realised the floodwaters would never recede, and fought long and bitterly over the few patches of barely-arable land left. When the U.N. finally took control, nobody cared it had long abandoned its original mission, or that is was kept in power by oppressive force, for mankind's soul had been purified by the near-apocalypse. No more would we hold ourselves apart in appeasement of tired lines of race, politics, ideology, or religion. For the first time in human history, we were united by the common goal of survival. No matter who they were, or how they survived, everyone alive who remembers the days of Second Impact shares one goal:

    Never again."

    OpsO Hertz
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/08/10(Mon)23:57 No.8483138

    Manufactured intro? Interesting...


    Oh, recruit Hong!


    But seriously, great work.


    I believe you mean SECOND Impact in that first line. Otherwise good.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/08/10(Mon)23:57 No.8483147
    )-ntamination procedures complete. Testing resumed with additional six subjects.

    Test 3-4-74: Exposure to high elevated temperature continuing. Mild pain response triggered in subject. Momentary synchronisation spike, followed by minor enduring fall.

    Test 3-4-75: Exposure to high elevated temperature continuing. Intense pain response triggered in subject. Significant momentary synchronisation spike, spike duration doubled. Enduring fall delayed and weaker.

    Test 3-4-76: Exposure to high elevated temperature continuing. Extreme pain response triggered in subject. Very significant spike duration 4.24 seconds, fall to prior levels delayed, no enduring fall. Results promising. Authority issued by Dr Chandrahan to accelerate testing.

    Test 3-5-1: Mild continuous pain response triggered in subject. Ten seconds pass. Pain response amplified to notional maximum. No unusual results in sychronisation. Error in Test Frame encoding; indications of motor response. Response not possible, power not supplied to bindings. Sensor failue noted.

    Test 3-5-2: Intense continuous pain response triggered in subject. Ten seconds pass. Synchronisation suppressed. Notional maximum pain response triggered. Spike occurs in synchronisation. Failure of microphones in test frame chamber. Overhaul of sensor equipment recommended. Testing continued under Dr Chadrahan's authority.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/08/10(Mon)23:58 No.8483166
    Test 3-5-3: Extreme continuous pain response tirggered in target. Synchronisation collapse as predicted. Synchronisation spike to near operational levels after nine seconds. Notional maximum pain response triggered. Synchronisation spikes drastically, above operational threshold. Cranial mount detonated, subject (REDACTED). Synchronisation spike to (REDACTED). Sensors report (REDACTED), triggering (REDACTED). Power feed severed as per protocols. Sensors fail due to lack of power. Observation team (REDACTED - DOCUMENT ENDS)


    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/08/10(Mon)23:59 No.8483186
    "I've seen some things in my life. I lived through Second Impact, and survived the African Famine. I was on the ground when Sachiel came through Boston. But the one thing that scares me more than anything else are those Evangelions. How the hell can we possibly think we control anything that can survive having its head torn off long enough to beat an Angel to death with it?"

    Sergeant Walters, 2Div Infantry.

    "The basics of hand-to-hand in an Eva are the same as they are on the ground. All you've got to do is adjust for the fact that you're now twenty stories tall, weight four hundred tons, and the other guy's a laser-shooting octahedron."

    Trooper Hong

    "The operations director of a NERV facility possesses more individual power than any military or political figure on earth. Direct control over three Evangelion units grants any such officer the capacity to effectively wage war against any other Evangelion-armed nation, or the entire mass of the remainder simultaneously. The only meaningful constraint on that power is the fact that it must be exercised through three utterly unreliable children, prone to failure for the least of reasons, or even no reason at all. If NERV ever manages to procure a reliable alternative, the Angel will soon be the least of our worries."

    OpsO Hertz
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)00:00 No.8483202

    Did they just torture that pilot and get their first Berserk?
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    Heh, now I imagine a bunch of general generally going "OH CHRIST NOT AGAIN" when ever they hear that so and so went berserk.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/09/10(Tue)00:03 No.8483257


    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/09/10(Tue)00:05 No.8483300
    "Saving mankind or not, there's just something messed up about floating in a tank of psychoactive amniotic fluid rammed into the spine of an undead cyborg."

    Trooper Hong

    "Can you believe those nerds down here? They spent, like, all day getting us to test their new laser cannon things. Can you believe it? Six hours of my life just gone because they couldn't work the output up to theoretical energy density targets. Hello? It's a visible wavelength! Atmospheric diffusion, much? And that army kid was totally staring at me the whole time, too. Ugh!"

    Camille von Zeppelin

    "The harnessing of antimatter as a potential energy source is the most significant scientific development since electricity. Twenty times more efficient than nuclear fusion, it is not only the most efficient fuel available but the most efficient fuel physically possible. The true potential of this advance will not be uncovered for centuries of dedicated research.

    And, naturally, the first thing they ask me to do with it is stick it in a bullet so they can shoot things with it."

    Dr. Chandrahan

    "The N2 mine used to be a Phantom Weapon, designed to cause such horrific and indiscriminate casualties that it would never have to be used. No matter the situation, the N2 mine ensured no nation ever stood to gain from declaring war. It is irrelevant how many boots you have on the ground, or missiles in the air, if at any time the flick of a switch can kill you and anyone else within a ten kilometre radius.

    Unfortunately, it seems someone neglected to pass on this revelation to the Angels."

    OpsO Hertz
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/09/10(Tue)00:08 No.8483347
    "The Evangelion is a marvellously resilient tool, combining the self-repair of biological systems with the multiple redundancy of artifical weapons. It is capable of sustaining damage that would be catastrophic to any other mechanical or biological weapon and continue performing, and even when it is utterly defeated, so long as it can be recovered it can be restored to full function. Their only weakness is the pilot itself. While an Evangelion can have its waist bisected and continue to fight, It may be difficult to demonstrate to a panicking nerve-linked child that their own legs are, in fact, still attached."

    OpsO Hertz

    "Don't think of it as a buy-in, Mister Hertz. BioGen has no intention of interfering with your command. We merely want to ensure that an organisation as critical to the development of humanity as yours is funded as befits the gravity of its mission."

    "I don't buy it. You're a business, you're not in this for charity. You've got an angle and I want to know it."

    "Please. We aren't so greedy as to guarantee mankind's extinction just to make the numbers on our budget look pretty, unlike the U.N. We've got just as much to lose from Third Impact as you."


    "Well, since you asked, we do have a certain interest in our common foe. The Angels. We don't want to put pressure on you, but it would certainly ensure BioGen's continued, ah, gratitude if you were to allow us to examine an Angel's remains. First, that is, before your U.N. taskmasters ruin any scientific value it had. You're a man of intelligence, you understand how important it is to gain an... uncorrupted insight?"

    "No. The Evangelion project is the one thing standing between us and annihilation. I'm not going to compromise it for your profit."

    "Of course not, Mister Hertz. BioGen would never dream of asking you to engineer such a situation. All we ask is that if such a situation ever arises...

    Well, we're sure you'll make the right choice."
    >> Half-assed something together... Supernova !FzAyW.Rdbg 03/09/10(Tue)00:09 No.8483366

    I was a pilot. "Was" being the key word. There is some sort of undeniable allure to piloting a demi-god, even though we were all dragged through hell itself to survive. The Angels... those unthinking monsters. We were like the Titans of old, fighting against those demonic hosts. I never understood why they called them Angels. If anything, WE were the Angels. The Protectors of Mankind.

    I miss those other pilots. We... we were all so young. You become closer than siblings with those you fight alongside with. After all we went through together... Its... an experience I'll never have again.

    Why am I not piloting anymore? I'm ashamed to say... I don't have the aptitude. You see, we all need a certain amount of synchronization with our Evangelions to even be able to pilot them. If you drop low enough or crack under the strain, you'll simply be a useless tool. And with so few Children found, we simply couldn't afford to be useless.

    Though... I'd give anything to be able to move that beast again. To feel that power... to raise my AT Field and roar at the heavens... its... beautiful.

    Thanks for listening, its just about time for my medication.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)00:10 No.8483380
    At one time, this conference room was filled with arguments about morality and conscience. The top brass wanted a way to ensure full cooperation by the pilots. ‘Chemical inhibitors’, ‘neural implants’, ‘brain washing’, stuff like that. They didn‘t want human beings, they didn‘t even want a loyal dog, they wanted the pilots to be mindless automatons. They wanted complete power over the pilots because they afraid of them. No, mortified.
    The saviours of humanity were an abomination to those they were to protect. I saw one captain’s hand unconsciously move towards his sidearm when he met the second Neo-Spartan. I don’t think he was even aware of it, but subconsciously he knew what he was looking at. Just like the Angels, the pilots are beings completely detached from humanity.
    What are they fighting for? We stole their innocence the day they were born and handed them a destiny they hand no way of comprehending. We took away their childhood and bathed them in reality before they could even talk. They know only war, personal achievement, and the praise of their handlers. They don’t know what they are fighting for and view humanity from outside it. What will happen to them if we win? What will they do when humanity has been saved? How could they possibly continue if fighting the Angels is what their entire existence revolved around? Worse… What if our wunderkinds become away of that terrible truth? It’s all pros and cons for them, so what difference does it make if both ends result in them losing? They could simply give up and let the Angels win.
    That is why our leaders are so scared. We’ve put the fate of humanity in the hands of the inhuman.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)00:10 No.8483395
    >And, naturally, the first thing they ask me to do with it is stick it in a bullet so they can shoot things with it

    Thats just how the world works. When smaller scale solar panels get improved to the point where they can really crank out the juice on a good day, someone is going to make a sungun.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)00:12 No.8483426
    "Sachiel! Messenger of the lord! I am here, divine one! I am your humble ser-"
    -Last words of Rev. Arthur Belling, stepped on by Sachiel during his attack on Boston
    >> Sachiel 03/09/10(Tue)00:16 No.8483500
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    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)00:17 No.8483508



    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)00:23 No.8483612
    "Uh... Commander Rashiid? This is David. I came down to check on Unit 13 before classes started. Um. I'm not sure how to say this, but he went and ripped his mouth plate off. Are you /sure/ I can't take him out for exercises today?"
    -Pilot David

    In reference to someone spending a Bio upgrade point to purchase Natural Weapon: Bite.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)00:28 No.8483692

    Clever. Though the idea of an Eva need to be taken for a walk is both amusing and terrifying.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)00:34 No.8483804
    Thank yew, thank yew.

    "You know, the guys in those old Lovecraft stories must have had pretty weak stomachs. I mean, a big fish squid thing with wings? Whoop-dee-doo, I nearly got eaten by a sentient black hole that cast a shadow in the air. Take that, Cthulhu."
    -Uknown Eva pilot

    "It's weird seeing the double livees those kids lead. I was helping with a synch test once, and one of the pilots drops a few points, a bit beyond his normal range. I asked him later what had happened. He'd been nervous because he had a date with the girl in the next plug over that night.

    Let me tell you, I lost no time in finding my way to a stiff drink."
    -Unknown research assistant, Berlin bureau

    "Son of a...who in the hell put that there?! Get someone up there with a sandblaster, right the hell now! And tell the security chief that spraypaint just got added to the launch chamber contraband list."
    -Chief Mechanic, Unit 17 Support Crew
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)00:39 No.8483888
    The night of the operation, Tristan and I were perched on the scaffolding above our EVAs' cages. The night was so peaceful, the moon gleaming off of the river and the sky a shade of blue I'd never seen before. The skyline was only marred by the terrible shape that loomed over it. I felt as if the faceless thing was watching over me.

    I tried to strike up a conversation with Tristan. I know it was like talking to a brick wall, but I couldn't help but feel like he resented me for the assignation. As usual nothing I said got a response, he just stood there, arms folded, matching the intense glare of his EVA.

    He didn't move, just as still as a tree. I stupidly filled the air with my own chatter, thinking that he was just listening and reflecting. When the Commander gave the order to move out, Tristan didn't even flinch. Didn't even blink.

    "It's time, Tristan." I think I said. After a pause he smiled to himself.

    "Alright, let's go." Was his response before heading for the plug. Funny thing is, I don't think he was talking to me.
    >> LawfulNice !tGTXNZuKLM 03/09/10(Tue)00:40 No.8483905
    It was a mess. They had pushed through emergency funding to get an Eva built quickly enough to maybe save the human race, or at least to take some of the load off of the only two functioning units, which were starting to suffer badly from not being able to undergo full mainanence. When the contractors had told them they could have it on-time, in-budget, or up to specs, they had decided that time was the most important of the three.

    Provisional Unit A had been delivered on time. It had gone badly over budget, the contractor needing to grow three full bodies just to get enough salvagable parts from the quick-growth process. The armor was a plumbers nightmare, corners cut at every opportunity to save time. Worst was the head - rather than taking the time to make the extensive modifications needed, they had simply lopped it off and fashioned something that looked like a cross between a conning tower and a radar array, studded with sensors, which they claimed would work even better than the provided blueprints.

    It was a monster. A patchwork frankenstein fourty meters tall and made with schizophrenic tech that was at the same time far ahead of its time and far behind. It was one of the most powerful war machines ever made. And today it was going to go into battle for the first time.

    They were very careful not to mention to the pilot just how much of his Eva was duct tape. They wanted his morale to be high, after all.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)00:43 No.8483944
    This one makes me lol.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)00:56 No.8484152
    I must say, the sheer amount of stuff that has shown up already far exceeded anything that I expected in a single night. Good job, everyone!

    Though if we have any drawfags in the audience, don't be afraid to chip in! Your work is just as important.
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 03/09/10(Tue)00:59 No.8484191
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    Took me a while because watching movies, but here.

    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)01:12 No.8484352
    "Damn, that's a fine piece of machinery. I bet you could sink that gun in the Charles for a week and it'd still fire like a dream.

    'Course those damn kids'll still find a way to break it..."
    -Chief Mechanic, Unit 17 Support Crew

    Thanks for a fun thread, BMJ. Good luck with the finished product.
    >> /tg/ 03/09/10(Tue)01:19 No.8484445
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    I assumed Skirmishers were the forces sent out to distract the angels like the defense force from the show
    >> Z 03/09/10(Tue)01:21 No.8484473
    Setting up an Angel to doodle based on the random Angel tables... Sadly I'm rolling rather low.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)01:22 No.8484483

    Nope, that is UN Tanks and VTOLS.

    Skirmishers are a general Pilot class that specializes in weapons use rather than AT Field or Berserker cheatery.

    They can either by lightening fast melee fighters or roll around with the biggest guns in the game, depending on their specialization.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)01:35 No.8484659
    "You asked me to meet you at Starbucks to bitch me out about how I've been reacting to the crazy shit that's been going on? You sit there with your vanilla frappuccino bullshit and say that I have a short temper, that I don't get along with others well, that I'm fucking weird, all the while you try to maintain your fake, innocent shy girl facade?"

    "I just- You know that's not true! It's obvious to everyone the carnage the Angels have brought to the city- to the world! But you just have to stop bullying Penny and the others. We have to work as a team!"

    "Oh jeeze, not the 'Let's go team' talk again. I'm out of here. Don't you ever try to blame me for your poor leadership again. I'll backhand you if you do."
    >> Kreigfag !4owhN0wAdY 03/09/10(Tue)01:39 No.8484730
    Shit yeah, I need to get in on a game of this.

    “....Eh? W-why the hell are you waking me up? Angel? Well fuck, just deploy the UN, and gimme ten more minutes...”- Jacob O'Hara, Unit 07 pilot
    >> Couple of things that came up in game and might fit. Sorain 03/09/10(Tue)01:50 No.8484870
    "The pallet gun? Oh lord, not another reporter asking about that travesty. Look, no one had ever designed something that large to be moved before. To fire at anything other then single shot? Never. To be accurate in the hands of someone 40 meters tall? Does this line of questioning answer your question?

    I admit, the thing is and was pathetic, perhaps the single worst part is that we cant get rid of them, its listed in the production procedues that 'all Evangelions are to be issued a Mark 3 progressive Knife, and a Pallet Rifle at the time of production.' Now the progressive Knife, theres a solid peice of work, designed by some no name corperation that made Box cutters. Can you belive that? Box cutters. Even has a built in second blade in the event the first one shatters."

    -Armorments Technition Horaki.

    "You want me to fight those with a defective gun and a box cutter?"
    - Peter 'Prodogy' Terchankof, Eva Pilot.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)01:57 No.8485006
    "When I was in elementary school I remember a whole bunch of albinos in the class, all siblings, that moved into town right after they built the base. They didn't speak often, not even to each other, and they never showed any emotion. Everyone else thought they were creepy, though maybe that's why I was so fascinated by them. I followed them home one day, asking if I could tag along, and they just agreed. When we got there I introduced myself to their "mother" as a friend from school. I was only 8 at the time, so I don't remember it too much, but I do remember that none of them spoke to one another. Their mom said "Bob, Julie, and Ann are up for training today," and that was it. I remember thinking, she didn't act like a mom at all.

    In fifth grade the first one stopped coming to school. When I asked them what happened to him, they said "He isn't around any more." Gave me the chills. At the time I thought their mom killed him; I still don't think that's too far from the truth. They kept disappearing, though, and when the angels started attacking there was just one left.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)02:05 No.8485144
    "What is the point in saving humanity if we must lose our souls to save ourselves? I laugh and joke, not because I have no discipline, but because I gotta hope I can be normal after this." -Jim Larson, pilot of unit 09
    >> Poke'-War Veteran 03/09/10(Tue)02:13 No.8485258
    ''You can't imagine what it's like, up there in that plug. The power and awareness are amazing each time I synch up, but that's countered quickly by the realization that, in a few minutes, I'll be able to tell you what it's like to have your face melted off.''
    -Joseph Free, Pilot of Eva unit 6.2
    >> Sorain 03/09/10(Tue)02:14 No.8485260
    "You want a personal story? Concerning the pilots? Heh, good timing.

    Today one of them asked me, rather off handedly, 'What are we going to do with the Evas, after we've won the war.' What struck me was that phrase 'Won the war.' that makes it sound like this is a war. The truth is, war, war never changes. Once the Angels are gone, what use do these things have? Massive construction? Use in natural disasters? Space Flight? I think its farely ovius whats going to happen. Every country on the world with two yen to rub together is going to try and get an Eva, and every nation on earth is going to use them in battle for whats left."
    >> Poke'-War Veteran 03/09/10(Tue)02:18 No.8485321
    "Why did it have to be kids? These children... They can't take much more of this. As much as I want to avoid another Impact, I think I dread seeing their mental state after we finish this even more."
    - Markus Cline, Operations Director
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)02:21 No.8485353

    "I also remember that other guy. He was always really friendly with everyone, and everyone at school liked him. The one who got picked to be the pilot. He was never smug about it, but everyone at school recognized him as a hero. The teachers exempted him from tests and he got away with tons of absences, but he never flaunted it. He just said stuff like, 'yeah, I go into the robot, they tell me to shoot, I shoot.' That's how it started, anyway. After the fourth or fifth attack, though, something changed. He became less talkative, and whenever anyone brought up his job he wanted to change the subject. Eventually he started obsessing over the eva units. He was convinced that something wasn't right about them, and nobody would tell him what it was. Then the ninth attack came. I didn't see what happened, since I was in the shelter the whole time, but he wouldn't say a word after that. He killed himself the next day, leaving a rambling suicide note about his mother, who's been dead for a while. His dad found the journal he kept, and I was lucky enough to see parts of it. There were some seriously twisted photos of unarmored eva units, and some excerpts from an 'experiment log' that really made my skin crawl. I wish I had just stolen the thing, because when they found it in his dad's possession they took him away and confiscated it.

    There's a lot going on at the base that they don't want anyone to see. I caught a tiny glimpse of what they do there, and now I honestly wish I had just minded my own business."
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/09/10(Tue)02:22 No.8485371
    Intelligence is overrated. No really, it is. And while we're on the subject, sod off, egghead. Didn't mean anything by it, mind you, but sod off anyway.

    See, the problem with intelligence, REAL intelligence, is that it makes you curious, makes you want to know about- well, everything. Problem is, we've put the same spin on it that we put on alcohol and fags- mainly that it's a good thing to be intelligent, especially with all the evidence to the contrary. What, you think that all this 'civilization' is a good thing? Or should I be grateful that 'intelligence' is what gave birth to me? 'Test-tube grown lad makes good as an EVA pilot'. Fuck that! Odds are that we wouldn't BE in this mess if we weren't so bloody intelligent. You NEED me because somewhere along the line, someone with enough intelligence to have a wrong idea fucked up, and you needed a spare pilot. Can't train one in time, so you grow one more, make good, simple is as simple does.

    Thing is, I don't mind being simple. I -prefer- to live by instinct. Sure, they aren't really my own, just emotions and feelings you and your fellow braincases decided to plonk into my head, but sod you. I'll make 'em my own- isn't that what humans do? Humans like I'm supposed to be? You're all smart lads, I thought you'd have things down pat by now. Fuck, this is what I'm talking about. You're so -confident- that your calculations were correct and everything was hunky dory. All your personality imprinters were 100% A-OK, weren't they? Your genetic manipulations? Why, nothing wrong there, let's go home! Coronation Street's on the telly!
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/09/10(Tue)02:23 No.8485382
    Aha, now lookit that, you're being all uncertain now. That's the weird thing about intelligence, innit? One moment, you're on top of the world, all the cards are stacked in your favour- but the next thing you know, someone's pulled a leg out from under your house of cards and blimey, turns out you needs both feet on the ground to build castles in the air! You're buggered so bad, people'd start thinking a 'Trojan' was also some kind of hat!

    Can't beat out sheer animal instinct, I tells you. Do you know how it's like, being in that little tube and letting your mind go free? All of a sudden, I'm not a 'human' being anymore, I'm a fucking animal. Sounds are more dictinct, the faint smell and taste of blood grow stronger, and all of a sudden I'm drinking blood. Pissing it. Shitting it. My mind and body, both soaking in my self-made filth. My spine's turned into red-hot iron, and me blood's pulsing lightning. The red haze covers my eyes, and my body dorwns in adrenalin, as I shut my intelligence off. I'm not some, some, -thing- from a lab anymore, I'm a fucking animal in all senses of the words

    No, I'm a beast, taking what I want from something weaker than I am. I don't care that I have to go for psych evaluations after every battle, or that I have to undergo invasive surgeries just to check up on my physical status. I don't care that people look at me like the freak of nature I know I am, or that fucking hot bird I had my eyes on is getting engaged to a regular human. I don't care that I hate myself for acting like some emo fuck, or that I'm too much of a coward, or maybe an addict, to just end it all. When I kill an Angel, it's as much rape as it is murder- and the violation feels good.

    I'm stupid, I'm mindless- and I'm free. Oh Jesus Lord, I'm free.

    And that's why, Mr. High-And-Mighty Principal Sir, I skipped school Monday.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/09/10(Tue)02:23 No.8485390
    And there's my second piece of writefaggorty (sic). Maybe I'll make some more up when I have time, but for now, I'm out of inspiration.
    >> Poke'-War Veteran 03/09/10(Tue)02:29 No.8485462
    "YES YES YES!"
    The bridge crew were cheering and applauding as Joseph crushed the Angel's core like a rotten watermelon.
    "Calm down people, we still have... "
    Joseph had begun to perform a victory dance. It was impressive, really, except for the fact that the shock of his Eva's feet slamming into the groung was causing the bridge to shake.
    The bridge crew broke down laughing. A week's pay was worth seeing their Director lose his cool.
    >> Z 03/09/10(Tue)02:36 No.8485562
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    >Randomly generated Angel example: Aridiel
    For the Angels section of the book, perhaps.
    >> Poke'-War Veteran 03/09/10(Tue)02:39 No.8485594
    By the way, BMJ, anything of mine that gets used (including past threads; I contributed the 'Gamer" background) can be attributed to Shinikama. I'd tell you this on IRC, but I can't get there from here.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/09/10(Tue)02:43 No.8485654
    Holyshitawesome. More?
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)02:44 No.8485669
    >> Sorain 03/09/10(Tue)02:49 No.8485748
    Ya, more please, thats actually intresting just to think about how to implament!

    "Nature grows solutions to her problems, thats why I can say iwthout irony that the Artifical Pilot Program is natural."

    and of course.

    "Naturally, we tryed mixing the DNA. Sure there was some risk with the Hybrid program, but everything about this business is risky."

    -Anon Research Staff
    >> Z 03/09/10(Tue)02:56 No.8485847
    Glad to see that it had such a positive reaction, there will be moar in the future. But I got into this thread rather late and I need to get some shut-eye.
    >> Poke'-War Veteran 03/09/10(Tue)03:00 No.8485900
    By the way, BMJ, anything of mine that gets used (including past threads; I contributed the 'Gamer" background) can be attributed to Shinikama. I'd tell you this on IRC, but I can't get there from here.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 03/09/10(Tue)03:02 No.8485924
    Aw. Why do all the good drawfags come on late?
    >> Gilliam Yaeger 03/09/10(Tue)03:27 No.8486267
    Because they sleep 20 hours a day. Like cats.
    >> Rashiid 03/09/10(Tue)03:27 No.8486272
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    Nerv Boston here, All other Nervs are faggots.
    >> fault 03/09/10(Tue)03:51 No.8486633
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    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)04:03 No.8486790
    Oh god.
    I want one.
    So bad.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/09/10(Tue)04:06 No.8486820
    rolled 4, 4, 1 = 9

    “No one trusts the U.N. anymore. Know why?” He tipped the glass to his lips, draining it in two gulps, then setting it on the table, right at the edge.

    “They're second best. Oh, sure, it was fine right after Second Impact. When you had people setting claymores in their lawns, eating their neighbors... But now?” He laughed, leaning back and tilting his head, letting the sunlight glint off of his glasses. “We aren't fighting ourselves anymore. We're fighting God. Would I trust a bunch of suits to kill an Angel?”

    He pulled a pack of cigarettes from his pocket, offering me one. I declined, and he shrugged, lighting one for himself. He set the pack on top of the glass, puffing away.

    “There's only one thing that can beat an Angel. And that's a big fucking demon.” He leaned in close. “Guess what NERV has?”

    He put the cigarette out, crushing it into the ashtray, watching it smolder for a moment. “Picture this,” he said, pointing to the glass, “U.N.” his finger moved up, to the pack. “NERV.”

    With a tiny move of his hand, he pushed the glass off the table. It struck the floor as the man in front of me grinned like a bastard, shrugging again as it shattered. The pack slapped down just after, unharmed.

    “Fragile. That's all I'm gonna say.” And that was that.
    >> Kreigfag !4owhN0wAdY 03/09/10(Tue)04:21 No.8487002
    “Huh? 'What is Eva?' What the fuck kind of question is...Look, I don't know where the hell you got that information, but forget it. Right. Now. The Evangelions are nothing but machines...”- Operations Director Ken Chow, before the activation of Unit-07
    >> Sorain 03/09/10(Tue)04:23 No.8487040
    Ironically, its probly a better PR move to make your enemys 'Angels' then 'Demons'. If you did, people would not only get on the "Your using devils magic to fight them!" angle but the "Wheres God huh? Why cant we see what these 'Artifical Angels' NERV uses to fight with look like under all that armor?" angle. Of course, the wild internet theroy that NERV is protecting the mother of demons 'Lilith' from divine retribution is just insane. Surely it was made up by some nutcase. (and not, say SELEE.)
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/09/10(Tue)04:26 No.8487065
    rolled 5, 5, 5 = 15

    Avoiding the theological angle entirely and calling them 'invaders' might have had interesting consequences.
    >> Kreigfag !4owhN0wAdY 03/09/10(Tue)04:31 No.8487109
    Decided to archive this awesome.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)04:49 No.8487277
    technically EVAS are also angels,only humongous.The only thing that could be considered a demon is the EVA 01
    >> Bright Future ★ Subprocessor DM 03/09/10(Tue)04:52 No.8487318
    rolled 4, 4, 1 = 9

    The first prototypes were crude, unwieldy things, barely able to take two steps without something failing, detaching, and leaking all over the place while we pulled emergency shutdown.

    The two test types were better, much better. By then we knew how to assert control, keep things together. They only berserked once during first activation, and bakelite calmed em' right down.

    Production types were the best. Most of the bugs had been worked out, there were backups and emergency bolts on everything, and battery power lasted more than twice as long. One of them even had a built-in N2 mine. Never had to use it, but there it was.

    Mass Production brought us a whole load of problems. EVAs aren't meant to be cloned outright; they're supposed to grow on their own. Be unique, or something like that. Still, around the 4th or 5th we got it under control. Slight variations, nothing that really made a difference.

    Refinements started to swing around once we had the 9th. We had special-purpose units, EVAs primed for aerospace operations, undersea combat, AT-countermeasures. Even had our own version of the S2 Engine. Bastards called it S1.1, the 'new antimatter'. Pure technology, none of that bio-Angel stuff. Not as good, but not as prone to blowing the hell up either. We were on the 21st 'messenger' by then.
    >> Bright Future ★ Subprocessor DM 03/09/10(Tue)04:53 No.8487328
    rolled 6, 4, 6 = 16

    Now? 43. NERV has branches in 18 countries. Smallest one has nine EVAs and eight backup pilots. Pribnow Chambers keep passive AT Shielding around every major population center. Geo-drop can deliver a team anywhere in the world in fifteen minutes. NERV Central itself has been moved to the Moon, linked right to the planet by a Dirac Reflector. Average response time to an Angel attack is thirteen seconds. MAGI pinged the last within three meters and had it covered in N2 fire a minute later. One casualty. Pilot knocked his head on the plug door getting out.

    Some people don't think the Angels will ever go away. That we'll never be able to defeat them. Know what I say? Keep em' coming. I've got kids to feed and NERV gets them steak every tuesday.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)05:09 No.8487482
    Of course I remember the day the suits came into my classroom and asked for *CLASSIFIED.* Of course, I didn't find out why until after the first battle. It was later still when us teachers at *CLASSIFIED* learned that all our students guinea pigs of NERV's pet project; the school, their pen. About half of us walked out. The half who stayed, we thought we could somehow help. At least maintain an air of normalcy for these UN sanctioned child soldiers. But it's hard. Every time the sirens go off, we watch helplessly as a suit escorts our students. And every time they come back, they've left a little bit more of themselves inside that. . .thing they pilot. And if they don't come back? Well, next siren, the suit escorts out a different child. I can only imagine what it must be like for one of them. . .
    -interview with *NAME WITHHELD,* teacher at *CLASSIFIED*
    >> Sorain 03/09/10(Tue)05:23 No.8487612
    Sub Processor DM. You offically have my attention and respect. not as much as BMJ, but Ive seen a lot more of BMJ's work then yours.

    The image of a world where angel attacks have just become a part of life, and what would happen to kick off a campagin (something along the lines of the angels abruptly getting WAY smarter about things rather then coming in fat and stupid I expect.) fills me with anticipatory fear. Also, love that guys attitude. "Some people file paper work, others shovel shit, I help kill the messengers of god, same deal."
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/09/10(Tue)05:28 No.8487658
    rolled 4, 1, 3 = 8

    I always wondered what would have happened if there was no last Angel. If the end never came, and life went on. In such a world, the population in general would have accepted infrequent Angel attacks as normal. They would expect NERV to be fully equipped to defend them from anything and everything that came along.

    And so, the stage would be set for an event on Second Impact scale. The appearance of an Angel even more powerful than Adam, that eats EVAs like candy. The awakening of Lilith, beneath NERV's primary base, rendering all in the vicinity into LCL and beginning procedures for the planet's absorption. The outpouring of Heaven's Host itself, tens of thousands of Angels all appearing at once across every sky.

    >> Sorain 03/09/10(Tue)05:36 No.8487728
    How do we know ADAM was that powerful? We know that ADAM's sealing caused SI, but that involved the lance. I would have pictured ADAM as essentially an armorless Eva with horrific ATS. Back more on topic, Why have it be hopeless? Why not have things just be desperate, mostly becasue (irony here) NERV COM didnt take the threat seirusly until things got out of hand? "We lost the first responce team." "Send in the second, third, and fifth teams then." calm not to worryed. Now once 4-5 teams have bit it, then you get Third Angel JSSDF level panic. Stick ADAM on the moon, with bits of lilith scattered at each of the earth bound NERV's to keep em guessing. Then have the PC's realize that theirs is the last team left, and that means eventually the Angel/s are going to check all the NERV sites on earth, and realize where the prize actually is. rather odd combination of scavengeing S&R to get more equipment and manpower together and a final showdown on the moon to stop whatever the angel/s took down the earth.

    Though the Biblical "tens of thousands of Angels all appearing at once across every sky." is a nice image, playable its not. Could work as a suprise "GM is bored now, players are bored now, game ends." (Angels fall, everyone dies?)
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)05:40 No.8487758
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    I'd prefer Adeptus Lagann.

    NGE sucks
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/09/10(Tue)05:41 No.8487763
    rolled 3, 3, 5 = 11

    Well, I'd guess Adam was supposed to be just as powerful as Lilith, the god of the White Moon to Lilith's Black. Since we never see either being act entirely on their own, it's up in the air.

    Desperate can easily become hopeless. Whichever works best at the time.

    Endgame, no matter which form it comes in, is always endgame. Third Impact is the last act of the Campaign. The GM is free to bring it about in whatever manner he chooses. Unique is good.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/09/10(Tue)05:43 No.8487773
    rolled 1, 1, 4 = 6

    I'd be happy to help you either:

    1. Adapt AE
    2. Create a new system

    If you'd like to take some initiative.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)05:43 No.8487775
    I was there when the N2 mine dropped. Non-nuclear they call it, those scientist guys. Gotta be a lie. The commander told me not to look, said it'd hurt. I did anyway. Couldn't see for days afterwards.

    But it wasn't that that hurt. No.

    It was the 18 VTOLs, 25 tanks and innumerable ground crew that were in the blast radius that hurt the most. I had been amongst them, just minutes before. Until the giant, flailing 'thing' sent a large piece of shrapnel thorough my right shoulder blade. Getting a medivac had been welcome. Starting to wish I hadn't got it. All my friends were in that blast.

    They said it had been a last resort. Just in case these NERV people managed to fumble the ball. Wasn't going to happen, they said, just a precaution.
    Those NERV guys have a lot to answer to. Their job was to protect us from something we couldn't protect ourselves from. If they screw up- Screw up again- we're all dead.

    And I doubt it'll be some nice instant vaporization for the most of us.
    >> OmniTracker 03/09/10(Tue)05:51 No.8487838
    Did you know that my legs don't even work outside an Eva? It's true. Muscle atrophy due to malnutrition and blood poisoning while I was a child. Can't run, can't walk, I can crawl, that's it.

    But inside. I can run, jump, fight, shoot, swim, carwhell. You name it.

    Hell, pretty sure I can save the world.
    >> OmniTracker 03/09/10(Tue)05:52 No.8487848

    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)08:12 No.8489040
    For everything that I have not responded to specifically in the last 7 hours (sleep, my one true foe!): excellent work, /tg/!
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 03/09/10(Tue)08:25 No.8489139

    The funny part is that that's probably a much nicer future than one in which the Angels are stopped before Third Impact. I might run a game like that, just for the dissonance when, after going to X-COM grade shitpit to hyper-regimented NERV employed to its fullest with technology considered impossible even years ago, a colossal fuckup knocks them all back to X-Com shitpit.

    For now, though, we're working on the conventional setting. Once that's in place and sent out the focus will shift to alternates, including WWEVA, different technology levels, and this, since it'll take more upgrades in tech to forestalling 'maxxing out'.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)10:18 No.8490305
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    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 03/09/10(Tue)10:20 No.8490324
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    Oh wow, this thread is still going?

    True fact: The second channel group beats up cripple pilots.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)10:38 No.8490507
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    > The second channel group beats up cripple pilots.
    >> NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm 03/09/10(Tue)10:43 No.8490567
    Iruel could be fought easy.
    Virtual Evas
    A video game where if you LOOSE you DIE sort of thing.
    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 03/09/10(Tue)10:45 No.8490586
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    >.hack// evangelion

    Not sure if want.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)10:47 No.8490613

    God GOD Gendo looks manly in that picture.

    Though the fact that the new bitch made it into that picture and Awesomesuka didn't fills me with generic rage.
    >> Nerv Boston 03/09/10(Tue)11:16 No.8490913
    Bump for incoming writefaggotry
    >> grimdark Writefag 03/09/10(Tue)11:34 No.8491093
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    Ever gotten caught outside a shelter when an angel attacks?


    Well, I have. If you've ever wanted to see what hell on Earth would look like then don't hide the next time one rolls into town. I watched man-made gods, wage a battle to save our pathetic asses. They leveled so much of the city that I was almost killed by the flying remains of a bank vault.

    In the end, We won but barely. We almost lost that day. But, we came through. Our gods won. Not the angels.

    If you ever wanna see a god I guess. Just don't run away when hell comes to town.

    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)11:35 No.8491108
    >looking badass

    What is this I dont even
    >> The Chairman 03/09/10(Tue)11:36 No.8491126
    Tengen Genesis Evanlagann
    >> grimdark Writefag 03/09/10(Tue)11:40 No.8491156
    "Whats going on!"

    "Sir, Eva unit six has gone berserk."

    "Well...yes I can see this, why is it beating Unit four with its own arm?"

    - Dialogue between an operations director and his staff during a test run of the berserker system.
    >> Nerv Boston 03/09/10(Tue)11:41 No.8491187
    "I'm not doing it," Sunny said. "These things are for fighting monsters from another world, not for... this!"

    Raashid smiled wearily, sympathetically "I agree that this is wrong on," he paused, with a momentary look of helplessness in his eyes "more levels than I understand. However, the fact remains that Commander Ramsey, in his," another pause, "infinite wisdom, has seen fit to have us participate in the Inter Nerv Eva Dance Competition. It is my job to trust and follow his orders, even his crazy ones, to the best of my ability."

    "You're still not getting me in the plug," Sunny backed away slowly, shrugging off Raashid's scarred hand on her shoulder. "I-I-I don't even know how to dance."

    "No one does." <i>Except for Unit 13</i> Raashid left out. David still had no idea what his Eva had done, but damn if it wasn't the best breakdancing he'd ever seen. Raashid looked around, then lowered his voice before continuing. "Listen, I think it'd be a good idea to keep someone here in case of an attack, so it's fine by me if you want to stay. We'll bring you something back from Russia."

    Just then, a Nerv intelligence agent approached and stood at attention. "Sir, we have the reconnaissance report on the other branches." He handed over a folder.

    Raashid skimmed through the papers, and stopped at one for a few seconds, his eyes growing wide. "The Germans are 'blinging out' their Evas?! Doctor Solomon," he tapped his comm bead, "get to work immediately on Eva bling."

    Over the bead, the old man replied "Eva Bling? Ho-ly Gad, I've gat jest da ting! I'm on it, Cap"

    Raashid strode briskly towards the Eva bays, Sunny and the intelligence officer completely forgotten. "By God, we are going to show those Germans who owns the dance floor."
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)11:44 No.8491219
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    It's more likely than you think!
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)11:45 No.8491230
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    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)11:50 No.8491280
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    I have no idea what to think of this.

    It a hilarious mental image, and would make for a great session, but it would be so far out of left field that I can't imagine how I would use that in the PDF.

    Great stuff, though.
    >> Nerv Boston 03/09/10(Tue)11:58 No.8491388

    Life on the Ground, Special Events section?

    Oh, and dancing in front of The Monolith with Eva scale fireworks going off was a great image.

    The following songs were used in this session:
    Training montage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K7fL5s_1ac
    Arriving at the monolith for the competition:
    Party after the awards were given out:
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)12:00 No.8491425
    It was shortly after the German team had taken to the floor that an angel showed up to attack the Moscow base. Sensor data captured at the scene showed that it was tougher than any angel to date, and if it had had time to engage it would have made a stiff fight for all concerned.

    However, it barely had time to spread its AT field before it was fatally served. Pieces of its core, shattered by its humiliation, were mounted on gold chains and presented to the winning bureau.
    >> Nerv Boston 03/09/10(Tue)12:05 No.8491480

    Oh god, if only. The point of the dance competition was to avoid the Israfel Dance Fight, but have something just as stupidfun so I resisted the urge to have an angel attack. Good times were had by all.
    >> NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm 03/09/10(Tue)12:07 No.8491504
    ... oh god now I've got an image of issac hayes soul in an eva oh god
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)12:09 No.8491527


    I'm assuming that this is for the "Hunt for Adam" alternative campaign style?
    >> NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm 03/09/10(Tue)12:09 No.8491529
    As it only has a core and a brain of an Evanglion, Limited Production Evangelions are commonly seen in border outposts, small countries, and in research facilities. Their nuclear battery offers longer life than a conventional ion based battery, but unlike the S2 engine, it is not unlimited. Limited Production Evangelions combine the AT fields of proper Evangelions with the cheap maintenance cost of Tridents and other mecha types.

    Said this in the chat, saying this here.
    >> Sachiel 03/09/10(Tue)12:12 No.8491566
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    Mass Produced A.T Field Generators? You are going to make me bust out the big weapons.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)12:15 No.8491598
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    The HMS Illustrious is, simply put, the largest vessel ever created by man. Imagine it, a flying city, measuring more then two kilometers from bow to stern, and weighing more then the entire Royal Navy did before the Impact Wars. She has a crew of over six thousand, plus another twelve hundred NERV personnel. Her air wing is composed of over 300 fighters, bombers, and VTOLs, including some craft never even considered for carrier operations. She has more firepower then the entire UN Mediterranean Fleet, and is better protected then the biggest battleship of the Second World War. Her main railguns are accurate enough to shoot an apple off the head of an astronaut in low Earth orbit. And despite all this, she was still cheaper to build and maintain then those damn brats and their oversized dolls NERV has us haul around the globe all day.

    - Commander Michael Fisher, First officer of the HMS Illustrious
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)12:16 No.8491606
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    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)12:16 No.8491615

    That would be correct, noticed a few typos on my first post so I deleted it and redid it.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)12:18 No.8491632
    Oh this thread is still here, sweet!

    BMJ, I assume you'll be doing a once over for spelling and grammar errors? Gotta be professional.

    Other than that, all I can say is keep being awesome.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)13:18 No.8492347
    Sir, have you ever been in a battle? I mean on the front lines, staring your enemy in the face, not ordering a missile launch from twenty kilometers back. Well I have, I was there when Sachiel broke through the outer Paris defense ring. In the time it took our EVA's to reach the front, It had already routed a mechanized division, then went on to destroy over four dozen aircraft, and took more firepower then your entire regiment can dish out, right up to the use of a tactical N2 mine, without being scratched. The UN's failed attempts to defeat the Third Angel resulted in five thousand military and civilian deaths, at a cost of just over a billion American dollars.

    Those "Toys" and "Kids" you are talking about defeated THAT angel in five minutes, with minimal civilian casualties, and no fatalities. The Children have to pilot them, because there is no one else in the world who can. And while their peers are working up the courage to ask that cute girl on a date, they are wondering if tomorrow they will die screaming, feeling every wound as their Evangelions are ripped apart by some eldritch horror that N2 warheads barely faze, knowing that if they die, all of humanity dies with them. So I'll ask you to show the Children some fucking respect... Sir.
    -Captain Megan Welsh, NERV Ops Director, replying to a comment made by a UN Army Colonel.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)13:28 No.8492438

    Nice work. Sums up the Eva pilots position very nicely.
    >> Alanith 03/09/10(Tue)13:30 No.8492459
    Thank you, I'm the same guy who did >>8491598 as well.
    Suppose I should come up with a name if I write any more.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)14:05 No.8492858
    "failure? hah. listen. I'm old for what I do. CSAR for those pilots is one of the hardest jobs you can hope for- we have to go out and recover ejected pilots in the middle of combat. It ain't easy- or fun. Ever fight off angelspawn? Yeah, conventional weapons don't work so well against them, those little buggers are almost immune to small-arms. we learned that the hard way, now it's all about speed. Failure isn't ever an option though- those kids are all that stands between us and annihilation. I'd say that rates the risk we take to recover them and patch them up so the docs can fix them again."

    "it's getting better- more teams, fewer missions for us, but still. every time a team goes out, we go out with them, just in case. We're the guys that save the saviors, and I guess I couldn't ask for a better job than that"

    -1lt Vladimir Borusa, 21st NERV SF company
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)14:14 No.8492948

    Oh yes. I know just where to put you.

    Thanks, anon!
    >> LDT-A 03/09/10(Tue)14:22 No.8493028
    After all this time, they come running back to me with their twisted trophy in tow, they couldn't hold off the angels even when it was their sole focus. I've always known that the Angels are comparably benign compared to the true enemies of mankind. And now that NERVs funding is flowing to me alone, I'll have a regrettable, but necessary chance to turn my decades worth of fortifications against SEELE upon an entirely more pathetic enemy. Whilst its true they embody everything I want for mankind, they don't deserve it. After all, they never worked for it.

    - Commander [REDACTED] of [REDACTED]
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)14:29 No.8493098

    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)14:59 No.8493430
    "I snuck out of the shelter when that one came. I saw it with my own eyes; long and segmented like those old pre-dinosaur fossils you see in museums, but alive and to top it all off floating seven stories up. I was fascinated.

    Then it tore down my appartment building and the two next to it with a swipe of one of its tentacles. I booked it back to the shelter without a backward glance."
    -Aleksander, student, remembering an attack by Shamshel

    "I was with the attack site cleanup crew in the aftermath. There was a perfectly smooth hole about ten feet wide where the thing had been floating. I managed to get close enough to drop a big old rock--a chunk of concrete, really--straight down. Never did hear it hit anything."
    -A civilian contractor remembering an attack by Ramiel

    "Called me a idjit they did. Something big, white and pointy with a mask on its head come zooming by my boat, nearly flipped the old girl over. So I git on the horn to warn the coast guard, and they laugh me plumb off the line. Next day I heard that thing cut up half the UN fleet. Now who's the idjit?"
    -Roy Thatcher, fisherman, remembering an encounter with Gaghiel

    "Frankly, I distrust the entire idea. Having children piloting giant robots is bad enough, but did you see the story about the one that malfunctioned? The other pilots had to put it down, and they nearly killed the poor boy inside to do it. There's got to be a better way to fight those angels."
    -Jennifer Tate, housewife, unwittingly commenting on an attack by Bardiel
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)15:03 No.8493478
    a little offtopic but i wanted to share this little crossover trailer which laugh for half an hour yesterday:
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)15:14 No.8493586
    "You think you've seen scary shit? You think the ruined buildings and the twisted bodies of the dead is horrifying? It's all bullshit. You haven't known fear until you've heard one of those 'Evas' /howl/ over their kill."
    -Sergeant Davis, 3rd NERV Tank Platoon

    "Commander Rashiid, the VTOL pilots are threatening to go on strike if we don't do something to minimize their chances of being caught in an Angel's death explosion."

    "Hm. Shoot them all, then bring in the next batch. I don't have time to listen to the bitching of the cannon fodder."
    -NERV Boston command center recording

    "Neon purple... Will someone please explain to me who had the brilliant idea to paint the giant death machine NEON PURPLE?"
    -Chief Technician Richardson regarding Unit 23
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)16:00 No.8494257
    ...I think the second quote may veer to close to 'grimdark for the sake of grimdark'...
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)16:02 No.8494286
    ...you find the second quote grimdark but not the third?
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)16:26 No.8494590
    I counted the second and third ones as part of the same excerpt.
    >> macrophage 03/09/10(Tue)16:55 No.8494975

    >> Touhou Homebrew Guy 03/09/10(Tue)17:01 No.8495063
    Rude and inexcusable reasons!

    I think he's quoting from his actual game.

    Never knew Boston's OD was so...wow.
    >> Alanith 03/09/10(Tue)17:03 No.8495084
    You want to know about the Angel War and the pilots, huh? Well listen up then. Take a good look at the survivor's faces just once and you'll know that they have seen and done things no fourteen year old kid should ever have had to endure. We striped them away from their former lives and burnt them up in a desperate battle to protect mankind. We had no choice, it was all we could do just to survive in those days.

    Have you ever read the report Dr. Hunter wrote? The one on the results of the Pilot program? There's a reason most of it was never released to the general public. At the end of eighteen months, out of over forty children, five lay dead on the field of battle, five more were sent to insane asylums, six ended up taking their own lives. Nine were crippled for life from their injuries, one of whom never even fought an angel, one of the Evangelions went berserk during a routine synch test and tore out his entry plug. One was turned to goo inside her entry plug when her synch ratio went too high while fighting against Sammael, we never managed to retrieve her, and they just stuck a new recruit in the plug the next month and called it a draw. Three were killed by religious extremists or terrorists trying to "Carry out God's Will" or some crap like that.

    The lucky ones, if you can call them that, suffer from a range of minor physical and mental ailments even to this day, twelve years later. I still suffer nightmares from what I put these kids through during the War as their Ops Director. If Humanity could subject children to these horrors, not just once, but over and over, are we any better then the Angels we fight?

    - Commander Megan Welsh, Supreme Commander of NERV
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)17:05 No.8495114
    You have no idea, man. One Eva has been hit by an Angel /once/ in all seven fights, but been nailed by friendly VTOL/tank fire much more often.
    >> Sachiel 03/09/10(Tue)17:06 No.8495120
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    To say that they had an encounter with a hostile cripple would perhaps be more accurate, but not as entertaining.

    In any case, bullying something smaller than you is a dick move... Sachiel approves!
    >> Contractor 03/09/10(Tue)17:06 No.8495131
    Guy who does a lot of English fiction editing for peers at Uni here. I'm volunteering to do as much editing as desired before the final product is released (already spoke a bit about this with BMJ). If anyone who submitted a story here isn't fine with me tweaking their work, I'd appreciate you saying so now. Not that BMJ will necessarily be taking my edits, mind you. I will be diligent in keeping works as close to the original text as possible.

    Again, if you don't want your work touched, please say so, that I know now not to spend time on it.
    >> macrophage 03/09/10(Tue)17:07 No.8495143

    Cripple shouldn't have thrown that pie on Sani :^|
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)17:07 No.8495144
    I know a bunch of these have been thought up already, but just in case anything was missing, here's a feature list I've been saving for the next AdeptEva thread.

    1 Arms: Elbow spurs
    2 Arms: Oversized limb
    3 Arms: Stony forearms
    4 Arms: Tentacle-like
    5 Arms: Undersized limb
    6 Build: Emaciated
    7 Build: Hunchback
    8 Build: Obese
    9 Build: Unnaturally light
    10 Build: Unnaturally heavy
    11 Digits: Abnormally long
    12 Digits: Extra digits
    13 Digits: Extra joints
    14 Digits: No nails
    15 Digits: Odd number
    16 Ears: Bat-like
    17 Ears: Missing
    18 Ears: Pig-like
    19 Ears: Pointed
    20 Ears: Other
    21 Eyes: Cyclopic
    22 Eyes: Goat-like
    23 Eyes: Glowing
    24 Eyes: Smoking
    25 Eyes: Other
    26 Face: Canine muzzle
    27 Face: Insectile mandibles
    28 Face: Missing nose
    29 Face: Underdeveloped features
    30 Face: Other
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)17:08 No.8495153

    31 Hands: Backward-bending fngers
    32 Hands: Extra thumbs
    33 Hands: Pincers
    34 Hands: Suckered
    35 Hands: Other
    36 Head: Animalistic
    37 Head: Animate hair
    38 Head: Bald
    39 Head: Malformed
    40 Head: Other
    41 Horns: Draconic
    42 Horns: Metallic
    43 Horns: Ram-like
    44 Horns: Vestigial
    45 Horns: Other
    46 Legs: Backward-bending
    47 Legs: Cloven feet
    48 Legs: Frog-like
    49 Legs: Bird-like
    50 Legs: Other
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)17:09 No.8495165

    51 Skin: Feathered
    52 Skin: Loose
    53 Skin: Patterned
    54 Skin: Rotting
    55 Skin: Scaled
    56 Skin: Slimy
    57 Skin: Strangely colored
    58 Skin: Translucent
    59 Skin: Variable color
    60 Skin: Other
    61 Tail: Aquatic
    62 Tail: Fiendish
    63 Tail: Mammalian
    64 Tail: Reptilian
    65 Tail: Other
    66 Teeth: Blunt
    67 Teeth: Fanged
    68 Teeth: Metallic
    69 Teeth: Needle-like
    70 Teeth: Other
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)17:09 No.8495176

    71 Other: Forked tongue
    72 Other: Eyestalks
    73 Other: Vestigial limb
    74 Other: Extraneous nipple
    75 Other: Inhuman voice
    76 Other: Profane birthmark
    77 Other: Strange smell
    78 Other: Emits strange noises
    79 Other: Fungal/leafy growths
    80 Other: Incontrollable twitch
    81 Other: Bleeding pores
    82 Other: Androgynous
    83 Other: External organ
    84 Other: Whistling umbilicus
    85 Other: No shadow
    86 Other: Missing joint
    87 Other: Unnatural temperature
    88 Other: Avian snood
    89 Other: Infested
    90 Other: Bony ridges
    91 Other: Hermaphroditic
    92 Other: Spinneret
    93 Other: Antennae
    94 Other: Exoskeleton
    95 Other: Incongruous footprints
    96 Other: No refection
    97 Other: Internal glow
    98 Other: Smoking breath
    99 Roll twice, ignore any result of 99 or higher.
    100 Roll three times, ignore any result of 99 or higher
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)17:10 No.8495189
    "Our saviors, these 'Evangelions', are little better than the angelic monstrosities they fight. Fashioned of humanity's rib and capable of 'berserking' at the drop of a pin, how long until they show their true colors? Damnation walks in their footsteps! Doom resounds in their cries! How long until these true children of Eve pluck the apple from their caretakers? I fear I will live long enough to find out."
    -Unknown pirate radio broadcast, intercepted by NERV Arizona

    "I. LOVE. MY. JOB!"
    -Unknown Eva pilot on defeat of 5th Angel
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)17:13 No.8495224

    Oh wow. That is quite the list you have there.

    The Eva distinguishing features are all wrapped up at this point, But I think i know exactly what to do with this.

    Thank you very much for your contribution!
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)17:16 No.8495260

    Of those, I think these should be added most (with some thoughts on them by me, and another extra one):

    Smoking or steaming breath/eyes/skin
    Bleeding pores (leaving a trail of blood behind you constantly, flicking blood everywhere when running/fighting... sweet)
    Hole in the throat that whistles when moving
    Backward bending legs
    Uncontrollable twitch
    The Eva screams instead of roaring (like a frightened/dying horse, a sound often more chilling than a roar)
    >> Dark_Matter 03/09/10(Tue)17:17 No.8495273
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    Oh hey. Somebody remembers the Eva Carrier :p

    Hold up, I have an updated picture of that to upload. Placeholder internet image for now.
    >> The Lone Guardsman !GTO55xPMKU 03/09/10(Tue)17:18 No.8495283
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    I can offer you nothing in the way of content, BMJ, but I can offer you undying support as a loyal fan and follower, and I will run a game of this with my group.

    So, I give you an internet BROfist, because you are awesome and you should feel awesome.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)17:18 No.8495284
    >>What to do with this
    Care to drop a hint?

    Also, a second look tells me that there's a spelling error or few in there; make sure to F7 them before adding, please.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)17:21 No.8495318
    "stressful doesn't begin to describe our ops. Entry plugs aren't exactly designed with the best ejection systems known to man, and you add combat damage and feedback from an EVA on top of that, it's a medic's worst nightmare. We've pulled pilots out of scalding Fluid, had to do battlefield trage on pilots who've had plugs punctured by incoming attacks, and sedate pilots that were trying to chew through their limbs with their teeth. And we have to do that with 40 story tall death machines hurling firepower equivalent to a good-sized world war at each other, with emotionally unstable 14 year olds on one side and unknowable ETs on the other. Add in angelspawn that are damn hard to put down, and it's a recipe for one hell of a job."

    "still, there's nothing quite like watching a 40-story tall death machine piloted by an emotionally unstable 14 year old who you pulled out of a entry plug pierced by a 10 meter long chunk of re bar get between you and oncoming death to make you realize that they look out for you just as much as you look out for them. When it's all over, I hope they get out ok. that's all I got to say"

    - 1lt Vladimir Borusa, 21st NERV SF company
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)17:22 No.8495328
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    Well, as I said, the actual distinguishing feature for the Eva are pretty wrapped up and solid right now.

    But as it stands, the Angels descriptions are pretty much left up to their general body type and GM fiat. This list of features (plus one or two additions) could REALLY add some character there.

    Unless you object to that.


    Brofist returned.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)17:22 No.8495330

    That looks like the 2nd ed tiefling features table.
    >> Dark_Matter 03/09/10(Tue)17:26 No.8495375
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    >> Sachiel 03/09/10(Tue)17:27 No.8495398

    I believe it was mentioned before that it was based on that table.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)17:28 No.8495412
    Sounds like a good use to me. Epic battles need epic enemies, and coming up with fantastic enemies isn't exactly the easiest thing as a GM. Although, if you have any features on the Eva table that you feel aren't quite up to par with the rest, it'd be excellent if you swapped them out with any of the ones mentioned here >>8495260. Unless your program is way different from any of the page editors I've used for newspaper layout design (hence me empathizing with why you don't want to change what's set), that shouldn't be much of an adjustment.

    You're good. Scarily good. It is indeed.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)17:52 No.8495701
    u mad, another cancerous tripfag is born, etc.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)18:39 No.8496233
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)18:51 No.8496361
    So, how's the pdf coming along?
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)19:05 No.8496529

    Each chapter is currently in word doc form for ease of editing right now. When I am satisfied with a chapter, I SCIENCE it into a PDF, and in the final stage combine all of the individual PDFs in order and run it through a page numbering program.

    So to answer your question... its not at PDF level yet.

    As a much better answer:
    Little tweaks (like a new asset or two) might come down the line.
    The Life on the Ground and Second Impact World chapters are getting some nice additions, including more support for anti-nerv organizations to serve as human antagonists.

    The entire Adams children chapter is in the process of receiving a major overhaul, from better stats for the canon angels to a completely reworked Angel generation system.

    Most other chapters are more or less done, sans tweaking as a result of malfunctions that come up during playtesting.

    That for the crunch. Obviously, the fluff from this thread has not been integrated yet. I'm honestly surprised at how much showed up. I was expecting to have to do this another 2+ times to get all the material I needed. I'm willing to bet I have most of it right here, only to be supplemented with things like "damn, still need a good opener for Section X" or that sort of thing.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)19:06 No.8496540
    Fucking awesome
    An image of soldiers and medics sprawling to exacuate an unconcious pilot one standing on top of the plug firing into the Angelspawn horde another jumping onto the back of another with a combat knife if only to distract it while they ferry the kid out of there
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)20:17 No.8497534
    An idea for the intro of a Spacevangelion Campaign.

    Expedition Log Day 132 (est. date January 26, 2080)
    We have successfully completed Dirac Jump number 67 and reached the outer fringes of Alpha Centauri, this truly is a historic moment for mankind. However this time spent in relative isolation from the rest of the world made me realize that all this was possible thanks to the Angel War and all the advances it brought forth, namely the S2 Engine and the Evangelion units. Speaking of which, why would the council insist on garrisoning twenty of them on this ship with a complete weapons complement and a military advisor? Its almost as if they expected us to find something hostile in this system.

    Expedition Log Day 138
    Our sensors have picked an AT-Field with an unknown pattern, we haven't been able to pinpoint its exact location and out observation crews are already making plans for an intensive sensor sweep. The military advisor asked me to order the pilots into standby. I reluctantly follow his advice on the offhand that our unknown might actually be an Angel, God help us if I'm right.

    Expedition Log Day 138b
    Its huge, bigger than we expected it to be, we estimate it to be 2 kilometers long. It just stood there, staring at us with its giant eye. The advisor took over command and ordered all Evangelions to attack. The initial positron bombardment pierced its AT-Field, but failed to finish it off quickly enough, I don’t know how, but 5 of our Evas just vanished by the time they were able to take it down. Analysis from the remains confirms that it has no identifiable core, unlike the Angels that were fought more than half a century ago. We have classified this new At-Field reading as green. I pray for the lives of the missing pilots and I also pray we don’t have to encounter anything as horrifying as that again.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)20:20 No.8497595
    Don't forget that if you want it to turn out as close to "perfect" as possible, every section should have a couple proofreadings by different people, and the work as a whole should be proofed so that you catch any references to pages/abilities that no longer exist and a number of other errors that a full reading shows.

    Ideally, the "Same as _______ in Dark Heresy" should be kept to a minimum. Especially for things like talents, moreso than just the general mechanics.
    >> NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm 03/09/10(Tue)20:54 No.8498088

    I worked hard and long on this project. Why? It is simple. I know those children. I know they fight, and they shouldn't have to fight. I fought one, in the prototype, and I lost, hard. That is why we worked on these things, so no normal human will ever have to fight against these angels, these messengers from beyond heaven and Earth...

    - Head of Dummy Plug Development, former Eva pilot Richard Spectre.

    What is this? This is several tons of steel, atoms, and shielding, put together with blood, sweat and tears. We don't fight directly, we buy time. Our armors aren't mystical, we have some weapons, but we aren't fighters. No, we buy time for civilians to evacate, for the heroes to come. We are the Mobile Infantry of this new age, and we will never back down. Why? If we back down, they die, and without them,... well this place would be hell on Earth, as if it wasn't already was.

    -Jacob Arawitz, pilot of the Test Type Trident Armor, head of the newly formed 08th Heavy Marine Squadron
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:07 No.8498225
    Bumping a worthy thread.

    It's amazing to see /tg/ actually GET SHIT DONE.
    >> GDWF 03/09/10(Tue)21:11 No.8498263
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    This better be archived god damnit.

    "To call an eva a weapon, is an insult. Weapons kill their targets, an eva, eradicates every last trace of their target from the face of the planet."

    Research scientist Matthew Hollister on the topic of weaponizing an Evangelion.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:21 No.8498377
    That hyperbole is ridiculous. EVAs struggled to kill even one angel, depending on its strength. Usually the reason why there wasn't anything left of an Angel was due to it self-destructing, rather than leaving a specimen to examine. EVAs are actually rather ineffective weapons; the only reason why they are used is because the AT Field makes conventional armies totally useless, and only an EVA can cancel it out. The only EVA that is distinctive in its killing capacity is Berserk EVA 01. Just watch what happened to 00 and 02 when they fought Zeruel. Their combat performance is seriously underwhelming and it's obvious NERV is only barely prepared for half the threats it faces.

    Moreover, there was never anything to suggest Angels were *truly* divine. They were most likely previous life forms that were meant to become Earth's dominant species; human beings are the final Angel.

    None of that really matters though. So many people miss the point of Eva entirely. This is an ambitious and cool idea, don't get me wrong, but anything meant to make the characters more badass violates the principles of the show, in which human weaknesses and mental sickness are laid bare in the face of apocalypse.

    There's no point in fighting back. Soldiers might as well not exist. I couldn't keep a straight face at the soldier testimonials.

    EVAs themselves are nothing but pieces in a master plan meant to forcibly evolve human beings, not real weapons. Sometimes I wonder if people even watched the same anime I did.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:26 No.8498452
    Adeptus Evangelion's twist on the story seems to give it an injection of Gurren Lagann, while having the collateral damage stage to show the terrible effects these battles have.
    >> Tech Priest Naile 03/09/10(Tue)21:28 No.8498476
    Shouldn't this be Legio Evangalion?
    >> GDWF 03/09/10(Tue)21:28 No.8498478
    Its also from an in-game perspective of someone who thinks they are strictly a weapon. If you saw something like that is able to take on whole armies and not even flinch how would you react?
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:30 No.8498506
    That being said, although I disapprove of the mood of this project and military gung ho flavor text, since it's a fanwork, it could turn out to be quite interesting. I'll still likely play it when it's finished.

    Haven't read that much yet, but do you remember the Jet Alone project in the series? The nuclear powered robot that just walked straight? Or alternatively, there was a robot based off of Jet Alone called TRIDENT in Girlfriend of Steel. Silly as that game was, the idea of a competing government contracted military project to create a "man made" EVA is a reasonable concept.

    Honestly, I detest the idea of conventional military forces being worth anything at all besides providing N2 bombs, as it is contradictory to the source material. However, a military project that develops inferior fake EVAs of a smaller size or different design like TRIDENT makes sense in the setting and would allow for there to be a greater number of Angels appearing for military characters to fight against, even though they would undoubtedly be outclassed, considering 3 EVAs struggled so much to take down some of the Angels and won only by luck in quite a few instances.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:30 No.8498512
    >>The only EVA that is distinctive in its killing capacity is Berserk EVA 01.
    Shinji's mom is one hell of a bitch.

    >>Just watch what happened to 00 and 02 when they fought Zeruel. Their combat performance is seriously underwhelming and it's obvious NERV is only barely prepared for half the threats it faces.
    NERV is terrible at designing weapons. I think even S&WH40K pointed that out. Those regular rifles kill only a single Angel in the entire series, most Angels simply shrugging off any sort of ranged attacks; despite this ineffectiveness NERV is hesitant to engage Angels in melee, and its most regular weapon for that situation... is a knife. Spectacular.

    Arm the EVAs properly (as Adeptus Evangelion lets you do), and you truly have the potential for turning them into spectacular killing machines.
    >> NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm 03/09/10(Tue)21:33 No.8498555
    That's why I made up the idea of LP evas, because if you want to do more than 20, you need better designs/more of them (see Anima's wacky MSV style ea designs)
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:34 No.8498557
    That's probably what bothers me about it.
    GL was a parody/tribute to Super Robot anime like Gao Gai Gar, (which was a reaction to Evangelion) and Getter Robo. In turn, Evangelion was a reaction to anime like Getter Robo and Mazinger. It is meant to be the antithesis of what GL is, and in my opinion, the two don't really mix well.

    Someone like myself, who has watched much super robot anime even before GL came out and made it popular with newfags, knows the score and knows GL is the enemy, essentially, of Eva, and vice versa. Even if they were made by the same studio, what they want to tell you about human beings and the mood they want to instill within you are complete opposites. GL is HUMANITY FUCK YEAH and Eva is HUMANITY FUCK NO.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:34 No.8498567
    >>Honestly, I detest the idea of conventional military forces being worth anything at all besides providing N2 bombs, as it is contradictory to the source material.

    As you said, the Evas are there to break the AT field. Once that's down, why SHOULDN'T conventional forces be useful?

    And even if that's not the case, conventional forces are still useful for decoys to draw Angels into traps or distract it should an Eva be vulnerable. They can provide cover with smoke and explosions for an Eva ambush or retreat. They have a lot of uses that clever players should be able to determine.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:39 No.8498629
    Alright that's good.

    One of the things I liked about Evangelion is that the Angels are more like Kaijuu from Godzilla, meaning there aren't really a lot of small mooks and true enemies only appear rarely. Having lots of Angelspawn badass normals can kill is fun from a gameplay perspective but contradictory to the way Eva was structured, I think.

    I do seriously wonder if concepts such as the Instrumentality made it intact to the game. What about the Mass Production EVAs? Is SEELE okay with NERV arming their EVAs to the point at which no Angel could conceivably reach Central Dogma and contact Lilith?
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:39 No.8498631
    They did, and if this whole project is any indication they did not, by and large, care for it.

    I can't speak for anyone else here, but I personally prefer what's going on in this thread to the original concept, or at least the direction in which the original concept went after the first few episodes. A story about humanity solidifying in the face of catastrophe is, to me, preferable to a story in which that catastrophe has been orchestrated by a cabal of autospecicidal maniacs from minute one, particularly one in which their victory is somehow preordained. Really, what did all of that psychological faffing about in the show accomplish? Judging by the fact that none of the characters ended significantly different than they started, and that the world ended anyway, I'd say not a hell of a lot. Maybe you personally thought that the depressing inevitability of it was cathartic or something, but I just found it inane, particularly since the entire affair could most likely have been avoided if two of the characters (you know who you are) had screwed once or twice.

    tl;dr, We'll enjoy Eva our way. Please don't make a fuss over it.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)21:39 No.8498634
    > Honestly, I detest the idea of conventional military forces being worth anything at all besides providing N2 bombs, as it is contradictory to the source material.

    Then you will he happy to know that conventional forces simply cannot by any means harm an Angel so long as its AT Field is up (though if its AT Field is notoriously weak, they might get a very small window of opertunity to take a stab at dealing cosmetic damage through sheer volume of fire).

    However, keep in mind that the pallet gun is designed to fire large tank shells rapid fire. Obviously, it was still a crap weapon (a tradition that Adeptus Evangelion's Pallet Gun honorably upholds). But it CAN harm an Angel under the right circumstances.

    If the Angel's AT Field is completely neutralized, multiple tank squadrons firing at once have a decent chance of inflicting small amounts of damage on the target. Though you still need the Evas to lower the AT Field in the first place and any Angel worth its Core can wide out whole tank battalions in a round or two.
    >> NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm 03/09/10(Tue)21:39 No.8498642
    It depends on the angel. Some went down like mooks, others just needed something to distract it before the super weapon could fire... etc
    >> GDWF 03/09/10(Tue)21:41 No.8498662
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    BMJ I apologize but its just getting a lil' irritating.

    Look, this is all fine and dandy. Glad to know your opinion now, You have two options. Either pack up and leave for greener pastures. Or, given you're natural ability to be so verbose in statements, provide OC to be used in the release. We know its going against the grain yes. BUT, we honestly don't mind as its a fun game thats free and made by a rather stellar guy.

    So please, Shape up, or ship out.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:41 No.8498667
    but eva is a genre deconstruction, still at some basic level a giant robot show.

    also i can't wait for a finished ver 2.0, the first adaptus was great.
    >> Sachiel 03/09/10(Tue)21:45 No.8498714
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    Remember Matarael? The spider guy? Yeah, poor sod had no clue what he was doing I'm telling you. His older Rebuild sibling wasn't much better, but at least he didn't go down to freakin' Pallet Guns.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:46 No.8498729
    “EVA’s pretty much put the grunts out of a job. Didn’t put us out of a job. Hell I miss the days when it was just people killing people. Bullets. Shrapnel. Blast damage. Now. Now we go out, pop the top and we can find stuff that just don’t plain make sense. I mean I can patch up a burn or just about anything. But goo? What the F*&k?”
    - A Medic with the 21st NERV SF Company

    “We ride shotgun but we may as not be there. Hell half the time our transports get swatted down. We haven’t won an engagement on the ground period. We can draw fire or jump on a hostile but that’s just a death sentence. This whole thing is a death sentence.

    Why we go out there? There’s a lot of us, left over from when a human’s biggest concern with another human with a gun. What are we gonna do? Sit here while these kids get trashed and stamped on while their in that pod? No. Their more important. So we buy the medic’s time to stabilize them and get them on the bird. Then? Well.. that’s up to you.”
    - A Soldier with the 21st NERV SF Company
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:48 No.8498748
    Don't misunderstand me. I'm not here to wage war on your idea or anything; I just wanted to voice my opinion of the flavor and writing going on here. There is potential in the idea, which is why I thought the idea of a MP Version Eva would be decent. I hate to compare anything Eva related to GL, but it would be like making Grapals off the original Gurren Lagann design.

    Also, have you seen the anime Rahxephon?
    It's not related to Eva, but perhaps some useful concepts could be borrowed, considering that in plot structure and themes it is often regarded as a "positive" Eva. The concept of overtechnology appears in a lot of anime. If the capacity to outright kill Angels before they self-destruct is higher in AE, then there will be more Angel specimens for NERV to examine. Since EVA are fundamentally similar to Angels, it would be possible to make an overtechnology device on a vat-culture angel to allow normals to pilot it. (Like the Vermilion in Rahxephon.)

    I understand that the mood of the series was oppressive and it put off a lot of people, but that was purposeful. Eva was never meant to be a straightforward alien invasion series, and it's too bad you didn't enjoy it, but don't expect from the series something it was never meant to provide you with. If however you want to change it into such a story, then I'm definitely fine with the idea.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)21:50 No.8498790
    > I do seriously wonder if concepts such as the Instrumentality made it intact to the game.

    It did, and I think the way that Third Impact is handled in AdEva will be more or less indicative of AdEva as a whole.

    The entire final chapter of Adeptus Evangelion is "Third Impact and You". It describes what Third Impact is, and several ways in which it may be triggered depending on whether Adam, Lilith, or both are awakened and by who and through what means.

    Human Instrumentality is clearly one of the possible Third Impacts. But it is not the ONLY one. You might screw up and have the Angels revive Adam. And Angel might get to Lilith and, in a suicidal act, fuse with her in an attempt to kill all Lilith Based life on the planet. Lilith might wake up and decide that this whole "humanity" thing was so not what she was planning on making its not even funny and decide to start over. And those are just a few.

    That is the Adeptus Evangelion I created. Anyone who wished to make a carbon copy of the Evangelion series as their campaign will find that all of the tools are there for it, though finding players who won't deviate from the script may be difficult.
    However, AdEva also gives you more than enough freedom to play a game that is the same world, but a different story.

    I did not inject GL into Eva, though making a hotblooded pilot is an option. It might even be a fun character. But that character STILL would have to worry about going insane, dissolving into tang or simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time when Ramiel decides to fuck you and everything near you.
    >> NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm 03/09/10(Tue)21:51 No.8498794
    Anno seems to hate his original idea, see every review of 2.0.

    What's this? Ideas can change? TOS was a MILITAR RAR FUCK YEAR and TNG was more TALK AND DIPLOMACY and DS9 was BACKWOODS DEALING

    To be honest this is a system. This system as of now can EASLY play canon eva, but a system that could just do Canon eva would be boring. The system should have choices (like wacky MSV units ala Anima/2.0/Girlfriend of Steel/SRW), and the core setting is some alternate Eva, not Eva TV.
    >> Nerv Boston 03/09/10(Tue)21:52 No.8498814

    I just threw ol' Eye Spider at them this week actually. Threw in some EMP as suggested, and it added a nice touch. He actually did a ton of damage, 'cause once you've knocked an Eva down and are right on top of it, you don't need to roll to hit to drool on it. This was the first time an Eva has been damaged enough to retreat and go back down the shaft.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:52 No.8498816
    Yeah, some Angels were vulnerable to "small" arms fire. I've often suspected that Matereal's death was just a method of allowing the computer virus Angel to infect the MAGI because it was so easy. There certainly were exceptions, and the consistency of how difficult a battle versus an Angel was varied considerably. Though that doesn't change the fact that even with an AT field down, usually the only thing that effected most Angels was a Progressive Knife directly to the red core.
    >> NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm 03/09/10(Tue)21:52 No.8498828
    but... evas are already vat grown angels mp evas are the logical conclusion of the angel's abilities..
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:54 No.8498849
    And forever after was that Eva known as "Unit XX, The Walking Spitoon"...
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:56 No.8498867
    Well, my point in mentioning overtechnology is that it's a method to allow normals to interface with an EVA-style organic weapon. I can't see it being anywhere near as powerful as an actual EVA, and I imagine they might be half the size of a normal one, but like the Vermilion, it could be a deadly weapon if there are "mook" mini angels or angels with multiple bodies. That's the closest I could see mass military coming to be effective. The idea might also be a way of bypassing the scary level of control Dummy Plugged MP Evas offer to SEELE, explaining why their plan did not succeed in its original form-NERV bypassed them with independent research.

    It also adds potential for some really horrific situations, such as an Angel attempting to re-absorb its material with the pilot still inside.
    >> NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm 03/09/10(Tue)21:58 No.8498885
    why would we use that over the plug system which is known and works. there is ENOUGH of an issue of being consumed, why would we GIVE away pilots?
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)21:59 No.8498918
    Blargh, what am I saying?

    I should have remembered this sooner, but even the armor an EVA wears qualifies as Overtechnology. Restraining devices and such through which human beings can control the EVA are necessary for the pilots to synchronize with them. (Though perhaps that is superfluous in the case of Shinji and 01)

    In any case, I do like the idea of inferior MP as it's a strong staple of any semi-realistic super robot anime, such as Gunbuster and Shin Getter Robo.
    >> NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm 03/09/10(Tue)22:02 No.8498961
    Yeah, its why I went the way of Unit.. 03, but more METAL ARMOR instead of wheels, rather than some bizarre bio-interface. That bio interface would make a great one off for a mission. It works well, then OH GOD THE ANGEL MANIFESTS INSIDE THE BIO INTE IA MA NGEEENGLLEEEEEE

    You have to fight an Eva that knows all of your tactics, is your friend, taunts you, and more or less is evolving at a rate that makes your average angel look like Creationism.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)22:03 No.8498966
    So, is it uncommon for players to have to retreat?
    Granted, the way people reacted to Shinji and Co., I'm sure a lot of players would fill the cockpits with insipid Kaminas and Simons, but assuming the pilots have low enough sanity to be seriously afraid, I would assume the game system is lethal enough to quickly incapacitate an EVA whose player fucks up.
    >> Sachiel 03/09/10(Tue)22:16 No.8499156
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    Seriously? You go man, thumbs up!

    My sister here is hoping the next encounter goes just as well, preferably with more collateral damage!


    Retreating slows down gameplay considerably, and many players like to take the "Suicidal" drawback, which makes it so that ODs have to spend fate on forcing them to pull back, and they need a special talent for it.

    In fact, I believe one of the current groups had the OD telling everyone to do a tactical retreat, but they pressed on regardless.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)22:26 No.8499280
    I thought so, but retreating is always an ugly option in the eyes of players, so I can definitely understand why they'd do that. I just remember all the times Asuka and Rei were fucking useless and it all fell down on poor Shinji's shoulders.

    I understand that NERV is substantially more competent at combined arms and tactics when players and DMs have influence over the setting, though, and they certainly aren't necessarily more well-adjusted pilots if they have the "suicidal" trait, jesus.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)22:48 No.8499585
    I have a feeling that things will turn out badly in the end.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)22:52 No.8499647
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    Don't be like that. Here, have this adorable picture of a gray render to cheer yourself up.

    There! Now no more vague predictions of misfortune, mkay?
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)22:54 No.8499684
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    >> LawfulNice !tGTXNZuKLM 03/09/10(Tue)22:54 No.8499699
    Don't worry. Be happy!

    And remember that nothing ever turns out well in Eva. You are already dead and nothing can stop it. The world is fucked and the human race is doomed. If you're lucky you'll die quickly instead of slowly and painfully, and maybe you won't lose your soul to a horrible machine-monster.

    Have a nice day!
    >> Shas'o R'myr !!TZikiEEr0tg 03/09/10(Tue)22:56 No.8499721

    You now know that in 4th Edition Gray Renders are Chaotic Evil unstoppable juggernaughts of hate and rage, with short attention spans and the inability to make personal connections.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)22:58 No.8499757
    This just in: 3.5 Gray Renders proven superior!

    Seriously, how can you resist that level of d'aawwww?
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)22:59 No.8499766
    You mean to tell me that the semi-gentle if rather stupid killer lizard analogue of Yogi Bear is now a stereotypical forest monster?

    I have withheld judgment on 4e until this point, but this has forced my hand.
    >> Black Mesa Janitor 03/09/10(Tue)23:00 No.8499795
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    This makes me indescribably sad.

    You have ruined this thread for me, Shas'o.

    >> Nerv Boston 03/09/10(Tue)23:03 No.8499845

    Well, they were going to retreat from Ramiel until SOMEONE went berserk and made it impossible to retreat without leaving him to die. Take this as a lesson: never air drop several turns ahead of the rest of the crew directly on top of the Angel.
    >> Sachiel 03/09/10(Tue)23:04 No.8499869
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    No, don't do that!

    Have an adorable girl who also happens to be a monster hellbent on the destruction of humanity, to cheer you up!
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:14 No.8500019
    On the subject of Ramiel, and his canon death-by-particle beam:
    Back of the envelope calculations show that a 10-megaton thermonuke within half a mile of any angel in the series would vaporize it.
    Ten megatons being the lower bound of required power to guarantee a kill, plus a hefty order of magnitude of breathing room.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:18 No.8500078

    Does this take into account the fact that the Angel has a bubble of reality-warp around it with which it gets to decide certain physical laws effecting it?

    AT Fields can be kind of a bitch like that.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:21 No.8500139
    Yes, yes it does.
    Ramiel was killed by, at most, 2 terajoules of energy, over an area of at least a square meter.
    That's not terribly much energy.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:36 No.8500455
    Let's start from the top:
    We have Ramiel.
    Ramiel dies against a glorified LHC firing with all the energy in japan, which adds up to, at most, 200 gigawatts, 300 if we're being generous and assume MASSIVE amounts of new development.
    The gun takes 10-15 seconds to charge up for a shot. This gives us an upper bound of 4.5 terajoules, though more likely 3.
    A megaton is 4.2 petajoules, or a thousand times that upper bound; at point-blank, Ramiel would be a loosely associated vapour.
    At ten megatons, Ramiel wouldn't need to be closer than half a kilometer and would still be crispy.
    A Tsar Bomba operating at maximum design specifications (100+ megatons) would kill any angel we see in-series within a kilometer of its detonation, no questions asked.
    Delivery of those bombs is another question, but one which wouldn't be too terribly difficult to answer.
    And frankly, it's not like Evas themselves do less collateral damage. Well, less than the Tsar maybe.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:46 No.8500635
    Assuming a pure fission bomb rated at 100 megatons, you'd only need about 4.2 tonnes of U-235, less than half the weight of an MOAB, for instance. Using modern engineering and boosted fusion design, you could probably get a hundred megaton bomb in under 10 tonnes.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:46 No.8500639
    Only anti-matter weapons can penetrate an AT field, which is why conventional weapons are totally fucking useless. Even the N2 Mine, which is an anti-matter nuke, will only disable the Angel for a certain amount of time.
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    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:49 No.8500701
    Nowhere in the series does it say anything about antimatter, except in the mention of "positron" guns.
    N2 mines are, as far as anyone can tell, just really big conventional warheads, MOAB-style, no nuclear physics or antimatter involved.
    Anything with sufficient energy would have sufficed.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:51 No.8500736
    And guess what is the only weapon that penetrates an Angel's active AT field? The positron rifle.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:52 No.8500755
    You mean ASIDE from conventional warheads? Like the ones that melted Israfel and blew off Sachiel's face?
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:53 No.8500774
    Ah. And checking in the Adeptus Evangelion book, BMJ has the description of the N2 Mine as being a crude anti-matter weapon. And considering all the work he has done on this so far, I'm fairly sure it's accurate.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:55 No.8500806
    Conventional weapons only did damage after the Evas got in close, within neutralization range. I don't remember exactly if the show made a big hassle of that, though, but that is what was going on.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:56 No.8500814
    Besides, you're missing an important point: even if we assume that for whatever stupid reason, only antimatter can somehow magically pierce the AT field, (I dunno, lol, maybe it has to do with particle spin?) what's stopping you from just building Bolos instead of Evas?
    Also, you're forgetting that Gamma Rays colliding with matter release a cascade of electron-positron pairs, and nukes generate a shitton of gamma rays.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:57 No.8500827
    >>after the Evas got close
    >>Sachiel getting N2 mined five minutes into the series, before we even SEE an Eva.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:58 No.8500849

    Think of if this way: if they have positron BEAM technology, surely they have the vastly simpler positron (or some other antimatter) BOMB technology.

    And since N2 mines have hella payload and no radiation... its not exactly a huge leap.

    Hell, with confirmed in-universe antimatter tech, it would actually take more work for them to come up with an N2 weapon that WASNT antimatter based that worked like that.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:59 No.8500863
    It's fanwank. Officially, we know nothing about the N2 mines, not even what they look like. And frankly, given how little firepower they can bring to bear, I'd be surprised if they were more than glorified conventional bombs.
    I always just bought the explanation that they were the clean alternative to nukes, post-nuclear-war.
    >> Anonymous 03/09/10(Tue)23:59 No.8500868
    Yay science.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:00 No.8500895
    CERN has had antimatter beam technology for decades.
    The problem is that we can't generate much or store it for long.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:01 No.8500898
    You're insisting on applying real world physics to make believe entities that don't play by those rules. If Angels could have been destroyed with simple application of giant bombs, then they would have been. They weren't, ergo, they couldn't be.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:01 No.8500906
    That's lazy science.
    >> SHORT WRITEFAGGOTRY. Alebak !!GutpvEm2fJX 03/10/10(Wed)00:02 No.8500924
    "We can watch the Angel fights on the monitors down in Engineering, you know. Some people might think that its not right, that its like watching a gladiator fight or whatever. Its not like that, at least for us. We've been worked ragged keeping those Evas and their equipment fighting fit, so the higher ups let us watch to see it all in action in real time.

    At the start, you're nervous obviously, fate of the Earth at stake and all, but then you see those kids turn it around, and you cant help but cheer em on. Remember that last attack? When the second unit finished the Angel off with a hard left jab and a uppercut? Yeah, the military big wigs and the egg heads all nodded their heads, wrote notes down, and assessed the damages. But us down in Engineering? We went nuts, totally. There were party hats, noise makers, and I think one guy had a stereo blasting what I can only describe as victory music.

    Believe me, we worry just as much as everyone else, but when you've got a hand in it, you get your own satisfaction out of victory, even if you're not in the cockpit."
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:04 No.8500960
    Ah, and you're making the assumption that antimatter somehow magically has no fallout or radiation.
    Newsflash: antimatter is as messy, if not messier, than a conventional nuke.
    The amount of energy released by any antimatter warhead of significant scale would cause the generation of massive amounts of unstable particles, quark soup, and nasty, messy cascades of matter and antimatter moving just below c for hundreds of miles around.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:05 No.8500968
    It is. Your point? If Angels could be beaten by big bombs, then there would be no point to the entire setting.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:06 No.8501003
    The only reason that the Angels WEREN'T destroyed by liberal application of the world's nuclear arsenal was that SEELE didn't want them to be.
    They needed the Evas to advance their plans, and it just so happened that Evas could destroy angels with slightly less collateral damage than the necessary application of nuclear energy would entail.
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    This is just perfect for the Upgrades section!
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:11 No.8501100
    The Semi canon Jet Alone Prime was capable of breaking AT fields.

    with a giant fucking sledgehammer.

    it managed to beat the mass produced EVAs that ruined asuka's shit by itself
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:12 No.8501117

    I thought the primary output of a matter/antimatter reaction was photons (ie: light). Granted, in a enough quantity to melt you face off, but still.

    And the N2 DID have something like a large-scale EMP effect. Thats easily explained by the after-effects of an antimatter explosion. Less easily explained by a scaled up Moab.

    I'm all for the N2 being the post-nuke nuke. But i dont see what that 'conventional' explosive cant be antimatter.

    besides, when combined with the positron weapon it combines for a nice, solid theory of what can and cant get past an AT Field.

    It probably isn't the greatest science, but neither are giant robots in general. Wouldn't something that big and heavy sink into the ground anyway?
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:12 No.8501122
    That... is actually a very good point. Were the Angels never hit with nukes because they were immune or because SEELE didn't want them to be destroyed so easily? I can see it being both ways. I suppose it'd be up to individual GMs (or fans) to come up with their own explanation, as I doubt the show will have any useful information on this.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:16 No.8501170

    Selee wanted the angels dead. They couldn't proceed with human instrumentality until the Angel threat was removed.

    Granted, they had some ancient prophecy that told them how it should go down in a general sense, but if they could have nuked the Angels away it would have solved their problems with more funding left over to dedicate to building the MP Evas to initiate Third Impact.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:17 No.8501187
    In regards to the crunch...Personally, I'd like to see some upgrades to military tech. I dunno, maybe Leman Russes and shit? At higher levels...Engels, or something similar?

    I'd also like to see some more melee weapons. I dunno, the progressive sword and gunblade EVA-01 is sometimes shown holding might be a good start, and maybe (this might be a tad weaboo of me) a SEED-ASS-esque positron sword?

    I'd contribute some fluff, buuut...I suck at writing.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/10/10(Wed)00:18 No.8501210
    rolled 1, 2, 5 = 8

    I always thought that an AT-Field could be penetrated by any sufficiently powerful weapon. All you would have to do is unleash so much energy that the Field could not deflect or absorb it all; whether you did that with a giant bomb or a giant beam mattered little. Massive explosions and pinpoint attacks could each penetrate a field, hence why both N2 Mines and Positron Beams were used against the Angels.

    In the case of the N2 Mine, so much energy was released in the vicinity that some 'leaked through' the Field. With the Beam Rifle, so much energy was confined to a single point that the Field could not dissipate it fast enough, and a hole was punched through it.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:19 No.8501211


    I mean, just... WOW.

    So it had a hammer that breached reality warp fields, and ignored regeneration?


    How the hell did Jet Alone Prime get the Lance of Longinus? And why was it a hammer at the time?
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:20 No.8501229
    I never liked the idea of an AT field's physical manifestation at the Newtonian level being anything more than a basic force field.
    Not so much a solid wall of energy as a like a White Hole of sorts for any energy trying to get to its center.
    Basically, imagine the center of an AT field as a mountain standing in an open plain, and anything fired at it as a bowling ball being rolled up the mountain.
    From the plain below, it's hard to get to the top, but from another mountain, suddenly the playing field is equalized and there's no resistance anymore.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:22 No.8501250
    That's pretty much always been my interpretation, too.
    >> Sachiel 03/10/10(Wed)00:22 No.8501256
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    There is more variety in melee weapons, including the possibility of creating weapons similar to the false lances used by the MP Evas.

    As for the conventional forces, the OD can buy a few upgrades for them, and I think the TRAIDENT will be statted, quite possibly the best weapon a regular soldier could pilot.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:25 No.8501299
    Slightly off the direction of conversation, but I never cared much for the whole Jet Alone design. It was cool looking in its way, but functionally...always irked me a bit.

    I mean, it had its reactor's control rods sticking out of its back. All some canny angel/eva would have to do is snap a few off and SUDDENLY, MELTDOWN!

    Which makes me wonder why Shinji didn't just shove them back down with Unit 01 when the thing went for a walk.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:28 No.8501335
    Shinji is not terribly well educated for an SF protagonist.
    Misato knows nothing about nuclear physics.
    Ritsuko planted the virus in the first place.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/10/10(Wed)00:29 No.8501357
    rolled 3, 6, 6 = 15

    Jet Alone had internal control rods. Misato tried to push them back in.

    So. Were the spines a second set of control rods, or something else entirely?
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:33 No.8501418

    they had to have been heat sinks of some kind.

    the only other alternative is that they were there to hold the control rods in place when inserted. which would be really, really dumb.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:33 No.8501428
    Probably a second set. Of course they could also have been a locking mechanism for the internal rods, which might explain why they stayed fully extended the whole time it was running.

    And now I'm imagining the back rods moving in and out as the thing's power requirements change, like it's breathing or something. Fuck, that'd be cool...
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:37 No.8501496
    >>antimatter is as messy, if not messier, than a conventional nuke.

    But do the effects persist for long periods of time, or do they settle down fairly quickly?
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:39 No.8501537
    >>Fuck, that'd be an engineering pain in the ass...

    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:41 No.8501570
    The effects of nukes last only a couples of months.
    Thermonukes have lasting, nasty fallout which can last decades.
    I dunno, lol, but with that amount of particle soup and various leptons and baryons flying every-which-way, you're bound to leave some lasting fallout.
    Oh, and give everyone within a hundred miles lethal radiation poisoning.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:41 No.8501579
    We're talking about a ten story tall semi-autonomous combat drone with a fission plant in its back, ideally intended to fight in urban areas without smashing/irradiating them.

    The whole thing is one giant pain in the ass.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/10/10(Wed)00:46 No.8501687
    rolled 6, 3, 4 = 13

    Not to mention that it is intended to fight and defeat Angels, yet has no visible means of doing so. No AT-Field, no giant beam gun. Which makes me wonder what it would have looked like and been armed with if the project had run to completion.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)00:52 No.8501793
    Probably progressive claws and some kind of defensive screen projectors, though they'd almost certainly be weaker than an AT field even if they got them working. Thought just in terms of cost effectiveness a souped-up reactor and a positron rifle seems more likely.

    Shame they weren't cranked out in time to meet the mass-produced evas, that would've been a hell of a fight.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)01:12 No.8502133
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    >>it managed to beat the mass produced EVAs that ruined asuka's shit by itself

    Keep in mind she was on low battery and alone, but still managed to put down every one of them in about 20 seconds each until REGENERATIONHAX and lack of battery meant she had no feasible way to permanently win... and LOLLANCEOFLONGINUS pulled a cheap shot.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)01:16 No.8502207
    The MP evas were designed for rapin' and murderin'. I doubt any other Eva could have stood up to all of them.
    A giant, fully decked out Jet Alone, however?
    Remember the way that thing kept walking like Unit 01 wasn't even there?
    Now imagine that much power, fully equipped for battle and with actual guidance.
    Hell yeah.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)01:24 No.8502347
    >>The MP evas were designed for rapin' and murderin'. I doubt any other Eva could have stood up to all of them.

    And even with a stacked deck against her Asuka did an admirable job until getting cheapshotted. The MP Evas' performance in End of Evangelion was pretty dismal, honestly.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)01:43 No.8502588
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:08 No.8502935
    Seriously. Lord only knows how bad their asses would have been kicked if Shinji had gotten his shit together in a more timely fashion and gone to help. Could have at least brought Asuka another umbilical so she could get back to rippan and tearan.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:12 No.8502991
    He never did get his shit together. Even after he finally got in 01, as soon as he saw what was left of Asuka he just started screaming and going nuts. Even some revenge killing would have been nice at that point.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:13 No.8503013
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    So is there any way to get... this from the rules?
    Because I have even less idea of what's going on than usual, but it looks like, through Unit 01, Shinji Ikari started third impact through sheer force of will.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/10/10(Wed)02:17 No.8503068
    rolled 5, 5, 3 = 13

    Well, as part of his 'stopping Third Impact' deal, he did bring her back. That's something.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:21 No.8503123
    Course he then proceeded to climb on top of her and start choking her--AGAIN--which was kind of a dick move.

    Speaking of people and the bringing back thereof, was it ever stated who else came back from TI? I know Rei said something to the effect of "Those with a sufficiently strong will (or individuality or something) will come back," but I don't recall anything beyond that.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:21 No.8503125
    Didn't she have his Mom's eyes or something?

    Also, choking.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/10/10(Wed)02:25 No.8503158
    rolled 2, 6, 4 = 12

    Everyone should have the ability to come back. Seeing the state of the world, though, I don't think many of them would.

    The eyes were the same color as always. The orange light just made them look a bit different.

    Also, as far as the choking goes, at least it means he feels something. He could have just walked away without a single glance in her direction. But no, he attempted, once again, to murder her. Because he hates her. And she hates him. And that's just the way it is.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:26 No.8503174
    Don't forget, that even after Unit 02 got disemboweled and was out of power, Asuka was able to make it move through sheer -hatred-. ...If they hadn't tossed that Lance through Unit 02's arm, you'd better believe it was going to get up, take the Lance that had gone through its head, and begin round two.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:27 No.8503181
    How many times did he try to murder her, again?
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:27 No.8503190
    >>Also, as far as the choking goes, at least it means he feels something. He could have just walked away without a single glance in her direction. But no, he attempted, once again, to murder her. Because he hates her. And she hates him. And that's just the way it is.

    Odd, that she didn't try to kill him back, but just let him choke her.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:29 No.8503208
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    He's better in the Manga, though, pic related
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:30 No.8503226
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    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:31 No.8503245
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    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:31 No.8503247
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:33 No.8503262
    See, that's how it's done. Maybe if he'd tried that in the show his girlfriend/nemesis wouldn't have got her shit kicked in.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/10/10(Wed)02:33 No.8503271
    rolled 1, 6, 4 = 11

    At least twice. Probably more, off-camera.

    She touched his face, lightly. Didn't even slap him. Perhaps she was expecting it, was glad to know that he still hated her, like always. He brought her back for a reason, so he could be the one to kill her.

    Huh. There are actually ways to make EoE even more disturbing than it was supposed to be.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:35 No.8503285
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    And then there's nothing.
    I named the pictures Turning Point, because even though there were other deviations, (Like God-hand Gendou) this seems to be where Shinji actually makes a different decision. (He even made it before things got bad for Asuka), and makes me think things will turn out different this time around.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:46 No.8503427
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    Also, was I the only one who started to hear 'The Beast' start playing in the third picture?
    Pic, while interesting, unrelated.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:54 No.8503530
    It's even weirder that he then proceeded to not kill her, which apparently annoyed her.

    I've heard of love-hate relationships before, but this shit's just twisted.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)02:56 No.8503575
    He choked her in his dreams to which she just laughed at him. The reason he was choking her then is to see if she was real. He brought her back for the sole reason that he she was the person he wanted to see most. Not because he hated her.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/10/10(Wed)03:00 No.8503622
    rolled 6, 3, 5 = 14

    Presumably, since she made it to EoE with only minor injuries, he always stopped just short of actually killing her, which only pissed her off more. Typical Shinji, not even enough of a man to finish the job. So he kept going, attempted murder every time he felt the need. And she kept coming back, goading him into choking the life out of her because she only really felt alive when he was killing her.

    They both want, more than anything, to be alone, just like their greatest desire is to be together, loved by another person. Asuka is suicidal. Shinji is homicidal. But despite their best efforts, neither has the will to accomplish their final goal. So they live, stalking a ruined world, existing in a prolonged state of unlimited hatred and self-loathing.

    They're both in hell, and they always will be.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/10/10(Wed)03:02 No.8503652
    rolled 2, 4, 5 = 11

    That is an alternative interpretation. It might be better. It might be correct. But I like my EoE like I like my coffee, a black pit of despair from which there is no escape.

    And covered in bees.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)03:08 No.8503735
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    Bees, you say?
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)03:11 No.8503771
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    I take it that you're not too impressed with the above pictures then?
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/10/10(Wed)04:47 No.8504819
    rolled 2, 5, 3 = 10

    Connection failure. Terribly sorry. Here is the post I would have made:

    Bees. You know how to make your players love you? Send them an Angel made of bees. Its entire body, all bees, with the core split between them. Bees with AT-Fields. And if just one of them makes it to Terminal Dogma, game over.

    Makes you wish you'd invested in Positron Napalm.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)04:55 No.8504905
    You are a magnificent bastard and I wish to have your bee-children.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/10/10(Wed)04:58 No.8504926
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    rolled 2, 1, 6 = 9

    I cannot, in good conscience, allow that to happen. To unleash a plague of hybrid bees upon the world would be tantamount to condoning the genocide of all Earth species.

    I would have less of a problem with regular children.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)05:08 No.8505005
    Dang, I never get to unleash a good apocalypse.

    Well, back to the drawing board I suppose.
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)05:20 No.8505111
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    Hi again!
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/10/10(Wed)05:31 No.8505204
    rolled 5, 3, 2 = 10

    I'm assuming it was you who made that thread?
    >> Anonymous 03/10/10(Wed)05:49 No.8505348
    Yep. Didn't quite work out though.
    >> ★ Subprocessor DM 03/10/10(Wed)05:51 No.8505362
    rolled 2, 6, 3 = 11

    Sorry to hear that. Good concept, though.

    I was tempted to put Kamina in every slot.

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