>LOOK STATS
Hit Dice: 3d6+6 HP (14/19 HP)
Base Attack/Grapple: +1/+5
Cricket Bat +5 melee (1d6+4)
Knife +5 melee (1d4+4)
Claws +5 melee (1d4+2)
Bite +5 melee (1d6+4)

AC 15 (+3 dex, +2 leather armor)
Str 18, Dex 17, Con 15, Int 10, Wis 17, Cha 14
Fort +5, Reflex +5, Will +4
15 foot climb speed
40 foot land speed
Membrane for gliding (40 ft (clumsy) in favourable winds)

Scent, Low Light Vision
Language: Common

Total skill bonuses (when higher than stat):
Jump +17
Hide +13
Move Silently +13
Balance +7
Climb +6 (plus climb speed)
Swim +6
Disguise +5
Bluff +5
Knowledge (Local) +4

Feats:
• Stealthy
• Athletic
• Weapon Finesse
• Great Fortitude
• Point Blank Shot
• Skill focus: Bluff
• Run

>LOOK INVENTORY
Cricket Bat
Decent Clothes
Knife
20 ft rope
Leather Armor
84 gp, 30 silver, 53 copper
Scroll: Calm Animals
Scroll: Summon Nature's Ally I
Light Crossbow
2 crossbow bolts (tipped with knockout poison)

>LOOK ALLIES
Claire (human wizard novice)

Acquire the "four stomachs" trait.

wow this was unexpected i thought you said sunday or Tuesday?

SUGGESTIONS AT LAST THREAD END:
>Eat rats to regain HP.
>Find a hobo and consume him for a manly voice. Go back to Mage-girl, roll Bluff to convince her we've always had a manly voice.
>Rest for the night.
>Try to go eat gators in sewer.
>Rest, give tryout for Claire's courier job tomorrow

>>wow this was unexpected i thought you said sunday or Tuesday?
I did, but my plans this weekend got some major change. This is fun to run, so another session is now.

>Acquire the "four stomachs" trait.
Your stomach is highly efficient, special, one of a kind! Why would you ever want to change that?

More to the point: show me it on the stat block of something, then go eat it, and sure.

Find a hobo and consume him for a manly voice, having a kid's voice sort of limits what we can do.

Oh cool, I get to actually be here for the start of one of these.

Find rats, eat for HP.
Also look for a hobo. Hobo takes priority over rats.

>>9385178
like entering a pub

>Find a hobo and consume him for a manly voice, having a kid's voice sort of limits what we can do.
>Also look for a hobo. Hobo takes priority over rats.

You head down into the alleys and look for a drifter, someone who won't be missed. You snag a sleeping cat on the way for a light snack. After a little while, you see a scruffy man digging near the trash at the back entrance of a tavern. Also in the nearby are is a dwarf in armor, who is busy urinating on the side wall of the tavern.

Action?

>>9385275
Grab hobo, hand around his mouth, and jump up to rooftop. Devour.

HOWEVER
If dwarf has line of sight, hide.

>>9385275
If dorf is peeing because he's intoxicated, stab dorf in the back of the head then eat him.

>>9385275
can we tell what sort of armour the dwarf is in?

we have to go looking of some Hunting spiders for there tasty +10 racial bonus on Jump checks

>Grab hobo, hand around his mouth, and jump up to rooftop. Devour. HOWEVER If dwarf has line of sight, hide.
You can leap up onto a single story roof by yourself no problem, but carrying a passenger--especially an unwilling one? Not likely.

Dwarf is looking away from you, at the wall.

>can we tell what sort of armour the dwarf is in?
Sure, chainmail.

>If dorf is peeing because he's intoxicated, stab dorf in the back of the head then eat him.
He seems to be letting some drinks out, but you know that judging a dorf's intoxication is a sketchy proposition at best. Do it anyways?

>>9385420
Drag hobo behind the dumpster so the dwarf can't turn around to see, then. Eat him, acquire voice.

Then stab dwarf in the back of the head and eat him.

>>9385420
>>9385420
is the chainmail from his stat block or did he buy it

>>9385420
>>9385486
and do we know for sure that he is a vanilla dwarf and not a Duergar.

>>9385486
You don't know what a statblock is, do you?

>>9385516
look here http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dwarf.htm this is what i was talking about

was the last thread archived?
Eat the dorf

>>9385558
yes here http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/9340810/

>>9385554
You really don't know what a statblock is, do you?
Armor is never part of a dwarf. It is always equipment for a dwarf. You are a faggot.

>>9385558
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/9340810/

>Drag hobo behind the dumpster so the dwarf can't turn around to see, then. Eat him, acquire voice.
>1d20+13=30 Hide
>1d20+13=17 Move Silently
>1d20+2=21 Listen
You sneak into a position behind the hobo, neither individual seeing a thing. At the last moment, he hears your approach and cries out, "Who's there?!" as he turns to see your knife flying into him. He doesn't put up any fight, merely letting out a groan as you stab again and consume him as quickly as possible.

Hobo voice acquired!

>is the chainmail from his stat block or did he buy it
You don't know that.
>and do we know for sure that he is a vanilla dwarf and not a Duergar.
You don't know that either, but he looks like the sort of dwarf the human whose knowledge you took knew of.

>Eat the dorf
You hear said dwarf moving quickly (for a dwarf) in your direction. Likely, he heard the struggle.

Action?

>>9385626
Hold out the cricket bat, smack him upside the head when he gets within melee range.
Retreat to rooftops in case of losing battle.

>>9385626
bluff using the new voice

>>9385727
That is a statblock.
Statblocks include equipment.
You seem to think that there's a difference between equipment and items on the statblock.
This is not the case.
You cannot eat a dwarf and absorb the armor he is wearing.

>>9385598
eh i was told that this is a stat block

Initial HP: 16/19

>>9385661
>>9385651
Give me a second on which to do, and if it's to bluff, tell me what you want to say or try.

Also, you have a +1 to any roll, applied beforehand, still carried over from the 2nd session.

>>9385749
never said that, it's just normal dwarves have scale mail and Duergar have chainmail

>>9385797
You're an idiot.

>>9385797
I use an NPC generator (and common sense adjustments) to have variety in NPCs, instead of taking them all out of the original stat blocks.

I don't mind metagaming, but you're taking it a bit far.

>>9385830
fair enough.

>>9385830
>NPC generator
Please link me to this.
Also, I think if no one seconds the Bluff, we should go with my idea of clubbing the dorf to death.

>>9385866
i want to bluff the dwarf then club him as he walks away

>>9385891
I like this idea.
Do this.

DAMN IT TEMPGM WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GO

>>9386060
CALM DOWN BILLY, HE'LL BE BACK SOON I JUST KNOWS HE WILLS

>Please link me to this.
I use a couple, actually. Here's an easy to use one: http://www.myth-weavers.com/generate_npc.php?do=npcgen

>i want to bluff the dwarf then club him as he walks away
>if it's to bluff, tell me what you want to say or try.
Guess we're going with this, because I have no clue how you wanted to bluff him:
>Hold out the cricket bat, smack him upside the head when he gets within melee range.

Cricket bat pulled out.
>1d20+3=16 Initiative You
>1d20+1=9 Initiative Dwarf
>1d20+5=25 Cricket bat attack
>1d20+5=24 Possible crit! But no confirm :(
>1d6+4=9 damage
>1d20+4=17 attack dwarven waraxe
>1d10+3=9 damage

7/19 HP remaining. Dwarf took a nasty hit on the head from your bat.

Action?

>>9386071

Hit him again!

>>9386071
>>1d20+5=25 Cricket bat attack
>>1d20+5=24 Possible crit! But no confirm :(

Actually, I'm about 99% sure that to confirm a critical you only have to beat armor class.
His armor class is 25?

>>9386071
Use our agility to our advantage broskis, he can't climb the walls.

I suggest we flee to a roof and observe the dwarf. Is he armed at all? If he isn't, we may be able to sneak attack him from above, or shoot him with the crossbow and hope he fails his saves.

>>9386060
Sorry about that.

And before anybody whines about not bluffing, I asked you for the way you wanted to do it. I don't need a speech, but just saying "I roll bluff" or "I roll diplomacy" gives me nothing to work with. Good dialogue or clever ideas for implementation will give a bonus, as well.

>Actually, I'm about 99% sure that to confirm a critical you only have to beat armor class.
Rule double-check. Dammit, here I was wrong and all.
>1d6+4=5 additional damage.
Well, the dwarf is looking reaaaally unsteady now.

>>9386139
>>9386176
>>9386071
Jump up to rooftop, on next turn jump down and use momentum to deal extra damage.

we can do that right?

>>9386202
We could. He could drop us with one hit now, though, so I agree with fleeing to the roof.

>>9386176
Seconding hit him again if he's looking hurt.

so what happens if we die?

>>9386255
Don't even think about it, we're too good for that shit.

>>9386255
Game over, man! Game over!

>Is he armed at all?
He's carrying a waraxe and a buckler. He could have additional weaponry.

>so what happens if we die?
You really don't want to find that out.

Vote split between hitting again and leaping to rooftop. First to 2 after this post wins.

hit again

Leap to rooftop and take cover against ranged weapons. We can then leap down at him and get a walloping charge attack in future rounds.

fleeeeee

Smack him now!

>>9386287
Rooftop, hit again next round.

Rooftop and throw dagger using Point Blank Shot!

if we don't kill him our cover is blown

Leap to the rooftop as a move action. Draw dagger as part of the move. Throw from higher ground at +1 to hit and damage. We do need to take him down, but I dont' want to get axed again.

>Leap to rooftop and take cover against ranged weapons. We can then leap down at him and get a walloping charge attack in future rounds.

"GET BACK HERE, YE COWARDLY FREAK!" the dwarf bellows out as you slip back and then leap up, grabbing the edge in the process (jumping straight up is much harder than running long jumps) and pulling yourself up to the top. The dwarf moves to where he can see you, and has his axe ready to swing. He starts bellowing profanities at you.

Action?

Anything up there heavy we can drop on him?

Put our dagger into his face with a precision throw.

>>9386403
Either do >>9386415
or jump down and clobber him with bonus damage cricket bat.

i guess we might as well use our crossbow

We'd get a bonus to hit, but not damage. We'd also lose AC. Ranged attack preferable.

>>9386403
Whip out our crossbow and finish him off!

>>9386440
We're not proficient. We are proficient with dagger. We also have Point Blank Shot.

>>9386442
>not damage.
fuck that
This situation is too dangerous for awesome and flashy, but impractical, tactics.

FIRE A POISONED BOLT AT HIM

>>9386464
We're not proficient and we only have 2 poisoned bolts left. Dwarves are good at Fort saves. Not good at dagger saves. Throw dagger.

See if we can get to an alleyway where he can't see us stealthily, then sneak up behind him with a knife and stab him. Preferably in the neck

>>9386479
I don't think we have Sneak Attack.

>>9386464
dwarves have good saves against poison.

>>9386493
We do have stealthy.

>Put our dagger into his face with a precision throw.
Seems to have most votes.

>1d20+5=12 ranged attack
The dwarf tries to deflect the thrown dagger with his axe, but it's his armor that stops it. He kicks it away, and sneers up at you. "GET DOWN HERE BEFORE I START THROWING THINGS BACK UP AT YOU, YOU ABOMINATION!" He readies his axe again.

>>9386495
>>9386477
>dwarves can save against poison
WELL FUCK THAT
Throw dagger at that fucker's head.

i say go for the throw with our knife

I still think, statistically, our best bet is to throw a dagger. The damage is low, but so are his HP now.

>>9386509
>Stealthy [General]
>Benefit

>You get a +2 bonus on all Hide checks and Move Silently checks.

>>9386529
Fuck.
All in favor of jumping down?

>>9386529
curses. i don't suppose that we have anyway of using the Scroll: Summon Nature's Ally I we have?

I still say we examine the roof for something to drop on his stumpy, bearded ass.

>>9386529
Wielding our Cricket Bat, let's jump down with as much force as we can muster and putting our strength into braining his skull into shards of bone.

>>9386564
I say we jump down on him

>curses. i don't suppose that we have anyway of using the Scroll: Summon Nature's Ally I we have?
Not yet. You had an opportunity before, but picked to have 17 Wis instead.
>Sneak Attack?
None yet.

ALSO
>LOOK STATS BROKEN DOWN
Hit Dice: 3d6+6 HP (14/19 HP)
Base Attack/Grapple: +1/+5
Cricket Bat +5 melee (1d6+4) (+4 Str, +1 BAB)
Knife +5 melee (1d4+4)
Crossbow +0 ranged (1d8) (+3 Dex, +1 BAB, -4 nonproficiency)
Claws +5 melee (1d4+2)
Bite +5 melee (1d6+4)

AC 15 (+3 dex, +2 leather armor)
Str 18, Dex 17, Con 15, Int 10, Wis 17, Cha 14
Fort +5 (+1 base, +2 Con, +2 feat), Reflex +5 (+2 base, +3 Dex), Will +4 (+1 base, +3 Wis)
15 foot climb speed (Can take 10 on Climb checks)
40 foot land speed
Membrane for gliding (40 ft (clumsy) in favourable winds)

Scent, Low Light Vision
Language: Common
Proficiencies: Dagger, Club

Jump +17 (+4 Str, +4 ranks, +4 racial, +4 speed to jump)
Hide +13 (+3 Dex, +4 ranks, +4 racial, +2 feat)
Move Silently +13 (+3 Dex, +4 ranks, +4 racial, +2 feat)
Balance +7 (+3 Dex, +4 ranks)
Climb +6 (+4 Str, +2 feat)
Swim +6 (+4 Str, +2 feat)
Bluff +5 (+2 Cha, +3 feat)
Disguise +5 (+2 Cha, +3 ranks)
Knowledge (Local) +4

Feats:
• Stealthy (+2 to Hide/Move Silently)
• Athletic (+2 to Climb/Swim)
• Weapon Finesse (use Dex to hit)
• Great Fortitude (+2 to Fortitude saves)
• Point Blank Shot (+1 to hit with ranged weapons within 30 feet)
• Skill focus: Bluff (+3 to Bluff)
• Run (can run 5x base speed, keep Dex bonus to AC while running)

We can't jump down, he has a readied action! HE GETS TO ATTACK FIRST IF WE DO!

Jumping down like that would be a charge. +2 to hit and -2 to AC. We need our AC where it is. We have a dagger and 2 bolts. We can throw the knife more easily than drawing and loading the crossbow. We should throw. Best to-hit and damage we have at range.

>>9386609
THIS.

Throw. Knife.

>>9386612
see
>>9386529

>>9386612
we did throw >>9386529

>>9386612
I thought we threw the knife already. And it failed.

>>9386635
How do I keep missing these things. >_<

>I thought we threw the knife already. And it failed.
Correct.

>(14/19 HP) in detailed stat block.
Also this got changed, as mentioned. You're at 7/19 HP.

I suggested days ago putting some cobblestones on roofs like this for ranged weapons. Have we done that nearby?

we have no choices left except crossbow or run and if we run then our cover is completely blow.
so i say use the crossbow

>>9386701
Sadly, I now agree. Bad to-hit and waste of poison, but, we need to down him pronto.

>I suggested days ago putting some cobblestones on roofs like this for ranged weapons. Have we done that nearby?

Not nearby. You've done it a few places, but you hadn't made it a pressing concern.

>>9386679
Okay, new idea because of the low HP:

Scamper away, and then hide for a few moments. Once the dwarf likely decided to walk away, let's look down carefully, anticipate where he's moving, run over to a corner he'll pass while walking out of the alley, and take him out with the bat with the edge of surprise.

>>9386687
I don't think so. That said, there might be other things on the roof. What's on here GM?

>>9386687
i don't think we have had time to "It's evening, and you've been cognizant for about 24 hours"

How could he blow our cover? We can change appearance on top of him being a drunken dwarf. He's the one near the hobo gore. Scream in the child voice for the authorities.

>>9386734
funny and could work, but let's go with this
>>9386720

>>9386734
DO THIS
IMPLICATE HIM FOR MURDER

>>9386734
This could work, though we'd be short a meal.

>>9386775
Agreed; it's either him or us.

CONSUME OR DIE!

>We can change appearance on top of him being a drunken dwarf.
Other than the minor, automatic appearance adjustments you undergo with each meal, the only way to permanently change your appearance is to eat someone and have their appearance be the trait taken.

>I don't think so. That said, there might be other things on the roof. What's on here GM?
You could pry loose some shingles.

>Scream in the child voice for the authorities.
>Scamper away, and then hide for a few moments. Once the dwarf likely decided to walk away, let's look down carefully, anticipate where he's moving, run over to a corner he'll pass while walking out of the alley, and take him out with the bat with the edge of surprise.
First to 3, gents.

>>9386775
He's a short meal to begin with!

But we want Darkvision.

pry loose some shingles

>>9386800
+1 for screaming

Scamper and hide, then ambush gets my vote.

"Run away." Come back in 12 second, jump on and whack with bat.

>>9386800
Pry off shingles, throw at dwarf's axe handle until his axe breaks. He will be angry, probably yelling up. Then we throw the rest of the shingles at his face.

Scream and run.
Also are the winds favorable?

>>9386851
>>9386817
These.

Shingles wont do shit.

>>9386882
How big/heavy are they? Improvised throwing weapons? What would their stats be? 1d3?

>>9386882
the would depend on what the shingles are made of

Unless they're thick and solid steel I can't see them doing anything.

>pry loose some shingles
Shingles are heavy and hard, but not attached so well that you can't pull them loose. Not the most ideal of weaponry, but you've got a lot of them!

>1d20+1=15
A shingle clatters to the ground near the dwarf.
>1d20+1=3
Missed again, drat. The dwarf pulls out a little vial and tosses it back, shaking his head a moment, then grinning. He looks a little steadier than he did a moment ago. Wait, his guard is down for a moment!

The people inside the tavern seems to have heard some of the commotion, and you think you'll have company soon.

Action?

Flee and eat someone's face for a cover identity.

Worst.
Decision.
Ever.

JUMP AND KILL!

>>9386969
Throw some shingles near the dead hobo, or what's left of him, and run away. On the rooftops.

>>9386991
he just drank a healing potion

>>9387013

JUMP AND KILL!

>>9386984
How will our mage-girl friend recognize us then?

>>9387013
That is my perception as well. He's likely got some class levels in him if he can afford that. Abort and flee.

>>9387033
I'd rather lose her as an ally then be identified and hunted down.

>>9387029
we will not be able to before he kills us

>>9387033

>mage-girl friend

>mage girl-friend

>mage girlfriend

The obvious outcome from all this.

>>9386969
Before he can resteady himself entirely, leap down powerfully and smash him apart with the bat. If he dies, do our best to pretend he's passed out and hobble away to seclusion away from the scene. If he lives, run to retrieve our dagger and flee.

>>9386969
We stabbed and bit before on a leap, right?

JUMP, SWING, AND BITE

Then drag him away quickly.

Piss onto his face to piss him off further then GTFO.

>>9387053
I'm okay with this.

>>9387086
Hell, we should have been biting as it was on our melee attacks.

Scream and run

>>9387088
I support this.

>>9387086
Yes, THIS!

>>9387086
Don't know how we pulled that off with a move and attack, but I shan't complain. Go 'fer it.

>JUMP, SWING, AND BITE
>Run away, steal identity
>Piss onto his face to piss him off further then GTFO.

Most other suggestions seem to be a variant of these. First to three, go.

JUMP, SWING, AND BITE

Leap, swing, and bite has my vote, if we can pull it off.

>>9387190

JUMP SWING BITE

>>9387192
This is the second time someone has taken my trip while GMing. Seriously, guys? Trip switch now.

>>9387216
not
sure
if
trust

also, if true, use secure trip code

Damn guys, even if we kill him there's people on the way.

I'm butthurt we didn't scream for the authorities.

>JUMP, SWING, BITE
>1d20+6=15 cricket bat attack
Miss :(
>1d20+1=21 bite attack
>1d20+1=17 crit confirm
>2d6+8 damage=18 damage

The dwarf blocks the bat with his shield, but he clearly had no idea you had REAL teeth in that mouth. It's the last mistake he's ever able to make. You rip into his throat once, twice, and almost decapitate him before you're done.

People are coming from the tavern and will be here momentarily. Action?

>>9387291
we have hit the damned if we do damned if we don't threshold.

>>9387316
Can we RUN AT FIVE TIMES MOVEMENT SPEED while dragging corpses? if so, drag body someplace safe and eat.
if not, grab dagger and gtfo

Eat corpse QUICKLY, RUN!

>>9387332
Run [General]

When running, you move five times your normal speed (if wearing medium, light, or no armor and carrying no more than a medium load) or four times your speed (if wearing heavy armor or carrying a heavy load). If you make a jump after a running start (see the Jump skill description), you gain a +4 bonus on your Jump check. While running, you retain your Dexterity bonus to AC.

(Normal: You move four times your speed while running (if wearing medium, light, or no armor and carrying no more than a medium load) or three times your speed (if wearing heavy armor or carrying a heavy load), and you lose your Dexterity bonus to AC.)

>>9387316
can we run for it while eating/carrying the dwarf?

>>9387316
Remove any pouches, containers, etc.

If we can't get away with the whole body then maybe take just the head and see what we can gain from that?

>>9387345
Does carrying the dwarf bring us above a medium load?
If so, what about dragging him? Remember that dragging counts as only like 1/4 weight or something.

>can we run for it while eating/carrying the dwarf?
You have base speed of 40, you can scoot along pretty quickly even while carting a body. You should have enough time.

>dagger
Where ever the dwarf kicked it to, you can't see it. Must be someplace the bit of light doesn't reach.

>>9387358
Taking the head would be good, if we can't take his entire body. It'd reduce the chance of identifying the body.

>>9387387
Do it then! We must escape!

>>9387382
our Medium Load is 101-200 lb.

Escape with the body. Eat later.

He likely won't put us into heavy encumberance, so we can travel with him. There will be a blood trail, but we can eat on the move, can't we?

>Do it then! We must escape!
>Escape with the body. Eat later.

You drag the body away into another alley before you can be spotted. Oh, it smells delicious. You feel the need to eat it quickly, while it tastes best!

You hear loud voices from the tavern area. "What the hell? Wasn't Gilar just out here yelling up a storm? Where'd he go?"

NOW EAT!

Climb to the roof with the body and gorge ourselves. The encumberance penalty isn't too high, we have a climb speed.

>>9387501
Move to shaded location. CONSUME DWARF

We can collect our weapon, and his axe, later. We should be unconcerned, as we have enough gold to buy better.

>quest thread

>>9387534
Do this.
Then take any shinies he may have on him, as well as his armor and his axe.
Return to Claire.

>>9387564
Take his armor and any gear he had tied to him, yes, but we need to clean ourselves before we see Claire again. We're rank and bloody, plus, injured. We should tend to that, too, by eating rats.

>NOW EAT!
>Move to shaded location. CONSUME DWARF

Delicious! It takes a moment to get him out of his armor, and in the process you notice a vial just like the one he drank.

CHOOSE ONE
• Language: Dwarven
• All armor proficiencies
• All shield proficiencies
• All simple weapon proficiencies
• All maritial weapon proficiencies
• Dwarven weapon familiarity (treat dwarven waraxe and urgosh as martial weapons)
• Darkvision 60ft
• Move at base land speed even when wearing medium or heavy armor or when carrying a medium or heavy load
• Stability: gain a +4 bonus on ability checks made to resist being bull rushed or tripped when standing on the ground (but not when climbing, flying, riding, or otherwise not standing firmly on the ground).
• +2 racial bonus on saving throws against poison.
• +2 racial bonus on saving throws against spells and spell-like effects.
• +4 dodge bonus to Armor Class against monsters of the giant type. Any time a creature loses its Dexterity bonus (if any) to Armor Class, such as when it’s caught flat-footed, it loses its dodge bonus, too.
• +1 racial bonus on attack rolls against orcs and goblinoids.
FEATS
• Power Attack
• Toughness

"Oh shit guys, look at all this blood! It's EVERYWHERE!"

DARKVISION!

>>9387603
Power attack

>>9387501
>>9387501
Power Attack

>>9387603
>Move at base land speed even when wearing medium or heavy armor or when carrying a medium or heavy load
THIS, grab and drag off

>>9387603
Move at base land speed even when [...] carying a medium or heavy load.

>>9387603

Move at base land speed even when wearing medium or heavy armor or when carrying a medium or heavy load

This!

Also drink vial, then go spy on the onlookers.

Dark vision sounds useful. We wouldn't have to deal with the dangers of eating in the daytime then

Darkvision 60ft

Load shouldn't be a problem. not yet, anyway.
DARKVISION

Changing vote from carry to darkvision.

>Then take any shinies he may have on him, as well as his armor and his axe.
>Take his armor and any gear he had tied to him, yes, but we need to clean ourselves before we see Claire again.

Acquired:
Chainmail
41 gold
Dwarven waraxe
Buckler
4 flasks of high proof alcohol
50 feet of rope

>Also drink vial, then go spy on the onlookers.
>1d8+1=4
Current HP: 12/19

"Hey, there's a blood trail. Whatever attacked him went this way, hurry, Gilar might need our help!"

>>9387706
What's left of the corpse?

>>9387706
Quickly climb to the roofs and hide. Don't peek head out or anything stupid, unless someone sees you. Just hide for an hour, right nearby.

Also, Darkvision.

Darkvision 60ft acquired!

Your pupils narrow ever so slightly, your eyes turning slightly more gray. And the dark spaces around you are plain to see. Now, you can see everything in the dark. Now, you can go into the sewers with neither torch nor lantern. Now, you own the night.

>>9387706

What the heck did we acquire from eating?

We should take our new belongings and leave. Jump to another roof, drop to the alley, if it's clear, and skulk away to find a place to wash up. We should also stash any equipment we have which we don't want to carry with us, like the axe, as we're not proficient.

>>9387706
looks like it's time to leave, we aren't strong enough to take on a party of adventurers yet.

>>9387706

Who ARE these pesky adventurers? What do they look like?

>>9387768
jump on roof and flee. There are at least 2 more adventurers coming of about the same level so lets GTFO of here.

>>9387782
Do you plan on killing them? No? Then it doesn't matter.
We shouldn't risk getting seen. If we are, they'll want to halt us and ask questions about the blood and what we're doing. If we run away from those questions, they'll chase us down as the murderer of their friend.

Just slink away into the darkness and hide.

>>9387768
>Now, you own the night.
Fuck yes we do.

I second stashing the axe. Keep the chainmail, but wash off the blood. Tell Claire we bought it. Clean self up, go back to Claire. If she asks about our voice, convince her it's always been like that. Roll Bluff if necessary.

Hide and observe.

>>9387804
we could claim that we hit maturity

>What's left of the corpse?
Nothing but blood and bits of gore. You have a VERY efficient digestive system!

>Quickly climb to the roofs and hide. Don't peek head out or anything stupid, unless someone sees you. Just hide for an hour, right nearby.
>We should take our new belongings and leave. Jump to another roof, drop to the alley, if it's clear, and skulk away to find a place to wash up. We should also stash any equipment we have which we don't want to carry with us, like the axe, as we're not proficient.
>I second stashing the axe. Keep the chainmail, but wash off the blood. Tell Claire we bought it. Clean self up, go back to Claire. If she asks about our voice, convince her it's always been like that. Roll Bluff if necessary.
You gather up your new belongings, and quietly depart, going from rooftop to alleyway to make sure you've lost pursuit.

You could head back to the house of the family you devoured, or Old Maggie's place, perhaps, if you wish to clean up, unless you have another preference?

>Who ARE these pesky adventurers? What do they look like?
You don't have line of sight to them, and consensus is to flee rather than observe or engage.

>>9387804
It was because we were sick that we were talking so funny.

>>9387804
>>9387842
also we can switch to any voice that we have eaten

>>9387883
We only have the Child and the Hobo.
We have to take a language, or take the voice instead of a trait. That's how voices work.

>LOOK STATS
Hit Dice: 3d6+6 HP (12/19 HP)
Base Attack/Grapple: +1/+5
Cricket Bat +5 melee (1d6+4)
Claws +5 melee (1d4+2)
Bite +5 melee (1d6+4)
Crossbow +0 ranged (1d8)

AC 15 (+3 dex, +2 leather armor)
Str 18, Dex 17, Con 15, Int 10, Wis 17, Cha 14
Fort +5, Reflex +5, Will +4
15 foot climb speed
40 foot land speed
Membrane for gliding (40 ft (clumsy) in favourable winds)

Scent, Low Light Vision, Darkvision 60ft
Language: Common (young boy voice, man voice)

Total skill bonuses (when higher than stat):
Jump +17
Hide +13
Move Silently +13
Balance +7
Climb +6 (plus climb speed)
Swim +6
Disguise +5
Bluff +5
Knowledge (Local) +4

Feats:
• Stealthy
• Athletic
• Weapon Finesse
• Great Fortitude
• Point Blank Shot
• Skill focus: Bluff
• Run

>LOOK INVENTORY
Cricket Bat
Dwarven Waraxe (no proficiency)
Decent Clothes
20 ft + 50 ft rope
Leather Armor
Chainmail Armor (no proficiency)
Buckler (no proficiency)
125 gp, 30 silver, 53 copper
Scroll: Calm Animals
Scroll: Summon Nature's Ally I
Light Crossbow (no proficiency)
4 flasks of high proof alcohol
2 crossbow bolts (tipped with knockout poison)

>LOOK ALLIES
Claire (human wizard novice)

>>9387903
yes i know that i was just about to say that Claire doesn't need to hear our new voice

Is there a river nearby in which to wash ourselves? Perhaps we could eat a fish and gain water breathing,

>>9387940
Yeah, but if we do it now it'll be easier than trying to convince we've always sounded that way when we need to sound like an adult and she happens to be nearby.

THINK: POSSIBLE CHOICES OF ACTIONS

>Is there a river nearby in which to wash ourselves? Perhaps we could eat a fish and gain water breathing,
It's not close, but there is a river that powers the town's waterwheels. You're closer to the animal shelter or house that you broke into and ate the inhabitants of. Although, those disappearances MIGHT have been noticed by now.

>We only have the Child and the Hobo. We have to take a language, or take the voice instead of a trait. That's how voices work.
Correct.

>>9387940
Well, we could use our new voice. Then say that we got it through a weird method. Say she doesn't want to know.

>>9388018
Hit the river. Travel merely shows us more of the city. Stay n the shadows and get clean in a hidden spot, like under a pier.

>>9387963
a toad would be better as Amphibious is better than Aquatic

>>9388036
Easier to catch, too.

>Well, we could use our new voice. Then say that we got it through a weird method. Say she doesn't want to know.

Or just say that the new one is our normal one, that the kid one was from being injured/poisoned/etc.

Either way we should get back soon, we've been out a while and we said we were just taking a little walk.

>>9388075
We need to clean ourself up first. We don't want to be covered in blood when we get there, right?

>Hit the river. Travel merely shows us more of the city. Stay n the shadows and get clean in a hidden spot, like under a pier.

Sure. Should take you about 20-30 minutes to walk there. Confirm?

Meanwhile, where do you want to stash the axe? And I'm guessing you don't want to switch to chainmail armor yet, since being nonproficient makes already bad armor check penalties crippling. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>>9388150
We should stash it on a roof near Claire's place, especially if we can hide them someplace where they won't be rained upon.

A 20 - 30 minute walk would be nice. Maybe we'll find more pets/vermin to eat on the way.

>>9388150
Confirming.

also
>nonproficient
Forgot about that since my characters never wear armor. That fucks us over a bit until we find someone with proficiency. Don't switch yet.

Keep equipment, tell Claire we're collecting stuff for traveling in the future. Stash at her place.

Clean up and head back to the girls house, don't be seen getting there.

>>9388184
I'm pretty sure a warrior NPC classed person would have the proficiency. Won't be hard to acquire.

>>9388199
we had the choice to get the proficiency but Darkvision was more important

>>9388237
No one is arguing that darkvision was less important, only that we'll have to get that proficiency sooner or later.

Question if we adsorb a fish could we only breathe in water?

You get to the river without incident, and a couple bites to eat on the way that don't have anything you haven't acquired already (HP=14/19). Cat snacks are getting harder to find in your normal operating area, you muse, stroking the thick manly stubble that appeared ever since you ate the dwarf. The town is quiet the night after a Pelorian holy day.

You get to the river, and get cleaned up. The water is cold, but you should be mostly dry by the time you get back. You've gotten a better idea of the surroundings on the way to the river, and noted a possible guard post for later dining. You may want to scope that out for a day/night or two before partaking, though. And Claire will be getting worried.

Actions?

>>9388352
we should be able to breath underwater as well as in air

Return to Claire's place. Socialize. Let her do most of the talking. Learn.

>Question if we adsorb a fish could we only breathe in water?

Highly doubtful! Your newly acquired traits haven't shown any sort of harmful effects as they mesh with your body. Likely the worst side effect would be that the gills are a clear sign you are not human.

>>9388395
seconded

>>9388476
gtfo

>>9388395
>>9388459
Third.

>Keep equipment, tell Claire we're collecting stuff for traveling in the future. Stash at her place.
>We should stash it on a roof near Claire's place, especially if we can hide them someplace where they won't be rained upon.
Second one, although putting it on a roof might draw attention or expose the gear to weather (even after covering).

>Return to Claire's place. Socialize. Let her do most of the talking. Learn.
"Oh, I was starting to get a bit worried! How was your walk? I was waiting for you to get back so I could lock the door and go to bed. You get the couch, but I put a blanket and pillow for you there."
Her eyes light up a bit at hearing your new voice.

End this for tonight and archive, Temp DM?

>>9388527
"The walk was fine, sorry to worry you."

"I didn't realize you went to bed so early. Sorry for keeping you up. Thank you, for your help."

>>9388527
Bluff dat shit, yo. Was always like that.

>>9388527
"I had a great walk. Though the people may be a little rough, the town is really quaint, and the prices here are cheaper than I imagined. I managed to buy something to help my throat for half the price I was expecting."

>>9388638
This

>>9388638
DO IT

>End this for tonight and archive, Temp DM?
Soon, yes. Probably will have a shortish Sunday session, this always makes me happy to run it.

>"The walk was fine, sorry to worry you."
>"I didn't realize you went to bed so early. Sorry for keeping you up. Thank you, for your help."
>Bluff dat shit, yo. Was always like that.
>"I had a great walk. Though the people may be a little rough, the town is really quaint, and the prices here are cheaper than I imagined. I managed to buy something to help my throat for half the price I was expecting."
>1d20+7=25 (+2 circumstance bonus for well spoke plausible speech)
"It sounds like you're feeling better! I'm glad. And you're welcome.

It's really not that early at night, though. Deliveries are always busiest in the morning. That reminds me, do you feel up to having me test your running out tomorrow? Maybe a bit after noon?"

>>9388638
This

What do we sound like now by the way? As far as tone, depth, etc.

>>9388685
"Noontime? Sounds alright to me. If you don't need anything right now though, I'm feeling quite tired..."

Go to sleep if she hasn't got anything else to say.

>>9388685
Sounds good. Couch it is.

We should start looking into taking out the wizards at the library. Magic for us would be good (even if we've got to spend time learning spells and resting up instead of roaming and nomming at night, ugh. Maybe sorcerers would be better, at least they only have to rest? Or warlocks?), and we'd have a new base of operations plus enable claire to get working good magic to help us.

shave the beard off

>>9388826
it probably makes us easier to identify

>>9388826
No, it's MANLY stubble. Chicks dig that.

Think we should hit up the sewers on the next day?

>>9388920
No, not yet. We need better combat capacities. We should get a better weapon we're proficient with, and we should prepare the city for escape/evasion in case we get caught another time.

>What do we sound like now by the way? As far as tone, depth, etc.
Somewhat deep voice, and a bit husky.

>"Noontime? Sounds alright to me. If you don't need anything right now though, I'm feeling quite tired..."
>Go to sleep if she hasn't got anything else to say.
"Sorry! I didn't mean to keep you up! I'll see you here after noon tomorrow--feel free to sleep in though, you probably need the rest."

With a content stomach, sleep comes all too easily.

Can someone archive this? Next day will start off next session (probably Sunday).

>>9388986
Getting gator traits would give us that. Or whatever else is down there, I remember it's supposed to be full of nasty things.

>>9389028
Gator traits? Better bite skill?

we should hunt some spiders

>>9389053
Plus natural armor. Don't they also have an auto-grapple? Brb, checking

>>9389068
Where do you find giant spiders in a city? Unless you want to do some hunting outside it?

>>9389086
the spiders come in all sizes and mostly have the same bonuses

Why eat crocs?

+4 nat armor, 19 Str, 17 Con, 1d8+Str bite attack

pluuuuus...

Improved Grab (Ex)

To use this ability, a crocodile must hit with its bite attack. It can then attempt to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity. If it wins the grapple check, the crocodile establishes a hold on the opponent with its mouth and drags it into deep water, attempting to pin it to the bottom.

>>9389104
Yeah but we already got told from the first DM that they have to be a certain size to give us bonuses. Otherwise we'd eat nothing but bugs.

We should be wary. Picking up inhuman traits might make us appear less human. I think we should focus on getting some feats and proficiencies to mitigate penalties before we go into someplace described as 'nasty'

>>9389141
>>9389141
"a monstrous spider- a Tiny sized Brazillian Leaping Spider or Sydney Funnelweb at the least"

>>9389012
How do I archive the thread?

We should find a dog for Track, and maybe for the free trip attempt on a successful bite attack.

We should pick up some proficiencies (at least Crossbow, which is Simple) and perhaps try to get Power Attack. Power attacking on a full attack when we have surprise could be very deadly. then again, our BAB is only 1 for now...

Gator skin and gator snout will make us easy to pick out of a crowd. I don't think we should bother until we're more capable all-around.

>>9389141
MMMMM. Bugs.

>>9389261
I'm sure we are going to have an obviously messed up looking mouth if we are able to grapple and trip with it after we bite.

Crossbow proficiency would be excellent. As would more BAB, but a dwarf with just 1 (presumably) put the hurt on us pretty hard there.

>>9389289
This. Subtle and silent is better for us.

We should work on shoring up weaknesses, and being prepared to flee and evade pursuers. Better attacks are nice, but I'm very concerned, along with >>9389289, that we'd become less able to infiltrate. Bluff/Disguise should be higher on our list of things to get than a better bite.

>>9389206
Someone already did.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Doppleganger

Vote.

Has anyone figured out the classes and monsters with must-have abilities yet?

i was looking at spiders for these traits:
tremorsense 60ft
+8 racial bonus on Climb checks
and Hunting spiders have a +10 racial bonus on Jump checks

>>9389413
Most of our beginning skills can be gathered from Experts. Rogues should be saved for class abilities, and Fighters for feats. Warriors are good for proficiencies. We can likely do some reconnaisance to figure out where some of the town guard live and sneak into their homes to coup de grace them in their sleep. Fewer guards = less threat in the city.

>>9389413
Choker
Improved Grab (Ex)
To use this ability, a choker must hit a Large or smaller opponent with a tentacle attack. It can then attempt to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity. If it wins the grapple check, it establishes a hold and can constrict. Chokers receive a +4 racial bonus on grapple checks, which is already included in the statistics block.

Quickness (Su)
Although not particularly dexterous, a choker is supernaturally quick. It can take an extra standard action or move action during its turn each round.

>>9389413
Choker, rogue, and that one type of spider are NUMBER ONE TOP PRIORITY NO EXCEPTIONS.
For extra action, sneak attack, and better jumping, respectively.

We need to get 60+ foot move speed, then eat another dwarf for the full speed in heavy armor/load ability. Admittedly, we don't exactly have plate mail to wear, but we'll kill someone wearing some eventually.

>>9389442
Tremorsense would be nice, bit the other abilities would overlap with the racial bonuses to those skills we already have. Besides, we have a climb speed.

>>9389463
Don't thri-keen have +30 racial to jump?

>>9389485
yes but these ones are higher

>>9389466
Plan for the short term. The speed is more important than the armor/encumbrance. Besides, we're very strong.

If we NEED Natural armor, horses are good bets. I think we decided there were some other good abilities we could pick up form them, too.

We should consider getting a better ranged attack. Why don't we buy more crossbow bolts with our gold?

Owls have +14 racial bonus on Move Silently checks

>>9389519
Natural armor will probably effect how we look to much

>>9389466
And they'll probably have something else we want at the same time. Look at how close we were to taking power attack instead of darkvision, if the first few votes had decided.

We should check and see if we can find someone powerful\whatever that is on their death bed.

>>9389519
People would notice, and this would get back to Claire. Do we want her knowing we're buying Crossbow bolts? Esp. Once they start finding people murdered with bolts?

>>9389519
Horses can give us good speed. Might be good to get before our run test, do that in the morning, get cleaned up, run as fast as a horse for the courier tryout.

Good luck getting back into that stable though, that's probably under lock and key.

>>9389577
They won't find them murdered. They'll find bloody smears. Besides, it getting back to Claire should only be a problem if crossbows are illegal. Being armed isn't an issue, SHE'S SEEN OUR CROSSBOW!

>>9389510
Where the hell are we gonna find a thri-kreen?

HEY TEMPDM IF YOU'RE STILL AROUND

CAN WE GET A BONUS IF WE GET DRAWFAGS TO DRAW SOME PART OF THE QUEST?

>>9389604
I brought that up last time. This is most likely a temperate climate. Thri-kreen don't migrate THAT far.

>>9389604
Mail-order Thri-kreen.

>>9389604
that's why i said the we should hunt some spiders easier to find and although +10 isn't as good as +30 it's still better than what we have.

>>9389648
I suppose, but I don't think we should go out of our way. Eating a horse for +20 speed would give us +12 to jump, and would be easier to acquire.

>>9389663
a but the last horse we eat only had 50ft so it would be +10

>>9389613
>CAN WE GET A BONUS IF WE GET DRAWFAGS TO DRAW SOME PART OF THE QUEST?

YES

>>9389688
Some horses have 60ft speed

>>9389688
Light horses have 60 speed. And Endurance.

>>9389696
WE LOVE YOU, TEMPDM!

>>9389715
>>9389722
my bad i thought we ate the light riding horse

NEW DISCUSSION: What should we pester drawfags to draw?

What do we look like currently? Any particular scenes?

>>9389783
Any new physical transformations?

>>9389783
the fight with the dwarf

>>9389735
THE LOVE IS MUTUAL

YOU PLAYERS ARE AWESOME

no comments on eating some Owl for there delicious +14 racial bonus on Move Silently checks?

>>9389783
Jumping off a building and and biting a dwarf in the neck midair sounds nice.

>>9389833
This scene.
As for physical appearance, we're wearing dirty-but-not-very-dirty clothing, and I imagine our face looks vaguely human, but with some features not quite fully-formed.

SOMEONE GET THIS DRAWN.

>>9389910
Oh, and I nearly forgot, we better have our cricket bat in hand, regardless of scene.
We're like fucking Shawn with that bat.

I wonder if there is a forest near this town?

>>9389943
I think it was said there is.

>>9389932
FUCK YES

>>9390017
good lots of tasty things in a forest

I think it's funny that while there's so many awesome things we can take from people and creatures, just getting things that a level 1 PC has is a big concern for us right now. I mean, who really thinks about armor or weapon proficiencies as being really important?

>>9390161
armor or weapon proficiencies important it's just that most animals are easier to kill than npcs

>>9390161
Exactly. Though I'm sure that a first level warrior could give us weapon or armor proficiencies, and they're not that hard to find.

>>9390251
like that expert with the crossbow that almost killed us or the dwarf we just fought.

>>9390340
>>9390251
>>9390161
which proficiencies should we go for?
Simple Weapons
or Martial Weapons

Did anyone else realize that if that adventuring party was a real-life group, we just killed "that guy"? The guy who gets drunk, pisses on buildings, and then tries to fight the first thing he sees?

WE ARE THE DM'S RETALIATION.

>>9390425
Both, ideally. Simple weapons will be easier to come across and carry openly, but martial weapons do more damage. Some exotic weapons would be excellent to get as well, plus improvised weapon proficiency if we ever find the right person.

Of course, each of those is probably keeping us from having something else that would be helpful. So many choices...

>>9390432
you know those flasks of high proof alcohol? if we run into someone we can't handle we splash them with one and now they smell drunk throwing double on there statements.

>>9390537
doubt*

>>9390537
>>9390561
Just because they reek of alcohol doesn't mean they sound drunk.

That said, we could light it on fire, bribe people with it, get a person friendly and off-balance before eating them, or just use it to relax at nights.

We need to start making stockpiles of weapons and gear, hidden around the town on the rooftops.

>>9390634
Maybe not rooftops, but tucked away nooks and crannies, yes. Or in buildings we know to be empty (MAYBE BECAUSE WE ATE THE INHABITANTS).

>>9390634
>>9390709
EAT CARPENTER
LEARN CARPENTRY
BUILD FAKE WALLS IN EMPTY HOUSES THAT LEAD TO HIDDEN WEAPON CACHES
FUCKING PROFIT

>>9390634
If by weapons you mean cobblestones on rooftops, I concur completely. Having a couple heavy rocks to throw from any roof in our hunting grounds would be very useful for us. It would likely take much of a day to do, but it's both a good investment and a great way to lapse time if we need to wait a while for interesting things to happen.

>>9391623
we should buy some Daggers as we have that proficiency and they cost 2gp

>>9391706
Daggers and crossbow bolts. They're dirt cheap, too.

>>9391623
We could be EATING THINGS instead.

Also, rocks might get noticed. We don't want to get noticed. A little over a day and we've already drawn the notice of a low-level adventuring party. Sure, they're not a major threat right now, but NEITHER ARE WE.

We will be. Soon. Still, we almost got killed by that dwarf, who based on his stats as presented was a level 1 fighter.

>>9392035
If we just eat things, we'll run into big trouble later on. I'd rather we were more cautious and calculating, but the others are very gung-ho.

I'd rather we spent some time in preparation. we can sate our hunger on easier prey and move on to doing work to improve our chances of survival. If all we did was eat, Claire would be dead, and we'd likely still be arguing over what we should have taken from her.

>>9392184
we may end up eating her anyway as she is good something in alignment

>>9392184
I like cautious and calculating, but achieving critical mass with our evolutions might do as much or more as having contingency plans and magic items.

Or, maybe not. Allies are a huge boon in 3.5 due to the action economy. I somehow doubt we're going to get many more allies though; Claire seems very open-minded about us (that one anon who suggested she may have picked us up because she likes that 14 Charisma we've got might be onto something), but that dwarf recognized us as some sort of abomination, and most other people haven't been exactly eager to make our acquaintance. We should be careful--we don't need a horde of paladins on our ass, or worse yet, adventurer parties out for a bounty on our head. But if we can get some more people helping us out (whether they get direction right from us, or through Claire), then that would certainly help. If nothing else, it would funnel food into our waiting jaws.

All that said, I'm quite glad we waited a bit after meeting Claire, and proved that despite being happy to eat anything we're not a complete dick that bites the hand who helped us. Also glad that we've given ourselves goals outside of EAT MORE. Makes it a lot cooler.

>>9392188
If we avoid eating townsfolk I'm sure she could be ok with us. If we ate enemies of the city we could even be heroic.

Fuck that, though. I signed on to be a monster. Let's just lie to her and never let her know the truth.

>>9392188
Friends are good to have. Someone to pick us up when we fall, watch over us when we sleep, or get the guard off our backs with a story is invaluable. We shouldn't throw that away lightly.

If anything, instead of letting her suspect us of being a monster and have a moral clash about aiding us, either hide it well, and/or convince her that we're not evil. Save a few puppies, eat a few families.

Although, that suggestion about eating enemies of the state... having us be a high-caliber assassin at some point would be cool.

>>9392341
so corrupt her?

>>9392352
that would be my choice

>>9392369
or if we eat her we should take her shape so we get easy access to the wizard school after eating another female for there voice.

>>9392352
>>9392369

Perhaps. Or perhaps instead of trying to change her alignment, we convince her that being our friend is being good, even if we do some things that may be perceived as evil. Hell, we aren't even doing it out of malice, honestly. We're just hungry most of the time and have a desire to grow into something powerful.

Helping her become a full wizard should do a lot to get her seeing things our way. Maybe get into discussions about how monsters who eat people because they're hungry aren't evil, get her agreed on that, let it sit for a while, and then if she finds out--hey, we're just hungry. If we were evil, we wouldn't have helped her out and been her friend, right? A few selfless acts could go a long way toward a convincing argument.

Or we could just corrupt her, but I rather like this kind shy girl.

>>9392415
We've been told there's a decent number of low-level wizards out there. Shouldn't be hard to pluck one of those away. Better than throwing away an ally that could prove useful to us for a long time.

>>9392478
yes i agree i was just saying that it was a option that is available

>>9392415
If we want voices, we may want to find someone with Perform: Singing, or Perform: Oratory. There will be plenty of experts who do.

I don't want to harm Claire. She was nice to us, and I don't want to be evil, merely amoral. She helped us for nothing, so we owe her.

>>9392546
maybe there is a bardic collage in town.

>>9392457
we are at best neutral.

>>9392546
That pretty much sums it up for me. Amoral is fine, outright evil doesn't suit us. Claire is a friend, we don't eat friends. Especially not with all the other potential meals out there.

>>If we want voices, we may want to find someone with Perform: Singing, or Perform: Oratory. There will be plenty of experts who do.
This might be worth looking into. Not as vital as some other traits, but a couple of really good voices wouldn't hurt things.

>>9392457
We should help her by getting her the things she needs. First, she needs money, so we can give her most of our gold. We seem intent on never spending it.

We could get more gold, if we try. We haven't been making a serious attempt as it is.

>>9392546
>>9392621
the whole eating her thing was sort of a last resort like if for some reason she tried to kill us.

>>9392664
we didn't look human enough to try the shops when they were open last.

>>9392677
I'd even hesitate to hill her then. If she threw us out, I'd rather just avoid her.

>>9392664
She needs money to access scrolls and spells. If we take possession of the library by eating the wizards in charge ("oh yeah we bought it from them, our inheritance came in, least we could do" or something), she has that access. Or, money works. We could get her that alchemist equipment she mentioned last thread as a gift.

We've been more focused on improvement than wealth, and short of using it to buy magic items I think that's a good call.

>>9392677
I don't think she'll turn on us, but if she does then that would be the go to option. As things stand it looks like we'd have to really fuck up first.

>>9392700
I suppose avoiding her works too. It's not like we have to stay in this city, once we're strong enough to make it on our own. Regeneration or fast healing, or just a bunch of potions/wands would help out a lot with that.

Or we could just stay in the city as our base of operations and keep making our hunting radius larger.

>>9392722
I don't think we could kill and eat the wizards without her finding out about it. We could steal from them ,and try to convince her it was justified because they're elitist assholes who're holding her back, but she'll hear about it if they disappear, and if we have their things, she'll be suspicious at BEST.

We could definitely buy useful things. Alchemist's fire could be useful. More ranged weapons would be nice, too.

maybe we should eat some more of the criminal elements in town. that's like killing two birds with one stone. evolve and get money

>>9392873
Yes, but it also means there will be more guards who aren't busy, and can come after us. Why not eat some guards first? Good combat feats that way.

>>9392873
plus awesome sneak attack

>>9392816
It all depends on how we set things up. "Horrible accident" that leaves the library ownerless? We use our money to secure the deed and open it up for access to novice wizards, instead of letting it close? Now we look like a hero, especially if they can't find enough evidence for any suspicious rumors to start.

Buying useful things is handy too, I suppose.

Personally, I think we should be using our +13 Hide and Move to do some reconnaissance on some prospective targets, and kill them in their sleep. No danger to us and a bigger payoff. Plus, with forethought, we could eat people who would pose a greater danger to us than the random folk we've consumed to date, like mercenaries, town guards, rough criminals, and the like.

We may want to try joining the local criminal organization instead of eating it, because we could have better opportunities to stab them in the back that way. Plus we could take one of their appearances and divert attention.

I get the feeling that once we have all the low-level abilities which commoners can give us, we'll start taking faces more regularly, especially if we let Claire know we have the power, one way or another. I'd like to see that occur, because it would permit us to be as sloppy as we've been, and still be safer than we are.

so eat a prostitute steal her voice, use new voice and disguise to get at a lonely guard. eat guard get some weapon proficiency. them start killing the criminal elements in town.

>>9392995
that's part of why i think we should find an Owl to eat the +14 racial bonus on Move Silently checks would be a net gain of +10

i just read all the threads and it looks like the Improved Initiative feat the we got of the Small Viper has been forgotten