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    208 KB OP Chapter creation Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:44 No.13783333  
    The Emperor's Nightmare

    Newly minted chapter!
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:46 No.13783356
    Random generation tables sometimes screw you. This, time, however, they have gifted us something truly marvellous.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:48 No.13783376
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    Someone should put down a summary for when the other thread goes to the Emperor's side beyond the veil of Page 15.

    Also, current WIP color scheme.
    >> OP Chapter creation Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:48 No.13783377

    I have to admit...we got damn lucky.

    I freaking love this. If I ever get to actually play and not GM I'm using this chapter.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:50 No.13783388
    >The Emperor's Nightmare is lead by one known as the Second-In-Command. He is not called the Chapter Master because the original Chapter Master still keeps the title. He is kept preserved in a venerable dreadnought, alive but never awake. Yet even in his restful state the Nightmare carries him into battle, for his psychic dreams are terrifying to behold.

    I'd give him a name other than Second-In-Command. Maybe the Adjutant?
    >> OP Chapter creation Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:50 No.13783396
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    The Emperor's Nightmare

    >Founded in the 39th Millennium, on the Hive World of <REDACTED> as a successor Chapter to the vaunted Raven Guard. They have taken to parent chapter's talent for stealth in the duty to the Emperor. Oddly enough, their gene seed bears a strange Catapesean Node mutation that causes long bouts of sleeplessness alternating with long coma-like rests. This mutation would almost be unremarkable except for the chapter's close connection to the Scholastica Psykana. It is said that the Marines continue to fight on even in their long rests battling the machinations of the Warp alongside the Psykana. Some Marines even awaken to claim to have fought side by side with the Emperor himself. These claims have attracted the attention of certain members of the Inquisition, and not always for the better...

    Trying to work out the story of the badass Chapter Master. Figure he can be the chapter's first.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:51 No.13783404

    That works.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:52 No.13783411

    Some Chapters have unorthodox titles, this guy could be the Viceroy or something.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:53 No.13783425
    Or a Steward.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:53 No.13783427
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    >Dark Ruby? Like, really dark?

    Hmmmm, not sure... don't think it works.

    >The Emperor's Nightmare is lead by one known as the Second-In-Command. He is not called the Chapter Master because the original Chapter Master still keeps the title. He is kept preserved in a venerable dreadnought, alive but never awake. Yet even in his restful state the Nightmare carries him into battle, for his psychic dreams are terrifying to behold.

    How about this instead? All the Chapter Masters (or other great heroes) who are mortally wounded in Battle are placed in Stasis, the forever Sleep, that they may join the Emperor's battle beyond the veil of waking.

    (Let's rip off Guilliman instead, on a grand scale!)
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:54 No.13783431

    Viceroy also works. Not sure about Steward. Maybe Grand Vizier?
    >> DatFrigginGoomba !ikPvLvYZGU 02/04/11(Fri)18:54 No.13783433
    >If I ever get to actually play and not GM
    OP, I'm in this boat.
    I love 40k, got my group to play DH and onward.
    But I myself have never played the game.... Dammit, I got all this together so I could PLAY, not GM.......
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:55 No.13783437
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    Maybe darker, more shadowy colors. My marines are this same color purple, I found making the backpack black worked for some reason, they looked better on the table top.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:56 No.13783448

    No, darker. Like, Black-ish but still obviously red.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:57 No.13783453
    I second Grand Vizier. It sounds really cool.

    If they keep a person alive long enough to reach a static emplacement, then he should be strong enough to be a Dreadnought anyway. I want this chapter to have Dreadnoughts, since dreadnoughts already have a "sleep" thing going for them.
    >> DatFrigginGoomba !ikPvLvYZGU 02/04/11(Fri)18:57 No.13783457
    I like Viceroy, perhap's the Castellan.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:57 No.13783458

    Well, so far I'm sticking to the base GW colors and the current main color is hormogaunt purple. I think it works pretty well.

    I probably could mute some of the colors though, like the chest Emblem.
    >> OP Chapter creation Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)18:58 No.13783467

    The Acolyte of His Slumber
    (shortened to the Acolyte)

    It's left ambiguous to whom the "His" refers to, The Emperor...or the Chapter Master...

    Over the Millenia his office has become more closely intertwined with that of the Chaplains. Thus most of his retinue is that of the ecclesiastical members of the chapter.

    The Chaplains themselves find their duty also shifted to taking care of those taken by The Sleep. They maintain those slumbering and are their to administer the proper Rites upon their waking.

    That is until they are discovered as Dreamers. Then they are taken in by the Librarium, even if they are not Psykers themselves. It is with the Librarium that those that truly fight on in their sleep can reach their full potential. (With the help of the Scholastica Psykana of course.)
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:00 No.13783480
    >The Council of Viziers, led by the Grand Vizier, do the day-to-day management of the chapter. The title of the Grand Vizier is passed among them, for when the leader falls asleep there must always be another to take his place until he wakes.
    >> Medic !!2XdZXXIUy+Y 02/04/11(Fri)19:00 No.13783482
    Maybe there should be a rather large number of Psykers in this chapter.

    Just sayin'.
    >> OP Chapter creation Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:02 No.13783503

    Have to go pick up the girl from work and see my mom for her Birthday...

    Keep this thread alive. I had a blast.

    I also promised Writefaggotry.

    There will be Writefaggotry

    sincerely, OP
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:03 No.13783504
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    A good point. Dreadnoughts probably work better (and would be a VITAL component of this Chapter's heavy assault tactics, given they don't use Devastators!)


    Ah, "Ruby" made me think brighter. Though I dunno if it works even now. Darker? I'm gonna try something else real quick...
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:03 No.13783506
    Really gotta third the whole Vizier deal here. It's a distinct title. Acolytes are used by the Inquisition and the Templars have Castellans.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:03 No.13783510

    Actually, not conscious psykers... What´s the limit for actual control over powers? Eta level? Make most of them that or less. Latent powers but incapable of actually awakening (yes, pun intended) them for battle.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:04 No.13783517
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    Ok, I guess that didn't work too well.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:04 No.13783519
    Warring at the Emperors side during sleep would possibly result in a higher number of Battle Brothers awakening latent psychic powers.
    That would also explain the close relationship with the Scholstica Psykana. They'd no doubt find it very interesting and possibly aid in the training/counceling needed with psychic powers coming to the fore later in life.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:04 No.13783521
    The Chapter's Librarians should be referred to internally as "Oneiromancers". Look it up and you'll see why.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:09 No.13783568
    yeah, too bright. Maybe the color from the shoulderpads put on the helmets and kneecaps (or perhaps one kneecap)
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:09 No.13783569
    I was thinking about a massive agri-world that has begun to plant its crops in subtle patterns of nurgle. These patterns go unnoticed because of the amount of cloud cover and shear size of the patterns. One of the Emperor's Nightmares dreams of the planet with out cloud cover and can see the signs. Maybe the dreams aren't just places to fight in but they also lead them to places of battle when they wake as well. Is this going to much in the wrong direction? Should they consider non-dreams secondary?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:10 No.13783575
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    Fenris Grey actually makes a decent Primary Color for a "dark muted color" marine, but I think the purple works better for our chapter.


    Neat, but a cumbersome word. Unsure.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:10 No.13783577
    The initiation ritual for a Librarian, is to drink hot milk with hallucinogenic mushrooms native to their homeworld.

    The hallucinations during sleep will allow the Librarian to attain a spiritual foothold within the Warp, using his state of sleep as a defensive tool within the Warp. After all, a sleeping mind is so harder to see within the Warp than an awake mind.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:12 No.13783595
    Viziers also works nicely if you want to give a "One Thousand and One /Nights/" feeling to the chapter.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:13 No.13783601
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    Might work, yeah. Also, I think I like what I just did with changing the Midnight Blue on the Pauldrons and the Generic Gold of the chest wings with Fenris Grey.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:13 No.13783602
    I like Marshal as the title better than Vizier. Vizier implies royalty, the Marshal literally means "Stable keeper", someone who keeps track while the general does his thang.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:13 No.13783604
    rolled 64 = 64

    Viceroy just makes me think of Henchman 21.

    Grand Vizier makes me think like Aladdin or something.

    Adjutant is nice and business like but still snappy. I like it.

    No need to look it up and yes. 100% yes.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:14 No.13783609
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    And a Non-Veteran
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:15 No.13783614
    Please god no.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:16 No.13783618
    Shoot for a non-Western-esq chapter culture? Though what are the Raven Guard themselves like?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:17 No.13783623
    I dunno, I kinda like the deeper blue for the shoulderpads, with the chapter's relationship with sleep and all.
    But that looks good, and certainly wouldn't mind if that became the official scheme.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:17 No.13783624

    Hmm. That gives another idea: Storytellers. We must have bedtime stories integrated somewhere. Maybe their librarians keep the chapter's history in the form of a multitude of short, illustrated storybooks, each finely crafted and read bit by bit during nights.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:18 No.13783628
    Varying opinions all around, I like this.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:19 No.13783634
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    ... So we're making Muslim narcoleptic space marines?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:19 No.13783636
    Oooooooh. Maybe their entire history is oral, recorded only in the dreams of their loremasters.
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    Yeah, its a tough call really. I guess I like that the Fenris stands out a bit more. They both look nice, its hard to say.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:21 No.13783646
    I like that, makes sense on several levels. Also, do we have a specific nik-nak that individual marines carry around, or is it just on a personal scale?
    Like each marine chooses and so-forth
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:21 No.13783649
    You know what "Nightmare", "Stealth", "Shock and Awe" screams to me?

    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:21 No.13783650

    But that's the thing: Aladdin is one of the stories of One Thousand and One Nights, which as the tale goes were bedtime stories read to a king. I think the association goes well with the chapter.

    >one unique component of the awakening ritual for the dreadnoughts of the chapter is to give the chassis a rub.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:22 No.13783662
    rolled 2 = 2

    Liked this one better, but with dark red instead of purple.

    Purple... just dosen't bring it...
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:23 No.13783666
    Oral tradition and storytelling? Approving.
    Though I'm not partial to the recording of the chapters history in dreams.
    We're already doing enough dream stuff.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:24 No.13783674

    Yeah, they should be fighting alongside the Emperor during dreams. I like the storybook idea.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:24 No.13783676
    Wait. We´re missing a small part of lore here. They seem awfully close to the Night Lords. Sleep, stealth, shock and awe... Perhaps not all their gene-seed came from the Ravens?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:25 No.13783683
    How about a vast library of the records of the dreams of the marines? Before a battle librarians scour the tomes for dreams applicable, and they are then told as cautionary tales?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:27 No.13783695
    rolled 33 = 33

    left one definatly
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:27 No.13783698
    (Same guy) it'd fit well with the idea of fighting at the emprahs side.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:27 No.13783699
    Oooooh, that's very cool. Seconding that.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:27 No.13783700

    We have elements from the Middle-East story culture, African and South-American drugs, dreams and prophecies, Greek diviners...

    Starts to sound less like taking elements from a culture, and more Fulltime Space Marine, Parttime Dream Scientist.

    "What's happening here, Chief Apothecary?"
    "This is the Sleeping Hall. The massive machines with data cables you see plugged into my Brethren are able to process the electrical impulses of their brains in data our Librarians can translate to images."
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:27 No.13783701
    dun dun DUN
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    Like this? Looks nice, but I'm rather attached to the purple personally.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:28 No.13783705

    Personally, I prefer the right one.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:28 No.13783706
    Leave open to speculation. Don't imply anything, let people's imagination do that for them.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:29 No.13783714
    shit now i dont know
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:30 No.13783723
    The Harbinger? Judge? Reclaimer?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:30 No.13783725
    definatly stick with the purple
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:31 No.13783734
    Left one for certain.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:31 No.13783738
    Exactly. Purple is good. It's the colour of the night, and blue is too Night Lordy.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:32 No.13783740
    Agreed. Though personally I'm not overly fond of the whole "lol this chapter is basically a loyal faction of one of the Traitor Legions" thing that seems to be popular nowadays.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:32 No.13783743
    rolled 42 = 42

    That's a good point. I still feel that the specific word vizier is a bit too... cliched? Overused? Something like that. That's a very, very good point though.

    Is there another word that basically is that word, but isn't that word?

    I like this. We've been doing a bit too much loldreams stuff. This isn't inception. Time to dial it back a bit or we'll ruin the cool fighting in dreams shit by overdoing it.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:32 No.13783746
    well, how about this: different companies use different shades of blue/blue grey.
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    rolled 8 = 8

    A challenger appears?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:33 No.13783753
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:34 No.13783767
    Vizier is overused but, strangely enough, not in 40k. At least not that I've seen. Instantly recognisable and yet unique in regards to space marines. Just be sure not to give him an evil goatee.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:37 No.13783788
    Or a ridiculously huge turban.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:38 No.13783797

    That's just Night Lords.

    Anyway, I think we're forgetting the other side of the description. When they're awake, they're like squirrels on meth.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:39 No.13783809

    Sounds good. Just hint the fact that the "fighting along the big E" isn´t the only reason that the =][= is looking into them.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:39 No.13783814
    Rather two bolt pistols in each hand than a bolt pistol and a sword?

    I'm just imagining your average action movie gangster with dual uzis.

    Except this time, every shot hits.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:41 No.13783834

    Then give those dual-pistol wielders ASSAULT-PACKS
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:41 No.13783837
    I dunno about squirrels on meth, as they are space marines. So cool and collected, but if you trip their danger sense, you better be prepared.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:42 No.13783848
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    Also, for shits and giggles. The current paint scheme hastily thrown into DoWII. I don't play online, so my marines look like crap, sorry.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:43 No.13783866
    I'd like to think of that as stemming from paranoia.
    Both from the constant scrutiny of the inquisition, and their constant need to prove their worthiness to the banner of their almighty Chapter Master.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:45 No.13783883
    I was the one suggesting the deeper blue, but I can dig it.
    that would be interesting.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:48 No.13783919

    I'd imagine that as long as they are awake they hurry to do as much as they can, because they do not know just when the sleep will overtake them. Lots of assault squads and troop transports whose drivers drive like they're in The Fast And The Furious.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:53 No.13783976
    Maybe add a special cult of Waking?

    They're dudes that sleep without dreaming before battle, and stay awake until the mission is either over, or they're dead.

    Sounds kind of Chaplain-y.

    Also can lock in with a concept of Chaplains hammering on to dream but stay awake and that safety regulations stuff.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:53 No.13783977
    Indeed. And many of their warriors probably have reputations for hilarious feats of reflexes and athleticism all undertaken in the grip of sudden haste.
    >> OP Chapter creation Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:54 No.13783981
    I'm back. Kind of...

    I'm not too sure on all the Night Lords stuff. Night Lords are Night Lords, leave em be.

    As for the Bed Time Stories stuff: I see massive vaults where all the Marines take by the sleep are brought. Rows and rows of beds with Chaplains walking between them making blessings on them here and there.

    Meanwhile a Librarian or one in training reads from some massive Illuminated Bible like book detailing the chapter's history and the great deeds of their ancestors (A chapter trait we rolled for)

    As for the Thousand and One Nights...it should be subtle...like real subtle...
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:54 No.13783982
    Combining these two ideas: The higher ups and most veteran marines are paranoid, while the brothers that have been awake the longest are put in assault capacities as to move quickly and with purpose.
    losedice watson,
    Oh no! Watson lost his dice!
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)19:56 No.13784005
    Right, I´m out and this better get archived.

    I´m kinda proud to be one of the creators of the Narcolep- *AHUM* Emperor´s Nightmares.
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    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:05 No.13784097
    Keep to two contrasting colours gentlemen. And avoid making the second colour a lighter or darker hue than the first. Light colours with a darker version of that colour as their secondary colour does not work.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:06 No.13784105

    The purple looks too pink on that one. Almost pre-heresy Emperor's Children.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:07 No.13784112
    rolled 12 = 12

    Fuck. Yes. Marines who haven't slept since the campaign began two months earlier swerving, drifting and doughnuting around obstacles in an overcharged rhino.

    Blood Angels rules are probably best for them on the TT. Both for the overcharged engines lending to the haste and reflexes theme, and for the librarians. AND for the dreadnought focus for that matter.

    You could even refluff the death company as those who have become completely unable to sleep and after a year or two of going insane wish only to die in battle and be granted the Emperor's sleep of the just.

    We need to focus more on the juxtaposition of the Night Owl veterans, the slumbering dreadnoughts and other dreamers and the practically-on-meth hyperalertness of those who are forced to stay awake for weeks at a time.

    For those who are psychically dreaming, and thus stuck in the warp, should they have prophetic dreams frequently, occasionally or not at all? I really like the idea of trying to slay a daemon's after-image in the warp while it's busy and distracted manifested in the real world, thus slaying the daemon perminantly rather than merely banishing it. This would probably be exceedingly difficult though as even the lowliest bloodletter was created from powerful emotions of rage and violent urges. In tabletop stat terms each bloodletter is more like a bloodthirster on its home turf. The Warp isn't exactly the space marines' chapter keep. They would be in constant danger there.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:09 No.13784141

    I'd say replace the lighter purple with the dark red or dark blue. The light purple should be reserved for trims only.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:10 No.13784146
    its funny how the warp is pretty much the bloody magpies chapter keep
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:12 No.13784164
    Chaplain on stealth.

    "Do not to wake the sleeping dog. Best is, to let the sleeping dog sleep the eternal sleep."
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    I've been lurking since the first thread and i'd just like to say that this chapter is awesome
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:15 No.13784203
    rolled 91 = 91

    And for that matter, all the furious charge stuff represents whether or not that squad has just woken up or has been awake for weeks and is getting really agitated and twitchy
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:16 No.13784209

    Fuck. no. now i have a reason to buy storm ravens and furioso dreads.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:21 No.13784264
    just out of interest have we decided on the chapter symbol yet?
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    I really like the idea of insomniac marines being very stealthy- after all, they can wait and wait and wait and stalk whoever they're tracking. Eventually, you are going to fall asleep. As you desperately look around and try to spot what's following you, you get sleepier, so you start jumping at shadows. Pretty soon, you're not sure whether or not that dark shadow is a marine or just your imagination.

    And once you fall asleep, it will be too late for you to escape, in the living world or in dreams.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:22 No.13784274

    A two-headed owl clutching an hourglass, one head asleep while the other awake.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:30 No.13784338
    With them being insomniacs, I imagine their stealth to be less "ninja-like" stealth and more "commandos" and "mission impossible" style stealth, with them breaking in through the ventilation and roof, doing the hit/retrieving the object, and getting out. They have a plan, they have a time limit, and they keep an escape route open.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:30 No.13784339
    rolled 95 = 95

    So to recap:

    Founded in M39. Young but not that young.

    Raven Guard gene seed

    No devastators.

    Take pride in their colours but still favour stealth tactics.

    Catalpsean node mutation causes extremes of sleep. Either slipping into near comas for a month or staying awake for the same. With every passing day awake they become more alert and aware, the overstimulation making them jittery and twitchy.

    Connections to Scholasta Psykana. Together with the librarians they seek to coach those who enter the fugue into fighting in the warp. Though most within the chapter never reach this level (usually it's only those with actual psychic potential who can do this) many recieve prophetic dreams and some even claim upon waking that they were visited by the Emperor or even fought alongside him.

    For this reason both the Echlesiarchy and the Inquisition are watching them carefully.

    Dreadnoughts are the chapter's ultimate badasses. Spending most of their time slumbering and travelling the warp with the librarian choirs they are woken to do battle in the real world rarely. Luckily the chapter has many dreadnoughts.

    First Chapter Master was originally a company captain of the Raptors, seconded over to lead the chapter upon its creation following his defeat of a mighty daemon prince. The chapter master is now the chapter's eldest dreadnought and has not woken in over 1,000 years. He is still technically the leader of the chapter but an adjutant commands in his place.

    What have I forgotten?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:32 No.13784357
    rolled 82 = 82

    Yeah. Two headed owl (or aquila) clutching an hourglass. One of the heads is asleep.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:35 No.13784390

    They keep a council which passes the leadership role between them when the leader falls asleep (and I still like the vizier title more). They record their chapter history in a multitude of illustrated storybooks, recording the chapter's battles both in waking and in dream, which are selected as cautionary tales to be read before battle. Occasionally they carry their sleeping chapter master into battle due to the fear-inducing effect of his psychic dreams.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:35 No.13784394
    >Totemic Charm: This chapter has strong beliefs in the icons of either the Emperor or their Primarch. A Battle Brother from this chapter would never be caught without such an icon on their person.
    This was rolled as well, dunno how you guys want to work that in.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:36 No.13784398
    hive city - barren world. They are civilian figureheads
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:36 No.13784399
    rolled 30 = 30

    I like this. It lets them take pride in their colours when actually in the field while still having that stealth feel of a Raven Guard successor. Good balance.

    Their dreadnoughts should be ninjas though. Silent as the grave. Like the Imperial Guard say about lictors: "nothing that big should be able to move that quietly... or that fast!"

    After all, we need a chapter for /tg/'s Rambo Stealthnought to call home.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:37 No.13784409

    It was suggested that the totem is a plush Emperor that the marines always keep by their side.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:41 No.13784449
    rolled 13 = 13

    Teddy bear for lulz, ever-spinning top for obnoxious pop culture reference and dream cliche.

    Personally I like the idea of it being something that looks fairly mundane but serves a purpose. I was thinking a blindfold. The overstimulated marines put it on when not in combat so that they can calm their nerves a bit and "pretend sleep" for a few hours with one less sense overwhelming them.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:44 No.13784494
    rolled 14 = 14

    It also explains why they'd never be caught without it on their person.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:45 No.13784509
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    Thats going a bit over the top.


    Also, not sure the Chapter Master should have any of the dreaming powers (not that it largely matters now that he sleeps the Great Sleep inside his sarcophagus), as he was originally form the Raptors, and thus has Raptor geneseed, presumably different than what the Mechanicus Genetors used to create the Nightmares.

    Also, is it Emperor's Nightmares or Emperor's Nightmare? Anyways, Final Draft(?) Color scheme.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:46 No.13784524

    We can always have the sliding scale of silliness. Emperor plush is for /tg/-brand muckin' about, something else for when it's serious business.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:49 No.13784553
    A blindfold made from the skin of a special cavedwelling creature native to their homeworld.

    It's a dangerous creature, but the main problem is, it lives in perfect darkness down in the bowers of the Earth.

    That's the test for becoming a Space Marine, a horde of kids descending down from the Upper Spire to the lower Hive, until they enter the caves underneath the Hive. At the Upper Spire, they had a meal of kings in the presence of the local nobility and the high-ranking officers of the Chapter, as well as occasionally a travelling Imperial agent.

    Everyone in the Middle Hive cheers for them in decorated streets, and even in the Underhive, gangwars are stopped to let the children pass, in fact, many gangers will fire salutes into the air, often causing problems with boiling gas vents.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:51 No.13784567
    rolled 3 = 3

    Still pushing for that blindfold.

    If y'all have a better idea I'd love to hear it but I think the blindfold is perfect and makes the most sense for the chapter. They could even write bits of the codex astartes or other things on them.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:51 No.13784569
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    True. Perhaps their Hive World has some cultural influences on the dream thing as well.

    Maybe they or their planet has a thing not unlike a Chippewa Native American Dream Catcher?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:52 No.13784577

    Perhaps the "serious" totem is a blank book, in which they record their lessons and their adventures for the librarians to keep. Because they never know when sleep will take them they always keep one at hand, writing in it as soon as they have time to do so. When they wake from their sleep, the first thing they do is record their dream before it fades from their memory.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:53 No.13784586
    No-sleep marines: Death Company
    Normal marines: normal or assault marines
    Coma marines: Psyker dreadnought

    BA fits them perfectly
    >> Wolesz 02/04/11(Fri)20:53 No.13784588
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    I've seen the first thread, and that's awesome, I'm not so sure over playing a Flesh Tearer in DW now.

    Just to add my two pennies:


    Also, there's already the whole "visions in sleep" motif, but I've thought perhaps of them having hallucinations and other weird stuff going on because of being awake for so long.

    As for colours, I, for one, always associated sleep with a mix of different contrasting colours and kaleidoscope-like patterns, but that won't probably work as a color scheme. What about throwing in some mindfuck stuff, like that on pic?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)20:55 No.13784612
    I think the blindfold is unique and an interesting twist with it being made from their homeworld, but I also like >>13784577's idea about the book.
    >> Wolesz 02/04/11(Fri)20:58 No.13784641
    >record their dream before it fades from their memory.
    I'm not sure if you know, but that's exactly how Lovecraft wrote most of his stuff(I'm sure with Nyarlathotep).
    Maybe a common dream is true names of Daemons, or Daemons themselves?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:00 No.13784657

    I'm seconding the book idea. It sounds cool, and it fits with the established lore, if you will. Although I still kind of like the Emperor Plushie, but the book makes more sense to carry into battle anyway (after all, one wouldn't want to bring the image of the Emperor to where it can be easily destroyed).
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:02 No.13784679
    rolled 3 = 3

    Yeah and I like the dreamcatcher idea too.

    But I have a solution that makes sense:

    They would probably carry both or all three.

    Given the duality of each marine, they would probably all carry a blindfold for when they're forced to stay awake, a dreamcatcher to guard them with the Emperor's blessing while they sleep and a journal to write their dreams in for the chapter library when they're away on assignment.

    Having just one of these but not the others just makes less and less sense to me when I think about them all together. I'd say combined they are the chapter trapping. Book, catcher, blindfold, bolter. These are the holy tools of the chapter.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:06 No.13784735
    Yeah, that sounds good

    Also, I really love >>13784338's idea of commandos rather than ninjas
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:07 No.13784753
    The Three Tenets, the Three Pillars.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:15 No.13784866
    rolled 67 = 67

    Ditto. It keeps the stealth theme while reconciling it with the pride they have in their colours. Also it's badass.

    Good. Great! Expand on this /tg/. I must leave to consume alcohol.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:15 No.13784868
    Ooh, how about the catchers, or whatever you want to call them, are there to anchor the mind to the body, so that the ones fighting in the warp can find their way back.
    And for the ones that don't fight in the warp that often, it's a precaution so that if they do get 'chosen' they will be prepared.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:16 No.13784879
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    summarizing the Deathwatch rules so far:

    The Emperor's Nightmares Chapter
    Chapter Demeanour: "See, But Don't be Seen."
    Stat Bonuses: +5 Per +5 Int
    Restriction: Cannot be Devastator

    Advance Table:

    Intimidate 100 xp
    Intimidate +10 100 xp
    Intimidate +20 100 xp
    Interrogation 100 xp
    Interrogation +10 100 xp
    Interrogatin +20 100 xp
    Iron Jaw 300 xp
    Duty Unto Death 700 xp
    Crushing Blow 500 xp
    Double Team 100 xp

    Solo Ability:
    Quick reaction is the hallmark of this chapter. While in Solo Mode, the Battle Brother is considered to have the Lightning reflexes Talent. At Rank 3, the battle brother receives a +10 to all Dodge tests. At Rank 5, the battle brother is considered to have the Rapid reaction Talent. At rank 7, once per game session the battle brother may automatically pass any one agility based test. (for opposed they rolled 01)

    Squad Attack Pattern:
    Oath of Vengeance: Action: Free Cost: 1 Sustained: No
    When any member of the Kill-team suffers Damage the Character receives a +4 bonus to damage rolls against the attacker. At rank 5 this ability may be sustained.

    Squad Defense Pattern:
    Courage Under Fire: Action: Free Cost: 0 Sustained: No
    The battle brother inspires those under his command to press on in the face of danger. When this ability is used the battle brother and any within support range of him may immediately recover from being pinned. At rank 4, those under the effect of this ability may also make a Half-move as a free action.

    Chapter Trappings:

    Totemic Charm:
    [Blindfold] (can't think of a name): ???
    Book of Reveries: ???
    Dreamspinner's Web: ??? (+3 to willpower tests to resist Psyker powers and Fear?)
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:27 No.13785000

    Anyways, I guess all thats really left is a Chapter Relic, the trappings, and a few psyker powers, unfortunately I don't really have an interest in filling out the powers, mechanically at least.

    Only ideas I had for them were one that puts enemies to sleep (either subtlety or forcibly), and the "big power" which part of the cost is putting the Nightmares Dreamer/Psyker into the Deep Coma-Sleep so that he may attack the enemy "Beyond the Veil of Waking".

    I think I just like "Beyond the Veil of Waking" as a phrase too much, even though it makes questionable sense.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:28 No.13785016
    For the blindfold how about ebon sheet or something?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:46 No.13785200
    Blindfold of the Ebon Sight: The marine may don his blindfold (helmet must be removed) and place himself in a meditative state, doing so will allow him to reduce his battle fatigue by 1 point every 30 mins. While in this state marine suffers a -20 to perception tests

    Book of Reveries: Once per gaming session the marine my make a hard difficulty (-10 or -20 i think) int role to gain any insight into overcoming his current foe. Each degree of success grants additional info although any such knowledge will be in the form of dreams and portents
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:50 No.13785251

    Those are a bit powerful compared to most of the chapter trappings in the Deathwatch Core book.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:52 No.13785276

    I think the Psychic Powers should be as such;

    Silence: Creates a zone of quiet. Sustainable.

    Nightmare: Induces fear in enemies. Sustainable.

    Lullaby: Opposed willpower test against targets, if target fails they fall asleep. Degrees of success of focus power roll allow for more targets.

    Fade into Memory: banishes warp creatures and ends ongoing and sustained psychic effects

    Beyond the Veil: a slightly modified version of "My Will, Manifest" from Ascension, allows the librarian to roam free as a being of ethereal energy while his body remains in a coma.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)21:56 No.13785321

    And since there is room for one more,

    Hyperactivity: the kill-team gain an increase to their agility and movement characteristics. Sustainable.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)22:27 No.13785666
    bumping for awesomeness
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)22:47 No.13785883
    hey, does anyone have the link to the first half of this?
    Also, has someone archived this one as well, as I think we hammered out the final details in this thread.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)22:54 No.13785947
    This = this.awesome;
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)23:01 No.13786022

    Link to the archived old one: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/13780616/

    Link to the archive of this one: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/13783333/
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)23:05 No.13786051
    Thanks dude, much obliged.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)23:23 No.13786225
    Well done /tg/! Well done!

    I'll be proud to take this Chapter into battle in Dow 2: Retri
    >> Anonymous 02/04/11(Fri)23:51 No.13786484
    Is there a chapter badge?
    >> Medic !!2XdZXXIUy+Y 02/05/11(Sat)00:24 No.13786763
    I doodled one last thread, but no-one really took to it.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)00:56 No.13787072

    I just took a look at it. Need to tighten it up, I think.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)01:15 No.13787276
    If you're doing that during the beta, post some screen in this or a future(?) Nightmares thread. I'd like to see how >>13784509 looks.
    >> OP Chapter creation Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)03:57 No.13788686
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    JUST WOW!!!

    OP OP here.

    I'm so happy with this. So very very happy.

    The Blindfolds...awesome. Book for remembering dreams...pretty awesome. (Make it some mandatory thing ingrained in them by their Librarians, maybe a way of detecting True Dreamers) Dreamcatcher...fuck all awesome! Screw purity seals!

    Sleep for now. But waking up and writefagging!
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)04:13 No.13788820
    Say, why not give the librarians the ability to forcefully "wake" their brethren up, in the case when some of marines go into sleep without warning in the midst of a firefight. However this ability can only stimulate the cerebellum which controls the motor control.

    Gentleman, I present to you, a sleep walking space marine.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)04:21 No.13788871
    Sounds like it'd be more the domain of the Apothecaries, toting about industrial-grade doses of hyperamphetamines.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)04:30 No.13788943
    Huh. If we start interpreting the Chapter's hyperactiveness and sleeplessness as the product of constant amphetamine injections from their power armour, that's...kinda interesting.

    The Catalpsean Node mutation actually makes them perpetually prone to death-like sleep, but that's unacceptable considering what the hell they're supposed to be doing...so, instead, they are kept pumped full of powerful amphetamines etc. to force them into wakefulness. Thus their high-strung twitchiness. Their sleep-bouts are when their systems finally crash, whereupon they dream terrible and fantastical dreams (which are then faithfully recorded afterward).
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)04:39 No.13789023
    Slight revision to this - fuck the injections from power armour. Instead, they are implanted with chem glands that fulfill the same purpose during the implantation of the Catalpsean Node. The days/weeks-long crashes come from a combination of the glands being strained from overuse and the general bodily health of the Marine in question being unable to take further abuse.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)04:39 No.13789025
    The mutation of the chapter was decided by dice rolls. It is a huge disadvantage but it seems pretty set in stone.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)04:40 No.13789039
    It was indeed, but there are plenty of ways to interpret the results while still staying true to them, yes?
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)04:42 No.13789057
    Good point. I like the revision more btw.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)07:16 No.13789924
    I'd play the shit out of this chapter.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)10:41 No.13790896
    Gentlemen, I've never really wanted to get into 40k. It always seemed so overhyped, too grim, too dark, just taken too damn far. Everything I know of it comes from you, fa/tg/uys.

    This chapter, though... colorblind eyes and cost restrictions be damned, I am buying some fucking marines, painting up a full crew of the Emperor's Nightmares, and they WILL be fielded by summer's rise. In the name of the dreamers, this I swear.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)10:44 No.13790910
    I demand pics when they are done.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)11:07 No.13791033
    Just speaking out of my ass here, but they sound a bit like a naturally occurring, toned down version of an eversor. Maybe they could keep a token one in one of their battle barges, seeing as they both are either in constant twitchy alertness, or in a coma?

    They could use it as a sort of cooperation between them and the Officio Assassinorum, as a sort of last resort weapon when a stealth mission goes pear shaped.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)11:51 No.13791246
    Holy shit /tg/... This chapter... So epic. I wish I'd get to play DW some day as well...
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)11:55 No.13791259
    "Why would one use two boltpistols over a bolter?" the Dark Angel asked.

    The Emperor's Nightmare froze for a few seconds, and turned to the other in a split second.
    "Because bolters... too few bullets, too little time."
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)12:19 No.13791381
    rolled 15 = 15

    Eh, I like the idea that their wakeful state is just as extreme as their sleeping state and that the longer they stay awake the more twitchy they get. Making it as simple as "lol space meth" kind of detracts from the feel of the chapter IMO

    That said, this, like the Night Owls, could certainly be some kind of special unit. I absolutely agree that the apothecaries would be forced, on occasion, to wake up a comatose marine so that he can fight for his life. This totally would happen, I just don't like it being something the entire chapter does let alone something the entire chapter does regularly.

    To me though this seems more like a great counts as for Astorath the Grim. If the entire army is all methheads it loses a lot of its originality and becomes just like all the other chapters out there on combat drugs.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)12:34 No.13791477
    If they regularly used adrenaline drugs, then it would deny their abillity to fight along the emperor in their sleep anyways. Let us not sacrifice the true battle for it's mere trappings.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)12:52 No.13791586
    I'm thinking "The Dream Catchers" could be a name people find...... [spoiler]catchy[spoiler]
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)12:56 No.13791615
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    Read that in his voice.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)13:04 No.13791663
    Anything special about the Scouts?
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)13:04 No.13791664
    1d4chan article needs update. Seriously.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)13:23 No.13791807
    Have the chapter creation rules been scanned or something? I missed the original thread.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)13:25 No.13791822

    No, the haven't also, the original thread (and this one) are on the suptg archives, if you're interested.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)13:25 No.13791825
    Not scanned, people were just rolling and the OP was checking his copy of the book for results.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)13:25 No.13791829

    Aww. Oh well, thanks guys.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)13:34 No.13791889
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    LOL /tg/, I love thee.

    Also, awesome chapter guys. I just now read this thread, Well worked out, I can't wait for some miniatures. Too bad the Angry/Pretty Marines now have a serious competitor.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)15:30 No.13792869
    Brother Adelphos of the Emperor's Nightmare chapter let out a breath as his hands worked their way with the swiftness that came with decades of experience. Though his sight was filled with only the darkness the blindfold could offer, he was not hampered in anyway.

    The Emperor gifts, his augmentations, made him more than a mere man. Even now, his skin felt the slightest of breezes even through the recycled air of the Battle Barge. The papery parchment of his Purity Seal ticked at his cheeks as his movement jostled the blindfold and its attached cargo. The cured leather of his blindfold soothes He could smell the holy oils that the room had been anointed with, and the faint whines of servos told him that his fellow brothers were doing much the same as he was right now. Anyone fool enough to think him vulnerable was too stupid to breathe.

    Practiced fingers lifted a hinged lid, and from it, Brother Adelphos gently lifted a small object. Seemingly made from simple twine and feathers, the Dreamcatcher was a marvel of technology. It had been created by the craftsmen of Mars, of the mysterious Machine Cult, and designed with the aid of the Scholasta Psykana to aid his chapter and him alone. The deceptive looking thing was actually made with the intention of harnessing Psychic energy. So very useful for him. The Librarians spoke of how in ancient days, before even the founding of the Imperium, they had been used to protect children, by snaring malevolent daemons of the Warp. Such records were heavily fractured and unreliable of course, but a small part of him reveled in the legend. Of course, this Dreamcather was far different. His thoughts and dreams would fuel the beacon. It was the Chapter's greatest weapon against the horrors of the Warp. And it in turn gave them a mote of protection. It was believed that the Emperor made himself known through it, and as long as the Brother gave it their protection, he too would give the Marines solace.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)15:31 No.13792876

    His idle thoughts, his rage and fury, all of it would be sharpened to a fine point with this focus. This Dreamcatcher had belonged to Sergeant Iskander himself.

    He hung it above his head before sitting down, ready to start his rest cycle. The Emperor's Nightmare Chapter had been the butt of more than one joke among other Marines. Some sneered that the Nightmares were of no use considering their mutation. But Adelphos knew his own capabilities, and more than one foe had felt the teeth of his chainsword. It could not be denied however, that his brothers grabbed elusive sleep whenever possible. Any respite, any chance would be taken without a second thought. It was a small joke that for the Nightmares, their free time was rest time. Every few seconds of fervered sleep meant more seconds to fight, and more time to stave off his inevitable collapse.

    He breathed in deeply before Adelphos began his prayers.

    "My Emperor, I give you now my offerings, let this darkness consume me, for your light will ensure its failure. Let your glory fill my limbs, and may my wrath consume your foes," he murmured.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)15:32 No.13792885
    Other Brothers had already started their prayers, and with effort, Adelphos blocked them out to focus on his own thoughts, though now that the Dreamcatcher had started to whirl as its archaic components activated, made it difficult.

    Every bit of emotion he could conjure went into the thing. It was as though the Dreamcather was an empty basin, and his mind a full pitcher. Adelphos' jittery nerves calmed as he poured all his worries and thoughts. Minutes later, Adelphos' mind was as clear as it ever got, and though surrounded by Chapter Serfs and fellow Brothers, he felt alone.

    He let out one last breath, and waited for a sleep that would never come.


    Not my best, but I think this is a good interpretation of the Emperor's Nightmare chapter from what I've seen you all made.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)15:50 No.13793054
    After this we need an entry on 1d4chan
    >> Anomalous? 02/05/11(Sat)15:56 No.13793095
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)15:57 No.13793112
    Not inb4 I do a little bit of drawfaggotry. It will be in B&W, though, since I can't stand this colour scheme.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)16:00 No.13793132
    >In the name of the dreamers, this I swear.
    That would be a great oath for the chapter btw. Would be nice to see that get worked in.
    Loved it.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)16:01 No.13793146

    You mean >>13784509 colour scheme? For a marine colour scheme, it actually is pretty sensible. What do you not like about it?
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)16:07 No.13793195
    I'm not debating the usefulness of dark colours, I'm just saying that it feels like all those purplish colours are raping my eyes, but not frankly enough to make it at least FABULOUS. I just looks wrong to me, that's all.
    >> Anomalous? 02/05/11(Sat)16:15 No.13793274
    As gay as it sounds, it's all about colour science. Blue and purple go together, but don't create a statement. There's no OOMPH. You need a contrasting colour to bring it out. Gold usually works well. (See preheresy Emperor's Children) A blue Aquilla is neat, but it's also slightly heretical to the puritanical. If you made the Aquila gold, would it look any better?

    If not, how about some bright blue around the eyes? They're supposed to be all about sleep, so do something neat around the eyes. A white glow or a light blue glow. See below link, for some cool eye effects.

    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)16:19 No.13793319
    Wasn't this chapter being haunted by the daemon prince their founder killed or something?
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)16:27 No.13793392
    Not quite, though the main enemy is the demon the chapter founder banished. In their dreams the marines continue to battle him by choice I believe. I would say the chapter is haunting the demon not the other way around.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)16:33 No.13793436


    Well, feel free to try a different scheme.
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)16:34 No.13793460
    I know, but deep blue AND pink on a dark purplish armour are too much for me. Especially with red optics. It just looked like they tried to use every colour akin to purple instead of one contrasting one (deep blue is fine for me) at several places.

    Starting now. Sorry for the delay, was looking for my cat.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)17:54 No.13794246
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    Had a go tweaking the colour scheme. What to you elegan/tg/entleman think?
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:02 No.13794316
    I'm totally imagining a venerable dreadnought with THE DREAMER IS AWAKE written on its prow.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:04 No.13794330
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    Fixed, nothing to garish no clashing, nice neat decent paint scheme.
    >> Anomalous? 02/05/11(Sat)18:05 No.13794341
    What is you made the Aquila bright silver and the eyes bright silver? IT would provide the necessary flash, and the colours would say "Dreams" more than gold and red, which say, "GLORY" more.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:06 No.13794362
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    This gave me a dread-boner.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:08 No.13794388
    This reminds me a lot of Xuthal of the Dusk.
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)18:09 No.13794394
    Now THIS looks good.

    Thank you, it was starting to piss me off doing it again and again not finding the right way to draw it.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:09 No.13794395
    I figured the red eyes is kind of a joke anyways. Red eyes because they lack sleep type thing. Silver I don't think I have seen before and sounds good.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:18 No.13794464
    Thank you good sir.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:18 No.13794465
    >nothing to garish
    One of the original dice rolls had the chapter as garish to begin with, right? Seems to be stepping away from the random rolls that generated the chapter.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:19 No.13794479
    Not necessarily garish, as I recall, just proud of and eager to display their chapter's colors and heraldry.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:19 No.13794480
    It never said that the Chapter was garish, just that they took a lot of pride in the Chapter Colors.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:20 No.13794496
    I wasn't aware of the original rolls unfortunately, I've just been going off of the content of this thread.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:20 No.13794500
    Ah, thanks for the correction.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:21 No.13794506
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:23 No.13794530
    No, they had pride in their colors.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:29 No.13794606
    i think this is pretty good too
    don't like purple marines personally
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:35 No.13794667
    rolled 93 = 93

    As people have said before, all blue makes them look too Night Lords-y, and all purple feels too Emperor's Children-y. Not that they aren't good paint schemes, it just doesn't stand out from the pack very well.

    How about a quartered yellow and purple scheme? Should look ace. Complementary colours and all that, and quartered schemes are always cool
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:43 No.13794735
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    Delivarin' because i'm bored and it sounde like a good idea.
    >> Anomalous? 02/05/11(Sat)18:43 No.13794739
    I say nightmare, you don't think of yellow. You think of blue, black, and purple. Like a big damn bruise.

    Sorry Anon, but the blue scheme looks really generic. It looks like a muted Ultramarine. At least the purple scheme had some originality to it.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:45 No.13794753
    0.o I like it.
    >> Anomalous? 02/05/11(Sat)18:52 No.13794807
    I stand corrected.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:54 No.13794824
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    rolled 18 = 18

    Me again. Here's my attempt at what I was thinking:
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:55 No.13794827
    >specialized in infiltration
    >bitchin' purple and yellow color

    Dude, are you fucking retarded?
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:56 No.13794837
    That color scheme could look fucking great on a table top. The best so far imo.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:57 No.13794843
    rolled 54 = 54

    >thinks they specialize in stealth

    We've already agreed that they take pride in their rather flamboyant colours and that they specialize in commando raids and quick insertion/extraction stuff rather than out and out sneaky stealth.

    Read the threads before you insult people.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)18:59 No.13794858


    Nothing was said about flamboyant colors, they just take prind in their colors, whatever they are.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:01 No.13794875
    I think we made it nearly 500 posts about The Emperor's Nightmare without someone insulting a fellow poster. GOOD JOB!
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:01 No.13794879
    Personally I like the purple and blue color scheme, it fits.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:02 No.13794883
    rolled 6 = 6

    We've been calling their colours "FAAABULOUS" since like the second post in the first thread my good sir. I'm not butthurt about anything, you're merely incorrect and somewhat unneccisarily rude.

    Now then, back to the discussion.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:03 No.13794903
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    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:06 No.13794931
    >I looked dumb on the internets
    >lol jokes on you i was totally trolling

    c'mon bro. Contribute to the discussion. I'm sure you have some great ideas rattling around in that brain of yours.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:09 No.13794953
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    any better, or is the silver aquila(sp?) too bright?
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)19:11 No.13794967
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    Posting this.

    B and W since you are still argueing about the colours.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:12 No.13794976
    Hey Technomancer, did you ever do the techpriestess "Doctor is In" image?
    >> Anomalous? 02/05/11(Sat)19:12 No.13794977
    Holy shit.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:12 No.13794979
    Holy crap, yes. YES.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:12 No.13794981
    So about the chapter's dreadnoughts.

    There are a lot of them right?

    How? Why? Do they make them in-house? Did they find a huge stash of dreadnought armour on a forgotten moonbase somewhere?

    Are only the psykers who are really good at doing the sleep-fighting stuff picked to be dreadnoughts? Do you think they only have librarian dreadnoughts or do they have a wide variety?

    Since they don't have devastators someone said the dreadnoughts would cover this roll, I think that makes some sense. Riflemen dreads for fire support and all that. That would explain why they USE dreads so often, but we should still flesh out where they get all those machines from.
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)19:13 No.13794986
    Dunno what you're talking about, man...
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:18 No.13795008
    Techpriestess in a Peanuts style gag setup, psychology stand, Doctor is In?

    You said you were thinking about doing it?
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:18 No.13795011
    I notice the harp, did you come up with that yourself or was that in the thread earlier and I missed it? Either way I like the symbol on his hand and the harp on the hip.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:18 No.13795012
    Nice. I dig the archaic gothic bling and so forth. It visually accentuates the chapter's heavy ties to the psykana and their whole librarian fetish. Plus this chap looks pretty nightmarish himself.

    As to the colour scheme, the purple is quintensentially nightmarish while the yellow makes me think of sand. The whole Arabian Nights storytelling thing, not to mention Oneiros putting sand in your eyes while you sleep. I think having visual cues for that can only be a good thing.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:22 No.13795044
    they anti-steal them from the magpies
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)19:23 No.13795056
    Totally made up this one. Orpheus and shit.
    Also, the daemon prince they fought should be a Tzeentchian one with a name that sounds like Nyarlathotep. Or at least the Chapter Master's name should be Randolph Something or Echpiel if you want to sound more hebraic.

    Ah, right.

    Frankly, I wonder if a female spyker wouldn't be better.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:24 No.13795060
    Could go with a dark purple-black highlighted with a sandy shade. Basically, purple and gold if you take out everything bright, shiny, and garish about them.
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)19:26 No.13795074
    Would look a bit like Emprah's children, unfortunately. But if the base colour is more bluish (like indigo) why not.

    I still love this one:>>13794332
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:27 No.13795088
    Earlier when I was thought that they are garish I was wrong. They aren't so much garish as they take pride in their colors. I think of a tartan type thing when they aren't in armor.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:27 No.13795093
    I don't think anyone would ever go to a Psyker for Psychiatry (unless you're implying mind-probing, which could only end in tears), and in 40k Techpriests are infinitely more likely to be doctors (as scary as that seems), even if they'd have medieval level ideas concerning psychiatry -- see the most popular solution, "drill a hole in the brain to let the evil spirits out".

    Besides, I really wanted to see it done with the "creepy techpriestess", as she was an old request of mine and I did want to see something else with her other than another Advice Dog macro or masturbation pic.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:28 No.13795101
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    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:29 No.13795114
    > when I was thought
    fuck I need to read this crap before posting...
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:30 No.13795135
    I'm 100% behind it being a Tzeentchian prince. That fits really well. Also 'Randolph the red-eyed Raptor' is just fun to say.

    But then it's not quartered. Quartering is bitchin'

    Also very few marine schemes are quartered so it stands out that little bit more.
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)19:32 No.13795147
    Then why not simply an officio medicae adept? Can be extremely creepy as well.

    Not trying to make you bite off the techpriestess, just suggesting ideas that sound better to me.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:34 No.13795176
    That is obscenely funny. Goddamn. I am having trouble breathing here. I could die maybe.

    Fuck you for weaponizing humour.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:36 No.13795187
    This is so weird. I'm too used to /tg/ making joke chapters like the Pretty Marines, Bald Marines, Lazy Marines, etc...

    That I have no idea how to react to a serious Chapter.
    >> Alpharius 02/05/11(Sat)19:37 No.13795203
    They should use blood angels rules.
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)19:37 No.13795205

    Provide content. Make it your army. Promote them. Make it worth the efforts put in it.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:41 No.13795237
    Dude, there are medical personnel in 40k, HELL, there´s entire order of Sister of Battle combat medics.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:43 No.13795261
    That's what we've been thinking yeah.

    Librarian dreadnoughts; death company as the few marines that become completely unable to sleep and try to kill themselves in battle after years of going insane from lack of sleep; fast vehicles representing the twitchy reflexes of the overstimulated drivers.

    Blood Angels rules actually fit the Emperor's Nightmares to a T.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:45 No.13795282

    >>13795187 here. I was also the Writefag who did >>13792869

    I've been trying to think of a new story I might use, but the relative seriousness of the Chapter makes it difficult. I have no idea how to portray what makes this Chapter unique, the use of Sleep offensively. All my brain is coming up with is a generic scenario where a squad busts through a heretic Imperial Governor's mansion, knifing people and cracking heads before making a daring escape.

    Humor? That's fairly simple if you exaggerate character traits, but a serious story...
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)19:47 No.13795295
    Then write something about their dreams. Agaaaain, Randolph Carter's Dreamquest ftw.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:49 No.13795313
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)19:51 No.13795331
    Fuck this. Or retcon it heavily to make it serious.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:52 No.13795340
    We are aware of that. The conclusion we came to was if /tg/ came up with the same idea twice, that it must mean its awesome. Check sup/tg/ for archived threads.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:54 No.13795362
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    I was actually going to ask about the Dream Warriors. Weather they would be considered a more specialised chapter since they dont do battle while awake.

    I once tried to figure out what sort of party setup would work in Inception 40k. I think Arthur would be a Dream Warriors Scout Sgt while Eams would be a Psyker or DW Librarian. Cobb would be a Radical inquisitor reluctantly working for Saito, an Inquisitor Lord.
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)19:56 No.13795379
    So I'm not the only guy who appreciated Inception mostly for its huge RPG potential?

    Doodling another pic right now.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)19:59 No.13795400
    Because the core of the joke is that Lucy isn't a real psychiatrist. Making it an actual psychiatrist would ruin it anyway.

    ie, a Techpriest is smart enough to "fake it" but the results are likely just as haphazard.

    Have you ever read Peanuts?
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)20:01 No.13795413
    As I said, I only read a few strip, I'm really really not familiar with it at all.

    Alright, multitasking now, I'll sketch it up.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)20:14 No.13795529
    Maybe write something from the point of view of tactical marines defending their sleeping brothers while on a demon infested planet. "We envy not their sleep, the stillness of the body does not convey the battle that rages within the mind." All that while fighting off packs of demons. Doesn't have to be the dream battles themselves just the odd situations the chapter gets into because of them.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)20:17 No.13795561
    I was thinking on this too, but my day is packed and my writefagging hat is dusty and moth-eaten. All I could come up with is something with alternating POVs, one storyline following a group of Nightmares in their assault on a cultist compound in the middle of summoning a demon, the other from the POV of a dreamer, wading through the mist of dreams, following his instincts and coming upon the warp presence of the summoned daemon just as his brothers in arms begin taking it on back in the real world.
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)20:19 No.13795581
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    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)20:38 No.13795758
    That's pretty cool, Technomancer!

    But do you think you could maybe obscure the face with like shadow and such?

    That and the three circular eyes are kind of the most identifiable part of her character.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)20:39 No.13795769
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    a ref
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)20:41 No.13795786
    So you're saying that each squad could have a dreamer on overwatch perhaps?

    >ixprivin Ohno.
    I guess they lost some Battle Brothers that way if captcha is any indicator.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)20:45 No.13795837
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    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)20:46 No.13795842
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    Bored so I decided to have a go
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)20:49 No.13795874
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    Another ref
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)20:57 No.13795963
    Protip. Technomancer doesn't actually do requests. He draws only what he finds interesting. Enjoy his rendition of your shitty request, quit hoping he'll "fix" it for you, and be grateful he even drew it for you in the first place.
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)21:02 No.13796019
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    so basically, the only way to tell she's female will be her tits? Do you know where this might lead given my tendencies? I'm frankly sorry to say this, but obscuring the face and meking three dots for the eyes is something anyone with Mspaint (I think that includes you) could do. I'm getting tired, I barely managed to draw this for this thread (that is not about my drawfagging, unfortunately, but about this chapter)
    So sorry but nope.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)21:04 No.13796039
    >request Cultist-chan
    >receive Jeanstealer
    >just be happy with it you little shit
    Yeah, that makes sense.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)21:06 No.13796061
    This is either
    8/10 - would rage again
    or you should go back to tgchan.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)21:07 No.13796070
    Okay, I guess I can see where you're coming from, and I appreciate you doing all the hard work, but I'm not good with MSpaint or photoshop or anything else, and I don't think I can actually go to anyone else and request they change your work. It's been my experience that most artists are wary about that sort of thing.

    I do appreciate it, but it was a request of a specific character is all. So I hope you won't mind if I re-request this from another drawfag when the opportunity arises.

    Despite that, thanks again. I understand that you draw for yourself and that's probably the best way to remain sane in any request thread.
    >> Lord Faggotron III 02/05/11(Sat)21:08 No.13796082
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    I say, sir, that's just rude.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)21:12 No.13796125
    >but about this chapter
    If i understand this and you aren't to crazy about the chapter, what is it? I'm assuming the colors. The pictures are appreciated, thanks for them.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)21:12 No.13796129
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    No, faggots like you hassling drawfags is what makes them leave for greener pastures. I remember back when someone loosely interpreted a request, where if they drew it or not to begin with depended on either the ending of your post-count or a dice roll.

    And if they came even CLOSE to this idea you think is SOOO COOOL but that anyone else with half a brain fucking facepalms at so hard they give themselves a concussion, you accepted it and were HAPPY about it.

    Fucking spoiled ass brats. Get off my lawn.
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)21:13 No.13796140
    no problem with that, man, feel free to modify it all you want. I did it in hopes I could make something original, and the only funny thing I could add was the extra arms behind her back. So that's not like I'll go bitching around if someone else makes it better or even claim its property.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)21:14 No.13796152
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    What about the Chthonic tubes coming out of the face?
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)21:18 No.13796183
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    >claim its property
    Well to be honest even if I'm "Anonymous" I always kind of considered the idea for the character "mine" even though it's erroneous to try and claim anything done for 4chan. It's actually the main reason I made the request, which was tailored to the fact that she was later made into a semi-popular advice macro... or series of advice macros anyway.

    It's a pretty loose connection but I just figured one could kind of liken "psychiatry" to "advice".
    Please, this really isn't necessary.
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)21:21 No.13796222
    I really love this chapter, (just not the colours) and If I were more inspired, I'd draw more of them.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)21:21 No.13796223
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    I want to go ahead and clarify it's only the -idea- I mean and not the actual illustration, being that she was rendered by a talented and prolific old drawfag that /tg/ had, that used to kind of specialize in techpriests. He has a Deviantart somewhere, and I'd love to get him to do more, but I lost his site quite some time ago.

    He also drew these two, which is probably one of my favorite 40k illustrations out there.

    So I was extra-pleased when he decided to honor my request of the hooded, mostly cybernetic and faceless "creepy techpriestess".
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)21:23 No.13796243
    You know if you bothered to search for "techpriest" on Deviantart his work would probably pop up. Though only if it's less than six months old. Fucking DevArt bullshit.
    >> Technomancer 02/05/11(Sat)21:29 No.13796289
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    I see now, i thought it was just some random techpriestess, I didn't reckon she was the advice techpriestess.
    I saw the original art but didn't link it with the cropped-out head, probably because I always thought the latter was a male.

    Also, I was talking about the property of the drawing, not of the character

    Sorry, I didn't grasp the comical potential of this. I still find it quite scarce, but still.

    Have this.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)21:38 No.13796373
    Hey thanks!

    And I'm glad you got the joke. If even one person other than myself makes the connection, it makes it worthwhile.

    Thanks again! I'm definitely happy with this version.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)21:46 No.13796431
    You should go to bed, you're acting like a furfag.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)22:30 No.13796895
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    I kind of enjoy the quartered scheme, it's a better contrast than dull dark purple and dull navy blue.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)23:20 No.13797440
    Holy shit, that looks ace.

    Do we have any drawfriends around who'd like to take a more concrete stab at the chapter emblem? We could have this chapter fully up and running and ready to rampage through Dawn of War in no time.

    reminder that it's an aquila (or two headed owl - I see both as having tremendous symbolism in the chapter)
    clutching an hourglass and one of the bird's two heads is asleep.
    >> Anonymous 02/05/11(Sat)23:38 No.13797662
    Now switching my Howling Griffons to Emperor's Nightmare marines.

    >>tormakin Mental
    Shit is mental captcha
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)01:04 No.13798785
    Inception marines. Boom.

    "Inorder to beat the enemy, we must go deeper!"

    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)07:24 No.13801766
    This, I know it's a stealth chapter but they've got PRIDE in their colours damnit! Can you honestly have pride in a boring stealthy colour? fuck no! they're suppose to be FABULOUS!
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)07:40 No.13801864
    This thread has now resurrected my interest in this hobby.
    Will probably borrow this chapter and the yellow/purple paint scheme for my marines.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)10:04 No.13802908
    Only a few of them could really be called "inception marines"

    Most of the chapter just spends long times going crazy being awake and long times in a coma like sleep. Those who are sleeping often recieve prophetic dreams and of those who are receptive to those dreams some turn out to have latent psychic potential and it is those few who are selected by the librarians to train with them and the scholasta psykana to fight the daemons of the warp while asleep. Their ultimate goal being to slay the "after-image" of a daemon in the warp while it is manifested and distracted in the real world, thus slaying the daemon perminantly they believe, instead of merely banishing it back to the warp.

    Inception ain't got shit on that.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)10:10 No.13802949
    you don't seem to understand how literature works, do you
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    Two threads, two needlessly rude people. Still a good average but c'mon man. We were doing so well...

    Would you like to try again? What is your point?

    We're nearly autosaging. We don't have the time or space for troll posts and condescention. Please contribute if you choose to post.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)10:44 No.13803284

    Since things are still in the air regarding the exact color scheme, might I suggest the following tidbit of fluff?

    The council in charge of the chapter while the chapter master sleeps is called "The Wake". It is made up of the most senior marine currently awake at the Fortress-Monastery of Betten-Burgen, and usually includes at least one of the Venerable Dreamwalkers In Armor otherwise known as the chapter's dreadnoughts.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)11:06 No.13803483
    I like it. Especially since wake has so many conotations. In the "wake" of the chapter master's perminant sleep, those who are "wakeful" form the council etc etc blah blah. It works very well.

    Oh one thing guys: why is the chapter master asleep? He's a Raptor originally so he doesn't have the mutated catalpsean node. I submit that it was revenge from the Tzeentchian daemon he banished. One of his minions came back and cursed Randolph to eternal slumber or whatever. Sound good?

    We seem to have settled on the quartered purple and yellow scheme since people are already importing it into Dawn of War and since it is sufficiently "fabulous" plus the whole dreams + sand visual motif.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)11:14 No.13803550
    Oh snap, wait wait wait...

    What if it's one of those "I stole your soouuuul" kind of things?

    Like in addition to smiting daemons and whatever, part of the reason that the chapter trains dreamwalkers and that their psykers spend so much time in the warp, is that they're searching for the mind of their chapter master that was stolen from them by a daemonic servant of the prince. In over a thousand years of searching they have not managed to locate it but have accomplished many great deeds along the way.

    Awesome or clichéd crap? Or both?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)12:28 No.13804094
    I thought the reason the chapter master is asleep is because he's a dreadnought now, their whole thing being taking massive naps in between battle or story telling.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)12:37 No.13804150

    The chapter master is a dreadnought, yes. However, he never awakes. He shows vital signs, but all attempts to wake him fail.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)13:07 No.13804411

    yeah, but importantly none know why, everything else is only rumoured but can't be confirmed

    Is his trapped by the daemon prince? are they both locked in combat on the astral plane? etc.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)13:14 No.13804479

    Colours can also be interpreted as that of their banners.

    Stealth marines that take their banners (squad or otherwise) on whichever mission they go to?

    So when its time to burst out, all guns blazing, the enemy will see who exactly it is thats buttfucking them.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)13:24 No.13804564
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    Hmm. Personally, in the DoW2 engine, I like Abyss Purple and Abyss Orange colors better for the Nightmares -- simply because they look black as night until the light hits them just right, and then WHOA.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)13:39 No.13804703

    I have to say I do like the look of that, orange (gold) makes me think sun and morning whereas the purple make me think night, so work well.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)13:44 No.13804738
    >>13794735 here
    Give me 30 mins and i'll paint up a test model in this scheme, nice to know some people like it.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)14:09 No.13804986
    will take longer, blame the superbowl
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)14:31 No.13805191
    That does look great. My only vague complaint would be that the chapter doesn't really have anything to do with the sun per se, and that we sorta lose out on the sand motif. But that's nitpicky and the slight tweak to the colour scheme looks great.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)14:43 No.13805281

    I understand what your saying its just that for me the golden look, especially in >>13804564 makes me think of morning sun which symbolise waking for me. Against the purple which is more dream-esque and shadowy.

    anyhoo any drawfags willing to giver the chapter symbol ago, the extent of my drawfaggotry ends and mspaint unfortunately
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)14:50 No.13805339

    Anon from
    here, glad you like it!

    I took the liberty of setting up a 1d4chan page for us, but it's far from clean and I haven't combed the threads for all the ideas yet. I'd appreciate help.

    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)15:46 No.13805920

    Bumping with a try to combine the recent
    attempts into one. SMP doesn't have metallics, so no shiny shiny, but I think this gets close.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)15:47 No.13805923
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)15:47 No.13805928
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    Captcha ate my pic.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)16:06 No.13806148
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    I made your metallic scheme with the new beta painter, so we get to see a tactical marine instead of MISTA HAIRESY. What do you think?
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)16:08 No.13806165

    I think we hit autosage.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)16:12 No.13806215
    On the one hand I hate shiny paint with the burning passion of a thousand suns.

    On the other hand it kinda works.

    We sure did.
    >> Anonymous 02/06/11(Sun)16:33 No.13806462

    New thread at:


    Come on over, bring your ideas and color schemes!

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