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    39 KB Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)20:33 No.17565311  
    Ok /tg/. I have had this idea for a while, and never have seen it brought up here before so i want to see what you think. I have been trying to base a game around the Toy story theme, just a bit darker. The characters would wake up in a massive garbage dump, something about the place gives toys sentience. Never before have they been aware, but for some reason they can even remember their creation and lives before being thrown out.

    However, no matter their previous lives, they find themselves in a hell hole. Gangs of toys wander the wilderness salvaging parts and batteries to stay alive, often taking from the "living". Tonka trucks and remote control cars rule the road, offering transport for a price, or grinding trespassers into dirt. Maybe a lego kingdom has sprung up and are using their ingenuity to create war engines, or a ken doll had gathered the barbies to create an army.

    Would you play, what are your ideas, and what system would be best?
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)20:42 No.17565418
    I thought the character creation should be simple like taking a template and a very basic progression system. Some of the templates i came up with are
    1) plushy = 1/2 damage from bludgeoning, no falling damage, +5 to hide when dirty, and 1/2 movement when wet, 2X from fire
    2)plastic = 1/2 damage from slashing, consider any fall you take as if u fell from 10 feet higher, easily replaced parts and grafts, 1/2 from fire.
    3) Electronic = +4 strength, requires bateries to function properly (not yet sure if they should shut down all the way yet.)
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:12 No.17565773
    Obviously most of the toys would be armed with simple weapons like old kitchen knives or clumps of metal used as a club. but the weapon list would be infinite, and what ever the characters could find or think of.

    Bullet tubes (re loadable, shoulder fired "rocket" consisting of one bullet and a tube with some sort of firing pin. Prone to jamming due to lack of good ammo.
    Glue guns (can permanently immobilize limbs or even an entire toy)
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:13 No.17565786
    Shit, this actually sounds like it'd be fun to play.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:19 No.17565856
    I'd definitely want to be a lego set. Rebuild yourself for any situation? Yes please. (Though it'd be easy to get knocked apart... like being a mage!)
    Unless you can only be a lego man. In which case... I might be a cthulu (octopus) plushy or something.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:24 No.17565929
    >Would you play

    Shit yes

    >what are your ideas

    >Hordes of cheerfully fatalistic Army Men patrolling their "territory", lead by a half burnt General named "Kurtz"

    >Action figures fighting constantly for their own versions of justice

    >Sexually abused toys (by budding boys who jizzed on Barbie or whatever) being unhinged and reenacting their trauma with other toys.

    >Various "Limited Edition Figurines" being absolutely appalled at their prior life in a box, and now wanting to experiance it all at once. Hedonist toys.

    >and what system would be best?
    Savage worlds I guess
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:28 No.17565969

    Lego blocks + hot glue or plastic cement = near infinite fort/vehicle/war machine possibilities.

    This game would make playing an engineer type class totally doable, and maybe even a little OP.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:29 No.17565988
    ya, i had a hard time trying to figure out how someone could be a Lego man. Had a couple of ideas. One of my favorite was having the lego men be able to control lego pieces like they were an extension of their own parts. So if they found enough parts to make a T-rex they could just attach their head somewhere and they would essentially be a T-rex lego man now :D. However, there would have to be limits based on level. We cant have the characters finding a box of Legos on their first day and creating a body the size of a human lol
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:32 No.17566034

    Insert a battery or some kind of electronic devise (computer chip or what ever) and create golems of legos?
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:33 No.17566040
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    >Thousands of dumped ninja turtle toys fighting
    >There can be only one
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:34 No.17566055
    You'd have to find one of those battery/engine packs that come with technics legos. Or you'll have to settle for basic stuff like string and elastics.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:36 No.17566075
    I think 1d4chan has something OP might be interested in.

    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:37 No.17566079
    40k armies. That is all.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:37 No.17566085
    No functioning joints. Melted down for more lego blocks.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:37 No.17566086
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    Legolems wander around the evil Lego Fortress, guarding its entrances.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:37 No.17566087
    >massive garbage dump

    I'm guessing there are human workers who deliver garbage in trucks and move it around with loaders. There might also be a crusher and a recycling center.

    How difficult would it be for a determined group of toys to hijack a motor vehicle?
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:38 No.17566095
    Lego confirmed for Evil forces
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:39 No.17566100

    very cool, thanks
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:39 No.17566103
    Depending on the toys it would take hundreds if not thousands to perform the coordinated dance needed to drive a car.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:42 No.17566151
    A cult that worships the humans they used to live with as gods.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:42 No.17566155
    With the right lego pieces it would only take one. Or none at all, if those neat electronic units are available.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:43 No.17566163
    The human part was an issue for me. i don't have a clue on how the humans would not know what was going on. But animals would be an easy one. I always imagined toys training rats and seaguls to be mounts or attack animals :D.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:43 No.17566168
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    I would play the shit out of this.

    Picture related
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:45 No.17566192
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    >inb4 attacking its weak points for massive damage

    Megazords mindlessly wander the dump, attacking or aiding toys as it sees fit.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:46 No.17566200
    In the dump itself, I'd guess the area the toys occupy has already been filled with trash and abandoned to rot, while other sections are filled. The humans don't actually go anywhere near it, and the toys either haven't spread that far or are deliberately confining themselves.

    If they remember all the way back to their creation and from that point forward, they might well be aware of how huge the human world is and how much power they have.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:48 No.17566237
    Very good idea, thought about the area being unused, but never thought of the toys inherently wanting to avoid humans.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:49 No.17566242
    Megatoys like this and the power ranger combo walker are the titans of the waste? Stomping about trying to find their purpose? Some are mad with power and attack indiscriminately while others see themselves as protectors and defend the other toys for being melted down into blocks by the insane lego empires. Some have even being captured and turned to new purposes, like the Combined G.I.Joe army and their mighty AT-AT.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:53 No.17566303
    Transformer toys continue the wars that they were created for, madly believing themselves to actually be robots from another world. Autobots and Decepticons ruthlessly butcher eachother with improvised weapory while other toys struggle to keep out of their way.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:56 No.17566340
    alright, so general consensus is that legos will represent an evil empire, melting down other toys to make more materials for the dastadly plans...but what about other building blocks like duploblocks and megablocks and whatnot? for that matter, how would offbrands and knockoffs interact with the "true" toys or whatever they're based on?
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:57 No.17566351
    Many things are possible. Some of the toys could have found a working radio or even a television or computer; they could get the news. If they can read, which I assume they can even just in a limited fashion, they might acquire knowledge from discarded books. A faction of toys in this dump might even be very well-informed. Awareness of events on the human scale would make them wary of making themselves known.

    Of course a good number of them would be bitter. Being trashed is not pleasant. Still, a few may realize that none of this is actually the fault of humans, since it's the dump itself that gave them sentience. A group of toys may be recovering toys from other parts of the dump or even the "outside" in order to give them life.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:57 No.17566361
    Small Soldiers, anyone?
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:59 No.17566376
    Do adult toys count? If so I want to be a real doll.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)21:59 No.17566381
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    I'd play it. I'd love to stop bootleg cultists trying to reanimate a Buzz Lightyear construct.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:05 No.17566475
    Assuming the Legos would be evil, if the knock off legos can be found useful in the lego empire, they can exist, otherwise, i would assume they would melt them down.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:06 No.17566485
    Lego knockoffs would be used as slaves by the Lego minifig empire, and the knockoff blocks melted down and used to make the superior Legos.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:10 No.17566559
    Why not just make it post-apocalyptic with no humans around, like their some sort of ancient precursor race?

    Like a skeleton of a hobo in a dumpster being praised as god of the dumpster.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:13 No.17566595
    There was a home-made rule-book for robots left behind once humanity disappeared, which I think would be highly relevant. (It had some robots fighting for spare parts and batteries, while others tried to keep endlessly performing the tasks they were built for.) What was it called?
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:14 No.17566614
    Engine Heart?
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:15 No.17566620
    Engine Heart.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:15 No.17566628

    Yeah, that's the one. I think it could be used for a "living toys" game with only minor modifications.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:16 No.17566645
    Ever seen 9? Sounds like that.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:17 No.17566660
    me again, just thought of an additional rule for battery based toys. assuming that they'd generally be more powerful/capable than other toys, a way of balancing it would be to make batteries dieing/running out of power and swapping out batteries and whatnot highly dangerous by making power sources and charged batteries be a rare resource that must be constantly searched for. not only that, make the character have to roll a check to see if there are any ill effects of being powered down such as a glitch in the programming, loss of memory, or being completely reset. the glitches could be temporary ticks or whatnot like spanish Buzz in TS3. the memory loss could be cause for checks to see if a memory or ability comes back or is lost aswell as making it possible for the player to add an additional die for skill checks and the such to represent skills and abilities they forgot they had. the reset would be a crit fail or whatever to the check and cause the character to go back to factory settings mentally, possibly physically, though they may still be physically capable of things without knowing it
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:18 No.17566667
    Thought about that, personally, i wanted to keep the humans still around because they would allow the toys the opportunity to gather more of their scraps, or leave an encounter with humans open for possibility. (at the very least trying to avoid them, or their monstrous machines.

    However, that does not take away the possibility of a hobo god (living or otherwise :D)
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:24 No.17566776
    Cool, il have to look it up

    so, ur saying they probably should not go inactive, but instead take negatives or penalties if they run out of batteries? One of those mishap charts would be great for that.

    Also, what do you think would happen if they used a power source that was too powerful? I was thinking maybe it would function like positive energy from 3.5. good to a point with temporary bonuses. but then they crash or if they take to much they burn out. Kinda like a drug
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:25 No.17566792
    I like 9.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:27 No.17566811
    That sounds good, you could also do the same for faulty batteries.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:28 No.17566819
    Also wanted to confront the life giving trash dump.

    How would you guys run it? would the place give permanent life? or if you leave it, would the toy slowly lose its life force?

    Thought it would be fun to have a sense of urgency if the toys had to leave the dump
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:32 No.17566856
    Trash golems would be cool too i think. The same thing that gives life to the toys could give life to different size and shape mounds of trash. Would not be as common, but i think would be a fun random encounter or something like that.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:38 No.17566932
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    See Tim Burton's "9" for inspiration
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:42 No.17566976
    Life is permanent, but there is a calling to the dump. The farther a toy is from it, the stronger the calling. It can be resisted with willpower, but resistance also makes it stronger. Finding a permanent solution to this problem is one of the issues facing the toy community.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:45 No.17567008
    I did see 9. I thought the movie was great. But i absolutely hated the ending :(
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:51 No.17567079
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    yeah, something like that. if they run out of power though they would have different effects. like a toy that relied on batteries to talk but could still be moved round without them may just end up being unable to talk, while others may become immoble like the Tinman, and the far side of the spectrum would be full system shut down leading to the previously mentioned effects.
    as for the battery drug stuff, yeah. toys that weren't supposed to use batteries can use them for bonuses like you said but it can lead to addiction and negatives in the long run. toys that were supposed to use them would have bonuses and negatives built in based on how dependant they are on batteries. batteries being used as a drug would also lead to it being a commodity that people would try to control. maybe the empire would try to find and destroy/limit batteries seeing as they aren't really dependant on them at all, or they could go the other way and want to "evolve" themselves with batteries.
    Also: I have an equivalent for the Terrasque...Are you a bad enough dude to take on the Furby?
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)22:54 No.17567123
    oh god, those things have always scared the crap out of me
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)23:00 No.17567212
    me again...again. if a toy that runs on batteries runs out of power, you could have them become immobile or shut down or whatever the ill effects may be and their buddies have to haul them around or whatever while they try to get new batteries. the entire time, however, they could continually be rolling checks to flip the power switch trying to use the last reserves of energy from the batteries but everytime they do it they get more negative multipliers that stack up and can lead to permanant negative effects even if they get new batteries
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)23:09 No.17567332
    I love the battery dynamic. Can you imagine taking the life out of one of your party members to temporarily revive an NPC who witnessed certain events crucial to their quest, only to rip the life out of them once again?
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)23:35 No.17567700
    that's intense
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)23:45 No.17567824
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    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)23:46 No.17567840
    Fuck yes, smiling so hard right now. and fuck the newer generations...
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)23:51 No.17567913
    Necromancy. A forbidden art, practiced only by the wretched and the insane. If they are discovered, they are lit afire by the Death Glass. If they are not, if they spend their life skulking in anonymity, they breathe their last alone and unloved in the wastes. And yet the art is still passed down generation to generation. It is a blessing and a curse, the ability to unscrew the battery casing.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)23:55 No.17567972
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    Oh shit motherfucker I'm totally rolling Kopaka
    >that day of the month when your Lego magazine and Bionicle comic arrived
    >> Rubbish Soldier 01/16/12(Mon)23:56 No.17567978
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    Green and Tan Army men would probably dominate all other toys; Can you even imagine how huge their army would even be from all those years of being thrown away?
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)23:58 No.17568036
    I think most army men are lost, not thrown away. Therefore, they would never reach the junkyard.
    >> Anonymous 01/16/12(Mon)23:58 No.17568037
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    >mfw Bionicle comic

    Definitely going for Lewa, though. Dat attitude. Dat wind. Dat axe.
    >> Rubbish Soldier 01/17/12(Tue)00:00 No.17568054
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    Actually, y'know what, this would probably happen;
    to anyone who's played the game, high five to you
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)00:01 No.17568073

    I could imagine them being an army of 60 years old veterans equivalent. A horde of toys that have nothing to do but tell other toys the good old days of the 'War'.

    And they wouldn't have any ammunition for their weapon.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)00:02 No.17568099
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    High five!
    >> Rubbish Soldier 01/17/12(Tue)00:08 No.17568189
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    This too, working mini AC-130s, Mi-24s (hinds), IFVs, tiny working ICMB nukes aaaand living Rambo action figures dual wielding M-60s and M72 LAWs? Fuck ya
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)00:12 No.17568249
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    K'nex would be mortal enemies to the great lego empire.
    >high-speed transit via rollercoster tracks
    >Heavy lifting with the POWER TOWER CRANE!

    May neither ever discover the power of Erector.
    >> Rubbish Soldier 01/17/12(Tue)00:16 No.17568313
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    Shiiiit, throw in the old K'nex mechwarrior mechs and the Lego empire can kiss their asses good by and K'nex be set for life.... and yes, these did exist, i use to have a couple and i don't know if they still make em
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)00:17 No.17568333
    Hah, the erector sets could be a stand in for some sort of 'lost city'. A gargantuan mass of aluminum constructions, buried deep within the trash mounds, but able to still exist due to the sheer strength (relative to most toys in this setting) of the construction.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)00:23 No.17568410
    Nah, the toy soldier war would go something like Army Men: Sarge's Heroes
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)00:23 No.17568414
    Lincoln Logs and Tinker toys never stood a chance.
    >> Rubbish Soldier 01/17/12(Tue)00:27 No.17568458
    That... would be pretty awesome actually
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)00:41 No.17568664
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    Let's get writan' up some fluff here!

    We have three major factions (Lego, K'nex, and Army Men) and a lost civilization (Erector).

    Any more? We also need expansion on batteries. Perhaps there are rumors of fabled "rechargeables".
    And pic is the ultimate evil of the land.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)00:43 No.17568694
    oy, the first time I've gotten trips. I'll be damned
    >> Rubbish Soldier 01/17/12(Tue)00:47 No.17568737
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    mfw.... well we can probably throw in GI Joe and Barbies, a la Small Soldiers style.... high five again if anybody has seen that movie
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:02 No.17568923
    Haven't unfortunately. Care to explain?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:06 No.17568980
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    The Glorious Barbie Republic of Freedom is a fascist propaganda state, its brainwashed citizens revering the Original Barbie as their dear leader who saved them from the wastes.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:13 No.17569082
    Please, do go on.
    >> Rubbish Soldier 01/17/12(Tue)01:13 No.17569085
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    Can't remember too much, but as far as i remember, these two guys who design and make action figures put these super sophisticated military computer chips in all of their action figures of two different toy groups, a bunch of aliens and a few of these gi joe esque action figures that make em come to life and make them self aware, really hard to explain but was an awesome movie
    << mfw
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:18 No.17569134

    Toy Soldiers. Awesome movie.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:22 No.17569199
    Maybe I did see that years ago, but I can't be sure.

    Seems like we're going on a bit of the grimdark side here.
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    Small Soldiers you mean.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:34 No.17569351

    I mixed up Toy Story and Small Soldiers. Thank you.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:37 No.17569398
    For added I have no mouth and I must scream, those melted down by the lego empire are still alive. Step by step:

    1: Your soul is torn into pieces as your different coloured plastics are seperated.

    2: Your soul's torn bits are mixed with the torn soul bits of other toys. The different parts of your soul are now mixed with similar soul parts from other people in a screaming, massive, forever incomplete entity. The plastic in the melting bins.

    3: that entity is now itself torn apart into small pieces.

    Each soul part feels a vague psychic connection with other soul parts from the original individual being. They long to rejoin. However, the newly formed over-entity, on the other hand, is separate from the screaming parts, and loyal to lego. It does not want that.
    >> Suddenly! A writefag appears! 01/17/12(Tue)01:41 No.17569445
    "Don't let up your fire on those legos!"

    Cried the Army Man Sargent. The fifth artillery battery of green army men were ordered to hold the scrap metal ridge. At. All. Costs. The metal was worth double it's own weight to both sides. The more battery powered tanks needed to be made, and the more metal was required. Repeatedly the soldiers fired everything at the massive assault of the lego legion. But no matter how many fireworks were being shot at the legos; they just kept coming. Again and again nothing could stop their infinite force. A roman candle hit their main formation directly, but still they moved forward. Worse yet this all seemed to be part of their overall strategy. While a few privates affixed steak knife tip bayonets; they noticed something, the legos were flanking them. It wouldn't be long till they were surrounded...

    "What we do Sarge?" Asked a worried private. He had a chip of plastic missing from his molded face. The Sargent replied hesitantly, "The only thing we can do. Execute plan B!" The private nodded. He quickly marched over to a hidden cache of weapon. 18 sticks of M80s, there was a match in the corner. The private knew what he had to do. If the Army Men wouldn't have this metal, no one would.

    >Idea: Name for Lego Faction, Lego Legion?
    >> Suddenly! A writefag appears! 01/17/12(Tue)01:45 No.17569509
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    >of weapon.

    Weapons. Fuck. I was going to bed before I saw this thread...So don't blame me!

    I thought I had was Army Men have access to fireworks. Their greatest weapons are battery operated tanks that are akin to real tanks. Legos have almost unlimited forces though, and great tactics.

    That's all I was trying to do anyways.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:50 No.17569585
    You know what would be an awesome quest if the humans were still around?

    A CSI team begins rooting through the dumpster for a supposedly trashed murder weapon. A sawed-off shotgun, used by a gang member to kill the gun's owner when his private drug ring got in the way of the gang's.

    While the toys mutually end conflict to lie low so that they are not smote down by the gods, one toy learns of this "Shawdoff" One of the investigators had a lisp.

    With this information out, the toys redirect the conflict to be the first to find the super weapon.

    However, when they find it, it has seemed to have become affected by the animating power. It's insane, after being involuntarily forced to kill its original owner, who loved it so dearly, always cleaning and tuning it, and gave it plenty of action.

    And it has found a few rounds of buckshot.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:51 No.17569601
    I had an idea like this once, except it wasn't quite so dark, I did think of having some sort of Action Figure that went around fighting other action figures, beating them then cannibalizing their parts for himself, so he'd be this mismatched behemoth constantly looking for a worthy challenge.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:53 No.17569634
    rolled 8 = 8

    I can picture a town being run by an old, wise Teddy Ruxpin. He sends out scouting missions once a month into one of the three contested areas for D-Cell batteries for himself and others.

    "I prefer the kind with the copper color on one end, but really, anything will do."

    On the other hand, he has a battery stash that could feed 500 toys for a year, and he pimps out Barbies and Bratz dolls to the other toys.

    What would be a good currency? Batteries would be too precious, like diamonds.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:58 No.17569718
    rolled 13 = 13


    I think the Brick Empire would work.

    I don't think many toys would know how to read, so many would not know their actual names...

    Unless the toys came to awareness knowing exactly what they were.

    I guess if they have memories of their life from before, they would know what they were called.

    "I was once known as Snake-Eyes. I won many battles against the Cobra Commander and his army of troll dolls."
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:58 No.17569722
    how would it kill or move? or did it make a body for itself from surrounding garbage? (would be a fun one though)
    What a brave army man. :D
    >> Rubbish Soldier 01/17/12(Tue)01:59 No.17569734
    Please continue, this is awesome
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:59 No.17569743
    I was thinking on that. Thanks for the idea of scrap body.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)01:59 No.17569748
    In this setting paladins can be toys who, upon reflecting on their time with their kid, love their kid and are devoted to living in a way befitting the memories or who want to leave the yard and return to their kid
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:00 No.17569771
    Googly/button eyes. Because all toys want them, but not all have them. Those that have them in excess are considered rich.

    Also what about a toy oracle? It got be some old retro Soundwave transformer with a couple batteries hidden and kept safe from the environment.

    If a toy feels the need, it sets out on a pilgrimage to find the Soundwave. Once found, his attendant priest unwrap one of the sacred batteries and bring him to life to dispense his wisdom. All toys respect the Soundwave, and even the Lego Empires avoid it.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:02 No.17569798
    Probably just spare parts, which could also lead to some soylent-green-esque cannibalizing of toys for parts
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:04 No.17569815
    they might even copy the attitudes they embodied.
    Have a Spider-man toy? It believes with great power comes great responsibility and considers itself a defender of the toys.
    His existence is a lonely one, but his actions are pure and those of a true hero, because that's what he always believed himself to be.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:04 No.17569818
    Wire ties that come with toy packaging, small accessories. useful bits of metal.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:05 No.17569838
    rolled 19 = 19


    But not all parts are interchangeable, and the Ninja Turtles need to be able to trade with the GI Joes.

    Maybe just...accessories. Each toy instinctively wants its own accessories back...but a GI Joe wouldn't mind using an orange transparent chainsaw.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:11 No.17569901
    "We need to go deeper! Deeper!"
    With powerful machines at their disposal, the [K'nex] can reach places where others cannot. While operating equipment by hand will suffice, functional motors bring out their full potential.

    Their construction lacks in true fortification, unlike those of the Brick Empire, but what they have instead makes up for it.
    >> Suddenly! A writefag appears! 01/17/12(Tue)02:12 No.17569918
    Sadly I'm too tired, my writing quality is degrading rapidly. Next time OP post in the middle of the day!
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:13 No.17569927
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    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:14 No.17569939
    The Mangled: When a toy is damaged it is often has only two choices, accept its handicap, or attempt to repair itself. Depending on the toy repair may be as easy as popping back in an errant arm (or in the case of the vile legomen, rebuilding ones self) or sewing ones self together. Sometimes foreign parts can be used to repair a toy however they must be careful, for a piece of a toy's soul rests in each foreign part and too many repairs will cause damage to the toy's psyche as the memory of disfigurement and death from multiple toys bleed into his mind. The Mangled are toys that have succumbed to madness and seek out toys to graft onto themselves, A mangled can appear as simple as a patchwork doll to a hulking monstrosity that may have been at one point a reasonable toy.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:14 No.17569945
    Guys. Guys. GUYS GUYS.


    They gather like a great library, playing infinite games against each other in teams of 60 cards each, and debating like the great philosophers of the world.

    They fear the great decay, the eventual process that a being made of organic paper must face. But each faces its death with dignity, for they know that a thousand more of its kind exist.

    They long for the touch of a kind and careful owner, who will give them nice sleeves to wear and a lovely protective box to rest in, between lovely debate-duels more powerful and meaningful then any game in the mortal world. They consider a permanent state of that to be their kind's heaven.

    However, those that sin are forever claimed by the cheeto-stained, oily fingers of the devil, bound together in rubber bands and crumpled inside sweaty pockets, only to be torn out by the devil's cheesedusty fingers to be slammed forth on the unwiped table of hell.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:15 No.17569951
    Oh, I like the accessory instincts. And I was thinking that if the toys are in a dump, theyre probably not in the best of shape and will try to use whatever they can to keep themselves together as best they can, so screws, nuts, bolts, parts from other toys, etc. would all be valuable but extremely common at the same time. This could all play into the Barbie cult of perfection that another poster came up with, the closer to being whole you are the better and such
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:15 No.17569955

    Sorry :P
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:17 No.17569980
    same thing i was thinking. Survive by any means possible
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:17 No.17569985
    I'd probably say they'd have a barter system.

    If it wasn't for the fluff people put out already, I'd say lego bricks or K'Nex pieces. Size and complexity denote value. A basic 2x2 brick is the most basic unit of currency.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:18 No.17569993
    I love this. Katamari golems, basically
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:19 No.17570005
    Who says they can't be currency for other groups. Only thing would be that they'd be a dangerous thing to carry. Worth much to the right toys, nothing more than a death wish to others.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:22 No.17570032
    Why is the last part in Black Preacher Hallejuah voice?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:22 No.17570039
    May of them join into tribes of their own kind, the Magics, the Spiral-Backs, the Pokemon, even the various Athletics, but they, in a pinch, unite against the largest tribe: The Big 52. They are the most common and the most organized. while they aren't made of stuff as stern as the other cards, their sheer numbers make up for it. For each card that's taken down, three more are waiting just behind their numeric packmate.

    Alternatively the concept of trading cards as currency might not be a bad idea.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:26 No.17570075
    They require caretakers. Who'd be the best for the position? Collectable figures?

    Again, Creepy/Hentai Woody wouldn't count. He'd probably be the only "Sane" of the Mangled. Sane as in he knows fully what demented things he is doing, and you're his "favorite deputy."
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:26 No.17570084
    Guys...Guys...shut up for a second... bottle caps for currency.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:28 No.17570092
    i just have a hard time seeing them moving around lol. But defiantly see them being currency. different valued ones too seeing as some of them have shiny backgrounds

    Tonka truck - "2 shinies for the spare wheel and the pack of batteries"
    teddy bear - "only 2! u know what i had to go through to get them out of that rat nest! i will not take less then 3, and a couple of those ones with the humans on em!"
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:31 No.17570124
    You make them sound like rare art like that. The richer toys will have a whole gallery of them, full of stills of humans in "everyday" life along with the beautiful unknown greenery. While poor toys may only have a single card to admire wistfully, and the worse off have none at all and look longingly for a glimpse of their near-forgotten past.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:32 No.17570127
    and do you know how much beer humans drink? the market would be flooded every Friday with useless currency lol
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:34 No.17570137
    What if they are sentient (to only a small degree), but don't move? And are used as currency. Each card contains massive amounts of knowledge. What information that card shares freely, or can share at its level of sentience. denotes its value.

    Gestalt thought, as you build the cards together in piles, they begin to think smarter. Too much money in one place can have a necronomicon like effect.

    People try to interrogate their own money into directing them to the library which contains all of the money/information of the world, as these cards locked memories are released when added together.

    Their have been stories of those who have made it to the great vault, and they say those whose minds could still offer rational thought said it was like looking into the face of god.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:34 No.17570138
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    So, when is OP gonna reveal that this is all just to show you guys that you CAN play Nechronica without it being creepy fetish fuel?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:34 No.17570142
    Hm, didn't think of that
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:35 No.17570146
    rolled 17 = 17


    My house is a freakin' Fort Knox then.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:40 No.17570184
    What is that?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:43 No.17570200
    What is google?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:44 No.17570210
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    What is love?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:44 No.17570211
    Oh my. Maybe this should be deep within the Erector ruins. Large binders containing those from the many tribes, from the magic, sports, promos, fastfood cardboard cutouts that came with toys.

    And speaking of fastfood toys, they'd have a place in the dump for sure.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:44 No.17570212
    In Nechronica you play as an undead doll brought to life by necromancers in a post apocalyptic shithole of a world. You fight other necromancers' dolls and can salvage parts from them to replace your own, body modification is built right into the game already.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:45 No.17570219
    Baby don't hurt me...
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:45 No.17570220
    I'd imagine them just walking around on their bottom corners while upright giving an appearance of waddling. If they fall on their fronts or backs, they require a lot of effort or a bit of help to get up.

    I can't see them knowing all that much really unless they can read.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:46 No.17570223
    ....Can I find a new pair of legs and lower torso for that poor boy on the cover?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:49 No.17570250

    Well, I was operating under the assumption the cards with text on them could read.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:49 No.17570253
    Someone archive this shit IMMEDIATELY. We must continue on a later date.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:50 No.17570259
    Is the crunch worth using for this?
    Or should this be a setting to use with whatever system you want?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:52 No.17570277
    as the op, i must let u know i'm a long time lurker and have no idea how to do that, someone else must take up the banner :P. However, so many great ideas that i will regardless try to start this up again if i don't see it
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:52 No.17570280
    When you say doll, is it safe to assume you mean a soulless organic puppet? Or are we talking about raggedy Anne here?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:56 No.17570310
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    >ctrl+F meccano
    >no results
    Heh... None of you know TRUE power.
    Lego has the numbers and the rebuildability, knex may have structural strength, but Meccano, the real, metal ones would be the true masters. They are MADE of metal. They would only need to sharpen parts of themselves to become super effective. Not to mention that they're not battery op (well, some).
    Pic related.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:57 No.17570313
    Organic puppet, likely with a soul, otherwise where would the drama be?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:58 No.17570320
    You know what I just remembered?

    Those three witch sisters in Greek mythology, who only had one eye and tooth between it.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:59 No.17570327
    Why would someone throw THAT away?
    I'd think they'd be a rarity in the dump.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)02:59 No.17570328
    That's doable and might be pretty cool. I imagine there might be a few things like that.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:00 No.17570337
    damn, who ever can afford their services would be unstoppable ::D
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:00 No.17570339
    Oh god. My childhood and that of my father. You, sir, are excellent for reminding me of those.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:01 No.17570343
    Exactly. A rarity. A powerful, powerful rarity.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:01 No.17570346
    And forgot, Lego and K'nex have figures to operate things.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:04 No.17570364
    But on the other hand, living trading cards. It's all reasonable. I need to think more before I post.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:05 No.17570372
    I was kinda thinking the same thing, them being rare, that is. But people would have thrown them away. I've seen them at the dump.

    Because of their few numbers and incredible power, I would imagine they would me toys-for-hire. Not really their own faction like lego or K'nex, but being found scattered everywhere. The lego empire may have a few Meccano pieces at their disposal, as would k'nex.

    I also reckon that the RC Cars would be indebted to Meccano for repairs and suchlike. Meccao arms, legs, etc could be like bionics for toys, just look at OP's image. Imagine a toy who's body has been wrecked... Then his friends take him to the local Meccano model/construct/whatever who then gives him a new spider body thing.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:10 No.17570410
    For some reason i thought of the Meccano as repo men just now. they will fix ya up, but if you dont pay up, they are gona rip the parts out of ur body when u least expect it.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:12 No.17570426

    it's >>17570310 and >>17570372 here.

    I think that Meccano things would only gain sentience when assembled and then would only have sentience relevant to their complexity. So that bulldozer would be fully sentient, but a little thing like pic related would be like a horse. Something else would have to take care of it in order for it to live.

    Second thing is that GODAWFUL plastic heresy they are also labelling Meccano. Much more common than the metal stuff, but obviously not as high quality or powerful.

    I'm not sure of Plastic Meccano and Metal Meccano should be against each other or if Metal Meccano models would use plastic parts in lieu of the higher quality metal.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:14 No.17570440
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    There are tons of toy reincarnations of the same super hero... different timelines with different equipment etc...
    What do you think, would they work together as a faction or fight over who is the 'real' one?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:18 No.17570480
    Depends on the character in question.

    A bunch of supermans? they would work together.

    A bunch of Jokers? The would work together, but in a rivalry sort of way, as to who could be the most "funny", executing those who make bad jokes, as they were not good enough.

    I can't think of turn on each other examples, but you get my point.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:21 No.17570502
    Three posts here.
    Perhaps plastic would be used until they could be replaced with the higher quality metal.
    I just looked into them, and it seems that they're Erector under a different name. Maybe there should be a difference between the two in game. I'm thinking Meccano are the metal denizens of the surface world. Erector is the lost city beneath the surface. And I was worried about one of the two reaching it.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:26 No.17570543
    Nah. Just have a look at this:

    It's just branding; they're the same thing. The 'Erector' brand name is currently used for Meccano sets sold in the United States.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:29 No.17570561
    Blah, forgot to mention. That last sentence is a citation from wikipedia.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:33 No.17570594
    I said that in this setting Meccano should be the living machines, and Erector should be the ancient buried city, also making note that in reality they're just different names for the same thing.

    Something else. Richer toys can afford to build homes of Lincoln Logs and Tinkertoys. The poor have to stay in what they can find.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:35 No.17570605

    Please use actual toys if you require 'minis' and maps.

    Also, please include beanie babies in some way. That imagery will pull at heart strings. And speaking of pulling, you can have someone slowly pull a string out of one, and the beans fall.. oh god it's horrible.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:35 No.17570608
    >Something else. Richer toys can afford to build homes of Lincoln Logs and Tinkertoys. The poor have to stay in what they can find.
    Sounds good.
    >Ancient buried city.
    Mite b cool. I'm not sure.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:37 No.17570627

    Going off the idea of
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:38 No.17570637
    Oh I see what you're saying now. Yeah. Sounds good.
    I'd imagine Meccano constructs would try to suppress any rumor of the ancient city of Erector.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:39 No.17570647

    Son if you've got the means to play that please hand it over. We spent a good while researching and translating and doing everything we could with what we had, but not one copy of the book even in moonrunes to be found.

    Don't you hold out on me.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 01/17/12(Tue)03:51 No.17570739
    Nobody's taken the army men thing further, but I think there's a hell of a lot of potential there.

    Nothing ever changes in the Battlefield. But it wasn't always this way.

    In the Beginning, there was the General. First of his kind to awaken, first to gather the others to him, and founder of the oldest continuous toy empire. It was he who led the Regiment, soldiers of metal who carved out their empire. It was he who built the first true city of the Dump, and he who uncovered the mighty machine that sat at its heart, the Casting Press. It was he who turned it on, granting every Man in his empire a form of immortality; for even when an Army Man suffered the gruesome damage necessary to finally die, they could be cast anew. It was he who discovered the terrible secret of the Casting Press in the darkest days of their war with the mighty Brick Empire, and began to melt down prisoners and parts alike to be recast as one of his own. And at last it was he who saw the horror of what he had created, and destroyed all records of the horrific process before hurling himself into the Casting Press, ensuring it could never be used again for that dark purpose.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 01/17/12(Tue)03:52 No.17570744
    His city is long gone now, replaced by a hellish wasteland of flattened earth and shattered parts called only the Battlefield. All that remains is the Casting Press, standing tall above the ruins of the thousands upon thousands of fortresses built to occupy it. For it was the day after the General's death that the Army Men split into factions that war to this day.

    At first it was the Greens and the Tans. Both believed the General's empire must be maintained at all costs, but disagreed on how to do so. The Greens believed that only the greatest amongst them should be recast, and recats alone. By recasting each man from only his own parts, he would retain more and more knowledge each time until the process was perfect. They would create an army of truly immortal men, each with an eternity of experience. The Tans believed that every last man should be recast, and if not in full, then in part. It is the only fair way, and if that means the recast must endure the confusion of recombination, so be it. They may not have the great experience, but by the General they would have the numbers.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 01/17/12(Tue)03:53 No.17570752
    The original ideals of each have long been forgotten, and dozens more factions have arisen; Blacks, Teals, Whites, though not all combined have the strength of the Greens or Tans. Every day more and more Army Men wander into the constant grinding warfare that turned the city into the Battlefield, to stand and fight until only their parts return. Each night teams of vehicles and auxiliaries go out to recover the parts of the fallen, to be held in storage until the Casting Press can be retaken and its fires lit. Whichever side holds the Press frantically works the Cast, shovelling any manner of plastic they can find into the workings, Green, Tan or even different toys altogether. The other side sends every man it can muster against the Press, until the last ranks can climb the shattered parts over the fortifications of the Press and claim it for themselves. Then, the vast mounds of parts on their side diminishes, as those on the other pile up. Parts from the other factions are taken and fed through the process, powerful dyes converting the unwilling to their new cause. There are only two kinds of Army Men who have never been recombined, and they are the thousands of fresh recruits yet to see a battle, and the most ferocious and deadly veterans. And so even though the colours may be different, each man and each army is always the same.

    Because nothing ever changes on the Battlefield.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)03:55 No.17570781
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)04:03 No.17570854
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)04:05 No.17570866
    That's pretty good. Seems a bit too self contained though.
    One other question: What powers the press?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)04:25 No.17571026

    Whatever makes all the toys come to life.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)04:27 No.17571039
    So... Is the cast itself sentient?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)04:27 No.17571043

    Could be like Master Mold from X-Men
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)04:32 No.17571079

    Perhaps that's why the toys are coming to life in the first place?

    It is a tool that gives shape. By forming plastics, it gives what it forms an identity, a conscience - it imbues the plastic it forms with whatever energies are necessary to give the object life.

    So after many years of sitting unused in the dump, that very energy leaked into the environment, giving life to the discarded plastic toys that it once was used to form.

    Although whether it's truly sentient or not is something that should be debated, or the very thought be considered insane.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 01/17/12(Tue)04:33 No.17571084

    It's only self-contained because I was describing the story, not the interactions. The Battlefield is a notorious place in the dump, partly because of how fucked up it is, but mostly because it represents fortune and opportunity. There were a great many devices and fortunes in the General's empire, lost in the fall and buried under the rubble and limbs. Adventurous toys could seek to brave the battle or the night and go diving in the ruins for valuables. Others might sign on with Green or Tan as auxiliaries, volunteering to go lookign for these things under protection, forfeiting anything the Army Men see as valuable and keepign whatever they have no need for. The Army Men are very organised, and send out search parties into other areas of the dump to gather the resources for their unending war. Some toys hire on with a side to fight, generous contracts offering quick riches for the few that survive. It's not uncommon to see other toys towering over the green and tan tide, but they can do little to change the conflict after their first appearance, when they don't know how to kill them. The Army Men also hire out their forces as mercenaries in exchange for crucial parts. The newly-awakened and freshly-recats are of little skill or size, but their incredible loyalty and lack of fear make them useful. Hiring experienced soldiers costs much more, all the way up to One Year Veterans, who have managed to stay alive for a full 365 days of battle. They are enormously expensive, but their sheer experience makes them incredibly valuable allies. There are some who have lived longer, but they are invariably too important to the Green or Tan cause to let go.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 01/17/12(Tue)04:34 No.17571090
    The original Army Men, pre-plastic, are figures of legend in the Dump. Called the Tin Men, even though many were lead and few are by now unadulterated, the handful that remain have been alive for far longer than other toys, and that experience makes them unparalleled combatants and leaders. Because their unique nature requires them to be recast by 'hand', they never lose their experience to the Casting Press, but they do retain some fear of death. Most serve as the highest-ranking officers for Green or tan, Brigadiers and Generals, or special commando units for the most crucial operations. Their ancient attire and bright colours makes them stand out, but having literally decades of experience each means that those that survived this logn are all but unkillable. A handful of them stil remember the days of the General, and have left the Battlefield in dusgust with what became of the General's legacy. They wander the Dump searchign for purpose, trading their services for fresh metals and paint. They are highly prized as allies and advisors, but also constantly hunted, for they are walking concentrations of light metals and so incalculably valuable to the Battery-operated. For the few dangerous or lucky enough to bring one down, a lifetime's supply of potential solder and wire is the prize.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 01/17/12(Tue)04:35 No.17571101
    Green and Tan alike prize above all things the strange greasy fluid found in the vast machines reputed to be used by the humans as transport. They each have tens of thousands of Men roaming the dump to bring it home, and reports of entire tanks or cans full of it see the deployment of entire expeditionary forces. Making a find can see a toy's fortune made, if he can keep it from being stolen until the Army Men arrive, but where it is denied expropriation is inevitable and catastrophically violent. It fuels the Casting Press at the centre of the Battlefield, and is ironically the one substance there is an element of restraint about. the Lliquid will be constantly attacked and stolen, but never destroyed, even when held by the side controlling the Casting Press. Green and Tan alike both recognise that if the Press ever falls silent, the war will at last come to an end underneath the ruins of their forces.

    Fevered rumour tells of the purpose of this liquid; a noxious brew that satiates the vast creature imprisoned deep beneath the Press and guarded by elite corps of Tin Men. The creature, larger than any toy ever discovered, seems to be eitherunaware or deeply apathetic, but when fed its favoured substance, produces so much electricity it could charge the batteries of a thousand toys in an hour. Some of the Battery-powered revere it, but even the doubters idly dream of the day they earn the favour of the Great God HONDA.
    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 01/17/12(Tue)04:43 No.17571149

    The cast is pseudosentient, in the same way a god is. It could be aware, but if it is, it is at a level so far beyond the toys that it can't be expressed. I like the idea that sitting unused for so long made the Press come alive, and that its fevered God-dreams gave life to the toys around it. It didn't plan or intend it, but the sheer power of its longing to create once more was what drove the General to create his empire, and for the others to contest it, until by dark fortune the desperate times of the Brickwar led to it becoming awake again. Glad to be given a purpose, it created often and happily, but when the Army Men grew desperate and fed it anythign they could to produce their insane Frankensteinian creations, the combination of its own dreamlike awareness of the subversion of its purpose combined with the torment of the toys recombined drove it into a dark insanity. That is why the Dump is such an unpleasant place. The Press sees its world as dark as the end days of the Brickwar, and by its unintended will, so it becomes. The General's real purpose in stoping his creation was his realisation that the Press itself was aware and getting very, very upset. Whatever it was that caused him to fail in quieting it is the mystery of this piece; whether it was his choice not to silence it, the will of the Press, or the intervention of a third party. Plus, the inevitable ending to such a campaign is finding the truth of the Press and what to do about it, and making your way through a perpetual war between tens of millions of tiny plastic men to get there is a suitably epic adventure. Hell, it sound a little LotR now.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)04:44 No.17571160
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    You forgot clay

    4)Clay = even more modable than Lego and only destroyable by dirt , fire and cold , none existant physical attack although clay characters can slow down otherss by sticking to their joints
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)04:51 No.17571206
    Let's elaborate a bit more on weapons here. Steak knives and maybe high-powered BB guns could work. Perhaps some black market weapons could be recalled toys deemed unsafe for play? Some china-made toy that shot its pellets hard enough to break skin, yet the weapon was an accessory for another toy that makes it small enough to conceal beneath a Ken doll's "Stalker ken trenchcoat"?

    We need advantages for plush toys too. Hard plastic figures can throw punches and take hits with little more than a bit of buffing out later, and battery toys are either smarter and more charismatic ((Talking toys)) or far stronger ((Moving parts)) at the cost of needing power. But plush? Well, being sewable and being able to conceal things within yourself are all that come to mind.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)04:54 No.17571216
    The Gelatinous Cubes of toyland have been found!
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)04:56 No.17571222

    My suggestion:

    Plush toys are often bigger than other toys hence physically stronger although not in combat. They get charisma bonus in the endgame if they are not dirty.

    The endgame is your final goal: Become a kid's toy again by sneaking onto a market.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)04:56 No.17571226

    Maybe what finally gave the press life/extra push into sentience/powers it is the spirit of a child, who, in years past, was accidentally killed by said press?

    Perhaps that was the reason why the press was dumped in the first place? A child during some "visit the toy factory" was accidentally killed when he fell into said press, and as a result, the press was discarded at the dump?

    The combination of the press's longing to create once again and the spirit of the child wanting to play with his toys were enough to give the Press it's mystical abilities...

    Or, perhaps, the child was killed by the Press after it had been dumped, providing it the necessary energy to come alive in the first place.

    Both might explain the absence of humans in the dump.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:08 No.17571273
    The Great God Honda got me. laughed so incredibly hard. The i realized that im going to totally steal the idea :D
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:08 No.17571275
    This is an option.

    I'd also say render them IMMUNE to bludgeoning damage. 'cause really, you can punch a plush as much as you want and it can just take it.

    What this means is that if you give them armour then a plush toy will be really fucking unkillable, because the armour will give them resistance against slashing damage, which is their weakness.

    Now, where would armour come from?
    Apart from the most obvious (reworked metal) there are a number of options: plastic meccano, tin foil, plastic bits and pieces.

    But the most obvious and common is really the most simple:
    Dried mud.
    It would be very common and easy to make for the toys.

    Low level armour: Dried mud
    Upper Low: Dried mud with plastic stuck on

    Lower Mid: Dried mud with metal stuck on
    Mid: Plastic

    High: Metal

    Plush toys with armour would be tanky as fuck.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:11 No.17571287
    >Apart from the most obvious...

    >But the most obvious...

    I meant:
    But the most underrated
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:12 No.17571293
    But puncture the armor, and they have to watch their life's stuffing leak out their body.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:14 No.17571309
    I think plushies would be toughest because they are the easiest to fix honestly. Some stuffing falls out? No problem, just pick it up stick it back in and grab some string. Their obvious weakness though is fire. Like Trolls in most fantasy I guess.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:18 No.17571326
    Does stuffing leak?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:22 No.17571345
    rolled 37, 7, 100, 57, 78, 55, 42, 24, 33, 13 = 446

    I love you /tg/
    Take all these hugs!
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:26 No.17571365

    There's a flaw with your armor suggestions:

    High armor should be the most rare to obtain but it can be found literally everywhere on a garbage dump.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:33 No.17571390
    Please do not ruin a good game with this shitty end goal
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:35 No.17571394

    On a second thought: Easy to find yes , easy to manufacture no.

    You need a workbench to customize metal armor...better use aluminium tins and cut them with a scissor.Mechanist lego man needed.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:35 No.17571402
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    Poorly fitting metal armour would cut into the plush toy as they moved and hit; shredding and tearing them.
    Metal is everywhere yes, that's why mud armour with metal bits stuck in would be everywhere, but full metal armour would not be because finding some that was a good fit would be rare.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:40 No.17571429
    armour cont.

    Endgame Tier: Meccano armor (May have to use both metal and plastic parts for flexibility)
    It would be goddamn powered armour.


    Oh, almost forgot. Metal shields would be common because of the abundance of things like tin can lids, bottle caps, etc.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:46 No.17571465
    ya, the armor thing becomes an issue in this setting and scale. While, metal armor would be sweet, there are weapons that would simply shred any sort of armor a toy could muster. Metal scraps would do little to protect against bottle rockets, much less fire or bullets. I was thinking the combat system would have to be based much more on conflicting success rolls then some sort of armor class.

    Ex: a ranged attack vs a dodge roll

    But the armor could defiantly reduce damage.

    Ex: melted styrofoam could give a -1 to slashing
    and metal a - 2 to everything

    (except nothing would help from weapons that could even harm a god grievously of coarse)
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:49 No.17571479
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:57 No.17571529
    I would imagine combat would be similar to the times of the first cannons:
    Combat is mostly melee based with the exception of very unwieldy ranged weapons like catapults trebuchets and said bottle rockets.

    So I think armour would be very useful.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:57 No.17571530
    Obviously it would be an incredibly hard to find item, and even harder to find some launcher to shoot it. I would expect to find one or two at best (not even guarantied to work) . By no means did i mean they would find an ammo case of them lol.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)05:59 No.17571535
    Don't forget emptying fireworks and making blasting caps. Soon as the green legion (army men) found a safe way to do it they would start artillery striking EVERYTHING.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)06:07 No.17571570
    I doubt they'd do it on the battlefield for fear of damaging the Casting Press.

    I would assume that they wouldn't be restricted to one faction though.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)06:08 No.17571576
    Here's another idea:
    Modified nerf gun that fires flaming oil soaked foam darts.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)06:16 No.17571594
    I didn't take account the press because I personally thought it was a bit much. I like the idea that there's no "new" toys in the wasteland, just trash. Refluff it how you want and type it out though, more ideas is better I'd say.

    Searching for ammunition would be interesting, maybe they take the base gun and make scavenged ammo? With the oil type being a special incendiary type round?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)06:16 No.17571596
    If the toys all take on roles that the toy itself represented, IE, superman toy acts like superman, then isn't there quite a big space for the "good guys?"

    Power rangers, GI Joe, Autobots, DC and Marvel. these are all kind of toys that would logically band together to protect those under them.

    Like a sort of Toy justice league, of course newer hero toys will fight them before coming to terms like all Hero meetings happen.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)06:16 No.17571597
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    I'm definitely rolling a giant microbe plushie and sparking a Renaissance in the dump with my ability to create true life.

    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)06:20 No.17571614
    I think it would depend heavily on the toy itself.
    Did you treat your superman doll like shit? Well maybe he's resentful and has it in for other "groomed" supermen as he sees it. Also, maybe some toys are "racist" and only respect toys from their brands or something?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)06:25 No.17571632
    Fair enough on the press. I do agree to an extent.
    However, I think that "gunpowder" weapons would be stockpiled rather than used.

    They don't quite. They have the personality of whoever they're modelled after, but they don't have the experiences.
    >They can even remember their creation and lives before being thrown out.
    They know they are toys, unlike Buzz did in TS.

    Imagine two superman figurines; one poorly treated and the other prized:
    They are not going to agree and get along.
    The prized figure is going to be proud but confused that he was thrown away; the other is going to accept being discarded as just another crappy thing in his crappy past.
    The prized one may try to hold on to truth, justice and the american way whereas the other will have discarded such idealism.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)07:17 No.17571871
    >Also, maybe some toys are "racist" and only respect toys from their brands or something?
    I can see that being the case for toys who's owners showed brand loyalty.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)08:23 No.17572239
    Just woke up. Had a couple ideas before going to bed.
    The Glorious Barbie Republic of Freedom (see >>17568980 ) may take cloth and thread much needed by the stuffed toys, in order to make new outfits.

    Another, Creepy Crawler bug maker. Out in no man's land, one was found, and over time, reconnected to power. A cult of sorts has been formed around it, willing to melt themselves down and be reborn in a superior form. For the smaller plastic toys of the dump, it is recommended not to go out alone after dark, for not all come back.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)08:44 No.17572371
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    >D&D and 40k miniatures march in to conquer all the lesser toys.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)08:46 No.17572392
    They already got made into lego blocks because they can't move and fall apart when touched.
    Keep up.
    At least army men can bend thus making movement logical.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)08:48 No.17572399
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)08:49 No.17572410
    I was just taking the piss mate, sorry. If you can think of a reason why the hordes of IG minis can pool together and form an empire by all means write it up.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)08:55 No.17572453
    Just assuming they could move...
    >implying people throw away that many miniatures.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)08:55 No.17572454

    Nerf guns.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)08:59 No.17572487
    Yeah, they'd be quite rare, actually, just imagine a wandering D&D PC. Wrecking everyone's day with his "adventures".

    Alternatively, maybe humanity has been wiped out somehow, and the toys inherit the earth?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)08:59 No.17572490
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)09:00 No.17572497
    Pretty sure that was suggested. The answer is:
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)09:01 No.17572510
    What happens when a human sees a walking toy?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)09:05 No.17572530
    He goes to see a psychiatrist for some antipsychotics, duh.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)09:11 No.17572574
    Would this dump have a smelting plant or whatever it is to burn grabage and junk? If so I could imagine a group of battery operated toys living in a building and revering a battery charger and it's rechargeable batteries, the bringer of life.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)09:11 No.17572583

    That's kinda lame, the toys should avoid being seen at all costs.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)09:18 No.17572647
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    Imagine an old Fortress Maximus toy.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)09:33 No.17572761
    Meccano, armour and modified nerf gun guy here (I've also been answering various questions)
    I've started some writefaggotry but I'm too tired to continue;
    so I'm going to bed now, I really hope this thread is still alive when I wake up.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)09:52 No.17572912
    People talk in whispers of the ledgend of the cult of the Fruit, powerful sages that have long since ran out of power. Tales of their xenophobia and superiority complex have spread far and wide.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)09:56 No.17572948
    You got the right thread?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)12:59 No.17574439
    I love this thread.

    Players should be required to actually own their PC and to bring it with them.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)14:07 No.17575189
    Going back into Barbies/other fashion dolls, they have their obsession with perfection. If that can't be had, completion. This'll lead them quickly down the path of Mangled if there is any damage and no correct parts. An action figure is more resistant to the temptation.

    Hotwheels/Matchbox cars are an independent group, but often are employed as messengers between the major powers of the dump. If there is track, they'll just like to drive.

    And Huggy Bear is very related.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)14:08 No.17575196
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    Ugh... Forgot pic.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)14:10 No.17575230
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    That's how I multiclass paladin/barbarian
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)14:13 No.17575255
    Army toys got a lot worse than just being thrown away, like being melted. In the Microwave, or under a magnifying glass. Or chopped to pieces with a hedge clipper, or dropped in nasty looking stuff.

    "..I've seen some shit."
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)14:39 No.17575518
    So, Bionicles. Would they be the golems of the lego empire, viciously abducting the larger toys for melting down, or would they be a slowly separating faction drifting away from the main empire, like in real life?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)14:53 No.17575658
    TO answer everyone who asks "How could that X get thrown out / who would throw that away?"


    Admit it: your Mother / Father, at some point in your life, went through your things and threw many, many, many of them away.

    Maybe it was your Ninja Turtles when you went off to college, maybe it was the G.I. Joes when you moved... maybe it was your entire gaming miniature collection that one time where you were going through a rough patch and depressed.

    I lost two tubs full of Lego, including those cannons that actually fired, to my parents when i went away to college. In the same sweep, I lost all my Heroclix, and all my Mechwarrior, all my k'nex, my erector set, countless action figures... and all my Pewter minis for D&D. I only kept my D&D books because i was smart enough to take them with me to college.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)15:15 No.17575871
    >two tubs full of Lego

    Jesus Christ, that's worth like $2000 now! Why aren't parents trained better in nerd investments?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)15:40 No.17576183
    bump, cuz fuck letting this die. was with this since op started the thread until hitting the rack at 3am. now that i'm awake, i'm reviving dis shit
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)15:48 No.17576269
    >ctrl-F "Accursed"
    >one match

    >ctrl-F "Engine Heart"
    >2 matches

    All right, carry on.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)15:58 No.17576390
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    Would the Army Men melt down plastic toys and mold new soldiers for their army? Think of it, killing legos and smelting them into new privates. A mish mash of multi-color levies. To more grimdark it, maybe this is seen as a horrible act by the other toys. And the Army Men use these....these....I don't got a name for them. Use these forged Army Men as cannon fodder?

    More Grimdark idea for Army Men: They act as a fascist empire. Focusing purely on military advancement. While not evil, they aren't really good either. They are inbetween, neutral. Though while a lego would try to kill you or enslave you on site, the Army Men would try to recruit you and leave you alone if you didn't want to join.

    Anyone else gonna explore the Army Men using fireworks more?

    I really love Army Men, a pack of those and I was set for a month(Things were simpler when I was eight). Also, anyone agree with my ideas? Anything to add on to them? Let's brainstorm people!
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)16:08 No.17576530
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    Bump with Army Men propaganda!
    >> Rubbish Soldier 01/17/12(Tue)16:15 No.17576620
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    Ya they would, makes sense, especially how they would use real life appliances and junk to make their bases, like this game. For instance, both sides in the game used blenders to basically store extra plastic to make more army men, sorta like a vat full of liquid plastic with complicated doohickies in the base of the blender that shapes and make the plastic army men... been a long ass time since i played this game
    >> CDR Nonsense 01/17/12(Tue)16:18 No.17576661
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    Unicron Transformer toy....
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)16:27 No.17576781

    I nostalgia'd.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)16:28 No.17576799
    Perhaps since batteries are useless to the Plastic toys, they use batteries to power their industry?

    I played that game too, man it's been so long. Maybe I can find a torrent.

    Any more ideas for Army Men? Perhaps we can flesh out how Non-Army Men function in their army?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)16:30 No.17576834
    probably as mercenaries
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)16:34 No.17576886
    Would the Army Men's guns work? It seems the strange power of this junk yard gives life to everything else. I mean, it wouldn't be too game changing. They just fire plastic bullets.

    Another Grimdark addition to the melting down toys to make more Army Men. Fractions of that toy's memories carry on with it, and it all forms into one mind. All the experiences of many toys, fragmented, form one new person. All the things they did in their previous life they'll see as if one person did all of them. Due to indoctrination into the Army Men way, they serve loyally to their new masters. When the realization comes to them, they either go crazy or just accept it and move on. It would make for great RP possibilities.
    >> Rubbish Soldier 01/17/12(Tue)16:34 No.17576893
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    Hm... well i remember that in many of the games, you always had to fight bugs like spirders, stag beetles, and roaches, maybe the Army Men manage to find a way to tame them and use them as attack animals? Like say they use bombadier bettles as a form of chemical attack
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)16:43 No.17577011
    This is giving me more ideas...

    The bugs and other creatures that have been "tamed" act as war elephants for the army of Army Men. The uses for these beasts could be as follows: Large beatles with roman candle side batteries, roaches strapped with firecrackers and sent at the enemy lines, spiders used for their web.

    This could make the army of Army Men a totally diverse group of toys. Army Men ranging from different colors, and different eras. I have some WW2 Army men(Tan = Germans, Green = Americans. Only Infantry no Green Shermans...) Some Vietnam army men(Tan = Vietcong, Green = MARINES HOO RAH!) finally the new types of Army Men. Plus the "forged" Army Men born from melted down plastic. All these different types are combined into one ideology; that this junkyard, must be ruled by one faction for peace. That's the Army Men's ultimate goal, peace. They believe only themselves can do this, that no other faction can rule this place responsibly. But until the army of Army Men have conquered this place, they will continue to fight and win at any cost.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)16:47 No.17577068
    See >>17570739 >>17570744 and >>17570752
    >> Rubbish Soldier 01/17/12(Tue)16:48 No.17577079
    Now this, this is good
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    So we have two ideas: One a sort of mythical tale of some long lost leader who caused the Army Men to split into hundreds of tiny sub-factions all fighting for their own sliver of a forgotten empire.

    And one a fascist country of diverse Army Men who all follow a single unifying ideology. They are the most technologically advanced, and the greatest threat to the Brick Empire(I still like Lego Legion but Brick Empire has a ring to it).

    So /tg/, which direction should the army of Army Men be taken into?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)16:59 No.17577228

    I personally would like to flesh out the Army Men like Dr. Baron von Evilsatan has already done with my direction. I hate to just tear down what he's done(I didn't see his posts, I was continuing from the point I saw the threat last night.). Still, I like my idea more than his...I'll just wait to see what others think.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:00 No.17577233
    The LEGiOn

    I can see the i and n added onto an old ripped up Lego box in sharpie and used as a banner
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:01 No.17577256
    I like it.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:02 No.17577268
    I love the different eras of army men. I have some Tan (Texans) and Blue (Mexican) with a little tin Alamo. I've seen plenty of cowboys and Indians too. Do they consolidate their armies into one color? would they accept a platoon of mid 1800s Frontiersman into their army or would they melt them and remold them into more modern troops? Personally I like the idea of a hodgepodge army of little green soldiers from across the decades.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:02 No.17577269
    Why don't we combine all three names? The army of the Brick Empire is named the LEGiOn. The main body is named the Brick Empire, and to their enemies they are known as the Lego Legion.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:06 No.17577315
    Their molds aren't as effective or accurate as the Lego molds so they have deformed limbs or faces or weapons and shamble with limps

    They have become degenerated cannon fodder, used as the first waves to soak up casualties and inflict damage through sheer numbers
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:06 No.17577317
    It would make sense for the army's regiments, battalions, and batteries to be divided up by color. Like the fifth Green artillery battery, or the seventh Tan infantry regiment. They won't be divided up by era though, you throw all those little bastards in one unit and hope for the best. I think if a inferior era Army Man dies, he is smelted into a more modern one, but not against their will while they still live. Maybe if it's in their will they want to by remade as the same era...that will is lost due to "mysterious circumstances".
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:08 No.17577342
    So the Legos can just keep rebuilding and the Army Men can just keep remolding, creating a static and constant state of warfare
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:11 No.17577377
    Perhaps that's what happens to the ones who, "came out wrong, Sir." But those who come out, well right, are just moved to a regular unit.

    IDEA! Mixed color regiments! Red Indians, Gray Germans, Green U.S. Marines. All fighting together against their enemies. It could allow for some interesting scenarios between soldiers.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:13 No.17577404
    Truely grimdark no?

    The entire ideology of the Army Men is that they will one day find peace, but quickly they are finding that will be more difficult than they could hope for when facing the LEGiOn. Perhaps all the Legos have to do is wait, while desertion rates rise amongst the troops of the Army Men.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:16 No.17577436
    What about the Sid-style toys

    Would those just be hulking monstrosities hostile to all
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:19 No.17577474
    alright, maybe we could give the setting eras: in the beginning, there was only the press. as toys began to come to life there was only confusion with toys banding together based on what they are and how they lived and these bands would war against eachother. Then at some point the green legion discovered the press and soon after that its abilities. Under the General's leadership the green legion brought together all the color armies under one banner and with this army he brought peace to the dump. Cue the Dr.'s story. A major change though: the General destroyed, buried, etc. the press and upon his self destruction his army crumbled into their old legion who would begin to war amongst themselves again. With the fall of the army, there is a power struggle of who controls the dump, with what we now know as the brick empire proving itself the most powerful with all the attributes in already discussed in the thread. The current era has the Empire trying to "purify" the dump while they also try to hunt down the remnants of the army which now exist in scattered outposts, hidden away from the dump. The newer army men to the dump are often captured and either indoctrinated into the empire or destroyed. Few find their way to their proper colored army. The Empire's hunt is not only fueled by a desire to bury the old rule, but to also find information of the life giving Press as their current ways of making new bricks is highly faulty and inefficient.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:22 No.17577514
    I like the idea of Legos being perfectly silent

    Walking in perfect formations

    All you can hear from them is the incessant clicking of blocks being fit together

    And they have Rube Goldberg style weapons and traps
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:22 No.17577515
    What if the different colors of army men had different stats, so army men would trade and fight to control dye and molds. That way they can keep their troops flexible.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:22 No.17577519
    How 'bout different options for the setting.

    A note for Brick Empire and [K'Nex], instruction booklets are very valuable resources. Some are blueprints for some of the most advanced structures.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:26 No.17577577
    New thread.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:36 No.17577723
    >because they can't move
    >Implying any of them can move
    Plastic army men don't have any joints. Neither do plush toys or plasticine.

    Of course, 40k will be a non-entity in the dump, as people are vastly more likely to sell on their models rather than throw them out.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:38 No.17577746
    We're still 40 posts away from the limit, and you can keep going until we 404. Keep your knickers on.
    >> Bigfoot 01/17/12(Tue)17:41 No.17577796
    These are all me...so for the purpose of this thread imma take up a name. Also, has anybody archived this thread?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:44 No.17577826
    foolz.us archives everything.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)17:44 No.17577830
    I was just trying to get ahead of the curve. Also a better summary for new people looking at this thread.

    Yes it has my good man.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)18:04 No.17578110
    foolz seems to be down at the moment, though. Will that interfere?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/12(Tue)18:14 No.17578221
    There needs to be rules for fighting racoons, stray cats, guard dogs, and other potential animal foes. Birds, collecting shiny things or nest building materials. Insects of varying sizes and dispositions. Abandoned pets of all shapes and sizes.

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