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    524 KB Planetary Governor Quest TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)00:38 No.18282927  
    You are the newly appointed Planetary Governor of the planet Daysimir, following the previous Governors removal from office for corruption and failure to pay the Imperial Tithes.

    The world itself is somewhat larger than Terra and has gravity roughly 10% higher, along being notably richer in mineral resources, it also has deposits of several useful substances not found on Ancient Terra. It's population of 3 billion 32 million souls (The old Governor was fastidious about keeping up population census, if nothing else) is spread more or less evenly across the single inhabitable mega-continent of Daysimir, stretching from pole to pole and containing a wide variety of environments. The planet is dotted with smaller island chains and landmasses, but due to harsh climates they are populated only by research and weather-observation outposts, along with the occasional goat herd that remains only because they have no means of leaving.

    Aside from divergent continents the planet is practically the twin of Ancient Terra, having been terraformed and seeded with Terran life forms during the Dark Age of Technology, the planet has both a massive moon similar to Luna and a range of trace minerals nearly identical to Old Earth, meaning that the population of Daysimir, unlike most other planets in the Imperium, does not require regular supplementary pills to make up for trace minerals that the planet is deficient in.

    The Sector that Daysimir is located in is near the Eastern Fringe, but far enough away from both the Tau Empire and Ultramarine space to keep interference by both parties to a minimum. There are, however, several minor Xenos Empires, a handful of Eldar Exodite and Ork-held worlds, and a single Daemon world in the sector, along with the usual blend of competing Imperial authorities.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)00:39 No.18282944
    The people of Daysimir are a hardy and independent folk, heavily armed and used to telling authority figures to go to Hell when their interference becomes annoying, the old Governor was blocked from tyrannizing his people by fear of a planet-wide rebellion, and was thus limited to squandering tax money on a lavish palace and personal pleasures instead of holding his populace in an iron grip as he had intended. The Governor was eventually removed from power when he began cracking down on the ancient civil rights of the planets citizens. Imperial authorities in the sector feared that a successful rebellion (As the PDF had atrophied from constant embezzling of funds for several decades) would encourage unrest across dozens of worlds and removed him from office. The planet is also unusual in that most positions normally held by Techpriests are instead occupied by civilian engineers and technicians, leaving the Techpriests in control of only the most complex and advanced pieces of machinery and greatly reducing the amount of influence the AdMech holds over the planetary government. The population of Daysimir boasts both a very low rate of mutation and almost twice the number of Geneseed-Compatible citizens, making it a popular recruiting world for fleet-based Astartes Chapters.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)00:44 No.18283006
    >Invest heavily in the furtherance of technology and civil programs.
    The former for your own goals, and the latter for a happy populace.

    >What Asartes Chapters regularly recruit from this world? Any here now?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)00:46 No.18283037
    Wait wait wait, are we the sexy take-no-shit Admiral of the Imperial Navy or that measly old crony from the Administratum?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)00:48 No.18283056
    If I've learned anything from 40K books, we need to start worshipping Chaos immediately. It's part of the job.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)00:48 No.18283060
    We are His Grace,
    Laurent V, by the Grace of the God Emperor, Governor of Daysimir, King of the Continental Realms ., Archduke of CITY; Grand Duke of CITY and CITY, Margrave of the Outer Isles; Emissary of Terra, Consul of the Sector Senate (or whatever the conclave of planetary governors is called) and Supreme Patriarch of the Royal and Vice-Imperial house of Ivanova.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)00:50 No.18283088

    If there were, THEY'D be the Planetary Governor.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)00:51 No.18283094
    Are you sure that's it? Shouldn't there be a whole paragraph of titles or something? There's gotta be more to put in there, if only to see if whoever we introduce ourself to is paying attention.

    >Now how about hose astartes?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)00:52 No.18283109
    By all means, come up with more titles. That was just copy paste from the other thread.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)00:55 No.18283145
    Grand Poo-Bah of the Terry-Winkles and Progenitor of Snake Oil.

    So, are there options to choose from or are we just winging this whole thing?
    Also, can I get a link to that last thread? I'd like to catch up.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)00:56 No.18283158

    Perhaps send a request for the Sisters to start a mission on planet? They will keep the level of rebellion down and aid in civil stuff too. In addition, their normal squabbles with the mechanicus will be kept low by the low mechanicus influence.

    I'm up for improving education and inviting the Sisters to start a mission on planet.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)00:58 No.18283176

    Sounds cool to me. Could also be helpful with the fact there is a Daemon World in sector and several minor Xenos groups...and our PDF is pretty much non-existent.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:00 No.18283212
    inb4 Orks Waaaagh!! everybody dies
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:02 No.18283225

    Bringing the PDF up to standard wouldn't be a bad plan either. Perhaps, if we do the SOB thing, have them do coordinated training? So the PDF is better trained at working with and supporting the Sisters?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)01:02 No.18283232
    Please select a name:

    Please select your background:

    The Imperial Guard General: As the commander of one of the venerable Cadian regiments, you were a highly recommended choice for this position. Your military training ensuring that any would-be invaders would find themselves facing a determined and experienced enemy commander and that the planet will be run with military efficiency. The Regiment under your command will spend several months on your new planet training up the PDF (sorely needed after decades of neglect and under-funding by the previous Governor), resupplying, and recruiting to to replace losses before shipping out as the Daysimir 1st. Comes with the self-defense abilities expected of a Cadian General (You're a Badass) knowledge of the Imperium at large (particularly its armed forces) and knowledge of the various major enemies that face the Imperium, and bonuses to Diplomacy with any Imperial Guard Regiments you are working with. Perk: Old Friends (Response time for distress calls requesting military support is dramatically increased)

    The Aristocrat: As a leading member of the Noble Class or Central Bureaucracy on your homeworld, you were the natural choice for leadership of a planet. Although lacking the military experience or wealth of the General or Captain, your experience with diplomacy, inter-planetary trade, and politics should make up for it so long as you have competent generals on your staff to handle matters of defense for you. Comes with bonuses to dealings with the Adminstratum and House Guards to protect your person and home. Perk: Designated Red Tape Scissors, greatly reduces the amount of paperwork you have to wade through in dealings with the Administratum.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:03 No.18283246
    Do we have good PDF forces capable of defending us againts pirates?

    If not, I say we should make specialized forces capable of being gathered in a quick, prompt manner and countering pirate attacks, with a specialty on salvaging. We should always make money.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:05 No.18283264
    rolled 17 = 17

    Definitely General. Get PDF up to speed and then some. We need to make this planet entirely self sufficient in terms of economy, agriculture, and war. Primarily war.

    >Also, assess the amount of all other non-PDF forces in the area.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:07 No.18283294
    rolled 10 = 10

    +1 to being a General, but did you mean the response time is DECREASED, not increased?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:08 No.18283304

    Either General or Captain...I'm thinking Captain. I assume the Captain is at least slightly Badass?
    >> =Bb=[CO2cv-avs+hp] Sgt. Johann !HKPDfphS0M 03/11/12(Sun)01:09 No.18283315
    Laurent V, Aristocrat
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)01:11 No.18283343
    >>18283232 (cont) (Sorry about the wait, had to deal with IRL interference)

    The Captain: Although lacking the political experience of the Aristocrat or the military expertise of the General, your wealth and contacts in the Imperial Navy will prove to be useful in the days ahead. Comes with bonuses to Orbital Defense planning, +10% to starting Treasury and diplomacy bonuses when dealing with the Imperial Navy. Perk: Friends with Big Guns: You can call in a few favors for limited Naval support in situations when it would not otherwise be available.

    Lastly, choose the type of Government to institute:

    Democracy: One of the rarest forms of government in the Imperium, and also the best all-around choice. Keeps corruption to a minimum and greatly reduces the chance of armed rebellion and the influence that Tau propaganda will have on your populace. However, it will make certain Imperial authorities mistrustful of you.

    Dictatorship: The standard form of government in the Imperium, good for responding quickly to events and opportunities without civilian government weighing you down, but also greatly increases the chance of armed insurrection and the amount of corruption and waste in your administration.

    Corporate: The most lucrative form of Government in the Imperium and by far the rarest, Greatly increases your profits, but also comes with political backstabbing and the constant threat of being usurped by an intelligent rival, along with environmental destruction that is impressive even by Imperial standards.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:12 No.18283358
    rolled 79 = 79

    El Capitan, El Capitan!

    And Dictatorship. We run this world like a ship.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:13 No.18283366
    Elyssa von Braun, Captain
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:14 No.18283378
    rolled 2 = 2

    General and Democracy. We need a firm foothold on this planet without threat of being deposed.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)01:15 No.18283385

    Not at the moment, "popular for recruiting" means that one will show up every few hundred years or so. The Imperium is vast and the Astartes have many duties.


    I got rid of most of the options as they were weighing the thread down. Also, the old thread died after maybe six posts, this is a restart.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:15 No.18283391

    Ooh, von Braun. Seconded. Let's go with diplomacy.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:16 No.18283408

    Derp Democracy
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:16 No.18283409
    Another vote for Laurent
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)01:17 No.18283420

    Yeah, sorry.

    It appears we are tied between General and Captain with one vote for Aristocrat. If no one else votes I'll just go with a 50/50 roll.

    And yes, Captain does come with basic personal combat training, but nearly to the degree that a Cadian general has.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:17 No.18283424

    I think you mean Democracy. I say captain. Battles are won in space.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:18 No.18283427
    I suggest a gentle nudge in a certain direction then, if you can. Make it look like we have free agency, but word things to catch our attention, a la Chekov's Gun, so you an plan this at least somewhat ahead and don't have to deal with kooky randomness.

    Also, will that Poo-Bah title be added to the list?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:19 No.18283446
    Eh, was going to go for aristocrat...but its seriously outvoted about now. I'll toss in with captain. Democracy, because it's weird.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)01:21 No.18283465
    Scratch that, seems the new lead is Captain with Aristocrat in a close third. Also appears Democracy is winning by a fair margin. Any other votes?


    That's what I had planned. Also the titles will be added to the Aristocrat if he wins, since it's just easier to type "Aristocrat" than three paragraphs of titles (Although less fun)
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:21 No.18283471
    General and Corporate. Because fuck da police.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:23 No.18283497
    Aristocrat dictatorship
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:24 No.18283513
    Well, you wouldn't write it all the time, just whenever we/I/you introduce... us/me/idon'teven self.

    What pronoun should I use for a shared entity?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:25 No.18283521
    I rather like the idea of Aristocrat/Dictatorship.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)01:25 No.18283524
    We have Captain in the lead with General bringing up a close second. Going once, going twice...
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:26 No.18283530
    Us. We.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:27 No.18283554
    Just type it up once, and every time it comes up, quote it.

    Hello! I am >>18283060
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:28 No.18283559

    The Royal "We"
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)01:29 No.18283576
    If no one has any further votes, it appears Captain wins.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:30 No.18283592
    General and anything.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:30 No.18283596

    Ehh, I was one of the General guys, let's just go with Captain and get it over with.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:31 No.18283605
    General and maybe a mix of Dictatorship and Democracy. A planetary senate for minor local administration could serve us well, if the local administration is doing its job well there is no need for us to step in. We of course will matting a absolute control on the PDF and will be a the head of all adeptus level business as establish with the Pax Imperial.

    So for now lets go full Dictatorship with progressive implementation of democratic policies.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:34 No.18283646
    rolled 39 = 39

    Captain seems to have more benefits than General, and I think we should go Dictatorship, at least for now. Hopefully a beneficial one, but it is 40k.

    Are we just voting or is it by dice roll? Dice added, just in case.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)01:35 No.18283664
    Final tally by my lazy count:

    General 5

    Captain 6

    Aristocrat 4

    And we have our winner unless any last-minute voters appear.

    I have to go AFK for a while unfortunately, I'll be back in about an hour.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)01:36 No.18283675

    Make that 7 instead of 6.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:36 No.18283677
    Captain Elyssa von Braun sounds good to me.

    I'm okay with Democracy as well, but don't really care about the form of government.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:37 No.18283687
    >I'll be back in about an hour.

    Not the best way to keep interested in your Quest.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:37 No.18283695
    Brochaho, I would suggest making threads like these earlier in the day. It's night for the entire western hemisphere right now. Spring break is upon us, so you'll have plenty done in the weeks ahead, but posting when no one is around is no fun for everyone.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:38 No.18283701
    Okay then, Captain it is.

    Second this >>18283158
    use his contact to request the Sister's help. Just dont do anything remotely heretical, or we'll be seeing the captain wrapped in immolating fire or something
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:43 No.18283765
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    i came in late was going to vote general with some sort of post traumatic stress. could cray over to captain if that is what we are doing.

    mostly liked the idea of being a general so we can fight off assassins and be bad ass in combat.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:45 No.18283796

    True, true, true.

    But this way we can be Pickard.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:48 No.18283838
    I'd guess an admiral would still have quite a bit of combat skills. I always imagined there'd be a vivid tradition of duelling within the Imperial Navy and there's always the chance of being on the receiving end of a boarding action.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)01:50 No.18283859
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)03:04 No.18284038

    I imagine it is 'You are capable of combat but you are not quite as good as the General'. Not BAD, just not as good. Mind you, give us a ship and we would kick his ass. It's basicly 'General is better at ground, Captain at Naval'

    Lets get this done and go Captain I think.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)03:08 No.18284090

    Captain's already chosen, we're just waiting an hour for the OP to return, and probably decide on the government.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)03:10 No.18284101
    He was supposed to be back 30 minutes ago...
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)03:11 No.18284115
    Just stopping in to say I'll be back with you soon.

    Looks like Captain won, with Democracy being in the lead for government type.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)03:14 No.18284161

    Democracy? Fuck that, Dictatorship. More control.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)03:20 No.18284245
    am i coming in too late and the op long gone?

    throwing my hat in for aristocrat dicator
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)03:35 No.18284450

    Not gone, just out of the room for a while. Captain already won, and it looks like Democracy is in the lead currently.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)03:36 No.18284464

    What's the score?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)03:40 No.18284496
    Okay, final tally is Dictatorship 5, Democracy 4, Corporate 1.

    If there aren't any last-minute votes we're going with dictatorship.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)03:44 No.18284539
    Instead of making the choice exclusive, why don't you simply combine them.

    Let people vote for representatives to the dictator or their town officials while still remaing in charge where it's important.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)03:45 No.18284544

    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)03:47 No.18284558

    I like this idea. Think Empire from Star Wars, before he closed down the Senate.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)03:47 No.18284559
    Your samefag is showing.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)03:50 No.18284590

    The hilarious thing about it is that
    is a samefag. Me.

    That's not me.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)03:57 No.18284657

    Compromise sounds like a good choice.

    You will retain power, but the office of other officials and provincial governors will be selected by general election.

    You' arrive on your new world in mid-summer, you meet several local officials on the landing pad. They're all new leaders brought in after the previous Governors toadies were booted out into the street.

    The planets infrastructure, PDF, and Orbital Defenses,are in poor shape due to decades of underfunding and mismanagement under Rodoris the Sixth before he was deposed, there is much work to be done here.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)03:59 No.18284666
    That's... not very good. What does that planet have that's actually in good shape?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:01 No.18284678
    A warning OP. /tg/ is practically dead at this time of day.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:01 No.18284679
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    probably nothing. rebuilding infrastructure is a priority. Also what personality/ personal history are we going with for our planetary Governor?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)04:03 No.18284696

    You have an awesome Palace and a gleaming capitol made of a marble-like stone imported from several sectors away, which has become quite the tourist attraction in the local sector. You also have a very competent local labor pool and rich natural resources.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:08 No.18284723
    what does PDF stand for? Planet defense force?

    Well, since we are a capltain, I assume we know how space trade works? I think we should set up profitable trade-routes to rake up capital.
    Another thing to do: root out corruption entirely. Administer harsh penalty to the corrupt pigs (death for the worst offense, penal colonies for the lightest)
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)04:09 No.18284730

    You order resources diverted to rebuilding planetary infrastructure.

    I was going to leave all the minor details up to you guys,
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:14 No.18284762
    Seems like we'll spend our first few weeks here reviewing the previous guy's mistakes.

    Meeting the people's delegates is probably a necessity as well.

    I think we'll require quite a bit of hand holding from you. Absolute freedom in a quest doesn't tend to work too well here. We need more substantial goals than "make stuff better" most of the time.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:19 No.18284794
    what levels of infrastructure are already in place?

    I'm talking major transitways, communication, in-city build-up of roads and other utilities, level of urban sprawl

    what is life like for the common citizen, the burgher ('middle-class' landowners), the merchant, and the rich?

    what are the primary resourcing operations in play? and what can be exploited?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:23 No.18284807
    also, what sort of service-level businesses are prominent? id est, privatized economic ventures, single-aspect FedEx types, mom-and-pop general and specialist stores, mercantile retail chains, mega corporations with interests in several areas?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)04:31 No.18284859

    Planetary Defense Force. It's the standard front line defense in the Imperium and the force that the Imperial Guard is usually recruited from.

    The Administratum has done a good job of cleaning out corruption in the worst cases, but there is still a lot of work to do. You have competent people get on it right away.

    You don't have any ships at the moment, but for 6% of the Planetary Treasury you can buy a Trading Fleet of 12 ships, and for 9% you can outfit them with defensive weaponry to deter and fight off pirates. Local trade routes are...troubled, but lucrative if you have the strength to defend your cargo.


    The mistakes of Rodoris the Sixth are many and varied. It will take a while to sort them all out, but the major ones are neglecting Planetary Defenses, both ground and Orbital, in favor of building a massive palace, a beautiful capitol city, and shiny statues of Rowboat Girlyman everywhere to suck up to the Ultramarines, the last of which soon wore away due to the stone they were built of being very sensitive to certain metallic elements in the rains of Daysimir. The Ultramarines were less than impressed, to put it lightly.

    As for the directions thing, I have a few plot-lines waiting to be seen if you look around a bit, I also have a few that will come to you even if you just focus on improving infrastructure.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:35 No.18284875
    Considering our planet is still in a rather nice shape, would it be possible to relocate our heavy industry into orbit or to the moon?

    How much of our yearly income would 9% of the treasury be?
    If it's not too much, I'd say we should go for the armed trading ships.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:38 No.18284898
    I say 9% is worth it for a trade-fleet that will supply us constantly with money.

    You said that the palace and the capitol attracts tourists, right? Is there a chance we could sell some of the luxurious shit that the previous governor bought without lowering tourist rating?
    We will benefit well from tourism, we should encourage it further.

    >but there is still a lot of work to do. You have competent people get on it right away.
    Of course, we should also keep tabs on 'competent people'.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:38 No.18284901
    I think the 9% is an upgrade on top of the 6%, so the grand total for a trading fleet capable of defending itself would be 15%

    I suggest we ask our Academy buddies to second a patrol squadron or two to escort our traders until we can outfit them

    ameliorating the strain on the economy over several years will allow more to be done and more effectively than ramping up one aspect at a time
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:39 No.18284910
    agreed, can we ask the local Arbites Precinct to carry out low-level observation and investigation of our own agents?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:40 No.18284915
    I'll take Imperial General and Democracy.

    We need to keep the people happy and ready. I think nationalism on a planetary scale (planetism?) and of course, painting the rest of the Imperium in a positive light that does not allow for sedition toughts would lend us a nice armed and always ready population to eventually reclaim the full sector.

    We'll need a strong defense fleet and a PDF trained and equipped to the standards of the Imperial Guard itself, to ensure it we need to have a good relationship with the techniggers of Mars.

    I think I'd establish a council of sorts to always be with me and make quick decisions without somebody going apeshit over them, made up of the single highest ranking members of the Mechanicum, the Ecclesiarchy, military, and civilian authorities.

    Trade and good relations with Ultramar are essential, for both the potential aid in a dire situation as well and the benefits to our economy.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:41 No.18284923
    *constant low-level observation

    I don't want any agents of any person jumping to exceptional claims without a long list of evidence of foul doings behind the accusations and vice versa
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:43 No.18284931
    sry, but OP declared Captain with a Democratic dictatorship to be the winner a while ago
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:46 No.18284947
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    Trading Fleet
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:49 No.18284960
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    Probably more like this.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:51 No.18284972
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    I want to believe
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:53 No.18284977
    I know that we are buying ships now but can we build our own orbital ship-yards later?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:55 No.18284990
    Maybe we can turn our moon into a battle station with ship building capacities?

    Much much later on, of course.
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    You want a way to ensure the safety of the planet? Two words, OP: Nan Yanoi.

    You have a moon and a fuckload of minerals, put those to good use.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)04:57 No.18285007
    Turn the Luna-analogue into an orbital fortress and mega-shipyard, deplete her of most of her mass to both keep the moon in orbit and fuel the immense need for resources.

    Let's see anybody mess with the new capital of the sector.

    >long term plans , jpg
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)05:06 No.18285056
    Okay, I'm a slow typer and I've had to keep getting up to deal with shit, but we should be free from interruptions now. Just give me a few minutes to deal with the questions backlog.


    Rodoris actually had it pretty good before he fucked everything up. Planetary infrastructure is actually pretty good for a standard Imperial world. You have extensive roads (Which have fallen into disrepair) a major spaceport (One of the few things that haven't been neglected) Enough local industry that you're almost self-sufficient (Mostly in pretty good shape due to mostly being privately owned) and a system of Plasma reactors that supply cheap, clean power to the masses(Not in that bad shape due to the danger of exploding if they're neglected, but not running at full efficiency either) and a fairly standard communications network for a Civilized World (Think modern day, but minus Internet).

    The population of your world is spread more or less evenly across the single inhabitable continent, mostly rural with small towns and settlements spread out between small to mid sized cities that serve as hubs of Trade and Industry (Aside from your capitol, which is a massive metropolis with a population of several million). Your citizens live mostly on their own land, many of them making a living as farmers. In general, just picture backwoods redneck types from any first-world country, but better educated, more tolerant of other people, and with access to over-the-counter cancer cures and Cybernetic replacements for the better off citizens. Also laser rifles. The rich people are divided into two categories: The owners of factories, logging companies, hospitals, utilities, and other industrial and civil businesses, and the previous governors Toadies, who are now starting to feel the pinch without constant tax breaks and handouts in exchange for kissing ass.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:16 No.18285107
    Install shipbuilding machinery in prisons and introduce a rehabilitation program under which the cons operate it in severed consciousness state.

    Then start busting dissidents and lower tier criminals every which way.

    Spaceship manufacturing +
    Prison-Industrial-Rehab complex +
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:20 No.18285133
    do we need to give input or are you just typing? Since we gave a couple of suggestions already.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)05:29 No.18285172
    The primary resources of your planet are mineral, including several rare metals such as Admantium and a few light metals used in very advanced electronics.

    The economy of your world is doing fairly well, and is actually starting to boom without Rodoris interfering with shit. There are businesses of almost every kind, but nothing really big enough to be noteworthy on a planetary scale aside from a mining syndicate in the southern area of the continent.


    You could move heavy industry into orbit, but it would be somewhat cheaper to purchase anti-pollution devices from the AdMech. They're widely available but most Governors just don't give a fuck.

    With standard Imperial taxes instead of the "I might just be trying to get lynched" taxes the previous Governor instituted, annual income is around 8% before Tithes, 40K ships are *Fucking Expensive*. Oh, and just for future reference, the cost is the TOTAL cost of what you're buying with, so a fleet capable of self-defense would cost 9% in total.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:30 No.18285175
    we can start in with basic manufacturing equipment the production of Lunar class cruisers. they can also be used with cons as basic crew to meet imperial tithes and maybe 1 or 2 can be used for convoy escort.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)05:31 No.18285181
    Tourism is, in fact, one of your main locals industries. A lot of the famous pieces of artwork, expensive museum pieces, and the statues of Rowboat that were inside can be sold off for an astonishing profit equal to 23% of your total treasury, and that isn't even touching the items that are on public display the or vast collection of ancient tomes that you have a gut feeling might come in handy someday soon, which comes to *63% of the value of your treasury in total*. You are astounded by how much money he sunk into stuff kept behind security checkpoints and locked vaults.

    You can have a navy attachment or two escort your Trade Fleet for a year or so, but considering how...interesting the sector is at the moment you will owe them a few favors down the line.

    The Arbites are more than happy to keep tabs on your Agents and make sure no accusations are made without sufficient evidence. You find out that that Rodoris had been bribing their immediate off-planet superiors to keep them from shooting his ass, and they are happy to be actually doing their jobs for the first time in 20 years. Many were on the verge of going against orders and just assassinating him anyway. You're getting the felling that the situation on Daysimir was more volatile than the Imperial authorities have let on...


    Just give me a second to get caught up.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:31 No.18285182
    Holy shit, even with Rodoris' mismanagement, this world is Edenic by grimdark standards.

    extensive roads (Which have fallen into disrepair)
    >begin repairing and upgrading the roadways between major economic hubs first then work our way out into the boonies, this'll maybe take a decade for the major upgrades without pinching the citizenry into poverty; minor roads can be patched up, but otherwise left subpar until the later stages of reconstruction
    a major spaceport (One of the few things that haven't been neglected)
    >consolidate the spaceport infrastructure and look into expanding this port and building others should our trading efforts bring in more shipping
    Enough local industry that you're almost self-sufficient (Mostly in pretty good shape due to mostly being privately owned)
    >keep it that way, maybe a tiny 1% or 2% hike in taxation, but we should have the provincial authorities put the millage up for a civilian vote; we won't see universal acceptance, but the people that think it a good idea should go along happily with the hike; set the millage increase to expire if not renewed after a decade or so
    a system of Plasma reactors that supply cheap, clean power to the masses(Not in that bad shape due to the danger of exploding if they're neglected, but not running at full efficiency either)
    >begin a systematic repair of the most primary reactor stations first, similar to the road repair, it could take up to a century to get this finished; look into expanding the number of reactors to bolster PDF bunkers and counter-orbital installations
    a fairly standard communications network for a Civilized World (Think modern day, but minus Internet).
    >keep it that way, we all know the internet leads to chaos worship
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:32 No.18285187
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    Laser rifles.
    >send inquiries to the Mechanicus Enclave about disseminating production of better-grade of lasguns and their derivatives; bring new models into PDF and Palace Guard units while putting current 'inferior' stock into civilian markets and private manufacture; limit features on models being sold off to civilians to lower rates of fire (eg assault weapons ban) and require permit for the more 'killtastic' options
    The rich people are divided into two categories: The owners of factories, logging companies, hospitals, utilities, and other industrial and civil businesses, and the previous governors Toadies, who are now starting to feel the pinch without constant tax breaks and handouts in exchange for kissing ass.
    >pay successful companies a small subsidy to send over staff to advise and train (and report to you on their progress or lack thereof) the failing 'Toady' interests, see if we can't make them productive and self-sufficient; second incorruptible Arbites to these liasons, if possible, to prevent the liasons from being compromised by any scheming from elements in the toady companies
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:33 No.18285196
    oh, oops, sorry; I got a little excited
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:35 No.18285204
    >You are astounded by how much money he sunk into stuff kept behind security checkpoints and locked vaults.

    Those are bunch of luxury products that have no practical value, right? Tomes, I can understand, these we keep, but the rest of the stuff is pretty useless to us. I suggest we sell luxurious shit, not on the public display just enough to pay for outfitted trade-fleet (the one that costs 9%). Then sell enough to generate 1% and use that money to repair infrastructure.
    The rest we will keep for emergency situations or something.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:36 No.18285209
    >The rest we will keep for emergency situations or something.

    That stuff tends to increase in value as time goes on. It's probably not worst kind of investment we could have.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:38 No.18285215

    >Tourism is, in fact, one of your main locals industries.

    We need an interplanetary advertising agency on that, stat!

    Also, where do we stand on gambling and free economic zoning laws?

    Mah gawd, we have stumbled on a goldmine here, boys.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:40 No.18285228
    Since this is a terra-like planet, we could produce luxury products and export them, right? Not many planets have this kind of environment, so we could exploit this to sell things to less-fortunate planets.
    Also, pharmaceuticals. We could make these too.

    I say we encourage the growth of these industries.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:42 No.18285234
    maybe even treat a few Chartist Traders and Rogue Traders to the common delights of our humble world?

    free advertising and the political boon of of well-treated friends and all of that
    >just don't truck about in the cold trades and such; maybe turn a blind eye to possession if the man is reliable and brings good trade, but no selling within our borders or the Lex Imperialis starts getting loaded into the legal catapults
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:43 No.18285237
    but gambling is a ripe ground for crime and corruption!
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:43 No.18285241
    we have commonly available onco-cures, so pharmaceuticals wouldn't be a bad area to advance
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:44 No.18285243
    We should see if there's a Sister of Battle order that would get along with our planet's populace and their traditions.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)05:45 No.18285257

    Infrastructure upgrades have begun, there is some grumbling about the tax hike, but for the most part they're just glad you're not Rodoris.

    You send out your proposal and get flat rejection across the board, along with several messages stating that if you want to prop up the Toadies their heads are going to go on pikes. According to your information gatherers this is not an idle threat, as several prominent businessmen in Rodoris' pocket were indeed found sans a body and mounted on crude wooden spears on some backwoods road during the early days of his rule. The local businessmen seem to be closer to "clean" mafia families than normal company owners.
    It sounds feasible enough. You file it away under "long term plans"
    >> Faculty of Organization and General Affairs 03/11/12(Sun)05:46 No.18285261
    sounds like a plan

    should we all take on monikers relating to our area of interest to help OP pick through the posts? if yes, can I pick the moderating aspect?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:49 No.18285274

    Hehe, see motion


    Senators, can i have your ayes on the Working Rehabilitation Bill with the Gambling Zoning amends attached?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:55 No.18285302
    huh, they aren't even interested in getting paid for the job of whipping the toadies into shape?

    well, the least we can do for those incompetents is to keep them alive; gather our best orators to compose a speech about turning away from Rodoris' era of favoritism and self-indulgence and bringing our best capacity to the fore in order to support the beleaguered states within the greater territories of the Glorious Imperium of Man and drive out those forces that seek to overthrow the Emperor's Divine Mandate and subjugate their fellow men. The people will make this world a shining example of the Legacy of Men and prosper duly from their efforts, and [We] will do everything in [our] power to help achieve that future alongside them. etcetera etcetera
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)05:56 No.18285303

    Done and done.


    From what you've learned of the political situation on Daysimir, that would be a very bad idea unless you could keep it an absolute secret. Apparently there had been a number of people forming small groups dedicated to preparing for the Revolution on Daysimir in recent years, similar to the US Militia Movement of 90s, except they were far better at sniffing out infiltrators in their midst. None of Rodoris' agents lasted long enough to report anything noteworthy before they mysteriously disappeared. A little digging reveals that many were started by guerrillas that fought during the planets occupation by the Tau during a several year long encroachment into the sector that was hushed up remarkably well. It seems that the removal of Rodoris wasn't the Administratum going "We're tired of your bullshit, out you go" but "Holy shit, if we don't get this guy out of there in about two weeks every government official on the planet is going to get lined up and shot and we'll have a hell of a time taking it back".

    These same people are continuing to prepare, just in case you try any of the shit the last guy tried to pull. Many of your top officials and agents immediately submitted their resignation and are waiting to flee the planet on the very next ship after getting word of this.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)05:57 No.18285308
    With the Gambling Zone Amends attached, nay; though the remainder of the proposal intrigues,
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:00 No.18285316

    We need the money and selling off our luxuries aren't gonna last us even a full cycle.

    Can we greenlight a very tight, privatized control group to further estimate the efficiency of such program?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:02 No.18285326
    hmm, any chance of seeking, first private and then public, conference with these groups?

    hear their grievances and such

    and bring any servants who try to flee their duty under some form of house arrest; any who complain of this will be submitted to the Arbites for abandoning their civil post during a delicate time in the planet's recovery
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:05 No.18285343
    don't be too hasty, instead of building up, we should be slightly more concerned with securing stable finances

    perhaps allow our convicts to enlist voluntarily into work crews and naval gangs to serve the remainder of their sentence (these guys are usually lifers anyways, so it's the same thing)

    this planet seems to be high in martial spirit, we should tap that to keep civil morale high
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:08 No.18285353
    Can we improve the AdMech relations to have access to better tech, or maybe empower our mining industries?
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)06:11 No.18285366

    Privatizing the prion populace working programs can bring in hefty tax income
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:12 No.18285373
    I was the person who suggested sending a message to the SOB to ask if they wish to start a mission on planet...and I'm submitting it again. It shouldn't really cost us much (There has to already be some temples and the Church pays for itself mostly) and the stability it could provide this very rebelious planet (Between the love people have for the Sisters and 'They have Power Armour and Bolters, dont' fuck with them') would be very handy.

    It's more a mid-range plan than a short range one...but it might help.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)06:13 No.18285380

    You dispatch bodyguards to prevent assassination attempts, although it seems their lives aren't in immediate danger. It's more that these people have spent years dealing with rules, regulations, and fees trying to slowly drive them out of business while the Toadies get showered with exemptions and subsidies. They have no problem with letting them sink or swim on their own, or even with a little of your help, they're more insulted at the thought of being bribed to show a former enemy the ropes than anything, and many are still bitter about not getting a chance to hang them from the nearest tree and may eventually come around.


    There are no Shrine Worlds in the sector, but you'll have people look into it.


    Public Relations is on it.

    Turning your capitol into a Vegas-Like entertainment hub and putting those pretty buildings to good use sounds very appealing. Constructions plans are being drawn up as you sit.


    As long as you don't make too many more big purchases like the Trading Fleet, even with all the improvements and renovations, you should be more than okay, although your treasury will be a bit low.


    You arrange a meeting and manage to get your panicking subordinates back under control.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:15 No.18285389

    Oh, someone already suggested it. Cool.
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)06:20 No.18285407

    Everything is coming along nicely.

    With the next to nothing cost of prison workforce we can expect MAJOR PROFITS just from the control group.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:21 No.18285409
    So, what other planets and interesting places are in our solar system. What kind of neighbours do we have on the galactica scale?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:24 No.18285419
    >inadvertently pissed off our businessmen
    ack, send apologies and inquire as to their impressions of Rodoris' incompetence; pay specific attention to anything positive they might have to say, a fool might stumble on the answer to a riddle once or twice in his life, after all
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)06:26 No.18285429
    ...so, lemme get this straight; you want to turn convicts into servitors and then tighten laws on the populace to generate more convicts?

    Allow me to be the first to call you utterly insane.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:27 No.18285433
    You'd be the second one. OP already called it here:
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)06:28 No.18285441
    Oh, shit before I forget:

    One of your perks as an Ex-Navy guy is that you have a Rogue Trader friend that will stop by whenever he's in the sector to sell you some of the random shit he's found and the occasional cool toy. He should be dropping by in a while.

    You have an indigenous population of Ogryns living in the northern area of the planet, they mostly live in Tribal groups in highly rural areas and are unusually intelligent (For Ogryns) and are generally friendly with their human neighbors Because of this, the population of your world is highly tolerant of Abhumans.

    During the Tau occupation Resistance forces were joined by Eldar strike-teams from a Craftworld that saw the rapid Tau expansion in the area as a threat. After spending several years liberating their world through bloody Guerrilla warfare alongside these warriors and the odd Kroot and Gue'Vesa turn-cloak, they no longer buy the Imperial propaganda line about Xenos. They have no illusions about the threat that some pose to the Imperium, particularly the Tau, but they aren't CLEANSIN' AND PURGAN' anymore either. According to rumor, Eldar parties occasionally engage in clandestine trade with former Resistance members in the deep wilderness of Daysimir, your Agents point out that this could mean that any rebels might be armed with more than Imperial weaponry...
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:31 No.18285454

    Emperor, this is a complete clusterfuck. I think we need to get on the good side of these rebels. Better to have them liking us then wanting us dead. I don't want to see what they can bring to the table between knowledge of the territory and possible xenotech.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:31 No.18285457
    >>There are no Shrine Worlds in the sector
    1, Why? All things considered, the Ecclesiarchy probably has a Shrine World or several in every sector.
    2, You don't need a Shrine World. There WILL be Ecclesiarchy personal on the planet, you tell them and they get the paper-work all filled for you or you call up who ever is the head of the Ecclesiarchy (Or his SoB bodyguard) in the sector.
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)06:32 No.18285461

    >According to rumor, Eldar parties occasionally engage in clandestine trade with former Resistance members in the deep wilderness of Daysimir

    >clandestine trade


    This is a direct threat to everything we're trying to build here!

    I call our Security Committee to action! This situation is unacceptable and has to be dealt with immediately!
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:34 No.18285467
    Probably because OP hasn't though about any SoB orders nearby yet.

    Let's never, ever, ask about that stuff again.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:35 No.18285470
    Suggestion, open the prison labor market up to the non toady businesses. Let them bid for the labor rights of the prisoners for use as they wish in their businesses.

    Also, while I agree that selling off the useless trinket shit we got from the previous turd is a good idea, selling much beyond what would be an instant recoup of the cost of the defense weapons armed trader fleet would be a mistake. We could very easily use these items to trade with our Rogue trader pal for awesome stuff.

    Also, contact high level Admech representatives, find out EXACTLY what it is they are doing here, what their programs are, their products, etc, and since there is a 99.999% chance that the admech was probably being ignored by the previous turd governor, find out how much of the planetary tithe they actually owe us from however long back. Possibly declare a moratorium on their debt to us in exchange for a percentage of how much they owe.

    Regardless, take the money/trade from the admech, instantly invest it into the PDF and general maintenance funds to aid in a swifter build up/rebuild of the broken down stuff we have. This could easily push it closer to 5 years for repairs as opposed to 10.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:35 No.18285473

    SOB Start Missions on Imperial and Feral Worlds too...honestly...there should certainly be SOMETHING in sector, even if not a shrine.

    And with the Eldar maybe interfering...I'm not sure we can count on just our personal troops if they decide to try something.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:37 No.18285481
    We should probably inspect the planetary and orbital defences. How are the PDF equipped.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:37 No.18285486

    Wait, both of you. If we call out the threat of the rebels with our current PDF and force disparity all that will happen is that we lose quickly. What we need to do is wait, bide our time, and then when we have everything we need, then we crush them like the Xenos loving scum they are.

    Also, look at the SoB. This is not your typical Imperial planet, we get those bitches in armor coming down here and everything that we are going to have to work towards goes right out the window. The first thing they will do is hollar for an ][ representative and woop fuck us right over.

    Screw that, let's ignore the SoB as heavily as we can.
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)06:38 No.18285488

    >Let them bid for the labor rights of the prisoners for use as they wish in their businesses.

    I second that motion.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:41 No.18285498

    What do you mean? The SOB are on a lot of planets without calling in the Inquisition. They work with them...but they are primarily the Ecclessiarchy.

    This situation could do with some people skilled at dealing with keeping people in the imperial fold (Sisters Dialogus) and potentially some people good with weaponry (Sisters Militant), at the very least, to help coordinate with our PDF. We don't even have enough to stop a group of raiders, let alone anything truely dangerous.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)06:41 No.18285500

    In the sub-sector you have three Imperial Civilized Worlds, one Feudal World, and a Death World that supplies the fiercest regiment in the Kri Sector. In the sector at large is more of the same, a mix of Civilized Worlds and Feudal/Feral worlds. The capitol system has one Hive World (Home of the Sector Governor) one Forge World, one Agri-world, two Civilized worlds, and one highly profitable asteroid belt mining colony that digs out a rare and valuable crystal.

    Oh the Xenos Empires there are several, Xin'Tar Warrior Hives to the "Southern" edge of the sector, the Kraan Hegemony to the North, The Jarki stars to the center of the sector, and an unknown reptilian race run by a "Cabal" in the East (And that's right near you!). There are also three Ork-held worlds that are a constant pain in the ass, five Eldar Exodite worlds that mostly keep to themselves, and one Daemon World that is a bigger pain in the ass to everyone than all the nasty things in the sector combined.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:43 No.18285505

    That and there is an Honest-To-Emperor Daemon World in sector...I could totally go for some hymns and blessings available.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)06:44 No.18285509
    I will support the motion as well.

    Well, this is certainly... troubling... does anyone else consent to asking the Arbites for advice on the matter? There have been examples, as I recall, of Xenos forces being officially sanctioned, even from the major factions, to be allowed economic contact and military support with Imperial elements. Perhaps we should look into this avenue?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:45 No.18285515
    We should see if we can meet with the head of the potential revolutionaries. Perhaps we can allay their concerns and incorporate some of them into the PDF. They are likely skilled and motivated, which is a lot more than you can say for most PDFs. Set up a PDF reserve for those others with actual jobs to have them on call and train with the PDF occasionally.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)06:48 No.18285531
    I would suggest we keep amicably segregated of Resistance members until we get this Xenos-fraternizing issue sorted out in the eyes of the law.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:48 No.18285532

    Sanctioning is really more an individual thing, not a group thing. I think the best we can hope for there is 'Don't ask, don't tell'
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:50 No.18285541
    Very much seconded.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:50 No.18285542

    Point taken. At the very least though, we should allay their concerns of us being another of the Old Governer, try to take them off high alert...while we investigate these rumors.
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    and more importantly, in the eyes of the church, assuming we want a Sororitas Mission establish on our soil.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:52 No.18285557
    Before trying to do anything against Resitance groups and/or corporate mafia we need to improve PDF to the highest quality and have several battle-ships orbiting the planet (for some low-tier, precise orbital bombarding)
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)06:52 No.18285558

    Jobs and training cost money.

    Bribing dissenters, in trying times like this?

    We BARELY started the Prison Workforce program, and had to sell off our collection of highly valuable mementos at flat price!

    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:53 No.18285566
    What the fuck is it with you and you're god damed prison crap.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)06:54 No.18285571
    Sanction the Xenos leaders, where they exist, then

    I am interested in hearing the Arbites' viewo n the matter first, but if worst comes to worst, we *might* be able to buy a mass Xenos Sanctioning from the Ecclesiarchy or whomever does the deed for a price.

    I'd much rather not have to deal with eliminating forces that aided these inhabitants and their most militantly independent factions thereof in holding this world against Tau encroachment.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:54 No.18285573
    >We BARELY started the Prison Workforce program

    Despite everything, we are highly rich world. I don't see the reason of implementing forced labour, especially since it will provoke extremely negative reaction.
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)06:57 No.18285585

    Too bad


    The control group is already up and running.

    Cheaper labour = higher profits

    Higher profits = more funds to direct to the PDF.

    We've been over this, people
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:58 No.18285595
    >You send out your proposal and get flat rejection across the board, along with several messages stating that if you want to prop up the Toadies their heads are going to go on pikes. According to your information gatherers this is not an idle threat, as several prominent businessmen in Rodoris' pocket were indeed found sans a body and mounted on crude wooden spears on some backwoods road during the early days of his rule. The local businessmen seem to be closer to "clean" mafia families than normal company owners.

    okay, someone explain this. What is this reaction to exactly?
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)06:59 No.18285598
    Naval bombardment is anything but precise, even by the most skilled crews; mountains are leveled in 'surgical' strikes, rather than the whole range. We should be aware of this, considering our past. Even a deterring bombardment would, in all likelyhood, severely damage both the patchy infrastructure and what little obedience we have over the citizenry.

    Let me attempt to make this clear, we are not within reliably held Imperial Space, we are a fringe sector with few people and institutions to call on. And even if we did have friends in high place, response times are miserable in general, not even taking into account our remote position.

    Let us consolidate what advantages we do have before making brash speculations.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)06:59 No.18285602
    >>The first thing they will do is hollar for an ][ representative and woop fuck us right over.
    You don't understand how it works. The Sisters don't call the =][= at the drop of a hat. Hell, unless it's absolutely needed they will actively avoid calling them.
    To put it simply, THE SISTERS ARE NOT THE =][=
    Their means are the same but their end games are completely different.

    There is Rebel factions and Eldar? Call the Sisters and there is your army.
    You don't know how far they are spread nor how deep?
    Call the Sisters and you have your investigation team.
    There is very real fear that your own guard and PDF are woefully inefficient?
    Call the Sisters and that fear goes out the Window with 'your' new army and personal bodyguard.

    Unless you have old, Ecclesiarchy-related skeletons in your closet then you have no reason to really fear their arrival.

    Need and excuse for their arrival so not to tip off the Rebels and Eldar?
    Have the Sisters mostly the Non-militant orders for Schools, Hospitals and a brand new Cathedral you will make in the capital with the customary several missions of SoBs to be their guards.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:01 No.18285614
    Inbox: Petition

    Your Highness,

    included is a signature list of 200,000 citizens in support of changing the name of the planet. As it may have come to your attention earlier, your people, especially your armed forces, are sick of being called Daisies by offworlders. We agree that something grimmer and darker sounding would be more appropriate.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)07:01 No.18285615
    that would be my attempt to get the Toady companies on a prosperous track without letting them fail utterly, and thus waste time and resources in waiting for other venture capitalists to fill the gap in their production, or supporting them outright with what precious little government revenue we have available

    the self-made companies didn't like the middle-road proposal of being paid to show the toadies how to keep themselves out of the red
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)07:03 No.18285626


    Let's hire a third party.

    Tax them a little, maybe organize a kickback?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)07:03 No.18285627
    The meeting with the Rebel forces is approaching.

    (This next part is going to have personal dialogue, I'm going to need a description of what you look like and also a name)

    The Ecclessiarchy is...less than strong locally. The Sisters in the area were hit hard by Chaos incursions and Ork raiders, plus the massive SoB layoff that happened recently has left them rather short-handed (Although it leaves a great deal of former Sisters Militant without employment...). They're interested, but don't really have the resources to start a new Mission right now.

    The on-planet Ecclessiarchy are not very willing to interfere, as investigations into the noticeable dwindling of the normal anti-Xenos religious fire are usually met with strange disappearances and unfortunate accidents.

    You also send the local Entrepreneurs a letter of apology, which is well received after they've had a chance to cool off. Some interest is shown in the rights to prisoner labor auctions as well, although they make it plain that they would prefer it if the Prisoners are treated with respect to the unofficial Civil Rights that most citizens of your world agree on.

    Aside from that, rebuilding, renovation, and improvement are going well. The planetary infrastructure is becoming noticeably more functional and you're getting your first wealthy gamblers in the "City of Marble". You've also received reports that the Navy patrols you asked to keep watch over your Freighters have fended off several Pirate attacks, but that otherwise it looks like it will be a highly profitable venture. There are, however, still those favors you owe to your academy buddies that will need to be paid off down the line..

    Your Rogue Trader buddy has also called and says he'll be there soon with some shiny toys for you to look over.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:05 No.18285636
    Hmm, is there a reason why you want to eradicate Eldar and the resistance so much?
    You realise that you want to destroy global heroes who defended the planet against Tau scum and their allies, the Eldar.

    This will probably have huge backlash from the populace. Is it worth it? We will probably have to enact massive oppressive measures to keep everyone in check.

    For the record, I don't care what happens with Eldar. I'm just concerned that this action could be a step closer to civil war.

    I am not particularly happy that the Dictator's orders/proposals are being refused so adamantly.... but, I guess we must solidify our position first, no need to rush.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:08 No.18285654
    Names have significance, allow me to enlighten you to this world's name and its history as 'The Daisy in the East'

    >The daisy, a European native, is widely naturalized in North and South America. Its name comes from the term "day's eye," a reference to the fact that daisy blooms are only open during the day and close up at night. This uncomplicated flower has been assigned meaning for centuries-here are a few:
    Love detector. Daisies have long been associated with love. The, "she loves me, she loves me not," method of pulling petals from a flower was first used with the daisy to tell love's fortune.
    Childlike. The daisy flower is often seen as a symbol of innocence-more particularly, the innocence of youth. Daisies have long been given in bouquets to new mothers as a way to celebrate the birth of a child. And children throughout the ages have made "daisy chains" from the flowers to wear as they play.
    Purity. In many western cultures, the daisy represents purity. In the southern Sueden Isles, for example, daisies are known as "priest's collars", because their petals resemble the stiff white collars worn by those in the clergy.
    Simply perfect. The daisy has been celebrated in art and poetry for its simple beauty. Poets have praised its simplicity. Hairpins decorated with daisies have been found in ancient ruins dating back 4,000 years.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:09 No.18285664

    >massive SoB layoff

    Umm...I don't think that can happen...that's like saying 'Priest Layoff'...being a Sister is a vocation, not a simple job.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:10 No.18285666
    >going to need a description of what you look like and also a name

    I'd say we should keep the name suggested here

    No strong feelings about the appearance. Maybe above average hight, red hair, in surprisingly good shape for somebody who doesn't need to do any kind of physical work.
    Maybe a scar on the neck from a duel with some insolent captain in the navy?
    Still wearing the old navy uniform, mostly.
    Relatively young, although you probably couldn't tell from those rejuv treatments.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)07:14 No.18285688



    These people are essentially cleaner Mafia. They don't take kindly to government backed competition, and take even less kindly to INCOMPETENT government-backed competition. Many of them still hate these peoples guts. Your agents have also discovered that this hatred may have deeper roots than was previously believed, as it appears that the Toadies struck back with attacks of their own, resulting in the local Families fighting a slow losing gang-war against government-backed fat cats with broken kneecaps and bodies dumped in the sewers everywhere. It's becoming obvious that the normal veil of Imperial Propaganda is incredibly thick here, and is making even looking up the facts behind Imperial spin on recent events difficult in the extreme. Your agents inform you that this tendency holds true to a lesser extent in the sector at large. The single-minded determination with which local Imperial authorities keep declaring that "EVERYTHING IS FINE" is making you suspicious that all is not well in this part of the fringe...
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:15 No.18285702
    >>Naval bombardment is anything but precise, even by the most skilled crews; mountains are leveled in 'surgical' strikes
    They have accuracy within tens of meters, even closer.
    A kilometer off at the most.

    They snipe 10km big ships moving half the speed of light a tenth of an AU away.

    A relatively stationary world four hundred km? Please, they could target a pinhead and hit it with every third of so shot.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)07:15 No.18285704

    Sounds good.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:17 No.18285711
    Let's simply put all the toadies on a ship, give everybody an adequate amount of money that gives them the chance start a new life and make them somebody elses problem.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)07:17 No.18285715
    Indeed, neither am I, but if the Eldar saw fit to defend a human colony, I suppose we can keep truck until they show the populace their... mercurial natures.

    I, for one, support an official stance of... hesitance... to embrace the Eldar as good friend rather than simply allies of convenience and temporarily mutual interest. Although, I am of interest in divining their reason for safeguarding this world, perhaps they expect a favor from the populace or however the witchblooded things figure political utility.

    I believe we are called Elyssa von Braun, I assume that means we are female? We seem to be utilitarian... even in regards to people and myself, the more moral and reserved aspect.

    I will leave it up to the lobbyist and the other Unnamed aspects of our personality as to what we wear, though I do hope it isn't quite so gaudy as most personages of High Imperial Stature
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)07:17 No.18285718

    >is there a reason why you want to eradicate Eldar and the resistance so much?

    Need i remind the gentlemen that the Eldar are practically running a contraband ring right in our back yard?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:19 No.18285723
    >Aside from that, rebuilding, renovation, and improvement are going well. The planetary infrastructure is becoming noticeably more functional and you're getting your first wealthy gamblers in the "City of Marble"

    We know how gambling attracts crime and corruption. Order your people to set up per-emptive measures against this.
    Loan Sharks? Government backed loans, given on the ability to repay the debt. Any unsanctioned loan 'agencies' will be dealt swiftly and harshly.
    Prostitution? Government sanctioned "workers" with health benefits and protection.
    Drugs? Well... this is iffy but I guess we could have legal, non-hard drugs.
    etc etc

    Also, higher security and protection. Better investigation in corruption of government officials and security than other sectors.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:19 No.18285725
    Get rid of the toadies. Attempt to have the mafia leaders installed as official members of the planetary government.

    Also, contact the Ultramarines and try to get an answer from them about whether or not they'd come to your aid should a full-blown rebellion come to being
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:20 No.18285729
    >Get rid of the toadies.

    Eh. Let the free market decide. Whoever can survive, has earned their place.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)07:20 No.18285733

    Combining these two.


    You mark this idea for attention after the meeting.

    Any last minute affairs to attend to before meeting the Militia leaders?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:21 No.18285737
    >>plus the massive SoB layoff that happened recently has left them rather short-handed
    >>(Although it leaves a great deal of former Sisters Militant without employment...)

    Ok, we can take a hint, you'd rather fuck established canon sideways then include Sisters.

    You honestly could have just said that from the beginning instead.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:21 No.18285739
    >I believe we are called Elyssa von Braun, I assume that means we are female? We seem to be utilitarian... even in regards to people and myself, the more moral and reserved aspect.

    I prefer to be a male though.
    Any chance we can correct that?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:22 No.18285744

    Elyssa is a female name...so I think so.

    If we can't get SOB Support...then I guess we should make sure we can shore up the PDF and have the Arbites investigate the fuck out that xenos link.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:23 No.18285750
    I'd say Elyssa sounds very female to me.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)07:24 No.18285753
    I see you've taken to the tracts of battle poets over hard sensorium data. Ship-to-ship combat is undertaken by volleys of coordinated fire among the much rarer probe of lance projectors, not precision strikes. While a single lance might score the hull of a battleship with a terrible wound and cleave her escorts into fragments, the weapons miss as often as they hit.

    I would be astounded to see a crack gun crew hit their intended mark within a kilometer's distance. I expect far less than that, even from the best men aided by the most venerated technologies.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:24 No.18285755
    Let's have the "unemployed" sisters be delivered a proposal to act in the condition of bodyguard until we can comfortably afford them a shrine and supplies.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)07:27 No.18285766
    Have an escape route planned.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:28 No.18285774
    All the more reason for this idea.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:28 No.18285778
    "Always have your tunnels dug and ready."

    I think a philosopher said that.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:30 No.18285780
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    I guess we go for a female mc?
    Eh, I would have preferred a male.

    Maybe we can drop character portraits and base our appearance on that?
    This is the only relevant picture I could find.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)07:32 No.18285787
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    Do keep in mind that until this Xenos issue is settled, a Sister of any Order seeing us compromise with what are by all accounts recedivists and heretics would result in a most unfortunate set of circumstances for both ourselves and the populace at large, should their testimony reach puritanical ears.

    >pic something like our mode of dress
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:33 No.18285792
    I'd rather not.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)07:34 No.18285795
    I like this picture better, now if only we could get a drawfag to make the hair some shade of red
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:36 No.18285806
    Well, as I see it we're currently their best chance of regaining a significant foothold in this planet, short of a purge. Maybe have them interviewed and should the likelihood of biting the hand that feeds it be high, have them be exported elsewhere by our RT friend in a cryo-casket.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)07:40 No.18285826

    The Families send you politely worded "Thanks, but no thanks" letters. They would quite frankly rather stay out of Government and retain their independence. From the uniformity of their response it's becoming apparent that they're more like one loose-knit faction than the dozens of smaller allied factions they at first appear to be.

    The Ultramarines haven't visited Daysimir since the humiliating incident with the highly expensive statues of Rowboat that managed to crumble away from exposure to metal residue in the rain in a few days, going from proud, gleaming monuments to sad piles of marble gravel on a pedestal before the celebration of their raising even ended. The Ultramarines have refused to speak with officials from your world ever since.

    Two disturbing news items have found their way to your desk, one is a statistical analysis that states that either your Trade Fleet was simultaneously targeted by dozens of disparate and often warring pirate factions, or piracy in general is four times as common as the local officials like to admit. This is further evidence that the Imperium is trying very hard to cover up the fact that things aren't going at all well in your neck of the woods.

    The second is a strange item that was discovered during your investigation of the Mafia Wars, it appears that during that time the number of bodies found floating in the sewers decreased dramatically even as the war intensified and the fighting grew more bitter, around the same time, rumors of strange, humanoid creatures in the sewers, odd cults popping up that seemed to change anyone that joined them, and a rash of disappearing sewer workers began appearing. It seems from your analysis that this phenomenon is ongoing, with disappearances in the seedier districts of your city dramatically increasing as the Mafia War ended.

    None of this bodes well.
    >> sk 03/11/12(Sun)07:40 No.18285828
    Since we are about to meet with our militia, can we focus on that?

    I suggest that we appear detatched and aloof at first. Have minions present a strong demeanor. State that this is an imperial planet, and appear ready to come down on them like the fist of god. Be all gung ho and blood thirsty. Then, once the militia are all red faced and almost ready to spill blood, let us step in and actually speak as govenor rather than let minions do the talking. Be polite. Be sympathetic. Explain that your minions were presenting the official imperial creed, but that you, being a realist the magnanimous soul that you are, are willing to compromise from the official hard-line. Let them realize how GOOD they have had it till now, and that it could be SO much worse than you are making it for them.

    stick. THEN carrot.
    >> Experienced Rogue Trader 03/11/12(Sun)07:40 No.18285830
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    Looking forward to the visit from our RT buddy. In addition to his wares I'm interested in seeing what he can dig up off world about our situation. Is there any pressing information he would want to be forthcoming about? If not I'd say offer him port more often, RT's with a vested interest in any world tend to be able to help with any number of situations that fall outside of the imperium's influence. Especially our little Eldar situation, they don't have to go home, but they can't stay here.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)07:41 No.18285832

    Huh. I really thought that that was a thing that happened. I heard it mentioned in a Rogue Trader thread a while back.

    I'm not trying to sabotage your attempts to include sisters, it's just that they don't really have a strong presence out here on the Fringe. If I was wrong about the layoff thing they'd probably have the numbers to establish a Mission, but not a very large or influential one.

    Militia leaders are here now. Go in?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)07:43 No.18285840

    Someone could have paid them off to undermine us. We need to investigate.

    Chaos cultists!!!
    This is a better target for SoB than the resistance and Eldar
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)07:46 No.18285851
    agreed, let then fear our men, but be loyal to us
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)07:48 No.18285859
    hell, maybe establish a small mission to investigate the rumors of cultists and second them Arbites, local enforcers, and PDF as needed or as their reports deem prudent
    >> Experienced Rogue Trader 03/11/12(Sun)07:49 No.18285865
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    I'm not even sure I wanna know what he has to say anymore...
    At this point every rock we kick over seems to have another bigger snake.
    How large is this RT's empire? I'm thinking he could help with our pirate situation in exchange for some favors. Of course he's welcome to all the loot he can salvage as long as I get first offer on anything of value.

    As a side note the PDF is becoming more needed every day and I'm not hearing of much progress, in addition off-world assistance from any imperium forces seems unlikely barring full scale disaster, which we're not likely to survive physically and politically.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)07:53 No.18285887
    Yes, as more and more information comes to light, a secure, faithful, and loyal PDF seems ever more necessary. However, can we recruit and train enough troops fast enough to secure Daysimir against so many threats appearing from the woodwork so fast?

    I'm hesistant to suggest this, but it might be wise to secure an exterminatus device off-world, perhaps stowed securely on the moon and perhaps in separate inactive pieces, should all of this... foreboding hit the front page at once.
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)07:55 No.18285900
    I submit the motion to delegate one of the "specialized" work crews from our earlier Labour projects to inspect the situation in the sewers, seeing how the regular workers are refusing to come even near that damned maze.
    >> sk 03/11/12(Sun)08:00 No.18285923

    Its is either chaos cults or genestealers. Especially possible since we are on the eastern fringe, so tyranid splinter fleets is always a possibility.

    Going back to the meeting with the militia, I would like to second the idea I saw earlier upthread about getting them into the PDF. Make it part of an appeal to their patriotic planetary pride. something like "This isn't about local politics or whatever grievances you may have had with the previous administration, but rather defending our glorious planet as a whole. The problem with civilian militant groups is on its most fundamental level, one of coordination. By joining up with, or at very least, working with the PDF, you could ensure that everyone would be fighting the same fight, and that by fighting together, there is no effort wasted by having the PDF attack for example an ork pirate band that the local men had already cleaned up. Also, with cooperation and coordination, there is greatly reduced chances of friendly fire incidents, on both sides." (this bit said with just the BAREST hint of a threat.

    You know, appeal to their determination to defend their homes without it seeming like WE are the enemy. Basically try to get them to agree to point their guns at any bad guys rather than at us. I don't expect them to agree, fall in line, and go talk to the PDF recruiter, but at least try and make it so that in their eyes, we and they fight the same fight. versus the ENEMY! whomever that vague and uncertain threat is.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)08:01 No.18285933

    You make a mental note of it.


    He has his ship (A Cruiser) and about 3,00 Armsmen (Mostly Mechanized infantry with light armored support)...And that's about it. He's more than capable of dealing with some pirates, however. You also tell an aide to have the PDF begin expanding and training immediately. Equipping them will be expensive, and hiring good drill instructors from reputable regiments will be even more expensive, but you have enough cash to spare.


    You have some of your trusted men start looking into...last resort options quietly.



    Just want to clear something up, not all of this is going to bite down on your ass immediately, it will eventually but you should have time to prepare, and not all of the coming events will necessarily be negative. If you need a hint, I suggest you start looking for resources in unexpected places. And work on your Diplomacy a bit...

    ...And on a completely unrelated note we're Meeting with Militia. Anybody have any other suggestions?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:02 No.18285938
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    you tricked us, OP, why did we ever believe Easter would be different from Christmas!?
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)08:03 No.18285947


    Use one or the other or combine the two tactics?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:03 No.18285949
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    I vote we raise our PDF/Guard units to wear uniforms similar to the American Union Zouaves
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)08:06 No.18285955

    You make an note.
    >> Experienced Rogue Trader 03/11/12(Sun)08:07 No.18285961
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    I think I just woke up everyone in my house laughing.
    That is 40k in a nutshell
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:08 No.18285965

    Eh. Lets not.
    Focus on practicality first
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)08:08 No.18285967
    A bit of both, but steer towards the amicable side of things, let our representatives heat up the room a bit before we stride in all cheer and goodwill, shushing any (previously informed) instigator on our side.

    Show the stick being used (in mock) on our own subordinates first before bringing it to bear on these... rough-and-tumble types.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:09 No.18285969
    The first one, please.

    That note should probably read never to implement something that silly.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:10 No.18285975
    >He has his ship (A Cruiser) and about 3,00 Armsmen

    Did you mean 300 or 3000?
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)08:12 No.18285992
    I'd guess closer to 3000, 300 is woefully inadequate for even the smallest vessel, let alone a cruiser that can hold its own against pirates
    >> Experienced Rogue Trader 03/11/12(Sun)08:21 No.18286040

    Excellent, I'm interested in what he would expect as compensation or if he's wanting to defer payment to call one in on us later.
    I'll need to know more before I would commit any resources.
    Also someone else mentioned it, that is a very high number of pirates. See if we can find out who's bankrolling them. Raiding is profitable but the danger should be more offputting especially in this viper nest. I'm thinking privateers. (Please be the Eldar or Tau, I don't think we can afford more interest in this sector.)

    If we're still meeting with the militia groups it may be prudent to gather information. Who are the guys and their leaders. Names, distinguishing marks, pictures if possible. I'd like the arbites to start on that and see if any of this guys are related to trouble elsewhere. Infiltrators sowing dissent are always relevant to my interest.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)08:22 No.18286050


    You wait in the hall for a while before striding confidently into the room, The Militia leaders, considerably more than you expected to show, are lined up on one side of an expensive marble meeting table, while on the other side sit your lieutenants and ministers. It is apparent that things were very shortly going to come to blows, and you doubt it would have gone in favor of your men.

    Across from you are seated nearly 60 heavily armed men dressed in worn combat fatigues, many are getting on in years but seem to command the respect of the obviously more hot-headed younger leaders. One in particular catches your eye, as he is wearing a tattoo you recognize as being a sort of "ownership mark" that Gue'Vesa serving in the Tau navy wear, it appears to have been covered with a crude brand in the shape of an Imperial Aquila, he is also wearing an Eldar knife on his belt and has an obviously worn Tau Pulse Carbine with several crude symbols of the Machine Cult scratched onto it and a prayer to the Emperor scrawled on its barrel leaning against the table next to him. Of all the representatives at the table he exudes the strongest air of military efficiency and authority and makes unblinking eye contact with you the second you enter the room.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:29 No.18286084
    Fuck, we should probably use the planetary guard to try to clear out the sewers.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:31 No.18286097
    Could you be so kind and either put <cont.> or <input> at the end of your posts when you're either still writing or waiting for input?
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)08:33 No.18286111

    No need to worry about that, i got this


    Y'all gonna thank me someday
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)08:33 No.18286115
    Well, at least the leadership *seems* fervently loyal.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)08:36 No.18286128

    None have been involved in any criminal activity that you can dig up (Aside from suspected dealings with the Eldar). In fact, they are held in near-reverence by the population at large as the Quote "heroes that cast off the iron boot of Tau oppression" End Quote.

    The man you noticed with the odd tattoo combination is apparently the ringleader, Davos Ithkael. There isn't much known about him aside from the basics: That he was a former navy Gue'Vesa officer that defected, was one of the first rebel commanders to strike up an alliance with the Eldar, and eventually assumed command of the Resistance as a whole after its previous commander (And founders) death in battle. Is currently in direct command of the largest Militia unit and He's become something of a local Folk Hero on Daysimir, and is not a man to be trifled with.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:37 No.18286132
    The way I see it, we can't afford to fight these guys ... yet ... so we have to make them into allies. If we're doing that then we might as well use them. I personally think they'd be an excellent starting point for our new PDF. They've got excellent experience defending the planet from xeno scum which would be invaluable if the daemon world, xeno-empires, ork waaghs or pirates come knocking (which considering the state of our intel is probably far more likely then we've been led to expect). I also think we could draw strike-teams from the militia to defend against any cultists.

    Give them enough independence that they're willing to join us and to show them that we're confident enough that we won't turn out like the last governor that we don't mind strengthening them. Leaving ourselves open like that should lead them to trust more.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:39 No.18286139
    Why would we even want to fight them? Considering the state the rest of the sector seems to be in, that would be like complaining about only getting vanilla ice while everybody else gets a nice big cone filled with shit.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)08:40 No.18286146
    Eh, if we suspect that they might become enemies in the future, we shouldn't integrate them with any governmental forces; at least not to any significant extent.

    Giving them enough aid so that they can act in the fashion their citizens seem favorable to, as lone-wolf troubleshooters and guerrilla fighters, while keeping us informed shouldn't be a bad idea, but they still need to be kept track of.
    >> sk 03/11/12(Sun)08:46 No.18286162
    "Gentlemen of the Daysimirian militia forces, I thank you for coming here to meet with me and my administration. I realize that the transitions from the old governor have been not as smooth as they could have been, and for that, I apologize, but you are all no doubt aware of the efforts I have made to straighten out some of the more egregious mistakes of my predecessor.

    You are here, not because I have asked you here, but because all of you truly and deeply care for this planet and its inhabitants, and let me assure you. That is a goal that we share. We are all aware of what official line of the Imperial creed is regarding consorting with aliens and "fraternizing with the enemy", but something that I have learned in my Naval career is that out here on the fringe, so far from all-mighty-Terra is that there are no Space Marines to defend us. No endless ranks of guardsmen to crush invaders under the might of a million tanks. Out here in the dark, the only thing that you can rely upon is yourself, your wits, and what you have at hand. And what I have at hand is you. You gentlemen, assembled here, because you dearly love this planet and only wish to see it safe. As do I, and I would like to do so without compromising the things that have made this planet the beautiful place that it is.

    I have asked you here so that I might gain your cooperation in the days to come. If I have learned anything in my short time here, it is that this place, while seemingly idyllic, holds dangers beneath the surface. A surface that I have only begun to scratch, yet intend to deface completely, that we might uproot whatever evils lay lurking beneath our feet, expose them to the Emperor's light and defeat them soundly, that as we rebuild, we will know the foundation to be firm and whole.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)08:46 No.18286164

    You inform them that you see them not as enemies, but as valuable allies in the days ahead, which appear to be very likely troubled indeed, and hint at eventually integrating them into the PDF.

    A general uproar and swarm of questions follows, ending when Davos lifts his hand to signal silence.

    He continues to hold eye contact. "First off, I thought you should know that there are snipers and bombs waiting in various parts of the city to start raining Hell on your enforcers if you try anything cute.

    "Second of all I'd just like you to know that if you need help training a stronger PDF, we'll be more than happy to assist so long as you agree to our terms...But before we go on, I'm going to need to know exactly what these troubles you're referring to are. We don't get much actual news past the Imperial propaganda, but we've gotten the impression that things aren't exactly going well.

    >Divulge Intel Y/N?
    >> Experienced Rogue Trader 03/11/12(Sun)08:47 No.18286166
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    Well time to get in bed with the Eldar lovers.
    Gracious greetings.
    Extend basic hospitality. Offer them food, drink, just nothing extravagant. I'd rather not offend their sensibilities. If questioned "We'd rather buy a soldier a lasgun than a diplomat a dinner."
    I say we get right down to business. They're our guests and I wouldn't waste their time. We offer an opportunity to address any grievances once they hear us out.
    I'd like to put this approach to a vote.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:48 No.18286173
    Yup. I don't think we have anything to lose from doing it.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:48 No.18286176
    >Divulge Intel Y/N?

    It's not like we personally know much either, so whatever we tell them can't be that bad.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)08:49 No.18286179

    Going back in time and having you give this speech, because it kicks ass. The result is that the Militia are noticeably less hostile towards you. Response is same as above.
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)08:49 No.18286181

    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)08:49 No.18286185
    Give 'em the Full Monty.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:50 No.18286187
    >Well time to get in bed with the Eldar lovers.

    I don't think they are Eldars lover. More like they did what they had to do and since Eldar helped them, they begrudgingly respect them.... at least they will not agree to kill them without a good explanation.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:50 No.18286189
    >>I'm not trying to sabotage your attempts to include sisters, it's just that they don't really have a strong presence out here on the Fringe.
    But you just contradicted yourself here.

    Sisters are a massive force spread throughout the entire Imperium and 'Fringe Worlds' are no different.

    A Mission, the smallest formal organisation of Sisters is used almost entirely as a scouting party, bodyguards, quick relief etc... Is a 1000 to 3000 points strong force.

    This organisation isn't the only thing sent to worlds except in BL fanfiction.
    They send Commanderies minimum and that's upward of 200 Sisters. Normally Preceptories or full Orders.

    The way the Ecclesiarchy is set up they use the Sisters to forward their goals. Sisters show up, dig in, build their forces and next thing you know the Ecclesiarchy has them reading over your shoulder, dotting your Is and crossing your Ts in your signiture.

    In a system that has a Daemon World, aliens on all sides, Ecclesiarchy personal 'vanishing' in investigations, this world, this Sector, will be high on the priority list.

    But it's kind of obvious that you didn't want to include them and still don't.

    So why didn't you just say that from the beginning?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:51 No.18286191
    >>18286132 here

    I want to integrate them enough to defend the planet well against any outside threats and, more immediately, help clear the sewers.

    I really don't think they're much of a threat unless we fuck up because they seem fairly loyal to the planet. If we want to wipe them out when our position's stronger then that shouldn't be too hard. Just gradually integrate them enough that they can't pull that "disappear into the forest bullshit", set up a SoB convent (which they won't oppose because everyone loves the SoB) and strengthen our armed trading fleet. Then when the time comes we point out they're filthy xeno-loving heretics to the SoB who start they're purging and likely do very VERY well considering they're SoB. Set off one of our last-resort explosives in a city as a false-flag operation to remove their public support, without which a guerilla operation can't really succeed. And use some orbital bombardments into their isolated camps which are helpfully far from collateral damage.

    I don't think this is necessary now and certainly don't think we should prepare for it yet because they might smell a rat considering how little they trust us atm but just bear in mind they're not an overhwhelming threat.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)08:52 No.18286201
    I vote that this Anon now writes our speeches.
    10/10 good sir, but I'd be amused if you revealed a source to your... impeccable eloquence.
    >> Experienced Rogue Trader 03/11/12(Sun)08:52 No.18286205

    NVM the vote that'll do.

    I say only let them in on a single issue at a time.
    We should focus them on the sewer issue as a special unit. High risk operations. That way we either resolve that problem or kill them. Both work to our benefit. I can find other military leaders more willing to play ball even if I do take a hit to experience.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:53 No.18286213
    >Sisters are a massive force

    This sisterhood is tiny compared to anything but the space marines.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)08:54 No.18286220

    Technically the Sisters are MORE likely to be on the Fringe than on somewhere safe and dull. They have the Orders who drop down to fringe worlds and set themselves up as Prophets and Seers (Helped by 'magic' via imperial tech) to prepare the natives for the Imperium so there isn't a war.
    >> sk 03/11/12(Sun)08:55 No.18286229

    -cont... (insert more speechyness by our speechwriters here. I am NOT going to type out a whole long address)

    So in conclusion gentlemen, what I am asking for is your cooperation. If you don't feel inclined to join up with the PDF, at least work with them when you can. We could use men of your experience in the field and managing men and material both. We are all here to fight the same enemies, and I am here, above all else to help you, the common man.

    With all that said, tell me, what can the government do for you?
    >> Experienced Rogue Trader 03/11/12(Sun)08:56 No.18286233
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    Seconded, we have our diplomat.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)08:56 No.18286235
    I would resist this temptation, keeping in mind that my version of last resort is a literal Scorched Earth policy executed by way of Exterminatus.

    I have no problems allying with the resistance forces, but I'd rather not find out that they've been waiting to place a poison-daubed knife in our collective backs once everything has been settled in bed.

    >edoita resistance
    captcha has something to say about this as well, but what, I cannot tell
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)09:00 No.18286249
    Slow enough that they don't have the chance to balk, but fast enough that they don't have the chance to balk in the other direction.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:03 No.18286265
    Yeah, your version.
    >> sk 03/11/12(Sun)09:05 No.18286270

    I spent 10ish years with one GM playing a 2nd ed DnD campaign where EVERYTHING was IC. occ required leaving the table. it started when we were both about 8
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)09:07 No.18286278

    It's not that I'm trying to keep the Sisters out of the campaign, it's just that the whole setting of "You're far from Terra, no one is really paying attention to the "rules", shit is falling apart, and you may have to do semi-heretical things to survive" is kind of ruined if there are Space Nuns by the thousands tromping around and killing blamming Heretics and possibly holding a Bolter to your skull to keep you in line. I have nothing against the sisters, but for the purpose of this quest I'd rather not have them running around IN FORCE and directly interfering with your shit JUST YET. If you really want to have them around, I'm okay with that, but unless you've got a really good poker-face it'll severely limit your options and throw several plot-lines entirely out the window.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)09:09 No.18286284
    The Resistance already has your version of last resort explosives though and they know this world much more intimately than we do.

    Does anyone else operate off the assumption that we could easily be removed from power at any time? Pulling the Ecclesiarchy down on everyone's heads in a power bid would ruin the flexibility of the citizenry that gives us an ample opportunity to make this world into a powerhouse on the periphery of space.

    Just think of it, our own 'Kittery Prefecture' to bring the full glory of the Imperial Truth back into the galaxy.
    >> sk- the Gubernatorial public speaker 03/11/12(Sun)09:11 No.18286290

    so like in my speech :D

    at any rate, did we come to a consensus on if we are telling our militia "friends" about the cult like indicators we were seeing?

    I vote yes, scare em into our arms, all under the guise of "working together to keep our planet safe"

    I mean, I don't plan on backstabbing these guys, but I would like to have them under OUR control as well, rather than off doing their own thing. Also, from the sounds of it, having the local folk-hero at least publicly backing us would be a major social coup.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:12 No.18286294
    We're with the navy. They remove us from power, they get bombed from orbit. It's that easy.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)09:12 No.18286297
    bravo, I constantly seek the kind of group and attitude you seem to have been blessed with.

    I, for one, am fine with Bolter Bitches taking some time to get here; we've barely got a handle on the situation as it is and I'd rather not add yet another volatile element into the mix as I assume the majority of us would agree.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)09:13 No.18286304
    *Warn* them into our arms, sure. I dislike extremes of action.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:14 No.18286310

    I reckon we tell them for pretty much the same reasons you say.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)09:16 No.18286320
    damn, so many things to respond to
    I believe I've mentioned that the primary advantage to this planet was that she's a diamond in the rough and mostly polished and cut already too. You don't just go hacking at that in a fool's errand to craft the perfect gem, we'd end up making nought but cheap grinding dust.

    This world is a rare thing and I'm of the impression that it is imperative to mould her contours around the subtle imperfections rather than try and cut them out entirely.
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)09:20 No.18286340
    Yes, much riches and power to be had here.

    But don't get too friendly with the dissenters.

    If they removed the Tau from the planet, they will do so with us without hesitation.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)09:21 No.18286347

    Again adding this in via time-travel. Relations with Militia have improved by several points.

    After laying down all the intel you have about the situation at large in the sector you can see the anger from your lackeys speeches beginning to melt away as they focus on the task at hand. After reviewing the information they submit their terms, their main request is that you do not enact gun control laws. Many Citizens that are unaffiliated with the Militia own assault cannons and Heavy Stubbers and would prefer to keep them legally, and to also not ban Xenotech, as many citizens have old Tau weaponry left over from the War.

    Agree to these terms?
    It is becoming increasingly obvious
    >> sk- the Gubernatorial public speaker 03/11/12(Sun)09:22 No.18286352

    Sadly, my GM got a job with google and moved off to Boston, and the new one is somewhat lacking. That however, is neither here nor there.


    Yeah, this is the thing to keep in mind here. Kicking the ass of the tau off the planet is usually something that takes massive numerical superiority of guardsmen (by an order of magnitude or more), or at least a few companies of spess mahreens. These militia dudes are NOT to be underestimated.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)09:22 No.18286353
    Whoops, accidentally a sentence there.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)09:28 No.18286379
    Anyone still here?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:31 No.18286395
    Sorry, though you were going to add that sentence.

    If we should allow it, xenotech is not to be displayed in public. We don't care if they shoot it in the woods but displaying it where an off-worlder might see it is a big no-no.

    Seems like we won't get around agreeing to no gun control laws, but I'd say we should require a license to purchase ammunition.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)09:32 No.18286400
    "I do not see much of an issue with letting legacy weapons from the Resistance receive honorary permission, but I am hesitant to allow unrestricted and untracked sales of large caliber or rapid fire weapons intended for full-scale warfare into civilian hands. Registration need only pay the pittance of a fee to catalogue the weapon and its owner and may then last until the owner changes hands, further exception might be made for such weapons being inherited or passed down. Do understand that I merely wish to have an accurate accounting of the citizenry's ability to make war and what sundries might be needed to supply a non-uniform militia with the proper munitions and where those supplies can be expected to be delivered in a time of emergency."
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:35 No.18286417
    I'm lurking, enjoying the reading, though i can step up if need be
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:37 No.18286423
    Allow existing xenotech within reasonable amounts (no one gets to keep a looted Crisis Suit or unmounted railgun). Outright trade with xenos is still a no-no.
    >> sk- the Gubernatorial public speaker 03/11/12(Sun)09:38 No.18286433
    question for the OP, is the knowledge o the ork and deamon worlds public knowledge, or is that something that only us as the govinator and various local military commanders would know?
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)09:38 No.18286434
    "Further, the use of... exotic arms is less of a concern than is the nature of the suppliers and their ultimate intent. Public use of Xenos weaponry is... a matter of which I would like to disuade you all, but I do believe the Mechanicus Priesthood have a sect that is amicable to the sanctioning of xenos weaponry for Imperial use. It should be a small matter to contact the local Enclave and arrange a deal on the matter that can be legislated without incident."

    Elyssa looks at the assembled Resistance with some doubt and consternation, "That is something we can agree to try, isn't it?"
    >> Experienced Rogue Trader 03/11/12(Sun)09:39 No.18286438
    I am

    I'm amendable to such terms, and if I could from what we told them see if we can get a feel for possible resolutions to our ills
    >> The Lobbyist 03/11/12(Sun)09:41 No.18286449
    I suggest we simply tax the xeno weaponry out of heavily populated areas.

    Keep in mind, we have a number of costly projects going on.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)09:41 No.18286451

    He looks at you across the table.

    "I don't see why you'd want to know about their war-making ability, as it's generally the PDFs job to fight wars, any Militia forces would be volunteers assisting PDF forces. Unless you want to institute a Planetary Militia, in which case the Governor usually provides weapons. Besides, it's not like we're threatening to overthrow the government"
    >> Experienced Rogue Trader 03/11/12(Sun)09:42 No.18286453

    Combine these 2 ideas
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)09:43 No.18286464
    I did...
    >> Backbencher 03/11/12(Sun)09:44 No.18286466
    instill a planetary militia then? as an addition to a core, loyal PDF?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:46 No.18286474

    Declaring open-season on xenotech is too radical too not get us purged. Tell them we're willing to compromise with a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy of xenotech being illegal but tacitly ignored unless you're making a scene with it.

    Heavy weapons present far less of a problem but they must be registered for the purposes of coordinating a planetary defense AND avoiding them falling into the hands of the cults. Emphasise the danger of the cults and i'm sure they'll uynderstand
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:47 No.18286479
    Read some parts but still at a loss. How are we playing this governor? What is the situation?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:49 No.18286489
    Just pointing out that cutting our rogue trader buddy in on a little bit of xeno trade might help us draw a favour or two out of him and could potentially tie in with our gambling tourism strategy, the same people who visit a planet for gambling are the same people who might show an interest in xenotech and this could only be profitable for our company.
    >> sk- the Gubernatorial public speaker 03/11/12(Sun)09:49 No.18286490

    (good natured laugh, but we aren't fooled by that threat)

    Naturally not, but in the event of a crisis, it would be good to know what segments of the population are more likely to be able to take care of matters on their own, and where support from the military will be needed most direly. Lest you forget, we are neighbors with three ork worlds, and while this planet is largely untouched by them, that only makes us a more likely target for the next Waaugh, be it a month from now or thirty years down the road. Frankly, I am suprised that one hasn't happened already. Our concern is for the safety of our people, and the ability of the PDF to work and coordinate effectively with you and yours in the event of a crisis. Having information of that nature on hand BEFORE the outbreak of a crisis would allow for far less confusion during one.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)09:51 No.18286497

    "No one is about to start using Pulse Rifles on a public range, if that's what you mean. We're aware of the Inquisitorial stance on such practices, and while, we thank you for the offer, would rather not involve the Mechanichus"

    "Aside from that, it isn't like the influx of Xenos weaponry is a problem, no one is really manufacturing autocannons on-planet, almost all of the "Exotic", as you put it, are leftovers from the War."

    "In fact, the largest cache of imported Xenos weaponry in recent history...Came through our own beloved Planetary Governor."
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:51 No.18286498
    About the guns, may is suggest the aforementioned registry requirement.

    Kinda like the brits had with the postal office back in the day.

    A permit you pay for the price of paper (plas data slate) and printing only, purely for responsible accounting.

    And for the xeno weapons perhaps a bit of cosmetic approach. new casings and bodykits, to make them more imperial. Encourage local gun accessories to produce some imperial styled body kits for tau and other xeno weapons in accordance with the registry numbers talk with the some loyal local admech about it if it would be somehow acceptable to convert the machines of the xeno to serve the omnisiah and turn them against their masters. like new grey chassis aquila and mechanicus blessings etc.

    Also try to integrate partial integrate the militias with the PDF. Those that have former military experience as oficers and NCOs and resistance fighters encouraged to get jobs as local enforcers, fire-fighters etc, unless they have special skills , like say , medicae, or enginseers.

    Not a obligatory action for all militia members but a encouraged one. recognizing their service with tau and imperial resistance as active service time, etc.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:53 No.18286509
    On an unrelated note, we should make long-term plans to construct a planetary redoubt/over-grown Arbites fortress to hold out for relief or to fall back on in case of a major Genestealer outbreak, Waaagh or Chaos revolt.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)09:53 No.18286515
    "But you have," she retorts, "on multiple occasions, most notably just a moment ago."

    The measured ex-captain gives the congregation a moment to themselves before continuing, "Now you must realize that I and my subordinates have been extremely level with you, mainly because the level of infrastructure that has survived Rodoris' misrule is, quite simply, mind-boggling for a system on the Eastern Fringe; any other Governor installed here would have most likely led a bloody crusade to stamp every last ounce of patriotic independence out."

    "I do not know how many men are capable of seeing value in Daysimir as it is currently, but I, at least, can see it for the roughly polished jewel that it is. Your concerns and demands, both arrogant and rightly deserving as they are, cannot be addressed immediately nor can they all go your way. If we are to rebuild Daysimir into a palacial manufactory and produce from her heavy bosom the tide of of gold and glory that I see her capable of, I need you good people to give my government a few ounces more cooperation. I am fully capable of being benevolent and fair as you wish me to, but should you force my hand then I left few choices by the greater decree of Imperial Law."
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:54 No.18286520
    >"In fact, the largest cache of imported Xenos weaponry in recent history...Came through our own beloved Planetary Governor."
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:55 No.18286523
    and local weapons and ammo production. One never knows when he will be cut of from supply.

    Else you are a militia, police or resistance movement and not a self respecting local military defence force
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:55 No.18286528
    Wait? Arent we a Lord Governor? A FUCKIN LORD GOVERNOR?

    Why are we negotiating? What the fuck guys? We should rule with an iron fist...
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)09:56 No.18286532
    I'll hold this comment if we like SK's better
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)09:58 No.18286541
    "You see, Rodoris was Corrupt. he was worse than corrupt, actually, he was a fool. But not a complete idiot. He knew that sooner or later the Imperium would crack down on him for his practices, and so we ask ourselves, what is a Planetary Governor on the Eastern Fringe to do when he wants a safe haven from Imperial judgement but does not wish to give up his throne? What...alternatives to the Emperor present themselves in this situation?"

    He leans across the table and grins.

    "Why, the majestic Tau Empire of course."
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)09:58 No.18286543
    this sounds like a good policy draft for a legalized and sanctioned approach.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)09:59 No.18286547

    we really need to get to the bottom of this clusterfuck
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)10:00 No.18286555
    god dammit
    >> sk- the Gubernatorial public speaker 03/11/12(Sun)10:02 No.18286565

    Funnily enough, I kind of like yours.

    Not sure how to respond to this latest bit. if he is implying that the previous govenor was a tau sympathizer, then we can use that. just not sure how....
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)10:04 No.18286574
    the sewers seem to indicate some abhorrent mutant ,chaos or otherwise, presence or even genestealers.

    Id say we drive them out somehow. flush the system clean. if they are chaos or genestealers we have to deal with them ASAP.

    Else we can go about them with a registry system similar to the gun implementaton and perhaps have medicae imported to mitigate mutation in future generations. eventual cleaning the genepool out of unstable strains without a murderous purge. collorary to this with a planetary wide medical registry we can detect future mutants, genestealers and psykers in their pregnancies. and any chaos mutation due to regular mandatory check-ups- at least for those employed in imperial or private sectors (so that no chaos or genestealter or other xeno infiltrator gets into a position of authority.)
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)10:05 No.18286579
    I am at a loss as well, should we cut the meeting short and chat with our Rogue Trader buddy
    >> Backbencher 03/11/12(Sun)10:05 No.18286580

    it seems a bit like he's either trying to get a feel on how we react or provoke us in order to provide justification for an uprising.......
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)10:06 No.18286588
    mm, but most of the Imperium, including Captains-cum-Planetary Governors, are not aware of this or at least don't care to invest in the precaution

    our upbringing would reflect this commonality unless we were of exceptional, and I do mean absolutely exceptional upbringing
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)10:07 No.18286590
    Since they probably got the last governor sent by the Imperial authorities, it's kinda understandable that they'd be vary of his replacement.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)10:14 No.18286624
    One dead give-away for Genestealers is the appearance of new Ecclesiarchy or charismatic movement with too much emphasis on "the family" or "protecting the children". Classic Genestealer SOP, that is.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)10:14 No.18286625

    "He was planning on making Daysimir into a Tau world once again, foolishly believing that, once safely tucked behind the Greater Good, he would be safe to continue in exactly as he had before, on his terms."

    "He failed to recognize that with the PDF in its atrophied state, he would be overthrown within hours of the Tau occupation, that he would most likely be executed by some random Fire Warrior in a cell beneath the Palace."

    "You were not here during the war, and cannot know what we endured. But you can understand this, that those of us that fought in that terrible War would sooner die than see our grandchildren in Tau Re-Education camps."

    He leans back and sighs "I feel that we've been the victims of a bit of a misunderstanding. We are not scary, hardcore anti-government types. We are not Anarchists. And we are most certainly not Rebels."

    "We are the last of the elite Resistance fighters, and our children and close friends, gathering together to serve as the organized Special Forces of a general uprising against a Traitor that would have us bending knee to Ethereals."

    "Now that that threat has passed, we want nothing more than to go home. All that we ask is that you give your word to not send Arbites hit squads after us in the night, to not confiscate weapons from a people that have more than earned the right to wield them, and to turn a blind eye to our friendship with our former blood-allies, so that we can disband in peace and return to our homes, our families, our fields waiting to be sown, our workshops that have stood empty for far too long."

    "Is that such a great thing to ask?"
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 03/11/12(Sun)10:15 No.18286629
    perhaps we got into the navy due to a 0.1 over average mutant deviancy test , due to our proper prenatal medicae care. (blood plasma imbalance, lower gravitational adaptation, whatever.) and are thus painfully aware of how proper medicae use is crucial- for if it were not for that 0.1 percent we went over the acceptance bar we would not be who we are.
    >> sk- the Gubernatorial public speaker 03/11/12(Sun)10:18 No.18286653
    actually, this is a good point to bring up our little sewers problem.

    "The sympathies and failings of the previous governor aside, I have no intention of letting the Tau return, but at the moment, we have a more immediate problem to deal with.

    Preliminary investigations into the corruption and waste fostered by the previous administration have revealed that there exists in the bowels of our fair capital, a most perfidious enemy. Weather it is a gene-stealer cult, the depredations of Chaos, some band of militia mistrusting another imperial governor right after the departure of the previous one, I care not. What matters is that it exists and is a threat to this city and by extension, this planet as a whole.

    Given the lack of a competent military force outside of your own groups, I currently lack a way to excise this wound from our planet, and I have no wish to allow it to exist for any longer than it already has. The safety of the citizens of this planet is of utmost importance, and if I cannot safeguard those in the capital, then none will feel safe. The disappearances have been mounting rapidly, and I fear that they will shortly be hitting the critical mass at which the public at large notices and panics. This is of course, a scenario we all wish to avoid, and so I require your aid in dealing with this problem. Consider the regulation of your various arms from the past, and the disposition of your militias to be your bargaining chip on the table, the Imperial sanction of your actions and munitions mine.

    Or are you so prideful of your Independence that you will ignore the plight of your fellow citizens simply to spit in my eye?
    >> Experienced Rogue Trader 03/11/12(Sun)10:20 No.18286663

    I think he just overcame my will save. Anybody wanna take that?
    >> Experienced Rogue Trader 03/11/12(Sun)10:22 No.18286673

    and sk saves the day!
    >> sk- the Gubernatorial public speaker 03/11/12(Sun)10:22 No.18286674
    fuck. didn't see the new post. just pretend that my last speechy bit was a little more sympathetic to them and that yes, we love them and they have our endorsement.

    actually, it fits rather well, just with some slight modifications.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 03/11/12(Sun)10:27 No.18286692

    response proposal:

    "No it is not. And I concur. However, in your Troublesome history of pain you acquired certain knowledge and skills that are in rather high demand at the moment for the security of Daysimir. In your own words you characterized yourself as 'organized Special Forces'. You do understand how it would be beneficial to continue your service to the Planet, in order to ensure its security. "

    "Further more, due to the proximity of the many threats, xeno and of ruinous powers, every weapon must be accounted for. Knowledge is power after all. And the weapons must be accounted for. Should they be used in nefarious acts, their owners should be able to be identified and held accountable- and if they get lost or stolen immediately acknowledged."

    "I do not wish to mandatory draft you into service, or otherwise restrict the use of your property, but the property must be accounted for. And iff possible i would very much like to have loyal Daysimir citizens shaping the defence of Daysimir and not outsourced personel from who knows where. And while your homesteads stood abandoned for too long, i whis to provide you with a opportunity to retain your activity and service to Daysimir while still returning to a semblance of normality with a proper family life. Serving in the new forming PDF, or as Enforcers would be a apt compromise. And allow your knowledge be used in the best way for yourselves and dasymir at the same time while retaining apt compensation. For those still wiling to serve and safeguard Dasymir, of course. I would not wish to impose on veterans and heroes. "
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)10:27 No.18286693
    "Great, make me feel like the horrid tyrant why don't you; I have watched ships under my command and the men I've personally known crewing them, as impersonal as that might sound to you who have served aboard a ship, be consigned to the depths of the void only kissed by the glimmer of distant suns as their reward and I have felt only the ice of those depths in remembrance. I bear you no ill will, you who have fought and sacrificed as much as any man upon the Cadian Gate or beneath the aged bulkhead of a warship, but there is and can be no respite yet for we have far too much work to do, too little to do it with, not enough time to do it in, and too few people dedicated to seeing it done. You may go to your homes and sleep soundly tonight and perhaps the next if our mutual enemies will allow it for a time, but I will be calling you back to service. It will be far too soon for your liking and far too much will be asked of you."

    "Of that is the only thing I can assure you so long as you serve in The Emperor's Light; little else but misery, terror, and wanton death waits outside it."
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)10:29 No.18286705
    heh, now we have three writers champing at the bit with every reply
    >> sk- the Gubernatorial public speaker 03/11/12(Sun)10:31 No.18286719
    awwwww yeah. its funny because our speeches kind of blend well together.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/12(Sun)10:34 No.18286739
    We're also auto saging.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)10:34 No.18286742

    He sits up straight, when he speaks his voice is cold, and you can feel glares from the Resistance side of the table focusing on you.

    "We were aware of a situation regarding the Sewers beneath our Capitol, but preferred to first deal with our negotiations here, son that we could investigate without worrying about our families being black-bagged in the night. In fact, I have information concerning this threat that you would no doubt find useful, and had intended to bring it up with you in this very meeting. Regardless of whether we came to an agreement with you today, we had planned on descending in force to combat this threat."

    "I wish to clear up a little misunderstanding before we continue, we are not "the" Militia. The Militia is every adult on this planet with a weapon and the will to fight against a foreign or domestic foe so that his children may be free. Which, in effect, means virtually every adult on this planet. We could be more accurately referred to as "The Resistance", to differentiate between us and every farmer with a shotgun from here to the poles."

    "Secondly, while I can understand where you're coming from with your arguments for regulation, you have to understand that it's not having our weapons cataloged that we fear, it's our government knowing who to arrest to eliminate any opposition to them that we fear"

    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 03/11/12(Sun)10:35 No.18286751
    well the overall feel is the same. we could integrate them.

    and separate them with playing with goggles, sipping drinks or going over data slates, cut out contradictions ,etc. but this is not novel grade material.

    So just having them referenced as a amalgam for the GM would be ok.

    it seems we want them to serve voluntarily, those who still wish and have the damned guns registered (just in case - hey we are not banning them they can at least agree to this. in case someone commits robbery or murder with them it is beneficial for them too.) and continuing to serve with porper benefits is something they should consider, since i doubt all of them are former civilians and have something to return to , that is better than imperial commission.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)10:36 No.18286754

    I'll archive and make a new thread.
    >> Trade Advisory Legislator 03/11/12(Sun)10:39 No.18286770

    arresting ? that is stupid. considering that i anticipate a rather large amount of privately owned weapons that would be a waste of time. and resources.

    and they are technically militias. militias tend to be organized. semandtics. resistance can be non violent or sabotage related.

    they were terrorist cells but we are trying not to antagonize them. and we want said terrorist cells to run security against any other terrorist cells of the chaos and tyranid nature.

    Damn is the guy thick headed.
    >> The Mediator 03/11/12(Sun)10:43 No.18286793
    He is, yes, but then again think how thick-headed Rodoris must have been in comparison; we'll have to shake him and every other member of the Resistance of the notion that we are like him.
    >> sk- the Gubernatorial public speaker 03/11/12(Sun)10:43 No.18286795
    Davos, you misunderstand our intentions.

    We are not here to declare martial law. We are not here to crush this planet under our boot heel. We are here to see this planet prosper above all else.

    Why would we alienate the populace by imprisoning the very heroes that kept this world imperial? To do so would be counter-intuitive, counter-productive, and serve no purpose. Your words here, and the intentions you bespoke only further the very point I made in asking you here. That you could be one of the greatest assets in assisting effective and just rule here that I could possibly wield. I would no more imprison you and yours than you would throw away your rifle before engaging in a firefight.
    >> TheGameroom !E1yyNEjdEc 03/11/12(Sun)10:49 No.18286839

    New thread.

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