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    139 KB Pokemon Tabletop Adventures General Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)12:42 No.9875163  

    Before we start, here's the page on 1d4chan that explains everything for the uninitiated.

    And here's a .rar with all the rules as they currently stand.

    Today's subject: Good DM practices.

    That's one of the things I worry about if I ever were to start up a game. What would be an appropriate way and rate to mete out pokemon, ESPECIALLY if my players are dead set on catching certain ones? Should it all be tied to random tables, or should it be at the DM's discretion, or should the DM ask his players what pokemon they would like to see beforehand and plan out encounters using their player's preferences as a rough guideline? And then, what if you throw a powerful 'mon at your players and he rolls a natural 1 on his d100 roll and catches it? How do you deal with the power imbalance you've just created?
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)12:48 No.9875295
    Here's what I've done.

    Prior to the campaign's start, I've asked my players to provide with a list of 5 pokemon they'd like to capture. I make sure that over the course of the campaign, at least 2 pokemon from each player's list appears at some point over the course of the campaign.

    When the trainers are in populated cities, if they choose to go to a training post, and they are offering a powerful capture they've just made because they don't want it, offer some pokemon from their list at low levels.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)12:49 No.9875332
    >PTA thread
    >Second post is Dr. Mr. Stark
    >I have to go to work in 10 minutes

    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)12:52 No.9875409
    Perhaps someone can explain this to me. I've purposefully not paid attention to these threads, since /tg/ rarely actually gets anything done, but nonetheless progress seems to be established.

    However, when I did stick my head in, I was told that pokemon are unimportant little side details, and the trainer's class was more important to the gameplay than the pokemon.

    You can understand why I found this disturbing. What do you say to my admittedly several month old statement?
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)12:52 No.9875417
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    How to make up wild encounters on the fly:

    Based on the place your players have decided to randomly start wandering, pick a species that would make sense to appear there.
    Make 5-6 of the lowest stage in its evolutionary line appear and make 1-2 of its middle or final form appear as well.
    Give them appropriate levels.
    Pop up the pokedex and look at their base stats for HP. Multiply that by 10.
    Deal straight damage based on your rolls with attacks, subtract their levels from whatever damage you take with them.
    It won't reflect their pokemon's stats perfectly but sometimes you need to be able to spontaneously have encounter when your players say "Fuck plot, it's time for a new teammate"
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)12:55 No.9875502
    I'd say "Trainer levels are more important than pokemon" is more than a little obscuring of the reality of the system. Pokemon are important (They are your weapons and HP bars and human shields and best friends and all that) but the Trainer classes are equally important because they can make your pokemon better and more effective. Also, the classes tied to your pokemon are HEAPS more effective than classes who operate independently from pokemon. So the dynamic IS different, but pokemon are by no means a "Side detail."
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)12:56 No.9875511
    Bored skitty here, im bored and lonely, someone add my msn for a chat / cam! 55
    if youre a wailord, add me: wailover@pokemail.pkm !! 63
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)12:57 No.9875534
    Fair enough. As I was typing that out, I realized it sounded like I got trolled, but I *did* notice that 90% of the time discussion was not about pokemon, but about psychics and brawlers and gamblers and whatnot.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)12:57 No.9875540
    I lol'd
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)12:57 No.9875544
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    I'm not sure where you've gotten the impression that pokemon are little side details. They aren't. Rather, the trainer's class and abilities are equally important to the pokemon you use. They work together to create your character. Pokemon and Class together as one player, rather then a player and their 6 player characters they control.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)12:59 No.9875576
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    Sorry, man.
    I'm at work and I decided to hop in and on the front page was a new threads with lots of questions I've never seen before..
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)13:01 No.9875614
    So Mr Stark, how close is it to being "finished"? and by "finished", I mean "playable"
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)13:03 No.9875650
    Psychics and Martial artists are extremely popular choices because they sound cool, but they are both the classes who don't effect their pokemon much, and are somewhat underpowered because of it.

    Think of pokemon as like having caster levels. Martial artists and Psychics are like Fighters. They're good at the beginning thanks to extra damage dealing and durability, but as the game goes on their effectiveness drops off as the Ace Trainer starts out-damaging him, the Breeder's poke-stats and movesets go out of control, and the researcher's skills make battles tactically simpler.

    Coordinators and Rangers are a little underpowered too, but they back it up with sheer utility (Moneyfarming and Poke-swiss army knife respectively, and both are MADE for CHA-rape.)
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)13:03 No.9875653
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    >And then, what if you throw a powerful 'mon at your players and he rolls a natural 1 on his d100 roll and catches it? How do you deal with the power imbalance you've just created?

    This is an easy one:
    Make the pokemon hate the player.
    As GM, you have control over the behavior of unloyal pokemon, while the player maintains control over their pokemon who are loyal.
    Pokemon who are really powerful need to be tamed by players showing their own power and being kind to the pokemon.

    An example of this is a player I once GMed in my first Pre-Alpha campaign. He rolled a 00 on a level 45 Arcanine when the whole party's strong pokemon was 25.
    In the process of catching it, they also killed a few of its cubs and separated it from the rest of its cubs forever.
    When he first sent it out and gave it a command, it about faced and tried to rip his neck out.

    It took a while, but he eventually broke it and it became loyal.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)13:13 No.9875825
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    Way and rate to mete our pokemon. Aside from encounters in the wilderness there might be actual professional breeders in settled areas. While getting tourney cred for a capture is the MOST IMPORTANT thing on an OCD trainer's mind there's the preservation of an expensive breed's bloodline as well.

    I'm thinking geographical area vs season vs how depleted a region is. Not going for an exact simulation but having the Trainer's League issue poaching demerits and there be local release programs might make things seem plausible.

    Random tables seem a little silly unless they're tied to WHERE the players are going to be. Also make it a decision between each method. With the random table thy might win BIg but by saving up whatever sort of xp or Plot Points this game has their prize catch is an assured wait away.

    The 'Dream Team' method of asking players ahead of time what selection they want might fold into building the party. Especially if there's some sort of mechanism to foster TRADING between them. Might end up being the tavern cliche for groups to meet but at least it's an in-setting method.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)13:14 No.9875851
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    People seem to be running alpha campaigns now.
    If you want more extensive rules and whatnot, I'm looking to get Beta out in July. I'm positive Axiom is doing well on the Player's Guide and I'm nearly done (Within the week I'll be ready to start indexing it in pdf form) with the Bestiary. The GM book is all drafted out and will be made over the course of June.
    We're getting shit done.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)13:18 No.9875904
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    It's important to note that this means of generating wilds is needed because you never know when the trainers will go to terrain type X, but when it comes to plot battles, Gym Battles, important trainer events etc. you should plan out those stats for the encounters as you would any other tabletop game.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)13:52 No.9876421
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    I see a lot of 'how can we help', though not in this particular thread. Anyway, I have a boring job for someone who wants to contribute:
    I'd like the 5 pictures I'm going to be posting to have the Rotoms cropped out, shrunken and then placed inside one border similar to the Gastrodon image I'll post after the 5 rotom forms. This will be for the Bestiary. I'd like the rotom forms image to be the same resolution as the rest of the images. If you can get it done, post a trip and I'll add you to the credits. If you finish it and the thread is dead please link me to it on my steam page.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)13:53 No.9876433
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    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)13:53 No.9876436
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    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)13:54 No.9876447
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    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)13:55 No.9876455
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    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)13:58 No.9876487
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    Combine them much like this please.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)13:58 No.9876494
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    Or this.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)14:09 No.9876650
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    like this?
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)14:11 No.9876687
    Fucking yes.
    Who do I have to thank?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)14:14 No.9876729
    just write the check out to TehT
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)14:16 No.9876762
    That first picture is sooo cute....but so sad too.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)14:17 No.9876775
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    Thank you.
    I need to save space on Rotom "Form X" because of the extra rules were Rotom will actually be able to possess any electronic device and get a Move based on the GM's decision.
    Rotomcycle/Rotomcar/Rotomcannon/Rotomputer is go.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)14:21 No.9876823
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)14:23 No.9876849
    Dr. Mr. Stark, I've been playing this with my friends for a few sessions and we've been having a lot of fun with it, but there's one thing that confuses me. I think I read the rules governing it somewhere, but I can't seem to find them again.

    What determines the order in which trainers get to issue commands? Do the Poke's go about those commands as soon as they're issued, or will there be a delay between it being issued and acted out if the trainer is fast and the Poke is slow? So far we've been just basing it on the Poke's speed, but I thought I read about the trainer's DEX being figured in somewhere.

    Also, how do you determine how many points / level a Poke gets to allocate? So far I've been using a chart based on the average of their base stats (5-6 = 1/lvl, 7 = 1.25/lvl, 8 = 1.5/lvl and so on), and it works wonderfully, but I'm just wondering how we're intended to.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)14:23 No.9876857
    glad to be of service
    i was bored out of my skull anyway :P
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)14:24 No.9876863
    I have two main questions.

    One, in the new Tracks of Light Pokemon Ranger game, Pokemon Rangers can use 'Ranger Signs' to summon Pokemon.

    Will this be in the game?

    Also, how do you handle one-on-one fights, gym matches, or other situations where only one trainer is really involved at one time without basically telling everyone else to wait.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)14:33 No.9877004
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    It will be incorporated into DotDotDot's Acolyte.
    During the Mystic update Ranger, Martial Artist, Capture Specialist and Researcher will be getting new Advanced Features.
    I am going to personally work with DotDotDot to revise the Acolyte and incorporate it into canon as the new Ranger Advanced Class. The new Capture Specialist Advanced Class will be the Snagger.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)14:36 No.9877045
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    Round order:
    Trainer Actions
    followed by
    Pokemon Actions

    During the start of each round, Trainers have their turns first. Refer to a trainer's DEX stat to see which trainers go first.

    During their turn, a trainer can make a Trainer Action, Issue a Command and Shift.
    Trainer Actions are;
    Using a feature.
    Using the Pokedex.
    Using an item.
    Returning/Sending Out a Pokemon.
    Making a Trainer Attack.

    Shifting is moving. Trainer can move 5 meters or 5 spaces per round, adding (or subtracting) DEX modifer.

    Issuing a command is telling your pokemon what to do during that round. If you use a Poke Ball, this counts as your "Issue a Command" for that round. Your pokemon may still Shift but they may not use a Move.

    If you send out a pokemon, that pokemon may not use a Move or Shift that round.

    Speed determines the order that pokemon move during the round after the trainer turns are done.

    During a pokemon's turn (the pokemon you issued a command to), They may use a Move and Shift.

    Moves are what each pokemon have to use as attacks/buffs etc. during their turn.

    Shifting is how much that pokemon can move during the round referring to the pokemon's Speed Capabilities.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)14:38 No.9877097
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    Issuing commands happen simultaneously, though the pokemon can only act on them in the order their Speed determines.

    Every time a pokmon levels up, you allocate 1 stat point to one of its 6 stats.

    Are there any question regarding how to level up pokemon or does everyone have the Base Relation thing figured out? I know that this is the most common thing that players get confused about.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)14:39 No.9877113
    So it is always using a Move and then Shifting, in that order, or can you Shift and then Move?
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)14:40 No.9877142
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    You may Shift then use a Move.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)14:46 No.9877241
    Thanks, that really clears things up.
    But if all Poke's gain a flat 1 per level, doesn't that render evolution almost pointless since you're only gaining a few points from it?
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)14:50 No.9877305
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    It changed the pokemon's Size, Capabilities, and Move sets.
    Now, if you want to have a Squirtle forever, you're not completely outclassed by your foe's Blastoise, though it has an edge. All pokemon gain EXP at the same rate anyway.
    Again, the core rules can always be modified for your gaming group.
    That people want to play Pokemon: Tabletop Adventures at all is thrilling to myself and the rest of my team who has contributed.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)14:51 No.9877328
    This makes sense, after all, Ash' pokes stay unevolved for long periods of time and constantly outclass their evolutions.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)15:01 No.9877502
    But then, a Magikarp could potentially outclass a Gyarados.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)15:02 No.9877529
    If a pokemon, upon evolving, has it's Sp. Att., Sp. Def., and Defense rise by 1, it HP and Speed rise by 2, and it's Attack value go up by 3, that is still a net total of +10 points to different stats.

    When you consider that a pokemon only gets +1 to a single stat at each level, I don't how you can consider an increase of +10 to a pokemon's stats insignificant.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)15:02 No.9877530
    will the beta release contain more description, and a sort of Idiots guide to the rules, i was having a hard time trying to understand alot of them, mostly because im rather new to tabletop adventure games, but i know i would really appreciate some really simple explanation of parts when you release the beta
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)15:03 No.9877535
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    Well, maybe but the differences between Magikarp's Base Stats and Gyarados' Base Stats are drastically different, not only a few numbers. And even if a single Magikarp outclass some Gyarados, is that really such a big deal in a tabletop game?
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)15:05 No.9877578
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    It will be provided in the Beta. This system is... complicated in its simplicity. I will provide rules for everything that needs it, and will include more detailed rules if they are requested in Beta Updates.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)15:09 No.9877636
    also isnt splash the only move a magicarp can learn, and with such a low powered attack it may outclass it in some stats, but it would never do the damage or have the attack variation to deal with different kinds of enemies
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)15:11 No.9877650
    Magikarp learns Splash, Tackle, Flail, and Bounce.

    All but Splash are damaging moves.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)15:15 No.9877709
    Let's not forget a Pusher who can turn that Magikarp into an Earthquaker.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)15:17 No.9877739
    hmm, i didnt know this, it could be due to the fact i havent trained a magicarp up since G1, when the beta comes out im catching and keeping a magicarp as a magicarp
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)15:29 No.9877961
    Reflecting on this, wouldn't a LOW dex be advantageous, since you get to declare your Poke's move after having heard what everyone else is going to do, and plan in accordance?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)15:34 No.9878032
    I would assume that you would have the option to delay- depending on what you wish to accomplish.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)15:41 No.9878115
    Giving commands is supposed to happen simultaneously for both trainers, but I'm not sure how that would even work on the tabletop. Write down commands and just hope your opponent picked something you counter?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:03 No.9878458
    Thread kinda died there. HEY STARK, would you be so kind as to give further clarification on issuing commands?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:10 No.9878587
    Hey, guy, minor unrelated gripe: I just downloaded this here thing, and had a look at the Pokédex. Says Pidgeot has "Sky 7" under Capabilities. It also says this corresponds to an average speed of about 50mph. Thing is, it is consistently stated to be able to move at Mach 2, which is somewhere in the neighbourhood of 1500 mph, or in this nomenclature, Sky 10. Explanation?

    Also, dude, the Capabilities explanation doc. 1000 mph != 8000 km/h. Something went wrong there.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:30 No.9878905
    I'd assume he just ignored that because it's potentially game-breaking. I almost wrote "silly," then I realized it's Pokemon we're dealing with here.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)16:39 No.9879055
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    Sky 7, because to actually fly at mach two, planes are made of special metals so they don't melt.

    In terms of issuing commands I need to clarify something:
    The "issuing commands" Flavor wise all happen at the start of a round, but when it gets to your pokemon's turn in game, when they actually do anything is when you choose what they do. What this means is that you are 'retroactively' commanding pokemon when it is their turn. The reason 'commanding' happens at the beginning is because there are going to be instances where a trainer is unable to issue their command while doing something else so no command is 'issued' which would mean the pokemon does nothing.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)16:42 No.9879097
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    Yes. Fast pokemon can be moved to the back of the pokemon's turn queue and act later during the round, but not whenever they'd like. If you are the fastest and choose to not go first, you are moved to the end of the queue.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:43 No.9879114
    Man I need a group to test things out, no one in my area even likes pokemon and rpgs they either like one but not the other & vise versa.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:51 No.9879255
    A lot of pokemon have ridiculous pokedex fluff that doesn't even make sense in the context of the pokemon games, most likely the result of picking big sounding numbers without researching them (like magcargo being hotter than the surface of the sun). I think toning it down is fine.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:52 No.9879276
    ha, I was wondering who posted that, since it told me there was a duplicate file. I'm glad if it was going to happen it was Stark.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:53 No.9879296
    Figured it'd be something of the sort.

    Yeah. I've got a major hard-on for supersonic bird riding, s'all. Preferably sans incineration, of course.

    Also, more weird measurements. Materializer:
    "2.5 grams, or 5 pounds, of rock formed the Pokemon loses 2 HP. The Rock is formed adjacent to the Pokemon and a Pokemon can only add up to 25 grams, or 50 pounds, of rock over 1 round in place of a Move during their turn in an encounter."

    That's probably supposed to be KILOgrans, considering that 1kg~2lbs, wheras 1g~0.002lbs.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)16:57 No.9879360
    I had a question too, though I imagine it's covered in the pokedex (i'm not on my home computer, so I don't have access). Do pokemon that level up from happiness or trading still level up that way in tabletop? Happiness I can understand, but having a pokemon level up because you handed it to someone else in your party briefly seems like it wouldn't work.

    I only ask because two of my favorite mans are gengar and alakazam, and I'm planning on getting a geodude in my next game, all of which evolve from trading.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:04 No.9879430
    Any IRC games looking for another player?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)17:09 No.9879497
    Pokemon in P:TA evolve almost strictly through DM fiat. The only exceptions are pokemon that evolve with items such as the Eevee evolutions, which can happen through stones OR DM fiat.
    >> Dotdotdot! 05/17/10(Mon)17:27 No.9879775
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    Also, If the pokemon evolves by holding something while trading, then it works by holding something and leveling up while happy or when its AWESOME.

    Or just when its awesome. Evolution is really free form like that.

    First i've heard of this. GREAT SUCCESS.

    Now I'll have to look up pokemon signs. To Serebii!
    >> Dotdotdot! 05/17/10(Mon)17:54 No.9880156
    I'm back. Okay. I might have some ideas for feats to change, tweak, or replace.

    Also, wow, how did I get so far with the Acolyte class without people telling me that Tracks of Light already introduced Ranger helpers launching attacks rather than simply using assists, and that aligning yourself with legendaries (Through Pokemon signs) was a thing you could do? I feel a little psychic.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:02 No.9880267
    Right. Major nooblet question; How do you determine a trainer's starting stats? Can't seem to find that info anywhere.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:05 No.9880322
    If the .rar in the OP's post is what I think it is, download it and look under the "Pokemon GM ONLY" folder.

    It should be in the Excel spreadsheet called "Base Stats"
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:09 No.9880381
    Those are Pokémon stats. I'm talking about the Trainers and the STR, CON, WIS and whatnot.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:11 No.9880415
    Oh. nvm. You said TRAINER'S starting stats. I'm dum.

    All the games I'm in have been 64 point buy, minimum of 6 and I'm not sure what the max was because I never hit it.

    It hasn't said that anywhere in the .rar

    theoretically I suppose you could just roll out your stats if you really love randomness. It is a d20 system after all. I have no idea how that would work out though.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:13 No.9880441
    where the fuck is that sagefag who put >>>/v/ everywhere?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:15 No.9880467
    Busy being a faggot and targeting threads that aren't /tg/-related. This is a tabletop game.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)18:24 No.9880627

    Ah. Sounds about right. Since I'm already at it, I might as well ask another one:
    Do pokémon still only get four moves, or..?
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)18:25 No.9880654
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    12 point max per stat
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:03 No.9881307
    I'm assuming that means when initially stating trainers.
    >> Halfwing !!Slarp0p0hVx 05/17/10(Mon)19:04 No.9881319
    Heystark, I'm also working on my own cutom tabletop. Any advise? Other then the obvious "Keep at it and playtest it."
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:10 No.9881440
    Get at least 3 friends who are equally interested in its progress to help playtest and critique. Don't rush anything. Keep ALL files, obsolete, dropped or irrelevant, that were at any time part of the project. Start easy, add complications later. Stray from the source material, especially if it s a video game.

    Nothing else comes to mind at the moment.

    What is it that you are working on, If I may ask, Halfwing?
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)19:11 No.9881469
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    That was me.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:19 No.9881605
    You making something too Halfwing?
    >> Halfwing !!Slarp0p0hVx 05/17/10(Mon)19:22 No.9881664

    I may have been posting under the name Spartan recently.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:24 No.9881686
    What does that even mean?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:25 No.9881706
    Stark, I thought I read somewhere that you're working on another game. How are you gonna get Pokemon Tabletop done if you're working on something else?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)19:28 No.9881761

    >Halfwing always complaining about DSi
    >Spartan complains about DSi
    >Halfwing has taken an intrest in helping build homebrew settings
    >Spartan is building one

    How the fuck did I not notice this?
    >> Halfwing !!Slarp0p0hVx 05/17/10(Mon)19:33 No.9881843
    I'm the guy making the Halo tabletop.

    I'm really not surprised no one knows about it, there has only been 1 thread.

    Also Stark, did you ever find the page borders you were looking for? If not I could probably through one together in photoshop. Won't be OMFG AWESOME, but would be better then blank pages.
    >> Halfwing !!Slarp0p0hVx 05/17/10(Mon)19:35 No.9881898
    Dude... I only made 1 thread. I would be pretty fucking surprised if you did.

    I really didn't think it was important, so I decided not to mention it.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:31 No.9883030
    Halfwing, you're a samefag. All the fucking time.
    You bitch about not being a samefag and say that you have different poster IDs behind each post, but you have a DSi and a computer.
    What a fag.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:33 No.9883060
    >Christian cross
    >Creature that evolves

    No cognitive dissonance here? Really?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:36 No.9883124
    Maybe christianity has different rules in pokemon world?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:37 No.9883136
    PRO TIP: most Christians aren't science-denying creationist cockburgers.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:43 No.9883253
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:46 No.9883316
    How does capturing work?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:47 No.9883338
    But, as a Catholicfag, my other Christian bros tend to go apeshit when I tell them creationism is bullshit. They suggest something has a low probability of happening, therefore it doesn't happen. Anyone who has ever done statistics can tell you "as time approaches infinity, the probability of an event happening becomes 1."

    Bricks are shat, shit hits the fan, and some of the more science minded people are converted.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)20:48 No.9883346
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    I'm not working on it now. It's something I'm going to make after Beta is out until it's done, then I'll go back to updating Pokemon Tabletop Adventure's Beta. It's not a big thing. Just a fun sit down and play game.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:48 No.9883350
    Each pokemon has a capture rate.

    You roll a d100 and try to get under that number.

    Certain balls and abilitys alter the result.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:50 No.9883381
    Bullshit. Most Christians are Catholics. And the Pope has stated that Evolution is impossible, All signs of Jesus-like figures in myths predating Christianity were put there by the devil, and that the reason the dinosaurs went extinct was the great flood.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:51 No.9883404
    Modifiers for level of health as well as status correct?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:52 No.9883426
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:52 No.9883431
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:52 No.9883437
    I'm seem to recall that the last pope (John Paul, wasn't it? I'm too lazy to double check) basically say, in response to the whole creationism debate, that "you shouldn't take the bible quite that literally."
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:54 No.9883486
    >between creationism and evolution was an >“absurdity,” saying that evolution can coexist with >faith.

    >The pontiff, speaking as he was concluding his >holiday in northern Italy, also said that while there is >much scientific proof to support evolution, the theory >could not exclude a role by God.

    ..........boy, you sure trolled us.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)20:54 No.9883490
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    Each pokemon has a Capture Rate. It's a low number, usually.
    When you throw any poke ball, you roll 1d100. If you roll equal to or lower then the number the pokemon is captured.
    Poke balls might have way to raise the target's capture rate, and damaging/afflicting the target also raises its capture rate.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:56 No.9883531
    >and that the reason the dinosaurs went extinct was the great flood.
    That's not true. The official stance is that they've died out since then.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:58 No.9883560
    Oh god, that's even MORE ridiculous
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)20:59 No.9883605
    So, what is this project.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)21:01 No.9883646
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    Stop arguing about religion.
    Take it to another board.
    I'd like this thread to remain open for any questions anyone has about Pokemon: Tabletop Adventures.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)21:03 No.9883680
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    A surprise.
    I'll only repeat what I've said before:
    It'll make you dig out an old favorite from your closets and put together a game.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:05 No.9883727

    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:13 No.9883892
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    Has anyone actually played Pokemon Tabletop Adventures?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:21 No.9884036
    I'm going run it in a couple of minutes.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:23 No.9884083
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:25 No.9884120
    My first group meets tomorrow for the 5th? time.
    Their rival party meets on Thursday for the 1.5st time.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:26 No.9884140
    yeah, it's a bit wonky to find all the rules, but once down it works.

    Also to helpful /co/mrade if you're here, i'm sorry i haven't been showing up to our game, i get called into work.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:27 No.9884165
    you in happy's game?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:27 No.9884170
    I am Happy.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:29 No.9884196
    Stark, one question, how often do you hand out TMs and do you hand out multiples or just one and let the group argue over it?

    good deal
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:32 No.9884260
    Yeah, and we've been having a lot of fun.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)21:34 No.9884289
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    Sometimes, they find a TM case out in the woods. Gym Leaders award 2-4 TMs. They can also buy them - though the high prices, even after bartering, deter that method of acquiring TMs.
    >> Halfwing !!Slarp0p0hVx 05/17/10(Mon)21:35 No.9884313
    No, I'm waiting for beta before I test this with my group.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:36 No.9884328
    I don't know if anybody has sent you overviews of what has been going on in my game, but I'd love to hear what you think of it when you do.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:37 No.9884356
    ok cool, i've been having Gym leaders have have a line up and a victory condition. If you beat one, you get a badge and a TM, if you beat both you get the badge and two TMs.

    example would be the ground gym leader is all about being stable and not being moved by your opponent. if you manage to do that and win you would get the badge and both TMs, in this case dig and sandstorm.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:38 No.9884373
    Sure you aren't the fake?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:40 No.9884414
    Do you want me to name off the towns you've visited?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:44 No.9884482
    Stark, you said water is your favorite type IIRC, what is your favorite Pokemon?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:45 No.9884511
    Wailord, right?
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)21:45 No.9884514
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:46 No.9884535
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:46 No.9884536
    Wailord, as he has said multiple times.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:47 No.9884550
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:49 No.9884577
    >> Alpharius 05/17/10(Mon)21:51 No.9884603
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    I've always been a Ghost man myself, especially Froslass. There's just something about taming unearthly creatures that'll kill you as soon as you get boring for the lulz, if you pardon the expression. I appreciate that slight frisson of danger that comes with Ghosts, a twinge of fear that not even the Godmons can reproduce.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:53 No.9884640

    What about Gengar? Is he going to be able to hide in people's shadows, like in the manga and pokedex? Or is he gonna just be a tougher haunter like in the anime and actual gameplay?
    >> Dotdotdot!/KamenWriter 05/17/10(Mon)21:55 No.9884678
    Hi Happy. I'm looking forward to tomorrow.

    And if Stark is still in here, you should send me an E-mail if you haven't already. If we're going to talk about Acolyte we should go for it.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:56 No.9884683
    I believe the gengar line has the capability phase or the ability to pass through solid objects.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)21:58 No.9884731
    Cya, tomorrow. I'm going to head out and finish the planning for your group and rivals.
    >> Alpharius 05/17/10(Mon)21:58 No.9884733

    Who's the author of these doodles? I've seen you post a few of them before, and now I want a source.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)21:58 No.9884742
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    Sure, but when you return Rotom, your Pokedex would disappear with it. Still could be fun.
    >> Dotdotdot!/KamenWriter 05/17/10(Mon)21:58 No.9884743
    He has Invisibility and Phasing. You can essentially fluff it that he's hiding in people's shadows.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:03 No.9884836
    My question regarding LEGO still stands.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:06 No.9884891

    Also Stark, what is the acceptable line for pokemon that will be loyal?
    im thinking of making the champion (an empath) have a suicune as a Pokemon, would that work if or would it still likely rebel or be morally reprehensible as a trainer?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:07 No.9884919
    It's a surprise, he doesn't answer speculation.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:07 No.9884929
    Yeah, what about this? My level 2 trainer has a level 28 Primeape (don't ask, lol) that probably shouldn't obey him yet. At what level should it?
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)22:11 No.9884994
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    Generally, for the legendary pokemon I've made them allied with several important NPCs.
    They can be summoned to fight along side each other, but they aren't 'owned'. They are friends.
    For a champion, the pokemon league should make an exception if a wild is willing to listen to their commands in battle.

    As far as anyone's guesses as to what I'm putting together, I'll let you wait in your guessing games and neither confirm nor deny any guesses.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:16 No.9885107
    >Generally, for the legendary pokemon I've made them allied with several important NPCs.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)22:17 No.9885109
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    I think the circumstances of the capture are relevant. If it was a skillful capture the wild should be cautious, but obedient. If it was an abusive, cruel capture the wild would be hateful, but broken. If the capture was lucky, and the wild was cruelly attacked, (maybe even a friend or two of its was killed) it would be disobedient. Thinking back on all of the pokemon I've made disobedient, it has mostly stemmed from a lucky capture roll after my players were being jackasses about basically poaching the mons. They eventually gained control of the pokemon, though.
    >> Halo !!xMrH7aFFU7y 05/17/10(Mon)22:19 No.9885158
    So what is balance like?

    I'm thinking of running an Alpha game to help you out here D.M.S. but i'm worried that due to one or two of my friends knowing more about pokémon they will have the advantage.

    So my question is more of, if one player whats to starts off with a Swinub (which i'm lead to believe is a great pokémon) yet the other wants a Caterpie, won't one be greatly overpowering the other? The same question can be asked about generations.

    2nd Question. How are you ordering the bestiary? Straight alphabetical or generation then alphabetical (same as pokédex number i suppose)? Mainly asked as i will probably run Gen1/2 only.
    >> Dotdotdot!/KamenWriter 05/17/10(Mon)22:19 No.9885169
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    >For a champion, the pokemon league should make an exception if a wild is willing to listen to their commands in battle.

    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:26 No.9885300
    the swinub player has the advantage here, mostly you want to allow them several pokemon with the same or similar base stat totals. Typing and stats don't matter as much as a good brain in the tabletop game.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:27 No.9885311
    The major difference is that Caterpie evolves MUCH faster than Swinub. So he'll be a butterfree in no time and be way better early-game. Butterfree isn't really that bad, either.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:32 No.9885420
    Especially with 7 spots for moves.
    I get to keep all the effect moves and some attacks on my Butterfree.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:38 No.9885524
    Hey, I noticed that in the More Alpha Splatbooks folder, there's a doc called Breeding: Eggs Rule that I can't open in windows because of the colon, and I'm unable to rename it while it's in the compressed folder.

    Could someone on a Mac fix that?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:40 No.9885562
    Can't you just extract it?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:41 No.9885587
    yeah the many moveslots makes some things awesome, im testing it now, but it's looking like dragonite will be the god-tier pseudolegendary, with t-tar second.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:43 No.9885614

    Nope, Windows bitches at me for it.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:44 No.9885628
    We conceded to giving my friend a Larvitar as his starter. What can we do to balance him out?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:46 No.9885658
    restrict his TM allowance? More fighting types? also it'll take an ass-long time to actually get to lvl 55, you've got a while, let him have his poke by the time you get to 50s-60s, everyone should have a reasonable counter or alternative.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:49 No.9885714
    My favorite part is that a lot of shitty pokemon got elevated a bit by the addition of trainers having more to do with their upbringing. Even with Dark/Ghost being banned from Elemental Sync, you can still give Shedinja a fantastic boost to his typing.

    Now if only there was some way to get rid of that nasty weakness to Damage-over-time moves.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)22:49 No.9885720
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    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:49 No.9885723
    I was able to extract it with 7zip on Windows. Give that a try?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:50 No.9885741
    ...or we just wait for Stark to be awesome as usual.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:52 No.9885789

    Thank you very much!
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:53 No.9885808
    I'm trying to get me an Usraring, at level 40 you get your second ability correct? Quick feet and Guts?

    Rape-Bear, I choose you!
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:54 No.9885834
    This looks amazing. I came
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:57 No.9885887
    At what level does a trainer get an Advanced Class?
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)22:57 No.9885896
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    At 40, you may gain a second ability.
    Bestiary 2.0, which will include the 5th gen, will add new abilities and a third option for each existing pokemon.
    That's the plan anyway.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)22:59 No.9885925
    At what level does a trainer get an Advanced Class?
    Also, in a battle of, say, 3 vs. 3, is the experience for each Poke defeated divided by 3?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:00 No.9885940
    Sorry for the double-post.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:01 No.9885964
    I had just house ruled, that as an alternative you could pick the swarm/torrent/overgrow type boosting ability for one of your types. you may just want to do that...
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:01 No.9885977
    when he meets the requirements for it, then you take it instead of a feat for that level.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:02 No.9885989
    Yeah, seriously. I was fucking around with a Stat Ace build and tried out a Speed Ace using a Quick Feet/Guts Ursaring holding a Flame orb and with functionally unlimited speed and Attack stats.

    Was so rape I kinda felt bad.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)23:02 No.9885990
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    You gain an Advanced class when you meet the requirements for it and you would gain a feature.

    If a pokemon that is felled is worth 180 exp, I award it to each player's active pokemon.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:10 No.9886183
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    yeah im trying to test some of these potentially crazy pokes out, most are dependent on certain ability or moves making them somewhat restrainable.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:13 No.9886239
    Man, these P:TA threads are like yo-yos. They sit down there for a bit, suddenly come back up, then just as quickly sit down again.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:14 No.9886274
    Translation: Never aim stat effects at Stat Aces bearing Ursarings.

    And don't let them have Flame or Toxic orbs either.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:16 No.9886315
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    I think it's because people go off to do something, then come back.

    Also Ludicolo, is a rain Rape-monster, and sunflora goes from scoff-tier to powerhouse in sun.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:17 No.9886349
    Haven't tested it yet, but next up is to see if bronzong is unkillable, but the lack of a healing move should be interesting to see whether that's the case.
    >> Dotdotdot!/KamenWriter 05/17/10(Mon)23:21 No.9886430
    One more level and my Bronzong in Stark's campaign will be a perfect test subject for this. Ferdinand is level 39, and will be gaining his second Ability soon.

    Watch out, here comes Trollzong.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:25 No.9886502
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    tell me how this goes, i'm really interested to hear whether this is the case or not.

    Also how much do ethic come up in your games, In my test game, i've had trainers recall pokemon that were badly beat to concede defeat, do you think that trainers should regularly let their pokemon fight until feinting or not?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:26 No.9886532
    >Roll Breeder/Pusher
    >Teach Bronzong Rest
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/17/10(Mon)23:28 No.9886571
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    The Gym Leaders I run always return their pokemon if they don't stand a chance at still winning and their pokemon are hurt.
    >> Dotdotdot!/KamenWriter 05/17/10(Mon)23:37 No.9886739
    Ahh, Ethics and pokemon.
    I think we're operating under the assumption that pokemon want to get stronger, humans want to survive, humans can survive by utilizing pokemon, and Pokemon get their strength from being trained by humans. It's a mutually beneficial relationship (if, admittedly, a little skewed towards the humans.).

    As for the ethics of letting a mon faint, I don't know. The practicalities of the situation stand that since pokemon are able to die, you should take care of their well-being. It hasn't really come up though.

    What HAS come up is that when fighting against teams, I have a tendency to go straight for the trainer to cut off the effectiveness of his pokemon. In doing so, I've killed a couple trainers with rolls that were a little higher than I meant. Oops.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:38 No.9886754
    I'm thinking about having my players try to bust a "puppy mill" style IV breeding ring, think it'll go well?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:40 No.9886789
    Hopefully the Pokemon being bred there aren't being bred with some of the higher level techniques that PCs can potentially have.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:40 No.9886790
    But how is the Tanktrolleon coming?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:40 No.9886794
    Sounds like a solid quest. Breeders are great when they're all love and sunshine, but get even a little dark with it and they are easily the skeeziest of the classes.
    >> Dotdotdot!/KamenWriter 05/17/10(Mon)23:44 No.9886850
    It is coming well. It will still require a lot of teamwork with the other mons to work, but he can take care of himself pretty well.

    However,I just couldn't salvage Delibird. If someone else can that is great, but I decided to go with Spinda instead. Teeter dance is pretty good in this.
    >> Pvt. Igen !rplS8GxL2I 05/17/10(Mon)23:44 No.9886854
    So, what was the irc channel again? I can't remember. I was supposed to play, but hit a snag with finals.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:45 No.9886863
    tanktrolleon? is that an umbreon?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:47 No.9886897
    Awww but I love delibird. Understandable though. Teeter dance confuses all pokemon on the field?
    >> Dotdotdot!/KamenWriter 05/17/10(Mon)23:49 No.9886938
    No, its a potential build for Kecleon to take advantage of his Blender Capability (It makes all ranged attacks miss him when in Rough Terrain, and Melee attacks are at +2 to hit him) plus his relatively high DEF stat to create a workable tank/annoyer.

    I wanted to try building a team of six gimmick pokemon in PTA to see if it works. It does up to a point. Nothing spectacular but a little better than it does in the games, and pretty fun.
    >> Dotdotdot!/KamenWriter 05/17/10(Mon)23:51 No.9886972
    All pokemon within 7 spaces/meters.

    Essentially, yes, a large portion of the field is confused. And it can't miss. Not so good for free for alls where I'm likely to hit an ally, but if I'm surrounded by team rocket or something, it's pretty cool.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/10(Mon)23:56 No.9887065
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    awesome, indeed, i may have to steal that.
    >> Dotdotdot!/KamenWriter 05/18/10(Tue)00:01 No.9887140
    Speaking of the gimmick build, question for Stark if you're still here:

    For the Ace skill "Give it some push" I know you don't apply stats, but Do you apply STAB?
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/18/10(Tue)00:10 No.9887267
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    No. Sorry.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:15 No.9887341
    When is the game gonna be out?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:16 No.9887348

    Apparently July
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:21 No.9887428
    >Go to /v/ to discuss more pokemon.
    >They post scat pokemon pics and argue about nothing while getting spammed by spam bots targeting only their threads.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:24 No.9887464
    You're at /tg/.
    You don't even need those other boards.
    >> TheColonel 05/18/10(Tue)00:34 No.9887607
    Will there be a guide to help novice GM's onto their feet with PTA? I'm new to the whole thing really, and It might help those of us unfamiliar to GMing.

    Also, what is the ruling on how pokemon are used outside of combat? Just roleplaying? I say this in refrence to how a pokemon can only use the move CUT 30 times in battle, but in theory infinite times outside of battle.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:37 No.9887655
    Cut is At-Will, bro.
    You can use Cut whenever you want.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:39 No.9887678
    >> TheColonel 05/18/10(Tue)00:41 No.9887722

    Awesome. Same for stuff like Surf and strength, I'm presuming?

    Also thanks.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:43 No.9887742
    Some moves give your pokemon Capabilities. For example, Strength raises your Power capability, which allows your pokemon to lift and push more. Dig makes a pokemon able to burrow. Flash turns them into a flashlight, etc.

    Most of these capabilities can be used at-will unless otherwise noted. As for using pokemon moves outside of battle (I'm not sure if Cut actually gives you anything, after all) I'd say just go with what makes sense. If a pokemon knows Cut, he can cut down small trees or fences. If a pokemon has claws larger than his abdomen, he can do the same thing without having to waste a move slot. If a bird is big enough to ride and is strong enough to carry you, then you can ride him, but if he's still Pidgey sized you can forget it no matter how many times you teach it FLY.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:44 No.9887763
    Oh boy, someone should tell him.
    >If your pokemon can swim and support your weight, it can get you across water as a water mount- or you can just go swimming.
    >If it takes more then one pokemon to move a boulder in your way, or if you can just obliterate the boulder with attacks - do so.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:45 No.9887779
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    >> TheColonel 05/18/10(Tue)00:45 No.9887780

    Ah, kay.

    Also, not to be too much of a bother, but I have absolutely no idea how to get the Alpha Splatbook so I can read it. Are there PDF's or something similar to that of the stuff inside it, or no?

    If there are, could somebody post a link? Thanks in advance.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:46 No.9887792
    Stark's way ahead of you, bro.
    >> TheColonel 05/18/10(Tue)00:46 No.9887794

    Ohoho, I'm really behind on this, aren't I?

    I love that picture. Holy crap, that's my goal.
    >> TheColonel 05/18/10(Tue)00:47 No.9887806


    Thanks bro.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:47 No.9887809
    Stark... you still here? The thread is dying.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:47 No.9887810
    I want to get in on this D:

    Anyone looking for players?
    >> TheColonel 05/18/10(Tue)00:48 No.9887825

    Wait, in that case, how the hell do I extract files from a .zip? I think I already tried downloading it, and failed miserably.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:49 No.9887839
    More like its a whole bunch of players looking for a DM.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)00:50 No.9887855
    Winrar? You can pretty much get it for free... well... anywhere.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/18/10(Tue)00:50 No.9887860
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    I don't reply or contribute to discussion unless there is someone asks a question that isn't already answered in the thread or if there's nothing to say.
    I'm working on the Bestiary at this moment.
    I'm going to keep doing that unless there is meaningful discussion.
    >> TheColonel 05/18/10(Tue)00:54 No.9887913

    I am the epitome of failrar. I can't figure this out, it says some problem is keeping it from being encrypted. Oh well.

    I'll just wait till July to read it.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/18/10(Tue)00:55 No.9887940
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    Download this link.
    Try open that one.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:02 No.9888050
    >More food!
    I think I just found my long lost brother in a manga.
    >> TheColonel 05/18/10(Tue)01:03 No.9888064

    Tried it, same result as last one. I'm sending the link to a more competent friend of mine, but thank you very much.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:05 No.9888106
    The following image comes to mind:
    Man walks into a bar and approaches the most attractive woman. While opening the inside of his jacket and revealing over ten Gym Badges he says, "So, uh, ever seen a real man?" The woman swoons immediately and the fellow gets whatever he wants.

    Pokemon Trainers are the jocks.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:08 No.9888169
    Oh god. Why do I want this to be a plausible reality so badly?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:10 No.9888196
    You do realize that becoming a talented trainer would involve having an athletic body to travel everywhere and would actually be incredibly intelligent. fa/tg/uys would not be the jocks in this world.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:11 No.9888220

    Then why are there Pokenerds in the weirdest places?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:15 No.9888285
    This is the truth. Pokemon trainers should get pretty wiry and spry and have the stamina of gods. Not to mention they need to be able to take some hits themselves for those times when Charizard won't obey you and would rather use your head for a candle instead.

    Having an awesome pokemon would be like having an adorable, loyal dog, a porche, and a home gym that sees a lot of use all in one.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:23 No.9888417
    Every hobby has its neckbeards.

    Notice they're still universally thin and wiry. They've just never taken care of themselves beyond getting all that excercise.

    And considering the kinds of pokemon they generally use (Koffing, Muk, Magnemite family, Other "Cave" "Underground" or "Sewer" pokemon) they still don't seem to get out much for any reason other than to collect pokemon.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:31 No.9888541
    So, has anyone actually seriously used, or thought about using a Coordinator?

    Moneyfarm or no moneyfarm, it just doesn't seem that much fun to base your entire character build around contests as I understand them in this game.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:35 No.9888604
    I agree 100%, hardly anyone is going to use Coordinator.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:38 No.9888654
    I've run a few Pokemon games, and I've achieved the most success basing adventures AROUND going to find monsters.

    They gather information on where to find a certain one they want to capture in the gameworld, I tell them where it is based on how hard I want them to have to work for it, and they run into trouble and obstacles along the way.

    It's hard to find people nerdy enough to run Pokemon games, but even with loose rules they can be very fun. I feel like there are a lot of storytelling opportunities its copyright holders outright ignored/missed.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:43 No.9888767
    Yeah, but if it wasn't included there'd be that one dude who really really fucking wanted to play coordinator, and it'd just break his heart that it was ommitted. And we don't want that.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:46 No.9888810

    I was thinking of doing that- I enjoyed a lot of the non-combat oriented stuff about the Pokemon world.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)01:59 No.9889042
    Well, you could always have your player challenge Gym leaders to contests.
    "You think you're tough, Brock? LET'S SEE WHO'S THE TOUGH ONE!"

    ...Tough's a contest trait, yeah?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)02:06 No.9889183
    Yes, and that would be awesome.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/18/10(Tue)02:20 No.9889461
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    One of my playtesters is a Coordinator.
    He's a Coordinator/Ace Trainer and between Ribbons and Badges he levels up a lot. He's the highest level of the party. He enjoys it. The contests are much like Gym Battles where he needs to use strategy to win a Ribbon like he would a Badge.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)02:24 No.9889526

    That sounds pretty awesome. If I don't DM this for my group, I think I'll try Coordinator.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/18/10(Tue)02:36 No.9889749
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    Also, I should note:
    The GM keeps track of how much a pokemon likes you, naturally a pokemon is really psyched after defeating a Gym Leader's pokemon but most battles are so close, they are quickly returned in order to not collapse from exhaustion. Unless it was a one sided victory, in which case the winning pokemon will be able to soak up the spot light and make it super jazzed and happy.
    However, in Contests there is no way the pokemon will be unfit to soak in the spotlight once they win. Its a huge ego boost to pokemon who win Contests and I've had several pokemon evolve while on the pedestal.
    >> Dr. Mr. Stark !!d0diDeRpO0s 05/18/10(Tue)02:52 No.9890130
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    Goodnight, /tg/.
    Nice keeping company with you good folks all day long.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)02:56 No.9890205
    'night doctor.
    keep up the good work.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)02:59 No.9890286
    Night Stark.

    Good luck, and god speed.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)03:02 No.9890363
    Have my children.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)06:49 No.9893168
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)10:01 No.9895235
    rolled 16 = 16

    1. Use Mind Control on Arceus.
    2. Become Omniscient, granting infinite int, and int modifiers.
    3. Kill Arceus with a throwing star.
    4. ???
    5. PROFIT.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)10:08 No.9895318
    I'm more of a Steel, Ground, and Psychic guy.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)10:42 No.9895781
    I'm pretty sure one of the Mystic classes will allow you to essentially do that.

    Not sure about the infinite Int mods, though.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)10:56 No.9895982
    >1. Use Mind Control on Arceus.
    >2. Become Omniscient, granting infinite int, and int modifiers.
    >4. ???
    >5. PROFIT. (With a surplus in insanity and exploding heads)

    Fixed it for you.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)12:34 No.9897110
    >Implying you'll ever roll high enough to mind control Arceus.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)12:35 No.9897113
    w O W U G u Y s U r G O N n A g e T S o m a n y S P A m M e S s a g e S f O r S t E A l I N g A T s d o M a i N L u L l L l l l L L Z h t t P : / / W W w . A N o N t a l k . S E /
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)13:55 No.9898178
    No. Seriously. Why the fuck is this shit still going on?
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)13:57 No.9898207
    Because Swedish autist pedophiles.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/10(Tue)14:29 No.9898704

    Mind Control: Influential Feature
    Prerequisites: Influential, 28 INT, Level 18
    At-Will – Drains 15 HP every 15 seconds.
    Target: Pokemon or Trainers.
    Effect: You have control of the target entirely. You know what they know and can have them do anything they are capable of doing. Using this on a target leaves discoverable psychic residue.

    Bro, there IS no roll. It's basically just * INSERT PSYCHIC ONOMATOPOEIA* "You're now under my control".
    >> Beergut 05/18/10(Tue)14:55 No.9899101

    That's the image that I will never forget. Look at those tiny pokeballs, know what diameter they are? Approximately 12 gauge, do you have any idea how many ideas that concept spawned for me and my friends?

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