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    110 KB Planes and Mercs XX op again !XQ6W0CNp/o 04/08/10(Thu)20:41 No.9070735  
    Op again, just got back from work, Steve left an email, I'll post it momentarily.

    I wanted to know if you guys thought I should get a new plane, like a Early Hornet. But since we have the Russian discount, is there an equivalent aircraft in the Russian inventory, that is good multi-role?
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)20:44 No.9070789
    The Su-33 and MiG-29K would be comparible to the Super Hornet.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)20:44 No.9070797
    Oh fuck yes!

    I have been waiting for this!

    But I don't know what the Russian Hornet plane would be.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)20:45 No.9070807
    lol, i just saw a thread mentioning the lack of this thread, clicked refresh, and lo and behold here it is

    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)20:45 No.9070829
    probably a fake, op doesn't use a tripcode.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)20:47 No.9070862
    You could also get a Mirage 2000.
    >> Psyker Ted 04/08/10(Thu)20:48 No.9070892
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    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)20:49 No.9070912

    I see no reason why the F-35 cannot, it is mass produced as fuck.

    go with the F35b though.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)20:50 No.9070933
    The worst version? Why?

    Also: Cost. For what it can do, the F-35 is overpriced.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)20:51 No.9070949
    F-4 Phantom here.

    Not only does the 21 suck, every mig ever sucks.

    and being european does not make it okay to like the mig.

    Russians are bad guys, end of story bro.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)20:55 No.9071022

    Because the F-35b is most likely going to be the first aircraft with a Thel pod replacing the gun.
    >> Psyker Ted 04/08/10(Thu)20:57 No.9071056
    So, I had a dream. Of a long range strike fighter. Stealth probably. I don't know. The reason for it's existence?


    Imagine a trillionaire who's set up an automated airbase secretly somewhere. Ah. Let's say the amazon.

    He flies out, and simply cruises the worlds skys, flying around, searching for the worlds air powers. Once found, he randomly engages into dogfights with these pilots. Dropping cryptic messages and other such plot thickening hints.

    All in all, he becomes the ghost of the skies.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)20:58 No.9071075
    That's the plot for stealth made worse by an injection of Cobra Commander and bullshit japanese anime character conventions.
    >> Psyker Ted 04/08/10(Thu)20:59 No.9071111


    A squadron of ace pilots in outdated planes, trying to fight the worlds airforces with TEAMWORK?
    >> Blacksheepcannibal 04/08/10(Thu)20:59 No.9071119
    Russian doesn't really do multi-role, not the same way the US does (F-16, F-18, JSF).

    Mind you, they've done amazing things with the Su-27 airframe, and lots of their aircraft have variants for related tasks - Su-25 and the MiG-23 for example.

    I really think the next step up from an F-4, in the Russian direction, is gonna be either a Su-27 variant, a Su-24, or a Su-25, depending if you want multi-role, F-111 analogue, or A-10 analog (sans poor flight profile).
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)20:59 No.9071125
    Massive WIN!
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:00 No.9071144

    actually I think its the bullshit weaboo plot of Acecombat 5.

    I remember when the game was trying to be a simulator with mercenaries.

    it was called aircombat

    and the F22 was over powered as fuck.

    as it should be.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:03 No.9071189

    I can see it now.

    a Korean war Saber shoots down a hundred migs and troll faces russia.

    Russian gets you on the phone and bawws.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:03 No.9071200
    Iron Eagle 3 bro

    get your shit straight
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:05 No.9071227
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    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:06 No.9071243
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    Buy a Su-34. It's essentially a strike-Su-27 that you can get up, Stretch your legs and then microwave yourself some lunch. It's even got a bathroom and a fold-down bed.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:09 No.9071298
    Stick with the f-4, put your money into upgrades and weapons
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:09 No.9071309
    The Phantom is good, but it is tired. Time to move on!
    >> Blacksheepcannibal 04/08/10(Thu)21:12 No.9071352
    And massaging seats.

    Funny to know enough to point out the parts that picture is missing.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:15 No.9071417
    Oh great, the /k/ommandos are raiding us again.

    Why don't we have janitors?
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:18 No.9071484
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    A MiG-29K would be the perhaps best option. Though, be aware, OP, that this would be transition from a flying brick to one pretty fucking agile dogfighter. Also, you gotta learn and love AA-10 Archers combined with a helmet-mounted sight. Or try for a MiG-29SMT-2, which is basically an older -29 model upgraded to MiG-33 standards in most regards and with compatibility with western ordnance and avionics built in from the get-go. The Russians have by now upgraded more than 400 of their old MiG-29 to that version by now.

    >every mig ever sucks.

    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:19 No.9071495
    Buy a B-1B Lancer and upgrade it with air-to-air missiles, phased radar and better engines.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:19 No.9071500
    >AA-10 Archers

    Sukhoi's going to rip you a new one for that...
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:20 No.9071513
    Dale Brown is an idiot. So is the megafortress.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:22 No.9071561
    >The B-1R is a proposed replacement for the B-1B fleet.[52] Boeing's director of global strike integration, Rich Parke, was first quoted about the "B-1R" bomber in Air Force Magazine.[53] Parke said the B-1R (R for "regional") would be a Lancer with advanced radars, air-to-air missiles, and Pratt & Whitney F119 engines (originally developed for the F-22 Raptor).[53] Its new top speed of Mach 2.2 would be purchased at the price of a 20% reduction of the B-1B's range.[53] This proposal would involve modifying existing aircraft.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:24 No.9071604
    >Sukhoi's going to rip you a new one for that...

    Ahh, fuck. Fucking numbers block. AA-11 it is.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:27 No.9071675
    Yeah, and funnily, nobody is willing to even think about buying that shit. Why? Because it's still a fucking strategic bomber that makes a Phantom look like a goddamn Su-37 when it comes to agility. You try flying that blockhouse into air combat with someone bringing remotely modern russian long-range AAMs and he's gonna blow you to bits before you even get a shot off.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:29 No.9071714
    Heheheh. Boner.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:30 No.9071738
    You know that the R stands for nothing, other than making every current bone pilot demand that his congressman buy this plane.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:30 No.9071753
    Hell if op is going to that take advantage of the russian discount and buy a backfire
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:32 No.9071776

    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:32 No.9071800
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    God Tier.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:34 No.9071824
    You mean the plane that's slower, has a smaller bomb load, and is phyiscally larger than the B-1 is better than it? Well, alrighty then.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:35 No.9071870
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    Bone is small time.
    >> Psyker Ted 04/08/10(Thu)21:38 No.9071909

    A group of engineers rush to build a super plane, that can take on the latest series of super planes fielded by a rival nation. The pilot involved with the project is breaking down as time goes on, seeing his former co-pilots and friends all die to these new threats. At the deadline, the prototype is finished, and the pilot flies off to meet the enemy, only to come back in time to see a nuclear explosion wipe out his base?
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:39 No.9071935
    you're not even trying any more.

    Come on.
    >> Psyker Ted 04/08/10(Thu)21:41 No.9071996
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    Oh come on, that one was gold!
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:47 No.9072114
    Well if op wants a bomber for some reason a backfire is at least in the realm of possibility, trying to get a B-1 frame would probably be a little out of his price range. And who doesn't want a plane that can carry an AS-4
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)21:49 No.9072172
    what is planes and mercs?
    >> op again !XQ6W0CNp/o 04/08/10(Thu)22:07 No.9072535
    BlackFlag External Document #100359

    Mission Briefing “Ardent Gardener”
    Source: FSB (Russian Federal Security Service)
    Deployment: Gyandzha (Azerbaijan)
    Pancake: Gyandzha (Azerbaijan)
    Alternate: Nakhichevan (Azerbaijan)
    AAR: None
    AWACS: None
    CSAR: Spetznaz Team Omni, detached from Vympel (Vega Group)

    Contract Employer: Russian Federation

    Objective: Seed the targeted farms with Agent Amber.
    Secondary Objective: Destroy the railway bridge at +42° 1' 56.03", +43° 51' 20.59"
    Secondary Objective: Conduct a low level recon pass of the suspect airfield (+41° 37' 41.48", +45° 1' 54.30)
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:09 No.9072580
    >> op again !XQ6W0CNp/o 04/08/10(Thu)22:09 No.9072593
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    Let me start by saying excellent work on your previous outing, our satellite followups show that the station was heavily damaged. Intelligence and damage assessment believes that the station will not be operational for 18 or more months, if they can repair it at all. So far we have received no indications that the government has been able to figure out what happened, the official party line is a terrorist action. This has given them the freedom to further crackdown on the populace, heightening discontent. In addition, this further drain on Georgian power supply has decreased available power on the grid to the point that several low risk air defense radars are being cycled off during peak usage hours.
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    Moving on to your new tasking, we require you to distribute a chemical over these farmlands. The chemical agent is air dispersed from canisters that will be loaded onto your planes in a manner you decide. Maximum effectiveness demands a dispersal altitude of 3000 feet above the fields. Our technicians have informed me that while not optimal, lower release altitudes can be used, but will not achieve full dispersion. The canisters are multistage, and can be activated multiple times, spraying for preset bursts. I can tell the look on your faces what your questions are. No, the agent is not toxic in most cases to humans, with a less than 5% fatality rate when ingested or aspirated in sufficient quantity. It is a simple herbicide, that is all I am authorized to tell you, so no further questions as to why it's dispersal is required.
    >> op again !XQ6W0CNp/o 04/08/10(Thu)22:19 No.9072797
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    However, in addition to the chemical dispersal, we have secondary objectives. These are optional, but completion incurs a large bonus, paid in cash, to an account of your choosing. Firstly, we require you to weaken or destroy this railway bridge here, preferably shortly before the daily passenger train crosses it. We have placed our specialized 'chem trace' explosives at your disposal, should you choose to attempt destruction. We suspect that more perceived terrorism will escalate discontent amongst the citizenry.
    >> op again !XQ6W0CNp/o 04/08/10(Thu)22:20 No.9072823
    Secondly, we have identified this airfield, as having recently come into operation again. As you can see, the runway is being resurfaced, and several aircraft bunkers appear to be undergoing renovation. Unfortunately, that is the extent that our satellite recon has been able to identify. A low level pass with 360 degree cameras should allow us to gather valuable force reconnaissance, and would be invaluable in our campaign. Again, this is purely a secondary objective, but you would be amply rewarded for it.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:21 No.9072836
    Well, more of a chance for warcrimes. Any intel available on the unexpected fighters from the last mission? If not I strongly suggest trying to buy some
    >> op again !XQ6W0CNp/o 04/08/10(Thu)22:21 No.9072848
    HUMINT: Our agents have acquired the schedule of radar shutdowns, and have identified entry and exit points as well as times.
    ELINT: The train has been seeded with our version of a GPS locator. Via secure satcom, we can tell you the vehicle's eta to the bridge.
    SATINT: Limited. Air Defence garrisons are being mustered, training status progression unknown.
    Air Assets: Unknown
    Surface Assets: Unknown

    Threat Assessment: Medium. The Georgians are still reeling from their conflict with the Russian Federation. The morale of their military forces is at an all time low, and their air-defense forces are in shambles. Maintain a stealthy approach, and we believe you will be able to slip in and out with minimal risk. While the farms are most likely unguarded, we are not aware of secondary target preparedness.

    ROE: Do not fire unless fired upon, or if operational security would be compromised.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:23 No.9072886

    Goddammit Steve! This mission brief is fucking giving me a stiffy.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:25 No.9072928
    >preferably shortly before the daily passenger train crosses it

    Inb4 the train is slightly early that day and you destroy the whole train.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:26 No.9072950
    I think that is the intent either way. Otherwise they'd just want the bridge taken out.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:29 No.9073018

    ...good point.

    So how about it, OP. Your group has gained such a bad reputation you are now expected to kill civilians.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:30 No.9073042

    Yeah, the Russians bought them for a reason I guess. How does it feel to know you sold your soul, and killed hundreds for cold hard cash OP?
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:31 No.9073087

    They've killed for less before, shit, at least they're actually making money for killing civilians.

    And if your role is to kill as many innocents as possible, there is no way you can have collateral damage that you care about!
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:31 No.9073090
    I think its a little late for OP to worrying about either his rep or the blood on his hands
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:32 No.9073108

    I'll take "Less exhilarating than the Gs you pull AFTER you bomb the fuck out of civilians" for $500, Alex.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:34 No.9073148
    That is both accurate and horribly depressing. We may be killing more innocents but at least this time we're getting paid for it
    >> op again !XQ6W0CNp/o 04/08/10(Thu)22:39 No.9073285
    Yeah, we've been talking about that. The way steve explained it, atrocities happen, and their might be repercussions, although he didn't go into specifics, which is starting to annoy me. On the other hand, Scotch(character) is now dating a mechanic at our forward base, which is funny because she didn't speak english, and scotch doesn't speak her language. End result, Scotch gave up and dropped his pants while she was working on his Viggen. Apparently this worked, or at least she understood.

    Also Talking tjat we're not sure we can hit all the targets as a group, in the timeframe. We're thinking about splitting up to just do the primary objective. The farms are really far apart.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:43 No.9073395
    >>End result, Scotch gave up and dropped his pants while she was working on his Viggen. Apparently this worked, or at least she understood.

    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:44 No.9073438
    We require drawfaggotry of Scotch seducing his sexy Azerbaijanni mechanic under a sexy viggen.

    I picture Scotch as a fully bearded barrel chested five foot 8 angry scotsman.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:46 No.9073487
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    Never change /tg/

    Thank god this thread is around, it almost balances out the wave of shit on /tg/ right now.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:48 No.9073527
    Is anyone else concerned that the Russian handler basically said one in twenty people are going to die from your actions tonight? Lethality of 5% is pretty lethal.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:48 No.9073538

    You are right to ignore the train. The Herbicide I can understand but hitting that train is a line you don't want to cross. You killed innocents before but that was in battle and not intentional. If you actually make killing civilians the goal of the mission then you've crossed over from being a mercenary to being a hired thug.

    I recommend you contact Blackflag and begin making contingency plans in case the Russians betray you. You are doing a lot of dirty things for them and killing some foreign hired help is certainly not something beyond them.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:49 No.9073553
    >under a sexy viggen.
    Redundant wording is redundant
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:49 No.9073561
    What's awesome, and terrible, is that Russia apparently had a major role in sparking off a certain Asian revolution going on right now (gas price hike at a crucial time to tip the anger into full riot stage).

    And in OP's game, they're doing something very similar in Georgia.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:51 No.9073632
    I'm still convinced that Steve is running these missions as proxy battles for an actual black air force somewhere.

    Have we ever figured out where a guy knows so much about this shit, is pulling missions out from basically real world news, has access to military grade maps of hotzones, and apparently has extensive references on military equipment?
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:52 No.9073655
    Guess we'll know if someone missiles the queen victoria
    >> ViggenVixxxen 04/08/10(Thu)22:53 No.9073660
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    Don't have to tell me twice.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:53 No.9073668
    Not hitting the TRAIN, hitting the bridge. Surely they'll have time to see that in advance and stop.

    Extra money is always good.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:54 No.9073700
    Actually I read somewhere that a cargo ship recently dissapeared off the Somali coast but no ransom or sat photos have found it yet. Thing is, it was a North Korean vessel.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)22:55 No.9073736
    Well shit. Better not make any trips to georgia in the near future
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:17 No.9074249
    Notice the Russians said "shortly before it crosses"?
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:25 No.9074436
    Yeah, I spotted that too.

    Personally I'd avoid the train job.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:29 No.9074507
    How is there twenty threads about this shit?
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:29 No.9074513
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    Are you... REFUSING my job, Mr. Reynolds?

    This is... Disappointing. I had hoped your reputation was more than JUST a reputation.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:31 No.9074556
    How are there 5 threads about a Maid Quest? How are there 11 Dranon's Delights?

    See, I can ask questions to!
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:31 No.9074557
    OHMIOGOD! Excellent play on 'train job'!
    Massive amounts of win!
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:32 No.9074564
    They happen one at a time.
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    All I can say OP, is that you might have chosen the wrong employer...
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:40 No.9074776
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    Benefits are good though.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:41 No.9074783


    If you hear the word Shanyu, OP, GET THE FUCK OUT.
    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/08/10(Thu)23:41 No.9074784
    You've got 5 pilots OP. Make them count. If the fields are far apart split into three flights. The two flights of two aircraft make the rounds of most of the fields and then bug out. The fifth man, i'd suggest Hugs, hits one or two fields on his way to a fast low level fly by of the Airfield before bugging out. Hugs has got a better chance against anything that field might scramble and keeping the rest of you in pairs ensures that at least one of you will be capable of taking on anything that intercepts you. Ignore the train.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:42 No.9074816
    Single plane is death if they scramble more than one fighter.
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    Alright, we've established Op isn't going to off the train and they will split up to hit the farms.

    Possible threats? Recommendations?
    I think Op should think about a go for that mysterious airbase. No doubt a low level pass will stir up a hornets next but properly prepared Op could either cut and run or stand and fight.
    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/08/10(Thu)23:45 No.9074867
    Thats why i suggested Hugs if they choose to go single. He's got the best aircraft and the most AtA experience of the group.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:48 No.9074934

    Why not hold off on that pass till the rest of the flight has hit their targets? Once the strikes are complete they stage at a suitable location while Hugs makes his run. Whatever comes after Hugs will run into the entire flight.
    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/08/10(Thu)23:51 No.9075009

    Thats an option. I guess it depends on how long these windows in the radar net are open for. "Peak time" is probably gonna be during daylight hours or early evening so people will be up and about it spot OP's flight visually.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:55 No.9075095
    Everything needs to go down at the same time. Every minute after first contact makes maintaining surprise harder.
    >> Anonymous 04/08/10(Thu)23:58 No.9075149

    If they can avoid radar coverage the farm strikes won't raise a alarm fast enough to compromise them. Course avoiding radar coverage is another story.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)00:03 No.9075277
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    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)00:08 No.9075398
    Forget about the train. That's one line you shouldn't ever cross. Collateral damage is one thing, but attacking civilians on purpose means you're complete scum. Also, it means that the Russians will have you by the balls for-fucking-ever.

    Do the farms in two or three flights and try the airfield if you have enough time. And bring some AtA and ARAD ammo, just to be sure.

    Also, any news on wether you want to buy a new plane?
    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/09/10(Fri)00:15 No.9075568

    Therefore I again propose for Hugs to make a high speed low altitude pass of the airfield on his own and time his bug out to follow close on the tails of his wing mates so that if he does pick up a tail OP and the rest can turn back to assist.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)00:15 No.9075572
    Check first post of this thread...
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)00:17 No.9075597
    Paint Turkish insignia on your aircraft. And do low flyovers of the farming villages you spray.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)00:19 No.9075636
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    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/09/10(Fri)00:20 No.9075666
    Not a bad idea. Get the proper camo job done too while you're at it.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)00:23 No.9075741
    Drawing Turkey into this might be a bad idea. The russians seem to want people to think this is all an internal problem.
    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/09/10(Fri)00:24 No.9075774
    Ok so paint the aircraft up as Georgian then...that'll keep it "internal"
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)00:29 No.9075878
    >End result, Scotch gave up and dropped his pants while she was working on his Viggen. Apparently this worked, or at least she understood.

    I demand a rule 34 involving this situation.
    >> ELLIPSE 04/09/10(Fri)00:31 No.9075912
    >spots P&M thread, decides to randomly play GUESS THE PLANE...

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    This one?
    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/09/10(Fri)00:48 No.9076290
    Ok OP, since you've got access to the details and we don't we can't exactly tell you what to do with any certainty. Plus you've obviously proven yourselves capable of surviving without us so...yeah.

    If there's any consensus at all among the posters here in this thread its for hitting the primary target, ignoring the bridge, and seeing what can be done about get the airfield surveillance taken care of as quickly and cleanly as possible. Simple as that.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)00:50 No.9076313
    Take out the bridge, ignore the airfield. Less risk.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)00:54 No.9076403
    So much for consensus. This makes sense.

    Where are the targets located, anyone good with coordinates?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)00:57 No.9076461
    Who's flying what now?

    I thought Scotch had a mirage.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)00:59 No.9076500
    This, and have someone hit the bridge way before the train comes. Fuck what the Russians say about just before, you did the job and don't need to collateral civvies.

    Also, if hitting the bridge, I would NOT trust Russian intel on when the train is coming. I bet they'll tell you it's a few minutes later than it really is.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)00:59 No.9076508
    He has a Viggen.
    Judge is a Fulcrum
    Hugs a Flanker
    Baron a Phantom
    and Sandy a Vark.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:02 No.9076553
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    Scothc has a warbride!
    >> ELLIPSE 04/09/10(Fri)01:03 No.9076573

    I'm not THAT good...

    Am I close if I was thinking Russian Cargo/Transport plane of some sort?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:06 No.9076646
    Antonov An-22 Antei
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:08 No.9076689
    More commonly known by it's nato name, COCK.
    >> ELLIPSE 04/09/10(Fri)01:09 No.9076708


    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:18 No.9076846
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    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:27 No.9076991
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    Check out this lovely view of the bridge in question, from Google Maps.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:27 No.9076992
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:29 No.9077024
    And here's the "suspect airfield":

    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/09/10(Fri)01:31 No.9077049
    its so lovely its decided to hide from us...

    seriously I don't see it in that picture.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:31 No.9077061
    I like the way Steve's handling the Russians. Their motives are very clear. You guys are basically conducting a covert special-ops campaign for them to massively destabilize the Georgian government and encourage the populace to rise up in violence so that the Russians will be able to move in under the pretense of restoring order in an obviously failed state.

    You've already done major damage to the nation's power grid, most likely leading to at least brownouts. Anyone remember what happens in California eight years ago when Enron was price-fixing and causing brownouts? The people got super-pissed and recalled the governor.

    Next, you're going to be dropping some form of herbicide on a good proportion of Georgia's farmland. This will likely lead to food shortages in the future, creating massive discontent, rioting, and reliance on Russia for food aid.

    Destroying the bridge and the train with it, and making it look like terrorists will also go towards making it look like the government isn't in control of its own nation. Up to you guys if you want to do it.

    Killing civilians directly as an objective might cross a line for you guys. You're basically being hired to commit terrorist acts here.

    Though be aware, the deaths from famine from crop shortages might far exceed a single trainload.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:32 No.9077067
    BVR missile the bridge so the train doesn't see what hit them. 2 planes do this, then circle back to cropfields.
    2 other planes do cropfields continually.
    Your fastest plane overflies the airfield and gets the FUCK out.
    We'd need a map showing the locations of the airfield, bridge, and farms for a more decent plan though.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:32 No.9077070
    I think he meant that the picture was taken with the photographer being on the bridge, pointed to one side.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:32 No.9077086
    Don't be a pussy. Get that deathcount up there!
    Civilian casualties are ALWAYS good.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:33 No.9077096
    If you want a good multi-purpose fighter why not go for an F-15E?
    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/09/10(Fri)01:33 No.9077097
    yeah i know, kinda figured that...but i still found it funny.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:36 No.9077145
    What if you guys bombed the bridge, but had someone anonymously called in a terrorist bomb threat so that they stopped the train before it plunged into the ravine?

    Same effect, without the civilian casualties.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:37 No.9077152
    BVR missiles won't work. They need those special explosives from the russians.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:39 No.9077201
    You wish to REDUCE civilian casualties?

    Also, you need BVR for this mission on the bridge. If you get within Visual range all the mobile phones and the twitter accounts of people in the train will recount the bridge being attacked by jet fighters.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:39 No.9077211
    Fucking IDEAL for an over-the-horizon BVR shot.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:42 No.9077261
    I don't think the idea was to destroy the bridge with the train on it, but to hit it before the train gets there, and by the time they notice it's out they won't have adequate time to stop, or if it's merely weakened, have it collapse under them.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:42 No.9077266
    Windows on trains don't look Back or Up, so if you attack the train from its arse then climb to clouds you can attack it from within visual range without being seen.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:45 No.9077321
    This, it's not the train, the bridge is more important. Train is some liives lost, bridge is infrastructure.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:45 No.9077327
    I was thinking they'd drop some bombs far ahead of the bridge to make a destroyed railway, and make it very obvious to the train crew that it's destroyed, and then blow up the bridge as well.

    However, I am all for never even TRYING to go for that bridge. Drop the herbicide and take the pictures. The pictures will be the hardest part. They want pictures of an enemy air base. That's U-2 work, satellite work. Not fighter jet work. So be careful, OP.
    1) Too expensive, too American, not really multi-role compared to real multi-role aircraft.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:46 No.9077357
    god georgia defence must be going nuts

    "what are all theese people doing looking at theese things?"
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:47 No.9077377
    "We need you to undertake a night mission of reconnaissance over Tbilisi. Fly high altitude, avoid combat. No missiles are to be fired."
    "As an optional objective, carry this Cold-war era nuclear bomb over Tbilisi and do not drop it."
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:49 No.9077399
    You have to at least try to land a shot on the bridge as the train crosses it.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:50 No.9077414

    No, I think it is the lives lost.

    The Russians want to make it look like there's a terrorist group in Georgia. That's why they have the special missiles that leave chemical traces that look like bomb detonations.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)01:51 No.9077446
    I am afraid to fly, I swear im on a list by now, because of searches i do for research in these threads.
    >> op again !XQ6W0CNp/o 04/09/10(Fri)02:00 No.9077624
    I'm going to send Steve a message, I think I'm going to buy a F-18D. I like the Hornet despite what people say about it, and its a two seater with half ground attack and half air to air, so good multirole.
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    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:09 No.9077788

    Your range is going to be garbage, OP. You're going to have to compromise your payload with drop tanks or rely on buddy tanking or ata refueling for long range flights.

    Aside from that, yeah, the bug's alright. There's other stuff on the market that's better.

    A super bug would be really nice though.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:11 No.9077826
    I support this decision.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:12 No.9077841
    Range is only 60 miles less than an F-4...
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:12 No.9077843
    Going to be a Growler, OP?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:18 No.9077977
    F-18d can carry a little less ordnance than an F-4, but has superior avionics and air to ground capability, and superior maneuverability. Range is vastly similar, both are carrier capable. The D version is not a super hornet, but a two seater, op will probably save some good cash with this choice, and still have the Phantom as a backup.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:21 No.9078052
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    i approve of this thread.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:26 No.9078156
    Shit, i never thought of food shortages, i just thought it was to poison people.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:34 No.9078319
    For a tandem seat super hornet you want the F/A-18F, not the D
    >> Tomcat 04/09/10(Fri)02:35 No.9078332
    I have not seen one of these threads. I am so glad I found this one. Reading the archives now, I think I'll be netertained ffor a good while.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:36 No.9078346
    I don't think hewants the super bug.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:38 No.9078373

    Ah. Nevermind then. I support this decision.

    The F is the two seater super hornet. D is two seater standard hornet.

    Hell yeah. Go for it OP
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:39 No.9078383

    Yeah, he wants a normal hornet. Super bug is too expensive right now.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:40 No.9078404
    Actually, we recalled Grey Davis because he was an asshole who 'disappeared' 10 billion dollars and left the state in a death spiral of debt and partisan bitchfits that it hasn't pulled out of nearly a decade later.

    But, you know, the brownouts sucked, too.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)02:44 No.9078455
    Sorry then, reading this in between Bad Company.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)03:04 No.9078705
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    Drawfag status
    [x] done
    [ ] not done
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)04:50 No.9080046
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    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)04:59 No.9080136
    Acquire heavy cargo transport.
    Replace the cargo hold with a launcher for long-range SAMs.

    (The RAF actually tried doing this with a C-130 during the Cold War)
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 04/09/10(Fri)06:29 No.9081056
    so the growler ended up being to expensive. bugger!
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)06:29 No.9081061
    If the real world ran on rule of cool, it would have worked.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)06:47 No.9081260
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    Eurofag just getting up (at noon). Let's see what we got here.

    Steve is trying to push your buttons. He is giving you opportunity to be greedy and compromise yourselves. I'd be careful.

    On the other hand you don't want to piss off Vladimir, and right now, you're all his bitches. The trick is to be too efficient to be let go, yet not so efficient as to create problems in the long run.

    Refusing a target outright is an affront to your employers. Do all the targets, split up your flight if that helps. But make sure you misdeliver the bridge package in some way. Drop it too early or too late, miss the bridge by a little. Georgia operates no high speed trains, so derailment shouldn't cause too many civy casualties. Just make sure the FSB sees an effort. Maybe the terrorists messed up their fuse length, the fiction can still hold.

    As for the Hornet, I am not a fan. The Super Hornet is a different story, but the old model is barely better than the updated and retrofitted Phantom Baron has now. Growler or no Growler, that is the question.

    My biggest question is this: Will you keep the F-4 around or will it be liquidated to acquire the next bird? If it's still in the hangar you can just take it for a spin when a mission demands it. That would free you up to make a bolder choice of hogs. The F-18 is just too mediocre for a merc campaign, it's a military workhorse and it's sex appeal didn't age well.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)07:09 No.9081501
    F-18 is sexy.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)07:16 No.9081553
    It can't even supercruise. And Sukhois do backflips after delivering comparable payload...
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)07:23 No.9081619
    Well, I'm only as far as reading the briefing, but I can already see a trainload of civilian casualties, with optional extra suffocated farm workers.
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 04/09/10(Fri)07:27 No.9081654
    Looks like the F-18D is a better bit of kit than the super bug anyway, bravo OP. other than the electronics, the normal hornet looks like a better fighter overall.

    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)07:40 No.9081787
    Your opinions are mad ravings until you at least hint at some facts and details. What makes you believe the D outperforms E and F models, and in what role?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)07:44 No.9081821
    None of them will have the cash to buy a plane from savings and afford maintenance on both of them, even if the hangar-plane takes low-level chap maintenance except for immediately before a mission it'll be flying.

    Maybe Hugs could afford it, but only because of his mad kill record.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)07:49 No.9081861
    Find a night slot to do the fly-by of the airstrip, at least.
    Otherwise, skip that one.

    Drop an IED a half-mile ahead of the bridge as well as on the bridge, to minimise the chances of wiping out a trainload of people.

    Paired flights doing the farms should work otherwise.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)07:52 No.9081880
    Regarding the train, would it be possible to call in a bomb threat and get the train stopped?
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 04/09/10(Fri)08:00 No.9081943
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    < there and:


    most of the the other stuff i found was rehashed info from above.

    for OP the hornet looks to be the goer over the super hornet, unless its the growler for ECM dickery.
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 04/09/10(Fri)08:07 No.9082000
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    do a general bomb threat on the trains line?

    with a bit of luck this would stop not only the somewhat doomed train, but also hopefully many others causing more annoyance and unrest.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)08:35 No.9082328
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    Nicely done. And in the rule context you are of course right. But that doesn't change the fact that the Hornet was a bastard child from day one.

    It was procured as a cheap alternative to Tomcats and Eagles.with a navy hook. It was developed out of the Cobra light fighter project and boosted in size and carry, but not enough to silence the criticism over it's limited range and load.

    It was redesigned to address that criticism and become the navy's new old all-rounder. But even the Super Hornet will always be a third grade jet because the entire concept is one big compromise.

    And your first link states that clearly, if in much more words.

    Which is why I say: A Growler will outweigh it's downsides with an awesome repertoire of support actions and will also fit a strike role, if not with much enthusiasm. Other than that, hands off the Hornets. This is an RPG ffs. Rule of cool still applies.

    If leaks of the train threat appear, the Russians will go Stalin on your asses with OPSEC from now on. I wouldn't risk it.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:01 No.9082715
    Do you have anyone who speaks Georgian?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:03 No.9082730
    What is the kill tally for these guys? It's not on 1d4.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:07 No.9082775

    The rules don't reflect range, but I'm sure this Steve character pays attention to that. From a rules point, the Hornet E should have a higher loadout then the D variant, but not by much, maybe 30 instead of 27 I think. The accel is bang on though, the superbug is a pig with all it's extra weight.

    I was reading somewhere Boeing was doing a case study on putting F-22 engines on a hornet, anyone else have verification on this?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:12 No.9082836
    Let's do a quick assesment.

    F-15E strike Eagle vs F-18D.

    What are we looking at in differences capability wise?
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 04/09/10(Fri)09:14 No.9082858
    based off info from the top of my head. the strike eagle carrys a shitload more crap further, faster and better than the tiny little hornet can dream.

    and rightfully so, one is a large strike bomber, the other is a awesome light multirole attack bird.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:15 No.9082870
    That being said, the F-15 has no hope in hell of being carrier capable.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:21 No.9082931
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    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:25 No.9083015
    That is true. Too big, too heavy, too resource-intensive. But fuck it a pretty bird. I miss them, they shouldn't have been retired as early as they were. Much better designed planes than those silly Lawn Darts.

    The F-15E can be swapped to fit anything you need at any given moment. Need AtA capability? Slap some sidewinders and other goodies under the wings and go to town. Need to pound some ground? It has an excellent carry for bombs and air-to-surface missiles and a nice long flight time.
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 04/09/10(Fri)09:25 No.9083017
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    I dunno, the F-18 is like the cute girl at your high school afterparty before she got fat.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:30 No.9083086
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    She is kind of sexy in a cute lovable kind of way.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:32 No.9083117
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    The awkward little sister you'd ask out, only to be surprised that while not perfect, quite the firecracker between the sheets.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 04/09/10(Fri)09:33 No.9083131
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    OP, please rate and review my proposal for Blackflag's logo.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:33 No.9083139
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    Sorry, bro. Just doesn't quite compare.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:35 No.9083160
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    And the big sister, who always works out at the gym, and while you won't tell anyone you hit that, able to crush your penis at whim.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:37 No.9083180
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    Prom Queen.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:38 No.9083195
    >Ace Combat 5

    Are you fucking dumb? It's a Japanese game, it can't be weeaboo if it's fucking Japanese!

    A weeaboo is someone who worships/idolizes/wants to be Japan/Japanese. Get your terminology straight.

    You go into other threads and call people Mary Sue without understanding what that means too, don't you?
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 04/09/10(Fri)09:41 No.9083233
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    And also the personal emblems of Hell's Black Aces' pilots. Got three so far. Left to right: Baron, BearHug, Sandman. I really like how Sandy's emblem looks like.
    >> op again !XQ6W0CNp/o 04/09/10(Fri)09:41 No.9083235
    Quick update:

    I bought the F-18D, Sandy bought an SU-24, his rationale being it was on sale and it's a backup for his F-111. Scotch could afford something else but is sticking with his Viggen, and Hugs is being quiet about what he is doing.

    In terms of money, Hugs is the richest, and has paid back his initial loan from Black flag.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:42 No.9083253
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    Ashamed confession: I want to be the little Japan.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:43 No.9083263

    Jesus christ, shut up, you fucking sperglord. I can just imagine your fat ass sat at your computer pushing your glasses up your nose with your cheeto-stained fingers.

    Japanese shit is weeaboo shit. Final Fantasy is weeaboo. Ace Combat is weeaboo.

    Go outside more.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:44 No.9083273
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    Ugly Fat Goth chick.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:45 No.9083283
    Dunno about fat, but definately unfashionable and curves in all the wrong places.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:47 No.9083312
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    Hot Foreign girl from French class. While cheerful, never seemed interested in you.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:48 No.9083313
    Get out of our awesome merc air thread!
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:48 No.9083314
    Hugs is the same person who refused any Russian equipment last time, right?

    ... Yeah.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:49 No.9083321
    No, Hugs is the Flanker pilot. Who refused russian tech? Maybe Sandy?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:49 No.9083326
    I didn't think it was possible for you to prove you were more dumb than you had in the beginning, if indeed you are the person I had replied to.

    But you have, congratulations. I'm quite proud of your accomplishments in this thread, for you have saved me the problem of having to expose you for the moronic waste of human flesh you are. I can only hope that with the new Health Care Reform that such mistakes as you can be prevented with state-funded abortions.

    I'm sure you would call works like Yojimbo and Sanjuro weeaboo too, huh?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:50 No.9083335
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    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:50 No.9083340
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    Hot Asians.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 04/09/10(Fri)09:51 No.9083354
    Lookit the pig calling the elephant fat. Can't you learn some stuff right FFS? weeaboo = you.

    Hey OP! how's the emblems and logos?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:51 No.9083360
    It takes balls to call 7 Samurai weeaboo. Calls I'd cut off. There are some movies that transcend your IMSOEDGYANDCOOL logic. 7 Samurai is one of them.

    It is also obvious that the person you responded to is either A. a troll or B. an idiot or C. both.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:51 No.9083361
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    Twins Basil, TWINS...
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:54 No.9083392
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    Daddy needs it... SO bad...
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:55 No.9083397
    Fair points and noted, I'll not reply to any more tauntings in this thread again then.

    Sorry to disrupt the pretty airplane pictures there.
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 04/09/10(Fri)09:55 No.9083403
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    That as tragicly run down in her prime.

    Im not still hurting about it. not at all.

    Did you keep the F-4?? Maybe Hugs is looking at a massive upgrade to the airframe he has or to something rather insane.

    hotter younger sister of said goth chick,
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)09:58 No.9083437
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    School Slut.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:00 No.9083463
    More like a distant cousin, really.
    Her hot sister is the B-2.
    >> op again !XQ6W0CNp/o 04/09/10(Fri)10:01 No.9083474

    I'm not sure about my emblem, I was thinking more like a barony style hat or something. But the Blackflag logo looks menancing in its simplicity.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:02 No.9083481
    Definitely a Sophomore or Freshman school slut.
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 04/09/10(Fri)10:02 No.9083491
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    Prom Queen and her twin sister.

    look at those implants. god damn.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:03 No.9083500
    You dumb fucks, they're planes, not women. No wonder you guys have no life, you fap to planes in shit threads like this one.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:04 No.9083506
    Oh god. I hope he at least got the Fencer C.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:08 No.9083542
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    Cute foreign chick from Eastern Europe you want to go meet, smokes with the other superhot european chick.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 04/09/10(Fri)10:08 No.9083545
    OK, I'll redo the Baron's emblem. Can't think of ANYTHING for Scots though, apart from a liquor bottle.
    Which is by general concensus is a no-no.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:10 No.9083569
    Make that D, or no AAR.
    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)10:11 No.9083583
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    Damn right she does!

    Looks like I got here right in time to miss most of the thread. Stupid real life issues... What did I miss?
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 04/09/10(Fri)10:11 No.9083589
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    A lot of expat scots over here keep a small Scottish flag on there car, I have no idea if it will help out though.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:14 No.9083619
    I say Bagpipes.

    And what is a baron style hat please?
    Maybe a biplane? The Reichskreuz still IS the logo of the Deutsche Luftwaffe after all.
    >> hello kabbalah Stoofffet 04/09/10(Fri)10:17 No.9083653
    i am new, happy to be here.. need fix my keybord
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:21 No.9083692
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    My try at Baron's emblem...
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 04/09/10(Fri)10:21 No.9083696
    I just got an idea. A bagpipe colored like the scottish flag?
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 04/09/10(Fri)10:23 No.9083711
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:25 No.9083728
    Baron is the baddest Motherfucker in the skies!
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:31 No.9083788
    No flag. Tartan. Google it!
    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)10:33 No.9083809
    Big Fan of the art so far, like sandman a lot, Hugs logo seems a bit close to black water logo though.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:34 No.9083823
    Stop samefagging.

    It's too detailed and a little immature. Something more symbolic and iconic would be nice I think.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 04/09/10(Fri)10:38 No.9083875
    Hmm, will do.

    no I'm not..? well then what do YOU think fits Scots' style?

    OK, how to fix Hugs? Got any ideas?
    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/09/10(Fri)10:47 No.9084005
    I approve of your purchase OP, as well as Sandy's. I'd suggested the SU-24 for him before and it looks like he went with it, whether he knew about my suggestion or not(probably not). I'm waiting to see what Hugs does with his savings... ^_^
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:49 No.9084023
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    Cut with the trolling already, cockburglar.

    That aside, I find the idea of ignoring the train bridge a poor one. Any sort of angling about the issue, even worse - especially tipping the Georgians off beforehand. The bridge should be hit, but whether succesfully or not and whether in time to damage the train is another choice to make. I'd propably rather bomb the bridge well ahead the train schedule.

    Also, all targets should be hit with such timing that the one most remote from the exit zone risks detection first. Wouldn't want to get stranded, remembering that there's combat-capable and pissed hardware buzzing around your area. The airfield should be taken by the fastest plane, and should be first circled around widely, and then crossed over while going towards the exit point already. After that, zoom right out, Gold Rush style.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:50 No.9084042

    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:52 No.9084071
    Maybe he'll show off how much of a rich-fuck he really is, and get a S-37 Berkut.

    Insane mode- convert it to VTOL, and go on HIGH ADVENTURE with a wise-cracking Marine and a New York linguist who is definitely not Daniel Jackson.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:54 No.9084086
    Neither cockburglar nor trolling.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:55 No.9084110
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    Cool down broski.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)10:55 No.9084114
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    Huh. What on earth would he downgrade for?

    Also, durnit, the picture didn't quite turn out right. Not enough hours in paint.
    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)11:02 No.9084203
    Hit the targets in one big daisy chain if possible, and do it at speed.

    I think you should also consider dumping cash in some of the countries around Georgia so you have more alternates, in case things turn to shit.

    As someone said, everyone should have some form of air to air. Enough to deter pursuit at the very least.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:04 No.9084230
    Two questions, is this archived? And do the planes have names?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:06 No.9084259
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    Depending on the size of the fields, perhaps the group should split into four - one for each objective, with Hugs and someone else loitering in AA suit, ready to jump anyone who gives pursuit.

    But it might be the spray job is a little too time intensive for one plane.
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 04/09/10(Fri)11:09 No.9084287
    something tells me that repainting military aircraft would be a bitch of a job.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 04/09/10(Fri)11:09 No.9084296
    Yes and no.
    those names are the callsigns of the pilots.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:10 No.9084318
    They need to name their planes.
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    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:17 No.9084403
    "Indiscriminate Murder on Wings" has a nice ring to it.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:23 No.9084505
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    Not enough POWUUHHHHH!
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:26 No.9084545
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    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:28 No.9084585
    Is this the thread with the irrational hatred for the F-35?
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 04/09/10(Fri)11:30 No.9084599
    oh god, dont bring THAT up.
    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/09/10(Fri)11:31 No.9084616
    Why yes...yes it i*WHAP*...uh no...no it most certainly is not comrade. Please, bring your over budget toy in here. We'd love to laugh behind our hands at it.
    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)11:31 No.9084620
    Rational Hatred.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:32 No.9084622
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    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:32 No.9084631
    I like how the first three responses are all from tripfags.
    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)11:33 No.9084641
    Europe boys? I'm on break at work, what's your excuse?
    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)11:34 No.9084657
    It's almost like we have the thread on alert in a feed... I chuckled as well.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:35 No.9084669
    That is an awesome plane, I heard the germans had a plane like that. It was called Ho 229 but hitler used it as a bomber instead of as a fighter and therefore lost the war.
    >> F-22 fag !nUpIOg2/OM 04/09/10(Fri)11:35 No.9084670
    Ausfag, 1.34am. Too much caffeine.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:35 No.9084674
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    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:37 No.9084697
    While you didn't ask me, it's already evening, and some plane porn and political tinfoil hattery go quite well while dinner's underway. Modern air warfare is a good aperitif.

    Hamburger steak, mash, lingonberry jam, steamed carrots and brown cream sauce. And a nice lager, for the sake of friday. Rustic, but tasty.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:38 No.9084707

    Come to think.... any chance the Ruskies will let you use any FAE ordnance? Not for this mission, obviously.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:38 No.9084713
    ... dammit, Godwin.

    Cue shitstorm.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:39 No.9084726

    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)11:41 No.9084740
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    No. No one is that ignorant. I refuse to bite.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:46 No.9084796
    I know i'm late to the thread, but why is everyone making such a big deal about the bridge

    Just don't do it, they said it was a scondary objective, a bonus. If you don't feel like hitting the bridge/train just don't, they won't be pissed at you otherwise they would have made it a main objective, not a bonus
    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)11:51 No.9084854

    Cheers from the North.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:53 No.9084871
    It's not the bridge deal at face value that's difficult, but rather the nuances under it. How they handle it will affect the Russians' evaluation of the squad's usefulness. And FSB isn't the kind of a bunch you should go trusting blindly when you're doing wetworks for them. If they underperform, their evaluation as an asset might be considered below cost-efficiency, and they might get shafted. If they blow up a trainload of civvies, on the other hand, their employer might seize the opportunity it gives and deliver "captured foreign agents attempting to frame Russia and provoke NATO sympathies in the Georgian public" for a very public, and very one-sided trial.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:54 No.9084899

    If you do this, get eyes on the train and blast the fuck out of the bridge leaving them ample time to hit the brakes. The poster suggesting you accidentally drop one bomb half a mile or so before the bridge has his head on straight.

    And check for trains coming in from the other side, just to be sure.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:55 No.9084905
    Who's nort of who, though. Greetings from 120km south of the polar circle.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:55 No.9084917
    Not to mention that OP's group already did frame Russia in a previous mission.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)11:56 No.9084925
    That has to do with the objective though, they put it foward as secondary, sure it'd be nice if we did secondary objectives but doing 1 out of 2 and the main objective is more then enough. I'm sure they'll accept. Also I think we're in a contract, even if they fail they're slated to do a few more to win back favor

    All i'm saying is not doing a bonus objective isn't that huge a deal
    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/09/10(Fri)12:08 No.9085066
    Nah, west coast USA. Its only 9am here and i'm home taking care of the sick wife.
    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)12:09 No.9085083
    That sucks, hope she gets better. How does she feel about you always tapping away about planes?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)12:13 No.9085135
    I give up. I have no clue what plane that is. I know every world war 2 plane, including little known german prototypes, but that one has me stumped. You beat me.
    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/09/10(Fri)12:19 No.9085205
    she doesn't mind that I type away about planes...its just the amount and timing that bugs her since OP usually starts these threads in my evening hours and doesn't tend to finish his reports until just about bed time...and conversation doesn't die off until 11pm or later and then I wake up and pick right back up where I left off.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)12:20 No.9085220
    fa/tg/uys do not have wives. Liar.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)12:23 No.9085260
    Blast you! You haven't been on 4chan long enough. I am thwarted.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)12:29 No.9085358
    It's got to be some type of Curtiss.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)12:42 No.9085561
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    >> Skyhawk !c6DO1M4BMw 04/09/10(Fri)12:46 No.9085615
    not all people on /tg/ are your typical fa/tg/uys. Goatee, not a beard. Wife, not just the interbutts. A life, not just /tg/
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)12:52 No.9085680

    Mmmm... veins.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)13:00 No.9085779
    According to my TinEye skills, it's a XP 47.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)13:05 No.9085845

    Republic XP-47H

    Over 15,5000 P47s were manufactured, of which over 12,5000 were P-47Ds. The two XP-47Hs were simply P47D engine test beds for the Chrysler X1V-2220-1 inverted V16 engine. The two aircraft, 23297 and 23298, modified to take this engine that included a General Electric CH5 turbo supercharger in the rear fuselage and a 13ft four blade propeller. No armament was fitted and due to the problems with the engine the aircraft didn’t fly until July 1945. By this time the war was over and everyone was more interested in jet engines and so no further development was carried out.
    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)13:14 No.9085956
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    Another one?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)13:19 No.9086020

    MiG-21? but there's so much nonstandard kit on there my n00bish skills are at a loss
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)13:21 No.9086062
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    I think it's a SU-17.
    My turn now. Yep, these are retractable rocket launchers.
    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)13:22 No.9086067
    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)13:26 No.9086133
    Not that either. Yours looks like... T-33 or a variant thereof.
    >> sukhoi !KJHro3/ISM 04/09/10(Fri)13:27 No.9086148
    Actually, let me re-phrase that, not a SU-17, a 22, but that is close enough.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)13:33 No.9086217
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    To steal something from Crimson Skies.
    >> ELLIPSE 04/09/10(Fri)13:35 No.9086253
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)13:45 No.9086408
    OP, you chose the Hornet? BAD BAD BAD Decision.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)13:57 No.9086564

    Very nice contribution. Well thought out and erudite. Truly, you are a boon to this thread.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)14:24 No.9086908

    That's a F-94C Starfire.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)14:56 No.9087215
    Well, the Hornet does suck.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)15:01 No.9087284
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    Looks good though.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)15:05 No.9087340
    Dem legs....
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)15:09 No.9087391
    It really does look like an upskirt shot... If planes could talk, she'd be blushing.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)15:46 No.9088012
    The hornet isn't that bad of a plane, it's pretty good at its job.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)15:52 No.9088103
    dammit /tg/ why do you do this to me?
    Must everything be sexualized?
    i don't need to get erections when looking at planes
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)15:53 No.9088109
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    The Super Tucano looks pretty cool.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)15:54 No.9088128
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)15:55 No.9088147
    Sukhoi is turned on by planes, I'm fairly certain a lot of the other fligh/tg/uys do as well.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)15:59 No.9088196
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    >> Air Action Weekly 04/09/10(Fri)16:54 No.9089110
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    Damn, how'd I miss this thread?
    >> Fligh/tg/uy 04/09/10(Fri)18:09 No.9090528
    Damn, I've missed too much of this stuff lately.

    Say OP, could you post Steve's homebrew rules and additions to the Air War rules?

    Of to bed, glad to see these threads are still popping up from time to time

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