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    12 KB Army List Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:37 No.14586323  
    Can you tell me if this army list is good?


    2 Knights
    2 Bishops

    8 Pawns

    Heavy Support:
    2 Rooks
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:38 No.14586338
    Typical pawn spam. Yawn.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:39 No.14586351
    It's a pretty standard army, usually for white in tournies.

    Unless op is running Chaos White in which case wtf r u doin
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:40 No.14586359
    I'm only upset that I've been browsing this board for ~3 years, and have not seen this before.

    I really feel like i should have seen this much sooner.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:40 No.14586361
    ditch the king, it's not worth the points. It's worse than just leaving the points empty... Any good player will try to kill it and just watch your army flee off the board
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:40 No.14586371
    really why the fuck would you take a king? Even another pawn would be more useful since you can use that retarded promotion mechanic
    >> TerminusEst !!u+uMAzaP9l4 04/13/11(Wed)22:41 No.14586376
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    >1 Troop

    Your list is illegal.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:43 No.14586401
    What's the funniest is when an opponent runs an all-queen list against my all-pawn list. (Although sometimes I throw in a single knight to make things interesting.)
    >> Ånönymøüs dê Bērgérãç-Flëūr !RZND91lf7s 04/13/11(Wed)22:44 No.14586408
    1E was so much better. Queen instead of vizier? Please.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:45 No.14586410
    knights are fast attack dude
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:46 No.14586422
    The queen is totally overpowered as an HQ, I mean, unrestricted movement? Cheesy.
    The elites look good I guess, I just never got the hang of using knights.
    Troops, don't expect these guys to do much, bu the diagonal attack is kind of cool.
    Rooks as heavies? I guess, but they're not as useful as bishops.

    I'm still waiting for the codex update, I swear it's been like a couple hundred years since they updated the army.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:46 No.14586424
    >He uses pawns

    >Laughing Queen Army.jpg
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:49 No.14586451
    Dude, why are you playing the Chessperium? That shit is weak. Go with the Xianqi or something.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:50 No.14586457
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    i'd drop the bishops, pick an extra rook, at throw in however many troops you can get for what you have left
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:50 No.14586462
    this...this is so vanilla it's not even funny

    jesus christ

    Have SOME originality to step out of this list. I know it's the tried-and-true list of nigh-everyone for, what, centuries, but still.

    At least dump four of the pawns for another rook.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:53 No.14586486
    Do rookspam OP. Drop the Queen. She's too high-priority. Sure, she's a fearsome beast, but too easy to lucky-shot if you're not being careful not to rush her at your opponent's non-Pawns.

    Drop the Queen, a Knight and Bishop, and all but 4 Pawns for another FIVE Rooks.

    That is SEVEN rooks on your side of the table. FUCKING SEVEN.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:53 No.14586488
    Drop the Queen, that shit is a waste of points. Invest in improving your pawns so they can reach the end quick and become Queens for free.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:54 No.14586490
    But if he does that, will he have enough troops to cap points?
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:54 No.14586495
    King is a pretty crap choice for a bait if you're not prepared to castle. Just sayin'. You could get by with fewer pawns, but I'd at least keep three if you're going kingside (four if you want the option of queenside).
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:57 No.14586517
    >Fielding Kings
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:58 No.14586529
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    How about this? Like the paint job?

    I know its a noob army, but there really is strategy involved. Yeah, I know the movement is crappy both in how far you can go and how you're limited to 50% of the board, but if you don't have that much money, this is definitely the way to go. Anyone can just pick up this army and away you go.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:58 No.14586534
    Why aren't you playing the Checkers?
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)22:59 No.14586542
    He has enough specials that he can rely on playing obliteration instead of taking and holding points. His remaining pawns can just cap easy target objectives.
    Actually...OP has way too many specials. Playing this sort of balanced list is so boring OP. Everyone does it because they can't comprehend higher strategy using variant lists. Hell, just because the Grandmasters do it, doesn't mean you should, OP.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:00 No.14586552
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    >mwf I play Knight Spam
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:00 No.14586561

    Do this:

    King (mandatory)

    40 Pawns

    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:01 No.14586565
    Gentlemen I propose the next "/tg/ gets shit done" project:

    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:01 No.14586568
    >Implying a Queen army without pawn support stands a CHANCE against an all-pawn army when they'll be outnumbering you damn near 6 to 1 and you're trading 1 queen for every pawn you kill as they slowly swarm your ass.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:02 No.14586584
    Meh,that army would fall easily against a Stratego.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:03 No.14586596
    >implying pawn spam > knight spam

    Especially with the newest codex, Walter Marde is such a nook sucker but what can you do
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:03 No.14586599
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    >Read: Knightmare Chess
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:04 No.14586601
    >40+1 units
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:06 No.14586622

    Go away, it's idiots like you that are killing this game. Dammit, I've been playing this since 2nd edition, and I remember when it actually took STRATEGY to win, now it's just PAWN RUSH KEKEKE all day.

    And don't even get me started on that fucking Queen. Most OP piece of shit on the board. I used to kick ass with my Bishops, now I just spend the entire game getting chased around by them because "FUCK YOU I CAN MOVE HORIZONTALLY".
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:08 No.14586649
    Man, everyone always does the same ol' black or white colors for their armies. I wanna see a red and green army square it off one day.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:08 No.14586650
    Seriously this. Pawns hit just as hard as a queen without the mobility, and as long as there are no objectives other than "Kill the HQ" the mobility doesn't really provide you that much of an advantage when you're that heinously outnumbered.

    Although, Pawn-spam can do alright in most objective games ANYWAYS as well since you'll be taking up half the damn board with your initial deployment.

    Honestly, with my pawn-heavy list I have only lost like one or two of my fifty odd games with them. (I usually take one knight, sometimes I run him as my HQ but I'm usually pretty gutsy with him so I usually stick with the cheaper king piece) Queen/Rook/Bishop-heavy armies all get mauled to hell and back. Anyone who tells you the are able to win with those kinds of armies is playing in a weak fucking meta with nothing but trash players.

    Going up against another identical pawn army just ends up being a case of whoever goes first wins.
    The only opponent that's ever given me a run for my money without relying on first turn with the same list was a combined arms knight+pawn list where he was able to open up holes with his pawns so he could safely position his knights to then jump all the way into my back lines. It was a tough game.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:12 No.14586700
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    ...pic related?
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:12 No.14586711
    Actually, I hear that the queen-knight combos work really well if you play it right. All you have to do is use the knights to play hit-and-run, running your opponent all over the board, and have the queen finish off the stragglers. Still really difficult for beginners to learn, though.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:14 No.14586735
    It's the fluff's fault. Seriously the only Black & White Library book that has another color is Through The Looking Glass, what with the Red Queen and King.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:19 No.14586789
    Maybe so, but the Bishop's Heresy is pretty kickass. I just finished "A Thousand Pawns," and that shit was epic.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:19 No.14586790
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:19 No.14586798
    No, Whoever told you that is retarded. Queens are NOT WORTH THEIR POINTS. Knights require more finesse than anything else in the game to use right and are usually the biggest game changers.

    Yeah, sure, your "Queen can pick off the stragglers" but there's kind of the issue of there being what, 9 pawns for every queen? And 9 pawns are able to cover themselves pretty well. Enough of them and they can pretty consistently cover themselves.

    To break a proper pawn swarm (anyone with brains enough to use it better than a retard) you HAVE to sacrifice SOMETHING. And in a Knight+Queen list you just DON'T have the pieces to sacrifice. Unless you're planning on using your queens as sacrifices so you can break their lines with your knights, but if you're doing that you'd be better off taking any other piece, particularly pawns. Or, like you're suggesting, send your knights in to their deaths so the queens can mop up the things that murder the queen the moment she kills a single one.

    Jesus, you fucks are retarded.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:21 No.14586816
    It was good, but I'm wondering when they are going to make a book about the fucking Grey Pawns.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:21 No.14586820
    Have you guys looked into the Seirawan expansion? It's not official fluff, but the Elephant and Hawk are amazing.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:24 No.14586850
    Ah, those. They like were originally known as the Gray Pawns, but due to legal reasons couldn't appear until someone realized that Grey Pawns was a reacharound. They appeared in one story in Heroes of the White Pawns, I believe.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:27 No.14586874
    Gomo is supposed to that one in June. Probably going to be shit after he wrote "The Lone Rook". Doesn't he know that Rooks CAN'T move diagonally?
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:29 No.14586900
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    OP, where's your ranged support?
    Your army is so melee heavy it sickens me. My King + Queen + 6 Archers + 8 pawns would wreck your shit, and that's a scrub army
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:30 No.14586904
    Hey guys, total noob here. Just wondering... is it actually even possible to beat a complete pawnspam list? I know, I know, once you get to the back row they're toast, but I can't get to the back without sacrificing one unit for each row of pawns. I'd consider deepstriking, but then I've got maybe 2 rooks at the back, and they just can't do the damage fast enough. What am I missing?
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:31 No.14586922
    Yeah, the only fucker as bad as him is Max Ward. Fucker ruined the Stratego Codex's fluff.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:32 No.14586934
    Fuck your Queen Spam, once my Pawns reach your side, shit son, PROMOTIONS everwhere
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:34 No.14586961
    You have to assassin run their king, it's the only way. In a straight fight, their numbers will just obliterate you, but pawns can't move backwards, evade and strike!

    Once the next edition brings out Assassin, pawnspam will be a thing of the past (assassins don't provoke attacks except from elite unites)
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:37 No.14586998
    Someone needs to archive this.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:40 No.14587031
    Fucking Slurks are annoying to put onto the gameboard. I hate it whenever one of my friends comes over and fields an assassin.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:50 No.14587144
    In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future there is only white and black squares.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:53 No.14587169
    >this thead
    /tg/ I love you
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:54 No.14587181
    The similarities are already noted. >>14587167
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:56 No.14587199
    Is this thread worthy of Archive? I'm not sure myself.
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:57 No.14587213
    It's 50-some-odd posts, so, no
    Not yet
    >> Anonymous 04/13/11(Wed)23:59 No.14587229
    I'm playing a Slaaneshi Chaos White army. Any tips?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:00 No.14587247

    before or....after?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:00 No.14587251
    Remember that Slaaneshi Chaos pawns get Promotions for En Passant
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:02 No.14587266
    Buy the hottest looking Queen you can find.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:05 No.14587297
    If I only had that "I've never been turned on by chess pieces before" image...
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:11 No.14587355
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    I myself tend to use Aces as my HQ.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:11 No.14587360
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    Why does /tg/ say Shogi is a weeaboo army? Are you also going to say that Xiang Qi is a a Chinky army?

    I play Xiang Qi and my ranged support is fuckwin, to say nothing of my elephants. You gonna send your pawnspam? Good luck getting in my palace.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:18 No.14587442
    Shogi isn't a weeaboo army. Go is.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:26 No.14587531
    Go is an all deep-striking army, it could either rock or completely suck. Especially since they got nerfed in the new update.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:30 No.14587581
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    Throw some paratrooper stones into that mix. Sure, they can't move once they're down, but the surround+capture rule makes them crazy OP if you can drive your opponent to the edges.

    Also, I played against a guy running a Mahjongg build last week and got my ass handed to me. Anyone know how to beat Spring+Summer combo? (He followed it up with quad North, just to humiliate me. Fucker.)
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:32 No.14587613
    AbstractStrategyGamesHammer 40k is the best.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:37 No.14587658
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    They have announced that they are remaking the first army for AbstractStragetyGamesHammer 40k, Senet. I myself am happy for this.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:40 No.14587698
    >surround+capture rule makes them crazy OP
    Dude, their aggro's not why they're OP. Read their special rule again. They give you a win condition for surrounding table area EVEN WHEN IT'S NOT AN OBJECTIVE-BASED GAME. It's based on an old edition, because they haven't updated the codex in, like, THOUSANDS of years, but it's still technically valid.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:49 No.14587804
    Haven't you fucking read the errata?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:54 No.14587856
    Dudes I want an army with a small amount of expensive but very powerful units. Any recommendatory?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)00:59 No.14587914
    Yeah, and they don't fucking mention it once. They're too busy updating their faggy Mary Sue chess codexes. Pawns can practically move and shoot on the OPPONENT'S turn now.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)01:01 No.14587956
    Yeah. Fucking fluff with its "Gary Kasparov is the spiritual liege of all pieces".
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)01:04 No.14587988
    I loved Bobby Fischer's Anti-Semitic Crusade. He's such a putz.

    I was thinking about this the other day, since the pieces have an assigned value (generally, there is some differences in opinion on the values but whatever), could you field an army of different pieces but equal points and have the game be balanced?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)01:09 No.14588050
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)01:11 No.14588081
    Failscher, you armless racist, when will you ever learn?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)01:22 No.14588187
    I was actually thinking of fielding a Pre-Heresy Black Army. Basically, more Bishops and Rooks in place of a Queen since they weren't produced yet. What do you think?
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)02:18 No.14588727
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    Mikhail Tal is god-tier.

    And no, just balancing by valuations is insufficient.
    >> Anonymous 04/14/11(Thu)04:55 No.14589979

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