Posting mode: Reply
Password(Password used for file deletion)
  • Supported file types are: GIF, JPG, PNG
  • Maximum file size allowed is 3072 KB.
  • Images greater than 250x250 pixels will be thumbnailed.
  • Read the rules and FAQ before posting.
  • ????????? - ??

  • File : 1320759410.png-(1.73 MB, 2048x1088, norsemen_by_yorgmeister-d3jaef2.png)
    1.73 MB TribeToEmpireQUEST Part 4 Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)08:36 No.16882132  
    You are a Chieftan. A stern warrior leading The Corvus Tribe. Corvus Tribe. rules over the northern plains. Having nomadic origins it was hard to settle permanently in a land but you did it. Much happened since you have came here. You accomplished many things. But its just a beginning my lord. We are at begining of the road.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)08:37 No.16882138
    Raven Hold

    Great warriors hall
    Halls of knowledge
    Spirit lodge
    Hall of alchemy
    Great forge
    Basic farms
    Market Place
    Stone roads


    Warriors hold
    Basic farms
    Stone roads


    Mustering hall
    Stone roads
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)08:39 No.16882152

    Leatherworking: Level 4
    Forging: Level 4
    Stoneworking: Level 2
    Carpenting: Level 3
    Farming: Level 4
    Animal husbandry Level 2


    Dyes: Plenty
    Metal sand: (Low quality. Hard to forge.)
    Spices: Plenty

    Animal stock

    Warhorse breeds : 240
    Mavlu breeds: 500
    Goat and Ram flocks: 700


    Stone querry : +2 stone
    Lumbermills:+4 timber
    Farms: +5 food
    Animals: +5 food +5 fur and pelt +2 warhorses.
    İron mine: +1 iron
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)08:39 No.16882156
    rolled 48 = 48

    Hell yeah!
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)08:40 No.16882162

    Stone: 4(stone querry)
    İron (high quality) : 2 ( iron mine.)
    Wood: 5 (lumbermills)
    Food: 12 (farming+herding)
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)08:41 No.16882177
         File1320759716.jpg-(72 KB, 1000x1000, 1320693465020.jpg)
    72 KB
    Previous threads...

    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)08:47 No.16882212
    You return back to great all with Eliza and Elanor. Your new slaves. Still you are not sure what to do with them but for now it can wait. There are other things must taken care of.

    -Emissary of Caliphate will arrive in a week.

    -Also you need coal for your forges.

    -Also Master Apothecary Gilthas wishes to speak with you.

    -And Kingdom of Aville has sent another letter, demanding a compensation.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)08:50 No.16882227
    Well let the quest begin...
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)08:50 No.16882231
    >İron (high quality) : 2 ( iron mine.)
    Can we expand our iron mines?

    >Forging: Level 4
    Order your people to improve the forging tech.

    We still need coal. Tell your traders to set up trade for coal for now, if we find deposits somewhere then we will cut down on buying the coal.

    Eh, the twins.... Pretty sure we suggested everything regarding that in the previous thread but hell..
    Okay, lets talk to them and try to get some measure of personality or something. I still say we should have them Apothecary training or something that can utilize their intelligence.
    Remove the chains and shackles.

    >-Emissary of Caliphate will arrive in a week.
    Tell the diplomat who was sent to Caliphate to make preparations for their visit.

    >-Also Master Apothecary Gilthas wishes to speak with you.
    Go speak to him.

    >-And Kingdom of Aville has sent another letter, demanding a compensation.
    Ignore, we already sent them rely that we are not responsible for anything/
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)08:56 No.16882261

    Your scouts previus reports suggest that there might be more sources for iron and coal deeper to the windy mountains. Still sending them without warriors wouldnt be wise.

    Until we get more coal we cant advance forging.

    You order your advisor to start preperations for the emisarries arrival.

    Now you can either speak with twins first or Gilthas. Who will you talk to first?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)08:58 No.16882268
    We talk to the twins.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)09:00 No.16882285
    Oh, and we need to research some ways to improve our military even further.
    I say we assemble our best military guys and tell them to come up with something. Assemble Lucas, Bjorn, Krinn and several others who we don't know of together to make a rudimentary military council of sorts and tell them to work on it.

    >Your scouts previus reports suggest that there might be more sources for iron and coal deeper to the windy mountains. Still sending them without warriors wouldnt be wise.
    Then send scouts with warriors. Ask them how many warriors they would need and then increase that amount by 50%.

    >Now you can either speak with twins first or Gilthas. Who will you talk to first?
    Twins, since we don't need to go anywhere.

    Oh! And that merchant who gave them us. I know he said he doesn't want money but I still think we should compensate him. Ask the adviser for suitable compensation which will not insult him (I think some minor trade privileges or something?)
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)09:01 No.16882288

    You find twins at their own room. Both are still shaken and scared but when they see you they drop on their knees. They stay silent as they wait you to say something.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)09:04 No.16882312
    Hello there A-A, glad to see you being up and about.>>16882285

    For this I'd like to remind you about the 95-crit I got last night for training basic sword warriors as light cav, or atleast telling them to start doing so.

    And for that, the consensus reached was: Have Cyrilla see if they have a gift for magic....then have them become warrior-witches either way
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)09:05 No.16882319
    (from last night)

    "Do not be worried, I can promise you that your lives here will be far from what you imagen. We are a people who believe in personal prowess and rewarding the same, be as honest and strong as the men and women around you and they will treat you the same.

    If you give me your word of honour that you will not try to escape or do something stupid, those chains will be removed.
    You will find me a man who greatly appriciates respect and honesty, and offer the same freely.
    do not betray that trust.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)09:05 No.16882321
    "You will remain my personal slaves until you prove yourself worthy enough to be granted freedom. I might do as I please with you, I might leave you in relative peace. How you are treated is as much about your behaviour as it is my mood. Please me, do well by me and mine, and you will be rewarded. Displease me, betray my interests, and you will wish you were the lowest of slaves in the meanest of tribes. You will be judged, you will be watched. Pray you are not found wanting."

    "Now, do we understand one another?"

    (Be sure to assign the tougher womenfolk to oversee them. Can't risk a bored young warrior doing something foolish)
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)09:11 No.16882359
    These two seem to counter each other.
    I just want to advise to not give promises right off the bat before we learn anything. Our wording should remain moderately ambiguous for now.

    I just wanted to know how they are.
    "Speak. I want to learn about you." or soemthing like that. It is hard to suggest anything when we know next to nothing about them.
    We could ask them things like:
    "Tell me about your skills and what you know. I need to know what you can be useful for. Tell me what you want to become. Do not be shy and reserved. Would be shame if you had a natural talent that went wasted"
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)09:11 No.16882363
    tell the basic sword warriors (as many as we have good horses) to practise riding (dont wanna waste that 95)

    Then speak with head apothecary that wants to speak to us...THEN speak with Cyrilla about the twins, sounds allright with everyone?
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)09:13 No.16882375
    very good point, talk more to twins before walking off.
    Thanks anon
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)09:14 No.16882384
    Retconned. Okay reach a consensus for twins.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)09:18 No.16882405
    My case:

    Since all of the plans for them indicate that they will one day e important and or powerfull individuals in the tribe, we dont want to threaten them right away.
    Treat them as we have treated everyone so far: Tribal charms, untill they act like they dont care about honour and tradition. then we can act all rude and nasty, but why foster bad blood from day one when being a charming brute has gotten us so far?
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)09:19 No.16882407

    Everybody okay with this?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)09:20 No.16882417
    Yeah. The other dialogue was rather harsh.
    We should be a little more benevolent but again, do not give too grandiose promises and whatever. Remain more realistic.

    Yeah... but I am >>16882359 So I dunno if I count.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)09:22 No.16882434

    I dont think my speech was that plain, basically saying "behave proper, and you will be rewarded in accordance with what you do"...decently vague aint it?
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)09:24 No.16882440
    (and ofcourse you count, you might even want to namefag in this thread in order to easier hold discussions with morons like myself)
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)09:27 No.16882460

    You notice both sisters relax. You talk to them, about themselves and their former lives. After a hour spent talking you learn that Eliza likes art, music, painting etc. while Elanor likes animals and nature. Elanor has considerable knowledge in plants and all that and she could be a good apothecary. Still you dont know what to do with Eliza...

    What now?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)09:27 No.16882463
    Ah, then its better.
    Reward them for their work and deeds, right?

    Still, I'd like to find out what is special about them (except that they are albino)

    I always preferred to stay anon
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)09:31 No.16882480
    Oh great. I knew that they would be great Apothecaries! Well, at least one of them.
    Should we take Elanor with us when visiting Gilthas?

    >Still you dont know what to do with Eliza...
    Hey, art and music are great. We should provide her with means to express herself. Since we have such a great trade hub, I am sure it will be easy to acquire some beginners tools (simple music instruments, cheap paints, etc). So do that.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)09:31 No.16882483

    Lets ask her "I have heard what your sister wishes do to, do you have any plans of your own? If the choice was yours.

    I do have one request from you, that later one once you have calmed down a little more all of us speak with a very talented woman called Cyrilla. I simply wish to test a thought I have.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)09:32 No.16882490
    What now? Meet with Gilthas maybe?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)09:33 No.16882498
    They still belong to us. No need to ask for permissions or anything.

    Asking her what she wishes to do would be also weird since she is our slave but I do not see anything negative about that. Still, providing her with artistic tools should be enough for now.

    >> Taffer 11/08/11(Tue)09:33 No.16882499
    Since we are going to visit the Apocathery Gilthas, might as well bring Elanor with us.
    Hmm, make Eliza a bard? Could work, I might imagine, but I'd like to see other ideas.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)09:35 No.16882507
    Cool quest bro! I wish I was around for the other threads. I totally would have voted that we name the village Ravenholm.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)09:43 No.16882549
    Other idea (that got a lot of support) last night was to train them as witches, if they have talent for magic...awsome.
    If not, alchemy, occulty things and such for show.
    They are albino, that slightly inhuman look can and should be put to good use
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)09:43 No.16882551
    rolled 16 = 16

    We should start making charcoal for our forges as soon as possible.

    Something like this should be feasible:
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)09:46 No.16882559

    You order Elanor to come with you. Eliza gets little nervous over this. Elanor looks at her sister, whispers something in her ear then turns back to you. You nod then leave the great hal with Elanor.


    When you arrive at house of healing you realize its a small place. neverthless apothecaries make good use of it. Gitlhas greets you and leads you to his own office. You introduce Elanor to Gilthas. Gilthas chats with her bit and tests her knowledge. After some friendly talk he gets to the main topic.

    -My lord. As you know since you supplied with us with better equipments we made considerable progress. Though for now our work have been with small injuries, i am confident that in near future my students will be able to work one greater injuries. Still for that we need more resources but more importantly any knowledge which foreign countries have would be more vital. So can you tell your emissaries to bring us books about medicine from other countries. İt would help us a great deal.

    What now?
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)09:46 No.16882563
    the Illusion that we have powerfull magic on our side might be almost as usefull as acually having powerfull magic on our side (oh wait, we do. Hello Cyrilla!)
    and IF magic is something that can be tought/learned and not inherent in people, even better!

    Just saying, they dont look fully human and we should take advantage of it
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)09:47 No.16882571

    Your idea got picked. Since you critted.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)09:51 No.16882592

    I have a better idea Gilthas, you are the knowledgable one and in this I am nothing.
    You shall tell the emmisaries and merchants what you require, and you shall tell them that your words in this are equal to mine. After all my friend, what good would the wrong equipment do you and yours?

    Oh, this girl by my side might soon become your apprentice, nothing is free in this world after all. Would that be an acceptable trade Gilthas?
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)09:54 No.16882616

    -Of course my lord. As you wish. And thank you my lord.

    You nod then look at Elanor. She seems little suprised and a bit worried. You thank Gilthas and leave the house of healing.

    What now?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)09:57 No.16882638
    rolled 44 = 44


    We need coal, charcoal is better than no coal.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)09:58 No.16882642
    Personally I vote for talking to Cyrilla, see if she can detect the gift of magic in the twins (they look magical enough!)

    But I would love to see more people offer their insight, dont just lurk lads, join in!
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:06 No.16882693
    Can she do that? I guess it's worth a shot.
    Also have we heard anything new about the goats we sent to Aville?
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)10:06 No.16882695

    You decide to introduce twins to Cyrillia. You return to great hall and pick up Eliza then head up to Cyrillias room. You enter the room and notice that Cyrillia writing something into a book. Maybe a diary? Not like you care. You introduce the twins. Oddly twins warm up to Cyrillia really fast and soon you notice that both of them nearly forgotten that they were slaves. You ask Cyrillia that if she can test the twins to see if they got gift magic. She nods and you two chat for a bit. Then you leave her with twins and return to great hall...

    What now?
    >> Taffer 11/08/11(Tue)10:06 No.16882697
    I think this is a pretty good idea.

    But I'm kinda waiting on the caliphate's ambassador. I'm hoping they'll be decent guys rather than the arrogant sods so far. 13th Warrior brotherhood and shenanigans. come on
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)10:08 No.16882708
    Yes, last thread.

    the goats basically ruined their crops and they sent some bitch to demand recompensation...we told her that its not our foult they cant keep the local wildlife in check.

    And yes, lets hope the caliphat doesnt throw insults around like they were going out of style
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)10:10 No.16882726
    Available buildings

    Archery range
    Garden of peace
    Stone FUCKİNG walls
    Proving grounds

    Or you can choose to upgrade one of your existing buildings.

    İn each settlement there can be one construction.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:11 No.16882731

    I think we should offer to trade surplus goat-meat(but no other food items) with them when they start to starve due to failed crops.
    >> Taffer 11/08/11(Tue)10:13 No.16882740
    I like your style friend

    We still on bear cav? Then we need stables.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)10:15 No.16882756
    Yes-yes, the training of light cavalry (yes I'm nagging, but it was a gorram 95!)
    I might even be so rude as to suggest that they (cavalry) take up base in Windfall, to give them peace and quiet from the allready functioning military branches

    alot of people want coal/charcoal, so I second that notion.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)10:16 No.16882758
    thats fantastic! I love it, brilliant thinking!
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:19 No.16882780

    I'm thinking stone walls in Ravenhold, stables in Windfall and a garden of peace in Woodhills.

    That way our capital have a better chance to resist an attack, with cavalry within reasonable riding distance from all our settlements, and the garden of peace bordering to the forest guys (I'm assuming we are planning on staying friendly with them for the time being).
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)10:22 No.16882801
    Also from now on after every advancement roll for random event.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)10:23 No.16882810
    that is an excelent list, I only have 1 changed to offer, set up woodhill as a hq of sorts for the Rangers. its close to the forest, and they deserve a HQ of their own,
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:25 No.16882817
    rolled 85 = 85

    What is our personal weapon? Do we have one? Does it have runes written on it by our shaman?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:25 No.16882818
    rolled 81 = 81

    Stone walls in Raven-Hold
    Proving grounds in Windfall
    Garden of Peace in Woodhills (this is a pre-emptive measure to reforestation, plus the garden being near forests can only be good.)

    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)10:25 No.16882820
    rolled 30 = 30

    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:26 No.16882831
    Acquire some rudimentary artistic equipment for Eliza!
    >> Advisor Bastar Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:33 No.16882882
    rolled 78 = 78

    Oh, and we need some caves for our bears, perhaps a new town near the windy mountains to train them, alas with the young/green warriors,so we will have a town who unite the train of our warrior if some cathastrophe occurs. Warrior nest?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:33 No.16882883
    rolled 12 = 12


    Might as well, I was mainly putting the garden there so that Woodhills would not be sitting idle on their asses.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)10:37 No.16882900

    Stone walls will take 2 month
    Garden of Peace will take 2 weeks
    Stables will take 1 week.


    Also you take note to buy something for Eliza next time you go shopping.

    Still you havent organized any expedition party to send up to windy mountains.

    And you advisor reminds you again that you need a mate.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)10:41 No.16882914
    Tell that advisor to get a mate of his own and get off our case.

    You were right, expedition to the haunted peaks is way overdue, how about rotating groups of rangers up there? if its horribad magics we dont want them up there for to long
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:41 No.16882918
    rolled 84 = 84

    Go on, if we have the materials. Alas, send some one to get advice about that mountains, the pyros and the "bad people" who lives in the peaks can be related.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:42 No.16882920
    rolled 62 = 62

    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:43 No.16882924
    >Still you havent organized any expedition party to send up to windy mountains.

    Just tell Lucas (our best ranger) to organize the expedition. Tell him to send a little bit more warriors than he thinks will be necessary and enough Elites in case shit goes really south.

    (Just for the clarification, is this the same expedition to search for coal deposits?)

    Tell your traders to buy coal till we get news from our expedition.

    >And you advisor reminds you again that you need a mate.
    Yes, Advisor, we know. Stop reminding us that.

    ....so, what is the random event?

    Other than that we do not have to deal with anything more, right? Time-skip till ambassador arrives.
    In mean-time train, visit Warrior hall regularly, see how the twins and Cyrillia are doing.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:43 No.16882928
    I doubt we are virgin. We just haven't gotten a mate to make offspring yet.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:45 No.16882936
    rolled 92 = 92

    Take the advisor like a woman, perhaps in that way he will stop of complaining.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:47 No.16882948

    He's just trying to be helpful in his own way (remember the last time he mentioned that, must have been more than 3 months ago)
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:47 No.16882956
    I don't know if it's a good idea, the mountains hide some shit really bad, like spirits/bloddthirster tribes. I think get some advice from the people of the wood can be more profitable than loss our best rangers and some of our few elites.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:51 No.16882978
    Oh, alright.
    But then we need to establish trade for coal while we wait for the advice.

    We have Cyrillia here! Lets ask her for opinion!
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:53 No.16882993
    rolled 41 = 41


    Let's not. I doubt either one of us will find the experience enjoyable.

    How old is Cyrillia? If I remember correctly she is the granddaughter and only family of a wood-guy(what do we call these guys again?) chieftain. This way we get married into the wood-guy leadership structure. Possibly making it easier to eventually absorb them into our clan.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:55 No.16883000
    rolled 33 = 33

    We already discussed this. We're not making a move on her, not when we have bigger and more important options to consider. Shes not going anywhere.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:57 No.16883016
    Personally this
    >when we have bigger and more important options to consider.
    aspect plays absolutely no role for me.

    The problem is that we don't know much about her and our interaction has been limited. So I agree that we shouldn't make a move.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)10:59 No.16883029

    Tell your alchemists to use this event to study the potion further. Perhaps we will be able to develop a battle-enchanting potion which will turn our warriors into True machines of destruction?

    >What now?
    well, my suggestion is still
    >Other than that we do not have to deal with anything more, right? Time-skip till ambassador arrives.
    >In mean-time train, visit Warrior hall regularly, see how the twins and Cyrillia are doing.

    and >>16882978
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)11:00 No.16883031
    Random event.....

    You remember the potion which caused one to hallucinate? The one which your alchemist found. İt seems Bjorn and some of your chosen thought it was a good idea to mix that potion into the meals of berserkers. A harmless prank they called it. İ mean what harm can come from the over-aggresive-violent-war veterans when they are under effects of hallucunogen. You face palmed. You dont know if it was your luck or some divine intervention but when you arrived to warriors hall, berkserkers were still there and there were no casualities but... you found Brave Razsgath readying his man for some sort of grand crusade across the worlds to unite humanity. You spent hours to convince him that they werent genetically engineered supersoldiers and you werent their primarch Russ. You also tried explained them that Bjorn wasnt a mortally crippled ar hero who were put into a metal box. You were unsuccesfull but fortunately your alchemists told you that potions effect would expire shortly. So you ordered Bjorn to keep them busy until they return to normal and barricaded the whole building...

    What now?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:02 No.16883044
    rolled 85 = 85

    >>16883007 It's time to send some exterminatus over that pesky spirits of the mountain peak.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)11:04 No.16883064
    we have no idea whats up there, except a few rangers said "its maddening"...lets figure out what before trying to stab it to death
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:05 No.16883069
    rolled 12 = 12

    Put Bjorn in a metal box.
    Take him out after the awkward crying starts
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:08 No.16883092
    rolled 29 = 29


    Seconding this, ask Cyrillia if she knows anything about the mountains. If not, send an emissary to the wood-guys and see if they know anything.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)11:09 No.16883104
    rolled 83 = 83


    I love a good second before I roll
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)11:13 No.16883130

    -----------------------1 week later----------------------------

    Stable is compeleted. 2 wood and 1 Stone are spent.


    Stone: 3(stone querry)
    İron (high quality) : 2 ( iron mine.)
    Wood: 3 (lumbermills)
    Food: 12 (farming+herding)

    Caliphate emissary arrives and unlike the previous emmisaries he comes with many gifts. Fine silks, purebreed desert horses, some previous gems and etc. You meet them outside the Ravenholm.(Raven-hold.) And escort them to great hall. You introduce your advisor, Krin, Lukas, Bjorn and Gilthas to him and he introduces you his daughter Jasmine. You hold a great feast in their honour and for change enjoy the friendly attitude of a diplomat. You and emissary Makul sit talk about trivial matters.

    What now?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:18 No.16883163
    Oh, wow, seems nice to have someone friendly visit us for a change.

    >purebreed desert horses
    How different are they from our warhorses? Should we start breeding them?

    We prepare some gifts too.

    >What now?
    Hmm, I dunno. Lets keep talking and see if the emissary will move to more important matters..... or do WE (as host) must do it? Ask your diplomat for advice, I guess.

    Perhaps we should talk about trade matters for the start?
    >> Go luck, go! Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:22 No.16883189
         File1320769358.jpg-(84 KB, 1024x768, screen002.jpg)
    84 KB
    rolled 88 = 88

    I will roll now and support some good speech, my english it's bad and my luck good.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)11:22 No.16883194
    rolled 43 = 43


    "You honour your lord and your people greatly with these gifts, but I fear for my own...We are a simple people, warriors and herders without precius metals and shining stones. Ofcourse you will return with pelts, meat and warhorses of our own. But most importantly, I hope that you will return home with our friendship and an alliance.
    I am an honest person so I will speak bluntly, these kingdoms Aville and Illythia has done nothing but insult me and my warriors hunger for battle.
    My understanding of this area is that you hold no great love for them either, so is there anything that prevents our two people to be bonded by battleblood?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:24 No.16883204
    rolled 14 = 14


    Try figuring out what kind of goods we can trade. See if they are willing to trade furs for coal. Invite Gitlhas into the conversation and let him present what he needs.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:26 No.16883223
    Hey, we can offer some great weapons and armor. We do have forgers and smiths of high quality.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)11:27 No.16883229

    -No. Actually the main reason i came here is that i hoped to find some allies and friends among the people of the north who would stand by us in coming conflict. Maybe you dont know but armies of Caliphate and İlythia are mobilized. Aville is mobilizing its own armies too. We will defend our borders but i fear that priestking and his followers may join them. We cant fight on three fronts so i have come here to seek your help.
    >> Go luck, go! Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:30 No.16883251
    rolled 13 = 13

    Trying luck, post later.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:30 No.16883252
    While we already guessed that this would happen we should still try to get more information.

    "Tell me, what prompted this conflict?"
    And then ask about the history between the nations.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:34 No.16883277
    I say we support these guys for the time being in exchange for good deals on coal and other essentials. Also Aville and the northern half of Ilythia when we eventually win this conflict.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:38 No.16883298
    Don't be too hasty.
    We must be sure we are not getting the short end of the stick. What if they plan to put the most strain on us?

    get more info first. Also, we shouldn't do shit for free since at the moment we do not have any Casus Belli to go to war with those nations.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:40 No.16883317
    >Corvus tribe

    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)11:42 No.16883333
    rolled 20 = 20


    A man of my liking! You speak bluntly and plain, I appriciate that, You came here seeking allies. You have found them amongst the Corvus! When the crowgod flies over the lands and the horns of war are sounded we will be there.

    Those unhonourable women and their farms shall burn. The quiet life is nothing for us from the north, it never were and never will be. But do not take us for mercenaries, we fight as allies and the spoils shall be divided as amongst allies.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)11:44 No.16883345

    -No one really knows. But in our book it says that long time ago Quiran and Ilythia were ruled by one empire. An empire which consumed many cultures and many people. Though the leader of the empire was fair and just, alas his life was short as a serious illness claimed him. His heir, a 16 years old prince soon followed him. Afterwards in a short time a civil war erupt. A general, Emperors' second in command was chosen by the concul to be new Emperor while Emperors' own daughter opposed them, telling them throne was her own right. After a bloody war which no one gained anything but lots of citizens were killed Daughter finnaly triumphed over General. She killed all of his followers, including the army who used to fought for Emperor. Lots of war veterans were killed regardless of their involvement with civil war and replaced by Daughters own liutenants. At that time the high governor of the Quiran who was also a native managed to keep Quiran out of the civil war. After the war he used his oppurtunity to declare his independence and formed the Caliphate while Daughter reformed Empire into Ilythia. And from that day Ilythia still tries to retake Quiran.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:46 No.16883358
    If we still have a shitload of goats, send them into the Ilythian fields after they have started hostilities with Quiron. This way they will be hard pressed to kill them off while vaging war, and it will ensure that they cannot maintain a large army due to lack of food.
    Also what do we know of the Avillian and Ilythian armies?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:46 No.16883361
    "And the priestking. Can you tell us more about him and his religion?"
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)11:50 No.16883390

    -They are dedicated and zealous. İ will give you that. But they are also close minded, violent, brutal and corrupt. Priestking and his preachers hold a great influence over the masses with honeyed words and false promises. For those they cant convince, they torture and burn. They use faith as an effective weapon and thanks to that their position remains firm.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:51 No.16883399
    rolled 31 = 31

    Kill them, they are so retard than kill they own military (The cautios question it's how). Nothing good can be of her, she will use our tribe and cut our throats when the menace was over. But bargain a lot more, they need us more than we need them.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)11:51 No.16883405
    then they will plunder quiron, which is alot weaker then Ilythia, and we will rule over a barren wasteland. why not just wait untill they are at war, and charge across Illythia, conquering it with minimum ressistance. No nobility to pay the army, no army willing to fight...
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:55 No.16883429
    "Do you have any idea why they persecute mages?

    And it is my understanding that Priestking and Calipather are mortal enemies, is that right? How did that come to be?"

    Also, before coming to decision ask your Advisers for advice (Krinn, Lucas and Gilthas could chime in)
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)11:55 No.16883437
    My guess:
    Inquisition and assasins.

    Honourless cretin is what they are, they deserve the storm that is forming on the horizon, and we shall be its winds and the bolts of thunder!
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:57 No.16883454

    Hmm, you are jumping to conclusions.... Although I have the same opinions as you, we still must take educated choice instead of acting on our prejudice.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)11:59 No.16883467

    I don't see why this is a bad thing, this way we effectively wipe out the two largest empires on the map along with their population. Which means we don't have to deal with various resistance fighters and all that nonsense.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)12:00 No.16883471

    -They dont kill all mages. Because priestking and all of his saints are mages themselves. But they tell people that its a gift from god. That way they are seen as divine beings. Anyone to tell otherwise is branded as a heretic and tortured until he or she repents in front of the masses. Also the remaining mages are considered to be daemon worshippers and so they are hunted.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)12:01 No.16883484
    The point remains, if the Illythian army is busy messing Quiron upp, they will definetly not be able to stop us massacring basically everyone we feel like killing....like their royalty, the treasurer and smelly uncle Pete.

    then its a simple matter of telling the army "Hey guys, do you want to be payed or do you want to fight us AND the Caliphats army at the same time." either way, we have Illythia
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:01 No.16883491
         File1320771713.jpg-(191 KB, 500x661, Conceptart43.jpg)
    191 KB
    rolled 75 = 75

    Well, I think it's time to send a delegation to our bros of the north. The next war will weaken the south lands, we must neutral like the swiss in that moment. Get good deals, doesn't promise troops or full support to any of they, but perhaps permit mercenary's to both bands. Menwhile, promise land and women to the warriors of the north and hire them like oath bands for our next full conquest of the south. And perhaps bargain a bit with the Pope state or be totally invisible to them, we don't need that powerfull enemy. Sorry my english :S.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:02 No.16883500
    rolled 43 = 43

    Well, I think it's time to send a delegation to our bros of the north. The next war will weaken the south lands, we must neutral like the swiss in that moment. Get good deals, doesn't promise troops or full support to any of they, but perhaps permit mercenary's to both bands. Menwhile, promise land and women to the warriors of the north and hire them like oath bands for our next full conquest of the south. And perhaps bargain a bit with the Pope state or be totally invisible to them, we don't need that powerfull enemy. Sorry my english :S.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:04 No.16883525

    "I see... so they are monopolizing the power...

    Still, we enter a war without knowing anything about the possible enemies.
    Do you have information on Ilythia's and Aville's military, their quality, equipment and etc? Same for Priestking's army"
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)12:04 No.16883527

    Again sending emissaries across mountains and a fucking frozen sea?

    Dude you made that way first time because you moved as whole fuckin tribe...

    İ am just sayin. No offense meant.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)12:06 No.16883537
    Good english, better plan...I like the whole "bring more barbarian-vikings", especially if we do not offer many, just several smaller tribes (that is, if we can get people across the ocean...not to sure on that) so that we are still the big player, and they know it
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)12:08 No.16883548
    we know that roughly in terms of military strenght

    1st: Illythia
    2 : us
    3'rd: Caliphat
    4th: aville
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:09 No.16883553
    rolled 34 = 34

    If our tribe with babies, elder, women and all the cattle can get the trip, we a bunch of Northlanders young warriors can't? If the problem it's why, for conquest, blood and honor (and women). Perhaps not many, but the most young can be very interested in that, and our problem its we are so few vs we don't know how many people. Every warrior it's irreplaceable, so we need more. Just saying.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:11 No.16883566
    Still, we need that information.

    Even if they do manage to live through the trip they way there and back would probably take a year. I doubt the Northerners will be happy to meet us and I doubt even more they will be willing to fight for us.
    And after the war you have some unruly violent barbarians raiders to deal with.
    This is not a good idea
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:12 No.16883579
    But it's the total trained force or the total force with militia and allies?
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)12:12 No.16883581
    We also however know that Cyrillas people are basically in hiding from the Priest kings inquisition...didnt her grandfather mention something about "tell the other 5 tribes"...6 whole tribes or psykic woodspeople would be a VERY welcome part to our war effort, and hey...we can offer them to settle with us in shared lands AND they will be rid of the inquisition.

    Win/win again
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)12:13 No.16883585

    -Priestkings army composed of zealous commoners, regular troops of barons and lavishly equipped armies of their so called saints. Their tactics are simple but effective. Send in the cannon fodder first. After enemy tires out hit with the regulars. Ilythia is different matter. Their own army is just for show. Their regulars are young nobles who never knew war. They own fancy ornemantel armour and decorated arms which is no good for war. They are peacocks rather then soldiers. The problem is their auxillaries arent. And they have vast reserves. Also their auxillary are composed of many different cultures which means they also can adopt into any kind of war.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:15 No.16883604

    "Does Caliphate have magical support on their side?"

    Again, we need to consult with our advisers.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)12:15 No.16883608
    nope, thats the "rough estimate of our neightboors military streight" given to us by our advisor, who is obsessed with getting us a mate.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:17 No.16883615
    Well, I mean recruit warriors,warbands, outcast and the like, not entire tribes (or perhaps smaller ones) in exchange of fidelity to Our chieftain and loot, land and women. It's a fair offer, and perhaps only the crazy enough to get the trip will accept, but more Northalnders are ever welcome.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:18 No.16883627
    Explain that cultures and why serve the empire, how they thinck and any useful info.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:20 No.16883634
    rolled 75 = 75

    The auxiliaries are from various conquered nations right?
    In which they might be persuaded to switch sides or be 'delayed' on their way to the battlefield.

    Send some rangers into Ilythian territory to learn more of their auxiliaries .
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:24 No.16883670
    Also ask him if any of them could be persuaded to sway to our side.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)12:27 No.16883707
    I second this, and say that we should send either Cyrilla to ask for a meeting with her grandfather.
    War is coming after all, and if we loose they are gonna be in a very bad position.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)12:28 No.16883715

    -Firstly because of money. Ilythian women may not be strong but they are rich. They control worlds most important trade routes. With their money they buy the loyalty of money. For those whose loyalties arent that cheap they hold their families as ransom.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:29 No.16883729
    Alright, I have no more questions for now.

    Ask our Advisers for opinion.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:32 No.16883756
    Guys, let them to kill each other, and perhaps when the war goes bad for the Quiran, swarm the north of Ilithya and start a guerrilla of berserk with some pelts and horns to distreat the attention and give some air to the Quiran. If the berserks where caught, we can argue they are crazy , some potion get them mad and so on, but we must be neutral.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:34 No.16883774
    If we are going to support them in the war, we will have to call back our merchants and any other people from Ilithia and Aville
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:35 No.16883783
    rolled 63 = 63


    Also have the rangers try to figure out where the Ilythians keep their hostages. Possible barbarian viking jailbreak?
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)12:36 No.16883787
    Oh no, I dont think we can afford to be neutral.
    For one, Quiron is the only nation that hasnt refered to us as "dull/stupid barbarians", for two they brought alot of gifts which means they are in serius need of our aid. third, Quiron wont be able to stand against priest king, Illythia and Aville.

    Once Quiron is done for, who I wonder might be a suitable new conquest?
    No, we can and should not stay neutral, we should gather what support we can get and once Quiron is attacked/attack. We join the fray.

    I do like your guerilla suggestion tho, we should send in the Rangers soon to mess with...everything
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:37 No.16883792
    I do not think it is as simple as that.

    I doubt they hold them all in the same place.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)12:39 No.16883810

    Well you try to take opinions of your advisor, bjorn, krinn and lukas.

    "Whicever suits you bro. İ dont care. Just pick the one with good chicks." says Bjorn.

    Krinn cant answer you as he drools over the choclate beauty of Jasmine.

    "We cant trust İlythia nor Aville. Still we should try to incite a war between İlythia and priestking." says Lukas.

    ". İ think we should be wary of priestking. We should gather more info and prepare for war. Also just to remind you my lord that you still havent picked a mate..." says your Advisor.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:41 No.16883821

    Well that might be even better. I doubt we can free hostages from the middle of their capital, but if they keep them spread around we might free a couple of them, and in turn earn the loyalty of some of the Ilythian auxiliaries.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:43 No.16883834
    >"Also just to remind you my lord that you still havent picked a mate..." says your Advisor.

    Holy shit, I lol'd.

    Okay, it seems that our people are mostly in favor for war.

    Still, we cannot agree so easily.
    We need to ask the Ambassador what will we gain from this. (I am hinting to find out what Caliphate is willing to offer if I am not clear"
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)12:48 No.16883863

    All in favour of sending the Rangers (their description included "good at ambush") into Illythia, once we have agreed ofcourse, to couse as much guerilla mayhem as possible.
    Say "Aye"
    those who dont agree, say "Ney"
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:50 No.16883877
    As long as it doesn't hurt the dignity of our people (who knows what kind of stance our tribe has on such "underhanded" tactics)

    Still, wait a bit till we finalize official agreement.
    We should aim for full mutually-beneficial alliance.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)12:52 No.16883898

    You turn back to Caliphate emissary.

    -You offers are kind and generous but i about coming war. You are a bit vague. May i ask what is your plan? What do you expect us?

    Makul stays silent for a second.

    -For one thing, we need someone to support us. İts hard to live in deserts and lack of water and food is a problem even in peace. Our 40 percent of food and water comes from trade which will be cut off when the war starts. Second the priestking will not sit idle while we march to meet İlythia. He will try to take advantage of this. And we cant fight againt priestking and Ilythia at same time. So we need you to at least take care of Aville and half of the Ilythia's auxillary. İf you can manage that we can at least fight priestking and drive him back. Desert which we live upon also gives us great advantage and we will use it.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)12:54 No.16883906
    I think its simple, we demand Illythia and Aville.
    They get the Priest kings realm (we have no idea how large that is, so its a bet but it might be a very good one)
    aswell as a permanent alliance between our two people.
    They really need us, so we can offer "You expand a little, and stay being ruled by yourselves" or "you get fucked by the bitches and pope"
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:54 No.16883909
    Fucking advisor, My dice get a 88, we isn't been ass raped? At least transform him in an eunuch for being a fucking pain in the ass.

    Oh, and ney, I don't like that caliphate either, we don't know much about they and we will figth and get in a position perfect to be ganrgaped be Illithya and they allies?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:54 No.16883912

    Aye-ish, I think we should send the rangers, but their first priority should be to gather intel. Also Lukas brings up a good point, if possible we should try to isolate Ilythia from their allies.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)12:58 No.16883934
    Do anyone agree to this? would you like me to roll, or is it considered a horribly bad idea?
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)12:58 No.16883935
    You guys do i need to remind you.

    İlythia worships Pantheon.

    Priestking worships the raptor je... okay i keed. he worships some entity named holy one, the god or the (insert another cliche name)

    And priestking hates anyone who worships another religion.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)12:59 No.16883938
    "If you send your trade-ships, we will be able to provide you with food and water (we have plenty of water, right?)."

    [We will need to expand our farms just in case]

    Fighting the desert or similar terrain will not be good for our warriors who are used to the cold, so sending our people to protect Caliphate lands might not be the wisest of ideas.

    "A nice rudimentary plan.... but do you have any ideas how we could so-ordinate efficiently during the war? It be great if our military minds could plan things together..."

    Also, we didn;t ask them if they have Magic on their side
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:02 No.16883975
    Are you implying we could make him attack Ilythia?

    Hmm, ask the ambassador of the feasibility of this plane. Guiding both of our enemies to fight each other would be great!

    Also ask him if he has coal to trade.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:03 No.16883983
    ah, so he hates his Neighbors, including Ilythia...

    we might not even need to fight or sned troops to battle, just get the priestking and Ilythia to fight eachother, then the caliphate won't have to face them at the same time
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:05 No.16884010
    Well, the petty kingdom delegate of Aville was pretty rude with our beloved chieftain, casus belli. We send delegate to Ilithia and Aville to inform they of our displeased welcome to that lands, first to try not get raped by Ilithia and calm them and to start a formal war with Aville (if advisor dosn't oppose) and second to ease a bit the figth to Quiran. In short, fuck the small, try to pace the big and help the medium one.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:07 No.16884025
    rolled 83 = 83

    I'm fine with this.

    And there is a growing number of Ilythian peasants who worship the raptor jesus correct?
    In which case I suggest we send instigators to Ilythia to rile up the peasants, while at the same time sending word to the priestking that a peasant uprising is happening in Ilythia, making sure to exaggerate it's size. Hopefully the priestking will try to attack a supposedly weakened Ilythia while we and the Quiron can mop up the rest. Also make sure it's not obvious that we sent the word or the instigators.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:10 No.16884047
    I oppose sending delegates. They might kill them if we tell that we are opening hostilities.

    How about this plan: while the Caliphate fights the Aville, we move against Ilithia. With Aville busy, they will not have much auxiliary armies to call for.

    A good idea but I doubt our BARBARIAN people have the finesse to pull something like that. But the Caliphate should definately have some "special operatives" who could do it. Suggest this to the Ambassador.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:12 No.16884066
    Our god is a crow, somehow I think he'll be fine with underhanded tactics.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)13:15 No.16884095
    so, gentlemen. Is this our counter offer?

    Lets reach consensus shall we, and if we do I'll roll (horribly) for it!
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)13:15 No.16884098
    Chainmail (basic): 3
    Leather (master crafted) :5
    Leather (reinforced): 7
    Leather (Basic): 3
    Plate (Basic): 1
    Shields (Wooden): 5
    Shields (Wooden reimforced): 4
    Shields (İron): 1
    Shortbows (Wooden): 3
    Bows (wooden): 2
    Shortswords (İron, basic): 3
    Swords (iron, basic): 2
    Axes (İron, basic): 3
    Spears (wooden): 6

    These are unused weapons in your armoury. When you are training new troops you also need to equip them. each number equals to equipment that is enough for 50 soldier.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)13:17 No.16884115

    Aville isnt their auxillary. They are boot lickers of Ilythia. Ilythias' auxillaries are the east.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:18 No.16884118

    Crow =/= Raven bro

    We are a Warrior Culture, subtlety is probably not our strong suit. that doesn't mean we can't try though...
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:18 No.16884123
    Please don't tell us we have to micromanage our forces
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:22 No.16884147
    A fa/TG/ guy who hates micromanage?

    Alas, Plate? Barbarians with PLATE armor? WTF.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)13:23 No.16884158

    İf you are against it i can change it to some simple system where you dont micromanage them. İts up to you.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:24 No.16884168
    >BARBARIAN people

    so i just learned that the word barbarian was originally invented by the ancient greeks, referring to ancient nomadic tribes of the arabian peninsula (itt: Beduins, Nabataeins, Hadramuti) reflecting how thaeir language sounded to greeks as "bar bar bar." it eventually went on to mean a uncivilized blooodthirsty foreigner...
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:24 No.16884174
    But the weapons weren't a thing Like the Chosen One has a Axe, Chain mail, War-horse etc, our troops aren't armed like they will thing it's good? They are barbarians, not some sort of Legion army with standard weaponry or uniform.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:26 No.16884187
    In my experience too much micro-managing and number-crunching will wear the Quest DM off as it soon becomes incomprehensible mess. I am still convinced that was the reason why Lord Quest was dropped.

    If other players don't have problem with micro then I will leave that to them. I just hope you will not boggle yourself down and find it unable to run the quest anymore.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)13:26 No.16884190

    Chosen do have standard equipment. Berserkers dont. Swordsmen vary, some have different helmets,some have different shields, still their equipment is common. Think about pre medieval armies.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:27 No.16884198

    Excellent, I suggest we infiltrate several teams of ranger into Ilythian territory with the orders to kill any messengers trying to go east. If we intercept their messengers their Auxiliaries won't even know Ilythia is under attack. If we combine this with the instigator idea we can make the Ilythian army fight the priestking to the east while never knowing that we have invaded from the west.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)13:27 No.16884207

    Okay then forgot armory part. Wont make you micromanage.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:31 No.16884240
    Hey, if other players love the idea and if you feel you can pull it off, I do not mind.
    ....But I will probably not take part in it if you keep it. My understanding of military tactics and shit is very low.

    I prefer simpler version though. Easier to deal with it....
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:31 No.16884244
    So we got gear for 2400 soldiers in total? Amazing.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)13:33 No.16884255

    Simpler version it is than. İ value plot and story more than numbers...

    Now tell me your decision.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)13:35 No.16884280
    what will you say to emissary?

    What about organizing expedition?

    What about Krinn who is drooling over a brown beauty?

    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:39 No.16884318

    Well, we are discussing how we could send Priestking against Ilythia. I want to ask the ambassador what he thinks of these plans since their "agents" are probably so much better than ours.

    >What about organizing expedition?
    We decided to set it on hold because ominous voices scare us. We wanted expert opinion from our Forest allies.
    Or we could ask Cyrillia... yes, lets do that. Her opinion is valuable.

    >What about Krinn who is drooling over a brown beauty?
    I do not have any interest in ambassadors daughter.... so.... I dunno?
    Do we have any say in the matter?
    Perhaps emissary will propose something?

    Oh, ask about Coal trade.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:43 No.16884348
    rolled 88 = 88


    Also this
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)13:43 No.16884349
    to the Emmisary
    >>16883906 and >>16883938

    The ranger expidition, 3/4 of our rangers lead by lucas. Primary objective is intelligence, secondary is guerilla war.

    About Krinns drooling "Calm yourself warrior, and remember that only the men with reputation and glory can hope for such beauty
    >> Advisor Sharkbait 11/08/11(Tue)13:43 No.16884358

    Ask him about any coal he has to trade. We will supply them with food for that coal if necessary.

    Also ask him about the possibility of getting Illythia and the Priest king to fight each other.

    We'll figure out the mountains later. We need all our troops on hand.

    Tell Krinn to stop drooling before the Ambassador gets offended.
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)13:44 No.16884365
    rolled 24 = 24

    forgot, rolling
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)13:45 No.16884383

    You tell emissary about pitting Ilythia against priestking. He is interested in the plan and impressed by your genius. You also ask that if they have coal that they can trade to you. He tells you that they have coal but its not high quality and not much.

    Meanwhile Krinn finnaly musters his courage and greets Jasmine.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:47 No.16884396
    rolled 75 = 75


    >what will you say to emissary?

    >What about organizing expedition?
    We need to focus on the upcoming war, but ask Cyrilla about the mountains.

    >What about Krinn who is drooling over a brown beauty?
    As long as he does not do something wildly inappropriate I'm rather ambivalent to this. He's a grown man and he should be able to figure this out on his own.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)13:54 No.16884482
    Did we tell him this >>16883938 ?
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)14:01 No.16884537

    Before feast ends you manage to seal an alliance between your people and Quirans. You tell them that you would support them with food and water when a trade route is established. Emissary tells you that they will try to pit Priestking and Ilythia against each other. Feast ends quietly as people start to carry their drunked fellows out the great hall and return to their homes. Quiran emissary also decides to stay in Raven-hold for a week to help establishing contact with Quiran high-command and also to get to know your people better.

    Krinn takes a promise from Jasmine. Jasmine smiles to him before she leaves. Krinn sighs.

    Bjorn is snoring and passed out from drinking.

    Lukas is nowhere to be seen.

    What now?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)14:05 No.16884565
    >Krinn takes a promise from Jasmine. Jasmine smiles to him before she leaves. Krinn sighs.
    Hopefully Krinn will not make an impasse by doing something stupid (read: sleeping with a diplomats daughter).
    Warn him about that.

    >What now?
    Stables were built in Windfall.
    I suggest we Build Archery range or Proving Grounds there.

    Also order the construction of a Harbor-city south of Windfall.
    >> Advisor Sharkbait 11/08/11(Tue)14:05 No.16884573

    Tell Giltharas (is that how you spell his name? Our apothecary) to talk to the Ambassador tomorrow about medical books and training.

    Check in with Cyrillia and the twins.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)14:08 No.16884595
    rolled 82 = 82

    Ask about the mountain picks to the Pyreans. Improve the economy. Make charcoal,weapons and armors and try to breed the Horses of Quiran, they can be good light-med cavalry. Don't make road,s they will be dangerous if a huge enemy army goes to our countru, instead try to get mules. Check the bears, train rangers and hold a feast to congraciate to you people and the crow/crom god.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)14:19 No.16884701
    rolled 52 = 52

    Seconding this.
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)14:24 No.16884755
    thirding this
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)14:31 No.16884823
    rolled 40 = 40

    fourthing this
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)14:39 No.16884889
    Op, you still here?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)14:44 No.16884935
    rolled 91 = 91

    By the way if we eventually capture the Avillean nobility I suggest we force feed them goats!
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)14:46 No.16884955

    You check on the tamers who are tasked with taming bears. İt seems adult bears are too wild to be tamed but some cubs shows promise though it will take at least 3 years for them to grow enough. İmproving your economoy is bit harder. Your people arent farmers or traders. They are warriors so there are still complications. Roads are already built. You also ask your horse breeders that if should Quiran breed mixed with northren breed. Most of them replies only if we have enough horses since a baby horse can be compeletly useless or some kind of uber horse depending on the traits it takes. You think about training rangers but you realize you simply havent got the time instead your can train archers which can undergo ranger training later. Lastly you talk with Cyrillia about windy mountain. You found her in her room with twins. She stops braiding the hair of Eliza and greets you. After you tell her about mountains, she tells you that it could the souls of the dead who cannot leave the mountains by some reason. She advises you that if you ever decide to send someone there, send only those with iron wills and back them up with mages. Also psyrim would be very effective if you can convince them.

    What now?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)14:46 No.16884960
    Nah, i prefer feed them to the goats. Also, how many goat hordes we can release to the enemy?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)14:51 No.16885007
    rolled 5 = 5


    Seconding this:

    after that, timeskip?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)14:53 No.16885027
    Well, I was contrary to enter in that war, so I will try to suggest some way to don't be crushed by the Ilithians. Also If we will be in war vs the Avillen, I suggest get some info first of they fortress, cities and troops and how they are placed in the country. Also I suggest some tipe of ambassy to don't piss the Illithians, and that we are in war vs the Avillense, not Illitians. And the ambassy to the papacy... We are the mage friends, if the papacy it's powerfull enough to destroy illithia, next will be our tribe...
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)14:53 No.16885031

    Gilthas spends a great deal with Emissary for 4 days while Krinn and Jasmine spend their time together.

    Roll for random event...
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)14:54 No.16885036
    >She advises you that if you ever decide to send someone there, send only those with iron wills and back them up with mages. Also psyrim would be very effective if you can convince them.

    Oh, good that we didn't send anyone.

    >İmproving your economoy is bit harder. Your people arent farmers or traders. They are warriors so there are still complications.
    We could get the expertise from our Caliphate allies, no? Perhaps they could send some specialists who will advise us how to do this properly.
    Personally, I do not want to lose the warrior culture if it ever comes to that.

    Did we buy artistic tools fro Eliza?

    >What now?
    I still think we need a harbor-town, we will soon be getting and sending a lot of trading ships to and from Caliphate.
    And we can build something at Windfall (archery range or proving grounds like I said before)

    Improve our agriculture, with the Caliphate trade, we might need more food.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)14:54 No.16885039

    I was thinking along the lines of this:
    but with goats.
    >> dice+1d100 Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)14:56 No.16885055
    So that pesky picks are haunted be ghost and no people? Maddening ghosts if i recall. Well, try to convince the Pyreans and they allies to find why they are in the pick, peraphs with our Chieftain nameless leading them and some good roll...
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)14:58 No.16885073
    rolled 84 = 84

    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)15:06 No.16885129

    You realize this day is Lukas' birthday. He is going to finish his 53th year. That old wolf. When you enter warriors hall you see that every warrior making preparations for a birthday party. Bjorn sits nead corner, knitting some kind of teddy bear doll for Lukas, Razsgath works on a two handed axe, clearly his present for Lukas, and another Chosen tries to knit a scarf. Lukas himself is nowhere to be seen.

    What now?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)15:07 No.16885147
    >Bjorn sits nead corner, knitting some kind of teddy bear doll for Lukas

    >What now?
    Dunno man, but we need to get him a present. Do we have anything on hand that is suitable?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)15:18 No.16885248
    rolled 93 = 93

    Prepare a barrel of our finest alcohol as a gift to Lukas. Also donate several barrels of good alcohol and food to the party.
    Invite the emissary and his party to join the festivities.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)15:24 No.16885331
    rolled 70 = 70


    Also tell Krinn to stay away from the girl unless he plans to wed her, in which case I will speak on his behalf to the emissary.
    I assume the emissary brought her in case he had to use her to gain our favor, so it's likely that he is willing to accept this.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)15:25 No.16885346
    >I assume the emissary brought her in case he had to use her to gain our favor, so it's likely that he is willing to accept this.

    I had the same thought.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)15:32 No.16885431

    Preparations are finished in short time due to all warriors helping. When Lukas returns to warriors hold he is met by thousand faces who yell at him. "SUPRİSE!" Lukas laughs as everyone congrulates him. After lots of pat to the back and clap to the shoulder everybody gives their gifts to Lukas which he politely thanks. Party goes on some time. Close to finish you get a chance to talk with Lukas alone.

    -So how it feels Lukas. Being a one badass old man. Leaving your 53th year behind.

    -İt feels... i dont know. İ am glad that i lived among men whom are like brothers to me. Still without her.

    He falls silent as he remembers his wife who passed away when he was 31.

    -İt must be hard.

    -23 years without her. Sometimes i dont even know how i keep going. Probably because of you lads. Still i miss her.

    -Stop torturing yourself Lukas. You know her soul is under the wings of crow. From there she will watch you. Make her proud.


    After these words you exchange farewells as you turn back to help some chosen carry bjorn to his house, leaving Lukas alone with his memories.

    What now?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)15:33 No.16885447
    This >>16885036
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)15:38 No.16885515
    rolled 91 = 91


    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)15:45 No.16885602

    A construction of whole town needs 5 stone and 1o wood which you dont have now. But an archery range needs 2 wood and 1 stone which you have.

    Also you bought some artictic tool for Eliza.

    Your farmers try to organize their lands and design some new watering system. Expect results in a week.

    Also you can train 300 more swordsmen or 170 raiders(fast attack cav).
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)15:46 No.16885605
    BTW can someone archieve this?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)15:47 No.16885624
    train the raiders.
    How long will it take to get enough materials for the town? (also, we don't need to start with ENTIRE town, we build a port and an outpost and then it will gradually expand... unless this is what you meant)
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)15:49 No.16885641
    Raiders for sure, and we need some form to know if some army cross our borders.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)15:59 No.16885754

    5 stone and 3 woods then which equals to 2 weeks for gathering materials.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:00 No.16885773
    So.. if we build an archery range and after that the Harbor town, it should take 3 weeks, right?
    Lets do that.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)16:05 No.16885854

    4 weeks actually.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:08 No.16885897
    Unless anyone has other ideas, lets do it.
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)16:10 No.16885918
    nope i'm good, so let's do this
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)16:13 No.16885952

    To the end of the week you recieve reports that garden of peace is finished at woodshill. Also 170 raiders are now ready for duty. These guys are armed with chainmail and leather armour. Each has a round wooden shield, a hand axe and a spear. They are fast and can be devastating if used properly

    New stockpiles

    Stone: 5(stone querry)
    İron (high quality) : 3 ( iron mine.)
    Wood: 7 (lumbermills)

    Food: 22 (farming+herding)
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:16 No.16885982
         File1320786981.png-(386 KB, 1000x1000, Untitled.png)
    386 KB
    Place the new village here?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:17 No.16885994
    yep, that's where I wanted it.
    We will have to connect it to Windfall with a road eventually.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)16:21 No.16886024
    Also this day emissary Makul returns to his people. But before he leaves you see Jasmine coming with Krinn. Krinn steps forward.

    -Sir. İ... i am here...

    Jasmine puts her hand on his shoulder to give him courage.

    -Sir. May i ask your permission to marry your daughter?

    Makul seems suprised at this. He then turns to Jasmine.

    -İts your decision my flower. Do you love this man?

    -Yes i do father.

    Makul falls silent for a moment.

    -You made me both happy and sad my dear Jasmine. İ am happy because my little Jasmine finnaly found someone she loves. İ am sad because my Jasmine is no longer my little girl.

    Makul turns to krin.

    -You have my permission young man but only if you promise to take care of her.

    -İ will. İ promise.

    Upon hearing this Makul says his farewell and leaves.

    What now?
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)16:22 No.16886039
    BTW name the village.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:22 No.16886043

    Do we know roughly where the major cities of the other empires are located? If so could you mark them on the map?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:25 No.16886061
    rolled 17 = 17


    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:28 No.16886100
    This makes me happy.

    Give the Emissary firm hand-shake and thank him for his time.
    (someone is going to suggest we hold a feast, I just know it!)

    >What now?
    Congratulate Krinn and gather our boys in Warrior Hall for impromptu celebration!

    Check up on Cyrillia and the twins.
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)16:28 No.16886101
    bro, we're not naming it murder or boat or any of the combinations between murder and boat
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:30 No.16886111
    How will we coordinate the war with Caliphate?

    When are we to move out? When will Caliphate move their troops?

    I hope we will recieve a message or soemthing
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:32 No.16886130
    rolled 57 = 57

    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)16:32 No.16886134
         File1320787953.png-(405 KB, 1000x1000, 1320786981815.png)
    405 KB
    Tried my best.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)16:33 No.16886142

    Caliphate will send you a messenger.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:33 No.16886144
    SO Boatmurder is out?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:35 No.16886162
    We should christen our first flagship like that
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)16:37 No.16886179

    Well you think about holding a feast to celebrate it but Bjorn beats you to it. He has already gathered everyone and finished al preparations. İts almost like he was expec- HE WAS FUCKİNG EXPECTİNG İT!! But hey everybody saw that coming from a mile away right? Still he saves you from the trouble of organizing all the effort. You leave Krinn and Jasmine alone and decide return to your duties.

    What now? Maybe visit the twins or dunno?
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)16:38 No.16886194
    is there anything else we need to do first? if not then let's check up on the twins
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:42 No.16886236
    >What now? Maybe visit the twins or dunno?
    And visit Cyrillia too... but I think they will be together
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:45 No.16886252
    Awesome, thanks.

    Does Jasmine know how to fight? If not insist that she is to be taught how like all proper crow women!
    After the celebrations obviously.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)16:45 No.16886258

    As you expected twins and Cyrillia are together. Eliza and Elanor seem to have grown fond of Cyrillia. İt seems Cyrillia was helping Elanor with her studies and teaching Eliza to how to draw.

    What now?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:46 No.16886272
    Ask them how they are doing, catch up a little bit and later ask Cyrillia if our suspicious were correct.
    Also talk with Cyrillia, see how she is doing.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)16:50 No.16886309

    You chat with the twins a little. Ask them how they are doing which Eliza replies cheerfully while Elanor replies half awake. Seems like someone have missed a nights sleep. After that you ask Cyrillia that if any of them got the gift of magic. She tells you that they dont. You thank her.

    What now?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:51 No.16886321
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:51 No.16886323
    Chat with Cyrillia for a while too.
    Just to see how she is doing.
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)16:53 No.16886334
    just anything that's not the combination of the words boat and murder
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:53 No.16886335

    Fuck the shit out of them(literally)!
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:54 No.16886340
    rolled 7 = 7


    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:54 No.16886341
    >not sure if troll
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:55 No.16886358
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:55 No.16886361
         File1320789328.jpg-(333 KB, 890x890, 1313404884185.jpg)
    333 KB
    >Calling someone who has a different opinion than you a troll

    I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)16:59 No.16886403
    OP, I see no one is rolling, so how do you choose which responses to take?
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)16:59 No.16886411

    She thanks you for your concern. İt seems she gotten over the whole earlier deal and seem to be much cheerful, still its hard to tell since you cant see her face. You remember that you never saw her face. You know her hair colour is red because well simply her hair falls down all way to her waist. Anyway you put that aside quickly and chat with Cyrillia for a while. She also gives you a necklace. Though you dont get her intent you thank for the sentiments. She nods.

    What now?
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)17:00 No.16886418
    if there's nothing for us to do, then let's timeskip a bit
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)17:00 No.16886425

    İ never use rolls to pick which action to be taken. İ just use them for effectivness and some other shit. Generally i wait until players reach a consensus. Otherwise i try to combine the ideas.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:01 No.16886429
    rolled 62 = 62

    Persuade him to take off the mask, Using Our Migthy and Savage Noble Charm and suave talk.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:01 No.16886433

    Let's have some rough anal sex with them, whether they like it or not.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:02 No.16886441
    rolled 23 = 23


    >What now?
    Do we have any concerns we need to address. I.... reluctantly ask our adviser for advice (yes, we know we need a mate)

    Has the trade with Caliphate started? If so, then we get the coal and with coal we can improve our forging techniques.
    So, order for that and upgrade our grand forge. We will need many great quality weapons for the war.

    Also, expand iron mines.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:03 No.16886454
    rolled 54 = 54

    >Persuade him
    You mean her...

    Also, we have seen her face. Back when she showed us her powers, remember?

    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)17:04 No.16886460

    She refuses. She tells you that without it she feels naked.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:04 No.16886465
    The hard anal sex it's a matter between our Advisor and ours. We will rape the mouth of that bitch.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)17:05 No.16886475

    No we didnt. Mask was on.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:05 No.16886481
    Establish new village.
    Build road from [new village] to Windfall.
    Establish trade route by sea to Quiron.
    Send ranger scouts into Ilythian territory, gather intel and prepare for guerrilla war.
    Wait for Quiron makes a move, and/or we get interesting news from our rangers.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:05 No.16886489
    Pardon, gramma-nazy.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:05 No.16886491
    rolled 8 = 8

    Yes! Man, why no one suggest this before?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:06 No.16886493

    I see.

    Well I was going to participate in this thread but I'll decide against it. This seems to be monopolized by two-three anon's who have the same general ideas on the direction this thread should take, which means any conflicting action won't get chosen since it will be out-voted. In essence that makes this thread nothing more than a massive circle jerk. Shame too, since all of the interesting quest threads seem to be disappearing, and my favorite quest thread won't be running until Friday.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:08 No.16886532
    Anon, don't dispair, and tell me how it's named the that quest that you are named, please.
    >> mick824 11/08/11(Tue)17:09 No.16886538
    yeah i think we should stop for today
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:09 No.16886543
    No, we're not fucking the twins, we already decided not to last thread.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)17:10 No.16886547
    Stone: 4(stone querry)
    İron (high quality) : 3 ( iron mine.)
    Wood: 4 (lumbermills)
    Food: 18 (farming+herding)

    Trade with caliphate will start as soon as our ports are ready.

    Archery range is compeleted.
    Garden of peace is compeleted

    Raven Hold On going construction stone walls
    Great warriors hall
    Halls of knowledge
    Spirit lodge
    Hall of alchemy
    Great forge
    Basic farms
    Market Place
    Stone roads

    Windfall On going construction none
    Warriors hold
    Basic farms
    Stone roads
    Archery range

    Woodhill On going construction none
    Mustering hall
    Stone roads
    Garden of Peace
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:10 No.16886556
    Are you honestly propagating "highest-roll-decides" system? The dumb system that makes the main character to be a suave gentleman one post and a retarded horny ape-man the other because any retard can push his troll suggestions?

    And I have not yet seen any circle-jerking. I have had my suggestions shot down sometimes and I have managed to convince others that their suggestions were not the best at the time.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:11 No.16886561
         File1320790273.jpg-(5 KB, 135x135, 23434456.jpg)
    5 KB
    >Anon, don't dispair, and tell me how it's named the that quest that you are named, please.
    >Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:11 No.16886562
    How long till our ports are ready?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:12 No.16886584
    He asked for the name of the Quest which anon mentioned.
    I suspect it is E.V.O. quest.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)17:14 No.16886602
    Calling it of for the day.

    İ never said anything about ignoring the minorities ideas. As long as they arent trolls i use them too (how the fuck you think we named our capital Raven-holm).

    Still if you dont like the quest deal with it or there is the door.

    For everyone except trolls that it for today folks. Thank you for sharing this quest with me. See you later.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)17:17 No.16886636
    Btw tomorrow same place but i can open this quest much more early. İts up to you.

    2:00 by 4 chan time ot
    8:00 by 4 chan time
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:17 No.16886638
    Alright, see ya.
    Tomorrow at the same time, right?
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:19 No.16886653
         File1320790747.jpg-(25 KB, 372x268, dealwithit.jpg)
    25 KB
    >The dumb system that makes the main character to be a suave gentleman one post and a retarded horny ape-man the other because any retard can push his troll suggestions?

    Well that's the problem with posting on a site like 4chan. If you don't like other people's opinions then maybe this is the wrong place to play a game that's supposedly open to everyone. I'm sorry that someone might get a dice roll better than yours and there is nothing you could do about it, and i'm sorry that someone happens to have a vastly different action then something you would have suggested, but your opinion is no greater than theirs and dice rolls make sure that everyone can get a fair chance at their choice being chosen.

    Not only that, but your logic is flawed. You seem to think that a general-consensus vote keeps consistency between actions which may be true for a single thread. However, what if the OP of a quest runs it when you're asleep and the playerbase decides to do a complete 180 on the previous threads actions? Nothing is stopping them from doing that, and it all comes down to luck which is the same thing that rolling dice does except it makes it fair for everyone.

    The dice rolling system keeps a thread fresh because no matter how you try and phrase it 1 or 2 people running a quest thread at the exclusion of all others will make it boring, and then when it's time for the OP to make another quest thread no one's going to want to play in a quest thread that has had so much history exclusively chosen by a few people. I've seen it happen a dozen times. Some quest that has had 4-5 threads dictated by a extremely small group that have a certain mindset gets posted and no one posts. That's one of the most common ways quest threads die and I'd hate to see it happen to this one.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)17:23 No.16886714

    So you tell me to use rolls to decide right?

    Look. Let me tell you what. Tomorrow i will run this quest by that. Highest rolls decides... if players like it. Cool... İ will admit my mistake. Otherwise i will return to old system.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:25 No.16886736
    Finally caught the thread while still on the board.

    I just want to say that I like you quest and that I appreciate you running it for us.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)17:28 No.16886766

    Thank you and again i amd gratefull that you share this quest with me. İ am a noob.. but i try my best.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:28 No.16886776
    Are you for real?

    Have you seen what happens to quests with which take highest roll for the update and absolutely ignore any else? A an amusing quests where the character can lose its shit at any time but absolutely impossible to make long-term goals.

    >You seem to think that a general-consensus vote keeps consistency between actions which may be true for a single thread. However, what if the OP of a quest runs it when you're asleep and the playerbase decides to do a complete 180 on the previous threads actions?

    True that. It happens sometimes... but I haven't observed anything too drastic. Also, if someone is going to participate in a quest it is likely that they have read the previous threads and will try to keep in character.

    Also, I am not sure what you are complaining about. 2-3 people running the quest? Perhaps we just have small player-base and reach a consensus fast?
    If you want to suggest something, then go ahead.. but do not expect us to sit down quietly when someone tells us to "rape 14 year old girls". If you have good ideas, they will be supported, if not and you feel that you are still in the right, then make an argument for your case and try to gather support.

    I have never seen a quest being "circle-jerked" by couple of people.

    No. Don't do that.
    The man doesn't know what he is talking about. I've seen several quests fall apart because of that system.
    Keep it as it was.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:33 No.16886844
         File1320791583.png-(136 KB, 428x510, 1286094060666.png)
    136 KB
    >Have you seen what happens to quests with which take highest roll for the update and absolutely ignore any else?

    Yes I do. It's called EVOquest and it's the best damn quest thread i've ever seen. I'm not going to waste my time re-stating what I just posted since you brought nothing new to the table and just re-hashed old arguments.


    Good man OP. I know for a FACT that you'll get a much improved response and your playerbase will no doubt increase. You've got a good thread here OP, don't let the kiddies who want a game exclusive to them ruin it.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:35 No.16886885
    The symptoms of a limited playerbase is going to be there no matter if it works by consensus or by die as there will only be a small number of inputs anyway. Also if you don't like the direction of the quest you could always try to write a compelling argument on how to proceed instead of bitching about it.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:39 No.16886927
         File1320791942.png-(12 KB, 500x500, 1286094452412.png)
    12 KB

    Yeah, because it takes .003 seconds to write an argument that might not even sway people's opinions. By the time I had finished writing that the action I was responding too would mos likely be gone.

    Not only that but there are some actions that no amount of text will change their minds on whether to endorse it.

    Also the playerbase is small because of the issues I highlighted previously. If the OP made it more open to people it would garner much more attention than it usually does. The playerbase size isn't the problem, it's the circlejerk that's going on that is.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)17:42 No.16886962

    Both of you make good points. Still i am new to this quest thing. İ know E.V.O quest too since i read it regularly but i know this that my Quest and E.V.O are different. Though i for myself want more players and opinions still i know that i want to run this quest smoothly. So i will think about a middle ground if i can. İf i cant i will try both systems and my players decide which one suits this quest best.

    So gentlemen pls stop arguing and lets be all friends.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:42 No.16886964
    Wait.... are you that faggot that drops into EVERY SINGLE FUCKING QUEST to complain that it is not EVO quest? Whining about the quests you have never participated?

    >Good man OP. I know for a FACT that you'll get a much improved response and your playerbase will no doubt increase. You've got a good thread here OP, don't let the kiddies who want a game exclusive to them ruin it.
    Yeah. So that you can suggest to "Pelvic thrust" little girls to death, right?

    The reason why it works for EVO quest is because the DM of that game doesn't really know to properly run a game. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it as much as the other guy. But holy shit, highest roll determine the action AND the success AND there are almost no limits how much players can roll, meaning you have 15 posts with rolls and the DM takes ONLY the highest one and since they are almost always crits or mini-crits, they are always successful.

    The very rare occasion it was not is during the fight with the King.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:53 No.16887080
         File1320792790.png-(146 KB, 521x818, 1293041237980.png)
    146 KB
    >Wait.... are you that faggot that drops into EVERY SINGLE FUCKING QUEST to complain that it is not EVO quest?
    >Likes a quest thread so he MUST be someone who also likes it.

    And let me guess, you're the faggot who keeps calling people trolls if their opinions don't align with yours?

    Regardless your post is nothing more than condensed butthurt. You raise no point and you're not even addressing the original problem anymore. I'm also pretty sure you're that one faggot who always tells people that their choices are wrong, although you've seem to disappear in the last thread. I guess you realized that everything does not cater to your whim.


    Agreed, although I simply used E.V.Oquest as an example, I don't want you to change your thread in anyway except for the method in which you choose posts. I was also merely trying to explain to this anon on why he is so very very wrong, a lesson he doesn't seem to be taking with grace.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)17:55 No.16887101
    This happens because your suggestions are either retarded, counter-productive or you make shitty arguments for your case.
    On the very rare occasion that it not the occasion, it is because people put A LOT of time and effort into certain course and someone comes and tries to steer the ship other way. Of course there are going to be conflicts.

    >Also the playerbase is small because of the issues I highlighted previously.

    No its not. it is because DM runs the quest during unconventional times (do not change your time-schedule OP, this is the ONLY quest I can participate because we have similar time-zones.)
    Or because people just don't find the quest interesting. That happens too and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

    You want to see massive player-base with Consensus style system. Go see: "Lord Quest, Dark Overlord quest, Totemist Quest, Frost Giantess Quest, Omnipotence Quest, Void Quest, Corp Quest, MegaCorp Quest, Blood Quest, Terminator Quest, Skynet Quest, Doppelganger Quest."
    You will notice each and every of them are or were highly successful quests with a lot players and a fair deal of arguing and reaching consensuses.
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)18:01 No.16887185
    >And let me guess, you're the faggot who keeps calling people trolls if their opinions don't align with yours?

    >Come into Zerg quest.
    >Post something in the line "I use my powers to end this shitty quest and have EVO quest run in place of it"
    >Come into other quests posting nothing but "This shit sucks, why no EVO quest, wah-wah-wah" like a baby

    No John, the faggots is you.

    >. I'm also pretty sure you're that one faggot who always tells people that their choices are wrong
    I have never posted in EVO.

    I am pretty sure the guy is just angry that he cannot rape 14 year old girls. Yeah, no one is going to support that, you sick fuck. Changing the system to highest-roll-decides gives idiots like that freedom to do anything.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)18:01 No.16887188

    The difference between this quest and E.V.O is that this quest doesnt give player 100/100 freedom. You cant sprout wings or mindfuck som- wait psyrims can do that still not the point. There are limits to what you can do. Meaning trying to slap someones shit can get you killed. Though i understand anon 1's concern for some opinion being left out or circle jerking, like i said i usually combine all ideas even when there is consensus. Rolling though may sound good when defining the effectivness but it is prone to go bullshit. İ dont run a fullserious quest as you see there are jokes and references but also i try to keep this quest alive and by alive mean not player size,>>16887101
    no, i want my players to feel the universe and sympathize with characters. Yes i am a noob and probably suck at it still i try and i will continue to try because this is the kind of quest that i want to DM.


    So like my fellow anons i too think highest roll decides system wont suit this quest.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)18:05 No.16887230
    Still gentlemen be cool. We are all on same side though our opinion maybe different. İ respect anon for his opinion but like i said i dont think it will suit this quest. Maybe a better alternative can be found with some brainstorming still lets keep it friendly. This maybe 4chan but THİS İS TG!!
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)18:05 No.16887239
    >but also i try to keep this quest alive and by alive mean not player size

    I was just giving the FRACTION of quests which were run just as you had and that they were successful with many players.
    I gave that list because he seems to think that consensus style is not feasible and I provided him with clear counter-argument which can be checked and verified .

    Okay, I am tired anyway.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)18:07 No.16887259

    You got me wrong Anon. İ was defending you.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)18:08 No.16887265
    >> Anonymous 11/08/11(Tue)18:09 No.16887285
    Just to let you guys know. Quest seems awesome, you guys need to get a 1d4chan summary of events and a chat channel though. Helps keep the quest flowing and alive
    >> Advisor Earv 11/08/11(Tue)18:09 No.16887288
    I've been saying that since thread 2.
    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)18:10 No.16887295

    We have a chat channel. sup tg IRC

    >> Advisor Anon 11/08/11(Tue)18:11 No.16887305

    For 1d4chan i will see what i can do...

    Delete Post [File Only]
    Style [Yotsuba | Yotsuba B | Futaba | Burichan]