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    633 KB Zanzia Quest Pt 3 Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)12:28 No.18934927  
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)12:32 No.18934955
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    Oh my...yes I missed two weeks in a row, forgive me /tg/ FORGIVE MEEEEE. I've been busy running my /tg/ MC server.

    Last game can be found here. http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/18657420/


    Game post following shortly. Council vote to let the French Foreign Legion in to support has been passed in favor of.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)12:55 No.18935191
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    - France has made a formal statement in our favour to International Communities. The UN has withdrawn French Troops from their forces in Nation. Dutch, Japanese, and American troops have filled their rolls.

    -French Foreign Legion force in the numerical scope of about 2,500 men have arrived at our air port and are setting up a Forward Operations Facility near the border to stem any large push from the North via the main highway/roadway.

    -Efforts to demoralize and turn locals in the North to our favor has yielded plenty of intelligence. It seems someone is supplying them with light soviet-era armor. A shipment of 20 T-55s is reported to have arrived. The T-55s have been identified as such by hand-drawn sketches handed off to our people. Intelligence has no idea where they came from, either a stash somewhere we forgot about - or another nearby nation. Highly unlikely it was Russia or other further nations.

    -Food Aid distributed amongst the DMZ and our own people has been greatly welcomed. While most is international, our government has received the praise for this.

    -There are reports of increased theft. Police efforts, while increased, are having difficulty in stopping everything.

    -Medical Facilities have been improved - now with a local, more focused society around our modern city... disease and death rates are down compared to the past two months- minus war casualties. Meanwhile in the north, rates are rumored to be up.

    -Black Superman has been spotted helping pass out food aid near the DMZ zone.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)13:00 No.18935244

    what kind of theft?
    if the theft is of essentials like food, water or medicine, we need to improve our distribution if possible.

    if they're stealing 'luxuries', perhaps we should crack down hard on this.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)13:16 No.18935476
    General civil theft. Luxeries and otherwise.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)13:58 No.18935948
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)14:16 No.18936124
    Holy shit I didn't think you were going to be able to run this today!

    And FUCK!
    About those tanks, what do we have in terms of anti-tank mines and infantry anti-tank weapons?
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)14:19 No.18936156
    Hey GL, I thought you were running this at 2 instead of at 12; that would explain why I'm 2 hours late.

    Anyway, have a community watch program started to aid the police in stopping crime.

    Have our scouts attempt to find where the tanks are being stored.
    They're fucking rebels, I want to see if our scouts have what it takes to sneak in and steal that entire tank platoon.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)14:20 No.18936163
    Yeah but I got an early start today.... sorry lol
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)14:26 No.18936217
    In addition, what do our citizens feel about the FFL arriving and providing military assistance?

    Also, as was planned, make sure that a liaison officer to the FFL is sent from our military to aid in coordinating our forces, and that a quick reaction force is ready to provide them with assistance.

    Has any more information come up concerning the impending terrorist attack on our capital?

    Has work begun on the War Train?
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)14:32 No.18936270
    Checking back in the previous thread, the rebels were moving artillery pieces close to the DMZ.
    We were able to detect their movements using our cheap-ass UAV recon planes. Have we been able to pin down where exactly they are, and what kind of artillery they have?

    Once we launch our counter-offensive, I want to be able to sweep in and capture those guns.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)14:39 No.18936343
    >Has work begun on the War Train?
    I'll make a post soon. About to have a meeting with my boss.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)15:00 No.18936543
    We also should get like a remote-control train car that will stay a mile ahead of the war train itself, to detect and/or detonate IED's that the rebels may have placed on the train tracks.
    I don't want a redux of the final scene from "Bridge over the River Kwai".
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)15:19 No.18936728
    >About to have a meeting with my boss.
    I guess that meeting was sooner, and longer, than GL thought it would be.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)15:24 No.18936765

    damn it, a war train is a HORRIBLE idea. All they have to do is blow up the damned rails and it can't do shit but sit there.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)15:27 No.18936791
    It would also be equipped to fix rails as it goes.

    The rail line is the fastest way of reaching Corabana.
    We need it operational to quickly move troops to the city and take it.

    So far, we have not had any intel reports about the rebels mining the rail line, or sabotaging it; they would need it too if they want to invade the capitol.

    This is why I suggested we make a remote control car that will go along the rails and detonate any IED's along the way.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)15:28 No.18936799
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    B-b-b-but Trotsky did iiiiiit....
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)15:30 No.18936824
    ... if you detonate IEDs on the rail line, YOU DESTROY THE RAIL.

    Do you have any idea how much work goes into repairing a destroyed railway?
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)15:31 No.18936826
    Done with meeting. New post within 5-10
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)15:44 No.18936935
    also, it seems sabotage of railways is also possible by simply removing bolts on the connector plates between rail segments, and is more effective than explosives.

    Dem french railroad workers during WW2, man.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)15:46 No.18936951
    -RPGs and some make-shit land mines. We do have AT Mines but using them in numbers may piss off the UN.

    -Citizens see France's involvement as part of paying the debt they owe us for colonial days. French Lives to help us out of a jam.

    -War Train is almost done, our adviser who recommended it says we need not use it offensively - even if it is bristling with guns and armor.

    -UAVs have noted their artillery positions. They have enough built up now that if we were to capture them, we would need to do it before being shelled to death. Assuming they can actually hit any targets accurately.

    -A car bomb has went off near one of our military bases! There is report of an on-going fire-fight in the area.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)15:46 No.18936952
    Actually, no, I don't. Can you quote any figures on how long it takes to replace a section of rail?
    And we've had the rail system for years. Grand Leader can tell us if we have specialized rail repair and replacement machines that will speed up any repairs that need to be done.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)15:49 No.18936983

    Deploy our rapid reaction forces to the area.

    Issue a call for all civilians in the area to remain indoors.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)15:52 No.18936993
    >A car bomb has went off near one of our military bases! There is report of an on-going fire-fight in the area.
    Mobilize our reaction force to take control of the situation.
    Advise citizens to stay indoors for their safety.

    >enemy artillery
    Have our generals prepare plans to take the artillery position once hostilities break out.

    >enemy tanks
    Have our scouts and spies take a look at the security surrounding those tanks. Maybe we can steal them if the rebels are stupid enough.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)15:53 No.18937008
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    Bridges and tunnels are time-consuming but otherwise replacing damaged rails should be easy, if we have the proper machinery and manpower.
    A couple of companies of engineers should do the trick. The rail shouldn't need much patrolling apart from the few choke points that need 24/7 protection, and the engineers and their equipment could be transported to the damaged parts by rail or with trucks.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)16:00 No.18937058
    According to this article, the IED damaged the track, but repairs were quick and did not affect the scheduled trains.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)16:10 No.18937142

    I've watched a crew of 8 men take 4 hours to remove a single section of rail and replace it with a new one. Admittedly, this is in the USA where half of them were likely fondling themselves, but they were also using equipment to assist in lifting the rail section.

    If you have an IED take out a rail section, you've got warped rail sections that need removal and replacing, a need to replace the (I assume still wooden) rail ties that were damaged or destroyed, and you'll need to replace and compact any displaced soil from the raised area (or flat ground, if that is the case) of ground that the rest needs to rest upon.

    optimistically, with a huge manpower force? Two hours, perhaps? With a possibility of pre-planned artillery strikes upon the location or secondary mines nearby.

    But hey, the transcontinental railroad had two record days of 8 and 10 miles of track laid down in 1 day, respectively.

    Still, I think the war train is useless. It isn't a good offensive weapon due to the reliance on rails and ease of destroying or sabotaging them, and is in general a waste of resources.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)16:14 No.18937183
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    >But hey, the transcontinental railroad had two record days of 8 and 10 miles of track laid down in 1 day, respectively.

    God bless Chinese slave labour.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)16:18 No.18937214
    > 2 foot section of track damaged

    the hell did they use for that, a firecracker?
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)16:21 No.18937239
    >With a possibility of pre-planned artillery strikes upon the location or secondary mines nearby
    The rebels have very limited artillery, and the only artillery pieces they have are being placed at the northern end of the DMZ, on the opposite side from the rail lines.

    As for the usefulness of the war train, it is not meant to carry an entire battle. It is used as a diversion, and as an armored transport to get troops into the train station of Coraba.

    We don't have the APC or transport helicopters to get a sufficient number of infantry to Coraba after we roll through the DMZ without using the rail line.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)16:22 No.18937245
    >the war train is FUCKING AWESOME
    That's all that's important.

    Reminds me of an old aphorism. A wise man once said, "An armored train is in general a waste of perfectly good resources". Then he was shot for anti-government agitation.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)16:32 No.18937336
    As soon as the situation at the military base has been contained, we need to begin immediate forensic analysis and investigation of the car bomb.

    We need to be able to prove that it was done by the rebels.

    Grand Leader, did the rebel patrols do anything while our troops were distributing food and aid along the DMZ?
    I want to know how close we are to them attacking, and giving us a Casus Belli to begin our counter-attack.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)16:36 No.18937371
    New post soon.

    Also looking into buying a kilt. Not to be trendy but because HOLY FUCK FLORIDA SUMMER IS COMING AND THE AC IS BROKEN IN OFFICE WITH NO PLANS TO FIX IT.

    Kilt will keep me cool.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)16:36 No.18937374
    I used to work at a train museum which had a policy of doing all the rail laying using muscle power alone. Assuming the components are available it will take four strong men no more than an hour to lay a section of track. That includes grading and that sort of thing.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)16:38 No.18937393
    >American rail company
    >takes 8 men with machines 4 hours to replace a section of track
    >Museum is able to get 4 men to do the same work with no machines in 1 hour
    And private industry is supposed to be MORE efficient?
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)16:42 No.18937430
    Were the contractors payed by the hour?
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)16:45 No.18937469

    yeah, that sounds about right for a Union job.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)17:09 No.18937740
    Good thing then that there isn't a worker's union in Zanzia, right?
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)17:13 No.18937788
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    Isn't there?
    OH GOD!
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)17:24 No.18937922
    shit, so this rebellion is lead by an African mafia family!?

    We'll need advisers from the USA and Russia.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)17:25 No.18937932
    They'd just suggest that we let them become president.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)17:29 No.18937984
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    -Mobilized forces have arrived at the scene of conflict, there is an intense gun fight. One BMP took an RPG to the track and has been de-treaded.

    -Intel says enemy tanks are in heavy active use. They are training on a daily basis and taking civil fuel sources to do so.

    -BBC seems to be on the scene reporting the skirmish.

    -Your commanding staff is drawing up two plans, an all-out offensive plan, and a defensive plan. A french liaison officer is helping coordinate the FFL.

    -Reports of a major nation backing the rebels is filtering in, but because France is now publicly supporting you - they are being quiet about it.

    -SeaCord, a shipping company that brings international goods, has been attacked by pirates in international waters near your own. By the time UN air arrived on scene to deal with pirates, the boat had been boarded and everyone is held hostage. The pirates are demanding you step down or they will kill the entire crew.
    >> Aviationfag 05/01/12(Tue)17:34 No.18938047

    I was gonna say you were busy with Playoffs, and with you being from Florida that makes sense, especially since the Panthers were eliminated last week.

    Anyways, QRF the firefight

    - See about getting a second Fulcrum from Russia as lend/lease or aid package to help us help ourselves, make sure we stress that it only going to be used to assist our other Fulcrum in destroying military targets.

    -If we haven't yet, sign the original, and only the original, articles of the geneva conventions. Concurrent to this, air-drop leaflets on the Rebels positions stressing humane treatment if they surrender.

    - Make sure our troops are disciplined enough not to massacre civilians, while civilian deaths are inevitable in a cityfight, we don't want to cause a ruckus by massacring innocents, we'll need them later once the rebels are fucked

    - Do we have enough income to make any sort of infrastructure upgrades in our territory? If we can start rebuilding some industry now we can hopefully get income coming in once the campaign starts, allowing us to buy replacement vehicles and ammunition easier.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)17:35 No.18938061
    Quickly liquidate any cabinet members non-vital to the war effort.
    We must acquire their titles to further our own glory.
    >> Aviationfag 05/01/12(Tue)17:39 No.18938098

    >QRF - Continue to push the firefight, in necessary get another motorised platoon in there, if there's enough space for them in the AO

    >Tanks - Use our media to demonize the rebels for stealing local fuel supplies to feed their own war machine, as well as condemning whatever nation is selling them arms (So long as we aren't doing the same)

    - Get a platoon over to the BBC location to keep them safe. Let them report whatever, but keep them away from active firezones (Both for their safety and operational security)

    >Rebel backers - I dunno, maybe France can help out?

    >Seacord - We don't negotiate with terrorists. That's the international standard, that's our standard. We can't do anything about it, though, we don't have marines.
    >> The Pole 05/01/12(Tue)17:42 No.18938130

    pirates? this is how you fix pirates

    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)17:45 No.18938162
    Okay, get some AT assets up to the skirmish and recover the BMP. Make sure the BBC isn't harmed and doesn't see us doing anything that would look bad in the papers, but don't stop them from reporting or moving around.

    Get some intelligence working on who's backing the rebels. We can work with France internationally to put pressure on them once we find out who there are

    Find out where that ship is registered and the nationality of the crew. Try to negotiate to save time but at the same time ask France or anyone else (if there's time and we find out the nationality of the crewmen, ask for their nation's help as well) for Special Forces. Under no grounds do we agree to their terms.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)17:45 No.18938167
    "We will not negotiate with terrorists."

    Quickly decry any world leader that calls for us to step down as a "believer in Appeasement and a possible supporter of terrorism." Seek backing from both Russia and USA on our stance against negotiation and terrorists.

    find out where these terrorists are from, and who they're related to. If we have access to their families, approach them about contacting the pirates and asking them to surrender peacefully to UN forces.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)17:46 No.18938174
    See where they are being stored at night, and the feasibility of a commando raid to steal the tanks and drive them back to our side of the DMZ. Release whatever funding is needed for the bribing of guards and such.

    Make sure that a squad is with them to protect them.

    Per international agreements and precedent, we will not negotiate with terrorists. Ask the pirates if they are willing to die, because the hostages are the only thing keeping us from executing them all.
    Coordinate with the governments of the nations that the crew belong to in order to find a way to resolve this situation with extreme prejudice.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)17:47 No.18938181
    Does anyone else see that map as a paunchy grey faced man in a green jacket and blue jeans, flipping a table in anger?
    >> Aviationfag 05/01/12(Tue)17:51 No.18938232

    Fuck that, we'd be violating the DMZ.

    Better to see if we can find where they're stored at night, and then arrange for the ceasefire to end at night, with our Fulcrums in the air, and loaded for the strike, already on their way.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)17:53 No.18938259


    "The Government of Zanzia will not negotiate with terrorist. Such bargains are conducted in bad faith and any regional force willing to resort to such measure to seize power will no doubt be willing to abuse our citizens in such a manner.

    We urge the pirates to release the hostages and surrender peacefully. Should you choose to do so, our government is willing to pardon your transgressions. Any harmful actions towards the hostages will not be tolerated.

    Our coast guard and any available assets stand ready to assist the UN forces in retaking the ship and rescuing the hostages."

    If they agree to surrender, interrogate them on who their employers were, then release them.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)17:57 No.18938318
    No we wouldn't, if the tanks are defecting to us.
    Otherwise we can drive them to the Ghana border and loop around the DMZ that way.

    And if we can't steal them, then we can sabotage them to destroy the tanks and the crews. Trained crew are more valuable than just a tank.
    >> Aviationfag 05/01/12(Tue)18:02 No.18938376

    Still, we'd have to violate the DMZ to do any of that. We can't do anything openly that isn't on the up and up, or else we lose international support.

    I suggest leaflet drops, and a planned airstrike and/or commando raid timed to go off with the end of the DMZ.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)18:09 No.18938474
    That depends on the rules of the DMZ set up by the UN. Allowing military personnel to defect along with their equipment is possible.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)18:15 No.18938543
    Handling new employee documentation. If I get time Ill make a new post before I leave.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)19:04 No.18939070
    I take it GL didn't get time to make another post before he had to leave.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)19:24 No.18939342
    Alright, assuming that the rules of the DMZ don't allow soldiers to defect with their equipment, can we agree to set up and attempt a commando raid to steal the tanks the moment the ceasefire is broken, with a backup plan to have an air strike destroy the tanks if they can't be stolen?
    >> Aviationfag 05/01/12(Tue)19:27 No.18939384

    We don't have the fast insertion to GET even 40 men to their depot fast enough, assuming we use the Hip.

    You're asking the impossible. The best we could do is a partial steal using our Hinds and Hip with our best soldiers who crosstrained slightly on our T-55s, and then inserted under Fulcrum cover, followed by a few thermobarics.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)19:32 No.18939455
    We already have scouts and spies operating in areas near the tanks. We also have more trained personnel that we do vehicles to go around.
    We can get the crews in place via smuggling them past the DMZ or by going through Ghana, and have them wait nearby for when hostilities reignite.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)20:13 No.18940170
    Home now. Making new post.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)20:28 No.18940427
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    -Only origional G-Convention rules are signed.

    -A second Fulcrum has been sent but Russia will not send weapons to arm it.

    -Your troops have had some issues distinguishing civilians from targets in the past, and it has already been addressed several times in the past. Your men have not had any chance to show their 'new learning' yet...

    -Fire fight slowed down for the time being and it seems all hostiles have been eliminated... you have lost twelve men in this conflict to combat, with over 40 injured civilians and troops to the initial rebel ambush and continued fire fight. BBC broadcasts your forces as the good guys.

    -Our income is taxed right now, upgrades are possible but it could take a long time to get them in place. Already we are working on upgrading education, food systems, and keeping the police well funded.

    -Media-Attacks of the Rebels has begun in regards to the tanks.

    -Rebel Backer Intel is not readily available. France has the EU looking into it along with their own intelligence agency.

    -SeaCord vessel is registered out of New York City, New York. The corporation is based there.

    -UN has no serious naval assets in the area. Hostages have been threatened with death if any vessel approaches them. We have no capability and France has asked we not step in for now. They assure us the world will not see this as our fault...

    -Black Superman has been spotted having rented a speed boat from a local, nearly out of business, vacation hotel.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)20:34 No.18940521
    >Fire fight
    Get everyone to hospitals, try to find a rebel that's alive so that we can interrogate them.
    Begin an investigation on the car bomb and attempt to get evidence linking it to the rebels.

    >extra Fulcrum
    Thank Russia for the Fulcrum.
    Ask about purchasing weapons for it. See if we can get a good deal.

    Acquiesce to France's request for now. Ask America and their State Department if there is anything they need from us.

    >Black Superman
    Turn a blind eye to his activities. If it works, the hostages are saved. If it doesn't, we disavow all connections with this obvious madman.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)20:38 No.18940586
    Can our intelligence assets get anywhere near the tanks? Could we smuggle C4 and radio detonators to them in order to sabotage the tanks when the time comes?
    >> Aviationfag 05/01/12(Tue)20:45 No.18940726

    >A second Fulcrum has been sent but Russia will not send weapons to arm it.

    Fantastic! Can we get some HARMs, thermobaric rocket pods, laser and dumb bombs, ATGMs, and cannon pods for it from any of its operator states? Maybe India?

    - If this was the rebels, make sure to lambast them as much as possible for violating the DMZ, and the civilian casualties. Push for the DMZ to be dissolved so we can retake our country from those monsters.

    -Economy - Is is possible to issue tax incentives for private ventures to allow for economic growth, or have we done all we can?

    -Media Warfare - Good, continue with the above angles as well is possible. See if we can arrange interviews with surviving civilians. (If those civilians are willing)

    -SeaCord - Then there's probably a Burke on it's way with DEVGRU

    -Black Superman - As much as I'd like him to do it, call him and tell him it's better to let other nations take care of it. We don't want to risk anything happening, as unlikely as it is. (We still gave him a badge and a cell phone in this one, right?)
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)20:58 No.18940981
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)21:12 No.18941273
    But has Black Superman ever really listened to our orders?
    Sure, fine, we may as well try to stop him since we were specifically asked by France to let them take care of it, but I'm not optimistic of our chances.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)21:22 No.18941434
    The only point of contention is on Black Superman, and I'm willing to tell him to stop and let the French handle this.

    I don't think you'll get many other dissenting votes, GL.
    >> Aviationfag 05/01/12(Tue)21:51 No.18941938

    We gave him a badge and satellite phone when we last brought him in, and told him "Do your thing, but if we call you and say "Don't do this for reason x, you better listen, because it'll hurt Zanzia as a whole."
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)21:55 No.18942004
    We can try. But like I said, I'm not optimistic of our chances.
    >> Aviationfag 05/01/12(Tue)21:59 No.18942073

    He's a hero, but he isn't stupid. If we lay out that we aren't doing anything because we can't, and that other nations want us to stay out of it because they obviously have a plan to deal with it, I think he'll stay away. Sure, he might not *like* it, but he respects our authority since we're not a corrupt tinpot.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)22:45 No.18942790
    Alright, let's see how effective it was, then.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/12(Tue)23:14 No.18943347
    Goddammit, where the fuck are you GL?
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/01/12(Tue)23:37 No.18943765
    ...was handling admin things on my minecraft server.

    ...s-s-sorry.../tg/-kun...please don't hit me. Im stopping for tonight though, im drunkl, worn out, and sleepy.

    Sorry guys, next week, we will pick up from here.
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    Alright, GL.
    Next week, 14:00 server time.

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