Ooh, let's make it super-grimdark right off the bat.
This space-travel is accomplished by sacrificing souls to the dark gods, allowing humans to basically bypass normal time and space, allowing them to reach distant worlds.

First of all, how does earth develop in this time period? How does it reach beyond the stars?

Of course, your average joe wouldn't know about this. Only the higher-ups in the government know about the cost of space travel, and they just mask it as an amazing technological advancement or something.

in 2045 an earthquake happened, more powerful then any in recorded history. cities were leveled. tsunamis hit every coast around the world. northern America flooded re-creating the shallow inland sea of prehistoric times. New volcanic ranges ripped thru all of Asia all the way to Africa. Central Australia sunk hundreds of feet below sea level. In central Asia a mountain range was reduced to rubble and dust. from inside was found the remains of a craft older then man, damaged but intact enough to reverse engineer. This was Humanities greatest day.

Herp derp, no more responses.
Welp, I'mma just gonna go ahead and ruminate over my dark-gods space-travel idea.
So, I suppose that during these 150 years, humanity has basically progressed as humanity could be expected.
Slight problem though.
America (and basically the entire free western world we all know and love) has collapsed quite a while ago. Economic meltdowns, foreign expansion, yadda yadda. In short, the world has been put into something of a dark age, with the financially successful countries getting all introverted and isolationist, with the less-well-off countries consantly warring with each other. And, as war will often do, a small nation managed to get ahead of the pack. Throughout a series of wars lasting a few decades (that was largely ignored by the superpowers), this little nation managed to become bigger and stronger than all others. At first, nothing seemed very strange about this. Then, things started to look odd.

>>17033569
>>17033582
Totally mutually compatible. Collapse = massive fuckhueg earthquakes and natural disasters.
Inside this spaceship... thing... something rather odd was found.

Come on Op, don't let this die on us.
THIS NEEDS TO GO ON!

>>17033569
i posted this.
>>17033651
you sir, have blood made from liquid rocket fuel. here we go.

basic concept? EVENT HORIZON FOR EVERYONE....THE SHIP DOES NOT TRAVEL FTL...IT GOES STRAIGHT TO HELL. but stay with me pigfuckers...stay with me.

hell is a dimension of its own, with its own resources to exploit and take. with its own habitable planets and places. all horrific and mind destroying. so begins a journey so desperate, so soul rending, that only the soulless corporations of 2145 would dare to undertake it.

Humanity...is going to have one big fuckall space battle, with the forces of hell. Go.

>>17033682
>mfw

>>17033682

What about the forces of heaven. They tend to be a little underrepresented in sci-fi that goes 'Demons!'

>>17033682
Doomguy. Doomguy everywhere.

>>17033682
There's resources to exploit? Poor devils, they have no idea what they're up against.

Really. I hope humanity never survives to become a spacefaring civilization. There is not a single species that deserves us to be inflicted upon them.

>>17033752
Tell me about it. The only other way for it to go otherwise is for them to (somehow) be an even bigger dick than us.

the troops transport is ready. all have been psycho conditioned to keep their sanity longer. longer. not indefinitely, these are will go to swap out with the survivors on the down front. Combat drugs have been administered too ALL crew. Consuming fury is the best protection to the mind. the increased blood pressure and insomnia will eventually kill them if they stay too long, but its better them possession. Who would have though the demons were humanity's next oil. from them medicine has advanced. They are fuel, the are resources to build, and we have to kill them wholesale, render their bodies down to sludge and drag it back to reality...fuck. i love working for the corps.

>>17033742
Ooh. How about, in a break from the norm, there's angels who incarnate themselves on earth and lead humanity into holy crusades into hell. Or something like that. And they'd probably disagree with the money-grabbing corporations.

>>17033742

It's Space Opera, you could have Space Paladins performing Exorcisms on ships that return and acting as ships Chaplain.

we are humanity, and we are here to devour you.
pic related. its a navigator. they are kept isolated, exposed to the essence of the alternate dimension, wired to their input chairs. their suffering is our guidance. The more their torment, the closer we are to the resources,

somebody get /X/ in here. we need to make this shit horrific.

Fun idea: Let's see if we can make this somehow grimmer and darker that 40k. That should be fun.

>>17033777

That would be cool. Perhaps go for a less 'Space Marine' sort than most Sci-Fi fellows. Something like 'Faith is a greater protection against the darkness than the strongest body armour'

Chaplains dressed up more or less like any other soldier, a well-used dress sabre and pistol by their side. They have sworn to never do harm to a servant of God...but these are no servants of God and the Shepard must stand against the wolves.

2012 new world was to be ushered in according to Aztec/Mayan calendar. It proves to be true as an alien presence announces themselves from temples in Mexico & Central America.

They announce a new world is in order, and promptly destroyed Mexico City, Washington DC, London, & Beijing. They set themelves up as conquerers but also gods. The technology they had was just mimicked by the Native Americans.

In truth, their technology was advanced but obvious when looking back, "why didn't we think of that? It was so obvious! It was right in front of us." Under the care of these beings they share their technology openly, they taught how to craft it, and etc.

The one component that fuels the machines is blood. As such animals and sometimes people are hooked up to a machine, and are drained slowly of blood. Yet they're kept alive via powerful medicine, enough blood cells are produced.

>>17033806
Batshit-insane, crazy-ass priests whose zeal literally makes corruption into insanity impossible?
I like dat.

Robots exist, but sentience is something that very few of them obtain, and only after years or decades of experience. There are laws that state a robot cannot be shut down after it achieves sentience because then it is classified as "murder".

The day a robot achieves sentience is popularly known as the robot's "Why day".

Thinking about how humanity uses robots to explore the hell dimensions and such.

>>17033776

That wouldn't be bad. Perhaps combine it with the Chaplains idea. They do no support mans greed...there was a wall between man and hell...a wall that should never have been broken but now that it is, they will stand by humanity, weakened though they are in mortal form.

So you'd have Angels and Priests/Chaplains/Paladins performing daring rescues into hell itself to save people and, most importantly, souls.

No heaven. no good. a story of evil vs more evil. Hell is full of eldritch horror and traditional horror. think hellraiser meets callofcuthulu/ cuthulutech/ deltagreen. Its grim. grim as fuck. Cure for possession? Death. you can come back temporarily, but by then the changes are starting. you will fall. you will fail. you will kill and rend, but at least you can do it towards the enemy hopped up on drugs that would kill a lesser man. and will kill you.

All people in the theater of operation are issued "odin" a drug/ mutagen compound that WILL be taken upon "infection." It starts an uncontrollable, irrevirsable mutuation. greatly increases physical capability and damage resistance. Frenzied regeneration of wounds before the naked eye. horrific warping of the body into something monstrously muscled, growing feet in moments, massively sharp claws and teeth, horns sprouting, skin ripping. ribs and spine, elbows, knuckles, knees becoming exposed bone....10 minutes of berserk glory, followed by an explosion.

this is not humanity fuck yeah. this...is humanity...oh fuck.

>>17033823

Insane but maybe it would be best to avoid the 'Frothing at the mouth, shouting 'DEATH TO THE ENEMIES OF GOD!' sort. It's a little overdone. Perhaps go with almost uncanny calm. No one should be able to stare into the void and not blink but they do.

>>17033824
I'm a sucker for robos, maybe have them be exclusively used by a faction of humanity that relies of fighting the supernatural-dimensional hell with science as an alternative to faith. Like they seek to advance science to such a degree that it trumps faith in breadth and scope.

>>17033842
I approve mightily.

>>17033842
I approve mightily.

>>17033832
And yar, awesome cure for "corruption" there.

>>17033882
Shit, weird double post. My bad.

hey OP, where the fuck are you? on board with this? or did it get too real? add some input. We made you a setting. now what?

>>17033901
Holy shit that image.
Guys, I think we found our Hell.

>>17033832
This sounds like shitty ripoff of 40k.

What if Earth WAS Hell? Like the first layer. Contacting the lower levels was achieved in the near future. The forces of Hell are actually not evil, nor they good. It's mirror of humanity which is found out that the 9 layers of hell was separated during the last war between Heaven and Hell.

In-between h&h lays the material plane. The dominant species is actually insect races. During creation a war was fought on which species would inhabit the material plane. Demons wanted ape creatures (humans) for their ability to think outside the box, and individualism. Where heaven wanted the insect race for they represent order and group focus rather than individual.

Hell lost, and was split into 9 layers, curt off from one another. Then focused on filling the material plane with their chosen races.

As result humanity & demons are ape like, while angels & mortal races are insectoid.

typical huamn reaction to level 1 combat drug "bhal's breath" inhalant. results are...encouraging.

>>17033917
Insectoid angels?
Hrm. Weird.
>>17033928
Yeah, we have to stick with the insanity cure thing. I suppose this works with the whole crazy/calm priest thing too.
Basically, the only way to survive is to be messed up in the head enough to survive contact with hell. The crazy priests can do this on their own, the soldiers are indoctrinated to do it, and those who fail... welp, time to get drugged up.

Of course, we aren't any closer to tying this towards space travel. Aside from the whole "hell is space" thing.
>>17033917
Yeah, getting dangerously close to 40k territory, but I think this feels authentic.

>>17033948

Perhaps 'Distances are skewed between hell and realspace'

So you never actually go faster than light, it's just a k in hell is many thousand in realspace?

There are tales of those that overshot and were lost.

Communication comes in two sorts: Slower than light for most of it and 'Couriered through hell' for those that simply must be there within the week (War messages, anything sent by anyone with the money to simply not care about the loss of life)

Those couriers are some of the bravest men in existence, jumping with only a few escorts and the Shepards on their ship to keep them safe.

>>17033901
Yeah OP, git over here.

>>17033978
>Minecraft Nexus
>In SPESSSSS
Me gusta.
But... are we just colonizing uninhabited worlds or what? I suppose we could just be making an intergalactic empire with little resistance aside from the whole hell business.

Hell is space. there we CAN travel faster then "light" different rules apply. We can set up shop, and then head back to reality, however, we always come right back to our reality, where we dove in.

>>17033990

Perhaps we have not yet met aliens? It's not that they didn't exist, it's just 'Most don't deal well with the first encounter with hell'. So all the ones we have found are dead, long ago.

There may be others who succeed in holding it back but if there are, they are further than we have explored.

>>17034001
So, humans eventually come to the realization that aliens have tried to go through hell before, and ultimately failed.
Thus coming to a cthulhu-esque realization taht they're really no match for the powers they've started to dip their toes into.
Sounds legit.

>>17034001
kinda imagining a realm of bruised red, it has everything real space does. but wrong. cuthulu psychic monsters tear at your mind, want to devour your soul. guess what? that is exactly what you have to find, kill, butcher, and drag back to reality to be processed into mankind's products. medicine, fuel, super conductors, and shampoo.

we would totally stumble across lost ships and whatnot on occasion. haunted too. good times...good times,

>>17034045

Either that or 'We were lucky to survive long enough to get prepared and we are one screwup away from joining the list of dead civs'

>>17034054
Either or. Basically, humanity is at the doorstep of something very, very big, and very, very bad. For worse than they originally thought.

No one really agrees on what part of Hell is the worst.
The sulferous, rotten stench of the air, that makes you retch uncontrollably should you be so foolish as to remove your mask, or the arid wasteland of basalt rock and grit beyond which lie crimson hills...
Or the shrieking and gibbering of the native inhabitants, horrific, twisted mockeries of nature that inhabit dim tunnels and dens, issuing out to attack whatever they see. Horrible almagations of boney spikes, rotten flesh and twisted scales, howling with an insane, animalistic rage, eyes glowing faintly in the ever present darkness.

Wait, I stand corrected. That is the one thing that everyone can agree on as the worst. The ever present darkness. Just dim enough to make you wonder if that's just a shadow at the edge of your vision, but never bright enough to actually tell. Oppressive clouds blot out all light, casting the realm into a dismal gloom.

im so happy. OP might be dead, but we wriggled into his skin and make his little thread dance so well.

>>17034106
Ditto. This is nice.
>>17034065
This, but needs more SPESS.
Basically, planets and star clusters drift around in a hazy, reddish blur. Some worlds are as described, perhaps. Some are fiery planes of pain and savagery, some are festering, dank mires of despair, whose inhabitants eternally scream for release. These screams manage to echo across the voids, drilling into the sanity of everyone who hears them.

"hey Dolf..."
"ja Villhelm?"
"its bill...fucking call me bill."
"ja bill?"
"i fucking hate this dimension."

>>17034158
Because this thread is way to grim.

the continuing adventures of Dolf and Bill.

"ya, i was thinking bill"
"what you sweedish fuck?"
"we should switch shifts for the gAGLFGFGGdgfHHHNGGG."
"take your meds dolf..."

>>17034181
>>17034158
Please, OP, rescue us from this magnificent silliness.

Alright, leaving this thread here for the night.
Please, PLEASE let it still be here in the morning.

"k'vlrggnnhhnngg!!!"
"stop speaking in your sweed speak dolf. its not polite if we all cant understand you."
"ALL CAN UNDERSTAND ME FLESH LING. IT IS YOU WHO CAN NOT SEE THE TASTES TO MY MUSINGS."
"fuck man...this is why...exactly why no one hangs out with you anymore. now shut the fuck up, This POS wont build itself. at least not until we get the macro assembler installed."
"INDEED MORSEL. INDEED."

>>17034229
>>17034181
>>17034158
>>17034106
this thread has gone waaaaaaaay too grimdark and these posts are the only thing keeping it good.

>>17034127
More Spess you say?

So... It got worse. I think I liked those clouds more. Better than this. Turns out that it was just where we landed that was cloudy. Sure it was grey, smelly and you couldn't see for crap, and the nasty little boneleapers had burrows everywhere but damn... better than looking up and seeing this.

See, now we're in the red hills... and you look up, and it's clear all the way. And the hills... they aren't red stone. They're red because the light is red.

This whole place is in orbit around a dying star, and that thing is the colour of old blood. And you look up, and bathed in the light of that star is a floating graveyard.

All sorts of ships, hunks of twisted metal now, just floating around up there, with a few chunks of rock too. Bits and pieces fall down from time to time, but the larger sections just hang there.

And you have to wonder... where did the ships come from? None of them are ours, none of them are from earth save the small explorers we send up there... Those ships are all different kinds of styles, builds, technology. Stuff we've never seen, others we've only experimented with, and almost all of it broken or useless.

But you have to wonder... if the boneleapers didn't build it, and I don't think they did, then who brought it here? Why did they come here? For the same reason as us?

And why are their ships still here, completely torn apart... but no bodies, nothing. Nothing explaining where /they/ went. We haven't found any wrecked escape pods, or smaller vessels on the planet, none yet... Just the floating graveyard.

And all I can think... is what happened to them?

>>17034281
This, /tg/, is why we *can* have nice things.

>>17034246
see guy, i made a lot of the super grim dark posts. that sets the mood. the world is shit. the thing is, i also made the posts you like. Just because its grimdark, doesn't mean it has to be grimdark everywhere? The setting is just that, the setting, how we all act is our choice.Look at bill and the greater demon Dolf. The demon had no name, now it has dolf. please call them dolf. they are please with the name.

do you like it? shall it be archived and developed? or shall it fall?

"Hey dolf."
"Ul'Val~es Kaoelil MPORAGGHHHHH"
"Fuckwad. speak. english. last time i want to say that this hour."
"MORSEL."
"Bill. ITS BILL."
"yessss.Bheeeellllillll....names have power fleshchild."
"Dolf...fuck...whatever...hey tommarow is my kids birthday."
"the proginy of bheeelilll lived another Urth cycle?"
"yeah. you gonna come? Cake. punch. presents. all that shit. Kid is gonna be eight."
"Yes...we shall appear. Dolf and We are in concurrency."
"great...fun. seriously dolf...you have, like what? living shadows for arms now, no skin anymore. you are a freak. have you considered Chel from finance?"
"THE CHELGAMORIS WILL NOT BE DISCUSSED."
"oh....already went there huh?"
"IT WAS...UNPLESANT
"how about those six arms they have to be awesome for han"
"WE WILL NOT SPEAK OF ITFLAGFDASFGHHHHH!!!!"

>>17033596
I was thinking: what if the ship contained some kind of big, huge "WARNING, DON'T. FUCKING. TOUCH" sign, which humanity (being the overinquisitive animals that they are) purposely ignored, leading to all kinds of horrors to be dragged back into the 3D space because the human engineers thought it fit to leave out "unnecessary", energy consuming safety measures.


If there are aliens, it would give them a very real, very strong reason to hate us because we basically started fucking up the cosmos the moment we began exploring it.

I think that would fit the overall theme better than HERP DERP LOWER RACES ARE FOOD XD and similar clichés.

Some fringe scientists have managed to create FTL engines that does not involve dipping into hell, but they're hunted by the corporations who intend to monopolize the market. The engines themselves are still unreliable, and tend to overshoot/undershoot, but it's a safer bet than going through hell.
So, these scientists and anyone using the engine, they try to escape the corporations and their mercenaries by jumping in their FTL ships to the edge of the universe.
Little do they know that their engines do not only transverse space, they also transverse time... in the same unreliable way it crosses space.

>>17034371
awesome....we have "hell divers" and "time benders" glee.
pic related.

>>17034393
Just for kicks, I think the engines run on entropy. As in, it eats entropy.
No idea how this would go, though.

meh. entropy drive works for me. how about this. if it works off entropy, and we are talking about the time ships...the further into the future they go, the more fuel there is, as there is more entropy there. the universe is more dead. closer to creation is less entropy. more going on, they are completly oblivious to how this shit works. for them...their ships make a journey. in fact they are slinging all over creation to get to point B from point A. sometimes malfunctions happen and they end up both far and in a far away time from where they should be. the far is apparent to them. they have no idea about the time travel. weeeeeee...

"*yaaawn* g'night dolf...yeah yeah...i know. no sleep. it is for fleshlings."
"Ja Bheel. S'gooud. Da namless un an; I can work all nite. make a bundle"
"glad to see you two finally found common ground....seriously though..what the fuck are you. sweed? kraut? some kinda dwizeldork?"
"WE ARE A LEGION OF TWO. WE WERE BOTH LEGIONS OF ONE, UPON BONDING OUR LEGIONS GREW BY ONE."
"yep. have fun peeling off your skin guys. ill catch you two fagmo's in the morning."
"DOLF IS NOT A FAGMO. DOLF WILL DEVOUR ALL."
"Goodnight fagmo."

>>17034766
"It's no good, Professor! They're gaining on us!"
"Wait for it... wait for it..."
"They've started opening fire!"
"There! We have enough Entropy! Do the jump, McFry!"
"JUMPING!"
*vworp*
"We lost 'em, Prof!"
"Thankfully the entropy drive works this time. As usual, I think we've overshot..."
"Hey Prof, there's a ship up ahead."

-------

*BEEP BEEP*
"GHWAR- um. Bhillile. Morsels sighted by Dolf."
"Yeah, yeah, I'm coming up now. What a way to interrupt my nap."

>>17035044
"Dolf, wha'da we got?"
"the foolhardy. time benders."
"mother of fuck. alright...alright. call em up"
---TRANSMITTING AT MAX--
"Docking port is...fuck it. ID says your a professor. figure it out. ill be out. security will let you in. Dolf, your security"
"ha..haha..AHAHARAAHAHH!! FOOLBEILLL TRUSTS DOLF. NOW BEGINS THE REIGN OF THE UNFLESHED!!!!!"
McFry: "Professor...I need to be held."
---END TRANSMISSION-----------
"Bhieeell...about the bheeilspawns age ceremony...we require a loan. no currency is available for the purchase of a ritual sacrifice."
"mmpf..man..demon...man...whatever the fuck your kraut ass is. I always spot you money. and you know damn well you are never going to pay me back..have a C-note and fuck it."
"this offer of money equates to your time. and your time is moments of your life...how easily you sacrifice portions of your life to Dolf...how much longer untill dolf owns all your life Bheeilll?"
"i hate you dolf."
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the professors drive malfunctioned sending them into hell space, a place where the physics they need to escape dont work. they will have to wait with bill and dolf until corporate sends in a reclamation team for the resources.

setting:hellspace. corporate controlled sector: Ashikaga-Schwarzkopf 11B/ subsector felix
aboard the warship drydock/ storage point felix two.
home to about 300-500 depending on casualties. bill is head of maintenance and defacto station manager. Dolf is dolf. he is possessed and should have been put down a long time ago. in the grimness of hellspace comedy is a rare commodity. Station two hates station one. there are 4 other stations as well, but they skip numbers for some reason.

station 2 populace:
security forces 60
services crew 45
hospital staff 40
maintenance 170
warehouse 20
telenav 5
helldiver operator 5
reactor assembly 10
gunners 15
civilians 50
research 30

This shit's writing itself.

>>17035240
An interview with the Professor by the Corp enforcers.
CE: "So, Professor... you do realize your drive is an illegal one, right?"
P: "Yes, indeed."
CE: "And you came from... where?"
P: "Orion Belt. Orbital Colony G-27."
CE: "O...kay. Our records indicate that currently there's no such colony there."
P: "What? It can't be! G-27 is THE Ashi-Schwarz HQ for the entire sector! You're telling me it doesn't exist?!"
CE: "I dunno man, it's what the records say."

Someone get this shit archived.

I am loving this homebrew.

It isn't the kind of depressing or heroism sci-fi seen in W40k, Stars Wars, or etc.

This shit is just legitimatly terrifying.

>>17035963
This. Shame I don't know how.

many hours later...
security: "ugh. call the boss. I...cant fucking comprehend this guy. Looking out the window into the abyss is better then this mindfuck..er."
moments later....
Bill: "so here is the situation dickfists."
professor: "dickfists?"
Bill: "yeah. its a real conundrum. is it an arm stump with a giant cock fist, or is it a hand with fingers for dicks balled up to make a fist?!"
professor: "oh dear!"
Bill: "its that question...that question alone that staves off the whispers, which has let me stay here six cycles while most people break after one...so..dickfists. you are now professor dickfists."
Professor Dickfists: Well..i can see the merit. what shall I call you?
Dolf: "VILLHIMAR! SCOURGE OF THE HELLDIVERS"
Bill: "FUCK! GOD FUCKING FUCK! DOLF GET OUT! GO MAINTAIN THE FUCKING HULL. GO fucking finish peeling off your skin. go whisper to the goddamn cold storage meat again.**cold storage meat is the next crew in cyrostorage. no brain activity to demonically corrupt.**
Dolf: WE WILL TEND TO THE UNAWARE AS IS SUGGESTED, WE SHALL INDOCTRINATE THEIR UNAWARE MINDS WITH...oh ja! look Willhelm iz meatball day on the mess dock!"
Bill: "anyway. dickfists. you. your crew, and your bitch. you are all here unauthorized. your bullshit drive doesnt work in hellspace. you are here untill we can extract you. So per corp law you are indentured to us. We need to find something you can do."
Prof Dickfists: "well...i suppose im in no position to argue."

Bump for archive.

Anybody mind cybernetic implants?
Perhaps throwing a littler Cyberpunk into this space opera?

How about having a corporation called Kadmon Industries that is a Human+ organization which aims at creating a weapon against heaven and hell and just has really bleeding edge tech.

Only members of the company get the bionic enhancements, with the general theme going towards brain implants.

The standard being a brain computer interface system called KETER. Looks like a tilaka(hindu dot) on the forehead, but is really a wi-fi reciever.

KETER is used for a computerized OS for the brain for easier information storage and recall. Also helps for greater telecommunications.

Members of kadmon industries are often called arhats, and usually act as agents for the good of the human race, and are directed by an AI that reached the singularity.

...it has been several months since the arrival of professor dickfists. Dolph has entered the final stages of demoniforming. McFry had 3 of his fingers eaten in a game of cards with Dolf and the Security forces. 40 people have been killed, posessed or otherwise lost in the stations sub levels. The beat goes on. This is the norm. Replacement crew is en route. The Cancerous metal tumor that is station two has also been gored by hellspaces natives and repaired in a patchwork fashion...which is also the norm. The professors ship was cannibalized wholesale. Further adding to the twisting maze, further blurring the lines between floors, adding further sublevels, dead ends, allys...it goes on.
----------------
Contact has been lost with station 8. However Corporate has deployed station 076. Why the fuck...I have no idea. The fucking killing barges have brought back a fresh haul of demon meat to be pushed thru the processing decks. seven cubed city blocks of automated slaughter and refineries.
-------
Bill: "Look...McFuckup. You...are...MAITENANCE."
McFry: "I am not a grease monkey!"
Bill: "dolf, take mcfag. Hes gonna get the rippers on slaughter avenue J working...McFry, you go ..or dolf'll use you to make a host,"
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/tg/ Helldivers and timebenders is yours now. OP asked for it. I made the grimdark, and the slice of life. this thing....its yours though. Grow it. nurture it, or kill it. I dont care. The saga of Bill and Dolf burns on into eternity. This miserable fucking hellhole of existence will continue but never forget...The GM makes the setting, but you. the players. You determine how it will play out. Grim darkness doesn't have to mean you are grim dark. Its just the world you live in.

>>17037959
Sir, you are a true hero. Does anyone else want to put the adventures of Bill and Dolf up on 1d4chan?

Speaking of which, shouldn't we come up with a name for this setting? It could always be something as mundane as "Hellspace" or something.

>>17037888
Yeah, why don't we have cybernetic implants as one of the many ways of combating the demonic influences? Actually... we could get a faction system going on. They each have their own method for dealing with corruption. One uses cybernetic technology to the point where there's not enough human left to corrupt. One faction uses mind-altering drugs and crazy BERSERK RAEG. One is incredibly religions, deals with the problems through fervour and zeal. And then there's the aforementioned time benders, who just rip open holes in reality to get around time and space. They pretty much bypass Hell altogether, even if they don't quite understand what they're doing.

Angels are good. Make them completely ineffable - we can't even properly focus our eyes on them, let alone communicate, so we can't know their motives. Are they are trying to save us from hell, or to save hell from us? All I know is that they sure as fuck aren't getting in they way of profits.

Oh and angel by-products are actually far better than what we're extracting from the demons, to the extent where we could end hunger, sickness, poverty etc. just by processing the piles of what appears to be pure light (but apparently has mass, judging by how the corpses slowly drift together into beautiful space snowflakes).

However, that's not profitable. Even if a corporation could come up with a business plan that extends past the singularity (and how fucking tempting would that be, to be the only corp left standing), none have been able to even get past r&d without bankrupting in the most humiliatingly altruistic ways.

tl:dr - these angels are a bigger menace than the demons, soldier.

>>17034632
>>17034766
While trying to make sense of eating entropy as a power source, the natural progression that occurred to me was something like this: So, it doesn't work at the beginning of time, there is no entropy; while at the end of time it is pervasive, but they are 'eating it,' using it up. They are slowly and unwittingly destroying time. Maximum entropy destruction would be one frozen moment at the beginning of creation. I imagine the current usage by enterprising scientists is insignificant to the timeline, but it does mean that the timebenders' entropy-engines could never become the replacement for hell-diving, if it became widespread and relied upon throughout human-space, then the threat of True Singularity becomes very real, but nobody knows that...

>>17038528
and then I imagine if it was to be understood, then some people would actually WANT to achieve it.

>>17038532
Perhaps angels would like it, since they have a hard-on for order, and this isn't even their home dimension. It even adds to the enmity with the corps, who don't like the time-benders anyways, at least while entropy engines are outside their control. Wouldn't they be trying to gain control of this new technology? Maybe the Angel support tips them off that it isn't what it seems.

>>17038067
Someone suggested up the thread that the angels should be insectoid... Maybe toss that idea together with the bugs from Starship Troopers? (The kind from the novel, not the movie). I mean that novel itself is about the descent into inhumanity, madness, the cost of a life, etc (the bugs being an interesting analog for the Koreans/Vietnamese). Less 'beings of light', more 'aloof innocents'. Sort of impassive like most bugs tend to be, as if we are the bugs, not them

>>17038528
Reverse Entropy reverses the universal depletion of energy over a small area.

It only works when traveling between ~30% C and ~70% C.

The you burn your fuel to get to that speed and the Universe Rape Drive, as the technicians know it, unburns it. The bigger the Jump the more fuel you get back.

In theory you could end up with more fuel than you started but when ever anyone has tried this they are never seen or heard from again.

Although the Jump takes much less than a second, and much too quick for the brain to register anything, people do see things. Other People on the ship standing next to them is the most common, but by no means the strangest. Sometimes the Other People seem to be studying what the real people are doing.

Also there is Soul Lag. As soon as the Jump is over there is a moment of utter, mind numbing despair and hopelessness that can last for hours. No one knows why this is. Some people say that it is because something of the soul is not supposed to go that fast, or they feel the pain of the universe as it is violated for human convenience.

They are ignored because there is no scientific reasoning behind it. Not that there is any scientific understanding behind the Rape Drive in the first place, they just copied the alien ship they found at the bottom of a hole in the Earth.

Over exposure to the Hell-side.

This is why you need to check the damnation insulation on your suits.

bumping

What's the matter you're looking a little twitchy?

CAN YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCLa6drPdjg

I think it would be hilarious for the party to stubble on some Federation/Culture analog that decided to just be happy, not explore space, and live in some egalitarian bullshit land of virtual reality and peaceful coexistence. Then suddenly a hole to hell rips open in the middle of their stellar system a human ship flies out and it's attack of the SPESS VIKINGS.

>>17039331
And thus does the drugged-up ANGRY SPESS MAHREENS invade a peaceful, semi-retarded time-ripper colony.
And Lulz and horrific, horrific demons were had by all.

>>17038954

Thoughts: If you can get your hands on it (cough cough /rs/) read Glimmer Rats. It was published in 2000 AD a while back and has some cool concepts.
Your ideas reminded me a lot of how Glimmer Rats opened.

professor: all of my rage! ALL OF MY HATE. these are the things that anchor my sanity to this insane place.
-------
Professor Dickfists: oh dear....oh dear oh dear. these voices in the darkness are a bit much, how they pull at the tattered edges of my sanity, i really must do something about this.
Dolf: Dear professssor.........dickfists.
Professor: STOP. STOP CALLING ME DICKFISTS. IT HAS BEEN A YEAR. I HAVE A NAME.
Dolf: Ja ja...iz Dickfists.
PRofessor: NO! NONONO! I AM...i am,,,i...am..professor?
Bill: Dick...fucking...fists. deal with it. fucking cock arms.
Professor: Cockarms?
Bill: Yeah cho-mo. cockarms.
Professor: No more. three months? a week? a year? this place is sick. Your total lack of humanity is appalling. We are leaving.
Bill: Yeah...not without the Corp's approval. Take your Rage and hold onto it. Quit crying and start maintaining the reactor. The soul extractor and burner is running dirty.
Professor: Oh...yes...of course.
----some time later----
Professor: no...i think not bill...I think, its time. to make a jump...your folly really...for useing the drive parts from my ship. my poor..poor..ship. she was so young. only a negative three years old.
----aftermath---
Station two was lost, It ripped away with it a super massive section of hellspace, dumping it into real space just outside of earth. No longer will real space be able to ignore where their resources come from, as an interesting side note, the incident was called "the bleed" and enabled hell diving style FTL in real space around the affected region. The horrors that came with...were the likes that would flay the sanity from most people and were still nothing, nothing at all like what people living in hell space deal with on a routine basis. like those on....STATION TWO.

>this setting

Hellspace, now here on earth for your convenience! So, consensus time /tg/ is this worth saving to 1d4chan for further expansion?

Whoah, this thread's still here! Awesome!
>>17038065
Expanding upon this... factions would be:
-Ashikaga-Scwarzkopf, who doesn't use any 'special things' to stave off madness (and thus their employees have incredible mental training, like Bill with his dickfist musing, or be subsumed/parasitized by demons like Dolf-legion, which the company still employ anyway)
-Kadmon Inc., which utilizes bleeding-edge tech, cybernetics, and AI to make their employees resistant against hellscape corruption.
-XibalbaTech, which uses mind-altering drugs of every sort to prepare the mind against hellscape corruption.
-Egrigori Heavy Industries, who manufacture religious artifacts to protect your ship, and offer religious 'training' (read: indoctrination) to be able to gather enough zeal to be able to deter hellscape corruption.
-Time Jumpers, which is a loose grouping instead of a corporation, uses highly illegal Entropic Drives to go FTL without going into hellscape. Thing is, if the drives got into mainstream use, it would hasten the Singularity.

>>17041907
>>17040791

Archived this shit when it was dying down before. It's balls-ass late here but I'd like to keep chatting about this. Not 1d4chan-ready yet, but I like where it's going.

Shit, I was honestly not expecting this to last as long as it did...
Nah, let's revive this shit, keep expanding on it.

>>17041907
Perfect outline. I think this would be the thing that would make this 1d4chan-worthy, if only we can fill up some holes in the setting. Like, let's get back to that mysterious crashed ship?

Oh, and it seems like there's some weird conflict over what exactly Hell is. These are the options as I understand them:
>Hell is, literally, space. Different laws allow for FTL travel.
>Hell is the nexus: You warp in, travel a bit, and warp out to get back into real space, albeit way farther away.
>Hell is a different dimension completely seperate from space. This is Humanity's final frontier, as it were. Screw the black, empty void, we have a red, horrifying one now.

Thoughts?

Incidentally, the name "Hellspace" isn't taken up on 1d4chan.
So that's something.

I am most surprised to see that this has gone so long without mention of the Great Pain Of Space.

>Here's to the haberman, Up and Out!
>Up—oh!—and Out—oh!—Up and Out! . . .

http://www.webscription.net/chapters/1416521461/1416521461___5.htm

Bumpity bump.

Alright, I guess this thread is just about dead, so I'mma gonna go ahead and archive it. ALso, there's going to be a 1d4chan page after a few days or so. You can bet your ass on that.

Boom, bitches.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/17033508/

>>17043993
Event Horizons, FOR EVERYONE!

>>17043327
What could make such an advanced species crash land on a planet?

>>17046042
violent unprepared entry into hellspace. followed by violent screaming escape from hellspace.re-appeared inside earths atmosphere. crashed. burried in a mountain by eons of tectonic activity.
----
OH SHIT TG...its Bill and Dolf!
---
"well...fuck..that was unexpected."
"Ja...ere we are on da mortal relm."
"I think this is the first time station 2 has completed a counter dive, back to realspace...if you look past the bleed...you can see the black."
"IT CRIES OUT FOR HOW EMPTY IT IS."
"yeah...I dont...being back man."
"what you call the bleed. it is more then a bleed. it is a torn artery. it will continue to spill."
"damn. can we stop it?"
"NO.no...no...hehehe"
"....hope the kid likes this, guess we can call it the professor's birthday gift to him."
" ja, a gift from a mortal, a gift of insanity. more true then most"
"Shut up dolf. I like you better when the other is in the driver's seat. Now we need to fucking do something about Dickfists and his sidekick commander cockarms."