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    11 KB Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)00:12 No.15007851  
    So I'm making a villain in Mutants and Masterminds called the "Master Troll." Basically he's like the Trickster from the Flash with Technomancy powers and uses them to fuck with people. I'm a bit strapped for ideas on what kind of trolltastic tricks or traps for him to throw at the players? Do /tg/'s trolls have any ideas?

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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)00:15 No.15007894
    Go there and research
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)00:34 No.15008079
    I think the supervillan spin makes it /tg/ territory.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)01:35 No.15008685
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)02:13 No.15009024

    I think he's saying that those two boards are the purest environs for trolls, and it would be prudent to go watch them in their native habitat for a bit and look for ideas.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)02:22 No.15009131
    I like a idea of a /b/tard with great powers being a villain.

    I defiantly have him be someone they never meet till the end or near end. have him be someone they have to follow and find.

    Who is the Master Troll.

    I would not have him as an opportunistic troll but someone with a plan. Setting something up for maxim trolling and have the party be the one who pull the trigger.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:37 No.15011654
    Since when do trolls ever have a plan beyond shitting on everything in every possible way that comes to them, then feed on tears of rage and shame?

    I think the most trollish supervillain plans start by baiting the general population. Pretend to be an advanced alien race, or even an angel descended from above, who will usher all of humanity into a new age of peace and wisdom.
    The first key step to enlightenment; superglue your balls to a weathervane, I dunno...
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:43 No.15011686
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    you can't go wrong with presenting instances of "troll physics" and actually making them work for the master troll.

    I can just imagine a character like that using goofy ass machines that violate all sorts of physical laws as his get away vehicles, all while making the obligatory face while he makes his escape.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:45 No.15011705
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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:46 No.15011710
    Now that's a decent power. Basically the waaagh, but sort of amplified.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:48 No.15011724
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    so, troll physics thread?

    >Galileo's isholide
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:50 No.15011732
    >mutants and masterminds
    >master troll
    well yeah, that makes perfect sense. both are fucking terrible and think they are great
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:51 No.15011742
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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:51 No.15011743
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    i can just imagine something where the more retarded it is, and the more likely to cause anger in the people around to witness it, the more likely it is to work
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:53 No.15011753
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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:54 No.15011758
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    >infinite money and apples
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:55 No.15011763
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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:56 No.15011768
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    >tlecor research
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:57 No.15011771
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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:58 No.15011774
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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:58 No.15011775
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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)08:59 No.15011784
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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)09:00 No.15011790
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    for the more mathematical-minded troll
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)09:01 No.15011795
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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)09:02 No.15011797
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    /tg/ was working on a homebrew project like that a while ago called Trollpunk
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)09:02 No.15011799
    that would be fucking hilarious if it was real
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)09:02 No.15011801
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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)09:03 No.15011804
    Seriously, OP, just have some career criminal who pretty much knows every troll physics trick in the book, and you have an excellent opponent right there.

    I mean he'd be some sort of imbecile time traveling billionare who can't be caught cause he's always floating away or surfing on light waves or whatever or driving open topped through space.

    you have someone who's mental grasp of science is still in the crayon stage, and instead of being impeded by this, gains power from this.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)09:08 No.15011821
    They said it didn't work. Called me a troll for claiming it did they said.
    But they don't know of what happened when I later tried. It may have injured my head, but now the physics around me bend to my ideas.
    With this, my understanding have grown to become absolute, when applied to me. Who is the troll now? They claimed I was the troll, but with this in hand weren't they the trolls?
    But if they want me to be the troll, then sure, I can take that place. Let them step aside, for the Master Troll!
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)09:09 No.15011824
    I second this motion, it would be perfect for a Silver Age villain, and all the tricks listed here are good examples.
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    For a minute there I was convinced it should work.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)09:11 No.15011834
    it doesn't?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)09:14 No.15011841

    and this is the kind of villainy that OP's villain does - convince people that troll logic is real...

    which either makes fools of the victims - or even gets them killed
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)09:15 No.15011846

    i want to try this
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)10:30 No.15012219
    surface tension dood, doesnt work on a large scale.
    the molecules stay the same size, there are just more of them.
    same reason tiny insects are so strong
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)10:38 No.15012263
    >surface tension dood

    Dammit, again my childish hopes are crushed by well-educated prinnies ;_;
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)11:09 No.15012537
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    imagine the look on your players faces when this actually works

    or a solar panel catching the light from a flashlight powered by that same solar panel

    or an electric car powered endlessly by the electricity generated by its own wheels

    overunity machines, overunity machines fucking everywhere. And Master Troll has them laying around like discarded toys or powering mundane appliances
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)11:44 No.15012768
    Is there even a power to do unlogical stuff in M&M?
    I mean, there are the almighty powers and magic related stuff basically allowing you to do whatever, but that really isn't exactly the same thing.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)11:45 No.15012776
    Urgh I dislike the misuse of the word troll almost as much as I dislike the misuse of the words fail and epic.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)11:53 No.15012830
    That's because you're thinking of the wrong "troll" as the root derivative. It's a fishing term.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)11:57 No.15012879

    I thought about the same
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)12:02 No.15012920

    Oh no I know it is based on the fishing term.

    The problem is that the fishing term is based around dropping a line (or numerous lines) into a shoal and hoping for bites.

    The internet term grew from people doing the same thing with threads, dropping a "line" into the mass and seeing if anyone would bite.

    These days though if you say anything someone disagrees with you are apparently "trolling."

    Also it is impossible to "troll" a single person as the line is focused at a single target. If anything that is more like catching a single fish with a small net.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)12:14 No.15012993
    They are currently looking into air supply technologies like this. But either massed gardens and/or genetically altered algae with quick oxygen return.
    That does work to a minor degree.
    But only slightly and the sustained heat may damage the solar panels.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)12:32 No.15013134
    It wouldn't work. No cappilary effect.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)12:34 No.15013158
    >That does work to a minor degree.
    No. It doesn't. All you do is focus the same effect. But the effect remains constant; You will even lose some of the effect which will be absorbed as heat.

    You're an idiot.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)12:40 No.15013207
    OH MY GOD! It's the Trollmaster!
    Help, please, won't someone save us??
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)12:49 No.15013277
    im stealing the trollmaster. this is too good to not be used. and my little nephews who are under 10 will love it.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)14:00 No.15013812
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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)14:03 No.15013839
    He has to have a Joker grin.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)14:05 No.15013854
    oh yes.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)14:44 No.15014151
    Bump, because I mean, c'mon, OC drawfaggotry needs love.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)14:56 No.15014226

    Looks familiar, art thou medic?

    in any case that's well done, but you forgot his magnet shields and solar panel
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)15:08 No.15014288
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    naw not medic

    a more thorough approach...
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)15:38 No.15014491
    Who would win in a fight against Balls of Arms Man?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)15:49 No.15014556
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    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)15:51 No.15014577
    Awww yeah! Final destination, baby!
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)17:48 No.15015544
    Wow. Great.

    But can you actually make this work in M&M? Or would you have to houserule it?
    >> Fishtrawler 05/22/11(Sun)21:53 No.15017950
    Victorious example, drawfag!
    The Master Troll shall surely bring much fear and rage to his victims.
    Also, Batman is useless against the Master Troll.

    Say, since he is called the Master Troll, won't he have Thralls who follow him and can successfully imitate some small troll physics for their crime spree?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)23:01 No.15018539
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    i like that idea!

    You can have them act like the obnoxious people who just discovered some brand new trend and don't realize they are ramming it face first into the ground, Like the people that would not stop with "i'm rick james, bitch" or "I'm on a boat" or just discovered the use of "u mad?"

    you know the type.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/11(Sun)23:51 No.15019059
    The water isn't held in by surface tension, it's held by the pressure differential on each side. You'd get spillage, but in principle it's sound.
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)03:21 No.15020900
    I have just had the epiphany that troll physics is essentially cartoon physics. Painting holes in objects that turn into real holes and the like. Bugs bunny: the ultimate troll?
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)03:30 No.15020953
    Bugs Bunny is the original troll.
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)03:41 No.15021036
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    You mean you didn't know?
    If I had a nickel for every time a character made a rage face because of Bugs, I could buy the rights to Walt Disney's undead corps!
    I mean, look at that smug bastard!
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)03:55 No.15021113
    Big difference though in the principles of each.
    Cartoon Physics work because it's funny, silly, or an ass-pull to get them out of a dangerous situation. Bugs would either do something rage-inducing, or when trapped would pull out a ridiculous costume or toon-tech-tool from nowhere (also, the original Hammerspace).

    The principles of Troll physics are: purposeful misinterpretation, erroneous extrapolation, and ignorant cause-effect theory.
    Misinterpretaion: Wordplay, such as "pen is mightier than sword", and using that to defeat Excalibur, and Literalism, such as the "now that you can handle chopsticks, now you can pick up anything" and then being able to lift cars and boulders.
    Extrapolation: Since sunblock can block radiation from the sun, then I can walk into a nuclear reactor and be just fine! Or the one with the giant straw of water.
    Ignorant Theory: Magnets can push or pull metal, so if I wear can wear a magnet helmet, all bullets will go to my helmet, because bullets are made of lead, and lead is a metal!

    Gah, late night brain produces crappy examples. Could another gentleman give this a shot?
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)04:35 No.15021428
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    I have an origin story for the Master Troll!
    One day while browsing 4chan, a man-child was typing away at his computer, a shit eating grin on his face. "Today," he thought, "is the day I show them all! No board can resist my bait, no mod can permaban me!" His grin grew ever wider as he checked the dozens of tabs he had open, each one open to a thread on each board; threads that he would destroy utterly.
    Over the next few hours, he trolled Anon anonymously, his evil thoughts deafening his ears to the cries of his mother for dinner, and the deep rollings of thunder in the distance. He trolled the /b/tards, the fa/tg/uys, the /x/enophiles and the /mu/tants. He fed upon the rage of the /v/irgins and /co/mrades, and drank deep the tears of the /sp/orties and the /lit/fags. His bans were numerous, but so was he, for where one b&-hammer fell, two more proxies appeared to foil the mods. Everywhere within the imageboard, outcries of fury and despair filled the threads as the controversy, the spamming and the fur-faggotry struck again and again unabated, causing some anons to call out for the tripfags and namefags to defend them where the mods either would not or could not, declareing that Summer and the end-times were upon them.
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)04:35 No.15021429
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    >undead corps

    i always knew in my gut he had some kind of militarized zombie force stashed away somewhere!
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)04:37 No.15021443
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    With a crackling of thunder accompanying, the man-child cackled and guffawed without restraint, as he took in the rage and tears of the collective hivemind of Anonymous, whatever semblance of his human heart shriveling into a void of loneliness and spite wholly fulfilled.
    He had done it. He had trolled all of 4chan, lurkers, posters, and moderators alike. Even Moot had appeared, and in scant minutes had succumbed.
    He had WON.

    But with a massive explosion of light and sound, lightning struck the house, shattering the windows and popping the lights, zapping through the poor wiring of the house and exploding his computer, shocking the man-child in a flash of pain and suffering he had never felt before, The electrical energy of the bolt throwing him back onto the floor, his chair crumpling under the force of his massive weight and ego.

    Coming to after a few moments of infinity and near-death visions, the man-child stirred, his hands and minds lightly burned by the electrical shock he had received, traumatising and unalterably changing him by the experience.
    His previous thoughts frozen his mind, his heart still full of emotion and his body shocked into numbness, he felt the collective spite of a thousand trolls flowing through him, the negative emotion of a million impotent souls fueling his body and soul.
    Thus was the beginning of the Master Troll.

    >What do you think?
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)04:38 No.15021453
    Go look up Mysterio and pretty much everything he has ever done.

    There's your troll supervillain.
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)04:40 No.15021477
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    he sounds like some sort of bizarro-Freakazoid

    where Freakazoid was sucked into the internet, Master Troll was practically booted out of it.
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)04:46 No.15021519
    if your PCs never manage to kill him, he should really leave the game in the dumbest manner possible.

    like putting a little prop airplane inside some kind of air tight transparent container (so it can take its own air with it) and go off to explore the cosmos. His last words to mankind being "problem nasa?"
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)04:47 No.15021529
    Yes, but he took the Internet with him.
    Now, as long as it makes sense to his twisted mind, magnets provide infinite power, jumping of moving objects is harmless, and anyone who falls under his thrall will do their best to enrage the superheroes by whatever means necessary, including not dying properly.
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)05:01 No.15021610
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    me gusta

    >mensa ivedur

    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)05:31 No.15021776

    >kyousi sermon.
    That's no help captcha, though the Troll Master may certainly do one just to piss off any nearby religious types.

    Meybe we should use Captcha to name the Troll master?
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)06:12 No.15022081
    >I have an origin story for the Master Troll!
    Wasn't this what this >>15011821 was?
    Whateer works.
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)07:28 No.15022571
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    James you are off your meds again.
    You're wearing the suit.
    C'mon turn yourself in and I promise this Saturday we'll play darts....
    ...the soft kind.
    >> Anonymous 05/23/11(Mon)07:37 No.15022619

    >cover obviously says "CollegeHumor.com"
    >> /co/mra/d/eTeyar !eVVYqfxP7Y 05/23/11(Mon)08:01 No.15022755
    You'll want to research Frekazoid, and the Mask, for stuff. Buggs bunny, too, believe it or not.

    Remember that while so bad its good comedy sort of works for any jaded pack of gamers - the heart of trolldom is watching ONE person get implausibly PISSED THE FUCK OFF over something and having everyone else / or a plausible belief in said bastard's bombastic believability.

    Some Marauders from old Mage might be good, actually. Any equivalents from modern?

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