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    394 KB Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)09:28 No.13492769  
    Sup /tg/.

    I'm playing the bad guy in an upcoming Space Opera campaign, and I need advice on being a BBEG. I'm not very good at it, so I'm asking for your help in plotting evil deeds.

    So I'm a brain with implants in a robot body. I have enough resources to start with maybe three planets under my control. The campaign universe is thirteen galaxies orbiting around one central galaxy. Each one has ~15,000,000 planets with life. There is psychic powers, which I have.

    There are fifteen other players, none of which are aware of my existence. Four of them picture themselves would-be BBEGs, two of which are mary sues. One Mary Sue controls the two none-Mary Sue wannabe BBEGs.

    The remaining eleven players are pretty varied. Three are Mary Sues. Two none-Mary Sues are killer robots. Three none-Mary Sues have psychic powers.

    The tech level is basically Star Wars, maybe Old Republic time period. No Death Stars, yet. Also people use swords a lot, and there's some retarded Bushido shit.

    Psychic powers function like the Force, but there's no energy field around the galaxy, the psychic powers are powered by your brain.
    >> sage sage 01/12/11(Wed)09:30 No.13492783
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    gb2gaiaonline faggot
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)09:30 No.13492784
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)09:31 No.13492789
    Posting an image bumps the thread dumbass.
    >> sage sage 01/12/11(Wed)09:33 No.13492802
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    Not if you sage it doesn't, newfag. Lurkmoar.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)09:37 No.13492825
    Nuclear weapons are still widely used, and robots are uncommon. Railguns are rare, very hard to make, and overpowered. Lasers and blasters are the norm. Personal shields are restricted to 'nobles'.

    They're a lot of feudalism and monarchy stuff. Democracy is uncommon. There's also some communist stuff. Capitalism is the normal economy, however. Resources are generally mined on planets. Very few asteroids are mined.

    FTL works for short range jumps between individual star systems, mostly. Larger jumps require more energy, or conversely less mass. The largest jump a ship can make under it's own power is maybe 1000 Light Years.

    There is also a network of permanent Wormholes across the galaxy. These are expensive to make, but allow jumps across entire galaxies with ease.

    Jumps between galaxies can only be made at certain points. Most of the known ones are controlled by monarchic or feudal societies.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)09:38 No.13492832
    The fuck is gaia online?
    >> -|- Reichsguard -|- !!Q3opPDaKzPo 01/12/11(Wed)09:39 No.13492845
    Can you steal others psychic power? IT would be nice if you could harvest billions upon billions of lives to power up yourself and become a god.

    Maybe you realize your galaxy will sooner or later run out of power, or you did lot's of stuff that leaved your galaxy almost dry on energy. But let's say you have a more or less an idea for inexausthible energy source, but you need a gigantic amount of energy to start the experiment. Amount of energy your galaxy alone can't provide. Therefore you need to steal stars form other galaxies or draw power from, let's say, breaking up the very powers governing the laws of psychics. A galaxy wide entrophy of the very laws of nature.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)09:41 No.13492861
    As in Star Wars, do gravity wells still fuck with FTL, and if so, is there equipment capable of generating artificial gravity wells, like the Interdictor starship?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)09:41 No.13492863
    >Mary Sue

    you keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)09:53 No.13492951
    No, it does. They have the 'Lol I'm so spechul and awesome and am princess of the planet and can read minds and everyone thinks I'm pretty and blah blah blah."

    Yes, I can. Good idea. I could use that against the other Psychics.

    Not sure about the galaxy running out of power, but harvesting suns could be cool.
    Yes they do, they pull them out of FTL. It really depends on how powerful the engine is, or how little mass the FTL object has.

    The less mass or more powerful engine, the harder it is to pull out of FTL.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)10:15 No.13493118
    Now, more on the Mary Sue's, since they're the biggest threat.

    'Evil' Mary Sues:

    Evil Furfag Mary Sue: The unfortunate leader of two other evil PCs. Tries to force his furfaggotry on everyone else. Is in charge of a fleet of other furfag aliens. Constantly tries to have sex with all of them. Sells weapons and does mercenary stuff all across the campaign universe. Killed the other Evil Mary Sue's species. Acts like everyone should be happy he's even in the game OOC.

    Evil Angsty Mary Sue: Supposed IQ over 200, acts all angsty all the time. Tried to kill Evil Furfag Mary Sue three times. Her eye got cut out and she replaced it with 'lol super ninja weeaboo naruto eye'. Has 'hot' IC whore as her girlfriend, follows her everywhere. Bitchy about everything, tried to take over multiple different nations with lolmindcontrolangst.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)10:29 No.13493243
    Good Mary Sues:

    Good Furfag Mary Sue: Just as much of a furfag as EFMS. Also tries to... yiff. In game. Has quote "Vast Psionic Powers, allowing her to dominate or kill anyone who angers her". Has the stupid 'fursecution' thing going. Is girlfriend of one of the other Good Mary Sues.

    Good Ninja Vampire Princess Mary Sue: Yeah. I'm not even going to talk about this one. It's just... really bad.

    Good Noble Mary Sue: This is the guy who's girlfriend is the GFMS. Rules a ton of planets, or something. Is the son of some ancient emperor psychic guy. Acts like a total dick to everyone, then claims that 'tales are told of his kindness and generosity'. Thinks he's a samurai, talks about katanas all the time.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)10:31 No.13493260
    Now, /tg/. What should I do to fuck these guys up. Preferably making them Mary Sue Rage first.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)10:35 No.13493313
    Why in the world would you even play with those faggots?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)10:40 No.13493364
    >15,000,000 inhabitable planets

    >Star Wars lvl tech

    You have your foundries and uncountable numbers of uninhabitable planets, droids.


    Hurrah for mind powers failing on droids.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)10:45 No.13493413
    Why would you even bother playing with these people?
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)10:47 No.13493436
    I know the GM. He's a pretty cool guy, just horrible at GMing. So he asked me to play against the PCs, so he doesn't have to.

    The players complained about some shit, so now I'm limited by the rules, and to one character.

    I still have to be the BBEG though. That's why I need ideas.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)10:50 No.13493456
    Start hurling starts into each other at near lightspeed.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)10:53 No.13493485

    You mean stars?

    I don't think I have the stuff to do that. But I could maybe launch thousands of deep space probes at light speed at inhabited planets. That should fuck up some shit.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)10:58 No.13493526
    Start randomly closing wormholes. Or, if possible, redirect one end into the event horizon of a black hole somewhere.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:01 No.13493560
    Set up a spy network, and wait until one of the PCs is set to go through a wormhole, then do this.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:04 No.13493579
    If you want to be the bad guy, go with robots and clones. There are more planets than there are people on your three, start colonising the fuck out of the uninhabitable ones with cloneships intent on making droid armies led by clones, who have orders to spread to other uninhabited sectors to generate stuff.

    Drones keep the crews of 5 or so in cryo while they land their colony ship on the barren planet, then start transforming the land into a von neumann facility using solar power and building habitats. A lot of them will fail, but you'll succeed with enough that those ships can send out MORE ships to uninhabited worlds.

    Pretty soon you'll have a few billion armies.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:04 No.13493585
    1. Create copies of the PCs
    2. Make them more powerful than the PCs
    3. Fight!
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:07 No.13493606
    >There are fifteen other players

    Sounds like a clusterfuck.

    >Railguns are rare, very hard to make, and overpowered. Lasers and blasters are the norm.

    This may be a space opera campaign, and, consequentially, low in terms of sci-fi hardness, but still... a railgun would be easier to make than a weaponized laser. Especially, if said laser gun is supposed to be pistol/rifle size.

    But, whatever. To go with the initial BBEG help request, I'd recommend checking out the link posted >>13492784 . Not a definitive guide, but should help you avoid some of the common failures associated with being the BBEG.

    As for what to do with your robot brain thing, I'd suggest going the five jew banker route. Be a supplier for the other PCs; provide them with money and materials in exchange for services or repayment with interest. Do this to gain everyone's trust as a "neutral" party. Meanwhile, you're expanding your economic might across the galaxy, gathering more resources and recruiting allies. Once you're powerful and trusted, you can start pitting the players against each other. Give the angsty bitch a mercenary outfit to tackle the furfag who blew up her species, then turn around and sell him some "state of the art ships" in exchange for his preexisting ships. Of course, the "state of the art ships" will be faulty pieces of shit little better than nicely ornamented tin cans.

    I suggest taking the jew route because, as you seem to be at something of a power disadvantage, you're going to want to avoid direct confrontation with the other players (at least to begin with). It provides a way of accumulating power without ruffling too many feathers, and it gives everyone else something of a false sense of security regarding you. "Sure, he might be a greedy self-interested bastard, but I can trust him because, so long as I buy his shit, he's making money."
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:09 No.13493619
    >The campaign universe is thirteen galaxies
    You have no sense of scale and no idea what you're doing.

    >Also people use swords a lot
    do they use hand crank Archimedes screws for pumping water and zeppelins as well?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:14 No.13493654

    To be entirely fair, there could be a use for swords aboard ships / space stations where firearms might fuck things up if they hit the wrong thing.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:16 No.13493672
    Dune style shields

    slow things get through, fast things do not

    either makes laser fire ineffective or like in the Duneverse make it detonate
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:17 No.13493684
    LOGH had a really nice justification for why melee combat saw wide use despite the presence of awesome laser guns. It involved a gas that would explode if shot with a laser. Flooding hallways with it in the event of boarding action was standard practice.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:19 No.13493695
    Fuck no. You have weaponized lasers? Tone them down. Ionize the air, sent a strong current through it. Use a normal gun with fletchettes so they won't overpenetrate and/or do any great harm and cover them with cytotoxins.

    There are tons of options, all of them better than a sharpened bit of metal.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:20 No.13493705
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    I'd say that the big thing with LoGH is that the sci-fi softness is more easily overlooked because of how well the story is done.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:23 No.13493727
    Pretty much. It's about the characters, not the technology. It doesn't waste all its time telling you how everything works, it just uses that stuff as a backdrop. Unlike, say, Star Trek.

    We need more like this.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)11:23 No.13493731
    That's a really interesting plot. Especially since the PCs don't know my true identity. Maybe I could start a fake war somewhere else, make the PCs think I'm the one pulling the strings a galaxy away.

    Actually, it's supposed to be retard-level huge. Most civilization is only in four galaxies, and even then most of those are low-tech.

    I do agree there's not a good sense of scale, but I'm not the GM.

    They used swords in star wars. Haven't you played Kotor?

    Or I could use them to ruin the PC's reputation. Nice!
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:23 No.13493733
    that's a brilliant bit of tech. Now get compressed air rifles with it, and skullfuck the opposition with tungstem penetrators while they can't effectively defend themselves.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:27 No.13493775
    Sounds more like a code of honour thing.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:29 No.13493793
    Also, inevitably you are going to build a superweapon. Like, this is just a thing. Hell, even if you just want to provide an obvious point for your adversaries to strike at you so you can trap them.

    And if you do, I suggest you go the Star Forge route rather than any kind of Death Star shenanigans. A station which basically hoovers up the matter of a star and weaves it into mass produced fleets of large AI controlled starships, catalysed by the consumption of a few powerful psychics once in a while (Also meshes with the whole psychic vampire thing, giving added believability that this is your main plan, regardless of whether it is)
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:31 No.13493822

    Twist on the superweapon thing

    Go ahead and make it a giant ass forge thing. That will give the other players incentive to try and capture it. However, when they move to do so, blow it up. Blow it up as big and evily as possible. Supernova style big. Sure, you lose the superweapon, but it will technically have completed it's purpose of disposing of the other players.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:32 No.13493830
    thinking about superweapons

    why don't empires with access to antigravity technology ever think about using it, even for a split second, on a sun to make it explode from gas pressure
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)11:34 No.13493845
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    What if Star Forge made Death Stars?

    I could make a bare-bones one, hollow on the inside, with some effects so they think it's the real thing.

    Then when they get close, it self-destructs, taking their whole assault fleet with it.

    Then I make my real one. The next time the PCs see it, they might pause long enough for me to take them out. Assuming they're still alive.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:35 No.13493852

    Probably because stars, especially ones with habitable planets, are kinda important.

    Though, it would work very nicely if you lure the enemy into a star system with few important orbiting bodies.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)11:35 No.13493855
    That's good too.
    That's even better. Supernova weapons fuck yeah.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:36 No.13493863
    Think bigger. He said most of the civilizations in the setting are present in four galaxies, and even then most of them are low-tech. That leaves at least nine galaxies that could offer only minimal resistance. Imagine the future.

    Nine whole galaxies, with Forges around every star. Assuming an average star count of 500 billion, that's 4.5 trillion stars.

    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:36 No.13493864
    or if the enemy boasts about an IMPENETRABLE SHIELD

    woops your sun is gone
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:37 No.13493872
    We are all Shofixti now.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:38 No.13493875

    Here's the thing: if it's a real superweapon, they have to move in in order to deal with it eventually. By setting up each superweapon to violently kamikaze, you create a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:39 No.13493890
    Oh, wait, hang on. 13 galaxies orbiting a central galaxies. So that's 14 in total. 10 for takeover. Making it a whopping 5 trillion stars.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:39 No.13493892
    and then the PC's send one of them as a huge missile straight into the BBEG's lair

    you know they'll try
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)11:40 No.13493897


    I'll start with one, and then the first Star Forge will make another, and then they'll make another.

    All with me as the undisputed ruler of it all.



    Fuck yeah.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:43 No.13493930

    Complication: The BBEG will see the missile coming, and be able to shoot it down.

    It'd only be useful if it were a R-bomb, which... I kinda doubt they would think of, based on the OP's description of them.

    Though, speaking of R-bombs, the OP could utilize them for incredibly destructive purposes. Use FTL to get within a few lightdays/weeks of the target, then fire the R-bomb at the target.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:44 No.13493945
    whats R bombs?
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)11:46 No.13493956
    Relativistic weapon.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:48 No.13493973
    Remote mines.

    Personally, I was for weaponising the planets around the suns, but weaponising the suns also work for star forge type stuff.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:49 No.13493986

    A shell fired at relativistic speeds.

    Because it's traveling at a significant percent of c, it's effectively undetectable until it's too late. Additionally, because of how fast it is going, even if you do detect it, any countermeasures would be futile.

    When it hits a planet, or space station, or anything, it hits with a tremendous amount of force. A R-bomb hitting a planet is an extinction event of "oh god, the ocean is boiling" proportions.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:50 No.13493990
    I just thought of something

    regular explosives usually don't work at relativistic speeds due to requiring extreme computing accuracy for the detonation

    However if you use a missile thats a magnetic container filled with anti-matter shouldn't it annihilate upon the destructive impact of a relativistic weapon and cause an explosion of insane proportions?

    that would imho make for a fitting superweapon
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:53 No.13494015
    Do both. Start out slow, play the banker in the populated galaxies, creeping star forges in the others. Except when you place the star forges, strap engines and FTL to the planets in the star system, and point them at someone elses homeworld. Keep doing this, and do it for every single planet and system. The star gets used for resources, the planets get used as Relativistic Kill Vehicles.

    Sure, they'll take ages to get there, but they're fire-and-forget weapons. Get busy with your other schemes, and even if they manage to defeat you, a few centuries later, BAMPF, a planetary body at .9c smacks into their system and annihilates them all.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)11:54 No.13494025
    All this superweapon stuff is great and all, but I need a starting off point.
    This is a good idea. I might use this

    But in between this and Star Forge, there's a lot of space.

    Anything else I can use to get enough resources to start making superweapons?

    Maybe I start a war between two powers, and sell weapons to both sides. Using my influence, I could extend the war for so long that both sides go bankrupt, and have to sell much of their territory to me to keep buying weapons.

    Eventually I own enough of each side I'm a superpower in my own right. Then I convince some other power, one that has influence over the PCs, to come in and conquer the now weakened nations, asking for a title or rank, depending on their government, for assisting them. Then I can force the PCs into working for me using my power in THEIR government. And send them on suicide missions, which if successful will give me even more power.

    Anyone think that might work? Or am I not thinking about this right?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:54 No.13494030

    There's no point.

    The fact that it's moving at relativistic speeds alone is enough to make the collision more than deadly enough.

    For reference, look at the boom table on http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/spacegunconvent.php

    1 kilogram at 99.99% c will result in a 1.5 gigaton blast.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:57 No.13494047

    Now you're thinking like a proper jew.

    Use the greed and hubris of the dirty goyim players to your advantage.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)11:59 No.13494062
    planetary shields

    if you can accelerate something to relativistic speeds it would not be to far fetched to create something capable of withstanding or diminishing the blast

    and it would also significantly lower the weight of the shell and thus the required energy.

    Or turn a fuck the planet weapon into a fuck the sun and anything within a light year
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:04 No.13494102
    >if you can accelerate something to relativistic speeds it would not be to far fetched to create something capable of withstanding or diminishing the blast
    Incorrect. If you accelerate a tank up to 100 miles per hour over a 10 minute drive using a diesel engine, do you think you can shield a building using the same diesel engine from the impact that happens within less than 2 seconds?

    You can't output the same amount of energy from any power source in a massively faster timeframe.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)12:06 No.13494122
    So a half-ton 99.99 c space probe will have an energy of about 681 gigatons?


    If I fire 10 of those it could really do some damage.
    They won't stand a chance.

    Anyone have any other clever ideas? This stuff is really helping me plot.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:08 No.13494149
    1.) create a stable strangelet (use psychics if you have to)
    2.) throw it into a neutron star
    3.) obtain quark star
    4.) harvest stable strangelets from the quark star
    5.) send stable, high velocity strange matter particles at every star and planet you don't want, ice-nine their asses into nothingness.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:09 No.13494153

    Even if you assume a planetary shield of some sort, 1.5 kilograms of antimatter will only yield a 64.3 Mt blast.

    Whereas 1 kilogram of anything traveling at 99% c will have a yield of 132 Mt. Less mass, and over twice the amount of bang. The same 1 kilo at 99.9% c becomes 454 Mt, and at 99.99% c becomes 1.5 Gt.

    Instead of going through the trouble to make antimatter, you'd be better off just making the mass of the R-bomb larger.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:10 No.13494160

    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:11 No.13494166
    Build a giant artifical brain and hook yourself up to it.

    Since psychic powers work from your brain, if you made a dyson sphere, you could become a physical god.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:11 No.13494170
    no but we can make buildings that can withstand a tank running into it at that speed

    different technologies but its not unlikely to think they got some kind of shielding that acts as an impact substitute in a place where the shockwave is almost nonexistant and there's almost no heat conversion
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:13 No.13494182

    You're a giant robotic brain. People know that those are always badguys. You need a face. Preferably 20 or more.

    Play it like a Scooby Doo villain. Plan it so that once the mask comes off, they find a new mask.

    Proxies are your friend, and the development of powerful proxies will be your middle-stage.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:14 No.13494196
    if they have relativistic transport then they'd need to have some kind of inertial dampener if they wanted to use it for travel.

    Out of curiosity though, is there any reason to think they can accelerate objects to relativistic speeds in any kind of reasonable time frame? I don't recall them ever being able to do that in star wars, they relied on hyperspace travel for transport didn't they?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:14 No.13494197
    I thought it was 1.5 gram that made such a bang, not KG
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)12:18 No.13494228
    Perhaps I could use my psychic powers to control the brain of a clone. Or, if doing so is too risky do to other psychics, I could use some kind of brain implant that let's me remotely control it via quantum entanglement or something similar.

    Actually, what else can I do with psychic powers? I can read and control extremely large numbers of non-psychic minds at once, read or control a few psychic minds, absorb the psychic powers of others, heat and cool things, teleport up to three miles, and use telekinetic powers.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:19 No.13494230
    >planetary shields
    RKV impacts the shield.

    We have three basic options:
    1. It passes through, as it's stronger than the shield.
    2. The shield holds, the shield generator is propelled through the planet at near-c
    3. The shield holds, the planet is hit at an angle and now it is spinning a couple times faster than it was before.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:19 No.13494232

    Using the boom table linked to >>13494030 , it's kg.

    Also on http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/spacegunexotic.php the same website gives the formulae for antimatter and R-bomb yields.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:20 No.13494242

    That's not a very good shield.

    All of those options are bad!
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)12:22 No.13494266

    Don't we have magnetic body armor that dampens the inertia of bullets? Noted that would be extremely difficult with the current understanding of science, however we're talking about a space opera.

    Dampen the inertia by fucking mind powers, if you have to.

    >captcha sir Hakesto
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:24 No.13494278
    On the other hand, it takes 128 Mt to make 1 KG of antimatter (assuming you have 50% efficiency).

    It takes a minimum of 132Mt to accelerate that mass to 99%C, and the same 1 kilo at 99.9% c becomes 454 Mt, and at 99.99% c becomes 1.5 Gt.

    NOT to mention the amount of boost equipment you need to have accelerating alongside the 1 kilo weight you're launching.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:25 No.13494289

    Sure, this is a Space Opera, and, consequentially, should not be taken as hard scifi.

    However, we're trying to help the OP blow shit up. So, taking a schizophrenic view of scifi hardness on the topic of R-bombs compared to those stupid ass laser pistols would be best.
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    This is all awesome so far. Here's some other, more minor ways to be an awesome BBEG:

    Every time you meet with someone, do by sending some sort of fancy robot body. Make it different every time. Of course your brain is actually light-years away, and the body is equipped with high explosives, (or chambers filled with potent neurotoxin, or a designer plague, or possibly all of the above) just in case anyone feels like "tampering" with it. If there's FTL communication in this setting, you can "drive" it directly; otherwise, just say you upload a copy of your cortical stack to each diplomat droid so it behaves exactly like you, then re-sync with it whenever it returns (and if it doesn't, you can be content that who ever stopped its return is dying in horrible, horrible agony.)

    Going off that, don't be LOL EVIL EMPEROR I WILL CONTROL THE GALAXY. What's your motivation? Given what you've said, a good motivation would be the classic Lawful Evil: "Look at the galaxies," you say. "Look at all these people (and I use the term lightly) that are in control. Are they really the sort of rulers that the galaxies need in order to prosper? Of course they aren't. So I'm going to unite them all, for their own good." Possibly include some far-future prediction involving the death of the universe that only your massive intelligence and the united effort of every galaxy can save us from.

    Be fair, but cruel. Don't just kill for fun, or even to "set an example." Reward competence and obedience justly, be merciful to those whose failures are minor, but ruthlessly and utterly destroy anyone who defies you without a shred of mercy.

    THIS is the sort of BBEG people remember. Pic kind of related.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:27 No.13494299
    I stand corrected

    However I could see anti matter rounds being useful in situations where the usage of relativistic rounds is difficult if not impossible. Its likely a space ship will not be able to accelerate its projectiles to substantial fractions of c and if it did they would simply pierce the ship instead of inflicting serious damage whereas an anti matter round partially penetrating an opposing ship would deal a fuckload of damage
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)12:28 No.13494308
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    Sorry about the double-post, but the shield generator could be designed with #2 in mind. Have an off-planet generator that takes the hit, but the impact shocks the system and causes it to immediately switch off and fly into space. Let someone else deal with the near-relativistic speeds of that thing.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:29 No.13494314

    >simply pierce the ship instead of inflicting serious damage

    I dunno, I'd say that a hole straight through a ship that causes immense heat and sucks out the air is pretty damn serious.

    Arguably, the best kind of serious as it disables the vessel while making it relatively easy to salvage and repair.
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)12:31 No.13494335

    Noted, and sorry if I don't quite understand. I'm just trying to figure out ways to keep our dearest BBEG from having the same thing happen to him.

    Magnificent bastards have to have castles, even if their castles are actually planets.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:32 No.13494345
    if it goes so fast it only creates a hole roughly the diameter of the projectile it could only create a hole a few centimeters wide which would be relatively harmless on a ship spanning kilometers and easy to fix
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)12:34 No.13494361
    I just got an idea.

    My Mind Control and Mind Reading don't have a maximum range, I just have to know where they are relative to me, within about a foot.

    So if I put a tracking beacon secretly in a PC, and use a Galactic Positioning System to track him everywhere, once he meets up with another PC I AM ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:35 No.13494376
    or maybe a shield that slows objects passing through it and not actually being a standard thin shield but more an area several hundreds of kilometers wide around the planet

    if you make a way for it to utilize friction creates this way as energy so it locally increases exponentionally you could have a static shield that decreases the speed of relativistic missiles to the point they can be shot down by laser based weaponry
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)12:36 No.13494377

    Note: Space Opera. Get things going too fast and the shock wave will tear a much bigger hole in the ship. And it will look absolutely bad ass. We'll need to find the right speed to make it work. Experimentation? Yes sir. Give it to a few pirates, let them blow up a few civilian ships, make adjustments, kill the pirates, become a hero, run for govener, etc. and so on till dictatorship.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:37 No.13494391
    (I realize this would require a substantial amount of handwavium but its space opera you can use some of it)
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)12:38 No.13494407

    A very good plan. Depending on the tact OP wants to take, the thing could be intensified to the point where any significantly fast object encounters so much friction it vaporizes. I'm not sure how well it'll work though. Yours sounds more plausible.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:38 No.13494411
    well a missile that makes a ship explode in a glorious flash from the inside is pretty space opera to

    maybe different uses like one is easier to utilize but destroys a ship completely while the other is harder but can make the ship usable by the winning side
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:41 No.13494429
    It doesn't just create a hole. Oh my god, a one inche piece of rock, moving at .99%c would bloody annihalate most space craft.

    It's like that effect that I forget the name of, when you're shot with a gun. Sure, the hole leaves damage. But so does the millions of burst cell walls from the shock wave...
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:41 No.13494435
    4: The shield holds, the effects of the 1.5 gigaton blast is distributed over a continent, which probably dents the entire continent but does no serious damage to the people on top of it. Probably a few million killed.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:43 No.13494455
    yes but going at that speed it would retain 99% of its energy and only convey a small part of it at which point anti matter rounds would become once again more destructive

    and there's the matter of having a space ship capable of accelerating an object to relativistic speeds (not certain if they use hyperspace or wormholes as means of travel)
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:44 No.13494466
    >dents the entire continent
    >no serious damage to the people on top of it.

    ... something about that doesn't seem right.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:45 No.13494477

    Also, set up a network of agents (really just ordinary people with tracking beacons implanted secretly) all around every major planet.

    Need to get something done on Omnicron-12? Just fire up the beacon and hop into that guys head. No-one will be able to get rid of ALL of your "sleepers."
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:48 No.13494506

    Putting a R-weapon on a spaceship is probably a no go because of energy requirements. It might be doable on larger capital ships, but, in that case, you wouldn't be using standard R-bombs. It'd be better to essentially make a R-shotgun that fires sand. Instead of one hole in the enemy ship, you now have a shit ton of holes. Each one of those holes is now leaking air, and, potentially, damages important pieces of equipment / people.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)12:51 No.13494535
    For some reason I thought of Morrowind as soon as you said 'Sleepers'.

    Dammit. I'm Dagoth Ur.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:53 No.13494544
    No-one cares what happens to a load of magma under the crust, and if you shove shields both on top of your planet and underneath it, all that energy gets shoved into the core liquid, where it acts as a massive shock dampener.


    Your shield generators might get wrecked a bit though.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:54 No.13494551
    Nothing doing, OP. Mary Sues are harder to kill than Wolverine and Lobo put together. Blow up a star on them? "I live, but just barely on the brink of life..." and if the GM tells them they aren't they will throw a huge hissyfit until they get their way.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:55 No.13494561
    >"I live, but just barely on the brink of life..."
    That's when your second, larger fleet shows up.
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    >Blow up a star on them? "I live, but just barely on the brink of life..."
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:58 No.13494588
    Its at this point I reveal my true inspiration: The Culture.
    "Oh, one supernova wasn't enough? Well, fuck your shit, here's another one. Arsehole"
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)12:58 No.13494589

    They will literally swim through space, my man. You don't know how Mary Sues think. Mary Sue PCs literally believe that the rest of the game are NPCs and that the story revolves around them, therefore they cannot die because the story has not been finished.


    Rules be damned.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:00 No.13494602
    there's also the shockwave, and it'd create tsunamis that are bigger than anything ever.

    I like this. It's over the top, kinda retarded, but it could work. And yes, you should align the shield satellites/planetoids/moons/planets so that they bounce from one to another.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:02 No.13494616
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    Turn stars into R-bombs.

    Turn the universe into a fiery, death filled game of pong!
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:02 No.13494620
    If I might. Op, here's the thing.

    You're dealing with faggots.

    The thing you want to avoid, MOST OF ALL, is any impression that you might be out to harsh their mary sue buzz. Don't talk weapons unless THEY start pulling shit first, or you might start to look like a bad guy. In their beady little mary sue eyes, you're conspicuously NOT a mary sue, and are therefore automatically suspect.

    Instead, here's what you do. You position yourself as a geek with a hardon for space colonization. The kind of fag who tears up at rocket launches. It helps if you are that kind of fag (as I am), but even if not, it's a believable OOC cover story.

    Ask your dm, when you send a colony ship to an uninhabited planet, how long before that planet can send colony ships of its own. If the DM wants to handle colonization, it'll be a sizable time period, but not a crazy one. You're a robot, you don't need to worry about people growing up. Your production is your production.

    Then, start pumping out colony ships as fast as you can. Three planets, three new planets per turn. Eventually, your new planets per turn will itself start growing by three per turn. Then you've won.

    All the while, put a god damn smile on your face and never take it off. Be friendly, and engaging. Humor their furfaggotry shit. If at least one of your colonies is up and running and the mary sue wants to blow up your home planet, probably as some kind of ego trip, smile sadly and let them. But mark that player.

    He will be the first to die.

    It really doesn't matter what tech you use. With a 5 trillion world playing field, if you colonize faster and farther than they can, you can use fucking blowguns and rose petals and still overwhelm their armies. It's a good thing they're all mary sues, because they're going to need all the bullshit "my psychic powers BLOW UP half your battleships!" cards they can find.

    And the best thing? It will have been a fair fight.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:03 No.13494629
    I have to admit, it is much more elegant than my idea, but it sucks if your shield on your satellite planetoid is struck in such a way that your relatavistic shield and planetoid is now heading towards your planet.

    Still, the shockwaves spread out over the entire planet's molten core will bring down the shockwave level immensely. Those things take a lot of energy to go splosh.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:06 No.13494652
    >If at least one of your colonies is up and running and the mary sue wants to blow up your home planet, probably as some kind of ego trip, smile sadly and let them. But mark that player.

    He will be the first to die.
    Ensure you are not on the home planet at the time.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:08 No.13494661
    >blowguns and rose petals

    .... The R-bombs, if the OP chooses to utilize them, should fire rose petals.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:10 No.13494677
    Of course, I shall send you flowers as a message of peace and co-operation.
    I never said how fast I'd send them
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)13:13 No.13494699
    Or they could fire beer. If I find any dorfs that might make them mad though.

    I doubt I will.
    Good idea. I'll combine this with the others, somehow.

    The other ten players are actually ok, though. Not great, but good. Maybe one or two are great.

    But sadly they will end up dying in the crossfire.

    What if I made some kind of superweapon that controls minds en-masse? Anyone know of any fiction that I can draw inspiration for it from?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:14 No.13494706
    ...No, wait, I do recall sending you a message pod about my flowers to your colony on Delta Phi beforehand

    ...What do you mean, your colony blew up mysteriously?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:15 No.13494708
    If you have good/great players, approach them OOC and see what they think of the furfags. If they don't like them, ally yourself with them. Two is better than one
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:17 No.13494723
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    >Rose Bomb

    Idea: Your robot thing should be the most FABULOUS BBEG ever. You spend your hard earned jew golds on colonizing worlds so you can grow flowers. Make them think that the only two things you care about are making money, and growing pretty flowers. Then strike with the force of a thousand suns!
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:19 No.13494737
    >What if I made some kind of superweapon that controls minds en-masse? Anyone know of any fiction that I can draw inspiration for it from?
    That psychic weapon that blew up new york from Watchmen.

    The advantage of having robots as minions is they're not affected by purely psychic phenomena.

    Also, the whole "make robots to make more robots was totally covered within the first 15 posts, OP.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)13:19 No.13494738
    Yes... I could steal the good Evil players away from the furfag.

    He'd come after them because 'nobody betrays me because lolmarysuereason', and I will lead him right into a lead lined concrete room, a hundred miles underground, wired to detonate with the force of a nuclear bomb.

    If he tries to transport out, he'll discover that all his ships have mysteriously mutinied and jumped to a nearby system.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:22 No.13494756
    I read a while ago about this book that had a Basilisk Image weapon (or something like that), where it would cause the brain to essentially "crash" if it was seen because the pattern would interfere with the brain's functions. Maybe send out something like that telepathically across the galaxies? A mental image or thought pattern that conscious minds can't handle
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:23 No.13494761
    no there's a much much better and much more devious way to deal with mary sue furfags

    virusses that turn them human... pumped into the air en masse without them knowning

    Then one day they wake up and all their fur has fallen off, their physique changed and their tails reduced to less then a stump

    You are now human, this is your new character sheet. Also genetical alteration of this level is considered a gravest sin against nature so no doctor in the galaxies will reverse whats done lest it be known and used against him
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:24 No.13494770
    The psychic weapon from watchmen was a one shot genetically enchanced psychic bomb. It wasn't mind control, more like mass trauma
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:25 No.13494780
    Well, if it kills people and leaves infrastructure (and your robots) intact, there you go then!

    Give lots of friendly helper robots to everyone, blow up psychic bombs with a proxy terrorist killing everyone, take control of their planets "in their stead".
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:26 No.13494783
    and to extend the pain have every single NPC treat them as just another guy, nothing special about it

    and if they try suicide to roll up a new character have them survive against all odds turning their mary sue-ism against themselves
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:26 No.13494788
    That is fucking brilliant, love it. Might take some heavy negoitation with the DM
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:27 No.13494791
    turning everyone into mindless slaves would be more useful

    empty planet + cheap labor
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)13:27 No.13494801

    That was my thought. Your criticism, sir, has inspired me. We litterally make our defensive system a newton's cradle. Imagine this.

    Shield B - Satellite A - Planet - Satellite B - Shield A

    Shields are generated on the opposite side of the planet from the generator, then linked together. Thus if struck in shield A, both shields blink off long enough for the generator (satellite A) to zoom off at relativistic speeds away from the homeworld. Backup generator then kicks on. A network like that would be pretty hard to overcome without waisting silly amounts of resources sending several objects at relativistic speeds in the same direction. Or an orbit-wide EMP blast.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:28 No.13494803
    PROTIP: use a super massive central blackhole of a galaxy, to reach the relativistic speed of 99,99 % c, by introducing R bombs to the disk around the black hole (of course, you will need some serious shielding for them).
    You could give FTL drives to the R bombs, and if they keep their initial speeds, when entering hiper space or whatever, they can auto-descend anywhere. If a big mass pulls them out of FTL, even better. Aim for a planet...they'll never knew what hit them!
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:29 No.13494810
    So more of a Yuri style Psychic Dominator? Actually, that would be more practical. Something like 20 enchanced psyker brains arranged in a doomsday bunker, ready to fire a mind control pulse anywhere in the galaxy
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:29 No.13494819

    Hey. I had that texture package too...
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:31 No.13494836
    however if such technology is easy to come by I'd also include defences against such weaponry which have to be disabled due to overloading with weapons (gives a perfect excuse for massive spaceships to be in orbit of a planet close to each other ) powerful explosions, emps or sabotage

    thus making it so not every john with a space ship can destroy the capital of the galaxy but a relativistic weapon still is a serious threat
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:35 No.13494866
    do include certain people with immunity through genetics/technology so there's a revolution possible

    it could never be discovered or used but having the option is always good even if its only used by the BBEG to artificially create some opposition for his entertainment which he can shut down any time he wants
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)13:37 No.13494887
    You guys are really helping. Especially regarding relativistic weapons.

    I think I'll make that my weapon of choice.

    So, as for my foot soldiers, they won't be used must. Flying drones with chainguns are easier.

    But just in case, I was think genetically engineered clones. With their biological armor grafted to their skeleton, reducing the chance of them developing a desire for individuality. For their weapons, microwave pain-guns, and precision laser-cutters. Slice up their enemies, or make a group of biologicals writhe in agony and vomit blood. Or even short out all the enemy's electronics and communication equipment.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:38 No.13494892
    I'd imagine it would be seen as the ultimate WMD, perfectly clean, near perfectly lethal. Obviously the stigma attached to developing and making these weapons would be immense, let alone the backlash from being found to have used one. But then, the galaxy is a big place
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:39 No.13494902
    That's a potential weakness.

    No. Why on earth would anyone think it's a good idea to make some people immune to your mind control on purpose?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:41 No.13494922
    do include defenses against relativistic weaponry though

    otherwise the good guys can just take a space ship and do a heroic sacrifice right into the middle of your lair

    and stock up on other types of superweapons if they get a hold of said defenses

    And read the evil overlord list... the most dangerous villain is the genre savvy one. (unless ofcourse you want to entertain everyone with a hilariously over the top villain getting some dm fiat that way)
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:43 No.13494944
    cause its boring to just have control over an entire planet

    its so much more rewarding to see some ants futily attempting to end you (and since its a campaign it would be incredibly boring for the BBEG to just be able to lol mindcontrol the heroes )
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:44 No.13494949
    Good choice on the ground troops, good spread of weapons, and villanous to boot. Also, just a suggestion, why not a quadraped heavy weapons platform, armed with a railgun, as its the signature gun of your enterprise
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)13:46 No.13494965

    Don't forget Klingon-style backup organs and Fremen-style cultural training. In fact, if you can, find Fremen/Saurdukar-esque people to clone, then adapt them. Even better if you adapt them cybernetically, with intrinsic kill-switches that they don't even know about.

    Also, as a man guilty of anthropomorphism from time to time, I approve of the humanizing virus. Give those furfags hell.

    Oh Great Mind, what other tasks do you have for your faithful servant?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:46 No.13494967
    >do include defenses against relativistic weaponry though
    In Iron Quest, pretty much the only way you could effectively do this when you're using stars as power sources is to first hide the star in a dyson swarm then move the stars in question so no-one knew where they were.

    Or siphon off all the hydrogen and other material and rebuild the star elsewhere.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:48 No.13494980
    if its possible I'd include fail safe mechanisms in said clones

    say explosives in an internal pouch or neurotoxin that is released if they are killed. Explosives are better if you think they'll have a bit of free will and might rat you out under torture but the neurotoxines are better as a fuck you weapon for any hero trying to stab them in the back (bonus points if they are immune to said toxin)
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)13:49 No.13494989

    Weapons platform is a good idea. Appleseed is your friend when it comes to mobile weapons platforms. 6-8 legs will be the most stable, and can withstand at least two legs being shot out before going down.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)13:49 No.13494990
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    Sounds good.

    Maybe have the soldier commanders be able to see through their soldier's HUD for better tactical control. Or a 3d overview so they can plan everything out.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:49 No.13494991
    you could try the various defenses mentioned in this thread such as the offbounching shield or the one directing the shockwave into the earth or even the slowing shield

    just to have some form of defense against them in case the heroes get a hold of just even one of them
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:50 No.13494995
    >self-destruct in any of your systems

    Yeah.... that won't backfire at all.

    No, loyalty to you is where you need it.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:50 No.13495002
    Hang on, we're thinking small time. Why have back up's when we could 90% of the soldier redundant? The future of warfare is a machine after all, and with psychic dominators and railguns being thrown around, a weapons platform that is mindless and can mount a railgun would be perfect.
    But then, I'm a tread head
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:51 No.13495005
    Set up a separate cloning plant for uber-loyal clones, then have them "defect" to the Mary-Sues. It'll give them a huge trip to think that the "poor oppressed clones wish to rise up against their inhuman master" and you can initiate order 66 at any time.
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    Fuck all this noise. You have a universe full of entrenched nobility and mary sue privilege?

    Sounds like you need an extreme populist revolution, Comrade.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:51 No.13495010
    Hmmm, so something like the big ass spider tanks from GITS? I mean the one from the second (?) episode, not the little blue ones
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:52 No.13495012
    fremen type cultural training might be incompatible with the cloned troopers

    better is tleilaxu style genetical imprinting (to stay in the Duneverse)
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)13:53 No.13495029
    I need ideas for other bioweapons.

    I honestly love the humanizing virus. Hilarious.

    But how could I spread a virus through space? If I put it in a missile or something it might just destroy the virus.

    I could have stealth drones shipped into port, some of my Mind Controlled sleeper agents put them together, and then they fly about, spreading plague across the world.

    Then the sleeper agents disassemble them, and move off world, to another port not yet infected.

    Any other ideas?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:54 No.13495038
    But Iron Quest was a lot more hard-science than this setting. Here, for example, you might be able to do things like this:

    -Use multiple FTL engines powered by a star to move that same star
    -Use a star-powered FTL engine or wormhole generator to intercept and move an incoming projectile
    +Bonus points if you can send it back to where it came from
    -Cloak an entire star
    -Use focused gravitics to destroy an incoming projectile
    -Use a buttload of psychics to destroy an incoming projectile
    -Use a buttload of psychics to detect when someone is building or firing an RKV and kill them messily
    -Build a star-powered laser, but use a wormhole to direct its beam fucking anywhere
    -Make a coffee out of nothing
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:54 No.13495039
    >Why have back up's when we could 90% of the soldier redundant?
    Because when the mary sues find the big weakspot to your robots and manage to infect them with some computer virus for a while you need backup forces that won't be affected and can still shoot straight.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:55 No.13495041
    however the neurotoxines which they are themselves immune to are a fun addition

    hero backstabs them suddenly gas everywhere

    and all breathing aparatusses in the uniforms of said clones could be laced with it preventing the standard tactic of impersonate the clone

    (although clear seetrough helmets could also solve that)
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:55 No.13495043
    Killing machines from the mecha womb to their deaths on your blood soaked battlefields? Good in theory, but would suffer from uncontrollabilty in early deployment phases (ages 6 upward). Perhaps addict to something to ensure control?
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)13:55 No.13495046

    Actually, that's a good point you raised. Though I have to say, it's not a good idea to go fully machine. Hacking and or destruction of the control ship could put the army out of action in a snap. A mix would be best, though how that mix is achieved, I'm not sure.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:55 No.13495050
    How to spread a virus through space?
    Colonization. Have all of your colonists carry this virus, so the instant the Mary Sues land on your planets or trading ports or get in contact with ANYTHING from you - and they will, once they find out who you are - then they find they're beginning to lose their fur...
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:56 No.13495067
    Since you're in control of their development from start to finish, you could just make their neural pathways make them 110% loyal to you. Make them willing to saw off their arm and eat it if you get a penny out of it.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:57 No.13495076
    virusses are extremely resilient due to the fact they don't truly live

    so they can't truly die

    there are virusses that can withstand outer space for days in a state of torpor and revive when they come into contact with heat and air

    put them in missiles that can drill into space ship hulls to release the virus or just be launched into the atmosphere of a planet
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:58 No.13495083
    >(although clear seetrough helmets could also solve that)
    THIS. Can't stress enough, if you have masks for a uniform, make that shit see through or require it to be removed for security checks
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)13:59 No.13495104
    make them believe the rest of the galaxy sees them as mindless abominations during said periods

    which they actually do because they in fact become ultra loyal abominations later on
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:00 No.13495111
    They need to see and understand your motivations as correct.

    If you're uniting the galaxy because that's truly what needs to happen to make life better for everyone, instill them with the same values you have, but don't make them smart enough to figure it out. Don't make them stupid enough to trade two pennies for one nickle under the auspice of getting more for less either.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:01 No.13495123
    If you wire a small amount of brain matter into the troop's gunship's computers, you could control them with your psychic powers. If you want to add a personal touch, give them voice synthesizers that are normally unoperational unless you're in control, and then mock the PCs as you strafe them, firing off rockets and lasers while you troops back them into a wall.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:01 No.13495125
    Never liked bioweapons, but I suppose with cyborg forces it doesn't matter. Perhaps some classic nerve gas, paralysis only, excellent for recovering important agents or robbing technology without resistance. Up the dose, and boom, lethal. As for delivery, the drill torpedoes this anon (>>13495076) mentioned would be perfect. Follow up with a uncontested boarding action
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:02 No.13495143
    and clones that are not required for infiltration missions should have a specific facial trait that makes them easy for anyone to discern

    if shapeshifting or holographic alterations available to the heroes make genetical checkpoints everywhere. Since they are clones they should have a nearly identical genetical makeup while the impersonator stands out like a sore thumb

    also include vaporization cannons pointed at said genetical checkup station
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)14:02 No.13495149

    The Joker's cell-phone trick comes to mind. IT HURTS.

    Except, in stead of having a retarded guy get arrested, just have a clone with an implant immigrate to said planet while carrying the virus. Have him give the furries hugs. Seriously. Furries love hugs and snuggles. The humanizing virus will be spread though contact as well as being airborne.

    Further bioweapons... Well, you'd need something to deal with the vampire. A blood-borne disease which causes the rapid degeneration of dead tissue. That's it. Live tissue is unaffected, but dead tissue rapidly breaks down. Being a mary-sue, there will likely be no other vampires around. Otherwise she wouldn't be unique. Thus, nobody will be able to test her meals for her.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:03 No.13495152
    >Trade two pennies for a nickel
    >Lose money
    I'm pretty sure nickels are worth five pennies, not less than two.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:03 No.13495156
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:04 No.13495165
    Alternately, the riskier but safer method is to simply flash-clone your own (tweaked) personality onto the clones. That way their goals WILL be your goals, and they're damn smart too.

    Just don't put in all of their plans in case someone mindrapes them or something.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:04 No.13495166
    Just make your viruses time-activated and slip them into something innocuous. Like twinkies. Suggestions for bioweapons:

    -Causes fatal diarrhea
    -Causes rapid and random activation of psychic powers
    -Destroys cartilage and bone
    -Causes rapid aging
    -Causes rapid age regression
    -Causes auto-amputation
    -Liquefies spine
    -Inflicts insatiable cravings for the flesh of others
    -Destroys inhibitions
    -Eats away eyelids
    -Acts as a homing beacon for psychic attacks
    -Causes rapid growth of blood vessels
    -Destroys memories

    And if you can put a mix of all bioweapons into each batch, more power to you.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:05 No.13495173
    Oooh, the vampire, good point. What are the weaknesses of vamps in this setting?
    Assuming standard spread, would a UV irradiated bullet kill her?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:05 No.13495176
    every virus is build up around a single silver ion just like hemoglobin is build up around an iron atom

    let them suck on that
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:06 No.13495189
    And this, my son, is why you always double check that the boxes of Quality Street are opened before giving them to the boss
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:07 No.13495191
    well if vampirism is a sort of viral infection your humanization virus (love the idea btw) could be the "cure"
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:07 No.13495192
    PROTIP: In conjunction with the psychic bombs that kill psychics only, offer psychic vaccinations to aforesaid bombs.

    Except that sideeffects kill your psychic ability permanently, not temporarily.

    You can add long-delay viruses into those too.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:09 No.13495208
    cancer inducing virusses

    they have the additional bonus of the fact that cancer is technically part of the human body so magic made to erase cancer will (if not properly formulated) erase the entire organ if they work magic into it somehow
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)14:10 No.13495228
    Vampire are weak to x-rays in this setting, for some retarded reason.

    Still. X-ray bullets could work.

    Also vampires can be killed by removing their head.

    Which, with the footsoldier's extremely precise laser, shouldn't be a problem.

    >Homing Beacon for Psychic attacks.
    If I only used it for nerve gas, I could expose the PCs to it, and if they live, well, I can now mindfuck them whenever I want anyways. Assuming the beacon is permanent.

    Use their own furfaggotry against them. I love it. Brilliant.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:11 No.13495230
    no the viruses are of the sleeper kind that can survive for longer then a human life

    the antidote does not kill the viruses in a body but just makes them inactive

    each psychic will have to get a shot of antidote every 2 or so days and the only way they'll get it is by working for you
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:13 No.13495249


    x-ray penetrates a shitload

    make your clones extremely resistant to x-ray and remove the radiation shielding around your space ships. They won't even be able to board your ships cause they'll be fried by background radiation instantly
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:14 No.13495266
    X-Rays? Excellent, nuclear beam weapons are a go. You do have nuclear beam guns?
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)14:15 No.13495278

    I like this guy. Also, since the clones are genetically predisposed to being bros, get suicide squads going. Infect them with the equivalent of the rage virus on a timer. Send them in small groups to enemy planets. Give the virus a kill-switch reaction to a certain series of frequencies. While inherently lulzy, you could set the virus to switch off to opera music, ala Mars Attacks.

    Use this as a distraction while your real plans are going off. In fact, you could use this to set up clone-controled proxies, such as governmental parties and corporations, as well-loved protectors of the people. The clones offer to protect the population while the players exterminate the remaining zombies. This has the added effect of the players trusting your proxies, enabling you to backstab them.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)14:16 No.13495289
    Well yeah.

    >Nuclear Weapons are still widely used.
    Fuck yes, another reason to use those.
    >> Subbrain 01/12/11(Wed)14:18 No.13495308

    Ideally, you could basically just create a super rapidly reproducing nanomachine virus. Have it invade cells, reprocess the cell matter to replicate, and then have the cell explode and release more. End Result: Delicious Liquefying virus.

    Also, perhaps you could do something like a Cyberman (Dr. Who)/Cybran (Supreme Commander) hybrid for your stormtroopers. Have a cranium containing a psychically and electronically shielded AI/brain construct. This should keep EMP effects to a minimum and prevent psychic shenanigans. Furthermore, it could allow you to have absolute authority via the AI, yet still have the unit at combat efficiency if someone attempts to shut off or hack the brain

    But then again, I'm just talking out of my ass
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:19 No.13495317
    I heard you talk about a humanization virus

    maybe you could make this part of the BBEG's plans. He could wish to make all sentient creatures human because differences create war, war creates suffering. What is one small sacrifice like that compared to peace
    And send his gift to all corners of the galaxies.

    Or just use this as some kind of justification and semi-plausible plan while the real shit's going down elsewhere. And if they manage to catch up to you you could listen to their speech about how making everyone human isn't going to solve a thing. Then pretend to suddenly see the light and that you'll help rebuild the damage you've done (mary sues love that kind of shit) while all you'll do is make sure the true plan is still going and you'll be prepared for what they did last time to get to you
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:19 No.13495324
    Good to know OP. Something brilliant about the flash of light and mushroom cloud caused by a nuke. However, you will have to use a standard fusion bomb, neutron bombs might not cut it
    >> Subbrain 01/12/11(Wed)14:20 No.13495341
    Viruses need living material to propagate. Infecting a dead body does nothing. Though, if the host has living subordinates......
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:22 No.13495355
    x-ray is also very harmful to living tissue and very energetic while being part of the electromagnetic spectrum

    make your troops use x-ray lasers instead of light based lasers making them A a fuckton more powerful and B hurt the living shit out of vampires even without a headshot
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:23 No.13495367
    maybe something like the T-virus

    1 it creates hordes of zombies for a planet to fight and 2 it would be hilarious on vampires
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)14:24 No.13495381

    Also, what if I modify some of my clones, so they can Shapeshift, and have psychic powers of their own?

    That would be brilliant, because then I could have them infiltrate a nation, maybe get high up in their government, and feed me information. All while training mind-controlled domestic terrorists to take out military targets at my command.

    One of the clones might even become a general, or something, and lead his army into a trap.
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)14:24 No.13495389

    Oh God. Oh God. You did not. Oh hell. Parasites. Chest-bursting parasites. There are things in the furry sphere which those will play off of. Things that make the majority of furries cry. I will speak no further about this matter.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:26 No.13495409
    make sure they are extremely well conditioned and suicide immediately when captured (genetically altering so they can actually stop themselves from breathing to the point they die should work)

    Impersonating a shapeshifter is way to easy
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:27 No.13495422
    >> Subbrain 01/12/11(Wed)14:28 No.13495431

    Also, delicious invisible guns. God tier sniping weapon right there, if the range is long enough. Easy way to off the vampire faggot.

    Alternatively, invite him to your decoy home planet. At security checkpoint, claim to check him for weapons and other contraband per customs laws. Lock him in X ray tunnel thing as in airports. Hilarity. If they object, claim it was a accident. After all, how could you know that clone 1893839's 2.5% inefficiency would result in a faulty lock down mechanism?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:28 No.13495433
    we already have a humanization virus

    which is far more hilarious since it doesn't kill them and removes all their drama at the same time
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:30 No.13495455
    its a laser with much higher energy then regular lasers meaning it will disperse much less over long ranges

    and lasers have loooooooooong ranges
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:32 No.13495468
    Since lasers are apparently common, try having a computerized reflection shield installed in your soldier's armor.

    Guy tries to laser them from behind? Uh oh, it got reflected back at you and now you face is melted off.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:32 No.13495470
    oh god I just had an idea for security measure

    remember that laser room in the Resident evil movie?

    now with x-ray lasers it'd be invisible and just as deadly
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)14:32 No.13495473

    That method of vampire control is brilliant.
    >>   01/12/11(Wed)14:33 No.13495487
    >-Inflicts insatiable cravings for flesh

    Delicious autocannibalism, leads to:
    >-Destroys cartilage and bone
    >-Causes auto-amputation
    >-Eats away eyelids
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:33 No.13495490
    Dollhouse has a mass mind-altering/mind control tool.

    A frequency that overwrites the person's personality with a preprogrammed one; you just send in probes with rad comm gear and make every single thing on every single planet in every habitable system a resonator. Every piece of glass, metal, and plastic tunes in to your satellite's message and you pump that frequency out to overwrite people's brains with your servant/assassin/Mary-Sue murder program.
    >> Subbrain 01/12/11(Wed)14:34 No.13495493
    I am a geneticist by trade with only a basic understanding of physics.

    This pleases me greatly. Is there any way to modify an xray superweapon into a discoball of death?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:35 No.13495513
    you have to have a way to focus it and have a high constant energy supply for it to work

    but since its space opera neither should be hard
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:35 No.13495519
    >Snipe a vampire from a hundred klicks away
    >Get stabbed and spread neurotoxins everywhere
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:36 No.13495531
    an entire planet suddenly turning into assassins bent on killing the heroes?

    holy shit... but you'd have to have massive dm fiat for it to work
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:38 No.13495554
    Don't forget you can have x-ray grenades. Self-contained one-shot x-ray laser, backscatter mirrors, battery, housing, and pin.

    Pull n' fry.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:39 No.13495570
    Sure is Blade in here.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:39 No.13495571
    beautiful part is that it actually works as a lethal weapon even to regular organical creatures so you have no excuse not to use it

    infrared allergy> x-ray allergy

    you could have a fun thing going on op
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)14:43 No.13495615
    At this point, with all the ideas flying around, I think the PCs are fucked.

    A nice goal to have would be, when any of the PCs see one of my soldiers, they RUN. They get off planet. They don't stop running until they have a hundred light years between them and it.

    God help them if there's more than one.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:44 No.13495628
    only for you to already have planned where they are going to and have a sleeper cell of shapeshifters waiting
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:47 No.13495659
    What about disembodied psychics ala Force Ghost?

    If that works, you could mentally condition psychic clones, so you can kill them and they can invisibly mind control people while spying on them.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:51 No.13495691
    If that is possible, I'd imagine the mary-sues would try to do it when they (inevitably) die.

    So the question is: How do you KILL a psychic "force ghost"?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:51 No.13495695
    Excellent, herding now defurred furfaggots across the cosmos into the path of our black hole powered nuclear tipped relativistic kill vehicle.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:53 No.13495708
    While it could be fun to play I guess, OP's campagin setting and characters sounds awful from a storytelling perspective.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:53 No.13495714
    With psychic energy or some sort of psy-affecting tech.

    I guess some sort of "psychic EMP" could do it.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:54 No.13495719
    Mon Dieu! Zoot alors, how could we have missed zis!? Phony french accent aside, neural disrupters. Some kind of fancy electric field, which fucks with peoples brain patterns. On widespread dispersal, just makes psychic powers difficult to use, but focused on one target, can wipe out their entire neural network, instant brain death.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:54 No.13495726
    And, as this thread has proved, /tg/ can make it awesome anyway.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:56 No.13495740
    I thinks its mostly the characters supplying the awful IMO. The only fault with the setting is the 13 galaxies thing.
    Also, many settings with poor stories are saved by their villians. Star Wars for example
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)14:59 No.13495761
    they're not that horrible

    I'd love to have them over for some paranoia

    Vampirism is treason citizen
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)14:59 No.13495763
    Alright, so we've figured out how to conquer the cosmos. But what to do with the conquered peoples? Brainwashing concentration camps?

    The PCs might find one and have to free all the people, not knowing that they have been programmed to play along and betray them when it is most beneficial to me.

    After they've been brainwashed, I have them rebuild their lives, make each world a Utopia, free from crime, disease, or want. That will make the Mary Sues seem like giant dicks when they come to 'liberate' the planet. It would be even more hilarious if one of the PC's friends or lovers was trapped on the planet and brainwashed along with the others, and when the PC returns to free him or her, he/she doesn't want to be free, trying to explain that his/her life is perfect now as the PCs try to unbrainwash him/her.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:02 No.13495796
    Why do you need people? Just convert all that biomass to clone soldiers or dump it into the Forge.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:07 No.13495841
    Ah yes, the 'Forge'.

    Use the people as RKVs.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:09 No.13495861
    Do this, but without the brainwashing. Have the inevitable psychic PC inform the group that the people aren't brainwashed or manipulated at all. This life you offer is genuinely better.
    Basically be a cosmic version of Doctor Doom.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:10 No.13495865
    Why brainwash them? Why not just give them peace and prosperity? In a setting with mind control, I'd assume it'd be harder (for the other PCs) to control someone that willingly supports you. Unless mind control is HURP DURP ABSOLUTE.

    Or just do what >>13495796 said... Although that's quite a bit more on the "Reasons for everyone to hate you" side of villainy.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:11 No.13495881
    isn't dr doom already cosmic?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:11 No.13495887
    Once the people realize how amazing their lives are now, and support you, then what?

    Not much you can do with them.

    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:13 No.13495898
    He varies. Depends on if he's packing the cosmic cube or not. But he's to focused on RICHARDS! to bother with universe conquering
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:14 No.13495913
    Enjoy power? Honestly, I'd like a villian that just retired and enjoyed the power he'd gained
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)15:15 No.13495924

    Oh Great Mind, I agree with the others.

    Become an intergalactic version of Genghis Khan. A maiden with a shipload of spice should be able to travel from one end of the empire to another alone, and not be attacked.

    Only you can do this.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:16 No.13495937
    It makes a powerful punch when the "heroes" find out that the villain is doing a better job at being the good guy than them.

    Also it makes the job of gathering resources to defeat the BBEG that much harder for the other players.

    The best weapon is the support of the people.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:21 No.13495994
    Oh, yes, yes there is. If we're going with the "conquer 10 whole galaxies" plan, you're going to end up with trillions and trillions of people. Those people have minds. And what, exactly, is the basis of psychic power?

    Turn your citizens into a unified psychic engine! Do stuff! Like...

    -Create the Warp, put the PCs in it
    -Kill everyone else in the universe
    -Make the other galaxies collide
    -Send the PCs, via wormhole, to another universe
    -Conquer the entire universe
    -Use wormholes to conquer other universes
    -Become a god, toy with the PCs until you get bored
    -Reduce the PCs to below-average stats and power
    -Do nothing, because at this point you have won the game
    >> -|- Reichsguard -|- !!Q3opPDaKzPo 01/12/11(Wed)15:24 No.13496021
    >-Make the other galaxies collide
    Wouldn't do much, since there's really lot of nothing between the stars. You would just make one big galaxy instead of two smaller.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:25 No.13496033
    And then you start compacting it.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)15:27 No.13496068
    I could also set up Wormholes that stretch across the galaxy in such a way that the Trade routes change in such a way that my enemies are denied resources.

    Unless you submit, you people will starve, and wither on the vine, Mr. President. Your choice.

    In addition to making them safer, or course. Very dense patrols, and RKVs for planets that house pirates and other scum.
    >> Subbrain 01/12/11(Wed)15:28 No.13496085
    This is your superweapon, ala Yuri's Revenge and the Advent. Take surplus population and plug them in to power psychic weaponry.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:30 No.13496115
    >But Iron Quest was a lot more hard-science than this setting. Here, for example, you might be able to do things like this:

    Wouldn't it make sense from a hard sf point of view to use gravity generators or just dark matter to create a gravity well in the path of the projectile, thus diverting it?
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)15:31 No.13496127
    My friends. We have just won this game. I for one welcome our robotic brain overlord.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:35 No.13496179
    No such thing as a gravity generator in Iron Quest. Dark matter wasn't mentioned either, I don't think. Whether you could do what you're thinking depends on how hard-science the setting is. We definitely couldn't do that with current technology, which is the extreme end of it.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:38 No.13496210
    >Have the people serve as your police force and honor guard
    >Subtly shift their culture towards glorifying you, the ruler of the galaxy
    >Become the God-Emperor
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)15:43 No.13496265
    So, basically, we've planned out how I will conquer the universe.


    Now, what to do with the new, unified universe.

    I smell a sequel.

    The Empire is in peril. The Emperor has chosen you, one of his greatest warriors, to defend it against the external threats that will destroy it.

    Suddenly Yuuzhan Vong.
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)15:45 No.13496286

    Ok. One thing to add. Due to the wormholes being the main source of travel between galaxies, I suggest high level battle stations on your side of the incoming wormholes. Require check-ins. Display military might. Emphasize the fact that this are a beneficent but mighty force. Include description of fully-armored troops coming home for leave and picking up children/hugging wives. Humanize your NPCs as much as you can. Even your clones. Don't make them faceless mooks. Make them truly a society of badass justice.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:47 No.13496315
    If there are any threats left in the universe after this is over, you've done it wrong.

    Now, if they're invading from another universe, then shit gets real.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)15:51 No.13496351
    Yeah, they'd be from another universe.

    Maybe make them Reapers. Then we can have Mass Effect too.

    Actually, that's a terrible idea.
    This is a good idea though.

    One last question. If there are any PCs left alive, and they aren't the Mary Sues, what should I do with them?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:54 No.13496382
    Give them a choice. They can either be mind-wiped and become part of the psychic Gestalt, or they can be sent, via wormhole, to a parallel universe that is *almost* the same. With basic supplies, of course.
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)15:54 No.13496387

    Learn from Reinhard von Lohengramm. If they are worth anything, offer them positions of power in your government or to live in peace provided that they do not rock the boat. If they refuse to stop fighting, kill them off hand. If they accept your offer, then all is good.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:56 No.13496397
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    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)15:57 No.13496408
    offer them a job as regional governor if they pledge loyalty

    after all if they're good enough to evade you for so long they're quality humans

    insist that they wear a signet ring thats actually a powerful explosive that cannot be removed
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)16:00 No.13496432
    Serve or Die

    If they aided you against the Mary Sues:
    Regional authority in their own kingdom, which is a client state of yours. Find out their vices and desires.. supply them.
    A little competition is good. But most people just want to kick back and enjoy life's banquet.
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)16:04 No.13496471
    What the hell is that pic?

    Besides that, thank you, comrades. You have been more than helpful.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)16:05 No.13496481
    Anyone think this should be archived?
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)16:06 No.13496494
    The fate reserved for the other PCs.

    I think it's a person forcing its way out of another person.
    I don't know just that it looks horrible.
    >> sir Hakesto 01/12/11(Wed)16:06 No.13496497

    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)16:13 No.13496545
    >> OP 01/12/11(Wed)16:14 No.13496557
    Alright, thanks again guys.

    In a year once it's over I'll tell you how it goes.
    >> Anonymous 01/12/11(Wed)19:04 No.13498204
    Since no one appears to have suggested it yet, OP should probably read this thread for some helpful tips on being a total and utter bastard: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/5820756/

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