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    1.11 MB Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:01 No.14029016  
    Tell me /tg/, what is the most memorable PC you have played with?

    In our current game we have a CG elven wizard with a rather cynical attitude about things. Also we have a "good" human blackguard PC who was in a slayer-like quest for "redemption". So she fights looking only for death. Both of these PCs are love rivals for the oblivious cleric PC, so they don't get along too well.

    In our last game the blackguard was standing in the edge of a cliff looking at the sunrise when the wizard comes over. The wizard asks the Blackguard why she wants to die so much, and the blackguard goes in angst mode and says her life is just torment because of her sins, and death will be her only rest. The wizard looks sympathetic and says "Are you serious?" and the blackguard simply nods and looks at the sunrise again. The wizard simply shrugs, says "ok" and pushes her over to a fall of a few hundred meters. Then simply walks back to camp and says to herself "Also that was for calling me pointy ears".

    The blackguard player wasn't happy at all, and she rolled several times to avoid death but got killed in the end. While it may sound kinda mean, it suits perfectly the "Dr. House" style personality of the wizard.

    What about you /tg/? Do you have an story to share?
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:04 No.14029040
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    >"Are you serious?" and the blackguard simply nods and looks at the sunrise again. The wizard simply shrugs, says "ok" and pushes her over to a fall of a few hundred meters.

    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:07 No.14029065
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    >memorable character

    >kills another PC just because LOL RANDUM

    I hope you and your whole group die in a fire
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:09 No.14029083

    >"Dr. House" style personality

    Oh god. I HATE that kind of players
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:11 No.14029093

    >Because LOLRANDOM
    >Did not read the post

    Cool story bro
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:11 No.14029096
    No. It wasn't fucking random at all. Totally dickish, maybe, but the other PC was LITERALLY asking for it.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:12 No.14029109
    >a CG elven wizard

    Not anymore she ain't.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:13 No.14029112

    >other PC was LITERALLY asking for it.

    Bullshit. The blackguard player was giving depth to his/her character. It was part of the fun, not a "please murder me in an unheroic way" request.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:13 No.14029113
    I think I hate both the characters in the OP.

    The Blackguard for all the angst, the wizard for having a "Dr. House" style personality.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:14 No.14029128
    LOL'd hard, OP.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:15 No.14029141
    >"Dr. House" style personality
    >/TG/: Raaaaaage

    What's the deal with that show, anyway? Is the draw just 'Dr. House is an abrasive jackass, but gets shit done'?
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:15 No.14029142
    Hardly, the character decided to be an angst machine and said they wanted to die. The wizard obliged the emo's request.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:15 No.14029143
    Agreed. Also, that was a pretty ridiculous thing for a Chaotic GOOD character to do. I always figured that killing an ally was somewhat evil...
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:16 No.14029151
    It's probably that house is a genuinely shitty person that they're not trying to play up as anything but a genuinely shitty person without him being a "HURR DURR" sort of shitty person.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:16 No.14029153
    Chaotic Good? Bullshit. An act like that is definitely Neutral Evil. A ruthless act which benefits only the player? Definitely fucking NE.
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    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:17 No.14029165
    It didn't benefit the character in any way and removed a great evil from the land (blackguards are automatically a great evil by their very nature).
    >> Kriegfag !!QEWNwMgB/Bs 02/24/11(Thu)20:18 No.14029176
    Wait, House wouldn't do something like that at all. He'd slam the Blackguard upside the head, tell her to fuck off and get over herself. Then, he'd go back to solving puzzles. Your player is just a fuck.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:18 No.14029177
    OP, I heartily approve of your story. Any player that makes a walking pile of angst for a character DESERVES to be punished for the decision. The fact that this punishment fit the crime only makes it all the more delicious.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:19 No.14029187
    House also doesn't make his living killing things and taking their stuff.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:19 No.14029190

    >While it may sound kinda mean, it suits perfectly the "Dr. House" style personality of the wizard.

    I don't recall any episodes where House murders someone.

    Also, calling someone an idiot is mean. Murdering someone is at least several orders of magnitude above that. You know, because people die when you kill them.

    Also, you're an idiot.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:19 No.14029191
    Uhhh.... read the OP again. "Love interest" "quest for redemption" "Rivalry". These ringing any bells? Look at that and tell me A) that fuckhead wizard didn't gain from it and B) the other PC deserved to die.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:20 No.14029203
    That's a good point too. Although in a recent episode it was revealed he did kill a cat in order to get Wilson laid. That's pretty damn dickish.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:20 No.14029211
    If he was trying to redeem himself, then he wasn't a blackguard. If he was a still blackguard, then at his core he was an evil pile of crap and deserved to die, regardless of what whining he threw out there.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:22 No.14029232
    Yes, because redemption is an instantaneous thing which instantly changes your "evil class." Um, wow. I don't want to know what your view on damnation is, because it's gotta suck.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:23 No.14029237
    I can see where you're coming from, but if that's the case, then why would the Wizard agree to work with the Blackguard in the first place? The Wizard is *still* killing an ally, and that's pretty fucking taboo at most tables/moral structures.
    >> Crimean Emperor !RZND91lf7s 02/24/11(Thu)20:23 No.14029239
    House has murdered at LEAST three people so far over the course of the show.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:24 No.14029249
    But it wasn't lolrandom....if anything it was nipping a shitty "OMGSOEDGYANDARKANDSPECIAL" character in the bud by masterfully exploiting a hole in their logic...I mean, they did say they wanted to die.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:24 No.14029250
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    In our game we have both a female blackguard and a female paladin PCs. They are only adventuring together because a greater power gathered several individuals for a quest, and it included these two.

    So, they can't stand each other and a few times they have nearly fought to death. Another player plays a halfling rogue who is the very definition of chivalrous pervert. He wishes the world was more peaceful and girls wore less clothes and were more "free". He likes both the blackguard and the pally, and always tries to have them be civil. Last game he got tired of them both and said he would make them stop hating each other and challenged both to a duel at the same time, then attack before they can even prepare.

    Now, this rogue is sort of a pacifist and has a custom feat against female foes where he can do non lethal attacks that instead strip naked the target, making them surrender. He does this on both of the other PCs much to their horror. The rogue rolls flawlessly against these two and the "battle ends" with both the pally and the blackguard naked, gagged and tied up together in a symmetrical docking position, as the rogue walked away saying he won't untie them until they agreed to behave.

    The rogue thought that maybe giving them a common target to hate would make them be friends, but the plan apparently backfired as now the pally thinks he is a pervert but is kinda tsundere and the blackguard simply got all love struck.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:25 No.14029256
    A teaspoon of sewage in a barrel of wine makes a barrel of sewage, a teaspoon of wine in a barrel of sewage makes a barrel of sewage.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:26 No.14029266
    The wizard probably agreed to work with the blackguard for sake of agreeing to work with the player. It was probably an out of game decision.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:27 No.14029277

    >If he was trying to redeem himself, then he wasn't a blackguard

    she was a blackguard by definition. Was good but used evil powers against other evil.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:27 No.14029286
    THAT'S your justification? Really? No, just no.

    Pushing an ALLY off a FUCKING CLIFF because of an insult and the threat they pose to your non-existent relationship is EVIL. Period.

    So if we go by your justification, the elf's the sewage.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:29 No.14029300
    lol your party's rogue is amazing
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:30 No.14029314

    I don't understand it. Why would the blackguard fall in love with a halfling that humillated her?

    The paly I can sort of imagine, but not the blackguard.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:31 No.14029319
    I don't know man, I could justify it.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:32 No.14029328
    Then, please, continue. I want to hear this.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:32 No.14029331

    Nonsense. The Elf asked. The Blackguard said yes.

    The elf was helping an ally to be free of her pain.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:32 No.14029335
    Not to put words in their mouths, but have you ever had a fetish?
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:34 No.14029357
    Wrong. "Quest for redemption" doesn't mean lie down and let someone push you off a cliff. The whole "life is pain" thing is the whole point. Suffer to expiate the sins. The elf wasn't helping anyone but herself.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:36 No.14029376

    Actually the love struck part came later. After being untied the paly ran away in embarrassment, but the blackguard was angry and wanted to know why he did that. Then said that if he wanted a "show" he should have just asked, just that the price would be his life.

    The rogue walks away and only stops to say "You are wrong. I wasn't aiming to remove the armor of your body. I aimed to the armor of your heart"

    The blackguard gets dumbfounded and then blushes red for first time in the whole game, and remains there just all stupified for like 10 mins.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:39 No.14029398
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    >"You are wrong. I wasn't aiming to remove the armor of your body. I aimed to the armor of your heart"
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:41 No.14029415
    I'm seconding this.

    > Dipshit McAnsgstfucker: OMG my life sucks I wanna die boohoo *ANGST* FML :(
    > Wizard: Here, let me fulfill your heart's desire and give you EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

    How the fuck is there a problem with giving someone exactly what they're asking for?
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:41 No.14029425
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    I would have punched that player if I had been playing the blackguard

    seriously, wtf? since when random asshattery is cool?
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    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:43 No.14029451
    Because that wasn't the POINT. The blackguard WANTED to suffer so that the sins she committed could be forgiven AND THEN she could find peace in death.

    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:43 No.14029452
    Heads up, I was a different fag.
    So they're a blackguard, a chaotic evil undefender of injustice.
    Now, said person has probably done terrible, unspeakable things in the past, right? Otherwise why redeem? I could go on a quest for redemption for cutting that guy off on my mourning drive, but that falls well within the range of melodrama and would fit in a more comedic campaign.
    Now, being a horrible monster like they were, it's debatable whether or not they are beyond redemption.
    They've been characterized as suicidal and bigoted. A chaotic good character could argue that it's well within their alignment to kill such an individual, correct?
    Now, I will agree that I don't think said PC would be considered good, but that falls with in the inherent problems of alignments in general:
    It's open to interpretation.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:44 No.14029457
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    >since when random asshattery is cool

    since ever?
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:45 No.14029459
    I think what's trying to be gotten at is that the Blackguard wants death through glorious battle to atone for their sins, not death through murder-by-an-ally-so-that-they-can-get-with-the-Cleric-but-probably-fail.

    Your party's rogue is brilliant, albeit a little strange.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:45 No.14029462
    Oh, I knew you were a different fag. But I did want to hear your argument.
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    >paladin and blackguard bondage with symmetrical docking
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:46 No.14029470
    YES. Thank you, that's exactly what I've been getting at.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:46 No.14029475
    And what did you think? It was more difficult to write that than you'd think.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:48 No.14029487

    That you are a fag, and the elf did something perfect within her character.

    But I agree that rogue is awesome
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:49 No.14029499
    I have played several characters who are memorable enough that my friends occasionally forget what's true about me, and what's true about my characters. It's kind of a running joke now, and no one's ever really sure when someone is serious or when they're just bugging me.

    For example, we were playing a gangers campaign in Shadowrun. My character was a devout orthodox Jew who spouted Bible quotes whenever he offed someone, tried to convert the other gangers, et cetera. Everyone knows I'm not Jewish, but every once in a while some religious question will come up and someone will start, "ask Anon, he's Jewi--oh, wait, he's not."

    My next character was a Japanese dude who pretended to adhere to a strict code of honour (but really didn't). So now apparently I have some Japanese blood in my ancestry. Jewish Japanese blood, I guess. I was introduced to a friend of a friend, and he looked surprised and said, "Oh, I've heard about you. You're from Japan, right?"

    Apparently I'm also skilled in pruning plants (character was a gardener by trade) and used to write for a newspaper (character was a reporter). And I have a thing for redheads (had a cleric who did).
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:49 No.14029501
    But I agreed with you!
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:51 No.14029522
    >And I have a thing for redheads (had a cleric who did).
    Oh, but so do you.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:52 No.14029530
    Well, you're point about them being bigoted is based off of a one-off comment, which is all we know about that. Given the scarcity of info on that, I'm going to lay that aside.

    However, YES, I can see your point regarding the killing the 'ex'-monster because of their previous crimes.

    HOWEVER, we don't know if the elf even KNEW about those previous crimes. All we know is that a wizard pushed a ally and romantic rival off a cliff. Looking at that action, it is an undoubtedly EVIL act.

    So, that's the thrust of my argument. Really the blackguard only exists in my argument as the victim, but really, any PC would do. It's the actions taken by the wizard that I'm judging her by.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:52 No.14029532
    >So they're a blackguard, a chaotic evil undefender of injustice.

    Isn't that a double negative? Isn't undefending Injustice the same as defending justice?
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:54 No.14029553
    He was probably trying to point out that AS a CE character, she probably wasn't DEFENDING much of anything
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:55 No.14029558

    Not really. Is like these Space Marines from 40K who became severely mutated/corrupted by Chaos, but at heart and soul they remain loyal to the emperor, so they fight Chaos looking for death to atone for their mutations.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:55 No.14029560
    Apparently /tg/ is fond of walking angst piles. I'm guessing most of /tg/ thinks Sasuke was a good character.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:57 No.14029580
    Isn't the entire fucking point of the blackguard being an embodiment of evil? If you aren't an embodiment of evil, you aren't a fucking blackguard. Just like how if you aren't an embodiment of good, you aren't a fucking paladin.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)20:59 No.14029614
    A friend of mine played a grizzled ex-soldier from pseudo-Byzantium, and was a pretty standard fantasy character. The memorable part was that he was constantly terrified by his fellow PC's behaviour. He noticed three main things; they never try diplomacy, they never wash, and they never, ever sleep. Not once, in the whole campaign, did anyone actually stop and eat, or talk about their day, or even crack a joke. The only reason he was still with them was because he was afraid of what they'd do to him if he ran away.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:01 No.14029630
    Actually, I hate Sasuke. But mainly because his issues in no way excuse his actions, and he acts like they do.

    If they're on "a quest for redemption," obviously the feel they fucked up and are trying to be better. That being said, they're probably also punishing themselves for what they did BEFORE that realization. So, yes, there was melodrama involved with the Blackguard. Still not a reason to drop her off a fucking cliff.

    And how many paladins actually PLAY like an embodiment of good? Redemption takes time. You don't instantly go from "YEAH KILL RAPE BURN FOR TEH EVULZ" to "SAINTLY SAINT OF SAINTNESS" overnight, and you don't change from a blackgueard to a pally overnight either.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:02 No.14029642
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    >Apparently /tg/ is fond of walking angst piles

    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:02 No.14029647
    Fuck. *blackguard
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:02 No.14029651
    You do however fall from being a paladin pretty instantaneously. I don't see why it would be any different for a blackguard.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:04 No.14029664

    >It is easy to go to jail if I murder someone, so I bet is just as easy to walk out of jail, right?

    Go choke on a dick
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:04 No.14029668
    So do fallen paladins instantly become blackguards then? To me, your argument is "If she's not a blackguard, she's a pally. No middle ground." If there are fallen paladins who aren't blackguards, there can be fallen blackguards who aren't paladins.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:05 No.14029680
    A bit crudely put, but otherwise well said.
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    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:30 No.14029961
    did something similar to with an angsting drow

    Minor difference: I was playing a neutral evil necromancer at that time and I really needed a new ghoul butler
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:36 No.14030022
    Exactly. Neutral Evil.
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    I'm fairly new to rpgs, but out of the few that I have and the characters, my current dark heresy character is proving to be the most interesting/memorable.

    Which is ironic, because I didn't like the idea of the game or the system, and we didn't expect the game to last, just something to run for a game or two during the interval. So I made a female character and didn't really take it seriously.

    And yet despite it all, as said, she's proven to be the most interesting character I've done, as well as the game as a whole being our most interesting.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:41 No.14030083
    Tell us about your character! Why is she interesting?
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    Oh. Well she started out as a Catachan jungle fighter type. After distinguishing herself in the field by pure luck I think, she got picked up by an Inquisitor. She traveled around with him for awhile, and despite the whole grimdark everything, he more or less showed her the wonders of the universe and made her slowly shed the beliefs indoctrinated in her that the universe is a cold and cruel place.

    Eventually though he was more and more suspected of treason (he had dealt frequently with the Eldar in the past, possibly present), and so she was approached by a more radical and higher ranking inquisitor. Because she was close to him, he offered her either to kill him herself, or the whole group would die. So yeah, that was the start of the downward spiral, where in a tragic scene she had to kill her teacher and idol, whom more or less raised her.

    For her service she was picked up by the new inquisitor, and regaled as a hero recieving medals and shit for taking down a "rogue heretic inquisitor" by herself, and was made to give speeches and denounce him publicly and on trail and stuff, as well as point out people he'd had contact with (people she'd come to befriend and care for as well).

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    So she tooled around with the new inquisitor, having to perform typical inquisition duties till most if not all traces of her former mentor were erased, then right up and then they were sent to a Kreig besieged planet. So ensues lots of horrible fighting and brutal war horrors and all that manner of cheery subjects. Still though she further distinguished herself and received recognition from Kreig command, and allowed to fight with them if ever she found herself able. As well she was granted some advanced grenadier armor as thanks.

    Then she had to watch as the planet was nuked and glassed with all her new comrades still on it, in a hasty move ordered in part by the Inquisitor when the warring below stumbled across some alien thing (Necron or daemon artifact, not sure, as upon the reports the planet was bombed).
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:58 No.14030287
    Being a blackguard isn't being in jail, dumbass. It's being granted unholy powers by evil entities in the service of evil. It makes no sense they'd continue to grant you those powers if you weren't serving evil anymore.

    No, thick shit flavored smoothie. The argument is that if she isn't evil she isn't a blackguard. If she is a blackguard,
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:59 No.14030307
    This is a pretty excellent story. Thanks!
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)21:59 No.14030308
    Got distracted and posted too early.

    If she is a blackguard, she has to be an evil shitpile to be a blackguard.
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    So after playing a hand in killing her new allies, things moved on to the next place which is the subject of the most recent games. Namely routing out some "heresy" in a sector. More of the same old, atrocities and horrors, many of which she was made to carry out.

    Most recently, she was put in charge of an investigation force, and while they stumbled upon a hq of the "heretics", she attempted to resolve it peacefully or with minimum casualties. Instead her orders were twisted and replaced with an Eversor, which resulted in the deaths of pretty much everyone. Including the Schola Progenium facilities under which the hq was situated. So yeah, lots of dead orphan children.

    As of current game, I'm considering having her commit suicide. She's already plagued with a myriad of problems and guilt, it seems like the logical way for her to go.

    It's so horrendously grimderpy, but the story and the roleplaying involved has been the most interesting I've seen/done. Isn't 40k great?

    >Pic related, with the Krieg advanced grenadier armor pretty much what she looks like. Also what I play her like, pretty much an NCR Ranger
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:03 No.14030354
    Okay, let's go with your evil shitpile theory. If she's allied with a good party, as the wizard is described as, then she's never committed an evil act that they would know about.

    Therefore, the elf pushed her off a fucking cliff because she felt like it.

    The blackguard doesn't matter for the purpose of the argument as anything except the victim plot device. The elf murdered an ally. That is an EVIL act. Period.
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    Forgot to put cont. at the second part, sorry.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:06 No.14030389
    It doesn't necessarily mean that the party doesn't know she committed an evil act. They may have seen her do some quite horrible things in the past and decided to help her redeem herself. The party may have had mixed opinions on allowing that and the elf may indeed have disagreed.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:06 No.14030390

    She was a blackguard. That means good guys can freely kill her. It is a damn Tolkien-ish rules.

    Orcs and evil men have no rights
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:07 No.14030408
    Being a blackguard is less like being an evil person and more like being a living embodiment of evil. It's not slaying an orc for no reason, it's slaying a demon without needing a reason to slay a demon.
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    It's not evil to kill a sworn servant of the gods of baby-raping and puppy-drowning. You could slit his throat in his sleep and Torm would just give you a high-five.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:13 No.14030474
    Except that's patently untrue. If the bounds of the class conflict with the character, one would generally expect for the character's RP to be favored.

    So, if she WAS a living embodiment of evil, she wouldn't be searching for redemption, now, would she?
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:15 No.14030491
    Yeah, that's what I hate about character restrictions. "Oh, you're an evil class, so you're EVIL, EVIL, EVIL and are SO CARTOONISHLY EVIL and there's NO REDEMPTION and you can't do ANYTHING about it"
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:15 No.14030496
    If she was searching for redemption, she wouldn't be a blackguard. Much like a paladin that took up committing evil wouldn't be a paladin.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:19 No.14030539
    No one said that there's no redemption, but the idea that the evil powers are going to keep granting you your abilities while you're off working against their aims is pretty stupid.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:22 No.14030573
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    >Commissar, I became a servant of Chaos but now I want redemption. Can I join the Imperial Guard again?

    Pic related, the elf wizard did the right thing and deserves marrying the cleric in a white wedding dress
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:22 No.14030579
    Lathander would give you a high five, Torm would call you a pussy for not defeating him in fair combat, he is the god of paladins and his most famous exploit is challenging the god of LULZEVIL (Bane) to a fair fight and slaying him.

    Though to be fair, that's not saying much because Bane was the lamest of the dead three and the only reason he's back now is because they needed an obvious bad guy who's not good for anything outside of being foiled.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:24 No.14030602
    Did the OP ever say she still had her powers? She might have been counted as a blackguard, because, "hey, complete your quest for redemption and sink those levels into pally" and just never altered the class or multiclassed.
    >> CĂș AirĂșath Siblaid 02/24/11(Thu)22:24 No.14030607
    >Memorable PC

    Bright Justice.

    Bright Justice once killed 25 orcs with a single punch.
    ...he punched a battering ram.

    Bright justice once healed a church full of wounded civilians.
    ...by punching himself slowly apart with negative energy and turning it into commensurate positive energy to heal them.

    Bright Justice once made a 5000 year-old nymph fall in love with him.
    ... ...she later gave up immortality just to finally really live and see the world outside her glade, traveling with him.

    Bright Justice stopped the avatar of god from committing suicide.
    ...over the unrequited schoolgirl crush she had on him.

    Bright Justice had a fanclub of squealing teenage peasant girls who all were convinced he was a knight no matter how many times he told them he had no title of any sort.
    ...they all had little stuffed ragdolls in his likeness.

    I think subconsciously, I just yearn to play characters as mindblowingly fuck-awesome as that and so constantly strive to live up to that legendary bro of a player.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:31 No.14030703
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    >OP's pic

    >a Jewish wizard
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:37 No.14030775
    Hm. Is it just me or were the laws in judaism written by a wizard?
    Books are some of the most sacred objects, and destroying a book is one of the grave sins.
    If there's no other (jewish) lives at stake, it's said that if your house is burning down you should save as many of your books as you can.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:45 No.14030838
    What? Why are you committing suicide? If anything you should now be working against the Rogue Inquistor who has caused you so much misery and woe.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:50 No.14030900
    That's... sad. Now I feel all mopey inside. Why didn't you work with your inquistor against the radical inquisitor who threatened him?
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)22:52 No.14030925
    Books were pretty expensive and important back then.There were also, you know, the Tanakh (or whatever it is) and the histories of their people, so I could see why they wanted them preserved.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)23:04 No.14031079
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    ...meh. You want Greenmarine for this.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)23:08 No.14031123
    Probably my Eclipse Phase character who suffered from sociopathy, but refused to cure it as he wouldn't understand any other method of thinking.

    He gets followed around by the female character who doesn't seem to understand that he's mentally ill, as opposed to her just thinking he's anti-social.

    He eventually grows to 'appreciate' her (by that, he just didn't tell her to go away everytime she showed up to his room.).

    So after one mission, she catches a strain of exsurgent virus which begins to entirely wipe out her cortical stack.

    He takes her back (much to the rest of the team's chagrin) to see if anything can be done. Turns out nothing can be done, obviously, and he's stood in the doorway while she's sat screaming that she couldn't remember her own name.

    She elected not to have plot armour fix her character, because it was too good a moment.

    He just sort of stood there and watched, stone-faced.

    It was depressing, and I went home and drank afterwards.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)23:29 No.14031402
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    Because the radical Inquisitor was distinctly more powerful and had more support, so going against him would if not resulted in immediate death, then treason and eventual. A number of people wanted the old kind Inquisitor out of the way, and they sent this guy to do it.

    When the old inquisitor found out, he let my character kill him. He realized he'd gone too far away from the rules, even if that's how he believed things should be, but he didn't want to take anyone else with him. Otherwise my character would never had stood a chance against him, if he actually tried to fight back.

    So when she tried to kill him, she tried to keep her motives secret and not give herself away. Eventually he made clear that he knew what was going on and he accepted it. His only offered some reassuring words before the end, as she fought through the tears to shoot him in some filthy back alley like a dog.

    And so that was the old Inquisitor's end, supposedly killed by muggers in the shady part of town one night. An inglorious and disgraceful death. But the new radical guy knew the truth, and so did my character.


    As for suicide, I figure it's just part of her character. More and more she's drawn between what her old mentor taught her, and what the Imperium requires of her. It's becoming too much, so suicide seems like the reasonable course she would take.

    I mean I'm not 100% sure I will, but it seems an appropriate end. Perhaps in her room after the next ceremony where she will be awarded and regaled as an even greater hero of the Imperium than before, more or less for the act of killing children.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)23:39 No.14031510
    I dunno man. You're a Catchian. When life throws problem in your face, you don't surrender. You get mad!
    You get cunning!
    You turn the heat of your pain and agony to forging a blade of hatred!
    You plan, and wait- for even the greatest of monsters has a weakspot that the patient hunter can exploit
    You survived tarasaurs, barking toads, and all manner of horrible mindless beasts growing up, and not only that, hunted them. Just think of the radical inquistor as sport of a large game. And if you must go out- wouldn't you rather go out fighting, gouging out the eyes of your foe, even as you bleed. He may yet survive, but he will never forget you and the pain you have visited on him.
    From hells heart you must stab at him, for spites sake grapple with him to the last!
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)23:45 No.14031583
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    Well the only problem in doing that, is that my character would be alone in attacking the Inquisitor, the other group members like working for him.

    They've been able to shed their moral senses in favor of rewards and the like.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)23:49 No.14031612
    Snipe him. Car bomb him.
    Find another Inquisitor who maybe liked your mentor and hates this guy. Tell him you'll be his triggerman, remove a rival. If you die, he loses nothing, if you live you have a boon coming your way.

    And if you have to die, take the fucker out with you. Go out like Leon. But in this case, a Krieger jacket, the inside lined with grenades.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/11(Thu)23:53 No.14031664
    So? Since when have superior numbers ever dissuaded a beserking feral worlder?
    I'm not saying you need to go and attack this guy the next time you see him. Plan. Work out his weaknesses. Find his enemies. Find his weaknesses. Find his needs and plans and wants. Exploit them.
    Look to your former allies- see what makes them tick. Get them back on your side by appealing to their own private dreams.
    If your acolytes have become so mercenary that they no longer care for morals or integrity, then it should be easy to play to their greed to side with you. Promise them that, if the DickInquistor was killed- one of them would be able to assume his mantle, and the others free to plunder his vast stores. I'm sure he has enemies in the holy ordos who would support you in this gambit. Hell, who knows, survive long enough and play your cards right, it could be you who ends up the inquisitor.
    Or dead. But the important thing is that you would be hurting someone who had cost you almost everything.
    >> CA 02/24/11(Thu)23:55 No.14031682
    Wow man... That's... really sad. I probably would have drank too.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:02 No.14031754
    Did you retards not read the part where the Blackguard said that her "life is just torment because of her sins, and death will be her only rest"?

    The Chaotic Good character just gave the Blackguard the rest from torment she was yearning for, completely understandable from a CHAOTIC Good mindset.
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    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:07 No.14031803

    Ahem. To summarize- as the famous Welsh poet Dylan Thomas once said
    "Do not go gently into that good night/rage rage rage against the dying of the light."
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:12 No.14031844
    If she was good (I mean really good) she would have pushed the Blackguard off the cliff-
    and then would have caught her by the hand, leaving her gently suspended over the towering peripice, wind blowing her this way and that. She would look down, voiced raised over the wind, and ask her.
    "Is this what you want? If I let go now, I'm pretty sure I can angle your descent so that you snap your neck on a rock. Completely painless. And if it isn't- well, I'll never know. So let me her it- one more time: Do you want to die?"
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:13 No.14031849
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    I'll probably do that then.

    I think the only problem is that, even with the Inquisitor bumped off, another will probably take his place. Or even if it works out well for me/us, it's not so much the Inquisitor that is the antagonist to my character, it's the Imperium itself, and it's ways. A man I can kill, but changing the Imperium is something else.

    I'll still try to kill the guy though. The tehcpriestess will probably be interested. She's the only other person left around from the old days (when the original party started).
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:19 No.14031919
    Fuck. If you want to change the way the Imperium works, then your overall goal should be to supplant the Inquisitor and to become one yourself. That's the only sure way of changing the way the Imperium works. Let's face it- Warhammer is a messed up universe, and it will always be filled with justice, travesty, and horror. But an an inquisitor you'd be able to affect a small part of that, and change it for the better. The way your original Inquistor would have wanted. It's obvious that he intended for you to follow in his footsteps- grooming you to the part.
    And this experience with the Dickinquistors (Or Dikquistor as he will be known here after) will be enough to show you how the Grimderp parts of the imperium work, and how to work within it's confines- to know how to beat it, how to use it for your own ends, and, above all else, to know that, as much as you want too, some things you can never change.
    Find purpose in the carnage. Gain power. Forge alliances. Ascend.
    Make the Galaxy a better place.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:24 No.14031983
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    That's certainly ambitious and something I can aspire to. I'm not sure I can play it well enough, my character is just a hardened, decorated soldier rather than a leader or changer. As in, given that situation I believe some of the others in the party would try to take the spot. But I figure I can try, it's worth a shot.

    In relation to the old mentor though he'd have wanted to leave. One of his main focuses was studying humans outside of the Imperium, whom had been cut off or had never been discovered before, and had a belief in rumors that some humans had split off during some sort of dark ages or something and left this galaxy behind.

    But that's even less likely than to take the role of Inquisitor and exercise a softer hand against threats.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:25 No.14031989
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    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:29 No.14032033
    Well the more important thing, I think, is to take it one step at a time
    Point out an overarching goal- in this case, make the Imperium of Man less shitty.
    Then look at your surroundings and situation, and ask yourself what would be the first step down that path- in this case the removal of dickinquistor from the situation.

    If you don't think your character is cut out to be an inquistor- well that's something to worry about later. Perhaps someone else would be more suited for the title. Perhaps not.
    The important thing is that you have something to work towards now, and are no longer the pathetic play thing of some shadowy asshole with unreasonable amounts of power
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:30 No.14032055
    You said you were new to Dark Heresy, correct? Have you looked at some of the expansion books, like Inquisitors Handbook, or Ascension?
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:36 No.14032111
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    Friends character. Nobleborn psyker. Total blue-blooded asshole. Our =][= duties took us to his home system, and he found that his father (who ran their merchant house) was in a hospital at the moment, so he took over the noble house, and (quite messily) wiped out a competitor and rival family.

    His father, when he eventually found out about Jastilus' 'success', went ballistic. (About as much as a moderately-emotionless techpriest can.). Went on about how their duty was to the people of the hive-spire, and how his senseless and callous annihilation of another noble house had undoubtedly killed thousands of the people he was supposed to serve! Went on about Noble Obligations, and all that. [To his kill tally, he HAD blown up the enemy family's hive-spire, causing it to collapse into the hive.]

    His father starts building up towards banishment, "You are no son of mine!", and all that. Meta-game wise, the GM was assuming that Jastilus would kill his father, and take over the house. He even had a whole plot planned out for him!

    Jastilus, instead, went, "You truly never want to see me again, father? Very well... That can be arranged." Then pulled out his hell pistol, and blew his own brains out. The player proceeded to destroy his character sheet, too.

    I consider him a memorable party member.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:36 No.14032122
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    Well currently I just act as his poster child; I make public appearances, his successes are attributed to me (even the atrocious ones), and he has me lead his personal forces when in the field. Like that investigation I mentioned earlier.

    He favors a heavy hand though, so when I advise retreat or consideration of the situation, he orders a bombing or a mad bloody charge, etc... They usually always work out because we usually only get involved with things like insurrection or chaos taint, so he's billing me up as some grand hero saving the Imperium through battle and slaughter while he appears a peaceful yet effective saint.

    I'm not sure why though, but it certainly makes things easier for my character, at least in terms of position and privileges. As mentioned though, the attributed guilt and lies are eating away at her.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:39 No.14032150
    Well, if you want you should definately look into uniting factions. Your most likely pillar of support is the Cogboy (Or girl) you said?
    That's a good place to start. The Adeptus Mechanicus look after their own. Unless they're a heretek (And, by heretek, I mean, unless the AM Know that he's a heretek) you could be able to swing for their support
    You should see about getting into contact with the Kriegers- they're probably pissed about loosing men on that planet.
    Who else can you go to in this situation? Any enemies the INquistor has that you wouldn't mind working with? Any old ones from your previous Inquistor that haven't been killed?
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:42 No.14032180
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    No, I haven't seen any of that.

    I've been going off of what playing the game itself has taught me and what the DM and others have told me. Maybe that's why I/my character are easy to manipulate, but I think I like that as just another aspect of the character, willing to follow orders.

    Like those Battle Sister, the women in power armor approached my character, but the Inquisitor stepped in to disallow it, and the others said it wouldn't be a good idea to join them.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:43 No.14032184
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    >Implying Kriegers would work against the Imperium because they lost men.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:43 No.14032186
    She could probably get some Catachans to join up with the cause. A-team style. Unless I'm wrong, they look after their own, and an Inquisitor this rogue and vile is worse than some Schola Commissar trying to come in and ruin the party.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:43 No.14032191
    Death Korpsmen pissed about casualties? Son, you don't know much about the children of Krieg, do you?
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:46 No.14032237
    Wait, this Inquisitor dropped an EVERSOR on a fucking SCHOLA PROGENIUM??!!! Is he fucking retarded?

    That sector's gonna be hurting for Arbitrators, Commissars, Stormtroopers and Battle Sisters for YEARS to come. Schola's are some of the most important places in the verse. Shit.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:51 No.14032285
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    Well it's important to note that the Inquisitor isn't rogue. He sticks as staunchly as possible to the doctrines, and simply is cruel and merciless as much as he can be to the extent of his position.

    At least, that's how I understand it.


    Yes, the techpriestess would likely support killing of the Inquisitor.

    As for anyone else, immediate allies for this cause look thin. The new Inquis. was very thorough in doing away with any vestiges of the old, even people we had met in passing or talked to at some time beforehand.

    I might be able to muster up some old war buddies though, although I don't know how I would be able to get that past the Inquis. or get them into our group.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:51 No.14032287
    ....Yeah, they have been definitely dicking you over.
    Here, I'll get you the links for important things you'll need to know, and some supplemental fluff.
    Also- the sisters of battle are awesome, and would have made good allies. You should see about getting into contact again if that's possible.
    Core Rule Book:
    Fluff Bible:
    Inquisitors Handbook:
    Blood of Martyrs:

    You should read the Core Rulebook and the Inquistors Handbook, skim the fluff bible, and look through the Blood of Martyrs. It should help clear things up.
    Ascension is for when characters live long enough to hit rank eight, and essentially become fully fledged members of the inquisition themselves
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:54 No.14032317
    My most memorable character is my Warlord/Cleric Tobias Brackner.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:57 No.14032356
    Wow. That was pretty deep.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:58 No.14032362
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    I had ordered one of those sniper assassins, to kill the leader of the lot. From intel we gained, that would cripple them enough that they would at least negociate or even surrender.

    When the Inqis. got word of the situation though, he altered my report to request an Eversor, disregarding pretty much everything else about the situation. They were heretics and needed to die. But then so did by extent everyone else in the situation, including those not associated with the rebels.

    Like I said, we went in after expecting to be able to solve things peacefully, but the hammer had been dropped. A scene of note as my character walks into the place afterward to see all the dead children. She spent several hours digging their graves herself as the others on the scene celebrated and congratulated the Inquis.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)00:59 No.14032383
    Hmm. HERO OF THE IMPERIUM can work pretty well in most situation in gaining allies. You should get respect.
    And if he is making as big as waves as you said, he should be picking up notice from other members of the Adeptus and the Holy Ordos. Most of them are going to be suspicious of him- even if he does come off as a saint in public, they should probably have the connections to know, or at least suspect, what's really going on. And they really really hate people who rock the boat, or threaten to upset the balance of power.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:01 No.14032407
    No, I understand where you're coming from there. It's just... this Inquisitor has crossed the GRIMDERP event horizon. He callously ignored precious future resources (Progenium cadets) in order to make sure EVERYTHING DIED.

    I HATE IT when Inquisitors are played that way, because it shows a real lack of appreciation for the future problem their actions will create. Which, of course, is probably the point of said characterization.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:07 No.14032476
    Snipey ones are called Vindicares.
    And really- they were congratulating this idiot for ham handedly destroying everything rather then apply the right amount of pressure to ensure the outcome of his goals?
    Are you sure this guy is an inquisitor? Most of the stupidly purge 'n burn ones generally get killed off while they're still Acolytes.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:07 No.14032479
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    Well it's not like either of us are the next Emperor. He's just another high up Inquisitor who gets things done, despite his outward appearance of favoring diplomacy and resolution. So I don't think he's really making waves, just keeping the system well-run. In the way he's playing it, my character will become more well-known than him before long if not already, again he plays things by the book I believe.


    Well I'm just glad he didn't nuke the planet.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:10 No.14032504
    Oh sure, he's not making any outward motions of gaining power- but resst assured that those people in the know are probably following his zealous career with interest, waiting to see where exactly this bright star will burn out.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:12 No.14032525
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    Well it wasn't put out that he killed off loads of innocents. Or that, it was just claimed they were actually in on the heresy.

    All that was made clear was that there was an assortment of rather dangerous rebels in this sector, and that my character crippled them with a shock and awe attack by an Eversor. The actual truth wasn't made clear or if it was, it was downplayed or ignored.

    Again keep in mind that if anyone is to be suspected of wrongful acts it'll be my character, because the Inquis. is having me take all the credit. In the public eye, he's really just acting as my chauffeur getting me around to problems he things needs my "expertise".

    So far though, things haven't gone badly for me, so neither for him. I suppose if something goes really bad, he can just pin it on me as well though.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:16 No.14032567
    Yeah, so basically, this guys the Chessmaster. Are you sure he's not a Tzeentchian a la Ramius Stele?

    It's just that the problems he's created with that one single action will affect much, much more than the entirety of the problem he was solving. Schola cadets are the elite of the Imperium's fighting forces (except for Astartes, obviously) and are worth their weight in fucking gold. That he just callously sacrificed all of them seems legitimate grounds for an investigation, much less censure.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:18 No.14032586
    What rank are you?
    Also- you have read the core rulebook, right?
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    This guy, actually.
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    Well then the bricks will be dropped on me. I'll see if I can't get some proof that he did it though, as you say it should put him in hot water.


    If I was still in the guard, they tell me I'd be around Colonel, maybe higher considering what happens at the upcoming award ceremony.

    And I've scanned through the book, but not read it thoroughly.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:25 No.14032650
    No, I mean what Rank are you- it sounds like you're around five or six.
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    Oh I'm rank five last I checked, but I think it's mostly because of the DM pushing me forward. I mean there have been battles but I don't think I've done nearly enough fighting to get as far as currently, it's mostly from the situation and roleplaying. Which humorously enough isn't my strong point, if I had one.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:29 No.14032698
    If you want to take him down- expose him as a heretic, or frame him if you can- you'll need to start collecting evidence. Records of everything you do. Your techpriestess friend will help in this respect, since she can essentially be turned into a walking talking recorder.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:31 No.14032710
    Had a player recently go for the paladin concept. Human paladin, seemed kind of generic, but oh mah gawd the way he played it. It was the way a paladin really should be played, like some badass mix of Captain America, Optimus Prime and Superman, with a bit of Kamina thrown in. And the dude just would not quit.

    Most memorable occasion (for me) would have been when the party was slowly drowning in a magical trap, so in order to save them, he chopped a hole in the side/roof of the trap, and willingly let his own air expire in order to make sure the rest of the party escaped. Held his breath for something like five or six minutes before he finally succumbed and drowned.

    Anyway, the others all dragged him out of the pit and managed to revive him via CPR (Heal checks). Upon being told that there was a group of monsters approaching from the other end of the dungeon (since they'd gotten past the trap) that would almost certainly see them all dead, he got up, collected his sword, and started jogging towards them (with only about 5 or 6 HP). The rest of the party said that maybe he'd had enough for one day, and he could retreat with them, regroup and return later.

    He just said "Nope. Paladin." And then kept on jogging towards the enemy. His player wound up fighting a valiant rearguard action that was so devastating the party (upon returning) realised that most of those terrifying monsters were in fact already dead and gone, victims of the unholy (perhaps "holy" would be the better term there...) slaughter that had been inflicted on them. And buried under a pile of corpses, very much dead, was the paladin.

    We were all rather sad to see him go, but the player decided that he didn't want that character to come back and rolled up a new one (rather than spoil the sacrifice).
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    Ok I'll keep that in mind. I think he could be framed as one of those planning heretics, that try to change things.

    That is, if he isn't one already.

    The question is then though, assuming we get him out of the picture, what stops them from breaking us up and putting me back with the guard? In what way can we stick together as a group serving the inquisition, without an Inquisitor, or become one? Assuming they don't bring in a new one of course.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:38 No.14032776
    Guys is it really an evil act to murder someone who had JUST sincerely told you, essentially, "Every waking moment of my life is pure anguish and death is the only release."?

    That's sounding kind've merciful to me. Atleast neutral.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:38 No.14032779
    Well, if you're the ones that brought the evidence to light, there's a couple of options:

    A) The BAD Ending. Upon deciding you were to close to this heretic for coincidence, you're executed. Don't want that and probably not going to happen.

    B) The Investigating Inquisitor checks you for taint and upon deciding you're clean, adopts your team wholesale, because if you can expose a rogue Tzeentchian Inquisitor while working under his nose, you can do damn near anything

    C) Pretty much the same as option B, except you're adopted as an Interrogator with your team now reporting to you

    D) You're seconded back to the Guard. As a Hero of the Imperium, you'd probably end up in charge of a regiment. Expect your old allies to come knocking whenever they need some serious firepower
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:39 No.14032792
    Because the elf wasn't doing it to free her. The elf was doing it because she didn't like the blackguard and wanted to get in the cleric's pants.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:40 No.14032793
    They'll either bring in a new one or one of you will have to become one. It's an honor unwise to refuse.

    High doubts they'd split you up or put you back in the guard, you're a highly skilled individual and you're a skilled Throne Agent. They're more likely to bring you into their fold for destroying a corrupt member, especially if you only make sure the proper channels know.

    No need for mass hysteria afterall.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:40 No.14032795
    If you manage to succesfully bring an inquisitor. Goddamn, they'll be fighting over you in the tricorn palace.
    I really don't think you'll be wanting for jobs after this, if everything goes right.
    Check some of the premade inquisitors - the arbites one will probably welcome you with open arms into her retinue
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    Those all seem good, thanks I'll see if I can't work those out. C) seems the best, intent-wise, but B) probably would be better for now.

    D) is funny though, one of the guys in the group said that he'd make a model for the 40k game of my character, if she got to General (or a rank that warrants having a position as unique high-rank character for the guard).
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:47 No.14032891
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    Know how I would have handled that as a DM?

    Blackguard is saved by a Pterodactyl.

    Blackguard now has a Pterodactyl familiar.

    Moving on......

    That's how I deal with stupid unfunny PC's and their bad attitudes.

    House disapproves.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:48 No.14032894

    I don't see where this is implied. Yes it's entirely possible but they have a legit 'moment' where the wizard looks sympathetic and asks "Are you serious?" as if to gauge that this was truly what they wanted.

    It's not as if the wizard ran out and saw an opportunity to push someone off a cliff and kill them to go fuck the cleric, you're reading very selectively into this.

    The circumstances behind this act don't necessarily make it evil or even selfish. The fact that a rival had been removed is coincidental. Perhaps the thought crossed the wizard's mind, but people don't necessarily think in 20/20 hindsight in situations. People react to things with the information that they have onhand at that given moment unless they honestly take a moment to stop and consider. This seemed to be an impulsive act done because the Blackguard had just spilled out their heart and basically ASKED FOR DEATH.

    PC killings by other PCs is generally speaking territory that one shouldn't cross into, but this situation, in character was justified; and out of character was ... hilarious.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:50 No.14032913
    Obviously, we're going to have to agree to disagree on this, because I'm reading the situation in the exact opposite way.

    I took the blackguard to be talking about her suffering as a meaningful thing. Pain to purify, and all that, right? Searching for redemption.

    You can't find redemption if you just give up.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:52 No.14032926

    They hadn't really given up though, the situation was taken out of their hands once they were pushed off the cliff.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:52 No.14032934
    Derek the Cleric. No, really. Derek was a simple cleric of Kord. Not very bright, not very agile, and to be honest, not really that pretty. But he was tough, wise like the salt of the earth can be and had a grip that could crack walnuts. He started life as a farmer. And I kid you not, 3 levels of commoner. Then he gets a case of God. Just, finds his faith. And he may be outwitted, and he may be outmaneuvered, and he may lose. But he just. Would. Not. Stop.

    He walked everywhere. He grew up on a farm, and be damned for a bastard if he was going to make a horse carry him. If he couldn't carry it on his back, it wasn't that important. He gave almost everything away to those what needed it.

    He'd walk 20 miles through monster infested territory to do the right thing- return a dead childs doll to her parents, just so's they be having something to remember by.

    He'd walk through the aftermath of a battlefield pronouncing benediction on all the fallen of both sides. He would do this for all humanoids. If it could talk 'It could hear the word jest the same as me'n mine.'

    He'd save all those 'as needed it'. Be they orc or goblin, elf or human. He wasn't weak or foolish about it, there have been many heads broken for their own good. 'Much as it pains me, gonna have to put ya on down and let Himself sort you out right.'

    Playing him was a blast for me. I mean, here's a guy who out paladins the paladins. He's about as smart as your average sodbuster with no formal education, and all he has is his intuition and the occasional touch from his god wandering in a world just trying to make things right.

    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:54 No.14032955
    Yes, that's what I'm getting at. AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME, THE BLACKGUARD DID NOT WANT TO DIE. That is the crux of my argument, and that is why I classify it as an evil act. The choice of living for her redemption WAS TAKEN AWAY by an ALLY.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:55 No.14032967

    >The wizard asks the Blackguard why she wants to die so much, and the blackguard goes in angst mode and says her life is just torment because of her sins, and death will be her only rest. The wizard looks sympathetic and says "Are you serious?" and the blackguard simply nods and looks at the sunrise again

    Where in this given information is it stated the blackguard was doing nothing aside from asking for death at that given moment in time?
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:57 No.14032984
    It doesn't. I don't know why you're asking ME that, because I've been arguing she didn't deserve to die this entire thread.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:58 No.14032989

    >doing nothing

    whoops. meant >doing anything

    point still stands, I don't see how, with the information given, this is at all an evil act

    I can understand the mentality of 'no killing PCs is automatically bad' because nine times out of ten, sure. But not here, no.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)01:59 No.14033006


    this is what I'm questioning, along with why it seems to be general consensus that this was a selfish, evil act.

    Sure, they were snarky about it afterwards but one can be sarcastic whilist being sincere
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:00 No.14033018
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    The reason assisted suicide is still illegal is because of dumb fucks like that wizard.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:04 No.14033051
    Okay, let's go over the OP again, shall we.

    "Life is just torment because of her sins"

    "quest for redemption"

    "only rest in death"

    Now, let's review the terminology used:

    "just" - obviously she thinks she deserves the pain she's feeling. If it's just and she regards it as just, I don't see her trying to "escape" from that

    "redemption" - If she's still on the quest, that means she feels she hasn't found her redemption. The elf therefore cut that possibility away from her

    "rest" - How can she rest if she hasn't been redeemed?

    Looking at this, I hope you at least understand why I view this as an EVIL action on the part of the elf, because nowhere in there did she ask the elf to kill her
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    on a related note assisted suicide would be my suggestion for the mage.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:09 No.14033094
    So the rest of the party picks him up, they wander about doing what they should do, and he preaches very little- example being the best teacher.

    It was about the time that we'd reached the climax of a 2 year campaign that it happened. Specifics are getting fuzzy, but the gist was 'big blowout battle with the BBEG on top of a tower in a thunderstorm'. And through some epically bad dice and Derek being massively underequipped for the fight, he goes down. Not even killed by the BBEG, but a minion, a flesh golem thing of some kind. And it absorbs his body, destroying it, and preventing ressurection.

    And I'm sitting there, in a bit of shock that it was over so quickly. Not terribly dissappointed, the character wasn't a combat monster and never was going to be. But the GM does something. He stops the game. Our fighter and mage players are absolutely furious with the GM for letting that happen. And the rogue player is actually sniffling.

    Here I was playing a character, and to them he had become a person. They were torn up about his death. To the point that we broke up the session that night, and took three weeks to get the group back together to finish. And when they did, they stomped the everloving SNOT out of the big bad.

    I haven't played a cleric since then. My group really wanted me to, and I can understand why. They wanted another Derek. But he really did need to stay dead. No do-overs, no retconn, no magic 'all a dream'. After playing him for 2 years, he was ready to lay down and sleep awhile, and spend some time with Himself.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:12 No.14033121
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    My most memorable PC.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:12 No.14033122
    THAT is how you play a fucking cleric. My hat goes off to you, Anon. And I'll raise a glass to Derek, wherever in Kord's embrace he may be.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:15 No.14033150
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:16 No.14033156
    That's inspiring. One of a the best cases I've ever heard of a character death that had meaning.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:18 No.14033176
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    This character was nothing short of a BLAST to play. To the point where we said screw it to the DM's storyline and just started running around.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:20 No.14033197
    I think the best part about that story was the mid-leap monologue about the HONOR OF THE MASK.

    But everything in that story was awesome.
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    >and all he has is his intuition and the occasional touch from his god wandering in a world just trying to make things right.

    And that's where I realized I have to ask you as a person if I can take this idea and run with it. I LOVE this concept.

    Los Tiburon weeps at this loss, for Derek was a man who's soul burned brighter than all.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:28 No.14033278
    In my current Adeptus Evangelion game the entire group is completely dysfunctional, and not in the regular AdEva way either. Our GM has likened us to your average DnD adventurers more than once. We've a paranoid super-communist Russian skirmisher, a pointman, fanatical about the American military who hates everything even slightly communist, to the extent that he suffers penalties in any social interactions with them from his prejudice. The berserker is addicted to gambling and smoking and the AT-Tact/customiser spreads chaos wherever he goes, willingly or not. He's managed to steal a super-charged laptop from a store, burn it down, go to return it, steal it again anyway, burn down the store again and, when the shop assistant chased down his getaway car, have his bodyguard commit murder. All of these things are relatively normal, however, compared to the final group member.

    The AT-tact/apostle is the face of the party, thanks to some amazing rolls when dealing with the media and fangirls. Using this he has, and no doubt will again, invited at least one fangirl to his room. This is where one of his traits takes over. He has OCD (Remove eyes) and suffers penalties every session until he removes something's eyes. He then had his S2 agent bodyguard, who he had previously broken through a mix of verbal abuse and positive reinforcement (iirc he recieved permanent mental trauma from just one session of prolonged interaction with him and only responds to the name 'Jeeves' now) dispose of the body. He also owns an eyeless cat. It had one eye when he bought it, but thanks to his extensive medical knowledge he managed to keep it alive during the operation.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:28 No.14033283

    Another one of his defining traits is his phobia of knives. To those of you familiar with Eva, you should be aware that the most standard weapon that everyone is initially equipped with is the prog-knife, a basic dagger of sorts. This has caused surprisingly few problems, since not too long after the game started he was mauled by an Eva fetus resembling some kind of misshapen bear, burning one of his fate points and giving him the angel-hybrid talent, allowing him to cross into the apostle class, which is basically becoming an angel yourself.

    With our half-crazed operations director at the lead, our group's gotten into some serious trouble, such as turning a friendly game of paintball between us and future classmates into a bloodbath, with a third of the children requiring immediate hospitalisation for reasons ranging from being thrown into a pit full of razor wire laced with a crit failed attempt at a hallucinogen, a melted-off face, wounds from a flaming tasmanian devil and having paint injected into the bloodstream. Needless to say, we ended up not going to the school. Another incident that springs to mind is our assault on the pasific fleet with the pilots under the guise of a 'training sim'. We subdued Asuka by ripping off all of her Eva's limbs, kidnapped her and her Eva, sunk all the ships and blamed it on the nearby angel. The only one to escape was Kaji, but we ran him over with a large plane during damage control. We're currently holding her deep beneath the ground at our base and have given her Eva to the dmpc pilot in an attempt to make her less useless.
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)02:30 No.14033301
    The specifics elude me, but I did have a story for this character.

    He was a half orc, raised as a type of runt by orcs, who constantly belittled him and used him to do menial labor until he was nine years old, where he was liberated from his oppressors.

    By slavers.

    His life was even worse, but his spirit would not yield. Even as they lashed him, and his back bled, he would not stop believing in the good of mankind, and would always do what he could to help those in bondage with him. The slavers cut his face so horribly that he was forever mangled. One day, he prayed to whatever god would listen.

    "Dios Mio, save these people. They have done no wrong. They have families, friends, and I have none. Let them free, and I shall do all their work!"

    His prayers were answered by a band of monks who liberated them all, such gallant and brave heroes, chanting songs and introducing themselves! Flying brilliantly, carrying themselves on the wind! And the masks! They were heroes, in every sense of the word!

    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:32 No.14033318
    I've had a couple that REALLY pushed the entire group outside of their comfort zones.

    Orcish rhythm bard was another fun concept that lasted a long time. Spells based on physical buffs, exotic wp tonfa, 2wp fighting. Honestly was pretty terrible in a melee fight, but was a RIOT to play. I brought a huge amount of music based on taiko drumming, traditional scottish/german battlefield drumming and miscellaneous traditional percussion music.

    I'd try and match sound clips to spells/buffs for the party. I played Farbach as a very focused, very compulsive tapper. Always always always tapping away. Always trying to check the sound of his sticks on any new hard surface, looking for the perfect combination of pitch, resonance and volume. He was an orc, with orc tusks. So the GM and I agreed that drumming would take the place of singing/speech. Eventually took juggling, tumbling and the throw anything feat to add some variety to his performances.

    6'5" tall, greenskin, naked to the waist, whirling and dancing around a hook horror, rattatatting away with a set of very long and thing batons, getting that snare drum chatter, getting the bass kicks from palmthumping the back. Tumbling between the legs and letting the sticks scra~~~pe the floor, and clattering them down the arm to knock-ockock the arm and claw away. Pinging brassy ring-tick-ring-tick SCREAWL! of a series of beak hits, capped by hitting the mushy part of the eyball and the resulting scream.

    He didn't actually die, just got shelved after that campaign ended. I always saw a heroic end for him, and was sad when it never came.
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)02:36 No.14033359
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    As the slaver ringleader fell, the head monk, a proud and gallant man known only as El Santo, the Saint, who wore a bright white mask, came to the teenage orc, his face covered in scars, who bowed before him, saying he was unworthy of these holy men's presence. The words that El Santo said to him resonate within his mind even to this day.

    "My child, lift yourself! You are not in the presence of a god, you are merely in the presence of a man. I am nothing more than you in this world, a man. But I am a man with a quest! A principle! Something to believe in, and that belief gives me the strength to do what is right! The mask is only a tool. Stand, my child! And reach your dream, follow the stars, and carve your name across destiny!"

    He handed me a mask, and trained me under his wing. I never looked back, for I am Los Tiburon! The Shark of the Land! And I am more than a hero. I am...

    ....A LUCHA!
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:37 No.14033373

    >stupid aspie bullshit

    If he wanted to poke holes in her logic, there are ways to do that short of "LOL OK NOW I TOSS YOU OFF A CLIFF"

    I wouldn't put up with any of that chaotic stupid "lolsorandum" bullshit. Tossing your ally off a cliff without provocation for personal gain is an evil act. Period. If I dm'd that, I let the CG wizard do it and switched his alignment to chaotic neutral, right then and there, if not chaotic evil.

    Not because I like emo or angsty characters, but because the wizard's being a stupid dick.


    THIS. This is the chaotic good course of action. This is roleplaying.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:40 No.14033391
    OP has a bauss wizard player.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:41 No.14033402
    There is not enough win in the world to measure the awesome.
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)02:42 No.14033407
    And that was my character's backstory.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:42 No.14033410
    By all means, it's not like I copyrighted it or anything. I'd love to run into someone taking that concept in their own direction.

    My biggest problem was not making him sound like a hillbilly or feel like a Forrest Gump. He could have easily become a single note joke. He's SIMPLE, not STUPID.
    If I recall the statline that lead to the concept, it was Str 14
    Dex 7
    Con 16
    Int 8
    Wis 16
    Cha 9

    Overall, I tried to keep his concept simple and follow four rules.

    1. Do right.
    2. Do it yourself, ain't no man or god what must help you.
    3. Stand tall for what you do and say, an' whatever may come from it.
    4. Don't you ever. Ever. Quit.

    I took a decent amount of inspiration from old westerns and John Wayne flicks.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:45 No.14033430
    My favourite was a player of mine who started out as a Norwegian university student doing humanitarian work in Darfur for a Twilight 2013 game I ran. It was the player's first game, and he started out naive and just wanting to help people. After the initial gunfight, during which he didn't want to shoot, he tried to give first aid to the fallen Janjaweed militiamen. Over the course of the game I watched him, both the player and the character, go from a benevolent humanitarian to a hardened mercenary bent on the genocide of the entire African continent. The best part of the campaign was at the end where he became a Somali warlord ruling over a large portion of the region.

    It was all very Heart of Darkness, and I enjoyed every single minute of it.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:45 No.14033431
    You can't tell, but I'm bowing down before your dedication right now. Seriously, you just rolled a natural 20 on every Dedication check. Applaud, /tg/, applaud.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:46 No.14033446
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    Mine's almost the inverse of >>14030170
    A feral worlder guardswoman, inducted into the Inquisition because of her capacity survive. She winds up working for a radical inquisitor who saw her Dusk heritage as an easy way to break down the barrier between reality and the warp. The rest of the cell, in a move that could be considered really smart or really stupid, flees the radical inquisitor with the feral guardswoman when she starts eating flesh and growing blades from her fingers. They escaped, briefly, to a rival, puritan inquisitor before her compound was raided by their old boss's troops. Right now they're on a mission to kill their original Inquisitor, who falls somewhere between "the Imperium is doomed if we don't change tactics" and "the Imperium is doomed and I'm going down knowing the mysteries of the universe."

    What makes her as a character interesting is, similar to the previous guardswoman in the thread, is her angsty journey from an enthusiastic grunt to a half insane freak of nature whose desire for revenge is the only reason she's not killed herself due to her condition and the trail of dead comrades behind her. When I made the character, I essentially rolled up Catachan down to the physical characteristics and went with it as a joke. I was hoping for high social shenanigans like pic related. Ultimately, things did not go as planned, but goddamn our campaign is fun and over the top anyway.
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)02:47 No.14033451
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    Much obliged. I'll run with it in mostly what you mentioned here. I might come up with some new lines and such. I always ask before taking on an awesome character concept and making it my own.

    I'll kind of hear him sounding like the Engie, just without all them fancy soundin' words.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:48 No.14033453
    Derek player here. You win sir, you win. I never could get the right amount of bombast going to make a lucha concept work. I think I can't let go of the absurdity and just GO for the halfnaked wrestlers for JUSTICE that they require to be fun for the rest of the players. Still... I'dve LOVED to have been part of that game.
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)02:50 No.14033468
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    Everything you do must be done with intense passion, as though you will die the very next moment! Leave a legacy through the ages that even you will look back on and say, "I don't think it was ME that did that, was it?"

    For this is the way of the lucha.

    Ha, I loved this character, and spent a little time on the backstory, half making things up as I went. My DM originally thought I was being a jackass, but I ran with this hard and made it awesome.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:50 No.14033472
    Wait, wait, wait... You're character is mutating/ demonic, you run to a PURITAN INQUISITOR, and he DOESN'T shoot you on sight?
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:51 No.14033481
    Kromgol would approve of men like Derek and Los Tiburon.

    Honor and strength, my brothers.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)02:56 No.14033509
    I think you're pretty much fucked either way in trying to convict the elf. Fact is there's a very slim chance that's evil.
    1) The blackguard was on a quest for redemption. This means the blackguard was not redeemed. Redeemed does not mean good, it just means ok. That means the blackguard was still evil.
    Alignment is a kind of nauseating mockery of actual morality, and while it was made to prevent disputes by keeping morality black and white, I personally think it irresponsibly plants that notion in people, making them worse as they stop thinking. But my dislike of the system aside, the rules have been rehashed on this a thousand times before. And killing an evil character does not make you evil.
    It might make you chaotic if you don't take them captive. But chaotic good characters have free reign to kill them. A paladin would have to offer imprisonment. A bard does not.
    By the rules of the game, the chaotic character killed one that technically was still evil, regardless of its intentions. The rules are retarded in this respect, I know, but that's simply how things are in DnD.
    I refuse to play games with alignment. Perhaps you should consider doing the same. But you are not saying anything informative to anyone on /tg/ by insisting we shouldn't push people off cliffs. The only people on 4chan who would do such a thing are psychologically ill, and your words physically cannot reach them.

    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)02:57 No.14033515
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    I added something to my character's backstory. He never had a name. The orcs wouldn't give him one, and neither would the slavers.

    But El Santo remembered the legend of a simple orc who lived a simple life, and taught all lessons across time and generations.

    "My child, I give you your true name. When you are ready to pass along your mask and your name, this is the name you will be known as.

    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)02:58 No.14033525
    It would have been awesome to be a part of the game of Derek the Cleric. Like, seriously, that is the definition of a righteous dude who lives life according to what makes sense to him. Ain't nothin' gonna change that.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:03 No.14033566
    Before I start the shitstorm of having called people of peculiar opinion mentally incapable, I will bother to give lip service to moral relativism. Yes, conceivably there are some societies/subjectivistic assholes who could rationalize the act as something acceptable. Please have the maturity to not bother arguing this unless you actually DO have such a morality. My guess is nobody here would actually help an emo kill themselves, even if they like the thought.
    Furthermore, moral relativists are in fact also moral nihilists, since in order for there to be a "truth" about morality it must be objective, and if you think morality is subjective then it is hence not a truth at all. That's fine. It just means you think its a complex array of opinions and such. You may for all intents and purposes act as moral as the next guy- you just don't think morality is the kind of thing to which facts pertain- only opinions or personal preferences.

    Finally, what the elf did was in perfect character specifically because she had a motive. It was pretty good roleplaying, all in all. She saw something she knew she could get away with which would benefit her, and being chaotic is likely to act on her impulses. This is presuming characters know what alignment is in their universe, which I assume because the cleric probably would have explained it to them by now when they asked what he was detecting when he used detect evil/chaos/other dipshit label.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:10 No.14033613

    This sounds so much like my own grandfather. He grew up as the 4th or 5th last of a family of 17 (legitimate, there are supposedly more) brothers and sisters. They lived in the mountains around here most of their lives, so they pretty much just farmed if possible, and hunted. He never really had a lot of schooling, so he doesn't know how to read and write, but he can beat the shit out of just about anybody I know at chess. He served in the Navy during WWII, mostly as a lookout. He has a VERY different view of the Great Depression than historians and others. He's highly self sufficient, to the point that he grows and cannes his own vegetables, and he's almost 80 at this point.

    now I've upset myself. I need to go visit him more often.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:12 No.14033629
    I remember the one time I've played in an rpg. It was a cyberpunk campaign, and it was awesome. I don't remember the system, but it was pretty straightforward. Some feats to make your character, and the dm rolled pretty much all actions on three dice and decided the result accordingly.
    He said right out at the start that we wouldn't die unless we did something heroic or stupid.
    Pretty standard cyberpunk setting, world gone to shit, we worked for a shadowy organization with nearly unlimited resources and odd jobs that needed to be done.
    The group was all pretty badass, pretty much all a combination of cyborg, drug addict, private military contractor or all of the above. I played a paranoid hacker who discriminated against cyborgs.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:12 No.14033633
    Standard awesome moments. One of our combat characters jumps and slides over a suv hood, giving the finger to the incredulous bodyguard inside. He then rides out three point-blank pistol shots and crushes the guards throat with his augmented hand.
    I often came in late to the sessions, so I would be introduced offscreen. Memorably, the group called me while I was on vacation. At a strip club. They explain the situation, so, not thinking, I tell the dm that I look my laptop and tell my allies I will be helping them shortly . "Your face is buried in a glorious set of boobs. All your friend hears over the phone is MMFFFMMMGHMMMFFF"
    Also, I tried to disable a helicopter drone's sensors. "Congratulations, you hacked it's control circuits instead. You are now the proud owner of this helicopter and its four 50 caliber machine guns"
    I racked up 25ish kills with my new toy Lucy that day.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:13 No.14033638
    But the most memorable character was still cyborg Abraham Lincoln. For whatever reason, this latecomer to the RP decided he would play the reincarnation of Abraham Lincoln, augmented by cybernetics. His first session, we got into a firefight with some other mercs in a crowded city street. Through all the smoke and chaos, cyborg Lincoln ambushes one of the mercs, rips his head off, throws it in the general direction of his buddies, and yells "YOU'RE NEXT MERCS"

    I ended up dropping out of the RP because of my work, but man, those were some fun times.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:14 No.14033647
    They needed proof of the other inquisitor's guilt. That's not to say I wasn't bound, chained, and rigged to an explosive collar. I became a piece of evidence.

    After the raid, the game became much more like Rogue Trader.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:14 No.14033651
    It would be in perfect character were she not stated to be chaotic GOOD. Pushing an ally over a cliff, even if you don't like them, even if they're after "your" man, is an EVIL action. This sort of behavior is described in the Neutral Evil descriptor: "Ruthless, opportunistic, not hampered by morality when it comes to helping herself"
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:18 No.14033688
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    It's been like EIGHT FUCKING HOURS since this was posted. LET IT GO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:19 No.14033697
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    <<< This meme, I was in the campaign with the "I pet my servo skull" guy, that was pretty memorable. We were on a tyrannid infested planet trying to recover space marine gene seed before the tyrannids absorbed it. Our cleric was knocked out cold by a lictor and our tech priest was hauling his ass around for us. Once we made it out of the facility we saw that our inquisitors ship had started purging the planet with cyclonic torpedos and our only escape was to make it to a warp beacon we placed close by. Just steps away from the warp beacon the cyclonic torpedos were about to hit, our GM gave us a few minutes to write what we do in those last few moments. The arbitrator and I (the psyker) booked it towards the warp beacon hoping we could make it. The tech priest holding our cleric friend? He decided it was a good time to say his final farewells to his servo skull... "I pet my servo skull... I love you servo skull." was all he had to say. The cyclonic torpedoes fell, completely disintegrating both him and the cleric. Also after the arbitrator and I warped back to the ship, the arbitrator rolled absolutely TERRIBLY on his warp mishap rolls and ended up a pile of organs screaming for help, so i had to put him out of his misery... I was the only one to survive but I shall never forget the brave (and stupid) souls that fought valiantly that day.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:20 No.14033704
    I can debate if I fucking feel like it. I'm entitled to my opinion and no one's managed to convince me otherwise. That said, I hadn't touched that topic over the past 4 hours, when we weren't talking about it. Someone else brought it back up, I followed along. Bring up a topic of your own if you don't want to hear this one.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:20 No.14033705

    >She saw something she knew she could get away with which would benefit her, and being chaotic is likely to act on her impulses.

    I hate to be a smartass and answer only one point, but like I said, that's gotta be at least chaotic neutral. And I still wouldn't want to play with anybody who does stupid things like that. I don't dislike chaotic characters. But I do dislike when people use chaotic as an excuse for being stupid, a dick, or both.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:21 No.14033717
    I always described him as a fanatic by another name. In his wandering, I tried to make it clear through the anecdotes and the references he made, that he came from nowhere special, with no grim past. He never really had a family, no wife or children, his farmstead was small and not his own; he farmed the land for a small time landowner. His parents were simple and peacable sharecroppers, who raised him right. There was no great unrequited love in his past, or tragic death, or great creeping doom, damning his family line for centuries. He was just a man who one day heard the call, and stood up to be counted.

    I just tried for that Wayneish unflappability.
    Chimera? 'Huh... now ain't that the strangest beastie I ever seen.' Undead? 'Welp, you poor souls need to be getting on back to sleep.' King? 'Well sir, it's a pleasure and more to be helping a man out. But if you could be seeing clear to be giving my reward to that church on down by the docks that had that fire last week?'

    Or my favorite 'Well sir, if you'd have seen to not be so all out small and mean to your daughter, she might not've run off with the first fella what gave her a kind word. And then you'd be having more than a painting and a memory of her. Oh, and a note. Didn't mean to forget that, nossir. But here you are then, and I'll pray that I won't go on bein so forgetfull. Himself knows I ain't perfect, and I damnsure didn't have no intention o'hurtin you'n your missus by being all scatterbrained.'

    Damn... been a few years now, and I want to play him again.
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)03:23 No.14033744
    I remember this story. I was wondering when the story would be posted again, it made me remember my techpriest who crashed a freighter into a planet of xeno filth for killing his quorrel (GM described it as squirrel with two tails)
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:24 No.14033764
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    >ctrl+f "Fall"
    >13 mentions
    >no one points out the thread is about a Blackguard falling.
    >> Iron Lung 02/25/11(Fri)03:25 No.14033767
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    Awesome story. Very perfectly 40-conclusion, too.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:25 No.14033775
    Well, because it's about so many other things as well, now.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:28 No.14033800
    *sniffle sniffle* wow really warms my heart to see that i can post something that actually happened without everyone being all "THAT WASN'T YOU, COPYPASTA FAG!!" I love you /tg/
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)03:29 No.14033814
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    Then as brothers of the spirit, let us continue these stories of greatness! Surely spirits that burn as bright as ours should not be kept in the dark! The gods know that the world is dark enough, there are places that need light more than ever!

    Los Tiburon shall return to the field of battle, and hope to one day meet Derek the Cleric, and offer him nothing more than a handshake and a few words, for we must not tarry! The world needs us, friend!

    >serious orchestrate

    Even captcha is with us on this one. Let us bring our characters out of retirement.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:31 No.14033829
    Well, I am kinda wondering why you're namefagging one post and Anon the next...
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:32 No.14033838
    I hate to be that prick, but it's bugged me since the first time I read it:

    Should be El Tiburon, or Los Tiburones. Los is plural.

    I am immensely sorry for shitting up this awesome thread with goddamn semantics.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:34 No.14033856
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    First I love OP's post. Fucking love that stuff. And I'd have to say As for characters I've played with...The Brethren Dimm.

    My two friends decided to play gnome twins, one a sorcerer and one a rogue. The rogue had cleptomania and the sorcerer would come up with the most cokamamy plans to keep his foolish brother from being arrested. All the while my serious-style professional rogue would sit and shake his head and their antics. I loved that game so much.
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)03:36 No.14033870
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    This is a common misconception, my friend, and one Los Tiburon is happy to clear up for you!

    Yes, LOS is a plural form, and EL is a singular, so if I were simply a shark, My name would be EL Tiburon.

    But I am more than this! I carry in my arms and on my back the strength of ten sharks! A hundred! A THOUSAND!

    So you see, I am not one shark. I am a pack of them.

    (I do realize this. In character creation, I just took Los Tiburon, instead of El Tiburon, but I wasn't thinking clearly on the spanish. After the character was already made, I didn't feel like going back and changing it, opting instead for the description I have just give.)
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:37 No.14033885
    You take what others would call laziness, and turn it into part of your awesome backstory. What are you smoking and where can I get some?
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:38 No.14033889
    If you make a speech every time you justify it I will correct you a thousand times more. Bravo, good sir.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:40 No.14033907
    That, you see that? That right there? Where he just goes all inexplicably kinda dumb for justice with logic that makes the brain hurt? That's what I can't do. I can read it, hear it, laugh at it, but it's like trying to tap dance naked on a razorblade for me. I just keep slipping too far to one side or the other and cutting my taint open.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:42 No.14033920
    I love /tg/. So fucking much.
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)03:43 No.14033928
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    Los Tiburon does not smoke any mind altering substance! For these are a dark path, because they cloud the mind into being creative. True creativity comes from the heart, and is pure, and unfiltered! However, Los Tiburon does enjoy taking some time with companions and enjoying a good ale.
    For this is the way of the lucha! It is not enough to simply be a man who can pin another person or perform a triple lariat flying somersault dragon kick while blindfolded. You must put on a show! Live and speak as though the world is an audience, and let your deeds be the script!
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:46 No.14033945
    There are no words to describe the awesome.
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)03:46 No.14033946
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    And this is why a lucha does understand these things, because the whole of life is a dance, and you must learn to sway with the rhythm or you may as well be dead!

    So dance, my friend, even though you cannot hear the song.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:47 No.14033953
    Man, if you can do Derek justice with this kind of insanity burbling away, I will truly be in awe...
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)03:48 No.14033964
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    I will do this. And I have my own personal twist on it. He will be acountry western version of this man:


    A man that Los Tiburon was based on.

    To reach....the unreachable star.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:49 No.14033966

    /tg/ - Keeping arguments going far longer than they have any right to be kept.

    Either be amused by the circumstances or disagree with the character/player's actions. Say so. Then go on with sharing stories. I'm stating what should be obvious, but apparently it is not.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:51 No.14033983
    I have said so. And then when the topic is changed, I talk about them. When the topic moves back to that, I talk about it. I'm just here for the conversation, really.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:52 No.14033994
    Well, I look forward to reading about it here. Go forth, you manic masked man. You sound like you're going to have a blast with the concept, and that's the best part. Me... I'm out. Sleep is good.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:55 No.14034012
    My Dusk Born Guardsman. One of the original members of our acolyte cell, he's a cunning survivor with a dark sense of humor. I love him because he never fails a fear check and always faces horrors down with grim determination. He's also the longest surviving acolyte I've ever had the fortune to play.

    The only other original cell member in our group is a Mind Cleansed Arbiter. He and my Guardsman are best buds, I having pulled in out of the maw of more than one monster, he having covered for my near-heretical behavior. The other four members of our cell are a Malfian Noble Scum, a Dark Holder Sanctioned Psyker, a Famulus Protege Adept, and a Shrine World Battle Sister.

    Also, our GM gives out very little experience points, only 100 per session. On the other hand, he is very generous with equipment and cybernetic upgrades as rewards.
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)03:56 No.14034025
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    Sleep, my friend, and awaken anew. For each new day is a blessing and a gift. Do not squander it!

    This goes for all of you out there, never give up on your dreams! This may seem to you like some random storytelling at four in the morning, but you all have eyes to see. And yes, I see what you can see...deep inside you, that overflowing well of courage, you have it to, my friend. Go forth you readers, and find your star! Whether it be a girl, a job, an education, or whatever you may chase, find that star and follow it with all your heart!

    This is the lesson that Los Tiburon passes along to you. May it serve you well.

    (I am going to have a blast with it, and keep an eye out here and sup tg for writefaggotry when it happens.)
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)03:58 No.14034041
    You are my new favorite person.
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!MN4FpFAW9OX 02/25/11(Fri)04:02 No.14034069
    I thank you for the words of admiration, my friend, but Los Tiburon insists that I am nothing more than a man in this world, this fragile world we live in. But remember, one man is capable of so very much! I shall come to this place sometime soon and recant tales of triumph and glory, and even pain and sorrow, for there can be no good either, without the bad to make it much sweeter.

    But I ask you only to come to Los Tiburon's next match, and watch as I wrestle the villains of the week, so you can watch your hero in action, and realize the greatest secret of all.

    I am just a man. And so are you.

    Be the hero.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)04:28 No.14034275
    I played a tech priest at one point, he was damn near indestructible. Ridiculous toughness, eventually a suit of dragon scale power armored, later reinforced with wraithbone augmentations (long story), and so on. The rest of the party came and went, though they each had a memorable, albeit brief, existence.

    The first scum: Got tag teamed by a pair of mercs working for a renegade inquisitor. Shotgun blast at point blank range turned is face to pulp. He was a lesson to the rest of us in how lethal a combination our GM and DH were.
    The arbitrator: Killed by an assassin with a needle pistol she had hidden in a concealed compartment in the palm of her hand. Another lesson, never trust a pretty smile. Especially not one interested in you.
    The first psyker: Got split up from the rest of us during a chase through the underhive. Was cornered and killed by one of the plaguebearers pursuing us.
    The assassin: Booby trapped hrud warren came down on his head.
    The second scum: Head crushed by my tech priest's manipulator mechadendrite.
    The second psyker: Tangled with a daemon of Tzeentch that was possessing the hive, lost, and had to be put down for her own good.
    The guardsman: Confronted my tech priest over his slow transformation into a heretek. Set him on fire and threw him down a mile deep shaft.
    The adept: Died when the train we were on was attacked and destroyed by a Valkyrie gunship. Though he managed to destroy the gunship with the train's flaming wreck.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)04:29 No.14034285

    My tech priest lasted through three otherwise completely distinct groups before he finally bought it. He ended up on the receiving end of a rather vicious mauling from a trio of biomancers. Though he managed to kill them, it left him very badly beaten, and in the end he got a bolter emptied into his back and died.

    In the end his indestructibility was something of a running joke in our group. Some times when a fight broke out and everyone dived for cover, someone would take cover behind my tech priest. After all, he was actually more durable than a lot of the things lying around.

    The GM apparently also thought it was pretty funny, considering he actually had my character "survive" his death and used him as an antagonist. The bonesinger who had developed a bit of a thing for him recovered his body and turned it into a horrifyingly powerful bodyguard. In that way he actually ended up being the only character to "live" all the way from the beginning of that campaign to the end.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)04:30 No.14034294

    You've just inspired me to make my next 3.5e character an unarmed Holy Liberator of Kord. I feel that this my next campaign is going to be amazing, now.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)04:35 No.14034336

    Had any truly awesome moments? Mine was my Guardsman loosing his arm to a Slaugth Infiltrator in CC only to tear it to pieces with a chain axe. Truly the God Emperor was with him.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)04:36 No.14034341
    Hey, does anyone have that one copypasta about the drunken hobo paladin?
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)04:54 No.14034474
    There was that time we destroyed a Sword frigate.

    It had showed up on the edge of the system, mostly intact but adrift and without power. Now, normally we wouldn't have gotten involved. The problem was that this particular Sword happened to also be sitting in the subsector's shipyards, not due to be complete for another decade.

    So we went aboard, and quickly discovered that the ship was swarming in all sorts of nasties. Fortunately the daemons and tyranids seemed more interested in fighting each other than us, so all we had to deal with was what remained of the crew (some insane, some horribly mutated, some undead) and the fact that the ship itself was now sapient and trying to kill us.

    The only person who seemed to have any interest in helping us destroy the ship (which was really the only sensible decision at this point) was this one guy who seemed to be able to appear at of no where and vanish just as quickly. At first we thought he was just pulling a batman, quickly sneaking around when we weren't looking. Then we found a recording (timestamped from M42) in which we saw him getting ripped to bloody shreds by a hormagaunt.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)05:10 No.14034542
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    My most memorable character was an elven barbarian with an IQ of a hollowed out brick.

    Generally the guy who's told to go stand in the corner when the grownups talk. At some point things get sour and we're trying to leave the house with out anyone noticing, but then suddenly the owner of the house who happened to be an important to plot character is standing in the way.

    The groups face/smart guy/leader type is all like "We gotta get out of here" and I'm like "Yes boss" and try to tackle the house owner to make way for the group with out hurting the guy too much.

    The owner of the house broke an arm, lost two thirds of his health and was thrown into a shock.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)05:15 No.14034562

    He was about as shocked as we were.

    So we needed to destroy the frigate, and our best bet was to overload the engine and blow the whole mess to kingdom come. We fought our way through a gang of mutated crew members to the engine room. The rest of the party holds the mutants while I set the engines to overload. That's the plan anyway. Of course, as soon as I started working on that a massive thing that the GM described as a sort of a defiler in reverse (machines grafted to a daemon, rather than a daemon possessing a machine) crashed into the engine room screaming "Souls for the Soul Forge!"

    The rest of that meet was pretty much us playing a frantic game of "keep away from the horrible daemonic death machine" while fighting mutants (who were also getting diced up by the daemon) and trying to rig the engine to blow. In the end my tech priest was up on a catwalk that I thought was out of the daemon's reach, finishing his work on the just finishing his work on the engine, when it started shooting death rays at me from it's mouth.

    I hid behind a big pipe for a round of that, but when it didn't seem interested in giving up, I figured I needed to just take a chance, make a run for the last access port that I needed to get to in order to overload the engine, and then high tail it out of there.
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)05:31 No.14034634

    As soon as the daemon spotted me again it took a shot at me. Rolled well. Was going to hit. That death ray had been absolutely destroying everything, and we all doubted that even I could take a shot from it. I had long since run out of fate points to burn, and everyone thought I was finally toast.

    Up until this point I had been concealing the fact that my tech priest had a shimmer shield. I nodded to the DM, who rolled for it. It was a 1 in 3 chance to live, and I made it, the beam dissipated harmlessly against the shield. The rest of the group were immediately trying to guess what I had just done? Some sort of archeotech? Xenotech? A daemonic pact perhaps? I had no intention of telling them that my guy was getting his grove on with a xeno witch behind all their backs.

    After that we all made a mad dash back to our ship and escaped the frigate. A while later the psyker and guardsman figured out that whatever I had done to survive was definitely heretical. Fortunately, she got put down soon afterward, so when the guardsman confronted me I was able to dispose of him, as I mentioned before.
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    charismatic debonair half-orc rogue that I played for my "social" campaigns

    his orc and human features blended in a way that most women (and some men) eventually feel driven to kneel down and perform fellatio for him

    convinced the gold-digger spy heiress to sleep with him, and betray her brother who happens to be a deformed hobo mage rising in prominence in the ghetto (think 3rd Olsen twin legend, combined with hobos)... the other players took care of the sewer crawling, my half-orc convinced the city council to clear the names of people the gold-digging bitch blackmailed...

    it was the only time I ever played a non-combat character, but it went pretty nicely

    pic kinda related
    >> Anonymous 02/25/11(Fri)05:38 No.14034666
    Attellus Zaldaki. Scum. Noble born.

    He started out as a con man. Born and learned in the spires of Hive Sibellus, he threw away much of his family honor by running off on a get-rich scheme involving supposed archaeotech. Four years and thousands of thrones later he limped back, ashamed. His family accepted him only provisionally. He was blood, but they had plenty of heirs. The next few years were toil and diplomacy with the only defining point being his attempted con of a another noble. The noble was an inquisitor. And the rest, perhaps, is history.

    He's changed alot since then. Where once he was a coward, now he is brave. Where once he was prissy, now he gives as hard as he gets. And where once he was scum, now he is a hero.

    But it took a few years of gameplay and more than one close call to reach that. In a game with over six PCs, he is one of the final two originals. All others have fallen, failed, or fled. His survival isn't due to a stat advantage, nor due to luck. Its most often to good roleplaying, well made plans no longer than two sentences, and the partnership with the other survivor that has overcome all challenges.

    But my favorite part about him is -why- he fights. He certainly worships the Emperor, but that doesn't drive him. He might enjoy his work and its rewards, but he knows it can only end one way. And it certainly isn't to build his family's name, as they are (recently) a shattered relic of a legacy he can no longer have.

    He fights because the Imperium is his playground. His status, wealth, reputation, and friends he can do without. But if the Imperium falls, he has nowhere to thrive. So he -must- fight to protect it, if only to protect himself.

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