Natalie Portman can deploy on my battle lines any day.

The Jedi aren't exactly disorganised. If anything they're too organised in the prequels to the point of being generic and uniform.
It still sucked I loved the prequels as a kid but the Jedi battle pissed me right off even when i was 12 or 14 or whenever it came out

Disorganized hippies wouldn't even be able to hold on to a planetary system or even a single planet. But yeah teh fight on Geonosis is very disorganized. You got clone troopers charging into Droids blaster fire and aircraft with no kind of formation at all flying around blasting each other.
The only thing that IS organise is how the Jedi just sunddenly appear out of fucking nowhere at the same time.

"Oh, yeah. I guess holding the Wookie planet for one more day is kinda super important. Thanks for reminding us big-head dude."

What pisses me off is how Lucas cuts any tension in his scenes with terrible slapstick and/or a complete lack of serious reaction from anyone in the scene.

>>15979568
I hate her face. There's something just wrong with it.

And she has the body of a child.

Do not want.

>>15979578
>Disorganized hippies wouldn't even be able to hold on to a planetary system or even a single planet.
GM fiat. Works every time.

>>15979609
The only thing wrong with her face is that it's not currently on my dick. She is smoking hot.

>>15979609
That's because she is Jewish, like the rest of the SW cast, because George JEWcas was the director.

>>15979641
I've NEVER understood people's attraction to her.

I guess I'm just a Scarlett Johanson man.

The only problem with the battle of Geonosis is that the vast majority of the Jedi were taught in the shittiest possible lightsaber form ever while receiving barely any training in the Force, making them mooks at best, who rely on status to do anything vaguely important.

>>15979681
I love Dooku's style of lightsaber fightan. My fave.

>>15979681
Yep.

Also, I fucking hate how they refer to moves as 'forms.'
An upward swing is not a fucking form, it's a fucking upward swing.

Master race lightsaber form here. All others are small time.

>>15979737
Forms aren´t moves.

Their styles.

The word form is also used in certain martial arts, so it´s not that odd.

>>15979756
they´re

fuck me

>>15979609
This guy is fucking insane!

>>15979744

Yes.

>>15979713
>>15979680
Scarlett johansson is not exceptionally attractive if we disregard tits.

Jedis are not just hippies, they're also high all the time.
Remember when Mace Windu went to confront the Emperor with three of his most powerful Jedi Masters? They all watched in awe as the Emperor jumped next to them and cut them down in one swing.
Fucking useless stoners.

>>15979744
filename.jpeg

hilarious.

>>15979767
That bitch is ugly. I don't know how anyone can be attracted to that.

>>15979767
Meh, I'm kinda over Natalie Portman. She delivers competent acting in half her films, only a couple of which really stand out as anything special. She's pretty enough under specific makeup and lighting, but she's certainly not the sex goddess some the internet and media like to portray her as.

I never had a problem with it there hadn't been a major war for over 1000 years.

Nobody on either side had any idea of how to fight one. it happens in real life too, the battle of Paris during WWI was decided by taxis for crying out loud.

>>15979795
That and she will not age gracefully. Seriously, look at those cheeks. Guaranteed she'll look like a grandmother by the time she hits 40.

What confuses me about Star Wars is that the only noticeable breakthrough in technology between the Old Republic and the Empire is tractor beams. For fuck's sake, the galaxy spends most of its time in war, where are the weapon innovations?

>>15979825
Star Wars isn't really science fiction. Its a fantasy story with science fiction trappings.

>>15979825

Its because every few hundred years, some jackass gets it in his mind that the galaxy would be better off if someone killed most of the jedi. He then goes out and does so. The galaxy instantly falls into complete and utter chaos and anarchy for a century or two while the Jedi rebuild their numbers as everyone else is playing Fallout IRL. Then a century or five down the road, they've reached about the same level of technology they were at before, when the same thing happens.

>>15979825
The planet destroyer isn't innovative enough?

>If you've ever wondered how a war would be run by disorganized hippies, here it is.

The Culture would like to have a word with you.

>>15979825
There's a few thousand year gap between the Republic which the Empire took over and the Old republic from KotOR. Civilization collapsed and anarchy with roaming warlords ruled for three thousand years. During that time, most people were busy trying to scavenge for food and trying to salvage useful materials from radioactive craters that used to be factories instead of developing Hyperdrive Mk37a.

>>15979851

Case in point: Prequel trilogy, many jedi, everything looks shiny and new.

Original trilogy, three jedi, everything is used and beat to hell and back. Only new things in that time period were the two death stars.

>>15979855
>implying superweapons were new when the Empire started making the Death Star
>implying Malak and the Exile weren't destroying planets before it was cool
>he doesn't know about the Dark Reaper project!
>laughingsith.jpg

Lets not forget that they are extremely shitty because all they do is to sit on the sideline, complain, complain some more, and ignore reality.

>>15979867
Prequels: Galaxy spanning hyper-internet.
Original Trillogy: Computers are mysterious forgotten technology and only understood by pre-empire built robots.

>>15979867
Not even that, really. Sure, the actual construction took a while, but the design was already done in the prequels.

>>15979870

The sheer number of superweapons developed during the reign of the Empire is kinda impressive though.

Three death stars
The Sun Crusher
World Devastators
Eclipse class Star Dreadnaughts
The Darksaber
A half dozen super viruses
The Tarkin
The Eye of Palpatine
That orbital cloaking device that would starve a planet of sunlight
Shit thats just the ones I can remember off the top of my head.

Yeah but fighting a war the proper way isn't the Jedi way. I don't think the Confederacy would hold back on Planetary Bombardment as I imagine the Jedi would.

Even still, while the show is quite entertaining and has some good episodes the thinly veiled left wing message it pushes annoys me a bit.

Also, KotOR had swords that could not be cut by lightsabers. Where did that tech go? Why wasn't it adapted into armors, shields and lightsaber-proof blast doors? Or is it Not Canon?

>>15979922
It's expensive as fuck, last I checked. Or something like that.

>>15979922
Grevious's robot guards have staffs made of that stuff IIRC.

>>15979926
Which is why every security guard had one.

>>15979851
Jedis? The same dickheads that sit in their temple and kidnap children?
The same dickheads who never do anything?
The same dickheads who allow civilisation to decay because it would take effort to get up from meditation position?
The same dickheads who refuse to tell the truth?
Right..........

>>15979922
Lucas declared it noncanon because "nothing should be able to stop a lightsaber, with the exception of another lightsaber."

>>15979922

Its expensive as fuck. Basically a required expense when there were millions to billions of Jedi around, not so much when there are like ten thousand.

>>15979777
Good thing I don't disregard tits then. On the contrary.

>>15979932
Considering it was the Republic at the height of its powers and they were fighting a foe that pretty much had dark Jedi as frontline troops... you're damn right they'd spring the cash for weapons that wouldn't break and get their wielder killed on contact with the enemy.

>>15979933

Prove me wrong.

Many Jedi = Glorious civilization.
No Jedi = Shithole universe with some petty tyrant ruling over it.

>>15979922
Firstly, anything not jizzed out by Lucas himself is non-canon.
Secondly, cortosis is exceedingly rare and brittle.
Thirdly, anyone using a lightsaber has incentive to destroy knowledge of its existence and possible uses. The Jedi and Sith are always at or close to the top of any hierarchy and would therefore be well placed to ensure the loss of this knowledge, the destruction of any existing weapons, and the termination of any mining near where the stuff is found.

For a second I thought I was on /tv/

>>15979952
No Jedi around = no Sith around = NORMAL PEOPLE CAN START LIVING THEIR LIVES WITHOUT GODDAMN JESUS FREAK TERRORISTS WITH LASERSWORDS TERRORISING THE HOOD!

>>15979934
So a fighter equipped with lightsabers is the ultimate kill machine?

>>15979956
And now Greedo can ply his trade.

>>15979922
It was adapted, It's called Cortosis.

Used in Armor it wouldn't stop a Lightsaber, it would fucking de-activate it. The material itself is very expensive, I believe the Empire used it sparingly on same of the more advanced Dark Trooper models, it's why Lighstabers spark against Dark Troopers in Jedi Academy.

The best way to use Cortosis is to lull a Jedi/Sith into killing you, have there Saber short out upon contact and kill them in the surprise.

>>15979969
Only pure cortosis does that. Cortosis-weave weapons merely block lightsabers, and cortosis-weave armor degrades quickly and isn't 100% effective.

>>15979958
A fighter surrounded with remote controlled Lightsabers can fly through a Star Destroyer.

Remote controlled so you can actually get into the thing and then activate them.

Corotis ore (The material used in the swords you're referencing) is EXTREMELY hard to mine. You basically need to extract it by hand or its useless, and if you touch it with bare skin before its refined, you're gonna get an electric shock with enough juice to fry a goddamn HUTT. And those fuckers not only have energy resistant enzymes in their sweat, but they're about the size of a bull elephant. Plus you have to wear hazard gear 24/7 since its like abestos, if dust gets in your lungs, you get super space cancer. And that same dust jams up the tools you need to use to extract it in the first place.

Then you have to make a sword using exactly the right technique or the lightsaber will just chop though it anyways.

You can see why people might not bother making swords like that anymore when there were maybe a few thousand Jedi in the universe. Ohh some wealthy crime boss might be able to get one custom made, but Joe Deathsticks isn't.

>>15979952
I could point you at the Mandalorian wars in the Old Republic. But that is outside of normal canon.
In Episode 4 you see a random farmer, going into the house of another farmer, they visit the shitties hellhole in a shitty spaceport, travels in a spaceship thats pro is "engineered like a pro" and not "its new damn it! Paid by the Republic!".
The rest of it is when we are following a bunch of starved Rebel ragtags without a proper defence or founding, who will slowly succumb to lack of finance.
But take a look at Cloud City, or the entire Death star interior. Their shiny, and stilish, and new.
In Episode 1-3 they go around in "da latest byroucratic douchbaggs appartments" and use "gubment muney to found spacecrafts", and run away with a spacecraft that basically a gigantic pile of bribe money.
Of course it looks shiner, Because we never get too see anything else.
Prove me wrong.

>>15979777
I think you mean "Pretty much everything about Scarlett Johanson is perfect."

>>15979956
the force doesn't work like that

if all the jedi and all the sith suddenly blink out of existence. The next generation will still produce force-sensitive people.

If you have force sensitive people, conflict is inevitable. Just like if you have money, or religion, or politics, or emotions.

Getting rid of the Jedi/Sith doesn't solve anything, they'll just come back.
If you want to really solve the problem, you have to eliminate the force altogether

>>15979922
They used it all up for Darth Vader's armour.

Also, some Jedi faggot managed to score a cortosis sword, and tried to assassinate Darth Vader.

So Darth Vader force choked the bitch, stole her cortosis blade and butchered the Jedi backup.

During the whole fight, his lightsaber was deactivated.

It doesn't matter how much I hate Star Wars, Darth Vader will always remain the ultimate badass.

>>15979956

And then Lord Emperor Killfrenzy the Seventh rises up and enslaves your planet along with hundreds across the galaxy. Don't you wish you had some Jedi to throw down his empire now?

>>15979996
go to bed Kreia

>>15979934
Which is also fucking hilarious, because he contradicted HIS OWN FUCKING MOVIES by doing so.

>>15979996

>Eliminate an energy field produced by all living things.

Yeah unless you're a droid, good luck with that.

>>15980007
To be fair, mandalorian slaves rarely complain about being slaves. That whole lobotomy, surgical reconstruction for slave work and pain inducing obedience implants help.

>>15980007
Who cares, that's why they invented blasters.

I pop the motherfucker right through his ass, because I've grown some balls because I don't need no Jedi fuckup to stand up for my rights.

>>15980042

And he laughs and then cuts you down with a vibroblade after his men rape your family.

>>15980042
You're going to shoot at the guy wielding a lightsaber. Who not only knows what you're going to do before you do it, but can choke you from halfway across the goddamn room.

Or from over a kilometre away through a video screen.

There is a reason why the way they brought down the Jedi in Order 66 was with overwhelming firepower. On some occasions, they simply didn't bother throwing men at them, and just carpet bombed everything for kilometres in every direction.

>>15979934
In fact, he demanded that one such sword be changed into a light-katana that glows black. When will he retire?

>>15979956

Since when did no Jedi mean no Sith? Fuck, even without the Sith, there are still plenty of evil groups of Force users out there who would be happy to descend on the galaxy as soon as the Jedi were out of the way.

So if there are no Jedi and Sith, the universe will get taken over by Mandalorians and Decepticons.

Why did Kreia cook up her plan again?

>>15979983
If it was THAT expensive, dangerous and unreliable, why bother equipping half of your army with them? Especially when your enemies are supernaturally better than you at sword-fighting. Seems to me that giving your troops better guns and a couple extra grenades would be cheaper AND more effective.

>>15980059
But no one can force choke anymore, because all the Jedi pussies are EXTINCT!

>>15980029
One of many things missing from Star Wars.

>>15980076
Phrik is better, but rarer.

One container of the stuff survived Alderaan blowing up.

Yeah. It got hit with a planet busting superlaser, and THEN the planet blew up beneath it. And it was perfectly fine.

>>15980076
Rule of Cool

>>15980076

Because the enemy can pretty much ignore said blasters and grenades will just be tossed back at your own men.

Who cares, it was an asspull on biowares part to explain why they didn't have a sundering mechanic for lightsabers.

>>15980051
>bring a vibroblade to a blaster battle
>get shot in the face

And that was the end of the quick but terrible reign of Lord Emperor Killfrenzy the Seventh.

Because he was a retard who couldn't properly understand the principles of long-distance combat.

>>15980090
There is much more out there than Jedi. They're one of many organisations and societies. What sets them apart is that they're the ones who, thousands of years back, decided to become more actively involved in galactic affairs.

And they're in the movies, obviously.

>>15980090

Yeah all the jedi, but theres a billion other dark side force using groups out there, that the jedi were convivently serving to keep the numbers down.

>>15980076

Shield technology. Someone wearing an energy shield and using cover can close the distance to a dude on a spaceship really quickly, and the only thing that can effectively get past shields without expending a lot of energy is vibroswords.

>>15980101
>Because the enemy can pretty much ignore said blasters
You have to be pretty damn good to just ignore blasters. At least if Star Wars D20 (aka the rule system used in KotOR) is any indication.

>>15980102
>Killfrenzy uses his dark side power to suck your blaster shot into your palm, because hes a fucking boss like that.

Then he laughs at you, and guts you while you have a look of shock on your face.

>>15980101
>and grenades will just be tossed back at your own men.

Hahahahah. Not if they're SONIC GRENADES! BANG! BANG! FEUERFREI!

Jedi can't into the Force when their ears are ringing. And that's fucking canon.

>>15980102
Mandalorian armor is blasterproof. Enjoy your new pain inductor slave implant.

>>15980112
So they ripped off Dune?

>>15980118
Uh... yes, they will. The grenades will be tossed back at you, and then the sonic goes off in your face.

>>15980112

Ohh yeah, I forgot, thats the other half of the explanition for Cortois ore weapons. They invented energy shields, so it lead to a resurgance of meele weapons on the battlefield, and coupled with the high number of Jedi/Sith at the time, they needed something to protect against one jackass with a laser sword.

>>15980117
No he doesn't. Like I'm stupid enough to use a blaster on a Force user so close by.

If he's close enough to Force bullshit on me, I'm not using a blaster, I'm using grenades and slug throwers.

HK-47 has taught me well. He should teach everyone.

When even the smallest child knows the weaknesses of Jedi or Sith or whatever the fuck I don't give a shit, then the universe will be at peace.

>>15980124
Mandalorian iron also has an inherent weak point to it. Tap it even lightly, and it shatters all over the place. One Force power can easily let you perceive said weak point.

Repeated strikes/hits to a single spot will also cause it to break or otherwise shatter.

>>15980135
HK-47 only follows force users, so TROLOLOLOLOLO

>>15980135
Agreement: Indeed, my good meatbag.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPeI4mX8Nus

>>15980135
HK-47 is smart. Prepare the battlefield, lay traps, endanger innocent lives (Jedi are suckers for that sort of thing). Above all, never engage with them on anything approaching a level field, or where they happen to be strong. Which essentially means:

1. Stay out of melee range.
2. Make it too risky for them to use the Force and turn you into a pinata.
3. Stay out of melee range.
4. Area effect tactics.
5. Stay out of melee range.
6. Don't be a moron and shoot a Jedi with a blaster.
7. STAY AWAY FROM MELEE RANGE AND THE CUT-EVERYTHING LASER SWORD.

And it still won't always work.

>>15980127
Who cares. I'm wearing a helmet, the Jedi fuck is wearing a robe.

I don't suffer from the sonic shockwave, but the Jedi is. Regardless of the location of the sonic grenade.

BECAUSE IT'S A SONIC GRENADE AND NOT A FRAG GRENADE, IDIOT!

This thread reminds me why I hate the Star Wars EU even more than the prequels.

>HK-47 taught me

No he fucking didn't. You're some goddamn colonist on a outer rim planet. HK-47 would sooner gut you then go about how awesome it is to kill jedi.

>Grenade
>Close enough to use force powers

Since most frag grenades have a 50 meter shrapnel radius, It's good to see you're willing to die for the cause. Meanwhile I give the Jedi a 50/50 chance to protect himself with some Telekinetic wall or something.

>Slug thrower

Hope you enjoy having only four to eight shots when some dude is charging at you. Plus Jedi (or at least Obi Wan) can deflect that shit with the force. See the Clone Wars Series. The awesome one. Not the new one.

>>15980146
Don't forget grenades, mines, gas weapons, chemical weapons, sonic weapons, poison weapons, flechettes, shotguns, machineguns, explosives, mercenaries, combat droids, sniper rifles.

>>15980149
Setting aside you continually moving the goalposts, what happens when he tosses the grenade as hard as he can away from him?

Or when the Jedi is wearing armour himself?

>>15980157
>jedi
>wearing armour

Don't you mean Sith, you goalpost moving faggot?

>>15980168
> gas weapons
They tried that in Episode 1
Jedi have the lung capacity of expert freedivers.

>>15980149

>Jedi wearing a robe

Jesus, I've told the council again and again, but NOOOOOO, they'd rather keep having guys gutted by some spice addict in a bar fight. Meanwhile I'll be over here with that suit of battle armor I pulled off a merc. It didn't take that much effort to fit propery, and It's a lot better then my bare flesh for that one blaster bolt I miss.

>>15980180
Obi-Wan wears it in the Clone Wars TV series.

He's not the only one. They're not morons.

>>15980180
Jedi wear armor
It's in the trailers for TOR
It's in that vidya with starkiller, Force Unleashed.
It's in the Clone Wars.

Just saying it's documented canon for Jedi to wear various forms of battle armor.
Anyway, carry on flaming each other, I just wanted to point this out.

>>15980183
They use the Force to cheat. It gives them something like quadruple the time or more than some of the best "normal" athletes have.

>>15980202

>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi_armor

So I think by this point we're more or less proven that Jedi killing for non force sensitives requires either extreme skill, something unlikely to be found in most people or extreme luck, see above.

Or outnumbering them a few thousand to one and betraying them in the midst of a war.

>>15980183
That's why you use gas weapons that work on skin contact instead of inhalation, like mustard gas.

>>15980183
>fighting against Jedi
>betting on one trick pony

You poison them, you detonate sonic bombs on them, a squad of droids drop in, meanwhile a merc starts killing kids, a sniper keeps shooting at the Jedi from a distance and around the corner is a huge alien with a huge shotgun waiting.

THAT'S how you kill a Jedi.

By playing Command & Conquer.

>>15980197


Jedi confirmed for cleric/divine caster ;)

>>15980222
Or mines.
Or flamethrowers.
Or cluster rockets.
Or chemical weapons.

To name a few.

for anyone that hasn't seen the trailers for The Old Republic, go watch them.

They are better than the entire prequel series.
I also love how the same characters in the three, the jedi with the green dual saber, the commando/soldier guy, and that one sith (who continues to look more and more badass in every trailer)

It seems like they are releasing the trailers in reverse chronological order.
Return was most recently released, but shows the Sith guy looking young and smooth.
By the time you get to Betrayal, the Sith guy is like half-robot.
Kinda cool to inject some form of story running through all the trailers imo. Better than just random, unrelated stuffs

>>15980229

Or maybe I'll just go "ohh hey shit, the force is telling me I better not let that gas touch me, time to surround myself with a bubble of breathable air while I cut my way out of this room"

Hell If its just a relatively mundane knockout gas, maybe I'll just ignore it and have the force neutralize it inside my body.

Autoshotguns and both frag and gas grenades.
Enjoy your dead Jedi.

>>15980256
Don't forget arming heat triggered mini mines on your own body.

That Jedi will have a suprise when he decapitates you.

>>15980251
>surround myself with a bubble of breathable air
Now you're just making shit up.

>>15980262
>implying he'll be able to get through the solid wall of shrapnel and pellets in order to do so

> Send mercs to find jedi
> nuke site from orbit

>>15980256

>autoshotguns

I'm fairly sure they upgraded to blaster versions of these. Which share the same problem with regular blasters, only they're fractionally more dangerous to the jedi.

>Grenades

We discussed this already.


Anyways I'm off to work, have fun plotting how to kill space monks. Maybe you can fap over the Tie Defender while you're at it. You realize it costs about as much as a frigate, right?

>>15980241
Where are these videos? Looking on the official site, I've only found Return and Hope

>>15980274
Jedi cannot block solid projectiles, last I checked.

>>15980267
>>15980267

Breath Control. Look it up.

>>15980262
So you get lit up by your own mines because your clothing trapped body heat?

Or, are we talking about putting on a suit of claymores activated by body heat?

Or, are we talking about having the heat sensor trip the mine when a jedi opens your coat, quickly cooling the gauge?

All three are completely fucking retarded. I like the claymore one, though.

>>15980267
Not that guy, but it's basically what the Exile does in "Poison Gas bar"


Also
To kill a Jedi, you lure him down a dark mine and then... SSSSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssssssBANG

>>15980272
>Jedi are now dead.
>several thousand years worth of anarchy because hundreds of thousands of alien planets who all think "hey, I can build a fleet an conquer nearby other planets and make my own empire" AT THE SAME TIME
>sure do love 200 year old salisbury steak.

>>15980287
Heat triggered by light saber.

I doubt someone has a body temperature as high as a light saber, you know.

And one way to disable all mines?

Nope. Each mine is autonomous.

So to ensure that the Jedi be harmed, even just minor.

>>15980297
Jedi has precognition. Shoots you with gun.

>>15980292
Wat? I mean Jedi never were an effective force that prevented wars and rise of evil warlords.

>>15980297
Could just use a thermal detonator on a deadman's switch, honestly. He hacks your arm off, it goes off. He hacks your head off, it goes off. There is nothing he can do that will stop you from dropping the thing as you die and blowing him into atoms.

Besides the mind trick, of course, but you knew that already.

>>15980297
Alright, you get a pass, though your mines are going to need to be very sensitive/not be at the risk of tripping over blaster fire.

>>15980297
Lightsabers and heat emission is a bit of an on-again off-again thing. Lucas isn't clear on the matter (lightsabers do melt things, but he's said that they don't emit anything which is why Qui-Gon was holding a lightsaber right next to the molten metal of the blast door in Ep 1), and the various authors can't agree on it either.

To defeat the Jedi and the Sith, you need a Force Neutral Agent of superior ability.

>>15980297
Jedi precognition doesn't really work on mechanical things.

Besides, the assassin doesn't even NEED to know that he's loaded with mines.

The less the assassin knows, the less the Jedi will know.

In fact, drugging an entire gang, loading them full of bombs, and sending them after Jedis.

That sounds like a plan.

>>15980318
Yeah, they're usually the ones who have to go out and stomp all over them to make the prospective warlord play nice. Keeping the peace and all that.

>>15980277
here is Deceived, which I misquoted as betrayal earlier.
http://youtu.be/wOLANti8UCY
It was released first, but falls as the last video on the chronological in-universe timeline.

Here is Hope, released 2nd and the middle of the trilogy chronologically
http://youtu.be/zMLDCF9B47g

and finally, Return. The most recently released, this is the first in in-universe chronology
http://youtu.be/o2ULxjxFr-g

where we see how the big bad sith in the other two betrayed his original master.

The republic soldier/commando is in both Return and Hope. And is suitably badass in both.

>>15980335
Waves of mooks?

Good idea, actually. Eventually, the Jedi is going to get tired. It'll take a lot longer than it would a normal person (motherfucking Force), but they'll get worn down.

Hopefully their precognition doesn't warn them off taking swipes at the mines, though. The option of razing the area they're standing in from space is still the most effective, though.

We're looking at this completely wrong.

To kill the Jedi, we must defeat his sword.

With a switch trick.
He won't know the difference until it shatters on an arm.

>>15980318
>Wat? I mean Jedi never were an effective force that prevented wars and rise of evil warlords.
This is literally the only thing the Jedi do. Prevent wars through diplomacy and stop evil warlords with laserswords. It is the ONLY thing they do beyond meditate. They were the equivalent of the galactic republic's diplomatic corps and Interpol.

>SW haters coming up with Batman Combat Tactics for killing jedi.
>Jedi groupies asspulling new powers for every tactic JUST LIKE HOW SW WRITERS DO IT ALL DAY ERRY DAY.

You will never find a more neckbeard thread of 'sperg and faggotry.

>>15980380
>some namefag
Go away.

>>15980380
You never saw a political debate on /k/, did you?

>>15980335
Actually it works better on mechanical or non living things. Zero "natural" defence. That's why it's easier to force lift an 100 ton star fighter than a 200 pound human. Heck with jedi precognition don't even need targeting computers, just instinctively know when to press the fire button and the shot will go into an opening that even the best most state of the art computer can't project.

>>15980380
>Batman Combat Tactics

What is this?
Jedi-Repellent Bat-Spray?

>>15980406
It's how we're gonna kill the Jedi. Apply it to the batman.

>>15980340
The Sith and Jedi are subject to the Inverse Ninja Law.

The more of them there are onscreen, the easier they are to kill. Thats why when there is only 1 ninja on the screen, he's an invulnerable badass.

>>15980357
>Waves of mooks?
How did I defeat the Jedi? Simple, I sent wave after wave of my own men knowing full well that eventually the Jedi would reach their kill limit and shut down.

>>15980398
People get fired up about politics, because politics affect them and their future in very real ways. All you motherfuckers are slapfighting with your dicks over a badly written fictional setting.

You want to see war run by disorganized hippies? Go watch Men Who Stare At Goats...

Best Jedi Ever.

>>15980333
I still vote for high power sniper rifles and portable railguns.
Especially if the railgun has a secondary barrel that tracks the target.
Its not magic, no matter how good their precognition is they still have a maximum movespeed.

>>15980365
I'll do you one better, just use an electromagnetic pulse, short out the blade.

Or, hell, make a railgun, find a Space Canadian, and have him pulverize the Jedi from 400 kilometers away.

>>15980494
If Jedi magic was like Hunter S. Thompson on drugs, the Jedi would be a whole lot cooler.

>>15980501
Space Canadian?

>>15980418
Funny how Zapp Brannigan could be the best team leader for jedi killing job.

>>15980511
Roundabout way of saying to find a guy with really good aim.

>Realism in a universe where sound travels through empty vacuum.

>>15980494
>>15980505
Wrong image, but fuck it, it worked...

>>15980518
I didn't know Canadians had a reputation as marksmen

>>15980523
Aha! I'm not alone after all!

>>15980536
>>15980505
>>15980494
Sith Lord Hunter S. Thompson vs. Jedi Lord The Dude?

In a drugs duel!

>give me that bong
>THAT'S NO BONG RIP YOU LIGHTSIDE PUSSY

>>15980546
Not in general, but I think the world record for long-range kill with small arms is held by a Canadian, or was.

>>15979609
>And she has the body of a child.

You know she's been in other movies than the Professional

I can't tell who is more annoying; the fags who want to suck the Jedi's cocks as they beat everyone or the ones who think they're Ras ah Ghul formulating dark and edgy plans to kill them.

>>15980628

You.

>>15980565
Hunter S Thompson wouldnt go for the dark side, he'd be a chaotic force user, true chaotic. Not like 40k chaotic.

>>15980610
I'll stick with Scarlett Johanson, since she's shaped like a woman.

>>15980074
At which point dis Ahsoka get that booby?

>>15980812
>she's

She was.

;_;

>>15980812
Yeah shaped like a woman, but her face loses to Natalie Portman. And face > body.

>>15979681
Expanded Universe shouldn't have to explain stuff that was in the movies. The movies should do that. Not everyone is going to read every story set in the SW universe

>>15980819

Most likely between Episode 3 and Episode 4. But that would depend on Lucas' decision about her and Order 66.

>>15980812
>Stick with the prod.
>A silent takedown is always the best take down.
>Remember, we're police.

>>15980850
I think it's quite obvious she's going to die.

It was a fucking rarity for Jedi Masters to survive, what makes you think a padawan would?

I'm also going to say Rex is the one that kills her. We all know how damn loyal ARC Troopers are to the Republic.

>>15980850
I hope she dosen't get 66'd cause I'd like to ejaculate all over her face if you know what I mean.

>>15980841
Portman's face looks like a squished goose. Johanson has her beat in the face department by a mile.

Great Face + Great body > Ugly Face + Child body

Man, none of you fucks grasp how jedi precognition works.

It's very rarely anything other than feelings.

That's why everyone always has 'a bad feeling about this'

>>15981071
>That's why everyone always has 'a bad feeling about this'
I thought it was just bad, repetitive writing.

>>15981107
I hope you are joking.

>>15981180
Its like poetry?

>>15981065
>natalie portman is ugly

what the fuck is wrong with you

>>15981216
I have decent taste.

>>15979777
>Scarlett johansson is not exceptionally attractive if we disregard tits.
Did you even see her in Iron Man 2?

Dat hip:waist ratio.

>>15981229
She was worth the price of the ticket, my friend.

>>15981071

It's been described as anything from "Bad feeling about something" in the untrained or barely sensitive to "This is exactly what is going to happen in the next minute" at the highest levels, when you reach Jedi Master tier.

>>15982534
AKA: It's like Spidey Sense, it does whatever the writer needs

>>15981229
Aye.

Anybody who says her only good attribute is her chest has not seen the first two minutes of Lost in Translation.

Am I the only one that actually prefers a lot of the EU content to the original films?

Say what you will about Traviss' Republic Commando books, but at least they looked at OP's topic with a critical eye. Mostly the moral inconsistency the Jedi seems to follow and the overall incompetence they showed a lot of the time. A lot of it she chalks up to the Jedi simply forgetting that the clones didn't have slight precognition and the ability to deflect blasters.

There really needed to be a sort of neutral or balanced character that was neither jedi or sith just a person in the middle taking the best of both qualities and showng what could be done with them.


Of course it would then ruin the jedi good sith bad kind of thing that needs to be shown to the auidence

>>15982673

Depends on what the EU is, but Zahn's first trilogy is pure gold. Actually anything by Zahn, and that guy who did shatterpoint and the Ep3 Novelization.

>>15982809
I dunno, I find most of what I've seen to be better. There's been some real stinkers, but most of it doesn't come close to the ham handed tediousness of the original films.

>>15982853

>Ohh hai

Seriously, this entire "Trilogy".... Well lets just say the EU would have been better without it. Some silly floozy jedi shows up, her and luke instantly fall in love, but ohh noe she can't use her powers anymore, flirts with the dark side, and then runs off and is never heard from again. That said, the evil kid from the first book was pretty badass when he showed back up in the NJO series.

people forget that the Jedi are not supposed to be "hippies" nor are they supposed to be "good" as most people understand it. The Jedi are a group that can be best described as Warrior Monks. Sure they learn how to cut a swath through the most badass special forces units around, but they are never really supposed to use that knowledge.

All the Jedi are supposed to do is chill out, counsel inter galactic presidents, and act as third party intemediaries when things get high strung (which is why Kenobi and Jin go to Naboo to negotiate with the Trade Federation) and only bust out the light sabers when the shit hits the turbine.

Every time the Jedi do what we would consider "Good" and go off to fight space Nazis or whatever they end up disrupting the balance of the force, fuck up their good karma, and become Sith. I mean hell even if Mace Windu killed Palpatine he probably would have fallen to the dark side himself at some point.

anyway as far as the OP is concerned, I may have HATED the prequels, but i don't know if i would say the battle scene in the Colosseum was that disorganized, only because i always saw it as intentionally chaotic for the sake of spreading chaos in the enemies ranks making it harder to scramble a defense. or maybe i was just reading too much into a bad scene from a bad movie, idk brah

>>15982936

Callista Ming shows up in the new books. Except her soul was eaten by, well, it's hard to come up with something witty, but it's a big blob of thing that lives in stars and eats force-sensitive souls. Like a C'tan but...I've seen something like it before.

The Blob-Thing uses Callista's soul to taunt Luke until he uses magic rituals to free her. Then she finally permadies.

>>15982964

fuck the NJO EU

>>15982964

what. the. fuck.

Am I the only one who think the Jedi are assholes and that they got what was coming to them with order 66?

They always go on about how precious life is, that one should respect others and that the Sith are squabbling backstabbers.

But it's ok for them to employ childsoldiers, kill/maim people for any reason they like, trash/steal property and half the Jedi seem to turn on their comrades and go dark side while the other half is squabbling and talking behind eachothers backs.

Fuck the Jedi, seriously. At least the Sith are honest about being douchebags.

I don't think hippies are supportive of cloning.

>>15980101
>grenades tossed back

This is why grenades are never used irl. Also, people never use flamethrowers because their enemies might have fire extinguishers.

>>15982964
If Fate of the Jedi is doing anything right, it's killing off all of Luke's old flames.

Oh, and making Mandalorians proper assholes again.

ITT: Karen Traviss fans.

Also, if any fa/tg/uys are looking for a good group fiction site set in the Star Wars universe, I recommend "the Vast Empire". Site's at www.vastempire.com, stories are at comnet.imperialnetwork.com

Imperials are the protagonists (stormtroopers and TIE fighter pilots), stories are set in the Thrawn era.

I wish they did the scale of the Clone Wars more realisticlly. I mean, weren't there only like 3 million clones in the Grand Army? That's pisswater compared to what is actually needed to carry out an actualy galactic war.

I also wish that the clones themselves were explored upon more. More stuff like Republic Commando, things detailing the average life of a clone. His experiences, his relationships with his fellow brothers. But no, we wouldn't have many Jedi in that so yeah :C

[spoiler] I have fapped to both Portman and Johansson. [/spoiler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLpnAuF4yUY

>>15983009

>children soliders

They found out about the clones literally five minutes before the war began. And at that point, they had no other choice but to use said troops in the war, which was the ENTIRE point of the Clone wars in the first place, that Palpatine would eventually be able to kill off all the Jedi because the war would erode public support for the order, and most of them would be off by their lonesome commanding a division or regiment of their killers.

>kill/maim people

Generally you can make a fairly good case of self defense, see the bar encounter with that weird dude in episode 4.

>Steal/trash property

I don't remember this ever happening, but then again, I am trying to repress most of the more retarded parts of the prequels.

>Half of them go dark side

Actually the entire set up of the Jedi order was made to minimize the chances of this. Plus at least when they aren't being genocided by some asshole, they're usually pretty good about trying to clean up the .01% that fall.

>>15983113

No Karen Traviss says that. The actual quote is something like "we have 200,000 units ready now, and over two million more on the way." Units could be anything from indivual clones to companies or regiments.

>>15983113
Well, at least in stuff like the EU, billions or trillions of people die when the galaxy gets invaded or some shit.

Also, with the clones.

If they have sex with each other. Is it gay? Or just some perverse form of masturbation?

Why the fuck does the Jedi order nearly always get almost entirely wiped out by Sith plots?

You'd think they'd have learned the first few times it happened.

>>15983055

>Fate of the Jedi is doing anything right,
>doing anything right,

anything EU post Hand of Thrawn, sucks

>>15983142
I don't know. If I have sex with a member of the same sex, is that sex with a member of the same sex? Or is it just masturbation?

>>15979969
They also use Cortosis weave to explain why light sabers don't cut through every fucking thing in Soul Calibur whateverthefuck it was that had Darth, Yoda and Starkiller

>>15983120
Was thinking about padawans.
If you read the EU books you should know that all taht happens frequently.

>>15983139
There are some retarded number in SW though, Jacen/Sidious entire groundforces to invade one planet with billions of inhabitants is 100 000 troops and his fleet is less than a hundred ships.

>>15983161
But it's sex with yourself.

They're called clones for a reason.

It's like if you sucked your own clone's cock. It is your cock down to the tiniest detail, but on a different body.

>>15983186
>EU
>Every new generation of the skywalker bloodline has some kind of dark side convert.

>>15983199
Forgot to say, you'd think the Skywalkers would have gotten smart to this and sterilized themselves for the sake of the galaxy

>But it's sex with yourself.

No, its sex with your twin brother. Which is, you know, sex with a member of the same sex.

>They're called clones for a reason.

Yes, the reason being that they're genetically identical to each other.

Different clonetroopers have different identifications (and hence, names), and different life experiences (and hence, personalities).

>>15983240
>no fun allowed

>>15983257
Not sure how I'm being nfa... if you want to have gay sex with your 10 year old brother, I'm not going to stop you.

you know what pisses me off more than anything in the prequels?

the force user fights

first off, why the fuck do lightsaber duels look more like performance art than a godamn battle?

second, why the fuck dont they ever use the force in interesting ways? they do it all the time in the clone wars series, but not once in the movie, its obvious that yoda's saber should have been nothing more than a status symbol, and he should have been a pure force fighter, able to counter every god damn thing dooku and palpatine even tried, using the force he could block a saber strike, or even absorb it like that hadouken chick in the old republic trailer, he should have been assualting dooku in that hanger like an airbender from avatar

yoda does NOT NEED A FUCKING SWORD, he should not be RESTRAINED by the physical, infact, he should be making the physical his bitch

dooku should have been STRUGGLING to stay up against yoda, and it should have ended with yoda forcing dooku's saber from him (because yoda does not need to kill to win, unlike the less attuned jedi) before dooku flees, possibly making one last attack on obiwan and anakin to make sure yoda focuses on them instead.

as for the fight with palpatine, he should have done the same damn thing, but HE should have been the one to struggle, because palpatine mastered both the physical and non physical uses of the force.

>>15983120
" that Palpatine would eventually be able to kill off all the Jedi because the war would erode public support for the order"

thats a big reason i hate the prequels

its obvious that the ot was ww2 in space, and its obvious that the pt was the civil war + 'nam in space

except he fucked both of them up, and it became nothing but bullshit in space

>>15983438
Becasue Lightsabers are what Jedi all about and face it before the prequels EVERY SINGLE nerd kind wanted to see Yoda fight with a Lightsaber. Lucas only gave the people what they wanted.

Yes it is unlikely... strange... retarded... but at the end of every sentance there is always the "yeah but what if."

My Dad despite being past 50 is a huge SW fan and when the first time he saw that scene of Yoda fighting Dooku he laughed so hard the movie was echoing. Afterwards he said it was the best scene in the whole movie, of course not because it was cool but because it was so unexpectedly dumb.

At least the Prequels gave us the animated episodes focusing on the clones, counting the new and old animated series.


Pic fucking related.

>>15983771
Yeah, this was great until they retconned it away and replaced it with THE Clone Wars, which, naturally, was the worst shit.

>>15983792
You can't expect anyone to out do Gendy.

>>15983438
Because (as we all know) the only thing the prequels had was VISUAL EFFECTS.

The fight between named Jedi are all important parts of the movies and in the language of prequels this equals MORE SPECIAL EFFECTS! If Yoda and Dooku would just be holding their hands out and making funny faces while concentrating in their "inner conflict" with the force (which how it should be) there would be no need for visuals and as stated earlier no visuals = boring. If Dooku would pose no challenge to Yoda at all then the whole would have been both boring and short too. Also Yoda is bound by the dumb Jedi code of "never use the force to attack only knowledge and defence" to limit his options.

As for Palpatine, we cannot have Yoda to struggle just to keep up with Palpatine because that would totally destroy his image of being the topdog Jedi Master. This is why the fight between the two was pertty much balanced with neither being able to get the clear upper hand. I think that is a good part of it even tough the parts when they Lightsaber fight is really dumb. TI agree with you the best part of it is at the very last seconds when they are both unleashing all their power at each other straight head on and basically it is about who is beter focussed, which one will get a moment of doubt about victory and loose focus.

>>15983792
It's actually not bad, if you give it a chance after the first season.

>>15983869
Every seen that episode when they OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE they meet force gods and shit?

Leia's hairbuns are the ultimate weapon in Star Wars. They are the source of the Force, and have the destructive power of a trillion Death Stars. All Carrie Fisher has to do is let her hair down...

>>15983888
I mainly pay attention to the clone eps. I couldn't give two shits about any of the jedi/sith crap, haha.

The Star Wars universe would be ten times better without fucking jedi/sith force wielding mary sue cunts. Just give me galaxy wide wars with trillions dead and faceless armies cutting each other to bits with lasers please.

>>At least the Prequels gave us the animated episodes focusing on the clones

Oh you mean:
MARY SUES
MARY SUES
MARY SUES
MARY SUES
MARY SUES
MARY SUES
every single episode about one (or maybe a small group) character being fucking badass and owning the shit out of the dumb cartoon character enemy?

In Samurai Jack it was cool because we only had Jack here we had a different guy every episode, be it Obi-Wan, Windu, Grievous, Anakin, Yoda, random clonetrooper commando, Ventress etc. whoever you wish.

>>15980017

No, you retards, he declared it non-canon because a normal looking sword stopping a shiny laser sword LOOKS RETARDED.

I mean, magic force-field electrostaffs, fine. Shields, fine.

Sword with ore stuff stopping shiny lazor sword? Retarded.

I agree with him.

The image of the Lightsaber was already degraded considerably in that seen when we see lightsabers handled by FUCKING BLINDFOLDED CHILDREN! You give a fucking deadly weapon that can cut through almost anything to children?

Really I though building your own Lightsaber was an important part of becoming a Jedi, it makes kind of sense to me.

>Just give me galaxy wide wars with trillions dead and faceless armies cutting each other to bits with lasers please.

you mean 40k?

>>15984119
he said
>>without fucking jedi/sith force mary sue cunts.
in 40k literally everyone is a mary-sue cunt, it's the univerese of mary-sues.

>>15983961
>Every character was a mary-sue

You don't know what that word means.

>>15984098

Yeah, it's much better to give it to nineteen year old farmboys who have never even seen one in their life instead of children who probably have at least had some sword training beforehand.

Not counting that those were training sabers, which just give you a nasty burn at worst, and only if you turn it up to like the highest setting.

Back in my days Lightsabers were just simple slight modified ordinary everyday gadgets. Beamcutters which average unerpaid factory workers used every day at their work. Instead of being the end-of-all-fightan-magic weapons that can block blaster fire and Force lightning and cut throught heavy duty armored doors like hot butter.

>>15984119
Eh sort of. Even 40k has too many 'speshul guize that can kill liek 100 guize all on their own!!!!111'.

>>15984037
Electrostaffs are kind of awesome.

>>15983961
Well, it's about the commandos, the elite ones.

>>15984391

That's the in-universe explanation. Just like the in-universe explanation for vibroswords in the KOTOR games is that they have cortosis weave so they can block lightsabers.

Just because it's *explained* doesn't mean it doesn't look retarded. And in a movie with nothing going for it other than a couple hundred dollars worth of CG effects, I'm not looking for justified lameness, I'm looking for explosions and shit.

>>15988319

Couple hundred *million* dollars

fuck

Fuck, I'm laughing so hard at this thread right now.

Now I want to see the jedifags and the marinefags argue with each other about which is better.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15979555/

>>15988875
BOBA FETT COULD TAKE DOWN LUKE!

>>15990530
Too bad they never faced each other, so we'll never know.

>>15990537
NUH UH, SHUT UP. BOBA FETT WOULD WIN!

>>15988319
That's not half as stupid as the "darksaber" (after finishing the design, the vibrosword was refluffed as some kind of dark-bladed, asymmetrical lightsaber because Lucas thought having a non-lightsaber block a lightsaber would ruin Star Wars forever).

Anyway, if you have the technology to make a lightsaber, it should only be about a thousand times easier to make a full-sized physical sword that generates some kind of a field that can stop a lightsaber, than to make a sword handle that projects such a field to a distance of one meter.