Blue = Homosexual

You didn't know this?

This thread already happened I think...

Blue is bondage/control.

>>18797111
Well, I must've not been around for that.

Hm. Something as kinky as bondage for a color other than black?

What would control consist of?

What exactly is the difference between 'vanilla' and 'clean'/'platonic'? They seem like pretty much the same thing to me.

What about green representing the whole 'free love' movement, sex without commitment, etc.

As for blue...not sure what it could be. perhaps it could be erotica? That sort of fits...kind of a 'mind sex' thing.

>>18797148

BONDAGE IS A PRETTY STRONG PARALLEL TO CONTROL, AS A DECK ARCHETYPE. VERY PERMISSION-BASED AND A MATTER OF KEEPING YOUR SUBMISSIVE FEELING VULNERABLE AND UNSTEADY.

BLACK WOULD, CONSEQUENTLY, BE MORE A REPRESENTATION OF THE PAIN ASPECT, EITHER ON YOURSELF OR OTHERS.

>>18797148
Blue is more mental control, Bondage is in black and secondarily in white.

>>18797149
Well, white would be fun, clean, romantic stuff without any sex. While green would just be sex and plain sex acts.

I sort of like the idea of blue being like, mind sex or something. But like what?

White - Controlled, loving, Vanilla
Red - Wild and crazy, experimental, multiple participants
Green - Rough and tumble, free love as per nature
Blue - Bondage and power-play
Black - Masochist and pain/pleasure

>>18797164

I dunno about that. Just because blue lends itself to 'control' archetypes, doesn't mean that that is the core of blue's philosophy. Bondage is arguably more black, since black is all about the subjugation of others rather than cooperation. And the sadomasochistic aspect bleeds into red (think Rakdos). I think BDSM portrayed right will ultimately spread over all three, but primarily be centered in black.

>>18797211
>black is all about the subjugation of others rather than cooperation

I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THIS WAS A WHITE THEME? WELL, "SUBJUGATION", "COOPERATION AT THE EXPENSE OF INDIVIDUALITY", SAME THING.

>>18797167
>>18797167
Power play and maybe hypnosis if we're going that far.

>>18797206
Blue is also denial

>>18797206
While I understand the desire to give all the colors very clear sexual identities, I feel as though again, this isn't for a gag.

It would hopefully be something actually playable, and I would be lucky to have one person to play sexy magic with. And expecting them to go for bondage or pain or multiple partners seems like asking for a bit too much.

>>18797221

White is about order, which transcends individuals. Each must do their part to maintain the community. Black is the opposite; it is highly individualistic. Everyone wants to dominate, and they fight each other for the top, but the people at the top aren't beholden to any sort of 'ideal', they do what they want.

wait? this is even a question?

blue = depression = forever alone and ohgodwhathaveidone sex

>>18797244

Well, including things like that without making them a major focus would be a happy medium - there's no need to have every black card involve whips and chains, but a few could appeal to those who enjoy it while also representing the more taboo aspects of sex. The same with the other colours - red cards representing wild passion could run the whole spectrum from merely unusual positions to multiple partners and more.

After all, you're unlikely to play this with somebody too strict and uptight, so including these things give you something to have a laugh and joke about if it's not your thing, while also helping those who enjoy it. And besides, could always find something new about your opponent, which assuming they're hot, is awesome.

>Sex
>MtG
>On /tg/

/tg/ cannot into either of these. This is gonna go south, fast.

>>18797289
Oh yeah, I feel that's totally the right way of going about this.

But like, I feel as though having it be a major focus would be a bad call.

So, what would be a good way to implement black and blue and red without being too overwhelmingly kinky?

>>18797211
Black is about power, or the desire for power. Its core is the sadism / masochism aspect, but not necessarily the bondage aspect.

Control and Order would be blue. Emotion and Sensuality is red.

While it could be spread out over the three, in its core it is more oriented towards black/blue - a black blue deck would be you as the 'master' taking pains to force the other to be your 'slave'. Without *red* added into that you would just be the creepy fuck with the power and control, the red aspect would turn you into the seducer making your opponent *want* to comply to you.

The way I see a 'sex' themed set working out is that blue would be the logical portion of the brain either demanding control over others - or attempting to resist that same control by others (white also plays into this through virtue, innocence, and purity, allowing the opposition of black). Green would be primal in nature and deal very much with animal attraction (and reproductive imperative).

Black and Red would be the demanding seductress.
Green and Red would be the smoking hot (slightly emotional) babe with a killer body that you'll *want* to make hundreds of children with.
Green and White would be that innocent pure innocent girl with a rocking body that needs your love and devotion before a commitment
White and Blue, demands love and control is very pure and resistant to what others desire
Blue and Black, Demands *power* and control, can be very very cruel.

I'm not sure if I've defined the aspects well enough for split colors, and I haven't really done anything for cross colors.

>>18797321

Blue - teasing and lingerie. Most couples will do at least some of this, and it fits well with blue's aim on control, denying or limiting, and basically slowing things down.

Red - stripping, removing clothing. Reckless and impulsive as with traditional red, and many couples will at least put on a show for each other.

Black - power exchange. Even outside bondage, plenty of sexual acts place one partner in a clearly superior position, which isn't kinky, but is definitely in line with black cards.

>>18797412
Thank you dear god, you've figured blue out for me.

>>18797290
>This is gonna go south, fast.

Not in the way you're thinking.

>>18797412
Dude, solid!

Cool, so, I approve of these. Now, so, we have clear color identities for these, more or less. Set-mechanics?

Not too many keywords, but a few might be a good idea.

>>18797452

Plenty of Enchant Player spells would work well for imposing limitations, and also encourage certain behaviours. While steering away from anything as overt as "5: Tap target player" is probably a good idea, something more along the lines of "Enchant player. Enchant player can't put on clothing. If damage would be dealt to enchanted player, they may remove an item of clothing. If they do, prevent that damage" is probably right in line with what we're going for.

And for the love of god, we're not using the Infect mechanic. The jokes are too numerous and terrible.

>>18797505
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering#Colors_of_Magic

Refer to this. Look hard at the elements in question and try to see how mechanics would fit.

>>18797505
Hm... yeah, I guess enchant player makes sense.

Should "strip" be keyworded? What sex acts need to be keyworded, if any?

>>18797452
I think mechanics shouldn't force players to do things (or concede), but should just reward them for doing so or punish them for not doing so.

For example, there shouldn't be a card that forces an opponent to take off clothing, but there could be ones that deal more damage if an opponent doesn't, or that ask you to as an additional cost.

Really /tg/?

>>18797572

Probably, yes. We also need an alternate word for flashing. Strip is simple enough to define, removing clothing, and flash being the temporary lifting of clothing. We do need some way of preventing clothes to simply be replaced once removed, as that rather defeats the purpose.

>>18797582

Agreed. Such effects should probably be made an ability word, for example - "Clothlink - ~ deals 2 damage to target creature. That creature's controller may Strip 1. If they do not, ~ deals 2 damage to that player."

Or possibly a less shitty ability word. The point still stands.

Can we get more cards posted?

>>18797582

Also in line with this, this can be used in different ways depending on the colour. For example, red would use stripping to fuel kicker and the like, black uses it as extra effects if the target doesn't, white would use it to prevent damage and such, blue forces opponents to strip in a similar way to mana leak, and green... I dunno, never actually played green.

>>18797648

Got no art, but I could whip up some basic ideas for cards and post them. Only got about 20 minutes though.

>>18797648
We don't have any cards made yet, that one up top was simply the only SFW card I could find in that one /d/ set. Which wasn't very good at all.

>>18797622
Hm, that seems like a neat card. 2R, common?

Needs moar Disrobing Scepter.

>>18797622
I don't think a keyword action is needed: "remove an article of clothing" isn't that wordy. I see stripping as a major mechanic, so it could certainly have an ability word (or multiple, for different uses of stripping).

Should it be a given that clothes can't be put back on, or should there be cards to punish players when they do? Either way, a few cards could let you safely replace clothing.

>>18797582
'Fleshlink' or 'Lustmagic' or "Tease" (flash a portion of of your body / do something 'sexy' for additional effect, or your opponent may use this to prevent said effect).

"Expose" or "Strip" ("as an additional cost, you may remove an article of clothing for additional effect" or "your opponent may remove an article of clothing to prevent effect")

White and Blue could use these defensively, Red / Black offensively, Not sure where green fits... probably more towards offensively.

>>18797671

That's probably how I'd price it, yes. Keeping sexual acts and removal as clothing as an optional part is probably good. Shall we make a start on some cards for consideration.

>>18797697

Have it as a given that it can't be replaced, with maybe a few "You may put on an item of a clothing. If you do, you lose 5 life" and similar things.

"Counter target spell unless its owner removes target article of clothing. (You can only target articles of clothing you can see.)"

>>18797665
>>18797710
Seeing some cards would be pretty dang cool, yeah.

>>18797729

Wow, someone actually remembered my card. Now my life is complete.

>>18797752

Uploading the rest of my shit

>>18797772

>>18797776

Here, complain about how broken this is.

>>18797752
Too powerful.

Should be UU1, Counter target spell unless its controller pays 4, Opponent may 'Tease' to reduce this to 2, or 'Strip' to reduce this to 0.

It's not supposed to be a powerful set, its supposed to be a playful set

>>18797776
>generate infinite mana
>rape: the card

Something like this, perhaps?

>>18797665
>white stripping to prevent damage
Such a resonant use of the mechanic! The blue one ties in very well with blue's existing themes too.

Black could get the opposite of blue, rewarding itself unless an opponent strips. Stripping is pretty easy, though, so there should still be a lesser effect even if an opponent strips.

Green could use clothing as a resource, trading it for life, tokens or mana. It could count articles of clothing, giving you life equal to the number you have, giving a standing bonus if you have more than any opponent, or count the total number worn by anyone, encouraging you to keep yours on and opponents to take theirs off.

>>18797817

>>18797847

>>18797847
>>18797880
Yes, yes!

"As long as you are wearing more clothing than any opponent..." and "As long as you are wearing nothing/less clothing than any opponent..." could be threshold/hellbent/metalcraft style ability words. They could be assigned to specific colors or used on cards of a similar theme in any color.

>>18797776

At rare I think that should at least be instant speed for a quick tactical grope. Maybe discombobulate your opponent while they're thinking about attackers or just dump some open mana on their turn. Fits better with the card's name too.

>>18797847
>>18797880

I imagine it was be incredibly easy to "win" this game just by wearing as much clothing as physically possible.

I feel very sorry for whoever plays this to "win", though.

>>18797919
So, Tease, Strip, and Clothlink:Less (as long as you are wearing less than your opponent) and Clothlink:More (as long as you are wearing more than your opponent) are set mechanics?

We've got something going here.

>>18798079
And that's were the advanced rules come in.

1129.1 Players must wear an equal amount of clothing at the start of the game.
1129.2 A pair of socks is a single article of clothing.
1130.1 The amount of clothing at the start of the a formal game is 5 articles.
etc etc.

Whelp I guess I just confirmed myself for being a sad individual!

>>18797817
A lot of white creatures could operate off of clothlink:more... It should be noted that it is supposed to be *incredibly* hard to gain clothes in this set, even amongst white. Strip should be a somewhat rare mechanic on white cards, but 'tease' could be a bit more prominent.

Green could allow for a decent mix of less / more, teasing to gain creatures/effects, with 'stripping' being even more powerful.

So for some example creatures/spells.

WW 'Chaste Knight', Clothlink:More - Chaste Knight has First Strike 2/2
RR1 'Lust Elemental' Clothlink:Less - Lust Elemental has Double Strike - 3/1
G "Seductive Nymph' Clothlink:Less Seductive Nymph may be tapped to produce 1 mana of any color. 1/1

I cant think up anything amazing for blue or black at the moment, but I think what I've got so far is pretty decent.

>No doing it compleation style

>>18798322
Sorry, forgot to add that *most* creatures in the set should have a clothlink effect. With that in mind, I may have changed my mind on how easy it should be to gain / lose clothing if its going to be a core mechanic.

I don't even want to start of artifacts yet.

>>18798346

All I know is there needs to be a Goblin Panty Raider. I have no idea what its does it just needs to happen.

>>18798442
1RR

If an opponents underwear is visible goblin panty raider may remove that underwear, this removal cannot be prevented.

(eyes on the prize boys)

I hope this is somewhat balanced

>>18798442
RR2 "Goblin Panty Raider" : Strip:1 - You may cast this creature for RR. Haste. If Goblin Panty Raider deals combat damage to a player, they must strip:1. 3/2

Sound good?

R1 - Goblin Panty Raider
When Goblin Panty Raider comes into play, any player may remove their pants. If they do, exile Goblin Panty Raider.
3/3

>>18798508
>>18798536
>>18798564

Wonderful, /tg/, you never cease to delight and amaze me.

With all these clothing removal mechanics I have a feeling that people are gonna dress in layers if they actually ever use these

Coming in with 5 articles of clothing (Socks, Pants, Shirt, Underwear, Undershirt/Bra), I'm trying to keep the creatures / spells that conditionally make the enemy strip at around 3-4 points of damage or a similarly strong effect. Thus 1 piece of clothing = ~4 life. Your opponent should be naked by the end if you win, and if its a very close game (remember the set is meant to be *playful*) you should both be close to naked (and probably turned on).

When it comes to comparing clothing amounts, instead of counting articles of clothing, instead divide it by layers.
So for example:
Clothlink Clothed- If no undergarments are exposed...
Clothlink Underpants- If you are wearing undergarments and more/less clothing...
Clothlink Naked- If you are wearing no clothing...

I could see some White knight card, that you can sacrifice instead of removing a piece of clothing.

>>18798831
White censorship, Ho!

>>18798831
Chaste Knight {1}{W}{W}
Creature- Human Knight
First Strike
Sacrifice Chaste Knight: If a card would have you remove an article of clothing, you do not remove that article of clothing.
2/2

Seems like we need some ideas for Blue and Black.
In my mind the Black spells should be sort of ambiguous so the participants can decide what level of kink they're comfortable with. Spanking will probably be very useful here.
Some blue spells keeping with the bondage theme could make it more difficult for player to play by doing things like forcing a player to play with one hand behind their back or thumbs rubber banded to the rest of their hand. Against certain decks the opponent of a solid blue deck may find they have to rely entirely on their opponent for basic game functions like tapping and drawing.

>>18798842

Obviously, this means some Black cards should make you "sacrifice" an article of clothing to cast them.

Obviously, there has to be a white cockblocking card like Pacifism that makes you unable to lose a piece of clothing, or something

>>18798860
Don't worry guys, just gonna type verification in the subject field. Nothing to see here.

Flash Draw {U}
Instant
Target player draws a card.
You may Tease to have that player draw 2 cards instead, or Strip 1 to have that player draw 3 cards.

Choice of Removal {1}{B}
Instant
Destroy target creature unless its controller Strips 1.

Also, add a subrule that you can't Strip if already naked. Perhaps add a card as well like:

The real winner {W}{U}{R}{B}{G}
Enchantment
Whenever a player is naked, he or she loses the game.

Hmm... Functional reprint of Goblin Mime.

Goblin Gimp - 1R
Creature - Goblin Gimp
When you speak, sacrifice Goblin Gimp.
2/2

>>18799056
Better colorshift that to black or blue.

>>18799056

Why not just make it 1B, there have been plenty of black goblins and it fits better thematically.

>>18799056
should also prevent use of hand(s)

Watch control players come dressed in full jousting harness.

Sexing Devil - R
Creature - Devil
When Sexing Devil enters the battlefield any player may Strip - 1, if they do, sacrifice Sexing Devil
4/3

>>18799078
Works for me, the original was red though, that's why I left it as is. But I was originally thinking Black.

These are great and all, but I think you guys are forgetting something. To get any use out of these, you'd have to play against a girl. And a cute girl, at that. And in my experience cute Magic playing girls are absolutely nonexistent

>>18799078
>>18799056
this seems more controlling, I could have sworn that was the agreed to be the purview of blue?

or am I mistaken?...

>>18799104
you best be makin' me some red succubi cards boy

>>18799133
I played against one at the DA pre release and there was one looking thru the card boxes at my FLGS when I was there today to preorder AVR

>>18799162
huh. do you live in a big city? my hometown has 70,000 people and ive only ever seen 2 girls playing magic, and both were hambeasts

>>18799133
It must suck being a straight nerd.

Baring Bolt {R}
Instant
You and target player both Strip 1.

Probably higher rarity for the forced removal.

Hmm... possibly some form of red enchantment which does damage to a player whenever they touch themselves. (Even if it's just touching their face)

>>18799230
You mean Blue?

>>18799133

If it happens for any of us, even just one, then the entire thing will be worthwhile.

>>18799180
woodfield mall bro, 2nd biggest one in the US, it's not exactly local for me tho ( I live about an hour away) but I like going there anyway cause its a halfway point between my house and a friend's, the people are nice and there's a GW a few hundred feet away (some of the GW employees hang out in the card store from time to time)

>>18799198
it does. ive thought about going gay but i just cant do it. vaginas are too awesome. i guess ill have to find a cute girl and turn her into a nerd

>>18799258
Just sayin man, the inside of an anus doesn't have a gender.

>>18799266
it does if there's a prostate nearby

>>18799266
thats the thing, i think assholes are nasty, i cant do anal

>>18799286
Well then you're just a prude in general.

>>18799280
I think you mean "if there is more than one prostate nearby"...

If white is the pure it should have a few cards that allow them to put removed cloths back on.

I like this thread fa/tg/uys keep it up.

>>18799237
It was the direct damage thing, which I thought was more in the pervue of red.

Goblin Clotheshorse - (X)WW
(Image of a Goblin covered in many, many different forms of clothing)
Creature - Goblin
Goblin Clotheshorse comes into play with X Clothing counters on it.
You may sacrifice a Clothing token instead of removing an article of clothing.
"Kinda defeats the spirit of things"
0/1

>>18799341
Make it XXW instead.

>>18799141
UU1
Illusion of Desire
Creature - Illusion
Tease : Illusion of Desire gains Flying until end of turn.
2/3

Was originally going to be a red succubus, but then I realized that flying doesnt really suit it that much.

U1
Distracting Whisper / Momentary Glimpse
As an additional cost to this spell, Tease. Counter target spell unless its owner pays 3.

Three Lashes - 1B
Instant
Target Creature gets -3/-3 until the end of turn. The creature's owner may choose to be spanked three times to prevent this.

>>18799198
>implying the average guys who play Magic are more attractive than the average girls

2RB
Wool Clothing
Enchantment
Enchant target player.
At the beginning of Enchanted Player's upkeep Wool Clothing does 1 damage to Enchanted Player for each article of clothing on Enchanted Player. The Enchanted player may Strip -1, if they do, exile Wool Clothing.

"Oh god it just itches so much!"

>>18799468
Mmmm, I don't think that would be very fun as a mechanic. This is supposed to be a *playful* set, hitting can ruin the mood real quick.

It might be better as 'tease' to prevent. Black in this set is about power, not S&M. Forcing another to expose themself or lose a creature is powerful enough.

>>18799491
RB
Threads Undone
Enchantment
Abilities and effects can not prevent a player from Stripping. Clothes may not be regained.

Furries already did this. It's horrible.

There's also xXxenophile the card game, which is actually quite funny and fairly good.

Clothing Transfer {U}{W}
Sorcery
Target player strips 1. You must put on the article of clothing removed.

I've got this idea, but I'm not 100% sure if I'm going about this the right way. The general idea is a way to impose taboos onto players, plus some cards that punish players that break their taboo and others that reward players for submitting to their taboos.

>>18799589

>>18799589
>>18799600
This is what I have so far.

This sounds like an incredibly boring game.

>>18799589
That card in particular is a bad idea in a card game, and well we've already got 4 key-words (Clothcraft:less / more, tease, and strip).

The cards dont really have much impact on the game, and you need something like 3 of them out in order for anything to happen. Please re-think.

Empowering Nudity - GG
Instant
If you are not wearing any clothes, you may play this card instead of removing an item of clothing.
"If it's come this far, why bother?"

>>18799658

I'm confused, what does this do...

Clothing Golem 3

Artifact Creature - Golem

As an additional cost, remove X items of clothing.

Clothing Golem comes into play with 2 plus one counters for each item of clothing removed.

1/1

>>18799726

+1/+1 counters

Blow up Doll XX

Artifact creature - Construct

Blow up Doll's power and toughness are equal to X.

If Blow up doll takes damage, sacrifice it.

X/X

Lube

Equipment

When a creature comes into play under your control, equip Lube to it.

Equipped creature has haste.

>>18799785

Sorry meant to have that cost 2

Need something with Clothes-walking; as long as target player is wearing clothing, this creature is unblockable.

If I show you mine {3}{R}{G}
Sorcery
Each player removes clothing until he or she is wearing an amount of clothing equal to that of the player wearing the least clothing.

Salve of Purity {W}
Choose one of the following- Target player puts on a removed piece of clothing. The next time this turn target player would remove a piece of clothing, that player does not.

Just a Peek {3}{W}
Enchantment
{2} :Use this effect only when you would Strip. You Tease instead.

>>18799829

Trouser Snake 3G

Creature - Snake

Clothingwalk - Trouser Snake is unblockable if opponent is wearing clothes.

2/2

GGG
In All Natures Glory
Enchantment
If you are naked, lands you control produce an additional mana of the same color when tapped for mana.

>>18799829
Coming right up sir.

Horny Beast {3}{G}
Creature - Beast
Clothingwalk (It cannot be blocked as long as the defending player is wearing clothing.)
2/2

as a bonus:

Neurok Pleasure-Suit {2}
Artifact - Equipment
Equipped creature gains shroud.
Tease: Equipped creature loses shroud until end of turn. Any player may play this ability
Whenever you Strip, you may sacrifice Neurok Pleasure-Suit instead.
{1}

>>18799889
>>18799905
Hivemind much?

Sex Shop

Land

T: add 1 to your mana pool

4, T: search your library for an artifact, reveal it, then put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.

>>18799589
>>18799600
>>18799604

We need more of this

>>18799952
No, because those are bad, hyperconditional cards (ie; fucking poorly thought out wanna be combo cards), that aren't much fun and have little mechanical sense.

Bimbofication - the person hit with it isnt even allowed to say its name, nor do *MATH* in a *CARD GAME*.

They're not 'fun', which is what this set is supposed to be, playful and fun. You might have gotten that if you'd read the thread.

>>18800114
The person can ignore their taboo as long as there's no punishment or submission on the field. Afterward, a person has to get creative to play within their taboos or eat the consequences of breaking them. For example, a player could say "that bimbo-thingie" instead of "bimbofication", or ask other players to do their math for them.

>>18799705
Sorry, It was meant to basicly be a way for you to pay the costs of a "strip to do X" card, if you were naked.
Because, well, with green's nature theme, nudism seemed apt.
However, I'm not really that good at magic, and ironically for this thread, I have a killer headache, so getting things to make sense is hard.

>>18800114

At least more of the submission mechanic

>>18800254

Ah I see. If that's the case then it probably better as an enchantment. I like the nudism and nature thing though that was well done. Maybe:

Empowering Nudity 1GG
Enchantment if the enchanted player has no clothing they may reduce any strip cost or effect to 0.

Wording might need work.

Along the same lines:

Nude Beach:
Nude Beach comes into play tapped if its controller has not removed an article of clothing yet.
{T}: for B or G mana
If the player is nude Nude Beach taps for two mana in any combination of G and B.

>>18799133
As the guy who started this thread, my interest is due to the fact that I've played strip magic against the girlfriend who is in fact both a girl and cute, so, I do have someone to play against.

Loving the work I'm seeing here, so, what mechanics are confirmed? Tease, strip and Clotheslink?

>>18799248
So, I got a confirmation that if this becomes even remotely close to a real thing, she's totally down for it.

Which is awesome.

So, if we have the basic keywords sorted, we should decide how big the set is (I'm guessing small set, like DA) and like, what removal we want, what mythics and rares, how many vanilla commons and such.

Have any of you guys attempted making a set before?

...Holy shit /tg/, this sounds awesome. Keep it up you crazy, awesome bastards.

This adds a whole new level of fun to my boyfriend asking me to teach him to play Magic.

I'm really liking the fact that most of the mechanics are gender neutral, by the way.

Also, 'Unzipped' is a great name for the 'set'. How many cards are we thinking? At the moment, we've got a lot of good mechanic ideas, but if we want this to work, we need to plan. Total number of cards, the colour/artifact distribution, the proportion of card types and working out the in-set balance to make sure that it stays playful and fun.

150 cards? Enough to have a bit of variety, but not too much of a stretch.

As for distribution, how about 25 cards of each colour, with the remaining 25 for artifacts, multicolour, lands and the like.

What's more difficult is the distribution of cards within each colour. We need to avoid having multiple redundant options in the same colour, and to make sure each colour has all its basic bases and points on the mana curve covered.

Also, we probably need to decide whether this set designed to work in itself, or to be combined with other cards to add a little extra spice. Or whether the idea would be both?

>>18803743
Alright, cool, you're on the same page. So, DA had 171 cards, and it is a small set. I'd like to base the distribution on a set like the core sets, so we have a nice simple distribution.

In fact, I'd be down for basing it even as stupidly and plainly as a parody or redone version of a core set, to simplify matters and make it so much more likely to happen.

Hrm... There's already been one card of a 'Wear the opponents clothes' type, but could that be expanded a bit?

A black spell which lets you strip 1 to force your opponent to strip 2, and lets you put back on one of the bits of clothing they took off?

Perhaps a red creature or spell which gets a boost if you're wearing a bit of the opponents clothing, or a bit of the clothing of the alternate gender?

Not enough to push any hardcore genderbending theme, just adding in a fun little exchange and embarrasment now and then.

Perhaps a spell that forces an opponent to put on a bit of your discarded clothing? Or, gives them the option. Not sure about additional mechanics or colour basis, though.

>>18803901
with a small goblin wearing underpants as a mask or hat.

What about a red or white spell (perhaps both? or green in there somewhere) '...This isn't my shirt'- Each player may put on one piece of clothing that they do not own.

>>18803959
I'd say red.

But yeah, set specifics now. Like, card ideas are great and all, but we should make sure to get some groundwork first. Top down design doesn't really work for WHOLE sets.

So, I'm fine with that 25 cards of each.

>>18804080

Okay then... 25 of each with 25 floating for artifacts etc.

Within each colour, how should the 25 be distributed between creatures, instants, sorceries and enchantments.

Perhaps a base of 7 creatures, 4 instants, 4 sorceries and 4 enchantments, with the remaining six allocated varying on the colour. For Green they might be creatures and enchantments, while blue could have additional instants? Or is standardising card type distribution among colours, even to this degree, a bad idea?

Also, mana costs... How do you plan the mana curve for a set?

Oh, I'm not sure about pricing, but...

Goblin Blow Up Doll
Artifact Creature
Sacrifice Goblin Blow Up Doll, opponent must Strip 1, or suffer 2 damage.
"When Goblins make a blow up doll, they make a Blow Up doll"
0/1

>>18804124
Look for the "Nuts & Bolts" MaRo articles for details on how to do entire set design.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/78

Oooh, handy. Thanks for the tip.

So... To start making a distribution, we need to know the rarity distribution. Do we bother making Mythics, or could that overcomplicate things?

I'm not actually sure how rarity distribution works in sets... But, this being a custom set, rarity only really counts for drafting. Still, drafting with this would be rather fun.

Anyone know how the usual rarity distribution works?

>>18804342
This should help you with that:
http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/node/3216

Only the dead...

>>18804370

Awesome. Although, Wow, those proportion numbers are long... Although, fudging to two decimal places, I end up five cards short. Eh, close enough.

That'd be 63 commons, 39 uncommons, 34 rares and 9 mythic rares, with 5 left over and redistribution possible. (If someone wants to do the more precise sums, be my guest, I'm just too lazy to put the whole thing into a calculator)

Also, seeing as unglued was 94 cards in size (including full-sized lands), I feel like it would be wise to size this set between 90 and 100 cards to help ensure less filler and more quality card design.

>>18804400

Unglued was always intended as an addition to normal MtG, though. I think the hope is that you'll be able to make fully functional Unzipped decks in and of themselves. Or maybe not? Still, with /tg/'s creative power, 150 doesn't seem too hard, and we can always cut down if we've not got enough good ideas.

>>18804399
Personal experience would dictate something along the lines of 66:40:34:9 or if you want a heavier rare density 64:40:36:10.

>>18804415
It should probably be one that can be used stand alone, mixing it with normal sets will be kind of awkward.

>>18804415
As someone who played unglued extensively and has a variety of lulzy decks for casual unglued play, I can assure you that 94 cards was more than enough. Again, my concern is that a larger set size will result in a greater amount of chaff and derivative cards, rather than original ideas.

>>18804415
Making an entire set is hard work, especially the commons. Then again you're working with *completely untouched* design space, which will help.

>>18804425

I like the look of 66, 40, 34, 9.

That'd give us 11 commons, 6-7 uncommons, 5-6 rares and 1-2 mythics per sixth (One for each colour, plus the floating 25 for artifacts etc), of course this can be redistributed a bit if need be. I think that gives us enough to start writing up a skeleton?

>>18804445
Remember to leave 5 slots for full art lands. It wouldn't be an un-set without them.

>think some kind of Landwalk for clothing would be funny
>scan thread
>someone already thought of it

/tg/, I am proud.

>>18804457

I see you've never suffered at the hands of a Hurloon Wrangler before. (Denimwalk could be considered the mechanical precedent to our clothing based mechanics. Apocryphal tales of the Unglued prerelease hold that some players removed their jeans to avoid its attacks.)

Here are some more solid distributions:
Per color (25 each):
11 Commons
7 Uncommon
6 Rares
1 Mythic

Other (24):
BTW, other implies a mix of artifacts, lands, possible multicolored cards, and planeswalkers (if necessary) in the mythic slots
5 basic lands
6 commons
5 uncommon
4 rares
4 mythics

Anon here, doing the drudge work of writing up the card code skeleton. I'll put up a pastebin after I'm done, and save folks the tedium. Modifying it and filling it out will be easier when we have the whole thing set up. Or someone could put it in a googledoc or something, editing it on the fly would be even better.

>>18804507
I support the google doc idea. However, seeing as I am firmly against the constraints of a design skeleton when it comes to designing sets, I won't be able to help out all that much on that. I'll be around to provide balance and mechanical support if necessary though.

>>18804525

It at least gives us somewhere to start, and makes sure we have the minimum necessary to make the set function. We could always leave a certain number of slots outside the skeleton, or just abandon it after we've covered all the essentials.

http://pastebin.com/JUuMiNQm

There's a basic outline of our main five colours, I didn't do the artifacts/others bit as I wasn't sure how we'd work those out. Folks other than me can sketch in the general ideas of what we need.

>>18804534
That's fine, a design skeleton is useful for providing a general idea of set mechanic and card type distribution and I think it is worthwhile to put one together, especially seeing as this is somewhat of a community project. It's just that, personally I've always balanced my sets on the fly because it provides slightly more design flexibility. Anyhow, I'm off to see if I can gather together a bit of art to help with later design.

>>18804478
I was one of those that helped start the idea. When I pointed out that I could take my pants off to avoid the effect, everyone agreed to count me as having done so to save eyes.

>>18804548
Has anyone looked at the idea of doing player equipment for artifacts? This looks like a player matters set, as a general theme, so maybe something that works with that?

If we are to judge by typical custom card threads this will be just as bad as /d/'s attempt.

Can we agree on standardised text for our keywords like Strip? It'd probably speed things up.

>>18804571

That's a good idea, but an advanced one. Lets cover our bases first.

Does someone want to make a googledoc or a 1d4chan page?

(...relatedly, is it possible to make a googledoc anonymous, rather than displaying you as the owner?)

>>18797274
How the hell do you get that when Blue has such a huge emphasis on Control?

How would I find /d/'s attempt? It might be worth reviewing, to salvage any good concepts or just as an example of how not to do it.

>>18804619
I uploaded it a while back, give me a minute.

>>18804619
I too am interested in this failed attempt. It might make finding art a bit easier.

>>18804626
http://www.mediafire.com/?lwl4plzoo77v9zq
Honestly I like some of the concepts. Let's see if we can salvage some.

>>18804636
That's an AdEva RPG

>>18804636

...That's an old edition of AdEva, unless I'm suffering from an extremely bizarre error.

>>18804575
It's hard to standardise Strip because its effects vary beyond "remove an item of clothing" since the colours would probably use it differently. Black/blue/red would use it to hit an opponent to varying degrees, white would probably never force it on an opponent but might hit themself with it as a last resort to prevent negative effects, and green would most likely Strip itself for bonuses/better creatures, sort of like a self-mill thing.

>>18799133
> not being interested in dudes
> 2012

>>18804691
"To Stip X, a player removes X items of clothing he is wearing. A player may not Strip, if he or she isn't wearing enough items of clothing."
Works for all the cases

>>18804691
It can still be standardized in a similar fashion to scry. Maybe something along the lines of strip X (To strip X, remove X articles of clothing.)

>>18804636
>>18804664
Okay I think I've fixed the link
https://rapidshare.com/files/2049878029/d_magic_set.zip

Do we have a standard place to submit ideas for cards for the set, or are we still just kicking them around in this thread?

If it's still just in the thread, I have an idea:

Lovers' Embrace {1UG}
Sorcery
Choose 1: target player sits in your lap or you sit in target player's lap until end of turn. You and target player reveal hands to each other.

The idea is to combine the control aspect of blue with the loving aspect of green. I think I can fine-tune it a bit more, though, such as the name or mana cost.

>>18804725
On that topic, I feel like we should address whether or not we want this set to feature *explicit* art. Now I know that this set is supposed to be explicit and sexual, but I feel like it could reach a larger audience if it focuses more on highly suggestive art themes, rather than straight up pornographic imagery. Take for example, the OP's image. That would be perfectly fine seeing as it is sexual without being pornographic. I feel like we can avoid the same fate as /d/'s set if we keep the art a bit less extreme (a tit here and there is fine, but no straight up porn). Opinions /tg/?

>>18804752
I agree, keep it suggestive but not outright pornographic.

>>18804752

I'd support this wholeheartedly.

>>18804725
You guys were right. This set sucks.

>>18804752
Every card doesn't need to have explicit nudity. I think it'd be amusing if the rarer a card was, the more erotic the art.

Although I don't think we should go much beyond nipples. Suggestive art is fine, but porn is just going to make it distracting to the players.

>>18804778
K, thanks for all the feedback. This should help fine tune the art search. Now, then, I'm off to find suggestive fantasy art. Shouldn't be too hard, should it?

>>18804795
Also, I like the idea of possibly using slightly more pornographic art but hiding anything obscene behind the text box. For that matter, does anyone know how to overlay images on top of the card in MSE, kind of like how a couple of cards in unglued would have random images in their text boxes?

Blue should be denial, tension and teasing.

As for the cards, I can see some good names like "I'll show you mine, you'll show me yours'"

>>18804752
Keeping it closer to SFW also means we can post cards here.

For those of you using MSE:
>Strip <number>
>To strip {param1}, a player removes {if param1.value == 1 then "an item" else "{english_number(param1)} items"} of clothing he or she is wearing. A player may not strip {param1} if he or she is wearing fewer than {if param1.value == 1 then "one item" else "{english_number(param1)} items"} of clothing.

Seems to work.

>>18804821
Little bit long for a name. Just "I'll show you mine..." with the rest in the the flavour text might work, for an Un set.
Also, for that effect, Each player strips 1?

>>18804833
So it looks something like this.

>>18804833
Works fine.

>>18804835
Make it a pair of cards that play off one another.

>>18804751
As cool a concept as that is, I don't think player contact should be encouraged or a centric theme of cards.

That said...

You Want Me to Do What?
2W
Enchantment
Cumulative W

0: If a spell or ability would cause you to strip, instead put an article of clothing back on. Activate this ability only once per turn.

>>18804853
That might be a little strong?
I'm kind of thinking of strip costs as around 1 mana worth. 1G for a 2/3 vanilla would still be pretty aggressively costed.
I like the idea though, especially in green.

>>18804853
>>18804833
The only problem I can see is that I imagine green would probably WANT to Strip willingly a lot of the time to buff it, hence that creature idea, but the second part of the ruling would make it impossible to do that by the time you were naked, which seems kind of counter-intuitive.

>>18804872
Well you can't strip when you're naked.
Maybe a secondary effect that gives bonuses once you're not wearing any clothes? Could work in green.

>>18804884
Threshold/Fateful Hour style. Call it Au Naturel.

>>18804884
Yay for naked metalcraft/threshold.

>>18804892
Maybe Nudism? Au Naturel fits with green, but we might want to spread the effect across the colour pie a little.

Hah, there could be a bunch of green monsters with euphemistic names that increase in strength when their controller is nude.

Stuff like "Mighty Serpent" and "Giant Puppies".

>>18804898
Personally, I feel keeping it green is actually a good idea.
Mechanically, we have strip for all the colors, but each color should be able to do something unique as well. W cockblocks and anti-strips, U should have some domination-based mechanic/ability that hasn't been explroed yet, B and R I have no idea, and green could have nudism. This would help flesh out color flavors and provide players with distinct play styles.

RG1

Ballsy Knight

As long as your hand is placed on your crotch, Ballsy Knight gets +2/+2 and trample.

"Yeah, that's where the power is."

>>18804933
For that matter, could red maybe be male-oriented/ generic machismo and such as far as flavor goes?

>>18804942
It'll put female players at a distinct disadvantage (AS IF WE HAVEN'T ALREADY ALIENATED THEM ENOUGH WITH THIS SET LOLOLOLOLOLOL). It should be pure raunchyness, not necessarily machismo or male sexuality.

>Ctrl+F
>"Mindrape"
>0 results found.

Mindrape.
1BUU
Enchant Player.
Every card played by the enchanted player now has "Strip 1" as an additional cost to be played.
Strip effects can't be denied or redirected.
If the player is already naked, every card played by the enchanted player now has "Tease 1" as an additional cost to be played.

>>18804958
So would it be safe to confirm that red should be passionate/raunchy with a small number of (maybe a vertical cycle) of male-oriented cards? Any ideas for a good mechanic to tie it all together? Maybe tease?

>>18804988
Far too powerful for its cost. At least six.
Also, have we defined Tease as a keyword yet?

Hmm... with red's tendancy towards direct damage and such like, I could see S&M playing a part.

Not exactly sure how that would fit in though.

UU1

"Unusual Euphemisms"

Enchantment

Players can't name cards, they can only describe them. If a player names a card, sacrifice Unusual Euphemisms and that player Strips 1.

>>18805022
No. No, no, no.

>>18805019
Alternatively you could have it let you strip double from ANY cost/ability to synergise with what I imagine would be a lot of green's other things, although that'd probably call for a rarity/CMC increase.

It also depends on how much we want to reward Strip in green. It'd take a lot of balls to build a deck based around it.

>>18805022
Ooh, nice. Based on that:

Pet Names - WW1
Enchantment
Players can't name cards, they must give them a cute, but embarrassing term of endearment. If a player names a card, sacrifice Pet Names and that player Strips 1.
"My fluffykins attacks your dragonywagony"

>>18805063
Stop that. This sort of shit is what made the /d/ set so horrible.

4GG

Windblower the Forgetful

4/6

As long as Windblower the Forgetful is in play, all players must unzip all zippers atleast half-way.

>>18805074
You too!

>>18805067
Eh, it seemed in the Unset style of "make things harder than they need to be".

>>18805067
What made the /d/ set so awful was its overtness.

>>18804988
I like Blue having Enchant Player effects.
Not sure about the name though.

>>18804853
>>18805051
>have Nature's Glory in play
>cast Satyr Revellers
>take off shirt and pants
>get a 3/4 for G

Satyr Revellers confirmed for sexy Delver.

Cycles baby!

Anticipation (RG)
Instant
Target creature gets +3/+3 until end of turn, if an opponent has exactly one piece of clothing on that creature is also unblockable until end of turn.
"Oh man, take it off already!"

Stimulation (BR)
Instant
Target creature you control gains +2/+2 and first strike until end of turn. Sacrafice that creature at the beginning of the next end step unless an opponent has exactly one piece of clothing.
"We'll work this until it's ready to simply <i>burst</i>!"

Innovation (RU)
Instant
Whenever target creature attacks this turn it deals one damage to target creature or player. If an opponent is wearing exactly one piece of clothing that creature deals damage equal to its power instead.
"Oh! What if we were to try doing..."

Hesitation (W)
Instant
Tap target creature. If you have exactly one piece of clothing you may put on up to one piece of clothing you have previously discarded.
"Wait, I don't think I'm ready yet".

first attempt at an Unzipped creature!

Clothesnapper, UU
Whenever ~ deals combat damage to a player, that player Strips 1.
1/1

I'm not sure about this guy's color...

2

The Moneyshot

Artifact

1,Tap: Deal 1 damage to any target creature or player.

"It's safer if they have their eyes closed. You know that thing isn't very accurate."

(The picture is a slingshot with a coint in it)

>>18805156
>>18805167
You stole my idea!

>>18805167
Strip is being defined as a loss of ~4 life. You basically printed a 4/1 for UU. I feel that you'd probably want to increase the cost to 1UU (compare to Markov Blademaster I guess).

In regards to color I could see it in just about any color that isn't white as long as you created the proper flavor. Honestly though I think it works best as an artifact creature that's just a big mass of mechanical claws or pincers.

>>18805190
Except being naked doesn't cause you to lose.
This guy still takes 20 swings to kills, just denies your enemy a resource.
Strip 'em early, to stop the never-ending Satyr Revellers wave!

Another creature, this one might be a little overpowered. I was thinking of attaching the illusion caveat to it.

>>18805221
In retrospect, I've decided it is, in fact, too powerful, so I've nerfed it.

Something along these lines could be a fun creature.

1W

Instant

Migraine

As an additional cost to play Migraine, pay 2 life. Prevent any Strip and Tease effects targetted at you.

>>18805236
Nice and simple but useful too. I like it.

Watching people prevaricating about strict mechanical power level in a Magic set designed as a sex game will never got old.

>>18805257
This is the most camaraderie I've seen on /tg/ in a long time, and it's when we're united in being a bunch of perverts.

I love you motherfuckers.

>>18805257
>>18805269
I'm really really glad I started this thread, given that it may actually give enough material to play this thing.

So far, >>18805251
>>18805236
>>18805019
>>18804853

are particularly good. The Succubus is a bit too powerful, I feel.

>>18805251
Love it. Maybe lower the casting cost by 1 and add an 'any player may use this ability' to the activated effect? It's probably fine as is though.

Should Red have access to a lot of cards with Flash?

>>18805299
I second this. You could even give it Trample or something. Make people want it enough to start willingly taking things off as soon as it comes in and you have something that pretty much sums up what red's all about.

>>18797221

I have nothing to add to this thread but I saw MR. RAGE and remembered how much I love this motherfucker.

>>18805312
Flash as in the ability to play cards as instants?

Or flash as in flashing? Because while I understand the appeal, I feel this game seems to have clothes fly off a little too quickly for flashing to be relevant.

>>18805251
The first ability should be triggered at upkeep. Most other creatures that switch around do that, and it makes it simpler, ie no mid combat shenanigans.

>>18805336
Yes.

Perhaps a variant Flash: Remove a peice of clothing until the end of your turn, this spell may be cast as an instant.

Or however you word it.

>>18805336
>I feel this game seems to have clothes fly off a little too quickly for flashing to be relevant

I think that's largely because we've only managed to clearly define Strip so it's the only new mechanic people have to work with. Once we figure out some others and trim out ideas that don't really work in practice it'll probably even out.

I feel as though Strip should really only be prominent in green (stripping self willingly) and red (stripping opponent), and just splashed in the others (white doing compromise, stripping to prevent damage, etc., black hitting the opponent as punishment).

>>18805348
I like the first part of the effect. Keep it as just that, a temporary strip, for keywording.
Then we can use it for costs or to force an opponent to do it and etc.
Maybe have an instant called Flash that lets you play a card from your hand as if it had flash if you Flash 1?

Okay, I think I'm ready to play some Magic.

>>18805379
WE HAVE RULES!
>>18798172

YOU MUST OBEY.

>>18805379
Oh, that reminds me, some effects should punish people for wearing too many pieces of clothing.
Maybe a red burn spell?

{2}[B]

You've Been Naughty

Spank target player. If target makes a noise, add 4 to your mana pool.

Anyone else feel like we should throw Mindslaver in here just for the halibut?

>>18805405
Mindslaver was in the /d/ set. But still a good idea, as long as players can't just choose to strip whenever.

>>18805388

Punish the Pure - 1BB
Sorcery
Each player loses life equal to the amount of clothes they are wearing.

>>18805405
Nah, man, that'd end in disaster.

I'm down for some reprints though. Maybe just for puns and jokes and stuff. Like, Gwendlyn Di Corci.

>>18805362
I have to agree, we need mechanical color identity before we can begin to properly design the set. However, I personally believe strip is fine in all colors (except maybe white) and should be implemented in such a way as to properly reflect each color's identity.
Anyhow, on to mechanical identity:
White: as was said earlier, white is anti-stripping, cockblocking, consensual, goody-two-shoes
Blue: There seem to currently be two directions in blue's color identity. One is as a domination oriented, controlling color that hasn't really been mechanically explored just yet. The other is as a perverted, neckbeardy color that gets off on other colors as window watcher aptyl conveyed.
Black: Hasn't really been explored yet.
Red: Raunchy, passionate, aggressive, seems to prefer universal stripping, possibly a tinge of masculinity in some parts.
Green: Hippies, free love, nudism, and cards that benefit from self-stripping and nudism.

Now on to mechanics:
White: Anti-stripping, doesn't need a new keyword
Blue: No keyword or consistent mechanical identity just yet
Black: nothing
Red: Universal stripping, possibly tease?
Green: Self-stripping, Au Naturale

We need to develop blue and black, and possibly expand on red and green. ideas?

>>18805410

Well yeah it'd be like a sac effect, you cant just do it without reason. Although what would it mean to Tease while controlling someone else's turn...

>>18805434
There should not be a nofunallowed color in a sexy joke set. Find a spot for white that doesn't suck.

{4}[B]

Handcuffs

Target player cannot use their hands during their next turn. If they do, they must sacrifice 2 cards from their hand.

>>18805434
In the /d/ set, Blue had an effect called Permission, which required your opponent to ask you before they could do something.
In general, I think Blue should have player oriented restrictions of some kind like that.

>>18805401

Whoops, meant that to be black, not blue.

>>18805455
Discard 2 cards from their hand, you mean
>>18805451
White gets bonuses for wearing clothes?

>>18805434
Blue should allow people to put clothes back on or take them off, but have various punishments for each. Also possibly negation?

Black could be the more directly controlling one, allowing you to choose what's put back on or taken off, or other forceful effects.

>>18805466

Yup, that's what I meant, my bad.

>>18805451
White certainly needs more than just cockblocking, but white can have stuff that is romantic or pleasant or sexy even that isn't explicit.

Handholding, rubbing, hugging, etc.

>>18805476
>>18805476
Should we be doing player contact? Even something like hugging? That might be a bit more awkward than stripping or even flashing.

One Eyed Wurm - 3GG
Creature - Wurm 5/4
Tease - One Eyed Wurm gains trample until the end of the turn.
(Flavour) - Its not the size of the wurm that makes it deadly but the way it strikes. [RELEASE THE WURM! if we want to go less subtle]

>>18805476
yes, good I like that, I'll add it to white's color pie. Also on the topic of black, I feel like black should be focused primarily on opponent stripping and punishing lack of clothes so that stripping can actually be used to win the game if necessary (there might even be a high cost black enchantment that makes all players without clothes on lose the game, or is that too unfun?). Also, black could feature creature like the succubus that have upkeep costs that force you to strip but are themselves high above the curve.

>>18805496
What exactly does Tease do? maybe make it Strip 1?

>>18805486
I mean... I sort of assumed that that sort of thing wasn't a problem for anyone playing this game.

>>18805496
Also, we need a definitive wording on tease that hopefully doesn't make it seem too much like a week strip.

>>18805476

Giving any color cockblocking is kind of missing the point. The closest I can think of that might actually work and not detract from the fun is chastity belts, and even that's niche (and requires stuff that players wouldn't necessarily have access to).


>>18805466

A few effects that I imagine as white...

Each player gains life equal to three times the amount of clothing they've removed this game.

Whenever a player casts a spell, any player may strip 1. If a player does, counter that spell. (Taxing effects are in white nowadays, remember.)

Join forces - Starting with you, each player may kiss another player. Each player puts X 1/1 white Human creature tokens into play, where X is the number of players who kissed or were kissed by another player.


>>18805483

Too short-term, I think. Maybe an enchant creature?

>>18805531 here
Also, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of making use of Join Forces in this set. Thoughts?

>>18805531
I don't think white should reward for stripping, maybe make that effect based on the amount of clothes they ARE wearing instead?

>>18805531
S'a common, it doesn't need to be be all end all.

Eh. Those are decent card ideas, but I feel as though having a few mechanics that put on clothes or prevent clothes from being taken off is a good idea. Sex games are designed a little to be teasy and silly and stuff, otherwise one would just have sex, so prolonging the game a bit, teasing the opponent like that shouldn't be a big deal.

>>18805531
I agree, too much cockblocking is unfun, however, cards like the white knight from earlier in the thread that allowed you to sacrifice him instead of stripping seemed like a logical addition to the set. Also, I can totally see a ghostly prison/propaganda effect in white that makes a player strip for each creature they have that's attacking.

On another note, due to the sheer quantity of cards that benefit from stripping, I feel we will need cards that let you put clothes back on, but in what colors?

>>18805543
Well, hm, but the thing is Join Forces is a very multiplayer thing. And here, like, I don't know about you, but most of my games of this will be duels.

Can't exactly find a girl that likes magic who is ALSO poly-amorous.

One thing I have to point out, I feel like we're focusing too much around the strip mechanic. we need to implement some now, non-strip oriented, mechanics to help give the set a bit of variety. In particular, we need to define tease and come up with some mechanics for U and B.

>>18805544
I think every color should reward stripping, because we WANT players to strip.

>>18805550
Having a few CARDS that do it is probably a good idea, yeah, but full-on mechanics is a bad idea. We don't want to devote that much card space to counterstripping; the ultimate objective is to end up with both players naked.

>>18805565

Join Forces works fine in duels, too.


Hmm. Maybe White's stripping is more context-sensitive; it cares about WHAT is being taken off. Or not being taken off, as the case may be.

Work For It - 2WW
Enchantment
Whenever a spell or ability an opponent controls would cause you to strip underwear, counter that spell or ability unless that spell or ability's controller strips 1.

Sticking with the Satyr/Nymph theme briefly, I'm not sure about this. Aimed for "take a bunch of clothes off, creature-bomb the board", but it needs adjusting. Suggestions please.

>>18805620
Fun rare and it seems green's gonna be naked a lot, which is fine, I guess.

They'll run out of resources quick too. I'm imagining a white/green deck designed to gain clothes quickly and lose them too.

>>18805620
I feel like the pump is a bit unnecessary, alternatively, this card might be more balanced if it costs XG and has strip Y as an additional cost, so you get X Y/Y satyrs/nymphs to make it less ridiculous. Also, do you have the original art for that, I need to add it to my current stock of possible art for this set?

>>18805654
>Turn one, mana drop
>Turn two, One with the Wild, strip five
>Two 5/5 creatures on turn two.

Not a good idea.

>>18805401
Please dear god avoid cards that allow you to actually 'hit' the other player. While it may be your kink, or your partners kink - it is not *everyones* kink, and while we may be perverts playing a card game, we would like this to be accessible to everyone.

The moment you start including specific fetishes and styles of play, the set becomes less accessible to everyone and heads down a slippery slope to terrible /d/ garbage. Set is designed to be teasing and playful - Keep it fairly 'vanilla' or keep it the fuck out.

Anyways, Mechanics as follows.

Strip - This should be portioned out to effects that are worth ~life, so a 1/1 creature with strip doesnt belong, but a 3/3 or 4/2 with strip would. It is never really meant to just be an additional effect on a creature card like first strike, but more of a kicker to casting a spell or creature, or allowing an opponent to prevent the casting of. Your opponent is not supposed to be naked in the first 2 turns of the game (unless you're both playing red-black or something).

Tease : This mechanic is a bit harder to define, as it can either be a glimpse of the goods, or 'sexy talk', it also requires some mutual consensus and agreement of if something was 'sexy' or not. I decided to make it 'neutral' so its not just necessarily flashing your bits, but it can also include overtly sexual speech - this makes it a somewhat neutral playing ground. To define it better, "A player must either show a portion of their body that is still clothed for 7 seconds to the other player, speak in some manner that is agreed to be erotic by both parties, or perform an action that lasts no longer than 5 seconds to the other party (like a kiss on the neck)" (Yes, a conditional rule that says you must co-operate with the sexy-talk).

>>18805685

Ladies and gentlemen, /tg/.

>FUCK GETTING NAKED, YOU'RE RUINING GAME BALANCE

>>18805643
So what's the keyword for putting clothes back on and can such effects take a player above their starting clothing amount?

Peeping Dryads - 1GG
Creature - Dryad
Forestwalk
As long as you're naked, Peeping Dryad has islandwalk and swampwalk.
3/3

>>18805691
Screenshot for great justice.

>>18805689
I am down with those definitions for those two mechanics.

>>18805691
Nah, his points are valid.

>>18805643
That is a thing. X in this case is going to be 5 at most, almost certainly less because of previous self-stripping for creatures and such. It's either get some synergy between green and white, or give green some things to get more value out of strip.

>>18805654
I'm not sure about the pump either, but I felt like it needed some added value. Say you pay 3G and take off 3 things, you're ass-naked and you've got 3 3/3's out of it, which isn't all that impressive. Considered giving them Trample, but they're Nymphs and that'd be silly. X Y/Y's seems good though. Less restrictive.

Art: http://thejeffster.deviantart.com/art/satyr-and-nymphs-12365494?q=boost%3Apopular%20nymphs&qo=25

This is all stripping. Why not some foreplay?

Also what do we do when they run out of clothes.

Clothlink : less / more / none. Empowers spells / creatures / artifacts / enchantments based on the clothing you're wearing - Less is obviously less than your opponent, More is more than your opponent, and None is if you're wearing nothing.

GG
Fertility/Virility
Enchantment
Whenever a spell you control is cast, you may tease. If you do, you may put a 1/1 green elf token into play.

RR1
Reckless Passion (had a bunch of ideas for this card)
Enchantment
Whenever a spell you control is cast, you may tease. If you do, deal 1 damage to target player.

An example of clothlink would be a something like a creature that when cast has flash (depending on how much you're wearing).

In regards to strip / tease, red should have a lot of tease, and some strip (because red is passionate and reckless, it'll both be throwing off its clothes in a hurry and trying to get rid of its opponents). Black should be selling clothes for power, or trying to remove opponents clothes for power over them. Blue is about slowing things down and savoring them, so should favor clothlink:more, with some teasing. White plays prominently off of clothlink:more, but should also have an enchantment that allows you to tease to prevent some damage (like 1 damage prevented for teasing, may not be used multiple times on the same source). Green likes teasing and less/none.

>>18805691
Never change

>>18805717
>>18805685
Actually I am an ass and I did not consider this.

Goddamn now I have no idea.

>>18805726
Nah, it's really just green that's all stripping. Green just wants to get its dick out and put it on the game table.

Just like in regular Magic.

>>18805749

>>18805749
I loled

I just wanna see more of things like is all >>18804751

>>18805764
Errata you must paint your dick green or sacrifice it when it enters the battlefield.

Thats right, you have to sacrifice your dick.

>>18805434
Blue is about slowing things down and savoring the experience - it's not cockblocking like white is.

Black is about power and power exchange - *THIS DOES NOT MEAN BDSM OR HITTING*, its about selling a piece of clothing for a 4/3 for BB, or giving an opponents creature -3/-3 unless they strip 1, or maybe a pestilence style card that allows an opponent to tease to prevent the damage to them and their creatures. Black should play heavily off of clothlink and strip.

Red is about recklessness, passion, and getting caught up in the moment, it is the seducer - it should have additional tease costs to its cards. It likes to get rid of clothes, but may do it so fast it ruins the mood (american pie style).

I think I worded this wrong, but the effect is too good not to include somewhere.

Serra's Matchmaker - RW
Creature - Angel
Flying
Whenever a player would strip, instead that player chooses another player. The chosen player removes articles of clothing from the first player equal to the strip value of the effect that caused the strip.
2/3

>>18805727
I have to argue against clothlink. I understand where you're coming from with it, but I feel like it's far too similar to Au Naturale. Also, as a whole, it might end up being a bit unfun to feature cards that expressly benefit from not playing along with all the stripping and teasing going on in unzipped.

>>18805689
We need a shorter definition of tease, to put as reminder text. Yours is good, but a bit long.

>>18805476
The way I envision white is teasing / stripping to prevent effects, while liking clothlink on its creatures.

>>18805802
I agree, it might also have to be made less ambiguous just for simplicity's sake.

>>18805782
>putting your dick in your graveyard
>whenever a card gets discarded you have to put it on top of your dick

>>18805803

...Huh. I like that idea, actually - white has the easiest time putting clothes back on, and has the most effects that reward stripping, but those effects are weak compared to the other colors. So you're constantly taking clothes off and putting them back on for incremental gains.

It's the striptease color.

Updated mechanical identity:
White: Anti-stripping (very-light), romantic cards (maybe keywordable?), trading clothing for protection
Blue: No keyword or consistent mechanical identity just yet
Black: Clothing for power, making the opponent choose between game effects and teasing/stripping
Red: Universal stripping, Tease
Green: Self-stripping, Au Naturale

>>18805791
I might be trying to force the clothlink a bit, but I do think it makes some sense.

I like it as a conditional effect like uh, threshold or hellborne (i think thats what its called?), and I think it would give allow for a lot more flavor with creatures and colors.

>>18805839
Do we agree then that strip-teasing is white?

>>18805843
We have a conditional like that, in green. Au Naturel or Nudism.
Maybe Purity for wearing more than opponent?

>>18805814
A token in a zone other than the battlefield ceases to exist.
CEASES
TO
EXIST
I would never play that card. Too scared.

>>18805859
It doesn't say "put a token onto the battlefield" it says "put your penis". I don't think that rule applies.
I'm more concerned about what happens when a girl plays it.

Temperance Elemental - 1W
Creature - Elemental
At the beginning of your upkeep, choose one - you gain three life, or you put one article of clothing back on. (You can't put clothing back on if you haven't removed it this game.)
1/1

>>18805851
I suppose purity / au naturel work as the key-words, sounds better than clothlink.

>>18805840
Blue should be about delaying, trying to savor the experience and going 'no you're going too fast' (this puts it in opposition to red where, red just wants to get everyone fuckin nekkid, and green sees clothes as kinda fuckin pointless)

So effects like, tease : tap target creature (may only be used once per turn), or when an opponent would strip instead they tease (enchantment maybe?). Blue *does* want to get its clothes off, it just wants to take its time about it.

>>18805906

Delaying feels more white to me.

I like the idea that Blue is about restricting just what your opponent is allowed to do, and rewarding you/punishing them for breaking those restrictions.

>>18805939
Delaying your opponents actions then, in different manners.

Hmm, maybe more conditional cards of manners like "If an opponent strips, you may draw a card" or "When an opponent teases, you may untap a creature you control"?

Smiling Temptress - BBB
Creature - Demon
Flying
As ~ enters the battlefield, choose an opponent. That opponent chooses a location on their body. If you kiss that location for at least ten seconds, put three +1/+1 counters on ~.
5/5

Don't forget the suggestion earlier of the "flashing" keyword - basically stripping one, then returning a piece of clothing back at the start of your next turn.

That might work well for blue. Distraction, as well as a temporary sacrifice seems to be their game

Something like this

Forbidden Exposure - 1UU
Flashing 1

Draw three cards, or your opponent strips 1

>>18805992
...fuck, that should be a 2/2 by default, not a 5/5

Suspicious Vial of Green Fluid - 2
Artifact
5, T, Sacrifice ~: Target player removes all clothing.

>>18806057
Lets try rewriting that to be legible
Forbidden Exposure - 1UU
Instant
additional costFlashing 1

Draw three cards. Your opponent can cancel this by stripping 1

Feel like it should be flashing 1 really.

>>18806057
Flashing is too similar to teasing for it to be keyworded, especially seeing as teasing already incorporates flashing to some extent.

>>18806083
That would have to be rare but I like it.

>>18806100
You think? Flashing works for the whole of the opponents turn. Teasing is just for the duration of the spell. Plus you could have things like Flashing - All.

Starving Countess - BB
Creature - Vampire
Flying
Whenever ~ deals combat damage to a player, you may suck on that player's neck for at least five seconds. If you don't, sacrifice ~.
2/1

>>18806119
Again, a bit too similar. Also, too much focus on stripping/teasing/flashing will end up detracting from set variety. We need to take some of the less well-defined colors and give them a bit of a different direction to allow for more depth in gameplay withing this set..

Okay, I started this thread so, here's my attempt.

GF suggested the card to parody.

>>18806172
I still think there should be a couple, like

Just a peek then... 1U

Instant
If a spell requires you to strip one, then you can return that piece of clothing at the start of your next turn.

Perhaps no keyword is needed.
. I got something different though.

Back at ya'! 1UU

Instant
If an opponent casts a spell that requires stripping, you can choose the target.

Should this be able to cancel any spells that require stripping?

Also, is there going to be any sillyness in this? Something like
greek archaeologist - 1U

Creature - Human archaeologist
When this creature enters the battlefield , count the number of satyrs on the battlefield. This includes on the card arts. You may draw a card for each satyr counted this way.

"What? Ah yes... such wonderful culture, wouldn't you say?

Okay, so I crossed over into red a little bit.

So, logo ideas? Here's one awful attempt.

This obviously wouldn't be it, but something like this?

Hrm... I really think we need to start a page somewhere, to externalise and nail things down.

For example, ages ago, it was decided that blue would be teasing and lingerie, things like that, specific revelation and denial. Now, its red? When red already has a lot to its name?

The thread is moving too fast, and the ideas are getting carried away with themselves. The thread, and even the game, need to slow the pace a bit. Its more fun if we take our time.

>>18806302
Good Card actually, I think.

Two Birds, One Stone - 8UU
Sorcery
Bring target player to climax. If that player vocalizes before his or her climax ends, you win the game.

>>18806334
Sure, sure, but someone needs to take the initiative and start saving all the good and worthwhile cards, ideas and discussion somewhere.

Not it! Even though I started this thread and want to see this actually become a thing, but I wouldn't know where to put all this.

I think there should be some artifact or colourless spell that forces target opponent to lose the game if they're forced to tease while naked. be pretty expensive, but it's there to make sure theres always to end the game shortly.
something like
Dangerous Plan 9

only play this if the opponent is naked and must tease
That opponent loses the game

"Now, has everyone got protection?"


The real winner {W}{U}{R}{B}{G}

Enchantment
Whenever a player is naked, he or she -wins- the game.

"You know it's true."

should be wins the game instead to make up for it (Was loses) . after all, you're going to make a deck designed to activate it, with that cost

Also, how many people are watching the thread atm?

Is anyone willing to have their gmail name associated with a googledoc, or their 1d4chan account associated with the Unzipped page? We need somewhere to put this stuff!

how about this mechanic for white:

Whisper: Untill your next upkeep, you must whisper all actions into the ear of target opponent.

>>18806425

Could make an interesting enchantment or sorcery with a conditional effect reliant on it, but not as a multi card thing.

>>18806382

I'm watching intently, don't worry.

How about some use of the level mechanic? Either things like Strip 1: Put a level counter on ~, giving game bonuses, or the inverse, something like:

Practising Pervert 2BR
Creature - Human Rogue
Level up 2, 0/1
Level 1-3, whenever ~ deals damage to a player, that player may Strip 1. If they don't, they lose 3 life, 1/2.
Level 4+, whenever ~ deals damage to a player, that player must Strip 1, 1/3

>cloth sfyuri
Sometimes, captcha is remarkably astute.

>>18806395
Try this?

>>18806483

Thank you! We have our doc, folks. Lets start filling in the basics from earlier this thread. General mechanics, card distribution, themes and assumptions at the top. Specific cards go at the bottom, as we need to establish the basics first.

>>18806321
That's a pretty decent attempt at a logo, I'm currently working on a higher quality one that incorporates a zipper into the unhinged U, thus making un-zipped.

>>18806461
I'd say stay away from old mechanics as much as possible. We want this set to be uniquely flavorful as possible. Also, as a whole level-up is often seen as a sign of nooby set-design just because of how easy it is to improperly implement of overdo.

>>18806528

Ah, that's a good point. Some mechanic to show escalation could be useful, especially in black and red decks - showing progression from teasing to stripping to full on sex. Obviously, it'd be poor taste to include actual sex acts, but that doesn't mean the flavour of the cards couldn't convey that.

>>18806496
Here's an idea for the plane itself that this set could be on.

Seksulan is a plane in which the inhabitants are awash in sexual tension based on a magical potion that seeped into the earth and infiltrated the watershed across the plane. Even the creatures of this planes have been reshaped by this magic imbuing them with special abilities that enhance the lust of their handlers and of magicians who summon these beings. The clergy has become overwhelmed by the populous in an attempt to seek shelter from this magical flux.

The holy magic of the clerics have been retooled by faith to restore albeit slowly, the purity of the people. Others choose to throw themselves at the forces of this potion in a belief that this new sexual magic is the harbinger of a new rule of law on this plane.

That's what I've got so far. Advice?

>>18806542
For example, see top two cards of
>>18806382

>>18806561

Aye, that was the idea. More of the same perhaps - a red or green enchantment that replaces Tease X with Strip X, and a white enchantment that does exactly the opposite could fit well.

>>18806574
I put up a blue card up there which allows if you have to strip any, you can put it back on at the start of your next turn.

I think that we should define the main tribes for each colour.
something like
W - Human?
U - Siren
B - Succubus
R - Something
G - Satyr

What would red be? or perhaps we could shift the black to passionate vampires with lusty foocubi onto red.

Wild Incubus 2R
Creature - Foocubus
When this creature enters the battlefield, All players strip 1
4/2

"But... My do you have a firm grip..." David, Priest of Lenge's last words before being taken.

The doc now has a design skeleton we can start filling out. I'm gonna reread the MaRo articles and get on that. Then we can start figuring out which cards fit where, and what holes we have.

>>18806866
Cool, we already have a bunch of solid ideas in this thread, so, we should at least port them over.

>>18806906

First, we need to sort out the framework for all the ideas to fit into, and how to make the set coherent and functional. Throwing in every good idea sounds nice, but you'll end up with a non-functional mess like /d/'s attempt.

We'll make use of as many ideas as possible. But the structure and coherence of the set as a whole is our first priority.

Hrm... How about this as an idea for White? Creatures and perhaps enchantments with Clothing Counters. You can choose to remove a Clothing Counter rather than Strip, and removing Clothing Counters could have effects on those enchantments, probably weakening their effects or causing negative consequences.

On the other hand, you could also make it that there were positive ways to use and remove clothing counters, or mutual support things, like a spell that allowed you to strip 1 and place a clothing counter on 3 target creatures or some such. Mutual protection, but also large scale disrobement as things go on. White is the colour of groups and alliances and cooperation, after all...

Here's your set symbol. I feel it captures the feel of the set quite nicely. Sorry about the small size, goddam mse won;t let me export set symbols as images.

Creatures added in to the skeleton... At least, I think I did it right. Reading through the articles on not much sleep. I'll be adding stuff as I go along, but its all very provisional.

>>18807035
My, but that's spiky.

>>18806976
I like the look of that last card, strip one, clothing counters.

Can I get a link to the google dox?

And working on consistency, we'll need to sum up the cards written down so far, and remove the ones that are really far out or go beyond the feeling of tension we've planned thus far. after that we can build cycles to fill out somwwhat, then have some free thoughts for fun cards.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EXJQcM6PvT6KFUHT2vsrpkXE9oatUSKCIAY-ns_KplU/edit if the link works?

>>18807063
Link works. The design skeleton seems to be missing Other cards (artifacts and what not). Is this usual of design skeletons? This isn't exactly my forte.

>>18807089
We're skipping them for now, I believe.

Hrm... This might not be popular, but it might be wise to put a hard cap on the number of cards that can cause an opponent to Strip per colour. We do need to avoid the 'Everybody naked now' thing.

>>18807089

Intentionally left out, for now. The aim is try to push /tg/ into working out the basic substance of the set, not all the neat and interesting details. That's like icing the cake before you've baked it.

>>18807063
Fabulous.

>>18806662
Works, although they're going to be broader in practice. For instance green has an awful lot of raunchy nature/folklore/mythology stuff, as well as Human pagan rituals, the whole hippie thing, etc. So there's going to be crossover, but for the most part, I like it.

Well the design skeleton, seems to be coming along quite nicely. I'm gonna go and see if I can't find some decent art for each of the current color tribal groups. When it comes down to it, a set like this will be defined by its flavor, and good art adds a lot to flavor.

>>18807056
Well, By far out I mean anything that should be in another colour. Minimise losses, so to speak. anything that really shouldn't be in at all, just trash. But whatever. have another silly card.

Gentlemens agreement. 2B

(Picture is of two men nest to a brothel, one going in and another leaving)

All creature cards with men on their art cannot be blocked by other creatures with men on their art. ( Men only includes humanoid races, or other creatures that you can tell the difference. The rest aren't gentlemen, so don't have to follow this.)

One of many unwritten rules.

>>18807146
That right there is what we need. Some nice, flavorful cards that don't incorporate strip or tease but fit perfectly into the set.

>>18807169
TIME FOR FUN BOYS!
but seriously, I'll think of some more, and for the other colours.

Pagan blessing 3G
Pic of classical pagan ritual with naked dancing etc.
Take control of an opponents land.
-Sometimes the taint passes as soon as it's over. Other times there is no saving the wild lands-

Night of Passion - 2W
Pic of the quintessential "orgy pit", scraped and buttered.
as an additional cost, tap 3 humans.
tap all opposing creatures. These creatures cannot untap during their opponents next untap step.
you gain 2 R mana

-Sometimes, you need to just let it all out. The church has since accepted these times, so long as you keep you focus inside their walls.-

Love potion - 1U
- two people offering each other wine glasses, each with a pink heart shaped potion behind their backs-
Enchantment - aura
Name target creature. That creature cannot block or be blocked by this creature.

-Sometimes it's simply making them keep away from each other long enough to make them realise whether they want to or not- Alchemist Freyja

Out with a Bang. 3RR
- person in a bed, surrounded by piles of others.
Enchantment
Tap target creature you control: deal 2 damage to target creature.

- Sir! We found another one. Same smile as the rest of them...-

Is this plane going to have the same sexuality rules as exalted as a result of this calamity?

Copying something over from the doc for the benefit of the thread-

STRIP MAXIMUM: 6 +/- 1 (any more would be over-saturation, distribution: 2:2:2 or 3:2:2 or 2:2:1 where common:uncommon:rare)? Avoid Strip at Common?
Strip should appear at common, especially seeing as it is essentially the definitive mechanic of the set.
The issue is that, with Strip at common, and the clothing maximum at 5, the mechanic plays itself out far too fast.
I agree, therefore, common instances of strip should be non-repeatable and should usually offer a choice between stripping and some other slightly above the curve alternative (be it creature, damage, discard, etc.) Additionally, strip should be tempered by tease to ensure a longer, and hopefully more enjoyable, experience.

How about something like:

Inviolate Beauty of Nature
3GGG
Legendary Enchantment
Can only be cast while nude. You can't lose the game while nude. If you put any clothing back on, exile Nature's Inviolate Beauty

Decency Laws
WWW
Enchantment
Players can not strip completely nude. Nude players must replace at least one piece of removed clothing.

Wild Running
2G
For every completely nude player, place one 2/1 Streaker Token.

Crisis of Modesty
WW
Instant
Target player completely replaces all removed clothing.
Just some ides. I haven't played M:tG in almost 4 years now, so this may be off.

>>18807445

The last needs recosting. Perhaps WXX, or W2X, where X is the number of pieces of clothing put back on?

Still, all good ideas. Related to the mechanic without overusing it.

>>18807445

I feel as though streaker tokens should have haste.

>>18807445

Hrm... Wild Running is cool, but limited. Its only really useful late game in multiplayer. How about...

Wild Running
2GG
Put 3 1/1 Streaker tokens into play. If one player is naked, Streaker tokens have Haste. If two or more players are naked, Streaker tokens get +1/+1.

>>18807597
That'd fit Au Naturale perfectly, actually.

...Well fuck. This threads so far into autosage its nearly fallen off the board. Time for a new thread?

>>18807702
Can we get this one archived?

>>18807702
Hm, yeah, we probably need a new thread.

Someone start it up, yup.

As for this getting archived, I doubt it. Save the images and the text someone and that'll be the end of this one.

Steal Clothing
UU
Sorcery
Target player must remove and give you one piece of clothing. You must wear the received clothing even if goes over your 5 clothes limit.

Panty Thief
1U
Creature - Thief
When Panty Thief enters battle, it gains a 1/1 Panty Token for all unworn underwear (defined as clothes worn directly against genitals). Unworn underwear is considered stolen and can not be reworn until Panty Thief is removed from play.
1/1

Fast Switch
Instant
Chose a player, and swap clothing with them. You must wear their worn clothing and claim possession of their unworn clothing. They must do the same with your clothes.
All damage you would take round is redirected to the player you swapped with.

This thread's already been archived on sup/tg/, although who knows how long it will last there.

>>18807821
Don't worry, foolz auto archives from /tg/ and other boards.

So just use the keyword unzipped and I'm sure it'll be there.

Where's the new thread?

>>18808027
Dunno, maybe no one bothered. I guess I'll make it if there isn't one.

>>18808107
Link when you do.

>>18808143

Yup.
>18808218