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    1.2 MB Dictator Quest Part Eight Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)14:25 No.17777781  
    Sorry for the delay/missed days. Had some "fun" in real life. As in, dwarf fortress grade 'fun.'

    And we return!


    Nation: Republic of Zanzi
    Information: Free Religion! Republic!
    Resources: Average Resources. Specific to come soon.
    Location: West Africa near Ivory Coast. Fictional location. To be mapped.
    Political Ties: Russia is a close friend - when they remember we exist... China has sold/loaned equipment to us before.
    Era: Near Future / Modern. Late 2012.

    Leader: President Negasso Garawa. Also known as "Xavier" - Elected President For Life.
    Race: Black Male
    History: Graduated from Moscow University with a business major. Has contacts within the Russian government.


    Still accepting proposals for flag designs (MSPaint them.) - No offensive flags please. Must 'fit' the logic of a national standard.

    >> NOVEMBER 2016 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)14:27 No.17777812
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    -Scotland wants refined oil and not crude... our refineries do not seem up to the task in selling others refined oil for use in vehicles. Though we could make a killing - it might affect our own gas prices/availability.

    -Ghana Flu may have been created by a lab, researchers say!

    -Black Superman is still running against you! Though after (indirect, unrelated, 3rd party) discredit the general populace has called for him to not run as president and continue fighting crime on the streets- where he belongs. Afterall, President For Life Xavier is doing a splendid job...right?

    -Brazil! The Soccer games have been going on and our people finally got their play... score is 14-5, Zanzia came out of the game with the 5...

    -UFO Incident! The UFO seems to have flown away faster than our Mig-21s could fly- even ball to the wall. It disappeared from radar over the coast. Advisers say it may have been an American UAV. One adviser says it could be aliens, pointing to the facts on the internet, claiming we should build an alien hunting military force and involve our friends in such force.

    -UN Inspectors and Russian specialists both agree that the Scud-Bs had conventional warheads, neither find any reason to destroy them. In addition a cache of 20 spare Scud Missiles in addition to the 5 on the 5 launch vehicles we recovered.

    -Interrogation of the Rebel has yielded some positive results. A cell of rebels in Tropicstan has been removed quietly. As well as documents linking their funding to Liberia being recovered. Due to this our generals have agreed to send some of their military funding to the rebels in Liberia held Ivory Coast.

    -WORLD NEWS! Russian Destroyer falls into skirmish with a Canadian destroyer in the northern passages around the North pole. Both nations claim that both captains actions were justified - but that this incident should not lead to war. No casualties.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:27 No.17777818
    >As in, dwarf fortress grade 'fun.'

    Oh, how much support does Black Superman actually have in our nation? Is it a bunch of vocal but small fringe groups? Or is it actually widespread?
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)14:28 No.17777822
    NOT accepting flags anymore. Woops. Damn copy-paste...
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)14:28 No.17777828
    Less than a few thousand people support him for president.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:29 No.17777833

    5 against Brazil? Impressive.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)14:31 No.17777856
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    I'll be honest. The 'fun' preceded plenty of free time... I could of done a new post last night...but in this world of darkness, one must have a happy light to look to.

    So I was...spending my night developing a D100 system for Pony-RPGs... just because I felt like it...
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:33 No.17777877
    Look into upgrading our refinery.
    Tell Scotland that we will upgrade our refinery to meet their requirements, then get back to them.

    >Ghana Flu
    Have our researchers examine the flu strain more. We can't afford to sling accusations yet.

    >Black Superman
    Have our campaign simply lay out the improvements we have brought to the country: enough food, security, and employment. We now have HOPE.
    Black Superman, while he is appreciated, can better serve by fighting supervillains, not balancing the country's ledgers.

    Congratulate our team on a good showing against a world champion. We'll beat them yet, right chaps?

    No, not enough evidence to start X-COM. Yet.

    Move them to a secure military base. Make sure they are properly maintained and security about them is tight.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:35 No.17777900

    Even better with the Scotland thing, we could get them to build or work on our refineries for a discount of the oil we produce!
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:36 No.17777902
    how is syria doing?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:38 No.17777931
    With regards to the scuds, how about we use them as a nanotech delivery system? Have a self replicating dissaasembler that can only replicate a set number of times and where each nanite decays after a set period of time.
    When the world discovers that we have nanotech, we need to be prepared
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:39 No.17777932
    In addition:

    >Liberian Rebels
    Get some more information on what the Rebels stand for. And make sure that the ZIA is careful; the CIA is, despite its reputation in the international intelligence community, still a force to be reckoned with.

    >World News
    Quietly approve of Canada and Russia being able to resolve their differences without violence.

    >Free Action
    Look into another desalination plant, and the possibility of exporting fresh water to our neighbors during this drought. That's more money we can use to upgrade our elite Strikers and get them some Spetsnaz training.
    >> alpharius !yJOmegoN4Y 02/02/12(Thu)14:41 No.17777945
    Suggestion from my insane housemate.
    Make a nanotech version of black superman that is loyal to us! We have the technology.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:41 No.17777952
    the UFO should be publicly called a weatehr ballon, this will draw conspiracy theorists to lookinto this so we don't have to.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:41 No.17777953
    I still want to slap the piss out of the people who thought about insulting our only REAL national hero by building a statue of him shaking Black Superman's hand.

    Fucking insulting and just plain dumb guys.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:41 No.17777955
    what happened to the nano-bots?

    was there ever any update as to what could be done with them, this sounds like a major resource to us
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:43 No.17777972
    As far as the updates go, we never built the statue.

    They have been proven to work in the small scale. The Cure for AIDs, the Orbital Elevator, and Increase the size of the Nanofax are still ongoing projects.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:44 No.17777984


    Yes, look into refining our own oil.

    >Ghana Flu

    Ask NeoTekz about it.

    >Black Superman
    Leave it be for now.

    scoring 5 times against Brazil is good. Just keep practicing, preferably against other African countries for now.

    Can't do anything about it now.


    maintain and defend them.


    Ask Russia/KGB guy if the information we found is enough to condemn them publicly. If they find out about our funding and go public with it before we do, we look like the aggressors.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)14:50 No.17778036

    It was never built.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:51 No.17778046

    What kind of alternate universe football game was this?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:51 No.17778052

    I know, but just the general idea of it had me shaking my head in disbelief.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:52 No.17778059

    They think it would be so randum xd, is the impression I was under.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)14:53 No.17778065
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    ....the I dont watch sports and made up some numbers, kind.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:57 No.17778099
    You should really throw something into the mix to spice things up, maybe a zombie infestation or some such.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:58 No.17778106

    Average number of goals is football is 2 to 3. Ameri /sp/ calls football boreball and 0-0ball for this.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)14:58 No.17778112

    For future reference, in today's ultra-defensive football/soccer, scores like 14-5 are nigh impossible. It's not like handegg where many points are scored, a 3-1 score would have been better.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:00 No.17778128
    So /tg/, I want to contribute and have read the thread but there's weird lingo (KGB guy, NeoTekz) that I assume is from previous parts

    too lazy to read previous threads, can I get a recap?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:01 No.17778134
    Did you know that football is called FOOT ball because it's a game that's played on foot, instead of the original "ball" game which was played by nobles on horses?
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)15:01 No.17778136
    Alright 3-1 it is.

    Its not a big deal though, this isn't an exact-sports-thread...moving on.

    New post shortly.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:02 No.17778143
    We need these people quietly rounded up, disappeared, and eliminated.
    This kind of stupidity needs to be quietly smothered and the body rendered down to fertilizer.
    It's the same as doing something stupid that a character would normally refuse to do because its patently suicidal for the sake of 'consistency'.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:06 No.17778186
    As a scotfag I'm just gonna ignore everything about the oil deals with scotland.

    Also, perhaps we should ask Russia if they want to establish a naval base here, would be in an advantageous position if they want to extend their naval capability into the South Atlantic
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:11 No.17778241
    >perhaps we should ask Russia if they want to establish a naval base here
    No, we shouldn't
    Besides eroding our independent and Unaligned status, it will likely put us on China's shit-list. And China is an ally of most of our surrounding neighbors.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:18 No.17778302
    And the other bases don't?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:25 No.17778387
    No, they don't.
    The airbase is only a quick stopover airfield, and the army base in the mountains is legally and technically Zanzian.

    Having Army, Air Force, AND Navy would tip us too far.
    Also, we rejected China's offer of a naval base. If we start one up with the Russians, that'll be an insult that the Chinese won't forget.

    We can build our own naval base, and allow Russian ships to dock, but the line has to be drawn that it is a Zanzian Navy base, and that the Russians are guest, not that it is a Russian naval base on Zanzian soil.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:28 No.17778411

    Well, to be fair the chinese HAVE been giving us some pretty shitty deals.
    >> DECEMBER 2016 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)15:33 No.17778472
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    -NeoTekz on Ghana Flu: They will have their biolab look into it.

    -NeoTekz abroad: European Union has shut down NeoTekz in Germany for violating a few local laws. Their only lab (known to us) now is in our country. They have requested to move all operations here and establish their corporate HQ in our capital city - OR - help build our "Green City" and build a corporate tower for themselves. (Dangerous experiments stay in the mountains.) They promise not only to employ locals, but help educate them as well.

    -After much discussion, KGB Guy says (Via satellite video phone from his mansion on the coast...for some reason blond hair is at the bottom of his screen.) that going full public with Liberia's mistakes would be wise. It would also alienate the US from helping them publicly. In short, Liberia could become another Pakistan for them.

    -Education! University classes have a medium success percentage! Students and Teachers have elected to call the new campus & university, "The Xavier Institute of Education and Technology." (XIETech.)

    -Desalination plan #2 is being constructed, however our work force is pressed.

    -Wild Fire Ends! It has been fully stamped out.

    -Drought still ongoing. We may need relief aid soon...or not...

    -NeoTekz Bread Box. NeoTekz has finalized their "bread box" version of the Nanite machine. At a cost of USD 40,000 a piece... it is capable of producing a new box of bread every half hour. (12''x6''x6'' is avg loaf size. 4 loafs of bread per half hour per box. Made from any solid material put in it. Sand to Plants to People.)

    -PIRATES! Another pirate ship has been spotted! It sank one of our fishing boats. A patrol boat intercepted and destroyed it, while rescuing 4 of the 7 sailors at sea. Sadly the other 3 are still missing.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:39 No.17778523


    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:39 No.17778530
    That worked out so...perfectly. Have them help build the green city (Which I think should be placed near the Ghana border) and set up a corporate HQ there.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:41 No.17778549
    Hmm, with say a loaf of bread being worth something like .5 USD we would have to have the bread boxes running for about one year at 24/7 to make a profit...

    Seems worth it. I do suggest we invest money in improving and expanding our farms as well, though.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:42 No.17778554
    Have them help in the creation of the Green City.
    Have the ZIA look into why they were shut down, however. I don't want to be funding an Umbrella Corporation.

    Following Ex-KGB Guy's recommendation, publicly disclose Liberia's involvement in funding the rebels in our nation.

    >Desalination Plant
    Continue work. We need the water.

    See if the NeoTekz nanotech can be used to filter water, until our second Desalination Plant is fully operational.

    >Bread Box
    Create 2 Bread Boxes to help feed our people.
    Begin preparations to patent the technology worldwide.

    Continue searching.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:43 No.17778570
    -Very good.
    -I'm all for NeoTekz helping us build our green city.
    -Go public with the info.
    -Yea, We are XIETech now!
    -very good.
    -I think we should get the bread boxes out to the areas that have been hit the hardest from the drought.
    -Did we managed to get any survirors from said pirate ship?
    >> Servant of the Emperor 02/02/12(Thu)15:43 No.17778571
    >A major technology company in our capital bringing supremely educated individuals with them? Yes please. A Green city would be nice, but i'd like them in the capital for their protection.

    KGB Guy
    >Sure then, but increase patrols in preparation for potential Lierba backlash.

    Buy a couple dozen of these and set up the 'Xavier Relief center' that'll ship to areas that need food, including tribal villages. The bread boxes in a guarded facility of course.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:50 No.17778659
    Send some MiG-21's to fly over and search the area.
    We don't have any dedicated rescue helo's, so they'll have to do.

    >Free Action
    Has the US stated whether trade with Iran can resume without them slapping embargoes on the participants?
    Has Iran responded to our "Oil Tech for Infrastructure Aid" deal?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:54 No.17778702
    while i'd love the help in the green city. i have this bad jive of cyberpunk megacorp cities all rigged to self-destruct.
    >Desalination Plant
    Proceed at a sustainable level.
    May see to requesting UN or AU water aid.
    >Bread Box.
    Patent the shit out of it. try to get some more of them and draw up a plan to use a few in Zanzian Embassies. where they can be used for Local aid, in case of hunger, or selling bread at reasonable prices to cover deficit. They will also be guarded, since well Zanzi embassy, and rigged to self destruct in case something like the Iran and Embassies happens to us.

    Try to enact a patrol grid using perhaps some of those hind helicopter while the pilots and their trainees have to log some seaborne flight hours.
    No need to engage the pirates, but if they can spot them...

    > Free Action.
    Try to get AU and african nations to cooperate on a W-E african railway/highway link. we have ours lamost done. if we could get the countries to our east , with a large commercial port in port liberty, and perhaps a similar end to the highway/railway link at the other end, there might be some very profitable trading that will increase African And Zanzian Economy
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:56 No.17778733
    a railway highway link-up will not really go through zanzia but through Congo/Zair and more southern nations.

    but a linkup with that one might be marginally interesting.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:56 No.17778738
    Another thing. How is our healthcare?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:58 No.17778759
    I'm against patenting the bread box technology just yet.
    Patenting it means releasing information about it, that the technology exists.
    I'd rather wait until we have the Cure for AIDs in hand, so that we can release both technologies at once, and make ourselves virtually untouchable on the world stage.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:00 No.17778786
    Improving, our average expected lifespan rose to 50.
    We're pumping out doctors and nurses as quickly as our education system can, but it takes time.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:02 No.17778814


    Look up why exactly they got shut down before agreeing to help them with their HQ.


    Go public.

    >Bread box

    Start sending out bread to areas hit by famine.


    Keep looking for the last 3 fishermen.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:11 No.17778973
    I have a feeling we are more of a Technocracy at this rate then an actually socialist republic. Or at least heading in this direction.
    >> alpharius !yJOmegoN4Y 02/02/12(Thu)16:15 No.17779013
    With regards to neotekz, would it be worth trying to cut a deal with regards to wepons contracts in return for government protection from international scrutiny into their affairs.
    If their only known lab is here, we could probably make investigating them quite difficult if needs be.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:15 No.17779016

    A mix of the two is, I think, the best way a society could turn out.
    >> DECEMBER 2016 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)16:23 No.17779114
    New post shortly.

    In response to the call for zombies/interesting things. Would you guys prefer me to keep things "real" (even the nanotech is still 'real') - or, not saying what it would be - move into more /tg/ things. (Zombies being an example but not a sure fire 'yes this')
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:25 No.17779130

    My vote is for "real." I get enough /tg/ stuff in my DnD group.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:25 No.17779133

    Keep it mostly hardish sci-fi, if you really must.

    I'd rather play the local and international politics, though.

    This is the /tg/ experiment that 'We can be better dictators than XYZ'.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:25 No.17779144
    Keep it "real". Keep the randumb out.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:27 No.17779158

    Keep it Real.

    Keep in mind though that even today we have functioning bionic eyes, ears, and limbs.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)16:27 No.17779164

    Exactly how I felt. Hard-Science will stay as it is. Anything possible in "real science" is where we will go.

    Oh and yes you will die of age... may wanna keep that in mind.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:28 No.17779178

    Oh shit, this isn't like EU3, where we control the country? SHEEEEEEEIIIIT.

    Alright guys, how do we make sure our efforts aren't undone when we die?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:29 No.17779193
    We put our brain into an AI.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:31 No.17779209
    How old are we anyway?

    Early twenties? Late twenties? Middle-aged?

    I vote for late twenties.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:31 No.17779215
    We need to come up with a clear line of succession. Though I'm actually hoping that our goal of a stable, progressive nation will have been realized by then, and that we can transition to a representative republic and the nation will be robust enough to survive the transition.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:32 No.17779223
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    I don't know if that's even possible yet.
    Although, if it is, why stop at AI? We've got nanobots - let's go full on foglet.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:33 No.17779245
    Ask NeoTekz to research life-prolonging drugs for us.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)16:35 No.17779277
    We are in our mid 30s.

    We. As I have treated this primarily as /tg/ IS the dictator.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:40 No.17779325
    Have we found our Spetsnaz waifu?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:41 No.17779341

    Actually, the way the discussions go is that Grand Leader OP ACTUALLY IS THE PRESIDENT.

    All of us are his constantly arguing cabinet.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:44 No.17779358

    >Grand Leader I think you should





    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:53 No.17779454


    >> JANUARY 2017 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)16:55 No.17779469
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    Or multiple-personality disorder... I'm good with OP being GL and players being the chamber staff or what-not.


    -ELECTION! You have won Grand Leader Xavier! Was it ever in doubt?

    -NeoTekz ZIA Investigation: European Union did not like the fact that NeoTekz had not told them about research in Zanzia. While EU is unaware of what they're doing - they saw it as tax evasion from a scam corporation.

    -Drought seems to be weakening as some regions receive limited rain fall. UN/AU support is helping solve the humanitarian aspects of this as well.

    -Ghana Flu research shows it is a naturally evolved strain.

    -Liberia says that this strains our peaceful relationships, and that obviously the rebels lie... Russia and China denounce Liberia.

    -WORLD NEWS! United States has redeployed its fleet towards Iceland, three carrier battle groups along with a Canadian fleet. European Union NATO nations are contemplating abandoning the US before they do something stupid for Canada's sake. Russia denounces the United State's actions in supporting Canada over this destroyer incident.

    -NeoTekz has had a break through! In researching the Ghana Flu, they have figured out how best to apply nanites to the human body. A cure for AIDs is around the corner. NeoTekz requests we keep silent.

    -The 3 remaining fishermen have been found on a beach, dead from gunshots. The dead pirates have Liberian paperwork on them. These were not Ghana.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:58 No.17779504
    hmmmmmm. I'm thinking we work on a shell corporation for Neoteks, maybe oil or diamonds or something.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)17:04 No.17779560


    Ask KGB guy, as well. If he doesn't come up with anything damning, go ahead with creation of Green City and HQ.

    >AIDS cure

    Stay quiet. We gon' be rich.

    >Dead pirates

    Alright. Alright. This is starting to get suspicious as hell. What, is Liberia handing out "OFFICIALLY DEPUTIZED BY LIBERIA" sheriff badges to all their contras? I'm not sure what to do going forward.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)17:18 No.17779688
    To tell you the truth, I think their more of privateers then pirates. We should confront Liberia with this issue.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)17:19 No.17779696
    Does any one else see world war 3 brewing? I think its time to pick a side or keep our heads down.


    this, I'm suspicious that these pirates would have Liberian IDs on them how sure can we be that this isn't a play by some third party to start a war with the Liberians?

    The NeoTekz might become either a massive problem or bonus to us, we may need to get creative with our accontancy to hide our nano-tech spending.

    Just how trust worthy are these guys?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)17:21 No.17779712

    They're a multinational corporation. That makes them about as trustworthy as a common TUrk.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)17:27 No.17779775
    >NeoTekz requests we keep silent.

    Yes. Keep quiet.
    No need to break the news as this because USA and maybe other countries will use it to divert attention from their actions. Besides, we do not even know if it will work at all so announcing anything beforehand is unwise.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)17:30 No.17779800
    You seem to have come to the wrong board, perhaps




    is what you were looking for?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)17:34 No.17779835
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    [nospoilers] Ben duygularını rencide mi? [/nospoilers]
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)17:36 No.17779855
    >implying I thought it was trolling
    >implying /tg/ is known for the casual racist jokes
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)17:37 No.17779858
    >NeoTekz investigation
    Well that's the EU's loss. Have NeoTekz help with Green City.

    >Ghana Flu
    Alright, it's just a bad mutation. Catalogue it and move on.

    >AIDs cure
    Keep quiet.

    >Liberian pirates
    Too convenient. Step up anti-pirate patrols.

    >world affairs
    Keep our head down.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)17:52 No.17779988
    >Liberian pirates
    >Too convenient. Step up anti-pirate patrols.

    Yeah. It is as if SOMEONE wants us to go to war.
    Even eith recent incidents we should keep amiable relationship with Liberia
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)17:55 No.17780016
    Yeah, let's not go to war with Liberia, besides, we would either have to go through Cote d'Ivorie or by sea (with our pitiful navy)
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)18:00 No.17780075

    Or just, y'know, the good Ol' American way of bombing the FUCK out of them.

    Russia and China fucking abandoned them, and the US is hesitant as fuck to help them when they were funding rebels in our waters.

    Though we WILL wait a bit longer.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)18:00 No.17780081
    Somehow, I can't help but think that Israel is involved.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)18:10 No.17780189
    After doing some research it seems the Liberian Army is very much connected to the Nigeria, although that may have changed given recent developments. For example, their current CiC is a Nigerian Major General.

    And we don't want to mess with Nigeria unless we can get some more local support or help from Russia (unlikely in the current situation).
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)18:14 No.17780225
    We already have a decent army. By the time we finish procurement for the last batch of weapons we should be able to hold our own. Also, Russia hasn't invaded a country that it didn't border since 1968.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)18:39 No.17780466
    I'm home. New post coming.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)18:43 No.17780501
    The Nigerian Army is about 10 times our size and have shown that they can maintain forces efficently abroad, they have 2 frigates and 6 corvettes plus minor ships to our 10 Pt boats, our Airforce has better equipment but theirs is significantly larger and can take casualities we can't.

    While we may have grand plans for our army we aren't quite there yet in regards to training and armoured equipment, while they have plenty of armoured vehicles.

    I think it is safe to say that we don't want to mess with them just yet.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)18:47 No.17780534

    I've been looking for this thread FOREVER.

    OK, have Neotekz keep working on the AIDS cure. Have we been able to produce those 4 Fulcrums locally like I asked?

    And how's our military and civil purchases doing? (THE LIST, firefighting gear, etc)

    I also have some ideas about our force organisation, but it'll have to wait until we have more mechanised infantry and some tanks and SPAAGs.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)18:59 No.17780675
    I'm still laughing about how that one guy a thread or two back who predicted that Black Superman would try for a seat of power turned out to be right.

    Seriously, it was kinda guaranteed to happen once we learned that people actually BELIEVED he held the SCUD missile in place.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)18:59 No.17780676
    We should begin building large reservoirs for our farming communities, in case another drought happens to occur. This way, we can either continue farming production in a drought or at least stave off the effects of a drought long enough to ensure rains come again.

    And is that rail line ever going to be finished?
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)19:03 No.17780739

    Or we just have Neotekz look into a dedicated water-production box that can produce hundreds of liters of water at once for a given input, fast. As a mature evolution of the breadbox/ammobox, the cost should be worth it to African and Desert nations, because HOLYSHIT GUYS WE CAN MAKE WATER.

    Or we can do both.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)19:08 No.17780818

    I vote doing both. Droughts can last a very long time, and we need both a reservoir and continuous water to ensure that farming communities remain as unaffected as possible.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)19:15 No.17780924
    Once we do have the Neotekz water creation box, we should design a kill switch into it when we sell it to African nations that is controlled by our country. We would gain massive leverage if we controlled all of Africa's supply to fresh water, and maybe even become leader of the African AU?

    Of course, we would have to guard the tech like crazy.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)19:17 No.17780950

    We do that, we immediately lose the sympathy of everyone in the whole world. We'll just not sell it until we've turned Zanzi into a real, respectable company.
    >> FEB 2017 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)19:21 No.17781017
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    -NeoTekz says, theoretically, they could up-scale the box with large control towers (so nanites will not function out of bounds) and, theoretically, print entire chasms of water, or armies from the dirt within... though it would take a huge amount of power to do this quickly - routing power from the main grid of Tropicstan's thorium reactor could - with relative ease - produce whatever we need. Slower needs less power... the power is used because the nanites are not pre-programmed. They wish to build this larger version to help fix the drought, by creating a new river in the mountains... they would use nanites to condense the water vapour in the air - in a sense, for-ever-raining-within-area.

    -Liberia again insists it has nothing to do with these rebels and pirates. They insist they are not to blame, but now accuse us of funding their rebels.

    -Firefighting equipment was a focus during the wild fire and has all but been finished. No new military gear has been purchased due to focus on civics right now.

    -An international man from France, named Lex Luthor, has arrived to over-see KFC's sales and building a second store in Port Liberty. Black Superman no where to be seen at this time.

    -A second wild fire is underway due to drought conditions. Firefighters are already on it, its near Port Liberty and smoke is covering the city due to westward winds. It is also spreading into Ghana.

    -Education! The University has completed half of the campus using per-fabrications sold to them by the same company helping build Swa'sin City.

    -KGB Guy confirms the NeoTekz story through his Russian Friends. He is also inviting you (all?) to his party. World-class "companions" promised, along with the best Zanzian ice creams. It seems Putin is going to be joining him for this 'vacation' - in the down low.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)19:27 No.17781124

    Ok, have Neotekz begin work on the new river. That'll not only make it easier for us to feed ourselves, but also our neighbours, as well as telling the rest of the world we're actually concerned with our people and not just blowing stuff up.

    Speaking of stuff blowing up, is there any way for our factories to produce airframes or small-arms for us? Or can we at least get some support weapons and Fencers to upgrade our readiness in case of another SCUD attack or some ridiculous shit the Rebels pull?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)19:30 No.17781167

    >New perma-rain
    Hmmm. This would pretty much announce to the world that we've got something going on. I don't think this is the best idea just yet.

    Just leave them be for now. Maybe we wanna stop funding their rebels.

    >Lex Luthor




    >KGB party

    Do it. I want to talk with Putin, see what he's got to say about the world as it is today.

    >free action
    Promote some kind of home-grown industry. Something we can export, so we're not just selling raw materials forever. If we have the money, open some factories. Nothing wrong with some state capitalism.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)19:33 No.17781191

    We've been doing that for a while, actually. Especially with ICE CREAM.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)19:33 No.17781192

    >River in the mountains

    Sounds like a good idea, but make sure that it is built in an area difficult to attack should we go to war with a nation. Hitting something like that that provides water to farming communities would be devastating.


    Awesome, pretty soon we should begin to hire good teachers and have intelligent personalities visit the campus to help build prestige.

    >second wildfire

    Get on that as fast as possible. Coordinate with Ghana to help their firefighting efforts as well as our own. Such an act will help build relations.

    >KGB guy

    Yep, we are going. I want us to hobnob with Putin and other upper-class. I want assurances that it won't be leaked to the press/international community though.

    Speaking of which, how is our intelligence network coming along? I feel that we rely on KGB guy too much and we should begin developing our nations capabilities in this area. We should begin training of a spy agency and candidates immediately.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)19:34 No.17781219
    >Nanite Control Towers
    Okay, they can do this, but make sure to either keep the towers within a cave, or properly hide them from Google Earth. We don't want this getting out before we're ready.

    Alright, back off on accusing them.
    We were also supposed to get a report on what the Liberian rebels want; still waiting on that report.

    >Firefighting equipment
    Finish acquisition of firefighting equipment...

    >second wildfire
    ..because we have another fire to fight. At least we have good firefighting equipment now.
    We must contain the fire and stamp it out as quickly as we can.

    Attend, have fun, don't advertise or flaunt our attendance.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)19:40 No.17781299
    >We should begin training of a spy agency and candidates immediately.
    We already HAVE a spy agency! That's what the ZIA is.
    Ex-KGB Guy is the man we recruited to train our intelligence operatives and head our agency.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)19:42 No.17781323

    Oh, i haven't heard anything from them. All i keep seeing in intelligence reports is KGB guy not the ZIA.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)19:43 No.17781340
    In addition to our nanite river, have the Neotekz labs look into larger nanofabrication via a tower(In their moutain, obviously). Start with a few cars and such, then a couple TAR-21s. If all goes well, set up aforementioned system in a second cave system, and have it produce for US small amounts of military hardware we need, and that we have blueprints for (Effectively free Fencers and Fulcrums ahoy!) (Or even just fabbing all the parts individually to be assembled at our UAC factory.)
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)19:44 No.17781354
    That's because he's currently the Director of the ZIA.

    Next you'll say you don't know who Dmitri is.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)19:50 No.17781447
    I was just about to suggest turning into a Technocracy.
    >> FEB 2017 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)20:04 No.17781590
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    New post soon. Hoping too, to get some players back.

    We're clearly short.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)20:06 No.17781603

    Maybe you want to make a twitter, and announce when you're gonna run this with a link to the thread? Option number two is just to keep one dictator quest thread on the board at all times(like we had with the first few threads), but I figure that's hard for you.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)20:07 No.17781621

    Can we get another economic report? I know we had 15% spare in our economy to put towards stuff last time, but I want to know where our money is going again.
    >> FEB 2017 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)20:10 No.17781659
    Yeah, I'll do that now.

    As for the twitter - I refuse to touch it, even if it is worthwhile... just, eh...but yeah. I had to take a break from it this week, a constant going is hard like you said..but we'll keep going best we can. This isn't the end of the world. I just wanna make sure enough varied opinions are made before I make a turn, or people have a chance to think/type.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)20:13 No.17781683
    I can only see this ending in tears has Lex Luthor and Black Superman will wind up duking it out in one of the reactors.

    This makes me ask. Where is Batman?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)20:14 No.17781696

    Yeah, sure, that's what we need. An African Justice League, in our country.
    >> MARCH 2017 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)20:33 No.17781865
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    ++Financial break down
    On a 100 scale.
    -15 of our national budget is going to military up-keep and minor new purchases.

    -Infrastructure improvements, expansion, upkeep, 55 of our current financial proceeds are going to railroad, desalination plant 2, NeoTekz (Classified as a "average living quality improvement"), oil drilling & refining, and the "green city" Swa'sin City.

    -5 of our national finances is being spent on drought related costs.

    -5 of our national finances is being spent on misc.

    -20 of our national finances is being put into the vault to grow our reserves or unused.

    General economic outlook is: Average to Positive.
    -----------------------part 2 coming---------------------
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)20:36 No.17781905

    Can we use 5-10 percent of our savings to begin purchasing our military upgrades? I'm not sure just how much we're making, but if we can at least start introducing our new support weapons, if not start buying our Fencers and BTRs, that'd be great.

    Also, how are the ammobox trials doing?
    >> MARCH 2017 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)20:56 No.17782107
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    -Liberian Rebels are various groups. The primary two groups are two divided political groups. This is a continuation of the 2010-2011 crisis. Do some wiki-research.

    -Russia has sold us the rest of the fire equipment we need We are the next largest fire-fighting force in the region! Nations will surely call on us.

    -Regardless of our new fire fighting gear, this wild fire is a sheer mess! It is giving our emergency crews much needed experience.

    -NeoTekz has used nanite diss-assembly to make a new cavern, and hide it with artificial trees. They have begun making control towers big enough to create 4-6 million cubic feet of water a minute by using air-intake "caves" above, to pull in moisture and air - turning it to water. It is comparable to having Niagara Falls installed into the inside of a mountain and letting it flow out into the jungle, down into the planes... in short, a major river. It can be controlled however.

    -Party! \m/ - At the party you find plenty of lovely ladies, most of them speak Russian. None of them from Zanzia. There are several arms dealers, politicians, even a Ex-US Senator. Putin apparently could not make it to the party. Business elsewhere is keeping him at bay.

    -WORLD NEWS! Fleet standoff in international waters in the North Pole! European Union and United Nations is asking both parties to withdraw. (Especially since some members of the UN also consider those waters "theirs") Allied Fleet vastly out numbers the Russian Fleet. At this time, both are staying a respectable distance - with fighters playing tag in the air on the occasion. (Seriously happens occasionally in real life. They'll fly up to the other pilot's wing, etc.)
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)20:57 No.17782126

    Don't forget showing each other porn. (Not joking, pilots intercepting Bears used to show the Rooskie Pilots porn from their cockpits.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)20:57 No.17782128
    -Ammunition is complex. They are working on it.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)20:58 No.17782135
    Please tell me theres photos of this.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)20:59 No.17782144

    I wish, I've only read (reputable) stories online, but I can't remember where.

    There might be, though, you never know.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:00 No.17782148


    Eh, leave them alone for now.


    Well, since they've done it, we might as well put it to use. Get that water to where it needs to be.


    Ask Ex-US Senator about US. What's going on there currently, what he may know about their actions overseas, etc.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:05 No.17782193
    Fuck Gbagbo. He's part of the reason why African nations have such a poor reputation around the world. We're not going to support someone like him.

    Keep on containing that fire and putting it out.

    Control the river, channel it into our national irrigation system.

    Socialize, ask the ex-US Senator if he thinks we're out of America's cross-hairs, or if we should keep our head down.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:09 No.17782225

    Congratulate Neotekz on their work.

    Liberia and us will have a reckoning, but not yet. We don't yet have the military to run a proper campaign. Keep playing nice until we have at least a mechanised battalion and those Fencers.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:10 No.17782235
    We need to make sure once we go public with the nano power well be able to keep the advantage. the river and bread boxes are super, but what we also need is a nano AIDS cure, and i figgure a Cancer/Tumour/Aneurysm Cure, since once you can boost the immune you can go Hunter Killer on Anomalous growths and tumours. Perhaps even a 'Japanese Miracle' expy down the line, clearing NBC fallout.
    well need something like that , and it most likely will be also a industrial variant to clean waters of oil spills and rivers of mining waste byproducts.
    I hope we made some new contacts at the party.
    Some Arms dealers are always nice, and we could look for some ABMs and late generation SAMs or AtA missiles....

    Now that we have SRBM (SCUD! SCUD! SKUB!)

    Regarding the University, try to get our engineers a leg up on everyone in nanotechnology by cooperating with NeoTekz in having a joint research program wit the University on the aforementioned applications.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:12 No.17782253

    Oooh, good idea. Asking NeoTekz if they'd help train our engineers.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:12 No.17782257

    We have a modern SAM net in our country courtesy of Russia, just no mobile batteries.

    Neotekz is working on the AIDS cure, and apparently is nearly there.

    Our procurement list includes 2 more batteries of S-300s, SA-11 Gadflies, and SA-22 Greyhounds(Pantsir systems), and SA-18 Grouses for our infantry.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:14 No.17782275
    >>17782257 Addendum

    We have the most modern missiles available for our airframes, so our Fulcrums and Fishbeds have access to AA-10ETs, AA-11s, and AA-12s. once we get Flankers, I'm hoping we'll also be getting ALCMs, and Novators.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:14 No.17782278
    How the hell are we going to explain the new river without revealing our massive nanotech experiments? It's not like we can say there's a glacier up there that suddenly decided to start melting.
    Also, until it carves a river bed, won't the water just flood everything?
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:17 No.17782301

    One would assume they'll also carve out a riverbed.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:19 No.17782327
    Underground source of water in the mountains that we've been working on to use as a river?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:19 No.17782333

    Yeah, that's why I was against the river idea. But it's done.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:21 No.17782350
    This. We tapped a giantic underground lake with conventional means. Should suffice as an excuse until we are ready I hope.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:24 No.17782379
    It's a good enough excuse, and the story only needs to stay believable for a bit longer until the AIDs cure is finished.

    Also, only say it if we get asked about it.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:25 No.17782397
    You guys are also forgetting the political capital we'll be getting from this.

    We have NANOTECH now, functional nanotech. And instead of doing what any tin-pot would do(Weaponise it), we use it to better our country by creating humanitarian projects, like a new river and food production boxes, as well as working on curing AIDs. Anyone who calls us out on this would have to be insane, since we're only doing good things with the nanotech (Aside from our forays into lessening logistics, and potential nanofabbing of stuff, but that's top secret right now). We can go public with the nanotech systems we have (The breadbox, instant river, and soon, the AIDS cure), and start selling it to other countries that need it. That way, not only are we seen as good guys, since we're helping to end world hunger and make a green Africa, we get more money to continue upping our nation's standard of living and military to defend our interests.
    >> Not completely retarded 02/02/12(Thu)21:29 No.17782437
    It also makes us a huge target for everyone, we'd be the focus of every nation in the worlds spy agencies.
    Other nations do this stuff for oil, what do you think they'd do for the nanotech we have?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:29 No.17782444
    While we are at the matter of top-secret. Are we sure noone has found out yet? How good is our counter-intelligence (or our security for Neo-Tekz facilities/projects in general)?
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)21:31 No.17782465
    This. Does the ZIA have an equivalent ZBI or Homeland Security?
    >> Dintin 02/02/12(Thu)21:32 No.17782472
    This has been my plan all along.
    What happens if someone declares war on us? They're considered an international pariah and sanctions are put on them. What happens if they try to start a rebellion? We go public with the information as soon as we find out, just like we have previously. What happens if they try to infiltrate us? Well what would the point be? We'll be sharing our technologies with the world.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:32 No.17782474


    Lets go with the lake plan until we have a better military and the ability to nanofab whatever we need (And preferably combat-capable lasers)

    Also, did neotekz ever start a project to look into extreme-high efficiency capacitor and room-temp superconductors so we can build high-power lasers capable of being fielded in combat?
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)21:33 No.17782481
    Why not just railguns? Less finicky.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:35 No.17782511

    Better yet, why not just bullets?
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:36 No.17782528
    I also just realised we're the only country capable of building working railguns, since we can repair the rails easily after every shot.

    I propose a joint project with neotekz to look into developing railgun based artillery and naval cannons, in preparation for a nano-fabbed guided missile destroyer analogue.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:37 No.17782538
    You know that kind of technology would make Metal Gear a reality?
    Is this a good thing?
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)21:38 No.17782544
    Well, chemical combustion comes with a fairly short range limit (gases can only expand so fast.) I'm still hoping we can just make a bunch of cheap ballistic missiles by multiplying the electronic systems.
    America has one they've been testing over in Scotland.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:38 No.17782552

    Lasers are better for aircraft, you only need to point and shoot. Railguns are tank and naval weapons. We should ideally develop both, and then begin developing a SPAAG with lasers and SAMs, and a DDG with missiles, lasers, and a railgun.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:40 No.17782571
    I like it. This and blatant currency manipulation should give us a god-tier army in no time. As far as they know, we just discovered diamond mines.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:40 No.17782573
    Though I am in favour of a project like this if we want to weaponize the technology (and even if we don't) we really should step up the security regarding Neo-Tekz (and especially the weapons program if it comes to that).
    Literally every single intelligence agency in the world will be after that stuff once we announce that we have that kind of nanotechnology (whether we use it for peaceful purposes or not).
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)21:42 No.17782591
    Yeah, now might be a good time to push security to an absolute maximum. Sharing secrets is tantamount to treason, treason is punishable by death.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:42 No.17782595

    which is why FIRST, we need to get our military up to par with conventional (or simply some nanofab augmentation) means. Hence, getting the list purchased, so we can field an armored battalion, a fantastic air-force for the region, and begin reinforcing the labs.

    We should also look into making a second, deeper, nuke-proof site for the weapons research. That way, at least, the humanitarian shit won't be affected if they decide to go for the weapons.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)21:44 No.17782609
    We should pick up the PAK FA and the XM8. Not for any good reason, but because I love those weapons. We finally have an excuse to spend huge amounts of money on air power.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:46 No.17782627
    In favour of this.
    Especially the armoured bataillon (how long have we been trying to get that going now? Three threads? Four?) and the bunker for weapons research (if we decide to start a weapons program.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:46 No.17782630

    Goddamnit, read the archived threads on sup/tg/.

    We have a procurement plan and we're sticking to it (Except there ARE better variants of the SA-6, so we're getting SA-11s instead.)

    After we're done with that, we can begin again with a new armored battalion and second squadron of fighters.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)21:47 No.17782640
    New post inbound
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)21:49 No.17782671
    I was there for those threads, arguing over the need for an armored division. But we have new sources of funding now. There's a lot more need for military power just as it becomes affordable.
    Deathbase in Antarctica. On a more serious note,
    we really should work on a secure facility out in the desert.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:49 No.17782672
    You know what, I'm just gonna repost our procurement list from thread 7.

    Air Force
    -6 Su-24M2 (Latest Variant Fencer, multirole Aircraft)
    -4 Su-25 (Frogfoot, 8 total after purchase)
    -8 MiG-29 Fulcrum's (total of 12 after purchase.)
    -4 Mi-28 Havocs
    -12 Mi-24 Hinds (22 total after purchase)
    -6 Mi-8 Hips (Transport Helis, friggin big birds)

    - 3 Company-level formations of BTRs (72/25 split of 80s and 90s)
    - 18 T-90 tanks, with full ERA, electronics, and ATGM capability. (16 tanks for the line, 2 trainers/spares)
    -If we can't get the T-90's, buy 18 German Leopard 2's or Leopard 1's.
    -12 Russian 2S19 Msta-S 152mm Self Propelled Howitzer.
    - Pantsir SPAAG systems, at least two batteries (12 per battery, for 24 total)
    - SA-11 Gadfly system, at least two batteries (12 per battery, 24 total)
    - S-300 system, 1-2 batteries (12-24), plus dummies.

    - Igla MANPADs for our infatry.
    - Grenade Launchers, Negev LMGS(Israel), PKM Machine guns, and Dragunov SVDs.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:52 No.17782691
    Nanotechnology gets us a ticket to the front row seat of the most prominent first world nations.

    This is going to be something straight out of Deus Ex.

    Therefore we need some GitS level security and counter intelligence, plus a high degree of product control.

    Like not selling nano factories and river creators but renting.

    the AIDS cure and other would be on a per shot basis like insulin, so as to minimize someone creating a nanswarm weapon.

    Because, lets face it, if you solve self replication, that is what you get if you simply tell them to replicate. Sure , it wont get to grey goo, since that is impossible, but it will be far more devastating that its weight in bio or chem strikes. maybe even rival a small tacnuke radius . for something you can carry in a vial.
    especially the AIDS cure, if it is self replicating can be reprogrammed to be a specialized neuro cell hunter killer... you dont even need to destroy the central nervous system. just parts of it. make it airborne and semi self replicating and you depopulate a city.

    Thus, lets try to phostphone a turn or so the river, and have it slowly rise in water levels, while we make some sort of river bed dinging for it , for a turn or two...

    Then we need to Get ZIA or a part of it to be the best internal security and Counter intelligence in the world, or on par with the best.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:53 No.17782711

    Couple that with a policy of trying to keep the nanowar from happening- once we get our students in bed with NeoTekz, we will be the second best at nanotech at the moment - unless someone manages to catch up.

    so before going public, we need more Intel security, clearly defined nanotech commercialization ( a way to make sure the nanos are not sold, but rented... and even then properly black boxed to hell and back) and a serious leg up to at least understand what NeoTekz is doing, just in case someone manages to shut them down, and seize their work.

    Make no mistake, this here is like some neutral country in the South Americas managing to make nuclear energy before WW2. starting with the reactors, but everyone will see the potential and they are most likely screwed if they cannot play that card well , as well as secure it from all angles.
    >> Jim Profit 02/02/12(Thu)21:54 No.17782718
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:54 No.17782723
    Oh, I also had an idea on how to get more money, and possibly help our medical front.

    We legalise and regulate prostitution. Legal, properly run brothels, big crackdown on illegal prostitute, mandatory screenings for clients and providers (In brothel, I hear Thailand has 15 minute tests) This should help with STD control and provide a new revenue stream, and help all keep "content providers" from getting addicted to drugs to keep hooking.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)21:55 No.17782733
    You just gave me an idea. We should build a facility out in the Sahara to test WMDs. Give the Neotek guys as much hookers and blow as they need to give us something useful
    Here's the thing, if everyone gets the technology, then we go back to being some insignificant third world country. We need to press the advantage as long as possible to become relevant on the world stage.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:55 No.17782747
    Supporting these three.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)21:57 No.17782768

    this, this, and this
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)21:57 No.17782772

    Personally? This shit stays in house, only us and Neotekz run and deploy the systems, and generally only in Africa, or other hellholes that REALLY need help. If first-world nations want it, too bad, they have other tech and the money to work with it, we're too busy solving world hunger and uplifting our neighbours. While also developing aforementioned railguns, nano-built destroyers, lasers, and other goodies.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:01 No.17782808
    This. Except for the world hunger part. Starvation isn't caused by a lack of supply so much as incompetent governments. We fix the incompetent governments by crushing them with our nanotechnology.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 02/02/12(Thu)22:02 No.17782826
    WMDs? No, fuck that, we'll be on the 'To Invade' list of other superpowers. What I propose, instead, is to use the nanotech to further cybernetics technology. Hey, we're going to make a Section 9 worthy intel agency, why not make a Major Motoko Kusanagi while we're on it?
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:03 No.17782847
    What part of "in-house" or "guarded under penalty of death" do you not understand? It's almost as if you didn't want us to take over the world.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)22:05 No.17782861
    Sorry, had a discussion with cohabiting human being unit in this facility called "home"... forgot I needed to make a post here..post inbound again!
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:06 No.17782876

    That's why we unveil the AIDS cure. NOONE will want to fuck with the country that funded the cure for AIDs. Once we have that, we can bank on goodwill and our new revenue to modernise our army, and begin trials for our nano-fabbed fighters, and railguns, lasers, etc.

    Hell, we might even be able to develop battlesuits that can survive reentry.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:07 No.17782884
    This. With some bad luck one of them stumbled upon it already. Stepping up counter-intelligence right this fucking instant should have priority over pretty much anything else, especially over any programs that aim to weaponize the technology.
    After we have established somewhat decent security we can research whatever WMDs you guys want.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:08 No.17782893
    Do you know who else relied on international goodwill? Mohammed Mossadec, the Kennedys, the Sandanistas. Also, who's post got deleted?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:08 No.17782900
    Noone will OPENLY fuck with the country that cured AIDS. Their intelligence agencies will be crawling all over us, us having peaceful intentions or not.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:10 No.17782925

    I'm saying we bank on the goodwill to get discounts on purchasing civil and military stuff, like Thorium reactors, fighters, AWACS, cargo planes, ships, desal plants, agricultural gear.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:10 No.17782930

    You are naive, if you think they wont get samples and most likely NeoTekz research copies. they will get them

    Nano fabricators are too much of a game changer not to risk some serious black ops.

    France blew the Green Peace Flagship in a New Zeeland port just because they were going to stop a nuclear test. And the SF troops then were willing to go to jail for it. And they did. (minor Passport mistake)

    that is just for interfering. just how many untraceable groups of rebels, terrorist, extremists and freelancers do you think will be swarming about everywhere in our country and anywhere we go with such a technology?

    they will get it by hook or crook. and Somehow, if they are not the first or second to get it , they damned sure will be the next in line, human lives be damned.

    Thus we need to somehow be ale to rent the gear, while keeping tight control on it.
    Either through some serious corporate dickings, or through some politic alinaces.
    AU cannot keep it, unfortunately, since it's way to fractured between the powerblocks, and does not have a nuclear stick , nor the intel community needed to protect such a asset. I fear no one actually has. once you go open with it, everyone will have it in a year or less.

    What you can keep is the lead on research and pattern. make sure your nanos are the most advanced ,efficient and resilient. make sure you dominate the commercial markets, and all other national institutes are behind you at least two steps. this way, whenever they would weaponize it, you can either reverse it or outshine them, thus giving a hell of a incentive not even to bother.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:11 No.17782933
    It isn't worth it man. I'm with >>17782884
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:13 No.17782959

    I know they will. But by making it difficult for them to, and using specific, civilian-job only nanites, it'll be harder for them to get their nano-research to our levels. I'm saying we start our secondary weapons facility NOW, and get railguns, lasers, and nano-fabbed combat vehicle research started RIGHT AWAY, so we have a potentially insurmountable lead on whoever comes next. And yes, I know we'll have rebels funded by whoever, that's why I'm pushing buying up gear now, to expand our current forces.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:14 No.17782968
    >Crushing their incompetent governments.
    This is pretty key. Tensions with Liberia have been steadily heating up, and it's only logical that we use our military to free Cote d'Ivoire from them. However, we should wait until we have something big, like an AIDS cure our cheap method of producing mass-food until doing that.
    >Military Expansion
    I support this in full. We have 20% of the budget going to reserves, which we could direct to military purchases quite easily.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:16 No.17783004
    Hell, if we go public, whats gonna stop them from sending in their own people to "insure the safe-running of the project" , after all nanobots are dangerous, and a third-world country can't be trusted with them.
    They get to steal the research to start their own secret projects, and look like good guys trying to keep a grey-goo scenario at bay.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:17 No.17783007
    Security is our first priority. We can drag the research out for years as long as there's no external pressure rushing our decisions. Just quietly begin building military towns out in the Sahara and hiring laid-off KGB men.
    Meh. I would prefer homegrown technologies from this point onward. Fighter jets won't do shit against civil protests and coup attempts.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:20 No.17783039
    Security comes first. Anything should be secondary to this atm. Not that I am opposed to either a weapons programe or general military buildup. I am just extremely afraid of foreign intelligence in conjunction with our nanotechnology program.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:20 No.17783041

    Our police forces are decent enough, and we're well liked by our people. We need fast-movers because at it stands, we have 4 airframes capable of operating as SEAD, BVR, and AShW duties. We *need* to modernise and expand our military so that when the superpower funded rebels show up, we can just as quickly dump a few thousand pounds of high-explosive welcome on them.

    I do support homegown tech though, but only for our next-gen, nano-fabricated tanks, aircraft, and naval vessels. Until then, we keep acting like a normal country, buying from the establishment to keep suspicions off us.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:20 No.17783046
    Who the fuck even says we have total control over the Neotekz? Sure their HQ is based here, but an HQ can EASILY be relocated to another country that has a base in it.

    We don't have control over if they decide to get with another country, or unveil it to the world, they are an international corporation. They can and will go around us if they really want too.

    If anything we should be fucking grateful they decided to cue us in on the research from the ground up, and not just taking our money and showing us results.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:21 No.17783055
    Fair enough. New purchase list incoming.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:22 No.17783064
    Cure for AIDS should stop any overt attempts to get hands on our tech.

    A steep increase in counterintelligence and security can hopefully stop any covert attempts.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 02/02/12(Thu)22:22 No.17783067
    We will take over the world not by WMDs but by cowing them. They shall be dependant on us, and if they try to start anything they'll face the combined might of everybody else that's in alliance with us.
    But on the safe side, we update our military to first world levels, and have compulsory military service like S. Korea. Educate our citizens, and fund our own version of Section 9. Preferably with weapons grade cybernetics and hacking abilities.
    Which reminds me, we haven't got cyberwarfare capabilities yet, haven't we?
    >> Dintin 02/02/12(Thu)22:23 No.17783076
    An anon in this thread raises a very good point. We cannot sell our nanotech just yet. We must have one of the best trained militaries in the world. We can't give out all the secrets. We also need to find someway to install a kill switch. We will distribute it evenly to everybody, but we're the one with the black box to turn it all off. We also need to step it up with the ZIA. Well, actually OP, what is the assessment of our intelligence agency compared to the rest of the world?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:25 No.17783102

    Even if we do have some bullshit magic "kill button" for all the nanites that originated from OUR country and NeoTekz.

    It won't do jack shit for the nanites other countries will make, and they WILL make them. They may not understand the exact process at the start, but they WILL make their own nanites.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:25 No.17783107

    Their only remaining lab is here, they just got thrown out of the EU because they didn't like they set up shop here.

    We're also FUNDING THE SHIT OUT OF THEM, and IIRC have a small chunk of their stock. Ideally, we'll eventually make them a nationalized, but independent company, producing stuff for us, as well as doing their own thing, while still under our control.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:27 No.17783126
    This is going to cost a shitload, and I'm only spitballing here, but oh well.

    Air Craft:
    7 Sukkoi FGFT
    12 An-2 cargo planes
    Literally as many Hinds as we can buy

    Merchant Marine registration program
    2 or 3 Kilo 636
    Brahmos launching facilities

    Call H&K and ask about making a sample purchase of 15,000 XM8s, to go toward arming all of our newly conscripted soldiers. If not feasible, open an AR18 factory in a major industrial center. Try and get a hold of the XM25 Punisher for counter-insurgency work.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:27 No.17783137

    No, they got thrown out of Germany because they thought the company was just a clever ruse of Tax Evasion.
    >> APRIL 2017 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)22:29 No.17783155
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    -NeoTek river has been finished, they will slowly build it up over the coming month into a full river, letting it naturally form from stream to flowing torrent.

    -Education System Standards are now up to par with US-12th Grade, and 1st year college!

    -Military Gear (entire list) has been purchased using our reserves and spare funding. We still have enough for other purchases, but it did take a chunk from us...may or may not have "made" a little extra gold with NeoTekz (Being honest, did not feel like keeping up with every little purchase over multiple posts. Enjoy your new armed forces. The NeoTek way.)

    -Security has been trippled on NeoTek related projects. EX-KGB Guy promises us nothing will slip. ZIA so far has enough experience to prevent minor to medium leaks.

    -Liberia(IC) Rebels have killed Liberia's current leader! Her vice-executives have taken charge until a new leader can be appointed in proper. He has a very pro-US stance.

    -Our Icecream Industry has begun exporting to neighboring nations in bulk, bringing much needed currency to our economy!

    -Thorium Reactor 1 and 2 are now at 100% capacity, India has left them fully in our now capable hands.

    -Swa'sin City is 20% complete. It has been hailed to become one of the new wonders of the world when finished. NeoTekz plants to build the world's highest TV Antenna for us. Using nano carbon tubes to reach a height of 3,700 feet. It will become the tallest man made structure on the planet. It will be able to broadcast Zanzian TV to the majority of Africa!

    -World News North: A Flanker and F-18 have collided mid-air. Russia accuses US of intentionally ordering the pilot to fly dangerously to close. Both pilots dead.

    -Scotland has rejoined the UK under new agreements.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:30 No.17783168


    We have a procurement list already, here: >>17782672

    We're not changing it. Our current fighter is the Fulcrum. We can make parts and possibly even full airframes, as well as Fencers. We can't afford subs, much less surface vessels beyond PT boats.

    Just... Stop trying. We already know what we need and how to get it. And if you don't believe me, go read up that airstrike we did. It highlighted what we need and we already planned on how to get it.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:33 No.17783223
    I am with aviationfag on this.
    Also it seems with OP's newest post we just bought that original procurement list anway.

    Pretty happy about the stepped up counter-intelligence.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:34 No.17783238
    I'm not saying that's the new plan, these are just ideas. We really should get something to arm all the new conscripts with, though. Right now, main priority is getting a friendly regime put into power in Liberia without getting caught.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:35 No.17783249

    Sweet. Begin unit cohesion training for the 1st Zanzian Armored Battalion immediately, and have our Fulcrums, and Fishbeds begin practicing unit cohesion with wragames simulating SEAD, anti-shipping, convoy attack, and air-to-air, if necessary using pilot cadets and the fishbeds as Opfor.

    Unit breakdown should for the 1st Armored B'n should be:

    Tank Company - 16 T-90s, with 2 in reserve and as trainers.
    BTR Companies - 3 companies of Mechanised infantry
    BMP Company - A full company of infantry mounted in our BMP-2s. Make sure that they have Iglas and the stands for the AT-5s on the BMP turrets.
    HQ - Whatever spare armored vehicles we have, 2 batteries of mortars, our SPG battery, and our SA-11 and SA-22 batteries are attached here. They'll then be deployed to the line companies based upon need.

    For now, begin training our new forces with their new gear, and start building up liquid capital again so we can start building more civil projects. We now have one of the best armies in the region, training permitting.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 02/02/12(Thu)22:35 No.17783251
    Guys, guys! What if we teach basic cyberwarfare 101 in Xavier University? That way we can screen potential ZIA hacker agents.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:37 No.17783264
    I would prefer just funding computer science and having recruiters pick for brains. All of the juicy bits need to be in-house at the ZIA.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:37 No.17783268
    Excellent. Nice and steady.

    Glorious. I think to supplement this, we should invest in subsidised Adult Education courses for the Populace who had pre-us schooling.

    Awesome. Though now we should concentrate on rebuilding our reserves in the event of shit hitting the fan.

    Keep a close eye on this shit. A fanatic in charge could be bad news for everyone.

    >Icecream, thorium, Green city
    Good show.

    I'd like to support the prior "Legalized sex industry" suggestion, but as a component of a larger Sex-education/gender equality/personal health/etc. program. *Heavily* regulate it to avoid abuse.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:37 No.17783269
    Good, continue funding

    >Military Gear
    Only things left, I believe, are night vision equipment for all of our elite soldiers and for officers at the squad and platoon level, and an Ex-Spetsnaz trainer to train our elite soldiers.

    ZIA is keep up security around NeoTekz.

    Stay out of it.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:38 No.17783280

    We bought ALL of Israel's TAR-21s. And we aren't doing mandatory service... Yet.

    I'll agree on cyberwarfare 101. perhaps we should look into nano-fabbed supercomputers to allow for simply outpowering enemy hackers?

    GLQ, continue heavy funding for the university and education in general. The better educated we are, the more people we can throw into projects like our nanoweapon research, AIDS cures, doctors, and other stuff.
    >> Slushed 02/02/12(Thu)22:40 No.17783297
    If I remember right, we literally have more TAR-21s than we do soldiers. There's not much reason to go purchasing a whole new weapons system, especially when no one has agreed to a conscription program yet

    That bleeding edge jet will cost more than most of our airforce combined, and I can see any use at all for the cargo planes.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 02/02/12(Thu)22:41 No.17783308
    Agreed. Maybe have outside 'experts' (read: Russian and Chinese hackers) teach our students. A good cyberwarfare division is as good as any WMD.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:42 No.17783314
    Now that we have all the military we need for now step up education. A lot. We are already pretty good by african standards but a well educated populace (and the experts we can draw from it) is priceless.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:43 No.17783338
    Why aren't people suggesting getting an ex-SAS member WITH a Spetsnaz soldier training our military?

    The SAS for the efficiency and skill, the Spetsnaz for the killing instinct and loyalty.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:44 No.17783351


    Drills. Get our men familiar with the equipment.

    Also, if we don't have a draft yet, now's the time for it, I think.


    I believe this should be our top concern right now, until we can go public with cures, food, water, etc. What exactly we should do, well, I've got no idea there.


    Well, our increasingly educated workforce is not going to want to work in ice cream factories. Set up some sort of deal, sending our best and brightest into NeoTek, ZIA, and the medical fields.

    >World News

    Talk to the Russian ambassador in private. Ask if they really plan on starting a war here.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:44 No.17783352

    We already have home-grown SF made up of veterans and pathfinders mounted in our Hinds. We should expand them, though, so we can see about getting some ex-Spetsnaz and SAS trainers.

    Our SF should be a company level formation, IMO.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:44 No.17783353

    >Education system

    Fantastic! Isn't it better than what the United States currently has?


    Excellent work Ex-KGB guy. He should probably get some massive compensation once he retires.

    >Rebels in Liberia

    Holy crap, that's pretty big. Like US is going to start meddling on our regional status whenever it wants through it's puppet.

    >Ice cream
    Awesome, that's always good to hear. How about funding into a new area, such as manufactured goods/computers now that our ice cream industry is up and running?

    >Thorium reactors 100% capacity
    Perfect. We should thank India for all their help, and start exporting energy to neighboring countries for cash.

    >Zanzian TV
    That's great, our soft power applications for the rest of the continent continues to grow. Perhaps we should start funding a space program to take advantage of our countries intelligent populace?

    >World News
    This seems bad, since the US will use Libera as a cat's paw against us instead of attacking Russia for commupance. We need to be careful here.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:44 No.17783355
    Can we get our hands on a reliable ex-SAS operator? If so by all means do it.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 02/02/12(Thu)22:45 No.17783357
    Well we still have those merc in our employ, maybe its time we see if they'd become official citizens?

    They'd stopped several rebel attempts and been a big boon, they even have their own air elements as well
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:46 No.17783374
    I was under the impression that the TAR was fairly rare and expensive. At 4k apiece, I would still be looking for a replacement.
    Honestly, I wasn't expecting any of this to be happening in the near future. The cargo planes would be useful for counterinsurgency work (remote military bases, dangerous roads)
    I can agree with that, as much as I love military stuff, we need to concentrate on domestic affairs.
    The only problem with that is that not a lot of SAS go freelance. Blackwater has some Navy SEALs and Green Berets we could use.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:47 No.17783379
    >>17783351 here

    Oh, and also, we should probably try and get some Zanzian TV up. Some quality programming, news, etc. Once that TV tower's up, we'll have quite the audience to preach to.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:47 No.17783382

    They're mercenaries, and a corporation, not the kind you can turn into a house unit. They do do good work, though. They're probably pleased with the steady paycheck and non-strenuous work. We should see about keeping them away from our labs, though, as we don't have the ability to vet them as easily as our own forces.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:47 No.17783385

    Our veteran soldiers are fucking worthless compared to a shitty SAS, and will break easily compared to a Spetsnaz. If we can get them trained by BOTH of these forces then we will have the best elite soldiers in the world.

    In fact, aren't the SAS basically the "Blueprint" that nearly ALL of the Special Forces in the world followed? Including the Spetsnaz? Except with more emphasis on physical endurance and bloody intent?
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:48 No.17783398

    They're UN vets, yeah, but we've been working them hard as helicopter infantry, and they were also in the SCUD operation. They're not top-tier, but they are for the area.
    >> Slushed 02/02/12(Thu)22:49 No.17783410
    Everything seems to be going smoothly,

    Perhaps we could look into providing a better TV service, expanding to a few more networks besides BBC, and attract some producers to create some original programming. Something other than Black Superman cop dramas
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:50 No.17783427

    Andy McNab?

    He needs a break from writing shitty novels anyway.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:51 No.17783438
    Why do we even need the SAS? Who knows what loyalties may remain to the UK. Just stick with ex-Spetsnaz.
    >> nanosugestionist 02/02/12(Thu)22:51 No.17783444

    A few Kilo Attack subs could be nice. enough to keep some of the snooping subs that had that nasty habit of getting to close a bit further away.

    And if we do national conscription we should perhaps do a youth training program in the summer or winter vacation (i have no idea what africa has) Nothing obviously military, but basic wilderness survival, group problems, like rescuing a wounded man from animals, how to efficiently call for medivac or transport a wounded person to a hospital, basic Marksmanship, how to buidld basic traps and snares, basic first aid, basic wrestling and boxing... etc.

    even if you dont go for full conscription, you have a recruit pool that has a few of the basics, and in case of a foreign incursion have serious skills to make a very annoying resistance.

    Plus it promotes a more national identity, since the state makes sure you know how to handle yourself.

    Kinda like the youth Scouts, just a bit more pragmatic , and a few more aggressive skills.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:52 No.17783463
    Hmmm. Maybe we could set up some government owned TV stations. Always loyal to us, professional and sophisticated.
    If we do recruit Special Forces, it will be in a consulting role. They're worth more as teachers than soldiers
    We can't really expand the military now, much as I hate to say it.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:54 No.17783493

    Too many problems with "child soldier" calls from other nations, this is Africa after all. We have an all volunteer army, and we should aim to keep it that way.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:54 No.17783502

    The SAS are objectively -the- best Special Forces in the world, last time I checked they endured the same physical screening and tests as the US Navy Seals on top of being trained by the British MI5 and MI6 agencies.

    You don't get more elite than that bro, the only thing the Spetsnaz "really" top them in is physical endurance and resourcefulness.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:55 No.17783512
    >And if we do national conscription we should perhaps do a youth training program in the summer or winter vacation (i have no idea what africa has) Nothing obviously military, but basic wilderness survival, group problems, like rescuing a wounded man from animals, how to efficiently call for medivac or transport a wounded person to a hospital, basic Marksmanship, how to buidld basic traps and snares, basic first aid, basic wrestling and boxing... etc.

    Holy shit there's an idea, if we incorporate shit from the tribals and "traditional culture", not only do we get the people with practical skills, but all the soppy 'we-love-culture- wankers around the world will be praising us for 'working so hard to preserve Pre-colonial African traditions' and all that bullshit. More international good press.

    Let's just not call it 'Xavier Youth', just to be safe, though.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:55 No.17783513
    Not to start a flame war, but the SAD and Delta would like a word with you.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:56 No.17783528

    SAD and Delta can go back to circlejerking over how great they think they are, frankly.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:57 No.17783537

    Don't forget JTF2.

    Because they're the only ones that get to go with tier-one USSOCOM units into the sandbox.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)22:57 No.17783545
    I was thinking about starting a space program for our country, such as launching satellites or something along those lines but it might be a bit too expensive.

    We should work on the prestige of our universities by inviting well known scientist, theorists, and intellectuals to give speeches and we should tempt them to work in Zanzia by providing generous grants for their research. We could be the new Athens of the modern world.
    >> Slushed 02/02/12(Thu)22:58 No.17783550
    Xavier's Survival School for Gifted Youngsters
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)22:58 No.17783556
    Honestly, all of these forces have managed to extract every bit of effort you can get from a human being. The only difference is role.
    I was planning on waiting until we could build a space elevator.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)22:59 No.17783569

    Space program comes AFTER we have railguns. We simply build VERY large railgun capable of launching stuff into orbit, thereby giving cheap lift capacity, and we can rent it out to other people (Make DAMN sure it can't be used a weapon or every nation on the planet will dogpile us for building a doomsday weapon.

    Or, we get neotekz to build a Space Elevator.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/02/12(Thu)23:00 No.17783586
    Problem with a railgun is that the G-forces will liquefy any living being. Cargo only.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:02 No.17783601

    Well obviously we make Robots.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)23:04 No.17783625

    Yes, that's the point. We don't NEED a manned program until we can build space habitats. We use our rail-launcher to get stuff into orbit to build the terminus of our space elevator, then build it and an orbital habitat to house our new zero-g labs, and a small community
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:05 No.17783631

    How about robotic exoskeletons for our military?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:05 No.17783634
    If you make a railgun or coilgun long enough you can reduce the acceleration while still achieving escape velocity. However, this will obviously make it require more space.

    If the space was available, a launch loop might also be a possibility.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:05 No.17783636

    Guys, space travel is cool and all, but aside from the prestige purposes, what's the point?

    Until we're a real power, there's no reason to spend money that could be spent here on earth.
    >> nanosugestionist 02/02/12(Thu)23:06 No.17783651
    All SF are so self absorbed they think themselves The BEST.

    Lets not even bring in their fans into the discussion.

    for SF, getting some Russian airborne or naval infantry trainers or spetsnatz might be something to consider. but that is more in the line of what the fuck do we want them to do?
    fuck up any simliar strength advance with guerilla and SF shite and be ready to die like flies in achieving that objective? Spetnatz
    the Russian Oorah! Marine Jarhead Analogue? Russian Airborne.
    Psychotic distraction and beach head creators ? russian naval infantry.

    because frankly only form Russia will we get that kind of support.

    and neither fit with what we have here. a ultra mobile elite infantry force that can keep up with the Airsupport and benefit from the incoming ary support to seize positions and objectives for the rest of the army.

    I suggest we develop our own military structures, and decide what we want to do with each.

    Although some SF for some CT and COIN would be nice. just in case someone decides its a nice idea to do a 'Terrorist' attack on the NeoTekz HQ
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:09 No.17783672
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    O hai.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:09 No.17783680

    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)23:09 No.17783685

    Asteroid mining, colonization of the moon and mars, etc.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:10 No.17783686
    Out of curiosity, guys, what do you do to keep yourselves occupied in between Grand Leader's posts?

    I just watched the whole STALKER movie, myself.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:10 No.17783691
    I agree the Russians are our best bet.
    But I would suggest dividing the SF into regular SF for conventional war and Counter Terrorism just to be safe.
    >> nanosugestionist 02/02/12(Thu)23:11 No.17783702
    what i mean here , is that we have derp striking vets with valkyre and vendetta support, taking out deathsrike launchers and whirlwinds, for our chimera shock troops.

    or ensuring they (chimer troopers/army)get to flank the enemy when they all deploy out of reserves,
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:11 No.17783704
    Other threads and other quests.
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)23:12 No.17783719

    Planning. I have lots of ideas, generally military, but also civil programs to help ensure we keep getting recruits.

    I'd like us to start up some organisations to ensure our Enlisted and Officers getting out have a support net to ensure that they can find jobs, or go to college, or get help for mental problems. We should also ensure that the reups are people who WANT to be in the military, and ensure that shitbirds get canned instead of good soldiers.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:15 No.17783758

    Oh. Gods. Yes.

    Please. I want to keep trolling the fuck out of the world with Pop culture references.
    >> Dintin 02/02/12(Thu)23:21 No.17783827
    I mostly stay busy by studying, or doing homework. Sometimes break out Vic II and see if I can find anything applicable to the quest.
    >> MAY 2017 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)23:22 No.17783831
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    -EX-KGB guy points out an alternative use to the new tower... that could be used to control Nanites from great distances, or even a network of them to make an even larger box.

    -Military divisions and training has begun. PMC says they will gladly share their experience - some of them are ex-military for even SEALs....but of course, still not the upper-cuts.

    -A few TV studios have been formed in anticipation of major broadcast from this tower.

    -TV Sales are up greatly, while few channels are available outside of Liberty, there is plenty of excitement about this new broadcast tower.

    -EX-KGB guy says he could get us some Spetnaz through a contact...but it might mean some deals with Russia.

    -Ex-US-Senator says that the US has changed greatly since he was in position. Liberia is indeed one of the major US allies in the region. Though current events are keeping their attention elsewhere.

    -Russia says they have no intent for war, simply keeping the territories they claim safe... US however is clearly wanting war over this. Afterall, they came to Russian waters. (RL Russia claims the fuck out of the pole, for anyone not keeping up with events.)

    -NeoTekz's river is making steady progress and is breaking the Drought ever so slowly.
    >> nanosugestionist 02/02/12(Thu)23:26 No.17783896
    Regarding civil projects.

    now that we have some acceptable basic infrastructure ,maybe we should see about recruiting specialists on the job markets.

    Until ours are ready a steady influx of already experienced proffesionals having started the domain with their own institurional meory is what we need.

    What i propose is that we actively try to encourage eastern european emigrants like under-engineers, technicians, pharmacist, etc. perhaps even the odd doctor or engineer to come for a few years in afrcia.

    With good salaries on specialists jobs (that we desperately need and wont be able to meet our own demand for quite some time with only one university) they will realise that while not the same monetary value as a western European revenue, a Zanzian Doctor/pharmacist/technician/engineer salary will allow them a very comfortable life and even the opportunity to buy land and build a house in the city periphery and support a transplanted family.
    If we get the ball rolling we will get a lot of connections with Eastern Europe and a good degree of influence on the EU council, not to mention specialists that will improve tremendously our education , infrastructure and healthcare.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:27 No.17783910

    I was thinking. Could we have a airborne nanite 'shield' orbiting our country, that could coalesce whenever missiles are fired and intercept missiles being thrown at us?
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)23:28 No.17783925

    Continue unit cohesion drills, and introduce joint land-air exercises.

    Find out what the Russians want for Spetsnaz trainers.

    Would altering the tower to include nanite control functionality alter its construction? If not, allow the functionality, but ONLY a dedicated console from our secondary weapons research lab (We should set it up as a secondary Neotekz facility working on unrelated nano-projects.)
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:28 No.17783939

    Nowhere near that level yet, frankly. Decades away at best.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:28 No.17783940

    >KGB-guy's finding

    Watch NeoTekz turn out to be James Bond villains.


    Do it. Sooner we can stop using the PMC, the better
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:29 No.17783949
    Square cube law says : NO!
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:34 No.17784008
    Can we try to start peace talks with Russia and the U.S. BEFORE shit hits the fan, I don't want Zanzia pulled into ww3
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:35 No.17784016

    Watch them on that. I hope they don't backstab us.

    >PMC military training
    Offer a renegotiated contract to include training services, to train our regular Army and increase their individual effectiveness.

    >Spetsnaz trainer
    Find out what kind of deals would need to be made.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:38 No.17784044
    Can you tell us exactly how well-trained our troops are? Like what forces are they similar to in training and combat effectiveness?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:40 No.17784070
    What about we get some police robots for the green city? Robots can't be bribed after all.
    >> skifag 02/02/12(Thu)23:46 No.17784146
    we should set up a physics center in one of our towns, i have one in my town [aspen] and it allows for all sorts of scientists from all over to come and talk about all the new science things, this can allow our own homegrown scientists to make friends, get contacts and generally get in with the crowd. this or just send the best to places like that.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/02/12(Thu)23:46 No.17784150
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    New post in a few minutes, but will give this bump a chance for a little more input.

    Also, breaking your action input with > or - makes my life easier to distinguish small talk from primary actions.
    >> skifag 02/02/12(Thu)23:47 No.17784159
    but the can sure as hell be hacked or courupted in one way or another
    >> Aviationfag 02/02/12(Thu)23:51 No.17784224

    - Continue unit training on a battalion level, introduce join land-air exercises.

    - See about Spetsnaz trainers, but make no promises.

    - Would the planned tower need to be altered to allow for nanite-control functionality?

    If the tower works for nanite-control, we could INSTANTLY fortify our country with prepared positions, secondary airfields, completel with munitions stores, hell, even new, spare machines, if we needed to.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:56 No.17784285
    We could always install a black box/encryption key system in there.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:00 No.17784334
    How are we going to hide that new river Neotek just built? I mean rivers don't build themselves and the excuse a wizard did it isn't going to work.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)00:03 No.17784391

    We're going with the "blasting out a mountain resevoir" thing.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:04 No.17784399
    an underground aquafir was found and released to break the drought
    >> JUNE 2017 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)00:21 No.17784630
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    -ZIA security and miltiary security at NeoTekz is increased both for their safety and ours.

    -UN has questions about our weapons development, if we have any at all.

    -Locals have requested a "praise the president" day for the nation, or something of the sort, to show their gratitude for us.

    -The rebel forces have come out of the jungle to surrender it seems...

    -An American Cargo ship is coming to port after extensive damage at sea from a storm. They have requested docking permission for repairs.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:26 No.17784689
    >ZIA security and miltiary security at NeoTekz is increased both for their safety and ours.
    good, good

    >UN has questions about our weapons development, if we have any at all.
    Do we even have any weapons developement?

    >Locals have requested a "praise the president" day for the nation, or something of the sort, to show their gratitude for us.
    national holiday on our behalf? and initiated by popular request? can't be bad, pursue this idea.

    >The rebel forces have come out of the jungle to surrender it seems...
    let's treat this with caution nevertheless

    >An American Cargo ship is coming to port after extensive damage at sea from a storm. They have requested docking permission for repairs.
    Any information as to cargo, destination, origin, crew, etc from the coastguard?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:27 No.17784706
    >Praise the president day
    No, it makes the president look like a megalomaniac.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)00:28 No.17784712

    Escort it in with a PT boat, active sonar, looking for potential SF insertion. Watch that thing like a hawk.

    We have no weapons research at this time (The ammunition box isn't a weapons technology, is it? If it is, let them know we have a logistics train technology in development for our jungle units and potential army-wide deployment, as a way to increase operations tempo by allowing for less frequent resupply, let them know its an emerging tech that's still a state secret)
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:29 No.17784730
    -accept the proposal for president Xavier day
    -Accept all rebel surrenders
    -Let the ship dock, try to peek in to the cargo
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:29 No.17784731
    Agreed. I say we grant a holiday but more to celebrate the nation/citizens of the nation.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:30 No.17784734

    >ZIA Security
    Good. Keep it up.

    >UN Weapons Inspections
    The only development we've done is maybe repairing and maintaining the SCUD launchers and their conventional warheads. The UN is welcome to inspect them to make sure that they're only conventional.

    >Praise the President
    Allow the people to have their holiday.

    They will be treated as we promised. They will be fed, housed, and clothed while they are debriefed.

    >Cargo Ship
    Grant the ship permission to dock and repair itself. But have it escorted by a PT boat.
    >> skifag 02/03/12(Fri)00:32 No.17784770
    >ZIA security and miltiary security at NeoTekz is increased both for their safety and ours.

    >UN has questions about our weapons development, if we have any at all.
    show them our ideas for a rock based mass driver.[aka bull shit it]

    >Locals have requested a "praise the president" day for the nation, or something of the sort, to show their gratitude for us.
    Thank them grasiously and consider it, maybe put a poll out ask the people what they want their new holiday to be include a wide swath of publicy things like workers rights day and stuff.

    >The rebel forces have come out of the jungle to surrender it seems...

    treat them with a cautioned kindness, ask them to surrender their weapons and go through a screening process
    >An American Cargo ship is coming to port after extensive damage at sea from a storm. They have requested docking permission for repairs.
    welcome them with ice-cream!
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)00:34 No.17784801


    - Ask the UN what manner of weapons development they mean? We haven't really been researching anything, but they are welcome to inspect our SCUDs, its not like we'll be using them.

    - DO NOT peek at the cargo. Inspect the ship and offer assistance with repairs, but don't try to force anything. We should inspect it for hazmat purposes, though, let the crew know that.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:35 No.17784814
    This guy that agrees with me knows what's up. A holiday celebrating our people/our country/the revolution will be much received much better by the international community.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:37 No.17784837
    Zanzia Day?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:39 No.17784865
    Thats my post,
    -Agree with others on the holiday thing
    -use a PT boat to help the ship in and make sure no one follows us in, or that the ship has harmful materials in there
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:43 No.17784915

    >UN questions

    I don't think we have any, do we?


    As long as it's about Zanzia, and not us, sure, do it.


    Ask KGB guy first. If they really seem to be surrendering, meet them with our army in full badass mode, and accept their surrender. The leaders will need to be punished at least a little, but the average soldiers could probably be re-integrated


    Any info about it? If there's nothing dangerous, let them dock. Have ZIA watch the ship once it's in port, though. Can't have CIA agents getting off.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:46 No.17784946
    Couldn't we use the nano machines to flood a country (Liberia for example) with free gold and severely damage their economy? Inflation can do more damage then bombs in the right circumstances.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 02/03/12(Fri)00:47 No.17784954
    Zanzia day? More like Ice Cream and Vuvuzela day!

    Now for the suggestions:
    -Free Action: start a cyberwarfare 101 course at Xavier uni, or train our ZIA agents in the art of hacking. If possible, recruit foreign ally hackers (whitehats from Russia and China, perhaps). Initially, we teach the students the importance of cyber defense. If there are any smart ones, have the ZIA approach them to recruit them.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:53 No.17785038
    Problem is that our nanotechnology come out of the box then.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)00:56 No.17785065
    not praise the predsiddent, Zanzia day is much better. a day dedicated to the people who serve the great nation of zanzia. and who serves more than the man who has pledged his life to the start than President for Life Xavier
    >> JULY 2017 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)00:57 No.17785074
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    -The poll to find out what other days people may want that does not make you look like a meglomaniac are as follows in greatested order of 3. "People's Republic Day" "Workers Day of Rest" "Vuvuzela Day"

    -The American Ship "USS Beryola" has docked and is taking on supplies and repairs. Almost all of it's cargo is gray and blue containers. It is destined for South Africa.

    -UN is wanting to know about any possible weapon systems you may be developing so that it may review them in kind.

    -Desalination Plant #2 is done!

    -University is finished!

    -Rebel intelligence has lead us to two of their abandoned camps. We have yet to send a ground team in to investigate.

    -World News: Reports of a minor skirmish that has erupted between the NATO and Russia Federation fleets at the north pole. Unknown ship losses at this time. No major news outlets have confirmed this yet, only online sources and shaky video.

    -Liberia is demanding aid to fix the Ivory Coast. They say this is partly our fault.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)01:00 No.17785117

    >Holiday name

    Workers' Day of Rest


    ZIA's watching that shit.


    We don't have any (unless we do have some, but I don't think so)


    Offer food. They'll be drowning in sandbread.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)01:00 No.17785120
    Yeah, you've got a good point there, we've got other ways to fuck with Liberia if we need to.
    >> skifag 02/03/12(Fri)01:02 No.17785140
    oh man! russia is gonna get Curb-stomped at sea!

    offer the crew of the cargo ship icecream discounts,

    implement said days evenly throughout the year, the Rest day should be soon to show we respect and are thankful for our wonderful workforce.

    keep asking the rebels question and see what would be the best way to reintegrate them into our nation.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)01:03 No.17785143
    >Offer food. They'll be drowning in sandbread.
    Like this, that's a really good idea.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)01:05 No.17785159
    >Blue and grey containers

    Ahhh the curiosity, it burns

    Think of some reason to get a look in those containers.

    Err new policy, this ship had been selected for a random inspection, part of a new policy to precent weapons from being funnled to the rebels, we apologise for the inconveniance and realise how silly this is but regulations aare regulations.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)01:06 No.17785169
    Development, no. Our licensed manufacture of Aircraft parts is a matter of public record, I believe. Tell them we're not developing anything new at this time, but if we do, it'll likely derive from that pre-existing manufacturing base. That should shut them up.

    Speaking of Development:
    IIRC, we were having a nice good discussion on ammo calibers and such and standardisation. IIRC we had the Dragunov as the odd man out for ammo. Why not develop our own HMG using the Dragunov's round as perhaps a limited test of our engineering and manufacturing capabilities? Like an MG3/MG42 clone that uses Dragunov ammo for interchangeability.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)01:07 No.17785176

    -People's Republic Day

    -Invite prominent scientists to speak at our University to draw attention.

    -Have the ZIA watch the ship for anything serious.

    -Investigate the camps, see if any intel can be gathered from them

    How should we deal with the UN? It might demand to see the NeoTekz labs, and the cat might be let out of the bag.

    Also, is anyone getting a vibe that the US is pressuring the UN to do this? I get the feeling that Liberia/US are fishing for anything to go to war with us.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)01:07 No.17785177
    We kill our enemies with kindness?
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)01:08 No.17785193

    - Liberia can demand all they want, but they decided to up and annex the country. Still, see about helping out IC, but independently.

    - Inform the UN we have no weapons in development at this time. (But still, get started building the second Neotekz weapons/sensitive research lab)

    - Start putting capital towards large, well funded and staffed technical schools in ALL of our cities. Ensure that they have all the programs we need and the ability to transfer students to better programs elsewhere.

    - Before sending in infantry to the camps, have our Frogfeet make low-level passes with 360-degree cameras, with Fulcrums and Fencers running a low-level racetrack armed with HARMs, rocket pods, and iron bombs. Have 4 Fulcrums running full air-to-air, everyone else gets point-defense.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)01:08 No.17785196
    Better to liscence or copy a tried and true foreign design than homegrwoing one
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)01:09 No.17785208

    SVD shares ammo with our PKM GPMGs (They get deployed in weapons platoons to complement our team-level Negevs.), we also have x54R in our vehicles coax.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)01:10 No.17785219

    We are, we're referring to developing first-gen railgun tanks, DDGs with laser and railgun based systems, and aircraft laser systems to replace guns.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)01:11 No.17785225
    It's a great troll, "Oh Liberia, your ally needs aid? And you can't provide for them? No need to fear, we're here!"

    >Holiday name
    People's Republic Day.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)01:13 No.17785241
    Oh my bad I thought you were on about GPMGs

    Can we nanotech Super-Capacitors into being? We need to research these, they are a vital first step to railguns/pulse lasers. Plus we can say they are for civie purposes
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)01:16 No.17785268

    We've been over this. Neotekz builds its nuke-proof facility, begins research of room-temp superconductors and high-efficiency capacitors. Once we have that, we can nano-fab the laser architecture into being, and mount into a Fulcrum. We can also use it as a baseline for a home-grown SPAAG based on the Pantsir system.
    >> nanosugestionsist Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)01:23 No.17785330
    we could tag it with something if we had surveillance nanos.

    the UN has no jurisdiction over weapons development. Some of its subdivisions do however sometimes monitor Nuclear materials and BioChemical wepons research - a thing mostly used to design countermeasures, nowadays.

    save from that the UN has no special jurisdiction in weapons R&D. Someone is pushing something behind the scenes. we need to know what the fuck is going on on the political scene.

    Perhaps the ex US senator has some contacts he could find out. for a nice summer retreat like the ex KGB guy.

    >Ivory Coast.

    we could go in with humanitarian aid.
    Perhaps a bit of blue helmets, just to supervise proper food and water distribution?
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)01:34 No.17785461

    True, but we DON'T have weapons research, either way. The ammo box isn't a weapons technology, its a logistics multiplier. now, what we PLAN to do is weapons research, but that hasn't started yet (We should get on it ASAP. We might also want to look into having our UAC plant start slowly rolling out Fencer and Fulcrum airframes for our personal use in addition to parts, if necessary have parts for assembly nanofabbed, its time we started building our own airframes)
    >> JULY 2017 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)01:35 No.17785473
    New post coming, then I sleep.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)01:38 No.17785495
    >Ivory Coast
    Agree to help them, After all The Republic of Zanzi will do it best to help it's needy neighbor. Then invite BBC and other news agencies do a story about it.
    >> nanosugestionsist 02/03/12(Fri)01:47 No.17785578
    Yes! of course!

    Africa policing itself!

    Also invite BBC o create a African subwing of BBC, to broadcast from the Zanzitower!
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)02:06 No.17785730
    Did OP fall asleep?
    >> AUGUST 2017 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)02:17 No.17785827
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    -Holiday name has been chosen as "People's Republic Day"

    -Food has been sent to Liberia to help the needy. They, genuinely surprised, thank you.

    -BBC has been invited- and accepted- setting up a sub-wing in our green city when the tower is active. They also have sent crews out to film the construction of the city.

    -UN acknowledges your statement about weapons and has moved on.

    -NeoTekz has requested a representative be a part of the government. Not to make decisions but to hear and be ready to offer available options.

    -NeoTekz has solved the AIDs problem. It awaits your opinion as to what to do with it - as per the original agreement.

    -Construction of technical and educational centers in all major cities has begun, several specialists spreading out to those cities to begin teaching in rented offices.

    -Camps seem entirely abandoned. No attacks so far in the low-flies.

    -Wild Fire 2 has been stopped.

    -ZIA has found out the ship is carrying Patriot Missile Systems, and several boxed American Equipment. Technically as they did not declare armaments on board we COULD theoretically seize the vessel. There is a skeleton crew of escorts on-board at best, 30 marines. Who were also not declared and are in plain clothes. They have not left the ship.
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    -World News: Reports of the skirmish in the north pole have been GREATLY exaggerated. Some over the bow firing occurred between ships, but both navies have backed off after coming to a resolution in the UN. Russia will remove itself from the region as will the US until a decision on what to do with the North Pole has been decided. Other nations have interest here too. With the temporary loss of Russia's northern oil possibilities and the loss of Iran's production capabilities at this time, 40% of Russian oil comes from Zanzia (us).

    With that, I shall sleep... and leave you all with the debate of what Russia being dependent-ish on you means for your future, amongst the other topics.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)02:21 No.17785851
    Arrest the crew for smuggling weapons into zanzia and turn them over to America, keeping the weapons of course.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 02/03/12(Fri)02:22 No.17785863
    Then, we shall work on the nano boxes next use.
    Instead of glittering gold
    We pump out that black gold.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)02:22 No.17785864
    We need to expand our refineries pronto. Before there was talk of being Russia's Israel, but we need to be Russia's Saudi Arabia.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)02:24 No.17785887
    I thought we wanted to keep the nano stuff a secret?
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)02:26 No.17785906

    - Politely ask the crew why they're smuggling weapons, and where they are headed. Inform that we won't seize it, unless its heading to a potential enemy. We just want to know.

    -Go public with a joint venture statement with Neotekz about the AIDS cure. Sell it at minimal profit to EVERYONE, Africa first.

    - Accept the Neotekz rep, inform that this cuts both ways, though, they're now a part of a Zanzi government if they accept.

    - Send in an Infantry Battalion to secure the camps with on-call air support and SEAD aircraft loitering. Have our armor on standby and our AWACS in the air.

    - FREE ACTION: Have Neotekz begin construction of a second, nuke-proof, high security nao research lab for the development of nano-assembled laser systems, nano-assembled and repaired railguns, and nano-fabrication of war materiel. Keep it hush-hush and only have trust personnel work on it. Better to have slow and steady, but secure results than have someone knocking on the door about our Fulcrum Laser project.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 02/03/12(Fri)02:27 No.17785912
    and whose to say we can just slap an oil rig over the box?
    >> skifag 02/03/12(Fri)02:30 No.17785938
    keep a close gaurd on them see what they are up to. they are headed to south africa right?

    ... this is an iffy subject if this stuff was intended for the rebles why would they even think of gettign help cause there would be almost no way we would not check it.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)02:31 No.17785953

    Africa's a shithole, who knows where its going. That's why we ask. We keep the evidence, record it, and if it pops up AFTER we have the US saying "Hey, this ain't goin near you." and it does, we have a very big blow to deal to their image. They know this, and therefore will either tell the truth, giving us US tech, or lie, meaning we can potentially alienate a lot of the world even more from them.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)02:31 No.17785954
    I guess, but if we did that couldn't we just get oil the old fashioned way?
    >> skifag 02/03/12(Fri)02:34 No.17785973
    why not have both? double output

    I have a feeling you are jonesing to bring america to i's knees, or is it only in game context?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)02:38 No.17786012
    >Neotekz representative
    Accept, with restrictions. We don't want unwarranted influence.
    EXCELLENT. Prepare an announcement and begin a national program for distributing the cure. We'll formally announce it when we want to draw attention away from something. Almost any belligerent action would be pretty much ignored if done immediately before announcing having cured AIDS.
    Continue investigation
    >American Ship
    I say seize all dangerous materials and impound them, sending the ship on its way. Ensure that all crewmembers are on the ship and remain on the ship.
    >North Pole issue
    Send an expedition to the North Pole to claim a little bit of land in the name of all of Africa. Support a UN-dominated North Pole to peacefully limit American ambition.
    Personally I believe that we stand to move upwards on the international scene through increased involvement in the UN, AU, and the global economy. We can keep close ties with Russia without being a puppet.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 02/03/12(Fri)02:41 No.17786046
    Why don't we slap the box on an existing oil rig? Make it produce oil from the refuse/detritus/leftover of the normal oil operations. Boom shakalaka, say we've hit a big pocket of oil!
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)02:42 No.17786049
    By the way, we should work on getting some satellites into space. GPS systems are fucking great for warfare.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 02/03/12(Fri)02:43 No.17786062
    That's even better!
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)02:43 No.17786064
    That could work I suppose. Personally, I would prefer to start with food or water. It would give us a great deal of political capital, in two ways: Everyone needs to eat, if we sell cheap food to people in a rough spot, they'll remember. It will also make us appear benevolent, people will say: "The president of Zanzi is a cool guy." Which will make claims like we're funding rebels in Liberia look silly. Just a thought.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)02:46 No.17786102
    Where are we going to get the money for that? Everyone's talking about making the AIDS cure cheap, and you can't run a space program on just oil money.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)02:51 No.17786147

    Who says we need money? Just nanofab it and launch it into orbit with our rail-launcher spaceport.

    As for America, I'm not saying we should do it just to fuck them. they ARE smuggling weapons. I'm simply trying to figure out which is worse, impounding the cargo under violations of maritime law, or letting it go if it doesn't affect us. We'll need to decide quick. And IF we decide to impound it, we'll do it right. Armed troops, some Hinds, maybe a Havoc. I recommend asking our intelligence agency, military commanders, and civil ministers.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)02:51 No.17786150
    Nanotechnology should make it somewhat less expensive, and I'm really talking about having a satellite within 2 years. We should begin basic space program stuff now, so that when we can invest heavily into it the framework is already there (ie, a base, control headquarters, scientists).
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)02:56 No.17786194
    Not to be an asshole or anything, but aren't people going to think it's odd when a African country, which can't even afford a proper weapons R&D program, starts launching shit into space? This is assuming we want to keep the Nano Machines secret though. If we don't then, full steam ahead!
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)03:00 No.17786230

    We're about to announce our, with the help of our soon-to-be national nanotech corporation, have just cured AIDS. We can segue into looking into solving problems with orbital lift capacity using nano-repaired mag-catapults capable of putting satellites into orbit. (With international inspections of the payloads, to ensure that noone thinks s we're putting Rods From God into orbit). For now, our weapons research should be secret, prioritizing security over results, focusing solely on a laser system suitable for aircraft and ABM duty, using nanofabricated room-temp superconductors and capacitors.

    After that, we can begin designing a nanofabbed frigate armed with laser CIWS and a large anti-ship laser cannon, and then move onto combat-railguns for tanks and ships.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)03:07 No.17786279
    Alright, I wasn't sure when we were going to let the cat out of the bag. I still say we should start with making food and water. But the stuff you're talking about will take some serious R&D time, so there's no reason we can't do both.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)03:09 No.17786300
    >-Food has been sent to Liberia to help the needy. >They, genuinely surprised, thank you.
    Let's keep warming relation with them. Offer to send some of our people that have experience uplifting our nation to help them. Or/and if they want we can send some of our soldier as peacekeeper.

    >-NeoTekz has requested a representative be a part of >the government. Not to make decisions but to hear >and be ready to offer available options.
    Tell them if their a part of the governmant they can have a representative, Or if we own them. If no they can have a unofficial representative.

    >-NeoTekz has solved the AIDs problem. It awaits >your opinion as to what to do with it - as per the >original agreement.
    Well need more infomation then this. How much does each dose cost? How fast can they make them? How many can they make at a time? Can our nano-tech be copied form them? As a vague plan we should build up million of dose. Then get in contact with The World Health Organization, And tell them "Our research has payed off and we have a cure for a major disease, But we need help getting it out to people. Can they help us?" This will help us not get zerg rush when we tell every one we have a cure for AIDS.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)03:10 No.17786313
    >-Camps seem entirely abandoned. No attacks so far >in the low-flies.
    Send some troop to check them out, and any supply caches the ex-rebels know about.

    >-ZIA has found out the ship is carrying Patriot Missile >Systems, and several boxed American Equipment. >Technically as they did not declare armaments on >board we COULD theoretically seize the vessel. >There is a skeleton crew of escorts on-board at best, >30 marines. Who were also not declared and are in >plain clothes. They have not left the ship.
    I say we give them a huge ass fine for all the laws they just broke, Then tell then next time just declare it/put it in the ship manifests. Or we well treat them as gun runner next time.

    I think were Russia's friend The Republic of Zanzi, And a friendly nations with close ties.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)03:13 No.17786339

    Railgun and Laser architecture is a well-known field, the hardest thing is creating the superconductors and capacitors, once that's done, its as simple as nanofabbing a system that can emit enough power and is robust enough to handle combat, and railguns are simpler, simply needing to figure out how to get the nanites to repair the rails fast enough to allow for a rate of fire of at least 15-25 rounds per minute for the naval system, and at least 30 for the tank system.

    Hell, the railguns might be combat-ready before the lasers. We want the lasers first, though, because that will allow us to claim the skies, making any first-world invasion of us EXTREMELY difficult, as air-power is a big part of their strategies.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)03:14 No.17786342
    On the international scene there are no "friends" only interests. And it's in our interests to get Russia as dependent on us as possible.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)03:17 No.17786370
    Yeah, I agree we'll be able to figure it out before long. I'm just saying we can make food and water right away, and it's something that will make us good. We should start weapons research right away though.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)03:19 No.17786389
    Unrelated to my plans for our future military, I had an idea for how to make more money off the nanites.

    If we have a stretch of coast near some mountains, I suggest we create a combo beach/ski resort, showcasing our nation's technology(If we go public with our terraforming nanites), if not, still, look into some government subsidies for tourism. Its a good way to bring in money and if people from the first-world feel safe in our country, it'll make us look better.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)03:22 No.17786414
    I also think we're in autosage, new thread time?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)03:25 No.17786435
    That's good thinking. We should also consider renting out special nano boxes that can only produce one thing. So maybe we could allow a drought ridden country to rest a water making machine, or something like that.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)03:26 No.17786441
    Ok, So maybe were Russia's drug dealer then?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)03:31 No.17786471
    Now you've got it! The tricky thing is making sure Russia doesn't get Nano machines and just make their own oil.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)03:34 No.17786489

    That's why we keep a tight lid on the actual nanites. If anyone asks, we state a very real fear of a nano-WMD program. (We're just being smart dictators and developing kickass conventional weapons. We should also look into EMP hardened nanites for our weapons systems, to either repair anything knocked out, or to harden our systems in the first place. With our soon-to-be built laser defense systems, we should be able to punch to orbit, making nukes useless against us)
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)03:42 No.17786544
    We'll yeah, but considering it only takes one machine getting out to fuck us, we should get a plan together for what to do when it does.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)03:44 No.17786552
    When I say "Fucked" I mean irrelevant on the international scene. Except as the home of black superman.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)03:45 No.17786569

    Black-box shutdown, and, in addition, having those nanites made separate from other runs(The AIDS cures) to be a dead-end with no way to immediately reprogram them, allowing us time for develop more anti-nanite countermeasures in our weapons facility.

    It'll happen, but we have many ways to prevent this, also, we'll need a new thread soon.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)03:47 No.17786581
    In that case we should have all our nano-anything and everything ready to be put to the torch, Before we go public just in case. Then we don't tell anyone, Unless it looks like someone is going to invade then to tell everyone.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)03:56 No.17786642
    tbh I'm more worried about our economy. No one is going to be stupid enough to outright invade the country that cured aids and supplies 40 percent of Russia's oil. But if Russia can just Nano machine their oil needs away, there won't be much need for us.

    That'll work in the short run, but what about the long run?
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)03:58 No.17786654

    New thread there, hopefully being able to bump back to page 1 will bring in some new people.

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