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    198 KB Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:16 No.13545768  
    Reverse Chivalry followup, it's been a good while since and some important stuff has happened.

    Last time people asked for the update to get right into it, so that's the idea this time.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:17 No.13545775
    Thank you. Please proceed.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:19 No.13545792
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    In two games, I figure the followup can be separated into two parts, for each game. The first, what happened the first game and in captivity, the second for the second game and the battle/war. Each are, understandably, rather important to the game overall.

    As for the game overall, the most recent thread is here for seeing what's happened so far;


    Otherwise, I'll start detailing it out.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:22 No.13545821
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    So last time what had happened was, the Paladin wife had cast of her squire and left the Order after they attempted to kidnap my character.

    Once freeing him he rejoined the party and main game, and under her protection and with the help of the party, things started to become more normal once more. Eventually though the Order came calling for my character. They could recognize the paladin leaving of her own accord, but my guy was a slave, their property and they weren't set to give him up.

    And so they hounded us for awhile, it becoming increasingly harder and harder to avoid conflict with them.
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    The party Rogue, not interested in fighting for my character's sake, made a shady deal on the side to turn my guy over to the Order, which he did.

    With that, they carted my guy back to their HQ, while the party was left in the dust, unable to pursue or do anything. They forced the Rogue out, but it didn't change the situation to their favor.

    Meanwhile, my guy and the ooze mage who'd snuck into his bag, were imprisoned in the Order main stronghold; a large citadel built over a cathedral containing the entrance to an abandoned dwarf fort. He was being held hostage, in hopes of luring the Paladin and the party into action.

    The party however, intended to do away with the Order altogether, and go to war.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:31 No.13545873
    please tell me you've chosen ooze-mage sperm!
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:32 No.13545878

    Annnnnd you have my attention.
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    >The party Rogue, not interested in fighting for my character's sake, made a shady deal on the side to turn my guy over to the Order, which he did.


    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:33 No.13545891
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    That was basically where things ended last time.


    It picked up with my guy in captivity, with his captors deciding what to do with him until the party arrived to be killed.

    As per suggestion, a number of ideas and plans of what to do while being held by them came up. Anything ranging from becoming friendly with the guards, to a complex plan to corrupt the Order members from within (literally) with the ooze mage.

    Still though, very easy and straightforward was to give my rations to the ooze mage to help her grow bigger.

    This was the idea for awhile and was working well, but they figured out what to do when the reigning priestess in charge was given free time to focus on the situation.

    The solution was to complete a ritual that was mostly mandatory for the Order, specifically males.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:39 No.13545948
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    This part is pretty hard to explain and understand, so I'll write it out as it happened, then try to explain it.


    My guy was brought from his tower cell, and handed over to the priestess. Of note, assisting her were a large number of powerful mages in the Order (despite being reverse chivalry-based, it's not all knights that are in it). This was still something out of the ordinary though, as specific mages weren't all that common, usually busy out in the field commanding operations.

    For them to be assembled in one place meant this was important. Which it was, it was one of the most, if not the most important/sacred rituals of the Order. I'd heard of it before on a few occasions but was never sure what it was all about, except that all couples were required to go through with it before marriage, except in some rare cases.

    The head priestess explained to my guy what was going on, why it was important and why he was important, and what was expected of him.

    Naturally given my guy's psychological state, most of it was lost on him, but out of character I was trying to understand what it meant.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:42 No.13545968
    itt: delicious femdom fantasy
    fap fap fap
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:48 No.13546012
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    My computer's going really slow for some reason, sorry for the trouble.


    Anyway, the fact that they were treating him so courteously, despite who he was made clear the importance of this. Just for reference, they were treating him with care and compassion, making sure he was comfortable and well-fed beforehand. They also dressed him nicely for the thing. Whether this was because they recognized the mental state he was in so took extra care, or because they were actually nice people (not from here, associated with more the religious aspect of the Order) wasn't clear, maybe a mix of both.

    Regardless, things were prepared and he was prepped in the cathedral, and once ready the whole group proceeded through the entrance to the fort below. All in all the group was about 10-15, not including my guy and the priestess.

    And so began the trek into the dark. My guy didn't notice obviously, but it was made clear that all the mages/knights and the priestess were all on the alert, and clearly very cautious, expecting some danger.
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    It must have taken at least a day or two, judging by how we stopped to camp, eat, etc... All the while though, again, they kept on the lookout and were very weary of anything. As well, my guy was always kept roughly in the center of the group, with the knights guarding him closely. Not because they expected him to escape or anything, but to genuinely protect him.

    These knights were, by the way, the inquisitor types, the often legit evil members of the Order that were still religious and served it.

    About two days maybe three into the trek, they were more on edge than usual, having found whatever it was they were tracking, based on signs about the place. Rather gruesome signs I might add, bloody carcasses and rotten carrion and bones strewn about in no particular pattern.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:57 No.13546076
    write faster goddamn.

    also, you're like a fucking t.v. "holy shit this is awesome and getting somewhere look at how awesome everything will be, right after this commercial break"

    i love you.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:57 No.13546083
    a fucking t.v. show*
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)19:58 No.13546086
    second, my hard on is softening
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)20:04 No.13546155
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    Sorry, my computer was buggy for a minute there, but it seems alright now.


    It happened out of the blue, during I think lunch. Out of the dark they sensed it and dropped everything to take the defensive.

    Not long after, a figure pounced pretty much in the midst of the formation, tossing aside people like ragdolls. It was hard to make out at first, but it was clear that it was vicious and very powerful. Of note, it wasn't outright killing anyone, just getting them out of the way. Even the 5 or so knights that were shoulder to shoulder around my guy.

    With most everyone aside for the immediate time being, I got to see it up close. A very pale, very filthy young woman, unclothed and beastly in mannerisms. She took ahold of him with ease, examine him closely through her matted, bloody hair. Sniffing him, pressing her face right up to look, but impossible to resist; despite her young appearance and average frame, she was impossibly strong, tossing aside fully armored knights with ease. Also something was off about her, apart from the whole naked, bloody, unkempt and animalistic deal. Her complexion, her gaze and other minor things didn't seem human, and changed to suit her emotions.

    All in all, being so sudden, so violent and unexpected, I couldn't do much. Partly from fear, but mostly because she was holding him like a doll, and nothing could loose her at the moment.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)20:09 No.13546190
    Keep posting OP. I have to drive to work so I won't be back in the thread for about an hour.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)20:10 No.13546206
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    After a few seconds, she changed quite violently. She must have not liked what she had or saw, and started growling, showing signs of anger for the first time. Quite simply she tossed him into a wall, breaking some ribs, and leapt after, landing on top and biting into him, breaking an arm.

    Thankfully the priestess intervened, and had some effect better than the others, as they'd been either trying to use force (the knights) or spells (mages) to subdue her but it wasn't working. The priestess though did some incantation, which stunned her for a moment. At that she instructed the mages that it was the opportunity, and they did the same. About 10 of them and the priestess, acting to incite some sort of ritual that pacified her. She struggled naturally, but once the priestess grabbed ahold of her she seemed rather docile. With the help of the knights they were able to drag her off, and get ahold of her.

    Close call one might say, she very nearly killed my guy.
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    After that, they got ahold of things. Gathering things up, keeping the strange being subdued and healing my guy. It wasn't complete thought, they couldn't fix broken ribs, fractured spine, broken arm and leg, as well as internal hemorrhaging and massive blood loss down here in the caverns. It was just a quick fix till we could get topside.

    And so we began the trek back. Along the way, when my guy was conscious, the priestess conversed with him, making clear more than once that he was lucky to have survived, but that it was to be expected/routine from the First One, the name they kept using for the strange woman.
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    Anyway so we reached topside, and he was properly treated and handled with care. Conversely, the First One although brought up from the dark, wasn't brought out of the fort, just kept within the extension of the cathedral into the dwarf fort.

    From there it was made clear what everything was and what happened, if not to be understood in character then out of character. I soon realized how vastly important this turn of events, and this person was to the game as a whole.

    As I said in a previous thread, this current game was more or less an extension of a previous game, taking place in the same setting/world, merely hundreds of years later. A big part of this game, was the effect that our characters from the previous game had on the world, and how we could still see vestiges of them and effects of their efforts in the world and around us.

    Well the First One was one of the characters.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)20:27 No.13546410
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    As it went, in the previous game near the end, the last great challenge for the characters to face was a devil/ancient god coming to power, set to burn the world.

    In the end, although coming out more or less victorious, the party simply wasn't strong enough to actually defeat/kill the devil, so in a moment of quick thinking (or desperation) the cleric and the mage came up with a hasty plan at the loss of the cleric who was willing to sacrifice herself.

    With a miracle on the clerics behalf, and extreme magic on the mage's, they were able to bind the devil with the cleric. The result effectively contained the evil, but destroyed the clerics mind. After that, things more or less wound down, and the game ended on a bittersweet note, with everyone (except the cleric) getting happy endings and the world returning to peace and prosperity.

    Well here was, apparently under control of the Order, the Cleric. Kept alive by the demon, just the same as she was over 260 years ago, but in the same state. Completely insane, but ungodly powerful.

    The First One, they called her.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)20:33 No.13546456
    F5iiiiing away

    this is actually pretty interesting!
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)20:34 No.13546469
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    Understandably this was a vast discovery. My character didn't understand, but out of character I more or less could piece together what this meant.

    Only one, possibly two others of the first game's party were still alive or had some vestige of them around present day in this game. The other being the Ooze mage, who in the first game was just a lowly mage, just starting to look to/work to specialize with ooze.

    With the Cleric however, I learned that the Order had been using her since their founding and it was because of her that they reached such prominence. It was because of her that the Order was they way it was; treating men as inferior, and having great strength and violent tendencies.

    Like each character of the first game had some effect or legacy, the Clerics legacy was quite wholly the Order itself, founded off of her. The only difference that she was still alive today.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)20:40 No.13546530
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    A quick history lesson from what I was able to guess at, piece together, or assume, all based on what I heard or saw.

    Basically those years back, after the evil was contained and everyone went their separate ways, the mage that co-contained the evil, vowed to take care of the Cleric and possibly help her. Despite not being a cleric herself she was still quite religious.

    The only problem was that she was also optimistic, ambitious, and willing to let evil slide to help the greater good.

    Initially she took credit for containing the evil, and claiming the miracle on her behalf. Because of this she was greatly revered and dubbed a Saint. From there she went around helping people and spreading religion as a vestige of it, all the while keeping the Cleric contained and trying to help her. Thought overtime this goal of hers became less important as she gained more fame and following.
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    Eventually though, it was the Cleric herself that prompted the Saint to found the order in the first place. After the ritual to bind her body and the evil, she was literally insane, yet possessed of immeasurable strength because of the entity she was sharing her body with. Deep down she was only governed by impulses and instinct, and occasionally bouts of memory and familiarity from her old life.

    This played out early on, when her and the Saint while traveling came across a boy that reminded her of her husband. Her husband left her after she lost her mind, but she was unaware, and so seeing a boy similar looking, she mistook him for her husband.

    She basically did what she did with my guy, but without the rejecting him or anger. She carried him around and kept him close, caring for him as she would the man she loved, but as best a shattered mind could. The kicker was, the Saint was not strong enough and was unable to prevent her from taking the boy or keeping her away from him.

    In fact, when the Saint tried, the Cleric simply ran away with the boy, leaving the Saint the trouble to have to track her.
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    Eventually it culminated, when the boy died because the Cleric wasn't able to treat him from poisoning. She remained mourning his death until the Saint found her, but she also found out something else. The Cleric was pregnant.

    Initially this was merely a nuisance for the Saint to have to take care of her better, but when the Cleric had her child it was then that the Saint realized how important she was, or could be.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)20:59 No.13546711
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    This child was human from her father's side, but demonic from her mother's side. And the Saint saw in this the opportunity for salvation. Imagine a being with the strength and capability of the Cleric, but actually sane and devoted to a cause, the benefits of religion.

    That the child was half-devil didn't matter to her, she would raise it properly.

    It was in this that she decided to create the Order as it was. A religious organization with the strength to support and spread the general good, with the social structure of reverse chivalry in which women were the protectors and enforcers while men were the supporters and regulators. Based on the model provided to her, by the Cleric and the Boy, the Cleric being the stronger and protector, but the boy supporting her and being the side of reason (really just in theory, the boy was kept against his will and slowly starved to death).

    And so the Cleric became the First Mother, the Boy the First Father, and the daughter the First Child. The Saint was the caretaker for what everything was to be, and set about building the Order from the ground up while raising the baby as she intended.
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    And so it was from there that the Order was made, with the Saint mothering it to strength and prosperity. The child became a great warrior like her mother, and the forerunner of what would be the inquisitorial arm of the Order; it made sense to me now why those knights never took off their armor in front of people, because of their demonic heritage.

    All the while the dark secret of being fueled by the half-devil First One was hidden away from the world as was she. All that she was used for by the Saint was for breeding with men of the Order to produce more of the demon spawn knights to enforce their ways.

    And so this became tradition for every couple to go through before marriage, that the husband to be would mate with the First One as they were obligated, and would provide yet another of the demon spawn. In this way, every family of the order had at least one extra child on top of however many they had, between the husband and the Fist One.

    This was what my guy was to go through, the ritual they prepared him for and why they went into the depths of the fort (where the Saint kept the First One hidden since the founding), for the purpose of producing another demon spawn, as was to be expected from my guy and his wife.

    Naturally though problems were encountered.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)21:10 No.13546818


    does this mean your wife is demonspawn? because, holy shit, what.
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    As she was truly insane, she tended to kill or eat most anyone she came across in her captivity beneath the cathedral. Indeed, they regularly set loose cattle and such below for her to feed on rather than actually bring her food in person.

    And so the Saint found in the few attempts after the first time, that the First One more than choosing to breed with anyone, simply killed or ate people she was brought. Eventually the Saint devised ways through magic and chemicals to control her moods and make the whole process easier.

    Essentially it was broken down into two ways. Either the First One would "mistake" a male for one she knew and the process would go easier, though she was prone to killing them still. If she rejected them (as she had done with my guy), then she would have to be pacified with magic or chemicals, so that the process could continue. This was even more dangerous though as there was no guarantee that she could be controlled, and she was actively against the process. Still though, the benefits outweighed the risks, and so this had a been a traditional ritual for the Order since it's founding.


    End history lesson.

    And so this is what had been done with my guy, he'd been tested. Luckily the First One rejected him, and had been stopped from killing him. Now those in charge knew what had to be done, but it would take longer and greater precautions, so time was bought.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)21:17 No.13546885
    No, the demonspawn are the Inquisitors.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)21:21 No.13546917
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    No, my wife is a convert. She joined the Order after the crusades.

    The dark knights though, the ones of the inquisition and those that were involved with the torturing and breaking of my character, are all demonspawn. This can be told by their affiliation with the Order and their evil tendencies and duties, as well as physical appearance.

    My wife is a normal person, demon spawn tend to look understandably demonic, varying depending on the mood the First One was in when they were conceived.

    I had never known the nature of this whole dark side of the Order, although I assume my wife had, because she chose to live far away from any of the Order strongholds, and avoided the whole process of having my guy brought in for breeding with the First One.
    >> Titanium Man 01/16/11(Sun)21:26 No.13546962
    Ugh, I can't write any more stuff in this universe. It's fucking depressing. Sorry, OP. I never was good at the grim.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)21:27 No.13546973
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    As stated, thankfully my guy failed the test. This gave it time that the Order would need to take, to prepare the First One for our union. Normally they would subdue her with magic and chemicals, and the prospective male would simply impregnate her. Multiple strong mages and demonspawn on standby in case she resisted and turned violent. Even so though, the pregnancy was all that mattered, and there were many examples where she "broke free" and killed the male, and it was simply stated that it was God's will and he had failed the test, to make things seem better and comfort the guy's wife.

    However because of my guy's state, they would have to make the First One take initiative, and would have to induce rut such that she would either mistake my guy for someone familiar, or that she just wouldn't care that he was a stranger.

    Either way it was a horrible business and things looked grim, but it would take more time than any other way, which was just what we needed. Both me and the ooze mage, as well as the Party to gather the forces.

    And let me say, the timing was perfect.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)21:29 No.13546990
    >reverse chivalry
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)21:31 No.13547001
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    I still love everything you've done so far. It's not all bad, of note, for a good while the Saint was busy and her eye turned, the First One found a tribe of Kobolds who ended up revering her and she lived with and protected.

    That's a whole story altogether though!



    So! That's about the point at which the game shifts, from the first to the second, as well as the focus from finding the First One to the battle and start of the war.

    I'll get onto the war now, though not as important as finding the First One, it's much more action and suspense, which I suspect people want.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)21:32 No.13547018
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    Cutebolds, let me correct myself, with much nose rubbing and shyness all around.
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    >horses riding men
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)21:33 No.13547033
    Oh yeah, that's SFW. The little scrambled bits make it totally cool.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)21:35 No.13547054
    Reminds me of claymore, but nice setting in any case. So are they letting your dude go now he's "done his bit"?
    >> Titanium Man 01/16/11(Sun)21:35 No.13547055

    Well, I'm glad I contributed what I did, but even I, the amazing Titanium Man, have my limits. If I went down the Kefka route it would've just gotten worse and worse. Life's hard enough, I don't need my escapism to make it worse.
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    >> Titanium Man 01/16/11(Sun)21:39 No.13547106
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    Anyway, back on track, the battle.

    So since my guy had been taken, the part kicked the Rogue out, and set about gathering forces from anywhere they could to assist in the coming battle.

    Of note, each party member had their own specific quest of sorts, in which they had to seek the aid of a notable character/NPC in the world, to ask for their assistance in the fight. Each person in the party had their own task/person to seek and complete, and split up to do so.

    I'm kind of jealous that my task was already completed (assistance of the ooze mage), and didn't get to go on a grand adventure as well, but whatever. And so, though it took time, some more than others, eventually most everyone had found their target and gotten the help they needed.

    For the Paladin it was the Lord she served, who brought to the table all his soldiers and other royals that served him as well as other Lords of local lands. The Bard had to get back her old band together, and win a music competition to gain the favor and assistance of the guild (a guild of ALL BARDS ALL OF THEM AMAZING). The Ranger had to get a famous old hero that helped the elves in a time of need but vanished; the old hero turned out to be undead by now, but was one of the party member from the first game (bringing the total to three known to still be alive). The mage had to get a Revolutionary whom had been highly successful and at large, but saw this as a chance to knock down another big evil institution, the Oder. Last was the Thief, who had to seek the assistance of a "Keyser Soze" type criminal legend, who actually turned out to be a corpse, with machines carrying out it's last wishes, but still the help was gained.

    So all the pieces were in play, and the battle was looming. As was though, the time when the mating of my guy and the First One was to occur.
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    too far
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    He hasn't/hadn't. The First One rejected him and the union didn't occur.

    As a result, to make it successful they intend to make her force herself upon my guy (he's in no state to mate with her of his own accord if they simply subdue/keep her unconscious during) to make the union a success.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)21:50 No.13547221
    So is this as far as the campaign's gotten?

    Give us more detail on the others little quests at least then.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)21:51 No.13547235
    So how does your army plan to take on the half demons in the church's army?
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)22:04 No.13547351
    I thought you said her family had been in the Order for ages? You know, with the castle full of stuff brought back from previous crusades?
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)22:50 No.13547848
    Whats going on?
    Did OP get banned or something?
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    This is fascinating. Please keep at this, OP.
    >> Alex 01/16/11(Sun)23:25 No.13548281
    F5'ing at the speed of light.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)23:29 No.13548335
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    OP come back ;_;
    >> Anonymous 01/16/11(Sun)23:52 No.13548602
    >My computer's going really slow for some reason, sorry for the trouble.

    His computer probably failed. He'll be back later when more story has happened.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:08 No.13548807
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    Actually I did get banned.

    It just expired, but I don't think I should continue, I think it's against the rules.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:10 No.13548840
    That's crap. Campaign stories are a core part of what /tg/ is about.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:13 No.13548876
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    I thought so too, but it said I posted a banned URL, I'm not sure what that entails, but if it means getting banned I don't want that.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:13 No.13548882
    That's bizarre. what did it say the reason was?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:14 No.13548892
    Just keep posting. If you get banned again, appeal it on the grounds that you're not doing anything wrong. Banned URL my ass.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:15 No.13548909
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    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:15 No.13548917
    "Banned URL" means you got autobanned because some part of your post accidentally contained words similar enough to certain spammer website URLs that the system thought you were spamming.

    Rephrase your post and try again.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:15 No.13548920
    considering the only URL you posted was the suptg one, that doesn't make a lot of sense.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:16 No.13548924
    Flickr and links to evil spamming sites count as banned URLs. Happened to me a couple of times.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:16 No.13548926

    Maybe if I don't have any images with it? It might be because of that.

    Um... ok then, lets see where I left off...
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:17 No.13548934
    Or post a pic of the text. That used to happen to Frost giant quest all the time.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:17 No.13548936
    I got a couple of those last year, oddly enough while posting no links. It's from an automated process that keeps folks from posting things from shady rapidshare-clone sites. The system sometimes seems to misfire is all. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:22 No.13548987

    Well depending on the demonspawn, their physical attributes vary. Typically though, despite being much physically stronger/agile/tougher than a normal person, they're not nearly as strong as their mother. Now an army of them is different, but one being swamped by like 10 guys is probably going to go down.

    Keep in mind, despite being half demon, along with the attributes that come with that, personality and mentally they're like normal people. They've mostly just been raised to be cruel and merciless.


    No, she's from a royal family, and the home has been in the family from generations. It's filled with things from her ancestors. The Paladin is the first to join the Order, which she did during her crusading days when she first met knights of the Order.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:35 No.13549103
    Yeah, it happened to me too a couple times.
    Never could figure out what bit of text caused the false positives.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:46 No.13549225
    Is storytime over or are we waiting for more Post?

    Doesn't sound like it's over.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:51 No.13549264
    I'm still waiting. Maybe he didn't rephrase enough and got auto-banned again.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)00:54 No.13549296
    maybe it doesn't like the word "Demonspawn"
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)01:50 No.13549910
    Or it could be his computer problems.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)08:31 No.13552745
    Trying to keep the thread alive
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)09:43 No.13553048
    One bump every couple of hours should do it. Anyone around that could do so through the day?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)09:56 No.13553138
    someone archive this, just in case.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)10:09 No.13553231
    Man, if I was the Saint's player, I would be pretty upset about how she turned evil like this. Unless of course, she had some say over how her character acted in the interim, then it's okay
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)10:33 No.13553404
    Oh, motherfuck!

    Was he banned again? I want to hear the conclusion to the story!
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)10:59 No.13553543
    The OP made it sound like the player was more interested in having a huge religion than the morals and ethics involved in maintaining it as a positive force.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)11:33 No.13553793
    Bump for when OP gets back.
    >> noko Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)13:04 No.13554362

    Let's keep the bump train going
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)16:51 No.13556427
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    Update, please!
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)18:38 No.13557460
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)19:33 No.13557970
    Oh thank god it's still here. Hourly bump.

    Any thoughts on what we could email to the admin/moot to help get the ban recinded? Hold on a tic, did anyone check the chatroom on suptg for this guy?
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)21:53 No.13559441
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    Ban expired, gimme a minute to figure things out.

    Real, real sorry for the inconvenience, I guess 4chan just doesn't like me today.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:11 No.13559573
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    Ok, so is there anyone left still interested in this?

    What should I do? If no one cares, I could probably just pick it up another day. It sucks that this happened, but there was no way of knowing.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:15 No.13559619

    I'd be very interested in hearing the rest of the story.

    Please, continue!
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:17 No.13559647
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:21 No.13559689
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    Well here's the kicker, two things;

    1) The thread seems cursed. Plus, it's fairly well along and most of the content is people bumping and thankfully keeping it alive while I was banned. So continuing from here might cut things short.

    2) It's actually pretty late, and I've got work for classes tomorrow. Yesterday was perfect for the thread, but that plan went down the shitter.

    So it might be easier/more convenient if I just pick it up in a new thread tomorrow, after I get out early. Of course, that's just a suggestion, if people want I'll totally continue, whatever people want really.

    I'm doing this for everyone here after all, so what my schedule is like, isn't really important. Any opinions or suggestions on the matter?

    Again, it sucks that all this happened, but I figured/hoped things would go smoothly as usual, but it seems that wasn't meant to be. Infinite thanks to the people who stuck around and kept this going, btw.
    >> Gilgamesh, King of Heroes !EnkiduOJiw!!fXOkC1tdv81 01/17/11(Mon)22:21 No.13559692
    People have been bumping this in your absence in hopes you'd return and post the rest.

    They obviously want you to continue.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:29 No.13559816
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    Ok ok, I'll keep on keepin' on. Damn the consequences!

    I guess first thing, is to post the text part that got me banned. In an image of course. Cross your fingers, here I go...
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:32 No.13559858
    >In an image of course.
    Yes. That.

    >also spiviant
    That too.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:32 No.13559859
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    Please work...
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:37 No.13559927
    That was a surprisingly short bit of text.
    But do continue.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:37 No.13559930
    why the hell would you have gotten banned for that?
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:37 No.13559934
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    Ok cool.


    So the assembled army showed up unexpected, and sent an envoy to the citadel beforehand, demanding that my guy be turned over one last time. Naturally they refused, the ritual was so close to being initiated now, and though the Order forces of the citadel were greatly outnumbered by the army, it was still a massive fortress, and worst came to worst they could threaten to kill my guy, or even maybe let loose the First One upon the army. That was understandably the last resort though, as on top of killing the army, she'd very likely kill of the city and escape as well.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:45 No.13560041
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    And it's the rewritten bit, the first post got me banned, I tried rewriting it to what you see, and I still got banned.


    No idea.


    Well with that they began the siege, and pretty soon the Order members there realized they'd got in over their heads. With all the forces assaulting the place, they had to withdraw. It wasn't a matter of the walls being breached, this was a massive well-built castle. Soldiers and fighters though simply couldn't mount a defensive as they'd be picked off on the walls or battlements.

    So they had to consolidate within the walls and actual castle itself, regroup and plan while waiting for the gatehouse and main doors to be breached so that the actual close fighting (more suited to their favor, with demonspawn present) to begin.

    With all the commotion going on, they figured they'd go ahead and prompt the union between the First One and my guy. The ooze mage must have been aware of this though, and despite her absentminded nature, she could at least react to situations, and act accordingly.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:55 No.13560196
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    At this point she more or less took the lead, although it could still be viewed as a partnership I suppose. She made clear to my guy what was going down, and what needed to be done. By then she was big enough that we cold make an offensive, and with the party army attacking, this was the chance.

    So the first victim was the guard who came to retrieve my guy. My guy struggled against her prompting her to enter the room, and once inside, my guy sort of bear-hug tackled her, while the ooze mage did the dirty work or ingesting the guard. All I had to do was just hold her down while it happened, but it wasn't a few seconds before she'd been suffocated, and the ooze mage could dissolve at her own pace.

    It was rather horrible, so my guy kept to himself/avoided watching. Before long though, about 5 to 10 minutes and only bones and clothes/armor were left. And the ooze mage was already a size larger from the guard than she had from all the rations I'd fed her.

    Suddenly it didn't seem such a stretch that after hundreds of years, she'd be large enough to totally fill several dungeons and cave systems, this being just a minor minor fraction of her total.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)22:59 No.13560267
    >Suddenly it didn't seem such a stretch that after hundreds of years, she'd be large enough to totally fill several dungeons and cave systems, this being just a minor minor fraction of her total.
    I was curious before, but now I have to know: what supplement is ooze mage from?
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:00 No.13560279
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    From there, my guy grabbed a sword and shield, and together we waited till others came to check on what was the holdup.

    From there, me and the mage did a rather nice job fighting our way out, and it was pretty cool too. We were back to back most of the time, fighting to subdue or disarm opponents till she could absorb them. Before long, she was getting to be enough that soon she'd be roughly the amount of a gelatinous cube. And my guy just kept getting better and better swords or armor.

    It was pretty handy if I do say so myself, and though not nearly as dear as the army's effect on the castle, we were still creating quite a stir and tearing things down from within. That was our perception at least.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:00 No.13560284
    >large enough to totally fill several dungeons and cave systems

    I always wondered what happened to slimes that happened to live long enough.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:02 No.13560313

    The ooze mage sounds like a good friend and ally, if not a bit dangerous.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:03 No.13560315
    Hopefully it was just evil knights you were fighting
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:08 No.13560399
    I doubt it. Though if we're lucky the former squire get's killed.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:09 No.13560402
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    No idea, it's not my character. The DM, and her player have the sheets and info involved.

    To what I was saying on that matter, since she became a full-fledged ooze mage, one of the things she did over the years as a profession/to keep busy was cleaning the dungeons, crypts, castles, caves, etc... of powerful and wealthy individuals. She got a cut of the treasure or wealth of the employer, and she was allowed to keep (or eat) whatever she came across while cleaning.

    With that she got quite wealthy, and there are at least a few dungeons now that belong to her, that have sizable treasure fortunes. That is, if anyone is capable of actually getting through the dungeons. Over the years, since she never really stopped growing, and did so more and more with the more she ate, most of the dungeons she has, rather than treasure, are for storing her body. They're quite literally, completely filled with excess ooze that is her body, that she doesn't need, so she just stores it in those places.

    All in all, a rather creepy but interesting character, despite any misgivings people may have about her/that type of character.


    The Saint was a DMPC/NPC, a mage assisting our party. When the Paladin's player approached the DM about her new character and what she wanted to play, the DM came up with the Order, using his Saint NPC and the Cleric PC to create a history for it, and just how it came to be and why it was like it was.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:13 No.13560484
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    >We were back to back most of the time, fighting to subdue or disarm opponents till she could absorb them.
    I don't think WotC had that in mind when they developed that subdual damage and disarming rules.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:14 No.13560498
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    Yes, she's a good friend and very close with my guy given recent events, she's never failed him and been there for him. Some people suggested going with her instead of the Paladin, which actually wouldn't be such a stretch.


    Well I always figured they split when they got big enough. But because it's all technically part of her body, despite being able to separate from it, the great mass of her that she doesn't need just sits there filling up caverns and dungeons, until she responds to it or needs it.

    With the recent turn of events she's summoned the rest of her body. It's just taken a looong time to all get here, too late for the battle. Though she herself is a help enough.


    No, the evil knights were concentrated at the bottom of the castle/grounds surrounding, where fighting was to be thickest.

    My guy and the ooze mage were running into guards and soldiers stationed in the upper levels of the castle. Great numbers though, and they weren't pushovers, so it wasn't like it was a cakewalk.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:15 No.13560510
    What happened to trying to bring the remaining good knights over to your side?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:16 No.13560530
    So basically you were killing the few remaining good people?
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:23 No.13560623
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    We did, just wait.


    So eventually me and the mage were able to start making our way down into the castle after clearing the roof and battlements on top (we'd been imprisoned in a tower). Her intent was to find the First One, naturally. After my guy told her what happened (she hadn't been present during the trek below), she was half surprised that her friend the Cleric was still alive, but half determined to remove the threat that she was. It would be hard, but needed to be done. My guy was just going along with her plans.

    When we got a ways down though, we saw that our little victory at freeing ourselves wasn't much to compare to the beating the party was taking from the trained, organized soldiers of the Order, including the few demonspawn they had there.

    Despite the great strength of the army, the Order was fighting in their HQ on their home turf, and the fighting was close and thick. Perfect in a place they knew, and specifically for the knights and demonspawn who could steamroll over scores of troops.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:24 No.13560632
    >So basically you were killing the few remaining good people?
    These are the people who were going to use his character as something of a sacrifice to a demon.
    There is no reason to cry over their deaths, regardless of what their character sheets say.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:31 No.13560741
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    Just because they're not evil knights, doesn't mean they were willing to help us or switch sides. These were all soldiers and residents of the citadel, so the chances of them turning to help us were next to none. But those from other lands, and associated with the religious aspects, the good and just nature of the Order (mages, various knights and other fighters, priests and such) were not where we were. Me and the mage were just at the top fighting grunts.

    At least that's how I saw it.


    It was good timing that we entered the fray when we did, still though it didn't much affect the outcome. It turned the tide in our favor, but not for long, and it was looking that the party would have to retreat while me and the mage would have to hold up in the tower or the fort or something.

    At around that time though, we received a godsend in the form of reinforcements. Most everyone was tied up, but these newcomers arrived from outside the battle to assist us, fresh trained and ready.

    None other than the Rogue and his loyalists and assembled peoples/new army of his country (after being kicked out by the party, he went back to his country, and with the money got by selling my guy to the enemy, was able to fund and get himself back into power). It seemed though it had a good effect on him because he was here to help us out, and his country was willing to help, having accepted him back now that he was reformed more or less.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:37 No.13560839
    Half expected him to side with the order in exchange for the return of his old throne
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:42 No.13560884
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    With the help of the Rogue, the party is able to consolidate, and mount an offensive through the Order lines, this time with great success. Even over the demonspawn and while they weren't able to really kill many of them, they could at least subdue them by dog piling on.

    And so while me and the mage had been forced back to the castle, eventually our two groups met up, and the rest of the Order forces either were forced to surrender or were routed, either fleeing the citadel or into the fort below.

    All in all though, despite heavy losses on both sides, it was a victory for us. We stood triumphant, things were looking good as we were reunited, and the Order's HQ and founding location had been taken over.

    And at the end of the day when the fighting was more or less being finished and the coast looked clear, the mage gave my guy a hug and a kiss, telling him how great they had done and how proud she was.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:47 No.13560950
    >And at the end of the day when the fighting was more or less being finished and the coast looked clear, the mage gave my guy a hug and a kiss, telling him how great they had done and how proud she was.
    You should make her your new wife.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:47 No.13560951
    Hooray for happy endings.
    Now to wait for the cliff hanger thing that will screw everything up!
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:48 No.13560966
    >You should make her your new wife.
    or, better yet, have her consume your old wife and absorb her marriage
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:49 No.13560978
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    A kiss which, by the way, burned his cheek a little.


    So things were still hectic, but more or less under control. True, we had missed a good number of the Order who had fled from the scene, but mere soldiers the lot of them, anyone important went to the fort below, but there was no other way out so it was only a matter of time, or they would starve. Also we had some captured demonspawn to poke and make fun of.

    Of note, the First One was nowhere to be found, so we assumed they took her with them when they went deeper into the fort.

    Still though, the day was won, and everything was right. The party had a reunion, even the Rogue who apologized to my guy. As well, separately the ooze mage and the old hero met once more, not having seen one another for over 200 years.

    And my guy's wife was there once more, to take care of him once more. She made careful not to hug him or anything of course, so as not to upset him, but she was as happy as she ever had been. Finally, at long last, she and I were free of the Order and their mess.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:50 No.13560995
    Do marriages even work that way?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:51 No.13561006
    You mean you don't keep what you kill?
    BRB Rescheduling wedding plans
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:56 No.13561062
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    Well theoretically it might. The mage doesn't like feeding on living, sentient creatures, because part of their mind/psyche is still preserved even after she eats them. One of the reasons why she's absentminded, because when she constitutes someone into her, she has to struggle to not have her mind mixed with theirs, or even have her mind overwritten or blocked out by them. Of course she takes precautions but if she's not careful it could possibly happen.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:58 No.13561099
    ... really? Wow.
    So, what's next for your rejoined paladin and emancipated fighter?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/11(Mon)23:59 No.13561111
    If she has so much excess ooze that she needs entire dungeouns to store it in, why not have the mage just partition off bits and pieces for her various absorbed personalities to make their own existance?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:02 No.13561151
    Couldnt she subdivide off parts of herself in a controlled environment, essentially exorcising herself of other minds?
    >> teka 01/18/11(Tue)00:03 No.13561163
    >The mage doesn't like feeding on living, sentient creatures, because part of their mind/psyche is still preserved even after she eats them.
    >One of the reasons why she's absentminded, because when she constitutes someone into her, she has to struggle to not have her mind mixed with theirs, or even have her mind overwritten or blocked out by them.

    just passing by and i saw this.

    hmm. Dunno too much about the context, but i will keep this little wrinkle in mind. a fun little flaw or feature perhaps.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:04 No.13561187
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    And they were all in love and lived happily ever after, the end.

    Or not, things never work out like they're supposed to.


    That night was a big celebration, and through and through it all things looked to be good. Of note, the Paladin got to take out her anger on the castle, the Rogue got to apologize personally to me, and various other people's my guy hadn't seen in a good while got to meet and greet, as well as my guy spending time with the ooze mage to thank her and talk about things (the only character currently he can actively talk with).

    And so late late everyone opted to turn in, most of the forces heading for the town to rest there, while the Rogue and his forces stayed with us in the citadel and kept watch if the Order forces came from the caves below.

    At least one was able to get past though.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:04 No.13561189
    In the Forgotten Realms Elminster mentions not for ANYONE to ever go to far North because when he was scouting the area to discover new monsters he was almost killed by a white ooze.
    A white ooze the size of a continent.
    To this day no one knows exactly how far the 'north' of Faerun expands, nor how much of it is actually the biggest (known) ooze in existence.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:10 No.13561257
    What about that fortress that's waaay up north that was the focus of the Year of Rogue Dragons series?
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:11 No.13561276
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    She could but she doesn't need to. Just keeping a steady mind as she has, albeit considerably addled, she's able to maintain control.

    Now if she suddenly absorbed several hundred people, or a number of powerful people/PCs she might be in trouble. However if she really was in danger she could probably just separate herself from the new mass.

    Probably just wait till it gets a singular mind of it's own (probably an amalgam of the minds combined), and she could overpower it herself.

    Just a guess though, not like we've tried feeding her PCs, mas numbers of people rapidly, or higher powers.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:12 No.13561281
    As I recall it's only about a few hundred miles from any significant civilization.
    Though it's kind of hard to tell how far north that is when the north is actually listed as endless.
    And while I'd love to have a discussion on how fucked FR geography is and of the crazy monsters there, let's try not to derail the thread any further than I accidentally did when responding to that earlier question.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:13 No.13561293
    ... And that one that got past?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:16 No.13561334
    Eh, just a suggestion that it might be good for her in the long run to separate out the personalties she's absorbed. Last thing you want is a stark raving mad thrree hundred ton pile of goo
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:20 No.13561382
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    In the night my guy is awoken by the Squire of all people. I figured she'd just kill him or something, but she drags him out of the tent beneath the moon, and hands him over to the First One, who amazingly enough doesn't kill or eat him, but takes him in her arms holding him close, trying to kiss him even.

    They'd done it, through chemicals or magic, they'd gotten her into an amorous state such that she accepted my guy and was willing to unite with him. Which after awhile she was wholly intent on doing, despite his crying and trying to get away.

    The Paladin was awoken in the struggle as the Squire dragged my guy out of the tent, but as she rushed out of the tent after them to kill the squire probably, she was ambushed by a small group of demonspawn. And so she was held on her knees not more than a few feet away, forced to watch.

    Really the Squire just sat there with the biggest grin on her face you ever did see, while the First One intently forced herself upon my guy, played over by the moon high in the sky.

    As I was soon to find out, it was all part of the plan, and boy had they one hell of a plan.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:21 No.13561401
    Just saying, your GM is a dick of massive proportions
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:23 No.13561430
    Your gm has a thing for jap porn, doesn't he?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:24 No.13561446
    This is a well-established fact.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:31 No.13561544
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    Now as a disclaimer, the GM more or less did a fade to black, and left the outcome of the scene up in the air. Something out of the ordinary when other times he/our group has no problem with having a scene played or described out.

    However, that said, what other ways can a scene like that go, other than the obvious? The First One is tricked into being in love, has ahold of my guy, while the wife is forced to watch it take place, and the Squire enjoys every minute of it. You decide how it went down.

    Regardless though, the reason for leaving the scene was to focus on the Rogue. He is alerted of what is transpiring, and gathering some of his forces, goes in person to resolve the situation and remove the last vestiges of the Order. This scene is done by the Rogues player and the DM, played out.

    Eventually he reaches upon our scene, and his soldiers subdue the Order forces (sans the First One), but assumedly not before it's too late because the Paladin is reduced to a defeated bawling wreck, and my guy is lost sanity and more or less back to his dead self again.

    But a small price to pay if these sick people are dealt with finally. The Squire most of all.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:36 No.13561604
    It's like I'm really reading the plot summary to a BAD END of an h-game.
    But continue.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:38 No.13561632
    yeah pretty much the same sentiments on this end
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:40 No.13561660
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    So the Order members are all more or less on their knees, ready to be killed even the Squire, and the Rogue picks the Paladin up and tells her it will be alright, he'll set everything right.

    With that, and her back turned, the head priestess grabs her from behind, forcing her into a catatonic state with magic. And then the Order forces are released and given back their weapons, and the Rogue and the Priestess start talking, while the Squire is just laughing to herself.

    Between talking about bits and pieces of plans and arrangements, the Rogue pays off the price of my guy (more as a formality than anything, but making him free nonetheless) and they resolve to head out, carrying off the Paladin and telling the demonspawn and mages to subdue and bring the First One. My guy/our couple of me and the paladin had done his/our duty to the Order.

    My guy is just left there, as they all leave. It wasn't until the next day that the Bard, was the first to find him, taking care of him as best she could.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:42 No.13561689
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    I MAD
    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros 01/18/11(Tue)00:43 No.13561709

    Son of a bitch!
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:43 No.13561724
    I have no words.
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    Oh man. Continue.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:48 No.13561786
    .... motherfucking called it
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:50 No.13561819
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    Essentially, after the group left, The Rogue summed up all his forces, while the Squire got the Order forces in the fort, and together they headed out, leaving the whole place behind going who knows where.

    Back to the forefront though, everyone was in a state of panic and trying to figure out what happened, while the Bard, Revolutionary, and ooze mage took care of my guy.

    The problem was that our forces were split. Half wanted to go after the Rogue and the Squire, while half wanted to stay and clean up/occupy the place to ensure their dominance over the order, while a half (shut up, I know) wanted to simply leave altogether, they'd gotten their victory and their spoils so they were happy to leave as it was.

    Things looked pretty shit and without hope, we wouldn't be able to take on the Rogue and the Squire now with them together and on the march to who knows where. Thankfully as a godsend, it was the Revolutionary with her mass charisma and influence that was able to draw everyone together, at least enough so that we could all pursue the Rogue and Squire, if only to find out where they were headed and maybe engage them before they got there.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:52 No.13561848
    >The Paladin was awoken in the struggle as the Squire dragged my guy out of the tent, but as she rushed out of the tent after them to kill the squire probably, she was ambushed by a small group of demonspawn. And so she was held on her knees not more than a few feet away, forced to watch.

    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:54 No.13561866
    It's time of the ooze mage to summon up all of her ooze and nuke the world.
    It's the only way to be sure.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:57 No.13561903
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    A few days later we found out that the Rogue had returned to his country, a conquering hero bringing back spoils of war, and also bringing reform and religion (the Order) into the country.

    Essentially he had struck up a deal, we're not sure when, that with their help he would be able to retake his country, and in turn would allow the Order to make itself the primary force for good and means of religion in the country, as well as having it's headquarters there.

    Essentially the Squire and the head priestess were tired of the normal ways of good that the leading figures of the order took, and wanted to start anew. Because the priestess had the First One and the demonspawn, that was all that mattered.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:58 No.13561917
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)00:58 No.13561927
    Fuck, you were just a catspaw to elimante the good members of the order
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:01 No.13561978
    Around 2 threads ago it occurred to me I should have stopped reading because of how dark and depressing your game is.
    Were it not for the fact I cannot unread what has been read I would wish I had made that decision, because this is starting to get almost sickening. But with how far we are into it, I feel I must see it to its end.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:04 No.13562022
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    I tend to agree with you. It's too late to stop now.
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    I'm pissed for you. Holy fuck, it almost seemed too good to be true, and it was. SO MUCH RAGE.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:08 No.13562079
    More than that. This was always going to be a huge part of the campaign. The DM was planning this from the get-go. Once the pieces were in place, the DM was probably just waiting for someone to take the bait and court the paladin.

    /tg/'s advice unwittingly threw OP's character into the role of Judas lamb.

    Hell, it might've even been originally planned for the rogue to take the fall! We might've just fucked over what little karma there was!
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:10 No.13562119
    Naw, I wouldn't give the GM that much credit. Originally this was just supposed to be a one off session
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:11 No.13562123
    I think we can all agree, the moral of the story is: True sexism in games, no matter in which direction it goes in, is destined to set the game down an immensely dark path.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:12 No.13562142
    True, but the pieces fit far too perfectly for this to be spur of the moment. Probably he started thinking it up when it became a regular game instead of a oneshot.

    This reeks of GM "Just as planned".
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:12 No.13562145
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    At this point our little mobile army was ready to split once more, and the Revolutionary couldn't stop it now. It came to a scene where the head leaders of the different factions in the army were all gathered in a room, arguing about this and that and threatening to disband with their forces from the group. Some still wanted to go after the Rogue, and some still wanted to split with their loot, but most didn't want to go any further because it would be declaring war on an actual country now, not just a single fortress in a isolated incident.

    The Revolutionary was trying her best to keep things together as was the Bard and her band, and a number of others, but just in kind they were opposed just as vehemently by the other side.

    Eventually, with the help of the ooze mage my guy stood up and addressed them all, in a miraculous temporary regain of sanity.

    He said that he had experience firsthand what the Order was and was capable of, and there was no place for it in the world. It needed to be removed, never again to spring up, and if they were to walk away or refuse to help then they supported it. We all had just supposedly knocked over their HQ, and already within a few days they were more or less in control of a country now, apparently unscathed by our efforts. It was only a matter of time before it went from country to continent to world. If nothing else, then we were obligated at least, to do away with the demonic being, the First One. As long as she was alive, then so was the Order.

    They had mixed feelings and opinions about the various points raised, but none of them could object to the part about the First One. Because none of them would be seen to be letting a demon exist freely, even if they didn't really care.

    And so, despite all it's shortcomings, our little army was sticking together for better or worse.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:14 No.13562187
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    Not all so bad, that bit with the cutebolds was nice.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:20 No.13562273
    ....that was surprsingly cognizant for a nearly insane man
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:21 No.13562293
    ...you realize that if you'd gone with my "have the ooze mage conceal herself in your vas deferens" plan from last thread, she'd now be inside the First One and able to turn the Rogue and Squire's plans to shit, right?

    By the by, is the ooze mage named Alexis Mercer? Or Alexandra? Maybe Dana, as an outside possibility?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:26 No.13562363
    The OP mentioned that he brought up the ideas, including that one, with his GM.
    Clearly that's why his GM said for him to go with feeding it his rations instead.
    While the story does reek of "just as planned" it also reeks of railroading as well.
    An insane character not able to take actions without GM approval, a paladin of an order defined by the GM, characters whose goals are solely allowed or made impossible based on how the GM wants them to be achieved.
    While one could say this is true of any game, as the GM is meant to simulate free will not actually allow it, in this case it comes off as excessive.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:29 No.13562409

    In this case it seems like characters properly RPing, within character even when it isn't in their advantage to be.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:30 No.13562419
    So you're now essentially on a full blown crusade.
    And the one person in your party with lots of experiance in that sort of this is...
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:30 No.13562429
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    Because as you'll see, he's no longer insane. At least not entirely.


    So with that we suited up and continued our trek. As well, as the coming war was to be understandably great, even more forces were sent for and help requested. Whereas before each "team" may have devoted some effort to the cause, now they were putting their all into it. The whole bard Guild, all the elves along with the old hero, etc... As well, we were able to establish contact with and gain assistance from branches of the Order than had survived the Squire's coup, portions of the Order that were still devoted to good and helping people, and were willing to fight to do away with the evil/dark side associated with the First One. They'd never agreed with it, and now they had the chance to get rid of it altogether.

    However in turn, we also learned that on top of all the demonspawn returning to the Rogue's country, a great many of the Order branches also threw in with their lot and were consolidating there. So on top of the Rogue and his country, as well as new allies (seeking the help of neighboring lands, as well as his drow relatives), they were getting help from what was left of the Order in many places. While we had faced about 900-1200 in the citadel, we could now expect to face many thousands.

    As for my guy, though the "union" with the First One had been taxing on his mind and body (nearly killed again), this time unlike any other the Paladin, his wife had been taken and was in trouble. Rather than succumb to his mental state or shy away, he took it upon himself to fight for her sake, hence why he was able to speak out for her and fighting the Rogue.

    He was still not in his right mind and messed up, but in this, he showed some signs of his old self, for the sake of his wife.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:34 No.13562485
    So OP is destined to either be dead by the end of this or a fate worse than death where he's forever tortured or broken because of his encounter (or his next encounter) with the first one.
    Calling it now.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:35 No.13562512
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    Maybe she could make her sterile, but the ooze mage could in no way harm or overpower the First One, not with a sizable amount of her, let alone the amount to be released during sex.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:36 No.13562518
    If justice does not prevail in this game, OP is required to stand up and shout "THIS HAND OF MINE BURNS WITH AN AWESOME POWER! ITS' BURNING GRIP TELLS ME TO DEFEAT YOU!"

    And then punch the DM and the rogue's PC in the dick.

    IF justice does not prevail.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:38 No.13562540
    Except you know that won't happen.
    While the OP was initially enraged in his first thread after /tg/ steered him down the wrong course initially, his posts now suggest a more complacent state.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:42 No.13562597
    In a prolonged conflict you're going to need to get people inside their cities and close to their strongholds.
    If the Ooze mage split off parts of her larger self they could be sent in as infiltrators.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:43 No.13562614
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    And so that is more or less where we are at, marching our way towards the Rogue and the Squire, and their new "utopia", both of our sides gaining strength along the way. Whatever happens, will determine the fate of many people and many lands, only time will tell in who's favor.

    Of note, the first parts of the ooze mage's body are starting to catch up with us. Each day she grows bigger and bigger, and seems to have no end. The earth itself must be sagging at the weight of her all. She still maintains about human size when spending time with and talking with us, but always looming overhead so to speak is the rest of her, and at night it looks like a steadily increasing mountain is following us.

    We need to hurry though, because of what we now know they intend to do with the Paladin.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:50 No.13562720
    Have you considered getting in touch with the spirits of your old characters in whatever afterlives they're currently residing in?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:52 No.13562750
    Do you guys have maps of the countries now being dragged into this whole mess?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:54 No.13562773
    Wait, what are they doing with the pally?
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)01:56 No.13562811
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    We now know, that as a stipulation of the Rogue, he wanted the Paladin sort of as a consolation prize. The Squire agreed, so long as he would let the First One breed with my guy, which he agreed. I guess she didn't know he couldn't care less what happened to my guy.

    Well they got the Paladin, but they've got something else in mind. As they intent to "start over" so to speak, and recreate the Order as they would have it, they wish to recreate their founding asset.

    We've learned that it is the Squire's intent to make the Paladin the next First One, probably the Second One to be more accurate, but they likely won't change the title. Through magic and likely a miracle as before, they intend to transfer the devil from the Cleric to the Paladin and make her what the Cleric currently is; a vessel for the evil, mindless and impossibly powerful, which they will use to mother new demonspawn.

    Naturally we're opposed to this, but for more reasons than one. If they are successful in making the Paladin the next First One, then we have no doubt that they won't hesitate to unleash her upon our forces. It wouldn't be difficult, they just let her go and she'd come looking for her husband, tearing anything in her way apart. Spelling doom for my guy (suffer the fate of the First Father) and everyone else, naturally we want to get there and stop this from happening.


    So you can see, the delicate situation the game is in right now. Despite everything, I feel kind of useless, because everyone's always busy and doing what they can to gain support and forces for the war. There's not much I can do, or more accurately, not anything that I'm aware of that I can do.

    If people could come up with something though, I'd greatly appreciate it. I want to play a part in all this as well.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:03 No.13562921
    Are you up to level with the rest of the characters of the party?
    Also, never underestimate the power of diplomacy and subterfuge!
    Also- stop being so dang passive!
    >> Cerebrate Anon 01/18/11(Tue)02:05 No.13562943
    Why do you need an army? Give it a few weeks, and you'll have a continent's worth of ooze mage to wash over the Rogue's lands like a horrible, dissolving plague.

    "My GODS, sir! Look at THAT!"
    "What are you talk aboooOOh, sweet gods! We're doomed!"
    >Ooze Mage washes up against the Capital City's walls like a gooey ocean
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:05 No.13562946
    The way the story is written it sounds like there are two routes for you.
    I shall preface this by saying both of them will end with your character gone.
    The first is figure out a way to strike directly where the paladin is, which will likely get there just before the ritual, interrupt it and inherit the devil yourself, become the bbeg.
    The second route, is you talk to the DM about what kind of forces are likely to prey upon those who are desperate for a solution and will go through any means to get the power they need, give up your soul for the power to decimate the order and save the paladin, and end the game with a heart-felt apology as you allow the creature to fully possess you in exchange for destroying the devil that has fueled the order for far too long.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:07 No.13562966
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    At this point we're not really leveling, as we're not getting into fights. Just marching, and gathering forces.

    As for what to do, I'm just not really sure. There's not really much my guy can do, he doesn't really have contacts, and the ooze mage is already with us. I just realized I can get the help of the head maid of our house, but other than that, there's not really anyone I can go to and say "hey, lend us a hand!", so past that I'm not sure where to look or who to look for.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:08 No.13562973
    If your guy is starting to slowly come out of the crazyness perhaps hoe could start to make use of some of the things he learned the first time he was locked away at the house: Organising small groups of mercenaries to get jobs done. Even if he only took care of the paperwork behind it that'd help push things forward.
    I know you guys want to rush in there right away but knowledge is power. You need to learn everything you can about the county you intend to invade and the surrounding nations. Terrain your guys could use to your advantage in battles, force deployment and composition, supply routes. A well placed small bands could cause huge problems in a few areas of the country requiring more troops be deployed there. The list goes on. Guerrilla warfare on a large scale to pave the way for bigger attacks or sieges by your main army.
    You need to turn the people of this nation against the rulers. Every person from that nation that you can recruit to your cause takes away from someone that can help thim.
    I'm very much reminded of Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:10 No.13563002
    Well, you need to find out more about this ritual that will transfer the deamon into your wife.
    When willl it take place? Does it have certain conditions How long will it take? Etc. etc.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:18 No.13563096
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    I rather like the outcome of my guy taking the evil instead/meeting his end. I can't imagine that the DM will construct a situation as perfect with precise timing like that, but I could be wrong and will keep a lookout for it.


    The Revolutionary will handle all that I imagine, it's what she specializes in. As a living, she goes around to countries in need, and understandably, starts revolutions.

    As for mercenaries, the Bard took care of calling upon all the mercenaries my guy knows or owe him, so there's where the problem was, that he can't really reach out to anyone left and ask for their assistance, without looking for strangers, but then that's not really in his current characterization to go out and meet new people and ask them to join up the war effort.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:23 No.13563155
    I'm sorry but your guy is so mentally battered I'm surprised he isn't convinced that he's the prince of The fey wilds.
    Right now, you are consumed by one single burning urge- SAVE
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:25 No.13563198
    Go to your former enemies then
    listen, remember how you gathered up all those people to help save your wife from the Orc hordes?
    Think the same as that, only on a much grander scale. Everyone counts. Even the gogdang maid
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:26 No.13563204
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    Well the initial problem is that now that the First One is pregnant, not only will she be opposed to anything of the sort, so will the evil within her.

    However, if they can get around that, it shouldn't be significantly difficult given the amount of mages they have and clerics and priests and stuff. The original Saint and Cleric were extremely powerful yes, but there were only two of them.


    No, but then that seems somewhat pointless because if any of the characters died, then it is what they left behind that we would want to be involved with, rather than their spirits.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:27 No.13563212

    First off, this fucking REEKS of railroading. Your character has, through great cunning and impossible odds, repeatedly pulled off impossible victories, and every time you immediately get fucked, usually literally, by pure GM fiat. If the Order pulls another impossible escape out of their collective asses, I'd honestly call bullshit.

    That said, you have a few options. I'd get in contact with rival factions in the city, see if you can't stir up some shit now that the Rogue is making a play for dictatorship. Also, I'd try to find out if there's an assassin's guild, and whether you could set them on the Squire or the Rogue, but your character strikes me as too noble for that.

    Worst-case scenario? Have the ooze mage ooze into the city, extending one street-wide pseudopod straight to their headquarters, and eat everything that isn't your wife or the First One. Or just eat the whole fucking city if you're not worried about collateral damage. I don't think even Elminster could pump out the kind of damage necessary to kill a MOUNTAIN OF OOZE.

    F5ing furiously, wishing it wasn't past midnight.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:28 No.13563229
    Punch the Rogue jerk wad extra hard for me, whatever you do!
    Hell, make him into the deamonhost, if possible.
    Also, remember, your greatest opponents are bound by a strict code of honor. That's the defining feature of chivalry. Exploit that! And don't give up hope on convincing the other chapters to come to your aid- maybe find some relic or holy artefact holy to them to convince them that you have god on your side.
    Also- how the hell is a squire now in charge of a martial order this size?
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:29 No.13563247
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    That's what I meant, all those guys are already called up.

    But now that you mention it, that's a good idea. The Paladin used to have a large number of former opponents and villains we faced, in love with her and following us around.

    I would imagine that they'd be interested in fighting for her, and with as many as there were and who they were, that'd actually be a force to be reckoned with.

    Thanks for that!
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:32 No.13563276

    Oh, and absolutely, positively, DO NOT NEGOTIATE. Even as a stalling tactic. These people have proven their untrustworthiness and ability to slip through the tiniest cracks. They. Must. DIE. In fact, if you could figure out a way to trap the souls of the leaders so they can't be raised, that would be ideal, but it's pretty imperative that you give them NO chance to suddenly have the fucking Tarrasque or some other bullshit tear through the wall and abduct you AGAIN.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:34 No.13563290
    What is it with you and kill maim burn anon? They're evil, but that doesn't mean OP has to become just as Evil as they are to fight them
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:35 No.13563300

    I thought the whole point of this was that you wanted to /keep/ your character?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:38 No.13563327
    This isn't evil, this is basic threat assessment. Mercy is a fine thing, but this is turning into Batman/Joker levels of retardation. You don't keep locking the killer up in the same asylum if he KEEPS GETTING FREE!
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    She supported the priestess and others wanting to reform the order. She got promoted, but because of that, she's more or less been able to take control of the military arm of the evil Order, and so no longer has need for or listens to the priestess and other intellectuals who started the coup. It's true, she's not associated with making new demonspawn, but she leads all the current ones, and also has done a good job of whipping up common Order knights and soldiers to be possibly a better force than the demonspawn.

    So while she was never really a strong fighter, she's turned out to be a good leader for them.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:38 No.13563333

    An Evil man will delay the moment of death, putting it off like a good cigar. A Good man will kill you without a word. And some people have the GM's favor and will always be able to come back and inevitably bite you in the ass, again and again and again, until you kill them in a way that ensures they stay dead.

    Many others have died in this war for lesser sins than these.
    >> Back to Basics, OP. No Man 01/18/11(Tue)02:40 No.13563347
    Specifically, the Thirty-Six Stratagems.

    Stratagems for Desperate Straits

    31. The Beauty Trap: Send your enemy beautiful women to cause discord within his camp. This strategy can work on three levels: First, the ruler becomes so enamored with the beauty that he neglects his duties and allows his vigilance to wane; second, other males at court will begin to display aggressive behavior that inflames minor differences hindering co-operation and destroying morale; third, other females at court, motivated by jealousy and envy, begin to plot intrigues, further exacerbating the situation.
    32. The Empty Fort Strategy: When the enemy is superior in numbers and your situation is such that you expect to be overrun at any moment, then drop all presence of military preparedness and act calmly so that the enemy will think you have hidden reserves and want to trap them into the fort.
    33. Let the Enemy's own spy sow discord in the Enemy camp: Undermine your enemy's intelligence-gathering abilities by using his own spies against him or planting your own agents among his.
    34. Injure yourself to gain the Enemy's trust: Pretending to be injured has two possible applications. In the first, the enemy is lulled into relaxing his guard since he no longer considers you to be an immediate threat. The second is a way of ingratiating yourself to your enemy by pretending the injury was caused by a mutual enemy.
    35. Chain Stratagems: In important matters, one should use several stratagems applied simultaneously after another as in a chain of stratagems. Keep different plans operating in an overall scheme; however, in this manner if any one strategy fails, then the chain breaks and the whole scheme fails.
    36. If all else fails, Retreat: The best battle is one fought with your side never having to mobilize, but if it becomes obvious that your current course of action will lead to defeat, then retreat and regroup.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:40 No.13563348
    But you guys are invoking massive collateral damage in these plans, often through very morally dubious magical means
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:43 No.13563371
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    This could turn out to be the end of the game though, to shadow the same way the first game ended.

    If not, I was opposed to my character being shunned from the limelight by his abusive wife who wanted him at home, that was bullshit. But an ending like the one posted is appropriately epic, I could settle with that.

    If it's not the end though, then I won't opt to have him die.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:43 No.13563374
    Hmm- you could, conceivably, make it seem like your army has fractured along the lines you described previously, making your enemies think that your rescue effort will be undersized and scored by confusion, while, in reality, the other half of your forces lie in careful wait for the moment to strike
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:43 No.13563378

    Actually, the primary plan I suggested (the pseudopod) only harms the Order and those too stupid to run away from a FUCKING GIANT GREEN OOZE. Eating the whole city is not a better plan, by and large, but I mentioned it for completeness' sake. Stirring up rebellion is and always has been legal in war.
    >> No Man 01/18/11(Tue)02:46 No.13563398
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    Actually, screw it.


    Or, if you're good at logistics...

    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:48 No.13563415
    A character who has just recently, due to the GM doing the nicest thing he has done this entire campaign, regained enough sanity for this one quest.
    Morals? Ethics? The concepts should be alien to him considering he was practically a vegetable for so long, and with the way this order has repeatedly fucked him over he should be convinced that they must be liquidated no matter the cost.
    And worst comes to worst, the Demon senses great hatred in his heart and welcomes him into the red lantern corps via possession.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:54 No.13563464
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    Also might as well note that this whole time, the ooze mage has been taking care of my guy and making sure he's ok and helping him interact with people as well as training. And despite everything and his crippling psyche, he's alright with her, almost normal.

    In the coming war, as each party member will be fighting with the group they gained, my guy will be working closely and fighting with the ooze mage.

    Not sure what all that is to entail or what it means, maybe he'll be surfing her like a tidal wave into the country, maybe she'll form a big goo mech suit for him to pilot. No idea.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:55 No.13563467
    Agh I don't know- I'll repeat my sugestion to find holy relics concerning the order to convince people that your side is the right now
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:56 No.13563474
    You know... I just realized that these threads piss me off as bad as when this shit happens to my own characters. These fuckers need to be killed to the last man and the fact that it's not happening right this instant very much results in me being mad.

    Also, go over their heads. If all the evil wing of the faith took the other side then I think it's about time someone stepped forward to be the good side again. If their divine spells worked then they had to have a deity running the show. It's time to appeal to them. The woman who stood up for what is right and just in this world is now in the hands of people who'd take that gods name and drag it through the mud for some demon from the past.

    Most gods aren't fond of that type of thing
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:57 No.13563481
    Goo mecha!
    Hee, I dunno- maybe she'll split up into ballations formed by the personalities she's absorbed
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)02:57 No.13563482
    You know... as a possible way to make up a serious gap in power level... you could have her eat you?

    If she can choose to fracture off the minds she swallowed then why not have a goo you? Nothing like a warrior that just grows back when you hack bits off
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)03:00 No.13563504

    That just seems the same as getting him killed to me. Plus what happens when he sees the wife again?

    "Hey hon, c'mere and lemme dissolve all your dead skin with a big hug."
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)03:01 No.13563515
    I never said it was a good idea. But as a last resort it's better than letting her end up as the Next One.
    >> No Man 01/18/11(Tue)03:04 No.13563536

    I still argue the best thing you can do is Bureaucracy the kingdom into the ground.

    Manipulate currency.
    Introduce the wonders of wheat blight, or a plague of rats.
    All the cart axles in the kingdom have suddenly gone missing.
    No grease for armor joints.
    If you have that kind of magic, Earthquake.
    Release rust monsters into the countryside.

    Do not poison the earth to win, but make it impossible for them to fight.

    Win without fighting.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)03:06 No.13563550
    I feel like this would ultimate turn into the Ion vs Superboy Prime fight (if you'll forgive my comic book reference).
    Everyone is like FUCK YEAH WE HAVE A SUPER WEAPON! Putting all of their support behind Ion (or the ooze version of OP's char in this case), and then when Superboy Prime (or the possessed paladin) enters the scene, utterly trashes the person who was embodying the hopes and dreams of the good guys, forcing one of the near-deific entities to sacrifice themselves to stop Prime.

    Which actually now that I think about it, is likely to happen if the OP gets any significant power up since the GM seems to like shitting on his character for no reason.

    If the GM gets over the fact he hates your character though, then I would look at the possibilities of demonic possession/ooze and becoming some kind of super being that while no match for the devil, or the first one, would be able to fight the paladin while she's freshly possessed and not entirely in control of her new powers.
    Though from what your GM has done this ends with the two of them going out in a blaze of eternally damning glory, destroying both demon/devils that possessed them for the climactic battle as well as the characters themselves. And wherever their souls would be, they would be at rest.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)03:13 No.13563616

    Not contributing much... but it seems like your campaign is about to close in this upcoming battle. The beginning of this situation had your character branded as property of the order, and that's been a point pretty much every time you've been kidnapped. Have the ooze mage burn that brand away and replace it with her handprint or something as an extra touch of characterization. Going into this battle your character should exemplify that he isn't an object, and he's not happy about being teated like one.

    That's what I'd do anyways, just get rid of the brand at the very least. Make sure they know he's stronger than their mind games and brutality.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)03:44 No.13563868
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    Yeah I figure I'll have her do that. It's high time he lost it, and he's no longer property so there's really no reason to bear it any longer, and I imagine she'll be happy to oblige.

    Plus the fact that she's actually able to do so, and take care of him properly.


    Well the only thing I might note is that the First One of today and the Cleric just after the binding over 260 years ago are not really different at all, in fact that's the point that she hasn't really changed. She hasn't acted differently, and her power hasn't changed.

    As the same with the Paladin if she were binded, there's not some great power for her body to have to get used to, it's just once her body is merged, that's pretty much it and she's kept that way. Except for the fact that, unlike the Cleric she won't have spell resistance because of the Cleric's body (holy association), but she'd be much much more physically/brutally stronger and violent given the Paladin's physical prowess.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)03:54 No.13563940

    Wait, so the body that is possessed affects how the demon "buffs" it? If that's true, then if you were to be possessed you'd be significantly weaker than the First One, right? And if I'm right thus far, would it be too much of a stretch to imagine that if they were to kill the First One, the demon would be destroyed in the process?

    So basically, if you let yourself get possessed you allow your stronger party a chance to finish the evil off once and for all. At the very least, the Order's entire religious base will be weakened since the "First One" would be a man. Just a thought.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)04:01 No.13563981
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    Yes that's right, it mostly works with the body it's given. In the Clerics case it gave her immense strength, agility, and endurance as it would with anyone, but because of her affiliation with her religion (being a cleric and all), it most significantly improved her resistance to magic and holy/unholy types of magic and spells. Hence why offensive magic has little to no effect on her.

    My guy, although a bit physically stronger than what the cleric was, has no comparable strengths and so would be significantly weaker than the First One. Also the whole deal about being a man and going against them. If the First One had been male, then the Order would be the other way around, with traditional chivalry.

    On the topic of killing the host=killing the demon, I'm not sure. I think it would just release the demon, but in a weakened state, such that it could be contained once more or destroyed/banished. But I don't think just killing the First One would get rid of it, or else the Saint would have done, or someone else.


    Anyway, good thread all around! I'm going to bed now, and I have class in the morning, but I get out early so I'll look to see if this is still up. Hopefully it will be, who knows, might even warrant another thread.

    Whatever happens.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)04:03 No.13564001

    Night OP, can you tell us when your next gaming session is gonna be? I want to see how this ends.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)04:14 No.13564070
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    Well I imagine there will be a game or two at least, that will still be about getting to the Rogue's country and arming up forces, as well as one actually going through his country.

    THEN it will probably be at his Capitol, where the big showdown will take place.

    It does give them allot of time to build strength and prepare the ritual, but then we'll be gaining strength too, and the First One won't exactly be cooperative with them. Hell, if she feels they turn against her, she might just up and leave as she has done before.

    Might even come looking for my guy, given that he's the father of her next child. I'd laugh so much if their grand plan ended up backfiring and joining the other side to attack them.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)04:15 No.13564079

    Last post for reals btw, goodnight all~
    >> Boots 01/18/11(Tue)05:03 No.13564408
    This archived yet?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)08:24 No.13565656

    Yeah, it's up there.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)08:55 No.13565847
    Oh goddamn I want a happy ending for OP and the Paladin.

    Her's and His insignia, branded on his chest.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)09:04 No.13565906
    Man, these are some nice pictures.
    So what's with all the text in the thread?
    >> Ghouls and zombies? Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)09:10 No.13565959
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    May be this isn't pure /tg/ is more like a random curiosity but I think is the best place to ask.

    Which are the differences between zombies and ghouls?

    I looked on wikipedia but they look more or less the same thing to me.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)11:46 No.13567094

    Ghouls are intelligent
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)11:50 No.13567125
    Like, the D&D difference?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)12:07 No.13567235
    I thought of suggesting this earlier but figured it would end up being considered fetish fuel. Glad I was wrong.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)12:26 No.13567368
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    I'm back from classes, looks like the thread still has a little to go before killing itself.

    Should I fill it up with something, or is it good as it is?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)12:47 No.13567537
    Where did you get all of your pics?
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)12:49 No.13567561
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    All from here, /tg/.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)14:06 No.13568218
    Have you considered driving a wedge between the militant (lead by the squire) and clerical (lead by the cleric) arms of the evil order? It sounds like there could be contention between them, and possible the Rogue as well
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)18:21 No.13571097
    Hey OP, I just thought of something: you and the paladin got married because the party convinced her she got wasted and slept with you right? IIRC, I think that was one of the things we suggested to you back in the very first thread for how to deal with the rogue, only you and him were switched.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)18:30 No.13571223
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    Yeah, I think it was too.

    Guess that didn't work out lol.


    Between the Squire and the priestess? The thing is the squire is already phasing the priestess out, and planning to do away with her altogether once the transfer ritual is complete. After that point, she'll have the Paladin as the new First One, and won't have any need for the clerical side.

    Also I imagine she would use the Paladin as overkill for any situation, whereas normally, the Order never used the First One for fighting or killing. Assuming the Squire and Rogue get their way, I pity anyone they attempt to breed the Paladin with.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)18:31 No.13571230

    Thas me btw
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)19:42 No.13572256
    Alright OP, so just to review the rogue has:
    -Extorted and exploited a fellow party member
    -Pull the fake rape card to spite you
    -Sold out a comrade for money
    -Used said money to take over a country (where it is implied he rules as a tyrant)
    -Is working with what is effectively a cult of demon worshipers
    -Sold out a comrade AGAIN
    -Apparently plans to use said cult and it's half-demon soldiers to take over the world

    How the fuck did this guy not set off the paladin's detect evil?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)19:50 No.13572367
    Well, after having caught up with what's happening, i can definitely say the next couple of sessions should be interesting.

    However, when it comes to the whole "leave the paladin for the ooze mage," that just doesn't seem right to me. While yes, Elizabeth did start everything down the whole shitty path, she has shown that she would stick her neck out for you. Maybe I'm just one of those hopeless romantics, but it just strikes me as wrong to go through all this trouble just to up and leave her.

    Seriously, there must be some love still left, otherwise your character wouldn't have gone adventuring with the same group, knowing she was still there.

    ...Though, if there is a mutual attraction with the ooze mage, maybe there could be something involving the three of them...
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)20:36 No.13573038
    We need a drawfag on this. NOW.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:13 No.13573554
    It's not if it'd be wrong or not, it's a matter of trust.

    Starting out, He and the paladin had one of the closest relationships you could. The were close friends, comrades in arms, and lovers. They and each other back in pretty much every way you could. There was a great deal of mutual trust. But following their marriage she started the habit of trying to brutally beat character change into him and imprison him inside her house. Later when he tried to come riding in to her rescue, she called in outside help which resulting in his brutal torture and subsequent rape (by her). Both of these were a result of him trying to help someone. The first time he was trying to keep the dick rogue from taking advantage of her character, and the second time when he tried to resume his previous role to pull the party's collective bacon out of the fire.

    Look at what he has been through, he is fully within his rights to declare outright that helping people is just asking for trouble that he might not be able to survive, physically or mentally. On top of this, trusting people is likely a bad thing too, because trust and friendship and attracting in no assurance that the trusted person will have your back. The person that he trusted more than any other stood by while he was beaten, mentally broken, and branded. Admittedly she didn't like it, but she still stood by and let it happen, which boils down to implied approval, and is SHE could do it, what could someone else do?

    This is not a person who is likely to want to form any new relationships with anyone EVER, under any circumstances.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:15 No.13573570
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    What fake-rape are you referring?

    Also he didn't set it off because he's a PC? I don't know!


    They schedule visiting times. The Paldin gets him on weekdays, the ooze mage gets him weekends and holidays. Or the Paladin marries the ooze mage, and they're both my guy's legal caretakers. Ooze-covered threesome. Eesh, that mental image is not favorable.

    As for the whole leaving her for the ooze mage, it was never something I was planning on doing, but just making clear that it is a possibility.

    We're both psychologically the same aptitude, we work well as a team, share similar interests, and care about one another at least in terms of wellbeing. Plus the ooze mage said she hasn't felt the way she does about my guy with anyone in a long, long time. Not sure what that means.

    I'm not saying I'm going to laugh and ride the ooze mage off into the sunset leaving the Paladin in the dust, all I'm saying it it wouldn't be the worst relationship/match-up.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:30 No.13573773
    >I'm not saying I'm going to laugh and ride the ooze mage off into the sunset leaving the Paladin in the dust,
    Well, maybe you should.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:32 No.13573803
    >I'm not saying I'm going to laugh and ride the ooze mage off into the sunset leaving the Paladin in the dust
    Question, why not?

    Even the most codependant idiot masochistic moron has a breaking point, and your character passed it a long time ago.

    I'd seriously consider just giving the finger to everyone else and dropping the paladin like the bad habit she is.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:34 No.13573831
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    Yes, but I don't want to get accidentally dissolved in the process.

    She's shown to be capable of controlling herself, such as when holding or carrying my guy, but then again she's not the most thoughtful of persons.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:36 No.13573855
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    Well then maybe I should consider it. I might mess up the dynamic of the party game though, when being in a group which contains a former wife, as well as being in a relationship with the third or fourth most powerful being in living memory.
    >> CĂș AirĂșath Siblaid !!9x1vEuGv9ER 01/18/11(Tue)21:37 No.13573865
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    >Gender reversed Guts.

    Your Paladin, good, sir.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:40 No.13573907
    So? Fuck the party dynamic, the character wouldn't care about that. All he would care about is the fact that she has betrayed, humiliated, and forsaken him time and again.

    Honestly, I'm wondering why he hasn't snapped and murdered her in her sleep.
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    >dropping the paladin like [a] bad habit
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:43 No.13573945

    Maybe because he loves her or something I don't know
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:44 No.13573957
    >Well then maybe I should consider it. I might mess up the dynamic of the party game though,
    This isn't so important if the campaign is approaching it's conclusion.

    Besides, the rogue has already fucked with the party dynamic more then your character ever will. You wouldn't have thrown the first stone.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:46 No.13573970
    Abused Wife/Stockholm Syndrome only goes so far to explain things like this. Love doesn't just exist, it needs reciprocation, trust, and loyalty. At BEST there is reciprocation, but even that is questionable with the amount of hell his character has been put through with her just shrugging and saying "Shit happens, honey."
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:49 No.13574015

    She's not uncaring towards his plight. She didn't sit there and have a laugh with the squire when the First One forced herself upon him, she didn't watch in mirth as he was tortured. She's shown to fight for him and risk her life for his sake.

    So it's not just a guise of uncaring dismissal. They're just an unlucky couple that bad things happen to.
    >> Titanium Man 01/18/11(Tue)21:53 No.13574048
    The paladin doesn't deserve her husband back after this. She doesn't get a reward.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:54 No.13574059
    No, it's one guy who bad shit happens to and whose supposed protector stands by and says "Sorry, can't fight to save you this time because [insert reason]!"

    Once is acceptable if afterward she repents and is obviously distraught by her lack of action. Twice? Three times? This is obviously someone who values other things far more than her spouse. Multiple critical betrayals like that leave hideous mental scars and the mere fact that he still cares for her at all rather than hates her with every fiber of his being already strains credibility.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:57 No.13574092
    >Once is acceptable if afterward she repents and is obviously distraught by her lack of action. Twice? Three times?
    I only remember the paladin refusing to take action once, and being quite affected by it.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)21:58 No.13574093
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    Why not, she's a good person and deserves good things right?


    I don't think anyone could really defend anyone against what the party is up against, betrayals and demons and cults.

    Just because she got tricked by the Rogue (everyone did, so it's not an oddity), I don't think all the blame falls on her. Also bad things have happened to her too, on the record.

    But we'll see what happens when the time comes. I believe that these next few games will be wrapping things up for the game.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:00 No.13574115
    I was referring to the number of times that she has directly screwed the character over, not just the lack of action.

    Really, that paladin doesn't deserve happiness with the way she acts. If I was playing the male character I would ask the DM to make me a BBEG via behelit or something and roll a new character.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:02 No.13574132
    >Why not, she's a good person and deserves good things right?
    No, she's really not. The whole point of paladinhood is to fight for what you love and believe in or die in defense of it. She's still alive, so she clearly fucked up somewhere along the line.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:02 No.13574144
    >I was referring to the number of times that she has directly screwed the character over, not just the lack of action.
    I don't remember this ever happening.
    >> Titanium Man 01/18/11(Tue)22:03 No.13574156

    She needs to learn a lesson. She needs a constant reminder why she should think for herself and where her blind obedience led her.

    One time you imagined Martin would say, "She said she was sorry. Isn't that enough?" I'm the guy who says it's not.

    I...I so mad.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:05 No.13574178
    >Abused Wife/Stockholm Syndrome

    I think the character and player both have this.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:05 No.13574184
    There comes a point when saying "whoops, sorry about not acting to prevent your violent rape and branding honey" doesn't cut it.

    Generally this point is somewhere around the time you have to make excuses for not acting to save your lover from torture, rape, and branding.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:07 No.13574197
    Yes, and the rest of my comment says that even WITH that there are breaking points. You can only do so many horrific things to people before they just snap and act out against you despite everything.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:07 No.13574203
    Man, you get props. That's the second Myth line I've seen you drop in this thread.

    She also stood by while you had that brand put into your chest and thought everything would go back to being nice immediately afterwards.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:11 No.13574258
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    I think the constant reminder is my character. The person she loves, forever ruined by her mistakes. The inherent problem being that the more she tries to take care of him and protect him and make amends, the more it seems to harm him as evidenced by his kidnapping, imprisonment, and breeding with a demon.


    Yes but in that instance acting out would have resulted in both their deaths.

    Since, it's been fairly straightforward in her protecting him. No thanks to the Rogue.


    Well there was the initial scenario of his breaking down by the demonspawn inquisitors, but since then, besides kidnappings (which she couldn't exactly prevent), she's been fairly committed to keeping him safe and tending to him.

    While I agree that she hasn't done him well, I'm not sure what is meant when others have said she's continually fucked him over or allowed bad things to happen. Then again, I'm rather naive.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:12 No.13574263
    "Unrealistic Doormat: A study in unrealistic servitude for the sake of RP."

    This is the title you should give these threads. Why is this guy even around? He should long ago have just packed up and shipped out, maybe taking the ooze mage with him.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:12 No.13574266
    >"She said she was sorry. Isn't that enough?"

    Is that brand still in my chest? Am I no long so traumatized that I spend the night sobbing the corner whenever you try to crawl into bed with me?

    Then no, it's not.

    Is it ok the General Butt Naked sacrifice and ate all those kids prior to committing minor genocide just because now he's a priest who has found Jesus and doesn't eat kids anymore?
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:13 No.13574284
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    Myth is bomb-ass digity.


    Anything I should do to while the time till thread death?

    I could tell what the Order used the First One for in the past other times, or something else in the game?
    >> Titanium Man 01/18/11(Tue)22:15 No.13574306

    Times like these, I think going Kefka would've made more sense. And more gleefully destructive.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:17 No.13574326
    >Then again, I'm rather naive.
    I'm not entirely sure that covers it. You are not only naive, you also have a completely skewed perspective on reality. "Undying love" doesn't make up for standing by watching as said loved one is tortured and used.

    Your outlook can only be viewed as being a young person who has had no real experience in the area of romance and betrayal. Even a minor betrayal can end a relationship. Multiple major life-changing ones? It's ludicrous that he can look at her without clenching up in rage and disgust.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:18 No.13574333
    The point at which the demonspawn inquisitors showed up and she let them do their work without any significant protest was the point at which she reached maximum possible betrayal of your characters. There was literally nothing else that she could do to further betray your trust.

    Except for raping you, which she immediately did when requested. After that there literally no further way she could betray you more.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:21 No.13574376
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    >Your outlook can only be viewed as being a young person who has had no real experience in the area of romance and betrayal.

    Yeah, pretty much.


    Well and after that she did it again and again some more times because she thought it would help.

    I think it's established she's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:24 No.13574428
    I don't think he's capable of rage right now. There's too much gut-churning fear in his brain right now.

    I do get the whole leaving thing though. With the ooze mage being the one person that he might trust, walking out into the wild and building a bunker in the bottom of one of her mass-storage dungeons might be the most sensible thing he could do. Just hide away from the world with several hundred tons of his best friend blocking all the exists. I'd like to see anyone try to kidnap you through THAT.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:25 No.13574434
    Think of it like this:

    You are a paladin. You beat your wife, sacrifice her freedom for your code, betray her trust, side with others against her at almost every opportunity, make her a slave, let her get raped and impregnated by demons, have her branded, and not only trust other women in the party more than her but act against your own wife on their say-so, and then go ahead and rape her yourself afterward for good measure "because while she might not want it now, it's for the best".

    Tell me, what does this sound like to you other than fetish fuel in an eroRP?
    >> tha/tg/uy 01/18/11(Tue)22:25 No.13574435
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    One has to keep in mind that by saying this we are operating under the assumption that she was fully aware of the Order's malefic origins; and her change in behavior, or in my mind, face heel turn, in perspective about the Order towards the end is not something that should be discarded either.

    While I don't think that's enough to have her character want to stay with her, I do think that the memory of the person his wife was before she joined the Order is sufficient motivation to try and save her from a similar fate at the hands of her enemies.

    Plus, I want to see the Squire and the Rouge BURN.
    >> Titanium Man 01/18/11(Tue)22:26 No.13574452

    IXA is the only good paladin worth having in this thread!
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:27 No.13574459
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    Yeah, it's not like she's got anywhere better to be. Plus that's how she's kept her treasure safe.

    Or he could help out with her cleaning business, who knows. Assistant maybe.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:29 No.13574474
    >Yes, but I don't want to get accidentally dissolved in the process.
    Rings of acid resistance work on a damage-per-round basis. Get one, and as long as it can soak the amount of damage that you'd get from being immersed in her you can swim off inside her. An item to let you not need to breathe may help as well. Given the level you guys are operating at neither should be that difficult to acquire.

    >I think it's established she's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
    This should not give her even the tiniest hint of a pass. Manslaughter is a crime for a reason. Accidentally hugely exacerbating mental trauma still makes things worse.

    I can understand wanting to go save her, out of some vestigial, barely-comprehended demand to do so that still lurks deep within the bowels of your character's shattered mind. After all, that's been his impulse from the beginning.

    But if the very sight of her doesn't make you flinch, your character is a goddamn saint. And if he is a goddamn saint, why haven't you abused the Exalted feats to solve all your problems yet?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:29 No.13574475

    That's a really layered on way of describing it.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:29 No.13574476
    >I think it's established she's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
    How does this excuse it? A good percentage of murderers have below average intelligence. Should we just, you know, let them off? "Oh well, he didn't know any better so it's alright!"

    Seriously, fuck that bitch. The only way this story could end 'well' is if at the end she is left a mentally wrecked broken shell of a women at the hands of her once-lover as he rides off into the sunset with his new ooze waifu.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:30 No.13574490
    That's actually EXACTLY what happened, just with a man as the paladin and a woman as the one getting fucked over.

    Suddenly it seems horrific when put into perspective like that, yes?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:30 No.13574493
    >I could tell what the Order used the First One for in the past other times, or something else in the game?
    They've used her for stuff other than breeding supernaturally empowered stormtroopers. Anything else you could tell us about the setting would be nice too.

    >High STR, low INT+WIS. Women, amirite?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:35 No.13574539
    She probably has enough control over her own dimensions to make a safe air pocket somewhere inside her volume.

    This is something that has made me solidly uneasy for the last several threads.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:36 No.13574544
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    The problem doesn't lie with the ooze mage's body, theoretically a ring like that should not be necessary. My guy could hug her, swim in her, eat her even, and as long as she paid half a mind it wouldn't cause him any harm.

    The problem is if she absentmindedly causes him harm because of her addled mind. It's not likely, but possible.

    As for the other note, my character does flinch when he sees her. He can't stand being around her because he doesn't feel comfortable and doesn't trust her. But that doesn't mean he hates her, and they're still married.


    It isn't always humans they bred her with, and in two instances it was with non-member individuals, one of which was against the rules.

    Keep in mind she's been around a long time, so they'd had opportunities to experiment with her and see what kind of combination they can make with her.

    Thank the Saint for that one.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:39 No.13574567
    Best end would be killing his "wife and protector" personally then fucking off to some dungeon with the ooze mage.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:39 No.13574573
    >He can't stand being around her because he doesn't feel comfortable and doesn't trust her. But that doesn't mean he hates her, and they're still married.
    I consider divorce largely a formality following significant spousal abuse. You haven't been married to that bitch for a LONG time now.
    >> Titanium Man 01/18/11(Tue)22:41 No.13574587
    In conclusion, OP, your story angered me.

    It is a story that deserves a different ending, which I will provide.

    All in due time.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:42 No.13574600
    >But that doesn't mean he hates her
    Protip, since you are self-admittedly an idiotic naive kid. It should, in fact, mean that he hates her. There is almost no other way to describe what should be going through his mind after all this torture and abuse. I've mostly not participated in these threads because it was all hilariously unrealistic anyway, but this is just over even that line straight into pure couldn't-even-exist-in-theory shit.

    >and they're still married
    Why even say that? Maybe *technically* they are, but after she has spit on everything that makes marriage sacred then there is no reason to consider them as such any longer.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:44 No.13574618
    Death via absent minded friend should be a welcome blissful relief after all the shit he has gone through. Why hasn't he killed his "wife" and himself in a murder-suicide yet, other than plot of course?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:45 No.13574620

    Hey guess what? It's just a game.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:47 No.13574651
    It's closer to fapfiction at this point with all the rape and dom/sub beatings.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:49 No.13574685

    I count two, and the beatings were parody.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:52 No.13574716
    At this point, it pretty much either has to be severe hate or love. He could hate her, but somewhat blind misguided love is also a possibility. His case could be something like "I've been her friend for a long time and I love her and then every time I get near her suddenly I smell barbecue and then I wake up in the corner crying." Rationally he shouldn't trust her nor does he have any reason to trust her, but it's really unclear just how much of his logical brain is left. Blind emotional stimulus response likely makes up most of his remaining persona.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)22:56 No.13574766
    I keep coming back to the question "Why is the Rogue such a complete and total asshole?" He could be RPing a Chaotic Dick, but one other reasonable answer that's occurred to me is that is all of this dickery is a passive aggressive push back against playing in a continual "absolute-femdom" campaign.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:00 No.13574804
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    I think it's because he's a drow, aren't they all like that?


    I'll take that second part for 500.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:01 No.13574815
    If there is no rational brain left why isn't this character a NPC?
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    I'd play an absolute femdom campaign.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:06 No.13574864
    Guys, while objectively there's no justification for him to remain with the wife, do remember the human mind is capable of astonishing levels of self delusion. Plenty of abused spouses stay with and support their abusive spouses because, "He/she really loves me." "I deserved it..." and/or "He/she has changed this time!"
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:07 No.13574877
    Yes, and while this would have been an acceptable excuse for a long time the sheer amount of abuse and mental torture/trauma has reached levels that not even stockholm syndrome can cope with.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:08 No.13574888
    How the hell is that crossbow bolt staying nocked?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:08 No.13574890
    >Yes, and while this would have been an acceptable excuse for a long time the sheer amount of abuse and mental torture/trauma has reached levels that not even stockholm syndrome can cope with.
    Not true in the slightest. You overestimate human logic.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:10 No.13574909
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    I meant the second part about grasping for straws, in this case reasons for loving her.


    All those things are true. Probably.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:11 No.13574918
    This character's best friend is an ooze mage guys. Humans in this setting aren't necessarily the same as real humans.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:12 No.13574922
    Okay, here's this. The kind of dark ending that I would go for, because at this point any happy ending you get is going to be total shit anyway- either violate realism and thus immersion horribly, or just not be that good.

    You go to get her. Get all the way there, fighting through tons of armies and crap. Everyone else is occupied and only you make it to the site of the ritual for plot reasons.

    As the inquisitorial guards turn to attack you, you shake your head and tell them you're just going to watch. Then you do.

    When she has her body and sanity taken from her control while you stand by and do nothing and she knows it, you ask the ooze mage to dissolve you into nothing and use antimagic field (which I assume she can, as she is a mage). Her giant body becomes an antimagic zone, annihilating any magics that the clerics and mages were planning to use to control their new demonhost.

    Who is strong as all get-out and hates them all very, very much. There is a lot of death and the squire, rogue, and most of the Order end up dying between the army and their own out-of-control monster.

    Your soul moves on to an existence that can't possibly be worse than the one you left behind.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:12 No.13574923
    It's not a question of logic, it's a question of instinctual drive. Repeated horrific things happening like this with the paladin standing by and watching and letting them? The human brain kicks into primal mode and will start lashing out. It's one of the reasons prisons need to give prisoners goals and things to work for as well as other positive stimuli. It doesn't matter who the person is, nothing but horrific experiences will kick them into primal survival mode and they will lash out against everything and everyone, especially the one they perceive as the reason for their plight. This is basic psych, guys.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:14 No.13574938
    Best ending possible.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:15 No.13574939
    I support having the guy simply sit by and watch, laughing, as his paladin wife gets a taste of the shit she did to him. It is a fitting end.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:16 No.13574952
    You are the one grasping for straws, not your character. You just want them to be together no matter the horrors inflicted, for some reason. I would guess because you are personally invested in the character and are a hopeless romantic. Emphasis on the hopeless part.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:18 No.13574974
    Do storytimes usually become ad hominem arguments or is this an unusual case?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:19 No.13574983
    Don't hate, I just call 'em like I see 'em. This is a clear case of projection.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:20 No.13574997
    But by who?
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    I don't give a toss who he loves, I'd rather just play him like I intended. Everyone keeps slumping all this terribad misfortune on him though, and the DM asked me to run with it.

    For the record, the people in the group are loving the hell out of the way things are going. I'm just doing it to make things better for them.

    Personally I'd rather play Shadowrun.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:22 No.13575012
    The player of the male, at least. Not enough information on the other characters.

    It does rather sound like the rouge is trying to fuck up the campaign as hard as he can, though.
    >> Titanium Man 01/18/11(Tue)23:22 No.13575014
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    "Come on! Let's DESTROY EVERYTHING! Just you and me! Let's destroy it ALL!"

    Yeah, OP, you should've went the Kefka route.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:23 No.13575029

    Damn I'm not good with the names today.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:24 No.13575043
    Oh, hey! The thread updated. I wonder what people are say-

    >I think it's because he's a drow, aren't they all like that?

    >he's a drow

    >the rogue is a drow



    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:24 No.13575046
    Then maybe you should do the whole BIG DAMN HEROES rescue thing, get to the altar, and then let shit go down with a smile on your face. Afterward fuck off to some remote dungeon and live out the rest of your character's life with the ooze mage as his only companion.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:24 No.13575053
    That is ONE mode the brain can lapse into, the other is a very passive defense mode that tries anything it can to please the abuser in the hopes of ceasing any abuse. Repeated torture turns some men into shattered wrecks and others into killers biding their time for revenge.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:27 No.13575080
    >Then maybe you should do the whole BIG DAMN HEROES rescue thing, get to the altar, and then let shit go down with a smile on your face. Afterward fuck off to some remote dungeon and live out the rest of your character's life with the ooze mage as his only companion.

    Ohh, ohh! Idea! He could even do it because that's what he has come to understand love being. If you truly love someone the only way you can show it is by standing off and letting things happen to them. It's for the best, in the end. That's what the paladin has taught him. He can even do a BBEG monologue about it as the ritual goes down.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:28 No.13575091
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    I figure that's why he's always intent on screwing the Paladin over, and also why he's not opposed to let a bunch of evil women into his country.

    Though now it's more like, he and the Squire are partners in crime plotting to RUUUUULLLEEEE THE WOOOOOORLD or something.

    Now they sit atop a throne of broken dreams and love, constructed mostly from my guy and the paladin. Or something.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:29 No.13575101
    That is so awesome. Making of a big bad, right there.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:31 No.13575125
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    >> Titanium Man 01/18/11(Tue)23:35 No.13575176
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    Yep, everyone's fucked now.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:38 No.13575216
    That's perfect.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:41 No.13575238
    I'm still kind of partial to the idea of letting OP's main character burst and and get possessed instead of the Paladin. If the body of the host can affect the result, then the result will be significantly weaker. Then they kill the rest of the Order and allow the ooze mage to take OP's character and imprison him in her ooze until they can free him or find a way to banish the demon forever.

    He can even strike a deal with the Paladin instead of trying to punish her. "If you forgive me, we'll call it even." And then have your party finish you off in an end campaign encounter with a demon powered version of your character. The paladin doesn't come out happy, but she isn't in an "eye for an eye" situation like the rest of the thread keeps saying.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:45 No.13575275
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    Hmmm, well the issue there is either kill him or find a way to fix him.

    And only one person is known to have possibly overcome the taint that is the evil contained in the Cleric, and it's not even clear if they're still alive. Unlikely given the amount of time to pass.

    So in that scenario, they'd probably just kill him. Or it could get crazy and the Paladin will try to defend him. Then she becomes the BBEG with her demon husband destroying the world, but defending him to the last.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:50 No.13575318
    >Why do you put these ideas in my head?

    I love you. I probably shouldn't, but I really do.

    I can't help it. Love is like that sometimes.

    Why do you look so sad? Don't cry. It's all going to be all right. I'll always love you, just like you've always loved me. No matter what happens. We'll always be there for each other.

    It'll all be alright. See, it's just a brand.

    I'll always be there afterward, for when you need me, because we're two of a kind. You always wanted to keep me safe, but I knew that you needed me as much as I needed you, because we are a team. And I'll always be there for you now, when you need me. We'll pick up the pieces together, no matter what breaks. Because I love you. See?

    Oops! Dropped a finger there, didn't we?

    Let me get that for you.
    >> Titanium Man 01/18/11(Tue)23:50 No.13575324

    Okay, you know what? Don't do this. The couple has gone through too much shit. Do this:

    -murder the rogue and squire
    -seal the First One or whatever
    -the paladin and Martin lead happy, seperated lives from now on

    Really, they've done enough. It's time for closure.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:52 No.13575336
    Once, I thought love was coming to adore everything about a person. To take joy in it, to support them in whatever they wanted with every ounce of effort you can muster, to stop at nothing to see them smile. To let their happiness become your happiness.

    But I was wrong. You showed me that. Every time I strayed from the path, you showed me I was wrong.

    Love is knowing what a person is supposed to be, and stopping at nothing to make them that person. Even if they hate it, even if they beg. No matter how much neither of you want it. To not let them stray, no matter how much it hurts.

    I'm sorry it took me so long to understand. But I get it now! I won't forget. You were always supposed to be the strongest, the one who lets nothing stop her.

    And I love you so much.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:56 No.13575383
    It a world of perfect karmic justice, the demon would end up in the squire somehow. I'm not sure how that would happen, but that's and end event I'd like to see.

    As for the rogue, I used to think that I wanted to see his head on a pike with his nuts stuffed in his mouth, but oddly enough now that I've found out he's a drow I can't seem to hate him in the same way.

    Also, if someone wants to archive this, they should probably do it before it dies all the way.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/11(Tue)23:59 No.13575412
    Before, I just thought that the Rogue ought to get a humiliating punishment for the whole shotgun marriage fiasco.

    Now he just needs to be killed on sight. Period.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/19/11(Wed)00:02 No.13575435
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    Get the demon binded to the Squire, then lock the Rogue in a room with her.

    If he's lucky, he'll remind her of someone she may have cared about. If he's not, well... I don't envy the person who has to clean up that room.

    They think they're so clever and superior in their planning and world bid, let them see how perfect they are together.
    >> Anonymous 01/19/11(Wed)00:08 No.13575503
    Yeah and The Princess Bride is a retarded movie cause there's no such thing as "true love". There's no fucking realism in it.
    >> Anonymous 01/19/11(Wed)00:08 No.13575507
    >> Anonymous 01/19/11(Wed)00:12 No.13575545
    I'm just waiting for the eventual confrontation between the paladin and your character. Things settle down and he regains enough of his sanity to... discuss... things with his wife.
    Honestly I'm one of the guys rooting for the good end but honestly the outcome I most likely see happening is Martin taking a break. i.e leaving the paladin for a couple of years to travel and find himself. You know what they say. Time heals all wounds.
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    That would be humorously appropriate. Since the initial first kidnapping, it's like they've been cursed to not be able to spend significant time together.

    The most recent time was what, less than a day, before the Squire loosed the first one on my guy and the Rogue kidnapped the wife. That was after over a month of separation.
    >> Anonymous 01/19/11(Wed)00:22 No.13575635

    >> Anonymous 01/19/11(Wed)00:27 No.13575694
    >and the paladin and martin lead a happy, married life together.
    Fixed that for you.
    >> Anonymous 01/19/11(Wed)00:37 No.13575811
    Just think of it. Screen fades to black. 4 years later...
    Elizabeth is sitting at her desk in her estate managing her affairs. She looks largely the same save for a faint crows feet around her eyes, side effects of her constant worry.
    Suddenly the door slams open. Elizabeth jumps to her feet, muscle memory is a hard thing to lose. Much to her surprise Martin is standing there and while she hasn't changed much he has. His visage is sterner, stronger. He radiates an air of stoicism, fucker is badass. Maybe even has a goatee and a cool facial scar.
    She takes a step forward, her hands unconsciously reaching towards him, then hesitates and steps back. After all they parted under less than friendly circumstances.
    "Hello Elizabeth."
    Hearing his voice for the first time in years is to much for her. She runs forward, tears in her eyes, and embraces him burying her head into his shoulder. She feels him stiffen and for a horrified moment she fears he's about to reject her and fall into the fetal position. Then he relaxes. He tentatively puts his arms around her and softly lowers his head into her golden hair.
    "I missed you too..." he murmurs.
    >> Anonymous 01/19/11(Wed)00:42 No.13575860
    >lowers his head into her golden hair

    Not only is she taller, physically she is also bigger than he is.

    Nice read though, it's a nice conclusion, if a good ending is desired.
    >> Anonymous 01/19/11(Wed)00:52 No.13575961
    Meh, I figured as much which is why she put her head on his shoulder instead of his chest. Figured that they were approximately the same height, and that she's a bit stockier than him
    >> Anonymous 01/19/11(Wed)00:53 No.13575968
    Well, the man's been out wrestling bears and punching through trees, maybe riding around the highways of our great land with a kamen rider themed biker gang, drinking his whiskey straight and talking about justice.
    Growing 6 - 10 inches isn't at all out of the question. Or maybe she's just a bit hunched over from too much desk work, and her spine's starting to go.
    >> Consider the Following Anonymous 01/19/11(Wed)01:00 No.13576038

    This made me lol
    >> Anonymous 01/19/11(Wed)01:38 No.13576450

    Him dying was kind of the point, I guess? A happy ending would be nice, but your character is levels behind and is going to be pretty useless in a big bad boss fight. The others in your army are reluctant to make this march and it was by luck that you convinced them. Make that ultimate sacrifice and leave behind a legacy.

    That, or I have a feeling your GM is gonna pull this "First One" demon thing out again in a subsequent campaign. And at that point it'd be a little stale unless he went a completely new direction with it. I just don't buy the whole "I'm completely insane and thereby evil" bit being interesting during a third campaign.

    But that's just like, my opinion man.

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