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    1.21 MB Dictator Quest Part 10 Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)22:01 No.17796326  
    Currently having a combat situation. Monthly posts will resume post Marine event.

    LETS ROCK! (also will post map in next post.)

    Nation: Republic of Zanzi
    Information: Free Religion! Republic!
    Resources: Average Resources. Specific to come soon.
    Location: West Africa near Ivory Coast. Fictional location. To be mapped.
    Political Ties: Russia is a close friend - when they remember we exist... China has sold/loaned equipment to us before.
    Era: Near Future / Modern. Late 2012.

    Leader: President Negasso Garawa. Also known as "Xavier" - Elected President For Life.
    Race: Black Male
    History: Graduated from Moscow University with a business major. Has contacts within the Russian government.

    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)22:02 No.17796350
    I'll work on the maps if you want. Nothing Ctrl-v and MS paint can't do.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:10 No.17796411
    Kill those fucking marines. Kill them all. Stop pussyfooting around and spend every dollar it takes to kill or capture every last one of them.

    What am I PAYING you miserable fucks for?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:13 No.17796440
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    You don't pay me at all, and furthermore my fucks are not miserable.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:15 No.17796459
    We need one alive. Murder the rest
    >> Marine Incident Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)22:15 No.17796461
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    -EXPLOSION! One of the radar sites has exploded! S-300s have launched instantly afterwards from other sights. Intercepting two tomahawks over the city. A third nearly makes it to the Russian part of the airfield.

    -Russian aircraft in the air have intercepted and shot down a VH-22 coming in from the opposite of the "bird flock" - our mig pilots find nothing where the bird flock was. EX-KGB guy says that our pilots were fooled by ECM.

    -Marines at Stadium have hunkered down in the interior corridors of the stadium - its turned into hall to hall fighting. Now that the Marines are actually sitting still, we should be able to capture and or kill them.

    -Marines at airbase almost, are attacking the airbase radar site! Guards are defending it as best they can, Hinds have quickly arrived and are suppressing the Marines with some minor collateral damage.

    -3rd marine group is still missing...
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:16 No.17796468
    I'd say at least three, but yeah most of them aren't needed.
    >> Marine Incident Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)22:17 No.17796471
    Before anyone bitches. I know the S-300 has enough range to hit the missiles from far far far away.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)22:18 No.17796483
    We already have some. They left behind some wounded.
    Oops. Forgot to guard the SAM sites. Well I guess this means war.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:19 No.17796496
    Has the US lost their fucking minds?
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)22:22 No.17796534
    I wanted attack subs. No, they said. Too expensive, they said. Well who's laughing now?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:24 No.17796542
    Well, they WERE experiencing riots back home.

    We need IFV and Hind protection at the thorium reactor facility and at the NeoTekz HQ.

    I assume we have adequate security around the Presidential Residence, right?
    The Marines might try to come after us directly.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)22:25 No.17796558
    First priority is keeping our radar up and figuring out where the missiles are coming from. The Marines are the least of our worries now.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:26 No.17796559
    Try to capture the marines if at all possible.

    >Marines air base
    Kill them all.

    Get our scuds ready, if Liberia starts anything then we need bomb them straight to hell.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:27 No.17796576
    Do we know if any of our neighbours possesses tomahawks?
    If they don't this makes it pretty easy to announce this as an open attack by the US against us. Unprovoked act of aggression and all that jazz.
    Let's see them claim that the 'pirates' and not them are firing missiles at us in front of the UN.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)22:28 No.17796592
    Hopefully, this puts the EU on our side. That would give us pretty much the entire planet against the US.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:29 No.17796599
    Oh also secure the wreck of the V-22 (and any personnel, dead or alive) as further proof
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:29 No.17796600
    Well yeah, but I don't think starting a war with the country that cured AIDS is going to help with that!
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:32 No.17796627
    Noone besides the US operates V-22s, right?
    This makes pinning this incident on them pretty easy.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)22:32 No.17796628
    Right now, we just need to break the communications jamming. Maybe the Russians or even NATO will finally send us some help dealing with these assholes.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:32 No.17796637
    We really need to get someone in a jeep or something to contact the outside world.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/03/12(Fri)22:33 No.17796642

    We use whatever means of communication possible to get news about this shit outside of our borders. Someone take this shit across the gate to Ghana. We need backup! Get Russia over here NOW.

    We are going to END the US government.

    Bitches won't know what hit them.

    This is not a fucking coincidence. My concerns about the ship being a trojan horse seem to be worth the weight now.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:35 No.17796674
    did part 9 get archived? If it did can I get a link? If not can I get a quick run down of whats going on?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:36 No.17796690
    Russia is already here. They're the ones who shot down the helicopter. Also they just missed having their part of the base blown up.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)22:36 No.17796691
    US marines (maybe 30 or so) wreaking havok through our capital. Also, the US Navy seems to be attacking us.
    >> Marine Incident Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)22:38 No.17796706
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)22:38 No.17796711
    Wait, can they communicate with the motherland?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:38 No.17796716
    Marines escaped from holding facility, armed themselves, seemed to be heading for stadium, now have apparently split up in at least three groups.
    Someone is jamming us major time, interception of radar contacts turned out to be ECM so we potentially got stuff flying around in our borders.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/03/12(Fri)22:38 No.17796719
    I mean I want Russian integration with our country. More bases. More men. More firepower.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:40 No.17796731
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)22:40 No.17796735
    We don't have time for that. Right now we just need a naval surge. Problem is, I'm pretty sure the US Navy could take on pretty much every other navy in the world combined.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:40 No.17796746
    This. Have the Russians lost contact too? If so, fuck, fuck, fuck.
    If not this isn't half as bad as it seemed as first. And with the downed V-22 along with the tomahawk attack with have pretty good proof that the US is behind this, and thus a major card we can play in int politics.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:41 No.17796753
    Unless they've got a landline or satellite uplink they haven't told us about, they shouldn't be able to.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/03/12(Fri)22:42 No.17796758
    We've got better than a Navy, we've got a black box that gives us shit. By the time Russia is moving shit down to us for protection, we'll be inventing some crazy, targetable doomsday device that will make us world power #1
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:43 No.17796771
    The problem is that dooms day weapons take some serious R&D time. And we're at war with the US right now.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:45 No.17796785
    We don't really know if this is war or a rescue/retrieval operation that someone fucked up major time.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)22:46 No.17796791

    Go PRESS CONFERENCE right now!

    We have PROOF we're being attacked by the US, get that shit out to other people. They won't stand for this shit.

    Either capture or kill the marines. We'll send the bodies back to the US, or throw them down a deeper, darker hole.

    Do we know if it was a Tomahawk, HARM, or SF that blew up one of our radars? Also, if we have any SA-22s in the city, we can also use them against the marines. Should make them surrender.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/03/12(Fri)22:46 No.17796792
    Nanotech can be made to be self-reproducing/multiplying. We just need to think of something that can scale to craziness.

    Maybe something like a nano-anthrax programmed to duplicate itself for 30 days and only harm people with a certain biometric profile, then it self-destructs.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:46 No.17796802
    the 3rd group might be going for EL PRESIDENTE HIMSELF!
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:46 No.17796803
    Whatever it started as it turned into a war as soon as the US started launching missiles at us.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:47 No.17796815
    We CAN'T go to Press Time because all international and TV signals are being jammed.
    We can ask the Russian airbase if their communications are being jammed as well.
    >> Marine Incident Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)22:48 No.17796819
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    -EX-KGB suggests the following explanation (See Picture.)

    -Another wave of missiles has been intercepted by the S-300s, one tomahawk made it through the defenses and has struck the Russian part of the base exploding an empty hanger - if the scramble had not happened, it would have taken out much more than an empty hanger.

    -Systems are still jammed.

    -Reports of ground fighting at Russian part of airfield between the missing 3rd "Marine" group. Air traffic control tower has been demolished by planted explosions.

    -Ex-KGB Offers a new explanation, they're after the Russians. As much as he hates to say it, standing down MIGHT prevent more Zanzian casualties...but Russia would not like this. On top of which, without outside communication, we have no idea if this is local or not. For all we know, US could be painting us as having WMDs. Ontop of which, 30 standard marines would NOT have this sort of operation. The fact that they were plain clothed, they may be Delta. May be. We never had confirmation that they were marines to begin with.

    -NeoTekz offers a solution to the jamming, but it might bring fire to their corporate office in capital.
    >Reminder, these posts are "by the minute" and not monthly.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:48 No.17796824
    All our shit is being jammed, as far as I know even the Russian planes are cut off.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)22:48 No.17796826

    This. Its time to start destroying US bases on their mainlaind with rail-launchers in our mountains after deploying ALL THE LASERS to destroy incoming missiles and aircraft. Publically denounce the US and make sure everyone knows we're doing this in self-defense and will stop when the US is willing to talk. (But be sure to wipe Pendleton off the map first.)
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)22:48 No.17796831
    Well, if we get on the horn with the Kremlin, Putin can remind that about the whole "Mutually Assured Destruction" thing. Also, the UK has Tomahawks too, for whatver that's worth.
    We would if we weren't facing a communications blackout.
    I always hoped we'd figure out how to turn it into brain hemorrhaging for people we don't like.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)22:50 No.17796851

    Let them know that their bravery in this will not go unrewarded. If they can fix it, do it. We need thw orld to know what's happening. Can they deploy our lasers to our capital to defend against missile attacks?

    And have our Fencers found any targets over the ocean? I mandated that they be deployed with AShMs.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:50 No.17796855
    Fuck casualties, we are standing with the Russians on this. This might be an attack against them, but it is still happening on our soil, and it is our country that is being shelled with US missiles.
    They are going to pay for this.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:51 No.17796865
    There's no way in hell we're going to stand down and allow the Americans to attack our ally.

    Do it, if our AIDS cure stuff gets taken out, it will do more damage to them then us.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)22:51 No.17796870
    Delta=/= Marine Corps. They could be MARSOC, but that's kind of the bastard black sheep of SOCOM. Also, I'm suggesting we have a Mig-29 go flyover Europe to figure out what the hell is going on.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:51 No.17796871
    Deploy as much military force as we can quickly. Send our patrol boats out, turn off all their electronics, and try to find what is launching the tomahawk missiles since I assume they are ship-based. We need to find them and if we go in dark they won't be able to get a bead on us. Send the patrol boats out with high explosives to plant on any ships in our waters illegally. Secure the airfield, secure the stadium, and secure NeoTekz HQ. Deploy our hinds to the civilian airfield. Task our jets with finding the jammer, which is probably air based, but also have our pathfinders combing the city for a jammer signal.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)22:51 No.17796873

    Its their tower in Swa'sin city, not their main research lab.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:53 No.17796883
    I'll add onto this, send out the message to apply lethal force. If they surrender willingly, disarm them and render them unconscious with a firm gun butt to the head, but don't actively try to take them alive.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:53 No.17796889
    >-EX-KGB suggests the following explanation (See Picture.)

    We have submarines?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:54 No.17796896
    Whoops! Still, the world needs to know. There is no victory without sacrifice.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:54 No.17796897
    No, but the US does.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)22:54 No.17796899
    It might be a Los Angeles class. Either way, our Navy is in no shape to engage American naval vessel.
    Head injuries don't work like the movies.
    That's a destroyer.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:55 No.17796906
    That's an American stealth destroyer. It's what's launching the missiles. I wonder if it has a railgun?
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)22:55 No.17796907

    No, Jackass, the US is using their new stealth destroyer to tomahawk us. I suggest we start kinetically bombarding their military bases with our own railguns, after deploying defense lasers, and, hopefully, anti-stealth technology.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:55 No.17796910
    >Ground-fighting at Russian AFB
    Mobilize and send over our tanks and motorized infantry, as well as any available Hinds, to provide support to the Russians.

    Use the solution, we will redirect defensives forces to their corporate office.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/03/12(Fri)22:56 No.17796918
    I knew it. The US is after the Russians via our resources and shit. This was a fucking trojan horse operation.

    We are going to Fuck Them Up. they aren't messing with Russia, they're messing with US. Russia is our unwitting lap dog at this point.


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    And death to every foe!
    Our soldiers shall not pause to rest
    We vow our loyalty

    Old traditions they will abide
    Arise young heroes!
    Our past inspires noble deeds
    All Hail ZANZIA!

    Immortal beacon shows the way
    Step forth, seek glory!
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    So let his wisdom guide our way
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    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:56 No.17796919
    >MFW marines get a contusion and stroke out.
    That's kind of the point. Low chance of surviving it.

    And the US military is completely unprepared for a low-tech attack. They're so dedicated to high tech they'll be caught completely off guard. Several naval war games have shown this and they refuse to change their strategy.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:56 No.17796922
    Possible, but unlikely. It they had it they would have used it.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:57 No.17796931
    Just dispatch a plane to outside of jamming range to restore communications with Russia, and through them the rest of the world.
    >> Marine Incident Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)22:57 No.17796938
    Aviationfag/others. We don't have railguns yet...they only -started- researching them.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:58 No.17796946
    Seconding this.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)22:59 No.17796950

    Oh. Your last post on the subject made it seem like it would be a trivial matter because of the flippancy implied in the post. Still, after this, we need to put EVERYTHING into that program, to at least get a working defensive weapon up long enough to cover us until we can strike back.
    >> Slushed 02/03/12(Fri)22:59 No.17796958
    There is no way this is not the prelude to an invasion, one that will probably happen within the next day....

    Im not saying we should stand down, but if we were to who the hell will we talk to?

    We need people at our government building, the ZIA, and Zanzian base communicating with each other and to people in the field via text message (this is most likely getting jammed as well, can anybody think of a means of communication if this dose not work?)

    Approve NeoTekz, send Fishbeds to patrol around Green City
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)22:59 No.17796959
    This. And fast.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/03/12(Fri)22:59 No.17796961

    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)23:00 No.17796970
    We don't have the time.
    An invasion would be much better coordinated. It looks like the Americans had an unexpected shooting war kick up.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)23:01 No.17796982

    I know we don't have the time NOW, but this is only the start of the war. We won't take this lying down. We simply need to keep ourselves free long enough to get our technology working right, and then we can absolutely WRECK America.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:01 No.17796983
    -Inform the world of what's going on, maybe we can turn everyone against the U.S.
    -actively pursue and engage all U.S. ground forces in Zanzia, be sure to use air force as well
    -Send out some of the navy to positively identify and maybe engage Ex-KGB guy's theory
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:01 No.17796984
    I assume Iran already pulled the suicide boat attacks on them for real when they invaded, so they might have changed this time.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:02 No.17796990
    If we get comms with Russia through this, see if we could get some help in finding the missile ship through satellites (if by any luck they have one over the area).
    >> Dintin 02/03/12(Fri)23:04 No.17797010
    Nonsense. The Naval command is so committed to the standard strategy they refuse to deviate even in the slightest. Their fideism is our advantage.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:04 No.17797025
    and of course this could just be a very complicated false flag operation by Russia to make us more dependent/get more stuff out of us
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)23:06 No.17797037
    I'm thinking we have one of our Mig 29s try to make it to Europe.
    Not even the Russians are that good.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:07 No.17797044
    A false flag operation involving US Marines, US Missiles, and US Stealth Ships? That seems unlikely.
    >> Slushed 02/03/12(Fri)23:07 No.17797049
    No way Russia is that subtle

    >Hey Aviationfag

    What are the chances of a group of Fulcrums successfully flying out and attacking that missile cruiser?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:08 No.17797051
    I find this very unlikely. They'd have to get their hands on a V-22, a shipload of US-equipment, a ship capable of firing loads of tomahawks at us, and about 30 guys that would pass as Marines throughout several days of holding.

    Might be possible, but seems pretty unlikely nevertheless
    >> HayashiKawa 02/03/12(Fri)23:09 No.17797056
    >send out some of the navy

    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)23:09 No.17797062

    None, because assuming I got listened to the first time, we have Fencers out there with AshMs to do the job while Fulcrums fly air watch.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)23:10 No.17797065
    Next to none. A Zumwalt could engage them before they were even aware of its presence. Nothing we have can pose a serious threat.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:10 No.17797066
    Why go as far as Europe? I doubt the jamming extends far past our country.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)23:11 No.17797077
    Well, that's where the major air corridors are. Air traffic control is usually pretty closely tied to military command, so I can't think of a better way to instantly get most of the world's attention.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:11 No.17797078
    We have no idea what exactly is waiting for us out there. For all we know it could be half a fleet. Is it really wise to send any planes out there for now?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:12 No.17797081
    Hey, don't we have some BBC in our capital? Shouldn't they have some decent communications equipment?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:13 No.17797090
    We can have another African nation relay the message, they sorta owe us for the AIDS cure.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:14 No.17797098
    If our military is jammed they are most likely aswell.
    Nevertheless inform them of the situation. We might be lucky and they can get through, and even if they don't, we'd inform the press later on anyway, no harm in them knowing now.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)23:16 No.17797120
    Africa has terrible communications infrastructure. Besides, the US could jam our neighbors without any consequences.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:16 No.17797122
    Also keep in mind that if they are firing cruise missiles at us they could potentially be pretty far out.
    >> Slushed 02/03/12(Fri)23:20 No.17797140
    Well, I thought as much. Still trying to familiarize myself with Russian jets...

    If we ever get out of this alive, the AIDs cure should be use to procure a LOT more aircraft.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:20 No.17797144

    I'm serious. Send messengers all over place.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:21 No.17797151
    We seem to be able to coordinate just fine, so we're probably using a combination of landline phones and messengers.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:23 No.17797161
    ...do we have a landline to, say, the Kremlin or the UN? Even the AU, hell.
    >> Marine Incident Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)23:24 No.17797165
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    >implying I make that mistake "Out of characterly"

    Understand that, it was your informants who called them marines, not the OP. I simply continued to use the term to identify them. EG: EX-KGB is going "well fuck, seems we were wrong, these guys aren't what I thought they were..."

    -Cruise Missiles have ceased for now.

    -NeoTekz has broken through jamming and has acquired the world network again. Counter-jamming is working on most systems, we have Radar again. Finding Zumwalt in the sea however will be hard, it has the radar signature of a fishing boat, and we have a debri filled oil-rig burning waterway...

    -WORLD NEWS! As it stands... An F-35 engaged and destroyed a Russian Beriev A-50U with its cannon - moments before he had been flying wing-side to ward off the Beriev for getting to close to US fleet. This sparked an immediate retaliation from a now very angry Russian navy...and it went down-hill from there.

    Based on this information...

    -Ex-KGB Guy believes that this was meant to be a covert rescue operation of whomever these American Spec-Ops are. Mid-operation the Artic-Event happens, and the Russian used Airbase became a target priority.

    -Internet Theories, while its still up, are basing theories on the USN's network grid. Apparently their command computers were affected by some malfunction and the F-35 pilot got the go-code in mistake. Though the internet armchair debate has no idea how or why a US military network would have been affected...
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:27 No.17797189
    >counter-jamming successful
    While the counter-jamming is still working, get a message off to the Kremlin that their airbase here is under attack, we're holding for now.
    Have the BBC transmit as much of the story as they can while the uplink is still working. We need to get this story out while we can.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:27 No.17797190
    Now that we have communications up we need to make a speech to our people.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:27 No.17797194
    China. Got to be. They're the ones with the crazy professional hacker wing.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)23:27 No.17797196

    GET OUR SITUATION TO THE WORLD. The US can't just attack the nation that cured AIDS without reprecussions.

    Give them delayed-live footage of our capital under attack, and of the tomahawk strikes, including radar tapes.

    Its time to get the US taken down a peg.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:28 No.17797198
    World War III is happening. We are small potatoes.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:29 No.17797203
    I think the Russian navy is trying to do that right now.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:29 No.17797208

    This. We need to make sure that AT THE VERY LEAST, Europe stays out of it. Preferably they'd take our side. Maybe we'll have to share this nanotechnology with them, to win them over.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:29 No.17797209
    That, or it was just a glitch.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:30 No.17797216
    So with comms up again:
    Inform the press that the US committed an attack against our soil. Russian used base or not this definetely crossed the line.
    Do we have the downed V-22 yet? If though use this as proof, if no tell them that we did down a V-22 which we can hopefully show later and can also show debris of tomahawks.

    Also ask Russia for help in finding the missile ship, if we find it sink it (if we have the capabilities for that, that is. aviationfag?)
    >> Slushed 02/03/12(Fri)23:30 No.17797219
    Would a stripped down Mig-25 be a good platform for our AA lasers, perhaps with upgraded sensory equipment using our shiny new quantum computers? Is speed the optimal factor, or do we need more maneuverability ?
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)23:32 No.17797226

    Aircraft lasers are only cannon replacements. Defense lasers are SAM standins. We'd need a whole-new aircraft for airborne laserspam.

    And yes, if we can find the Zumwalt, we can hit it with AShMs. But we have to find it, then we can just launch our missiles from max range, let them cruise in, and hope for the best, rinse, and repeat.
    >> Fleet Admiral Anon 02/03/12(Fri)23:32 No.17797230
    No, on the contrary. We are exporting 40% of Russia's Crude oil. That makes us a very VERY big strategic target.

    We must stand the ENTIRE Miltary on FULL ALERT. No quarter for these so called "Marines", shoot the bastards dead. US Spec Ops are nasty nasty bastards, and they have attacked us, a Sovereign Nation.

    I am now in full agreement with Aviationfag, we need to get Lasers and Rainguns up and running, and start building errything military. Frigates, Flankers with Laser systems, Railgun tanks, the lot. I see a lot of US hurt coming our way very shortly.

    And someone ring Putin RIGHT FUCKING NOW and tell him that we've got his back.

    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:32 No.17797231
    We should wait until we have AA lasers to worry about that.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)23:33 No.17797242
    For both, the PAK FA would be superior. Thrust vectoring and supercruise are awesome.
    As always, take them if they surrender, kill them if they don't. We don't want a war right now
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:34 No.17797245
    We don't have the tech to build rail guns or lasers!
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)23:34 No.17797249

    I take it you support my mega-railguns to bombard US bases from our mountains?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:35 No.17797253
    rolled 21 = 21


    That is the beauty of nanites.

    We don't need the conventional tech for making them, we just need a blue print.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)23:36 No.17797258
    I never pass up a superweapon.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:37 No.17797267
    That's the thing, we don't have the blueprints! We've started R&D, but only just recently. They won't be ready for a while.
    >> Fleet Admiral Anon 02/03/12(Fri)23:37 No.17797272
    Oh hell yes. I will not stand for the US throwing its shit around like it doesnt stink. The Bastards ATTACKED US in significant force. Why do you people not see that the shit is hitting the fan?

    2 Threads ago, The EU and NATO were considering throwing the USA out of NATO.
    THe US is a rouge state, as good as Iran. Which is bottom-tier shit.

    Build Giant Rail-Cannons, OPEN FIRE!
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:37 No.17797273

    WWII was decided, at least on one front, by tech that took the whole war to make.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:38 No.17797282

    What we need to do is get the EU on our side. I'd say we do this by whatever means necessary, personally.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:39 No.17797293
    As much as I am for superweapons and going to war with the US, we are still weeks if not months away from railguns, lasers, etc.

    We have an immediate crisis though which needs our attention now.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:39 No.17797294
    The Pacific war was decided literally at the beginning of hostilities.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)23:40 No.17797297
    Not really. Operation Downfall was possible, it just would have sucked.
    The EU has always been one of my favorite superpowers.
    I fully support any and all suspicion aimed at the Chinese.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:40 No.17797307
    Thanks, that's what I was trying to say.
    >> FEBRUARY 2018 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)23:42 No.17797317
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    -NeoTekz says they could rapid produce railguns until a design works..like a giant trial and error...but thats using Nanites to build untested designs at a high rate. While it could give us even super weapon railguns within a day...

    -Special forces at stadium have been killed. Special forces at airport have been killed. Two survivors unwounded, three wounded. 3rd team is missing.

    -VH-22 Osprey wreckage secure.

    -DDG Zumwalt is unseen. Daylight does not reveal her position - the smoke from the burning oil rig is doing more than enough to make visibility poor.

    -NeoTekz says jamming has ceased.

    -Russia NATO war continues. No nuclear weapons at this time. Both fleets have taken extensive damage, and world wide locations were (on both parties) hit by nearby equipment. The actual fighting has died down and is limited to the occasional skirmish, missile strike, or special forces raid.

    -Damage report: 15% of the city has been damaged in some form, but the majority is superficial. We lost two radar sites, with 25+ dead, and over 200 personnel injured in some way. Most will live.

    -Liberia has built up a defensive force on its border but has not crossed it.
    >> Slushed 02/03/12(Fri)23:43 No.17797333
    Then there was Midway, which could have turned out completely different
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:45 No.17797364
    > Most will live.

    I want all of them to live, dammit! ALL!
    Whatever it takes!
    Even if they never ask for that!

    >Seriously, it's time to start transhumanist development
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:45 No.17797365
    Okay, right now, we get as much media as we can and tell everyone how in the midst of this conflict, the US attacked a neutral nation without provocation. We invite anybody to come and inspect what has happened. Drop another nano-tech discovery into the media, doesn't matter what it is, as long as it grabs attention.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:47 No.17797382
    We should invest heavily into internal security and defence
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:47 No.17797386
    Okay, what's the catch?

    >3rd team still missing
    Keep looking for that third team!
    Make sure that security for the Presidential Residence, the NeoTekz HQ, and the Thorium Reactor are all high.

    >stealth DDG
    Continue looking for the Zumwalt.

    Get medical attention to our wounded.
    Also help out the Russians at the AFB.

    Maintain a high defensive alert. Have our armor division ready for a possible invasion.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:47 No.17797388



    As long as no one gets hurt by it, go ahead

    >Spec ops

    finding the missing team is priority number one. The survivors, we interrogate. If they don't give us anything.... well, what're the rules for POWs again? Can we kill them?


    Search that shit.

    > oil rig

    Fix it.


    We need to have a meeting with Russia. Say we're on their side in this, after all that. And, in addition, say that we should really try to get the EU on our side. If we can, this could be the end of the US as a superpower.


    have civil services working overtime to repair it.

    > Liberia

    Stage a meeting with the leaders in an attempt to diffuse tension.

    >free action


    Broadcast everywhere, explain exactly what happened, show footage. Express outrage at the US, and grieve over the deaths and damages.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)23:47 No.17797390

    Begin railgun production. Have then do the same with lasers. Even if the laser architecture only allows for limited shots, a lightspeed weapon that can intercept aircraft and nukes incoming would be a godsend. We can simply make up for failure rate with EVEN MORE TURRETS.

    Fuck licenses, have Neotekz scan our tanks, BMPs and BTRs, and fab up enough to fully motorize ALL our army. Gloves are off. Inform the US that a state of war now exists between us and them, and that nowhere on the planet is safe from our might.(Once we have the mountain cannon set up. We can test it by destroying Pendleton.)

    PRESS CONFERENCE right now denouncing the US for their attacks on us. Maybe we can get the rest of the world to get on our and Russia's side.

    Let our people know that we won't stand for this, and that we'll be doing our best to avenge the loss of our brave soldiers.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:48 No.17797397

    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/03/12(Fri)23:48 No.17797403
    It's nearly midnight where I live. Please don't start any wars without me.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/03/12(Fri)23:49 No.17797411
    Sound the Vuvuzelas of destruction! Find and kill those not-marines!

    Priority 1) Marines/regrouping operations

    Priority 2) RaiLazers

    Priority 3) More military bases

    Priority 4) New communications infrastructure

    And use the first ZONES space to teach our civilians crisis response shit. I want firefighting martial arts masters.
    >> Fleet Admiral Anon 02/03/12(Fri)23:51 No.17797426

    Aviationfag is our new General.

    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:51 No.17797427
    I advise heavily against declaring war or anything in that sort. Let Russia and US duke it out.

    US can crush like a bug if it goes into full "fuck everything" mode
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:51 No.17797433
    Go to the UN about US belligerence. Attempt to get the US thrown out of NATO through diplomatic channels. The rest people of the world surely won't stand for it. Put the military on sustained alert.
    Also, go to the AU and attempt to sway member states towards an anti-US bloc. The US is undermining our efforts at curing AIDS, making them the single greatest threat to the well being of the average African.
    Get the BBC, Russia Today, etc to run a story on this shit.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:51 No.17797439
    we need to mass produce soldiers and wepons
    a secret cloning factory and making those nanites self replicate enough for a second line of work be possible
    maybe under the first line of work underground or something
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:52 No.17797452


    Oh fuck no, this is a terrible idea. Goddamn, what would we do with them after the war? What if they choose not to be soldiers? No, this isn't an issue we want to tackle rightt now.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:53 No.17797459

    I'm guessing that Russia will stop us if we start a war. Ask Russia first, then.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:53 No.17797461
    Conscription, anyone?
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:54 No.17797466

    >> HayashiKawa 02/03/12(Fri)23:54 No.17797467

    > Inform the US
    Not this.

    We're openly against them, but we plan our strikes quietly until we can do an overwhelming attack. Preferably, we target the assholes who are ordering this stuff, not whole bases.

    We need more intel on the situation of public unrest in the US, opinion toward Zanzia, and what we can do to spur the citizenry to take the reigns over there.
    >> Aviationfag 02/03/12(Fri)23:54 No.17797472

    No it can't, because we'd be saying it AFTER our lasers and railguns were being deployed. Even a 5-shot laser turret is useful if we can mass-produce them. Which we can. Imagine being able to shoot down ANYTHING coming our way, with no way to evade it, while, we can bomb anyone with our rail-launchers with impunity, because you can't intercept our kinetics.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:55 No.17797481

    -Sent out search teams for that last group. They must be found. Find out the identities (if possible) of the spec forces. Compile a dossier/information of the forces used against us to be sent to major Media stations across the world.

    -Begin reconstruction of the city, make it grander and better. Have the soldiers receive the best medical treatment.

    -Reassure the populace by rolling your sleeves up and helping in the reconstruction of the city personally. You stand by your people.

    This attack has been kind of fortuitous, if you think about it. It has shown massive security flaws in our country that need to be addressed. We did well against the spec ops, but we need to do better.

    -Our radar installations need to be rebuilt. We also need better installations more cleverly hidden to ensure that our radar won't be destroyed like that in the future.

    -We need to develop computer system defenses to ensure that our radar won't be as fucked as it was. We also need better stealth detection technology. We also need a way to destroy/render useless the satellite the US relies on so much.

    -We need a better navy. We need the railguns developed and fitted onto smaller ships.

    -We need to develop counter-communications technology as well. They were able to coordinate too well in our turf.

    -Find out how the team got out.

    -Warn Liberia that there movements are aggressive, and we will respond with force if they violate our nations integrity.
    >> CLOSING REPORT FOR TONIGHT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/03/12(Fri)23:55 No.17797484
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    OP here. Stopping possibly for the night. I could keep going but quality of my posts would drop. So its for your own good. I -may- post some actions tomorrow, but I DM darkheresy tomorrow so yeah.

    -NeoTekz says that it could be risky, as your firing untested weapons to see which design works best for us.... or we could just over-size the US Navy version and "fuck" the laws of "permission to copy our shit." in this time of need.

    -You have gone live with the news of this, but your nation isn't the only one caught in this world of butt-hurt.

    -EU is trying to avoid war, though some nations are partially involved with the US fleet.

    Everything else will be covered next time. Feel free to debate what needs be done.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:56 No.17797490
    >Captured special forces
    We should follow the Geneva Convention. Besides making us look good, we can hold the prisoner hostage if we need something from the US later. But, we should also have them watch hooky propaganda about how awesome our country is once a week or so. That'll learn em.

    >Third Special forces unit
    SOP is shoot to kill

    >Rail gun
    Do it

    Show it to our buddies in the BBC.

    Get our soldiers on high alert, but under no circumstances are they to shoot first! If they get attacked then they should shoot back, naturally.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:56 No.17797491
    It could take years to develop good, reliable laser defense system and set it up
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:56 No.17797500
    >We need more intel on the situation of public unrest in the US, opinion toward Zanzia, and what we can do to spur the citizenry to take the reigns over there.
    Seconding this. Public opinion towards the war is probably not so positive, but I'd like to know for certain.
    >> Anonymous 02/03/12(Fri)23:57 No.17797505
    Step one is to secure the world opinion.

    I hope to God that we filmed the entire of the night's escapades.

    Step 2: secure the nation:

    Armoured Brigade to the Liberian border, everyone else is to hunt down that Marine team; if they refuse surrender (and have a live link with all hunter-killer groups) then kill 'em. Then sink that fucking stealth cruiser.

    3. Diplomatic offensive; Asia (India, China, South Sea nations aside from Japan and South Korea), Europe, esp. Russia and those nations near to it and South America; try to get as many people on our side as possible (Africa can't do shit right now; use that as part of the diplomatici offensive, US exploitin' Africa, AIDS curer, best nation in Africa so far, etc).

    >> Slushed 02/03/12(Fri)23:57 No.17797511

    I say we hunker down and concentrate on our game changers.

    >Approve trial and error tests, provided a safe and secret location is chosen

    >Set up ground forces in defensive positions, Keep 1st armored on high alert near Swa'sin City.

    >Look into replacing radar

    > Have our SAMs placed in places optimal for covering armored division and protecting reactors.

    >Have ZIA scour for rats in Neotekz facility, government, and internally

    >Set up pres conference with the BBC, stating only FACTS-

    -Attacked by Tomahawk missiles from off shore,

    -Put down escaped criminals who attacked our armed forced and threatened our people

    -Shot down VH-22

    -Give figures of of wounded and dead
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)00:00 No.17797543

    Peotic justice. Upscale the US naval railgun as our primary anti-everything artillery and put it into a newly built mountain facility. Begin hitting US bases ASAP.

    Have them deploy prototype lasers as fast as they build them and correct flaws until we have something that can fire a few times, and then make both anti-air and anti-orbit versions.

    WHILE WE DO THIS, have them also be fabbing up replacements and copies of all our gear, as well as a SHITTON of spare ammunition. If they need to, have them build a nanite tower in our joint base in a warehouse to speed it up.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:02 No.17797563
    We shouldn't just begin hitting US bases ASAP. We should maintain the image of a complete victim nation until such time as there's no turning back. Shit has hit the fan, but we're not ready for total war and doing that would only make it come sooner. Prepare railguns to fire, but don't actually fire them.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:03 No.17797568
    We also need a draft. We're going to need a fuck load of bodies to slow down the Americans while we get the rail guns and lasers set up.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:05 No.17797583

    This. Build up our forces, start a draft, curry favor with countries. But we don't actually fight until Russia says so.

    Also, if we're looking for allies against the US - the Middle East. Depending on how the Arab Spring has gone, that place might be full of anti-US sentiment, just waiting to be harnessed,
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:05 No.17797592
    >3rd world african dictatorship
    >pushing war with america
    >advanced railguns
    >2012 in game
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:06 No.17797597
    we really need some lasguns and some leman russ
    preferably with a rail guntower
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)00:06 No.17797602

    The thing is, we're already in a state of war. By deploying conventional weapons that can hit anywhere on Earth, we're basically saying "Either you sit the fuck down and play nice" or we will fucking kill you no matter where you go. Sure, they'll probably try to nuke us, but that's why we also make sure we have the anti-orbit lasers and detection suites up.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)00:07 No.17797613
    Read thread- Its 2018

    go back to your 40k jackoffery
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:08 No.17797617







    >captcha dproadu A(Omega)...
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:08 No.17797620
    Actually it's 2018
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/04/12(Sat)00:11 No.17797644
    Real world news I just wanted to share, because its related.

    "WASHINGTON—Iran denied United Nations inspectors access to a suspected nuclear site, scientists and documents during a visit to Tehran this week, dimming already scant hopes for a breakthrough to end a standoff over Iran's nuclear work, said diplomats briefed on the International Atomic Energy Agency's mission."

    -SIGH- Anyways...also I hope this quest has been fun for everyone so far. I know we've teched up a lot beyond a 3rd-world dictatorship normally does, but I feel as if we've kept it close to real.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:12 No.17797654

    Actually, it's 2019, and we let NeoTekz set up camp in our nation in exchange for pretty much everything they make. And they made some nanite bullshit which lets us make stuff at an incredible rate.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:12 No.17797657

    I think ripping the US navy design is the safest option for now.

    Saves us R&D costs, and we can use the new Quantum computer to brute-force a lot of the design calculations needed to upscale it.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:12 No.17797658
    It's close enough to real for me to enjoy.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)00:13 No.17797663
    Not a draft. We've already got a conscription program. If we open up easy volunteer registration, I'm sure we'll get flooded.

    We are not anti-US, we are pro-Zanzia. Fighting with the US is a self-defense move. Attacking bases, declaring war, and stirring up shit is not good for us. We plan, we prepare, we wait, we offer support to protesters in the US, and we strike key targets (preferably specific people) when the time is right.

    That's winning on a broad level, but we also need ground-level defense. It's civvie training time.

    This thread is best thread.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:15 No.17797683

    Ahh shit, looks like we are gonna go to war soon. Well, at least I'll earn my commission then. Marines all the way.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:18 No.17797710
    So I guess it's time to build a fleet... and to allow the russian that secret base...
    >> New Canadian Empire 02/04/12(Sat)00:27 No.17797783
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:28 No.17797798
    He's dead Jim.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)00:29 No.17797804
    Yes. Let's keep it that way.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)00:29 No.17797809

    Black Superman died, dude. A sad day for Zanzia (We didn't even do anything about it!)


    >Let the Russians into our secret nanotech facility


    We'll become the leader of a new world, a world without hunger, without drought. And we'll start with Africa, while the First World watches in envy, unable to compete with us.

    But first, we need the military to protect ourselves, hence, we need a navy, we need our railtank, and we need our defense lasers.
    >> Indonesian Gentleman 02/04/12(Sat)00:31 No.17797828
    Willing to bet he'll show up with the 3rd Spec Ops guys beaten up and tied. Which raises questions on whether he's really on our side or not...
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:38 No.17797880
    I meant that base they wanted to study those american planes. Nobody get in nanotech ever.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)00:38 No.17797888

    You mean the join Russia-Zanzia base?

    That they helped build and have troops at?
    >> New Canadian Empire 02/04/12(Sat)00:42 No.17797927
    Well anyway gents while most of you are here from last night when a spoke of my own nation builder. The Canadian Empire one. I was thinking I could fire it up if I could get more then one player. :/ You know with all you still here mostly.
    What say you still interested?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:44 No.17797944
    Maybe, I missed thread 8 and 8.2 but it had to do with Iran selling F-22 to russia and russia wanting to study them here. General opinion was against it but if it's still on the table after this maybe we could agree (and copy/steal) the tech ourselves via Nanotech shenanigans...
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:44 No.17797950
    I'm going to bed in an hour, but I'm not doing anything until then.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)00:45 No.17797961
    Ok, so I have an idea on how to detect enemy stealth fighters. We make dedicated nano-camera arrays with Infrared and high-res optical imagers and deploy them as a very large shared array, allowing a higher resolution than a single point array, and that should allow long-range detection of the heat generated by any aircraft's motion at any aspect. Thoughts?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:47 No.17797970
    I've been thinking about something like that since before this thread. It should work but I'm not a scientist so I dunno.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:47 No.17797972
    considering the way we can store energy on a gun to shoot lasers

    cant we make some type of hydraulic armor? something like a RIPLEY but better armored and with focus on:
    hit-and-run tactics while in groups
    close infantry support
    weak AT or AA(maybe a version focused on that? like a Katyusha)

    yes front mission, dreadnought and hell even gundam, im looking at you
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:50 No.17798006
    I'm not sure that it would have a use. It seems like we could put those weapons on tanks or Jeep and save some R&D effort.
    >> New Canadian Empire 02/04/12(Sat)00:50 No.17798008
    Alright then. Ill get a thread up, also yall are invited since you all have some decent skills.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)00:53 No.17798042
    Make sure to post a link in the thread or I'll miss it.
    >> New Canadian Empire 02/04/12(Sat)00:58 No.17798097
    Also all you guys are welcome. Fellow patriots.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)01:07 No.17798207
    The technology in Planetside is based on Nanites.. Just sayin'
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)01:32 No.17798437
    the point is mobility and reasonable armor
    light enough to climb a building
    fast to keep up with a jeep (not that much will do)
    and jeeps need to turn, while the other can just sidestep
    also man needed to operate
    the suit is one man
    jeep is also transport
    but the suit is more reliable on complicated terrain(forest, rocky, steep hills)
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)01:36 No.17798483

    We don't need suits right now. We need anti-missile and anti-aircraft lasers, and naval railguns to keep us free and alive. Suits can come AFTER we assert our military dominance over the world.
    >> Servant of the Emperor 02/04/12(Sat)01:39 No.17798507
    Shouldnt we be considered for our own safety as well at this time?

    A 3rd team of special forces are missing.
    We've been sending troops to our plants, airports, bases, but what about our presidential palace?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)01:42 No.17798534
    im not talking about priorities, its more like a research tree on a rts

    the priorities are already set and i agree 100% with them
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)01:42 No.17798535

    I assumed we were in our secret undergorund bunker covered by a company of infantry.

    Worst happens, we hole up in the Neotekz lab.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)07:41 No.17800677
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    I think we need some sort of long-range weapon to strike at enemies with. We need to defend our interests after all.
    Since we're knee-deep in soviet gear anyway, might as well try this baby.
    Mig-25 Foxbat, for when you absolutely need as much thrust as you can pack.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)11:09 No.17802023
    What we need to do is find out just how close to war we are. Is Russia trying to invade the US? Is the US trying to do the same? That's how we need to decide what we do next. If war is happening, we need to find every ally against the US we can. If it's just a Cold War 2, we throw all our money into tech.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/04/12(Sat)14:05 No.17803535
    I'm awake. 5 hours to dark heresy, so I'll make a few posts.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)14:12 No.17803599
    Dammit, just when I was about to try out the CK2 demo.
    >> MARCH 2018 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/04/12(Sat)15:36 No.17804397
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    -Map provided includes...
    Blue = NATO,
    Green = American Allies/not in NATO but pro-NATO
    Purple = NATO and reconsidering being NATO...,
    Red = Russian (including ourselves) sphere of influence at this time,
    Yellow = Chinese SOI at this time,

    -VH-22 has no survivors noted, no gear removed. It seems the A2A missile went through the cockpit and exploded out the back. It is clearly US however.

    -NeoTekz has up-scaled the American design that, supposedly is not operational yet due to wear and tear issues. A problem nanites can fix for us. They request time to do tests and tweaks before we have a reliable weapon. It will draw a lot of energy however, we should probably build a dedicated thorium reactor in our mountain neotekz base...or even a Uranium/Plutonium reactor.

    -Russia is understanding of the situation and apologizes for being the cause of American interference. They have sent several air transports with both troops, equipment, and engineers to help repair and re-fortify your position.

    -NATO/US and Russian forces continue sporadic clashes world wide. Several EU nations in NATO are considering dropping from NATO at this point from Russian urges.

    -ZIA reports the 3rd party of marines have been spotted making their way towards Liberia, they will arrive in Swa'Sin city's county/region if they keep their current course.

    -With increasing healthcare and education, we foresee that life span will continue to improve. Perhaps we should look into a method to deal with elderly once that approaches.

    -Wild Fires have been dealt with. The 'starters' have disappeared into the Liberian border, ZIA says.

    -Liberian meeting has ended, Liberia insists they are not provoking these actions and that anything done is by IC Rebels trying to force Zanzia to invade and "Liberate" the nation.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)15:46 No.17804508


    Yeah, we're gonna need some of their magical lasers and railguns and whatnot. Thorium is safest, so I'm saying we build that.


    Thank them for the troops.

    Helicopters, planes, whatever. Just make sure they're all killed or captured.


    We'll deal with that after WW3.

    Good enough excuse for now, I guess.

    >free action

    I'm guessing Russia is doing its best to convince the EU nations not to side with America. If we wanted to ensure that the US gets no more allies from Europe, we could always offer to share nanotechnology with those countries willing to defend us from the US.

    Just a thought.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)15:48 No.17804536
    I'll take Germany for 500, Alex.

    Increase troops around the Liberian border and Swa'Sin city. We are going to catch those fuckers and END THEM.

    Give NeoTekz more time. We want this right.

    We should build two new reactors - one at the site of a new, secondary NeoTekz underground base to be built.

    I'm still totally clueless on the state of our broadband/fiberoptic network. Please inform about the status/distance of it.

    Also, would someone please explain the rules of this game to me? How many actions do we get/what's the "free action" stuff about? I'm new here.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)15:49 No.17804556

    I've just been using 'free action' to denote doing something that isn't discussed in Grand Leader's posts. Could I be doing it wrong? Maybe.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)15:56 No.17804636
    Get the testing done, and use a Thorium Reactor. Easier to acquire fuel.

    >Russian aid
    Thank Russia for the help.

    >Specops making a run for it
    Take them down! Chase them down with Hinds and our BTR's.

    Consider elderly care services, and state-run retirement homes.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)15:57 No.17804643
    >I'm new here.
    Read the archives. They're not too long.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)15:59 No.17804654
    I've read all of the DQ archives. I didn't see anything explaining a system or the like.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)16:00 No.17804673

    I don't think we've got a system, really. Maybe Grand Leader does. But fuck if I know.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/04/12(Sat)16:02 No.17804700
    no, no fiber optics. we're practically all old lines here. except swa'sin city and its cutting edge future tech

    Zanzia is interesting unique here... super low tech regions, super high tech regions, hodgepodge mix military.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)16:02 No.17804701
    Accept the excuses. For now.

    >Free Action

    Explains that Free Actions are things that can be done not related to what is in a report.

    It's not that hard.
    We react to events in a Status Report and pro-active actions are Free Actions.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)16:08 No.17804769

    Questions for clarification:

    I'd seen before that "free action" was something not mentioned in a post, but I didn't know if it was supposed to be something new entirely, or had to be related to a recent report (given the "unrelevant" [sic] part).

    So ... we don't comment on anything from old status reports, only the current one and one other "free action"?

    So the ZONES program .. was a free action move? And making broadband or fiber connections between the ZONES would be a free action move?

    Would the second underground base be a free action?

    Do we only get one free action per status report?

    I'm a noob to /tg/.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)16:10 No.17804792
    Suggest replacing rails and mechanical parts with diamond, unless anyone has a better materiel that can be used. Agree to start construction of thorium reactor if design changes cant be used to offset the energy cost of rebuilding the rails every time...

    How many of the other 2 parties were captured?
    If we don't have any prisoners than we should take a few alive, otherwise mobilize 2 attack copters, and a section of our light armor to the area.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)16:10 No.17804795

    I don't think it really matters, man. Just post some stuff you think it'd be cool for Zanzi to do. Chiiiiiill, brah.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)16:11 No.17804816
    > Marines -> Deltas or whatever

    We should have captured two or three of the ones who were wounded and left behind.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)16:14 No.17804853

    We did, I think.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)16:20 No.17804923
    We captured 2 unwounded and 3 wounded enemy spec-ops soldiers.
    So there's no reason to pull any punches with this third group.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)16:21 No.17804941
    Lets try them and hang them. UNLESS they can tell us something substantial regarding the US missile cruiser, what their mission was, ect. I doubt these guys will play ball however
    >> Balloon Bug Guy 02/04/12(Sat)16:27 No.17805033
    So, we have nano-technology, right? And we have hostile soldiers who have substantially damaged our infrastructure and brought death to our nation, right?
    I'd say try them, sentence them to death and then put them away to a discreet place to use them all as guinea pigs for budding human-nano experiments.
    Body armor, bone reinforcement, they have to be tried out some day. Better start early. Given that these guys are some of the most hardy guys on the planet, even better. They might even survive. Then we'd have a presentable prototype.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)16:30 No.17805076
    How do you not see how that could go horrible wrong? They'd break out and kill everybody!
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)16:31 No.17805089
    That sounds like a recipe for having a nano-augmented specops supersoldier break out of testing, destroy our nano-lab, kill our scientists, and abscond back to America with our nano-secrets.

    In short, a disaster.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)16:32 No.17805093

    >Trying out nanites designed for war on HOSTILE ENEMY SPEC OPS.
    >Not trying them out on volunteers from out own Special Forces.

    You sir, are retarded.
    >> Balloon Bug Guy 02/04/12(Sat)16:33 No.17805102
    By not being the stupid fuckhead that every TV villian is, of course. Ever watched Elfen Lied? Implant an explosive charge at the base of the skull. If we're going mad science, then we're going full mad science.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)16:35 No.17805126
    This seems like the dumbest idea ever. They are important POWS, not experimental subjects.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)16:35 No.17805132

    Why the fuck would we bother with HOSTILE SOLDIERS when we could just get VOLUNTEERS (this is important) From our OWN Special Forces.

    No fucking risk, who is to say the fucking nanites wouldn't say, fucking de-activate the bomb?

    Trying out SCIENCE that makes the user fucking hardy to kill on an enemy soldier with SPEC OPS training is the worst idea ever.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)16:36 No.17805140
    Ya..... lets just kill them.... I'm not saying that we shouldn't start some testing however, we can find some loyal volunteers from our infantry, keep it all hush hush, if anything bad happens they can be terminated and It never happened. This kind of thing is something only a select few of the Neotekz scientists should know about however. The fewer the better.
    >> Balloon Bug Guy 02/04/12(Sat)16:41 No.17805205
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    Okay, I admit you guys might have points there.
    (It was just too much of a delicious cliché to pass up.)
    Actually, some testing might be done on animals before going to humans. I can imagine armored and reinforced attack dogs. Or pic related.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)16:44 No.17805251

    Fund it
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)16:44 No.17805255
    Ya, might not be a bad idea before doing risky illegal testing....

    Lets only make this a priority for NT until after our rail weapons and lasers are ready
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)16:49 No.17805316
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    Or we could, y'know, instead of drastically altering the human body forever to make super soldiers that would only live for so-long. We could do relatively harmless and simple research such as exo-skeletal suits.

    Y'know, research that wouldn't be fatal as hell and if it DID work would permenately alter how that person lives their life?

    We can save transhumanism (except biotics) for when we actually need to prolong our life or when we start heading to space, where rapid bone and muscle deterioration is a big problem.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/04/12(Sat)16:51 No.17805329
    New post coming
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)16:57 No.17805407
    Well I guess you're right, but I'd kill and murder for an improved and strenghened body. I mean, jumping fifty feet high, lifting a car, never getting fat because the body just burns through all that food because of all the enhancements...

    Yeah. Even if you stop being a soldier you get to keep all that. That'd be a major incentive for our populace to join the military, if only for conscription duty.
    >> NavalAnon !!jz5JQZ1dN2Q 02/04/12(Sat)16:58 No.17805419
    Africa is Zeon.

    We need to go into space. We need to leave the Earth, this war is going to go nuclear very quickly, and Earth is doomed.

    Fundementally, if this is a NATO VS RUSSIA war the Earth is fucked. We need to focus on working on ABM systems, and then a way to get offworld..
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)17:02 No.17805469

    Yeah, but a soldier going into those experiments will MOST LIKELY had a fuck-ton of testosterone in them.

    Also, veteran soldiers usually have a shitty outlook once they are out of the military, which wouldn't transfer very well if they are forced into civilian areas.

    That soldier you just accidentally splashed with water from a puddle? He just tore your car in half.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)17:11 No.17805586
    You make good points, but this thing with the shitty outlook can be changed with some effort. Establishing a relief organization to help them cannot be so hard, especially since the veterans would be looked up to by the general populace for their duties.

    Also, I think its unrealistic to say that these guys will ever really be out of the military. Our military is *tiny*, ay old soldier who cannot go to battle anymore would probably just end up becoming a drill sergeant for training recruits. Even if they end up quitting, they'd probably end up in jobs where their skills can be put to best use. Like firefighters or policemen.

    Or simply this: when you leave the military, you are automatically in the militia. The militia is like a second police network. Your job is to sit on your butt or walk around the block where you live and watch out that no one breaks the law. When someone splashes water on you the, you get to sign him up for public service.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)17:12 No.17805607
    Exactly. It's not like we can say "Oh, your enlistments done. Now hand your skeletal, muscular and nervous systems in for decommissioning."
    >> APRIL 2018 - STATE REPORT Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/04/12(Sat)17:23 No.17805747
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    -Spec Ops team has been captured. 11 dead, 1 alive, and a NeoTekz VIP alive in zip-tie and gag. They were caught one day after ambushing one of the NT Scientists on the road between cities.

    -Air Defense is repaired and situated.

    -Zumwalt has been sighted far away, it seems our run in with the ship has ended.

    -NATO-Russian fighting has picked back up off the coast of the UK. Russian guided missiles have hit hardened targets in the UK. NATO and UK defense forces currently in a retaliatory fleet fight in the North Sea.

    -Swa'Sin city has been completed! The normally amazing news of a super modern, green, african city is being glossed over by the war news... the NeoTekz radio tower is completed.

    -EX-KGB guy suggests building two more towers, one to the north in Tropicstan, and another to the south east in Liberty. They could possibly be used to create a massive nanite shield... NeoTekz agrees but says their technology isn't ready for such a massive deployment.

    -Africa has been cured of AIDs by the majority. Europe and Asia swiftly following.

    -Rebels who surrendered earlier swear they have no hands in the fires or the attack on Liberty.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/04/12(Sat)17:24 No.17805765
    -Conscription is in effect. Populace isn't happy but generally accept it as necessary. Our military force should be about 80,000+ troops in training at this rate by next month.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)17:34 No.17805898
    >NeoTekz scientist
    Congratulate our soldiers on good work.
    Put the enemy soldiers on trial.

    Keep up patrols to keep it away.

    >Swa'sin City complete
    Commend everyone who worked on it.

    >Nanite Defense Towers
    Begin construction of the towers so they are ready when the technology is ready.

    Keep up building embassies to house our cure tanks.

    >Rebels and Fires
    Super Tucanos to maintain patrols to prevent other fires from starting.

    Exhort our citizens that we are no longer a defense-less nation who must depend on the protection of others. We can, and will, defend ourselves. We will stand up for ourselves, stand proud as a nation that can stand on its own.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)17:44 No.17806027
    >NeoTekz VIP
    See if he can tell us anything useful. This is proof that we need that second NeoTekz base/Area 51 ASAP.

    > Green City
    Heavily promote creation of high-tech educational resources through SC ZONES project. Free hands should start building a fiberoptic path to the next largest city.

    Build them, but keep NeoTekz focused on RaiLazer progress for now.

    >Auto-Immune Deficiency Syndrome cure tanks
    Look for next disease to combat. breast/prostate cancer?

    Bring candidates into training in Swa'Sin City so that they can see what we're building and protecting.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)17:45 No.17806032
    >AIDs cure
    Halt distribution of the cure to only select clinics in Africa. Save this until hostilities cool down, and we can SELL this to 1st world company for military and space technology!

    Approve building towers if workload is not to great.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)17:45 No.17806041
    >Look for next disease to combat. breast/prostate cancer?

    Influenza? I think that still kills a ton of people yearly.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)17:48 No.17806079
    I'm thinking that and cancer. Cancer, diabeetus, and heart disease should be the most profitable.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)17:48 No.17806083
    But that's due to lack of access, right? We should aim to cure things other medicine can't deal with effectively.

    >Free action
    Meet with India about trade agreements and more reactors. We can't only work with Russia.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)17:49 No.17806086
    You cannot cure such a virulent disease with a personal box though. We have to work with slow-acting, static diseases. How about Multiple Sclerosis or Leukemia?
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)17:50 No.17806098
    Speaking of foreign powers, we really need to check up on the Chinese. I just don't trust them.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)17:50 No.17806104
    But ensure that it never reaches America (or American citizens). American citizens suffering from the diseases will flee to non-belligerents in order to be cured, and be forced to renounce US citizenship. Shit would be cash.
    Only so long as the USA is a belligerent douchebag, though.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)17:50 No.17806105
    Heart disease would top my list.

    It could just be a little black box that pumps nanites into your bloodstream, taking care of blocked arteries, and strengthening the heart musclemen
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)17:51 No.17806110
    Occasionally they do fuck up which strain is going to be the most prevalent in the coming year and the vaccine isn't effective, IIRC.

    Though yeah we should probably find something that kills a lot of people AND doesn't have effective treatment.

    Also, render antibiotics obsolete. Antibiotics are a losing battle as it is. Push for nanites as a solution to the drug-resistant superbug problem
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)17:52 No.17806125
    ^muscles :/
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)17:54 No.17806149
    We haven't even heard what China's position on the war is anyway. We also need to look into diplomacy with Brazil and India.
    I think it's essential that we increase diplomatic talks with Germany in regards to withdrawing from NATO. [spoilersdontworkontg] We can't win a world war without Germany. [spoilersdon'tworkontg]
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)17:57 No.17806185

    I'm calm, just using caps to get the message noticed.

    OP, what's the language fluency like in our country?
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)17:58 No.17806198
    I'm thinking it may be time to change that. We could build up our military for the dramatic reveal.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)18:01 No.17806230
    what would be the advantage? we would loose our ONLY edge over the major powers... I'm not seeing it.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)18:01 No.17806237
    Not until we have NT secret base #2. We need to have a totally secret R&D base. We revealed our hand too much with the "marine" incident.

    Speaking of, we need a greater crackdown on leaks & corruption. Someone armed those men and helped them break out.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)18:02 No.17806252
    Well, the object is to keep the world from self-destructing. We pull out our unstoppable superweapons and calmly promise to destroy any aggressors.
    >> Balloon Bug Guy 02/04/12(Sat)18:04 No.17806271
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    Because that worked so well the last time the superpowers have pulled it, right?
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)18:05 No.17806283
    There are enough nukes around that stuff won't happen too quickly.

    Besides, we still need our own satellites before we can have enough intel to use our weapons well.

    And I'd like to make SC a mecca for tech enthusiasts before other countries forbid travel to us.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)18:06 No.17806296
    I want to say that's impossible, but I would actually be pretty happy to have the game end this way.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)18:06 No.17806299
    Haven't we been pushing for being basically peaceful, altruistic, benevolent, and harmless pretty much this whole game? Education, economics, healthcare, green energy...

    Why do we need to play world police all of a sudden?
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)18:08 No.17806316
    To keep the rest of the world from getting fucked up. If we didn't want to be altruistic, we could just sit back and watch our rivals destroy each other.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)18:09 No.17806331
    Africa colonized the rest of the world once, it can do it again.
    >> Balloon Bug Guy 02/04/12(Sat)18:09 No.17806332
    Then you're too gullible. It wouldn't work. Someone will always try to subvert or disrupt this kind of action as can be seen easily in history.

    Which is the point I'm trying to get to. We have built up that image, we should stay with it. Fucking fighty idiots, keep it down. Let the others punch themselves out, we'll pick them all up in the end and fix them up good.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)18:11 No.17806347

    More or less, this.

    I'm ready to start open war if we're pushed to it, or assassinations if they're worthwhile, but I'd rather build up a power base while also making us popular worldwide.

    It's more difficult to attack a universally popular country than it is to attack a powerful one that no one knows about.

    The reason that I wanted the ZONES projects is because it will draw people to immigrate, allow us to make low-cost entertainment and products to export that give us a positive image, and stimulate innovation.

    The military benefits of the system are secondary in my mind.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)18:13 No.17806366
    Putting yourself in an autocratic position over who lives and who dies in the entire world is going to make everyone hate us. Most people want to be left alone to run their own damn countries.

    We are not the US.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)18:14 No.17806384
    Okay, fair enough.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)18:18 No.17806420
    >Free Action
    Have NeoTekz search for a new, secure location to build another research lab for weapons research.

    And for those idiots calling to build it in the middle of the Sahara, that would require going through the airspace and borders of other nations.
    Idiots. Take a look at a goddamned atlas first.
    >> Balloon Bug Guy 02/04/12(Sat)18:21 No.17806467
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    Says the woman who's been screaming for blood the entire last thread.

    This thing can be seen form a much more detatched perspective. There is so much to gain from just pulling a Switzerland / Yuri Orlov combination. Sell guns to everybody, run the infrastructure for everybody, infiltrate their economies, just watch while they beat each other over the head with sticks.

    Then build the destroyed countries back up from the ground with Zanzian tech.

    Like a Yagami who refuses to kill. Feels good, men.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)18:25 No.17806517
    I was JUST thinking about a Switzerland angle.

    And I'm still screaming for blood. If I write it into every post, it will go from "old news" to "shut the fuck up". My position hasn't changed. We get the right plan in place, and we strike ruthlessly.

    I always said we should aim for /people/ if possible, not bases.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)18:29 No.17806560
    >I always said we should aim for /people/ if possible, not bases.
    This is the kind of shit why people rant at women to get back into the kitchen.
    International politics just doesn't work that way. Not even the nukes of the Cold War were aimed at cities, all of them were targeting military bases. You stop this dumb bumfuckery right now before you run Zanzia in the ground.
    And to clarify, it is already way past the STFU point.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)18:30 No.17806580
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    relax. Gus frabba.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)18:39 No.17806680
    We don't target civilian populace on purpose. That shit stopped being cool after ww2 (and even in ww2 striking a target solely for killing civilians didn't happen that often).

    Target industrial and military targets. If we do some collateral damage that is regrettable, but shit happens.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)18:44 No.17806726
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    To be honest, that shit was never cool to begin with. Back then people just didn't get informed about how their soldiers just slaughtered fifty thousand people like pigs.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)18:53 No.17806829
    Yeah but ww2 is one of the few occasions where it happened quite a few times on large scales, with the respective leaders being aware or ordering it, and committed by nations that one would call the height of civilization of their respective time.
    Hence it was kind of cool with them.

    Anyways, doesn't really matter if it was ever cool, Zanzia certainly doesn't do that kind of shit.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)19:01 No.17806924

    - We've been fabbing copies of our military gear to supply our troops, right?

    - Also, did Neotekz ever give us the feasability of our nanite-based very large array system for anti-stealth detection?

    - Step up patrols along all borders citing US actions in country, see about fabbing a second AWACS and another 1 or 2 refuelers, see if we can maintain 24 hour air watch without needing SAM radar active.

    - Have 1st Battalion help integrate 2nd and 3rd Battalions (Regular army, not conscripts) in a dedicated formation with their new fabbed gear. They won't be as good, but it should help.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)19:10 No.17807031

    Oh, before I forget.

    Have Neotekz and our Thorium teams work together to get another few Thorium reactors online, 2-3 in our Neotekz base, out of sight, and one more in country. We'll need to spread out our experts, but we should have enough people educated to be able to keep everything running. If necessary deploy army engineers to support this. This should give us a massive energy surplus to support our nanite-based defensive and railgun based offensive operations, as well as capacitor charging power in preparation of our laser deployment.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)19:13 No.17807077
    As for the actual facility, I think it's time for some good old fashioned North Korea style tunneling.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)19:14 No.17807088
    How about we TAKE the NANOS...
    ...and use them on the REACTORS?

    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)19:15 No.17807106

    so, the reason so much energy is need for the railguns, is that nanites would have to constantly be in service to repair the rails.
    But, because we can fabricate rails out of any material, I suggested diamond rails, or at least diamond plated rails, which would reduce friction and maximize service length for the rails, all while cutting down on energy needs for the nanites.

    Is there any reason this would not work?
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)19:19 No.17807148
    I'm not sure how much energy it takes to put Carbon atoms in that configuration, but it could be a lot. Also, diamonds are flammable.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)19:22 No.17807187

    Diamonds aren't conductive in the way that rails are, to my knowledge.

    We just need a system that WORKS, not works PERFECT.

    PERFECTION is the enemy of GOOD ENOUGH. We need a functional system that can keep the nation safe, not a system that works flawlessly. First gen railguns and lasers need to be out there and working, even if only for a short time before replacement, so we have breathing room to properly develop 2nd gen systems for tanks, aircraft, and proper defensive weapons and long-range artillery.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)19:27 No.17807261
    Only the inner core of the rail would have to be conductive, so if we could find a material that increase the rails longevity it would save us from having to dedicate an entire reactor to our weapons grid. Or at least not more than one.

    Anyways, Im just bouncing ideas around here
    >> Not completely retarded 02/04/12(Sat)19:29 No.17807279

    But figuring out diamond rails would require more work than just figuring out rail replacement, and we would likely need both for diamond rails.
    from a quick look at wikipedia, it looks like thay're normally a good insulator, except with certain varieties, where thay are semiconductive or even superconductive at extremely low temperatures. (<11 Kelvin)

    I'm inclined to go with aviationfag, lets get it working, then we can look at improvements later.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)19:33 No.17807317

    We're in a war now. We don't need super-perfect will work forever systems. We need quick and dirty, deployable near-immediately systems. So what if they break after 5-10 shots? We can fab up enough so that's all the need to fire. So what if they're power hogs? We fab up another couple reactors and roll brownouts if necessary. So what if they aren't quite as powerful as advertised? As long as they can down aircraft/ships/nukes whatever the program's goal is, ITS OK. We just need systems in place right now so we have the time to mature the technology without the threat of US or NATO fucking our shit up.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)19:34 No.17807329
    I'm thinking a lot of underground, hardened power facilities.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)19:36 No.17807356
    Haha, alright dudes!
    Its not like we can't just tell the nanites to build them differently at a later date
    >> Not completely retarded 02/04/12(Sat)19:39 No.17807393
    Sorry if I was unclear, i wasn't suggesting we make diamond rails or other major advances now, i was suggesting going along with your suggestion (using what works, rather than some untried diamond rails or other new untried stuff)

    TLDR: Aviationfag seems knowledgeable, lets listen to hin.
    >> Grand Leader Quest !tr.t4dJfuU 02/04/12(Sat)19:40 No.17807397
    Running dark heresy now.

    New post after it. 5-ish hours...
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)19:46 No.17807449

    It's cheap. It's conductive. It has a really low friction due to being essentially self-lubricating. it's for electrical contacts between moving parts for this very reason.

    Then construct the railguns so that the rails are quick and easy to replace.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)19:47 No.17807461
    If you guys want I can draw up a potential action plan based upon our current seeming consensus regarding what to do, so Grand Leader has an easier time reading what we need to do.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)19:48 No.17807472
    Fair enough. You seem to be best at articulating ideas.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)19:51 No.17807507
    Ya, that would be cool, so nothing gets left out.

    Seriously a lot of moving parts to consider in this scenario
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)19:53 No.17807533
    I just thought of something. We could really use some civil defense plans to keep our citizenry safe in the time before our nanotech stuff gets off the ground. Subway stations/bomb shelter and all that.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)19:58 No.17807577
    Ok, based upon our current tech and seeming want to pay the US back a little for their attacks on us, I'll daw a plan based around defense with long-range attacks on their military bases and industry.

    Phase 1: Using our nanites, we fab up enough tanks and BMPs/BTRs to arm up our regulars, and enough weapons to arm our conscripts. We also fab up a bunch more Thorium reactors to provide power for later operational phases.

    Phase 2: After prototyping and testing is complete, we begin deploying 1st gen railguns and lasers, and potentially our Very Large Detection Array (If it is both feasible and easily deployed)

    Phase 3: We begin working on an intercontinental rail-launcher designed to be able to hit with only a 10-100m deviance, if necessary using guided munitions, and hollow out a mountain to serve as a firing point.

    Phase 4: Hopefully by this point 2nd gen lasers are arming our aircraft and we're beginning to phase in railguns on our conventional army, but if we aren't, oh well. Operational Phase 4 is the targeted destruction of US military bases and industrial centers with our new ultra long ranged rail-artillery. After we begin, we demand the US surrender to us, and begin moderating peace talks.

    This is a VERY broad plan and is based upon us being ignored. This is NOT a worst case scenario plan. This is a general operational plan based upon simply holing up to get our new technology online to a point where we can strike at our foes with impunity while not being struck back. With the US currently busy, the most forces I think we can expect in an attack are a US CBG and MEU, alone, perhaps with airlifted army support if they gain a beachhead. I'd recommend nanite tower constructed along the shoreline ready to terraform our coastline in a defensive wall that would make Normandy look like a frolic.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:03 No.17807618
    I agree with this plan, with the addendum of the rail launcher being capable of putting satellites in orbit.
    I think that at the moment the most pressing matter is diplomacy though, but that doesn't take much resources. We should hire highly skilled diplomats to teach foreign relations courses in our university.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)20:06 No.17807652

    Our orbital lifter won't be in a hardened mountain facility. If anything, it'll be in our spaceport (That we have to build, mind you) outside of Swa'sin city, and where we'll build the base of our Space Elevator. But that's for AFTER the war. Right now, military projects first and foremost, philanthropism and advancing the human condition later.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:07 No.17807666
    >Demand US surrender
    ...Are we fucking serious here?
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)20:10 No.17807699

    At that point, we'll have intercontinental conventional weapons, anti-nuke lasers, and the ability to shitkick anything coming within 50km of our borders. So, yes.

    They set us on this path the minute they started throwing Tomahawks at us. Oh, sure, it might take a while, but after, say, destroying their naval bases in Maryland, they should simmer down.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:12 No.17807718

    If it comes down to it.

    The US -will- drown us in corpses if we threaten their country, and the citizens will support drowning us in their own blood.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)20:12 No.17807721
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    Yes. We are FUCKING SERIOUS.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)20:12 No.17807723

    My bad, I thought Hampton Roads was Mayryland. Replace Maryland with Virginia. Basically, I'm saying we wipe Pendleton, Hampton Roads, and Bragg off the map first, and then move on to Lockheed and Northrop Grumman.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)20:13 No.17807728
    Ok, this looks like a good list to work on over the next few months. I don't think we even have the 1st gen lasers yet however, and the plan was to install them at the same time to defend our Mega Rail from US attack... So since it looks like we will be getting the rail gun before the lasers, we are definitely going to wan't to hold off on using it offensively until the laser orbital lasers are up.

    Again, security has to be our governments 1st priority while all this top secret research is going on
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)20:14 No.17807745
    We're working on lases and railguns simultaneously, but the anti-ship railgun will be up first. We should hopefully have a limited-use laser ready by the time our ultra-large launcher is ready.
    >> Not completely retarded 02/04/12(Sat)20:18 No.17807791
    I think that we should hold of any public display of tech above cutting edge available to buy, unexplained tanks, planes, or other military assets, ect until we have our security increased to a much higher level.
    I think we should have neotekz build the weapons, but hide them underground until they're needed.
    Maybe they can build digging machines with their nanites, so we can build our defences underground without america seeing with their satellites.

    At the moment we're sot a major target beyond our oil production and aids cure, but once we show our hand with military supertech, the floodgate of specops will open, making what we just dealt with look minor in comparison.

    I say we buld and research, but all of it should be covert until we are sure of our security

    Can neotekz make spy nanites, something to watch people with security clearance high enough to know about the secret nanoprojects? maybe tiny cameras, microphones, or trackers?
    We cant afford to lose our only advantage
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)20:22 No.17807834

    I already suggested nanites cameras, but to form a very large array to detect incoming stealth fighters.

    the US is ALREADY targeting us, but we should get everything up and force them to heel now, while the rest of the world is busy with the brewing WW3. If they send ALL THE TROOPS at us, our allies will have an opening to attack them in the flank or rear. This is the BEST time to deploy our tech in force, because our enemies can basically only go "Welp, time for nukes/specops".

    If we have to, offer additional AIDS boxes and a first look at our cancerbox once its done in exchange for Spetsnaz to protect our country.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)20:28 No.17807913
    This is what happens when you let military fanatics run your national policy.

    Apparently /tg/ isn't as smart of a board as its outside image suggested. I'm still shocked that people are looking up to him to make major decisions just because he knows a ton of military weapons and shit.

    Then again, I also didn't expect people to assume that I was a woman, consider national education to be mostly an afterthought, and have an "attack first, ask questions later" mindset in general.

    /b/? Obviously. /tg/?

    I expected more from people who play games founded on nuance and strategy. I guess there are more munchkins and power gamers here than not.

    I think I'm going to sit out until after Zanzia is being obliterated. The people are already going to be starving and restless if more fires break out, and strikes on enemy bases will just piss off American citizens who will fall into mass group identification.

    Remember that I was the one who said to attack the responsible people in government, rather than what could be painted as defense stations. People are going to forget about Zanzia's good work within a month.

    I feel like George Carlin right now.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)20:30 No.17807939
    Well, they'll probably declare war on us either way. It would be stupid to have this big of a trump card (nanites) and not use it.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)20:32 No.17807960

    Oh? Then what's YOUR plan to get America to stop throwing SF forces and cruise missiles at us? In a real, TOTAL war, both countries ENTIRE populations are involved. The US seems to be pushing for such a war, and if they go for it, we HAVE to meet it. By pre-emptively destroying their industry and major bases, we greatly hamper their ability to train new personnel, service their gear, and build replacements. I'm planning on the basis that no matter what, the US *will* try to blow us up. Whether that's with a couple Zumwalts, or a full invasion, I don't know. But it will happen.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:33 No.17807969
    I don't think we need all these doomsday weapons, guys.

    We're trying to be at least semi-nice here; let's stick to that. Building lasers and railguns, sure, that's fine. But I don't think we need intercontinental "fuck you" weapons. The better way to deal with this is to make sure we really can't be invaded.

    Because, in all fairness, this IS still America we're dealing with here. If they can't beat our superweapons, they're undoubtedly better trained and better armed than we are. We don't need that amount of death on our hands.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)20:35 No.17807997

    The problem is the US thinks our AIDS cure is a crock, and they're pissed we decided that they can't smuggle whatever, and arrested their SF, impounded their gear and bleeding edge quantum computer. Then they bomb our capital, their SF tries to kidnap our citizens, and they'll probably deny it all.

    Also we're in autosage.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:36 No.17808021

    If it gets to the point of a total war, Zanzi vs. America, it really won't matter how many lasers we've got. It's fucking AMERICA. With the way America is (widespread unrest at home), and the way we are (regarded pretty positively across the world), I'd say the better way to do this is play defensively, and wait for the American government to collapse.

    Get these lasers and railguns up, tell America not to fly anything over us, or sail within such-and-such a range of our borders, lament the government's willingness to put the state over their people's wellbeing, and keep developing humanitarian uses for this nanotechnology - that's how we'll win.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:37 No.17808029
    The fact that they kidnapped one of our top NeoTekz personnel means that they know that our AIDs cure isn't a crock.
    They've probably gone back through the news, realized what it was that NeoTekz was working on, realized that we have working nanotechnology, and will attempt to steal it at any cost.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)20:38 No.17808046
    Something is only a trump card when you have control over when - and how - you play it. Most of you are treating this simple tech and small research facility like it's a magical "Do anything" box. NT is at capacity right now, and is producing tech there's not enough energy to maintain.

    Three threads ago or so we were talking about the need to stimulate sympathy for Zanzia and the US protesters abroad. The US was caught up in dealing with riots.

    All of that was forgotten once the marine stuff happened. This is like 9/11 happened or something - most of you turned to weapons and attacking right away.

    I know that I probably bothered far too much with throwing things out first and then explaining over a series of posts - tl;dr and all - but a good chunk of people have been talking about Other solutions for awhile. And we made a pretty good effort to accommodate Aviationfag, who just used capslock and called people idiots and douchebags.

    It's funny to me that there's clear annoyance with the way the US does stuff in-game, but this place is full of US attitudes metagame.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)20:41 No.17808076

    We're already at war, though, its just total war that isn't in force, yet.

    Did we ever formally declare war on the US for their unprovoked attacks on us? Or at least get on the air and publicly rebuke them for the Zumwalt thing?

    I'm not saying we can't wait them out, but I'm planning for a military WCS, so I'm putting the total-war intercontinental artillery on the table. If the US invades before we have defenses up, and we're about to lose and have our tech fall into their hands, we can always suicide ourselves by fabbing nukes out the ass, and blowing ourselves to hell to deny them. (After, of course, sending our AIDS cure research to, say, Russia, some EU countries, and South Africa.)
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:41 No.17808077
    Just leave.
    The game was better without you. We did just fine before you, and we will continue to do just fine without you.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:41 No.17808083
    >But that's for AFTER the war.
    What the fuck? No! We can't field a modern army without GPS. You're missing the point.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)20:41 No.17808084
    I'm not saying we attack until we're built up. It isn't jingoism when another nation has committed an act of war on your soil.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)20:45 No.17808129

    We can't build the orbital lifter, though, until we have our deterrence up. If worse comes to worse, we can ask Russia for assistance. We don't even really NEED GPS guidance for our weapons systems, in a defensive war, our attacks will probably be against naval targets using ARH and TV guided AShMs, and SAMs and anti-air lasers. For navigation, we seem to be doing fine without it. Also, GPS systems do emit potentially detectable transmissions. The US is on top of the electronic warfare game, so, TBH, the less electronics we have broadcasting, the better..
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:45 No.17808134

    We're allied with Russia, remember. If we need to, we can use Russia's satellites.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:45 No.17808135
    We did not formally declare war, and I do not believe we have enough evidence that we could use to legally declare war.
    The special forces soldiers were disavowed by the US, so we can't use them.

    The tomahawks and Zumwalt are pretty damning, but we would need evidence of the cruise missiles being launched from the Zumwalt for the charges to stick.

    As for the Osprey, since no one survived, it wasn't engaged in active hostilities, and there isn't incriminating evidence, we can't use it.

    Sure, anyone and everyone will recognize that it was the US that attacked us. But legally, we probably don't have enough evidence we can use.

    I think turtling up right now is the better option.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)20:47 No.17808158
    I'd really like an explanation on that. What did my presence change that you don't like, exactly?
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)20:49 No.17808184
    That is some bullshit. The US and Britain are the only countries that have Tomahawks, and the Zumwalt and V-22 are only fielded by the US. Looks open and shut to me.
    It added your weeaboo, self-righteous bitching. Just leave, or at least stop namefagging.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:50 No.17808207
    An orbital lifter would be instrumental to a good deterrence system. Orbital lasers and such are only useful if they're, well, in orbit.
    Russians don't have nanotech, though looking it up they actually do have GLONASS.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:52 No.17808219
    >It added your weeaboo, self-righteous bitching. Just leave, or at least stop namefagging.
    Along with this, we have military and defense issues that must be sorted out, and our education system was working just fine before you attempted to introduce an experimental and untested education paradigm to our nation.
    Introducing it to Swa'sin City would have been fine, to test it, but you had it deployed to our entire nation without even attempting a feasibility study.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)20:52 No.17808227
    And I was calling for ambassadors to visit the US for 3 threads before that, and we've been stonewalled. Great leader has obviously planned for action events involving US confrontation... that's just the nature of the scenario, and i personally think we have played the game very well thus far
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)20:53 No.17808233

    We're not putting lasers in orbit. We're putting anti-orbit lasers on the ground as an anti-nuclear shield.

    We're not gonna TOUCH space-based weapons until we have stuff in space worth defending.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:54 No.17808246
    >That is some bullshit. The US and Britain are the only countries that have Tomahawks, and the Zumwalt and V-22 are only fielded by the US
    Yeah, I know.
    But what ISN'T bullshit in a courtroom? And an international one at that?

    We've gone to great lengths to make everything above-the-board and legal (aside from our President for Life status and our secret nanotech research). It would be uncharacteristic to throw that aside now.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)20:56 No.17808280
    And even the President-for-life bit was constitutional and supported by most of the population. It's closer to a constitutional monarchy than a true dictatorship. Right now, the important thing is getting the EU and China on our side, not some bullshit UN courtroom. International Law is kind of an oxymoron.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)20:57 No.17808288

    At the least, we have recording of a Zumwalt where it shouldn't be, and Tomahawk strikes in our capital after the guys who were smuggling US gear, broke out, in support of them. And a V-22 in our country unnannounced? World opinion, at least, can be swayed by that with the media getting full access. We also need to treat our POWs well, arrange interrogations of them (No torture, just days into weeks of questioning in between total isolation). everyone breaks. Its just a matter of time. We question them, at least 4 hours a day, about who they are, who they serve, who they work for. Ask them questions unrelated to anything every so often, or change up the questions subtly to catch them lying. But we WILL break them. Even if it takes months or years, we will break them.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)20:59 No.17808323
    This is fucking dumb. Why do we want to the top of everyones threat lists?
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)21:00 No.17808329

    Yeah. We do an expose on the attacks. Let international media cover it.

    Aviationfag, how set are you on those doomsday weapons? I'd really prefer we didn't make them; our political capital would be spent all in one go. Turtlemode and an attempt to work the American public into rebellion is, I think, a much better way to work this out in our favor.
    >> Not completely retarded 02/04/12(Sat)21:00 No.17808337
    Please either at least attempt to contribute to the discussion or kindly shut the fuck up.
    I like turtling, at least until we can shoot down missiles, aircraft, and possibly sattelites.
    Also, we should be careful of specops teams with nukes, as well as missiles if we go offensive.
    So far the us probably doesn't know we have the 'Build A Thing From Arbitary Materials' Magical nanoboxes, just medically effective nanites.
    They might not have considered the nanites to be especially important in a millitary sense, compared to their quantum computer, the russian base, and extracting their elite troops.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)21:02 No.17808359
    Specifically it's essential that we focus on diplomatic talks with countries such as Germany which are debating withdrawal from NATO. We should also push towards solidarity of the African Union against the US, riding on the fact that we've got the AIDS cure.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)21:02 No.17808368

    Fucking this.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)21:03 No.17808385

    The intercontinental railguns? I',m only suggesting them as a strike option that will work against the US. If we don't need to use them, we don't need to build them. I'd like to have the plans and ability, though.

    If we can do this without needing to go on the offensive, all well and good. But, well, always plan for the worst, and all that. I'd much prefer it if we can just get everyone to sit down and shut up while we cure all disease, but the US seem to think they can just waltz in and take our shit without penalty. We need to punish them somehow. At the least, we can deny any US government or civil service member access to our cures until they apologize and make reparations. The average US joe? Take a trip to Canada or Mexico and there you go.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)21:04 No.17808394
    The BBC did release the news, and we can offer to give them exclusive coverage as well as near-complete access to the soldiers involved.

    Maybe now that the shooting in the North Atlantic has died down, the world will pay more attention to what happened in Zanzi.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)21:05 No.17808407
    I'm honestly torn between turtling and a massive end-of-days military campaign. We should probably work on both a diplomatic and military build-up, and try to get the EU on our side. England and France are the real prizes as far as military allies are concerned.
    How censored is the US media right now? This seems like the sort of story they would eat right up.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)21:06 No.17808417

    Oh, alright. Yeah, having the plans available is fine. As long as we don't make that priority number one; number one is defense, right now.

    And that idea for withholding AIDs treatment for government officials is A+ material.
    >> Anonymous 02/04/12(Sat)21:08 No.17808455
    This. lets not go all railguns, lasers,and demanding the worlds superpowers surrender to us. That would be dumb.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)21:08 No.17808457
    Am I the only one thinking of commissioning a secret "sexual warfare" division to give enemy government officials HIV?
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)21:08 No.17808464

    Last thread it was apparently decided I was head military planner, so I'm planning a worst-case military campaign. I'm not as good at politics as I am planning air strikes or how to shitkick a nation in the happy-sack. You guys can work on that front, I'll think of what to do if an MEU and US CBG divert to take our tech.
    >> HayashiKawa 02/04/12(Sat)21:11 No.17808495

    So, people really are this simple.

    I always supported building up defense. There was wide support for the educational programs, and the model is already something that works in real life.

    This has been an interesting lesson in human behavior.

    The only way to come out of this happy is not to take part.

    Was that so hard?
    Righteous bastard signing off.
    >> generictripfag !!2gvSr5QNeFI 02/04/12(Sat)21:12 No.17808512
    This is why I was suggesting the Kilos and Brahmos system a few threads ago. It wouldn't be that hard to kill enough of a carrier battle group to ruin morale.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)21:15 No.17808549

    We couldn't AFFORD them then, though. Now we could afford anything with our cure-boxes, but we can't get them now. For anti-surface, a railgun is superior to a missile, since you can't really shoot down hypervelocity metal. Hell, we could probably start work on a hellbore program and have results inside of 100 years.
    >> Slushed 02/04/12(Sat)21:18 No.17808576
    Ya, ya i think so
    Were totally going to use the lasers to defend ourselves, weather or not we start disabling US Military capacity is up to them.

    Also, its just a game guys. If you have suggestion suggest away, by all means. Debate is good, but enough with the nasty vibrations
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)21:25 No.17808638
    We're also in autosage. It bears repeating. Should we make a new thread?
    >> Not completely retarded 02/04/12(Sat)21:28 No.17808674
    Sounds like a good idea.
    >> Aviationfag 02/04/12(Sat)21:35 No.17808756

    New thread.

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