Weirdest thing. Every time we write stuff down? It goes missing. We had a couple of people look into it but they either stopped talking to us and shut themselves off from everyone, or they just... vanished.

>>15053305

Then it's time to roll up our sleeves and get to work. We need a Chapter Master, we need tales of valor and their exploits. We need rules, stats, etc.

It's time to bring Istvaan's Children into the light, so to speak.

rolled 65 = 65

Well lets get to it.

Do the scary marines have a battle cry?

>>15053366

No. They are utterly silent. This will help give you a better idea of what Istvaan's Children are like.

http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Scary_Marines

>>15053393
Well it doesnt look like they have a rites of battle statline. We could start with that if anyone has the charts.

>>15053417

Agreed. There is pitifully little to work with, so we'll have to start making things up.

Found it on scribd. First table is on why our chapter was originally founded.

The chart given shows
1-4 strategic prognostication
5-6 counter
7-8 standing force
9-10 crusade.

Why have the scary marines been founded?

I would have to say that the scary marines are perfect as a Counter chapter. Having them go around scaring the crap out of everyone and everything.

>>15053519

I don't know how to roll with the board, but I do have my dice ready. Rolled a 9, so they were created to fight some crusade somewhere. Let's work out the details.

>>15053547
Ahh, the Dice are Dice+XdY

or Noko+Dice+XdY

rolling as well

rolled 8 = 8

>>15053573
it would help if i typed it correctly

rolled 3 = 3

Rolling as well.

>>15053547 (continuation)

I believe the chapter should be officially named "Istvaan's Children". It has a nice ring to it, much better than the "Legio Vereor" and less childish than "Scary marines".

With the name though, there might be some relation in people's minds between the chapter and the planet Istvaan V that got fucked up during the Horus Heresy. This might also mean that the chapter could have been founded not too long after the Heresy from Night Lord gene seed?

rolled 3 = 3

>>15053595
>>15053584
>>15053547

So with a 3,8, and 9 our options are Standing force, Crusade, or Strategic Prognostication. Which one sounds the most fitting for the scary marines?

rolled 3 = 3

>>15053607
Well the dropsite massacre happened on Istvaan V This leads me to believe that there are 4 other planets by the name of Istvaan in the same system. Perhaps one of those would be the chapters homeworld?

>>15053624

Strategic Prognostication sounds good. From what is already written about them they seem to be a special forces chapter excelling in infiltration, stealth, and psychological warfare.

rolled 45 = 45

>>15053671
Strategic Prognostication it is! (also adopting a name.)

The next table decides when the chapter was founded. Its a lot to write though, but the roll is 1d100 and ill will write out the results.

Rolling

rolled 73 = 73

>>15053723
derp

rolled 35 = 35

>>15053729
hehe, between the two of us, our options are

45 - 37th millenium, after the culmination of the reign of blood.

and

73 -40thmillenium, as the imperium slides into the age of waning.

after the reign of blood, the children of istvaan could have been created as a prevention measure alongside the ordo hereticus which was created at the same time if my memory of fluff serves me right.

>>15053781

37th millennium it is then. Sounds about right with the creation of the Ordo Hereticus.

allright then, going with the 37th millenuim, now we determine our progenitors.

Do we wish to go along with them being a loyal successor of the nightlords? If so then we can ignore the rolling chart as that is not on it.

If not however, we need another 1d100. Im all for them being nightlord successors, definitely be interesting.

>>15053843
Agreed. Let's stick with the Night Lords as their progenitor.

rolled 2 = 2

allright next up is Genestock purity.

this one requires a 1d10

sorry for the slow posting.

rolled 6 = 6

>>15053891

Alright, here we go.

>>15053901

Nah, it's fine. We're making good progress.

>>15053906
your roll makes more sense.

our options are
2 = the genestock is pure.
and
6=A new generation. Attempts have been made to breed out real or percieved flaws in the progenitors gene stock. Perhaps trying to hardwire loyalty?

>>15053929

Ah yes, that's perfect. That are a successor chapter to the Heretical Night Lords, so a few tweaks to the gene seed to ensure loyalty would be a really feasible scenario.

rolled 1 = 1

Next up is Codex Demeanours,

Another 1d10 roll on chapter characteristics.

although im partial to no mercy no respite.

rolled 3 = 3

>>15054017

Sounds about right, but let's see what we get and move from there.

Actually, looking at the table, I see:

See, But Don't Be Seen (The Chapter understands well the value of maintaining a silent, unseen vigil on the foe, striking only when his target is at its weakest and most vulnerable)

Which is fitting, but No mercy, No respite is also good. Hmm, tough choice.

rolled 3 = 3

>>15054040
HAHA Your roll is no mercy no respite.

Options are
1= swift as the wind. The battle brothers of the chapter may excel at rapid strikes and lightning raids, but the trait extends to every facet of character. They are quick to anger as they are to jest. They can be impatient but display great personal initiative. While not rash or foolhardy such battlebrothers believe in the value of immediate action.

3=No Mercy, No Respite! these battlebrothers have no concept of defeat, and would rather die than accept that once battle is joined it will not be won. They are stubborn in the face of adversity, and are capible of awe inspiring feats of courage. On occasion, some battlebrothers have been known to ignore secondary objectives, somtimes to the detriment of the larger plan, and some have even been known to ignore orders from higher up on the chain of command when serving alongside other forces.

rolled 10 = 10

>>15054117
Well, now I know not to type out everything since you are looking at the table as well.

See but dont be seen seems to fit the chapter well.

rolled 6 = 6

So the question becomes, do we want to go with the No mercy no respite, or take see but dont be seen?

>>15054134

Let's stick with See, But don't be seen. Normally I don't like to cherry pick, but we already have a model for what the chapter is like. Right now we're all about filling in the details. Fleshing them out, you know?

rolled 5 = 5

>>15054170
Exactly.

next table is Geen Seed Deficiency, and chance of gene seed mutation. This comes down to when the gene seed of the night lords was taken. If It is some rare stock before the heresy, then I would say that it is on the level of ultramarine purity other than the Night lord changes. (eyes change to black, skin changes to very very pale.)

However if its geneseed taken from disloyal night lords, It is noted that they remain suprisingly pure, but is still lower on the level than that of imperial fists. (about a 20 to 30% chance of mutation?)

rolled 6 = 6

>>15054211

Sounds about right. Let's go with post-heresy Night Lords since the gene seed has been tweaked to ensure loyalty, as mentioned earlier.

rolled 8 = 8

well with a roll of 5 and 6, it means that each new battle brother has a 20 - 30 % chance to lose the function of one of the zygotes.

Looking up a list.

rolled 5 = 5

>>15054290
Entirely ceased to function. but hey, its just one right?

rolled 10 = 10

Let's see what I came up with.

rolled 5 = 5

>>15054346

Ahah, this one could be good. It has the best potential for why the Chapter is silent and operates in the dark. Might I suggest

Oversensitive Occulobe
and
Disturbing voice?

rolled 8 = 8

The list is
1 Secondary heart
2 ossmodula
3 Biscopea (one of the organs that gives the space marine such tremendous strength.)
4 Haemastamean (same as above)
5 Larramans organ
6 Catalepsean node
7 preomnor (helps against ingested poisons)
8 Omophagea (eating things give space marines insight on genetic memory)
9 Multi Lung
10 Occulobe (Grants Heightened senses)
11 Lymans ear (same as above)
12 Sus-an Membrane (Suspended animation)
13 Melanchromic organ (contributes towards toughness)
14 Oolitic kidney (contributes against poison/toxins)
15 Neuroglottis (detect poison by taste
16 Mucranoid (helps against temperament extremes
16 Betchers gland (spit acid)
17 Progenoids (Gene Seed)
18 Black Carapace (allows interface with power armour)

So which one do we cut out?

rolled 6 = 6

>>15054364
those work as well, although I was operating under the rolls from >>15054211 and >>15054254

>>15054393

Ah, my mistake. I forgot to erase the field when I posted! Sorry for the confusion. >>15054346 was supposed to be the roll on that.

rolled 10 = 10

>>15054421
Well then i vote we ignore the missing zygote, and instead go with the
Oversensitive Occulobe
and
Disturbing voice

rolled 4 = 4

>>15054441

Agreed. Next up is Chapter flaws, correct? Rolling...

rolled 9 = 9

Rolling as well

>>15054456
>>15054467
Looks like either Pride in the colors, or Chapter cult.

However I would like to suggest we take faith in suspicion. I think it fits better.

>>15054467

Chapter Cult, eh? That could have a few interesting implications. I like it.

>>15054487
Agreed. While the Cult could have been interesting I don't think it would have fit well enough.

So going with Faith in suspicion, with arm of the imperium does out chapter refuse to fight with? I'm leaning towards the ecleisiarchy. They caused the reign of blood and perhaps the Children of Istvaan watch them more than anyone else?

Faith in suspicion sounds a lot more in tune with the chapter's motif. Scary marines even scare each other - you have to know fear in order to instill it in others.

>>15054530

I'm thinking that as well, while they tend to work closely with the Ordo Hereticus.

Allright going with that then. (also probably takes care of our ally as the inquisition.)

Chapter characteristics 1d100

rolled 58 = 58

rolling

rolled 52 = 52

>>15054564

Ok, here we go.

well then... that looks like a unanimous Duty unto Death. +5 Toughness and +5 willpower.

rolled 30, 5 = 35

Next up, Chapter Heroes. 2d100 for two tables.

rolled 32, 35 = 67

>>15054603
Rolling.

Ok, Chapter master and Seconded.

rolled 81, 59 = 140

So our choices are either a Chapter master who is the bane of the orks

or a chapter master who slew a deamon prince.

>>15054645
that roll i forgot to delete the dice.

>>15054645
Bane of Orks. Sounds most reasonable.

>>15054645
Bane of Orks would be cooler to fluff.

rolled 75 = 75

Next Chart up is Homeworld, since we are the Children of Istvaan, im assuming that one of the Five Istvaan planets is our homeworld. But what kind? (ignoring fleet based?)

1d100

rolled 46 = 46

>>15054666
I agree.

rolled 63 = 63

rolling for homeworld type.

>>15054689

Death World....so much more bad ass.

rolled 72 = 72

>>15054700
>>15054681

Homeworld Category
63 - medieval world
46 - Feral world (my accidental roll by forgettting to remove the dice)
(75) - Civilised world

>>15054754

Alright civilized then. (The chart I'm using says 46 is a death world but whatevs.)

rolled 32 = 32

>>15054754
a medieval world sounds pretty cool.

rolled 20 = 20

wich chart are you using?

rolled 55 = 55

>>15054796

Ah, an impasse. Tell you what, let's roll a 1d100. High number gets it.

>>15054801

http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=83190

The chart posted here.

rolled 68 = 68

>>15054815
Rolling for Impasse hehe.

>>15054820
ahh, im using
http://www.scribd.com/doc/50729370/50594667-Deathwatch-Rites-of-Battle

>>15054852

Medieval world it is then, Congrats!

Actually come to think of it, some of the fluff sates that the scary marines sometimes take over peopls jobs, like a secretary or mailman i think the examples they gave. so that would actually make more sense on a civilized world than that of a medieval one.

>>15054887

Alright. Then we'll go with civilized world. Excellent. Now we roll for terrain, correct? I say we just go ahead and put Urban down.

>>15054920
Agreed, Going with Urban Terrain, next chart up is RElationship with the homeworld. With the willingness to take over peoples jobs directly, I would hazard to say that they Rule it directly, instead of a stewardship or a distant rule. Thoughts?

>>15054944

I would say Stewardship. They only seem to act when others aren't doing their jobs properly or when a bit of heresy or xenos influence is present, while remaining mostly distant from the populace.

rolled 1 = 1

>>15054990
true, if they are seen too often, people may even begin to stop fearing them.

Next up is Chapter Organization. With a 1d10

rolled 1 = 1

>>15055009

Right on, here we go.

>>15055026
>>15055009

perfect. A Codex chapter it is, then.

rolled 1 = 1

well, I think that's a unanimous roll for a codex chapter.

Next Chart up is Combat Doctrine, with another 1d10

I think though, we should take the stealth doctrine.

no, the terror option. thats what i meant to type , derp.

>>15055050

Yes, I was thinking either stealth or fear. Fear would be the more natural choice due to their Night Lord heritage, but stealth is also a major factor in their operations.

>>15055055

Terror it is.

Next three charts are solo and squad mode abilities. rolling a 3d100 to knock those out easily.

rolled 32, 29, 13 = 74

Rolling for solo and squad.

rolled 26, 3, 35 = 64

Third time is the charm. Deleting my failure of a post.

rolled 77, 100, 9 = 186

32, 29, 13 = Solo, this chapter is highly skilled in certain areas of experties. (Choose two skills added +10 to those skills as well as reroll) Squad mode attack Follows the guidelines of its parent chapter (could be a problem here) Solo mode Defence Same as above.

26, 3, 35 = Solo (follows parent chapter guidelines for combat) Squad atack, (same as above) Squad Defense. Courage under Fire

Should we try and determine how the Night lords would react?

>>15055174

I don't have that bit of the chart in front of me, so you can choose which would best suit this chapter.

Not many to choose from that reflect what we want.

Next Chart is Chapter specialty restrictions, and equipment.
The roll for both is 1d100, but im going to go and say that since they have such jaded view of the ecleisiarchy, they do not have chaplains.

Thoughts?

>>15055300
Agreed. No Chaplains. Special equipment, I'd say Modified weaponry (suppressed bolters)

rolled 34 = 34

Sounds good. Next up are the Chapter Beliefs. 1d100

rolled 77 = 77

rolling for beliefs.

So either Revere the Primarch, unlikely since they are loyalists, or a Death Cult.

>>15055383

Death cult, for sure.

rolled 1 = 1

Next up is Chapter status, How many of us are there? 1d10!

rolled 8 = 8

>>15055448

Here we go

rolled 4 = 4

We are either endangered and not many, or at nominal strength as the codex dictates.

quite a difference there.

rolled 4 = 4

>>15055504

The fluff doesn't mention anything about the chapter's actual strength. I think we should just mark it down as "unknown" unless we absolutely must have a number. If which is the case, I say Under strength.

>>15055529
Sounds reasonable. Next up are friends and enemies of the chapter. I would say that for friends, it should be the ordo hereticus, inquisition. and for enimies, either the ecleisiarchy, or the orks to reflect our chapter hero. Both take a 1d100 for rolls though.

Thoughts?

>>15055552

Agree for Ordo Hereticus as a friend. I think Orks would be the more dangerous enemy for the Istvaan's Children. Would also make for more interesting fluffy bits.

and that is it. The rest is livery, names, and custom abilities.

Im going to put the thread up for archive, have to go to sleep.

>>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=scary+marine

sleep well bro

>>15055621

Excellent. Thank you for your assistance. From here I'll start naming names and putting some meat on the bare bones we've laid down. All the information has been written down and preserved for future threads.

>>15055671
Well tomorrow, or this week. Ill update the 1d4chan page for future posterity and ease.

sleeping now.

>>15055686

Most excellent.

Fanart;

Tonight, you.