(( Anyone? ))

>>18936856
Brofist Archer.

Seek out the home of the Master, we know he's going to be out and if we drop a full power trap on his porch he'll already be drained after people have tried to kill him, if he lives, and finish him off that way.

>>18937034
I call one of my agents and retrieve the address. Before leaving, I make sure to trap the boat with temporary runes of unluck. Docking the ship, we head towards his residence - a small house on the outskirts of the city. It doesn't take long, and I load my pistol as we approach.

[There's no way to know what's waiting for us there - what the Master has set up.] Odysseus states. [We must remain as careful as we can. We know he works with barriers, but not the age of his Family or the quality of his crest.]

[We must assume he has one instance of Jack in his home.] I reply. The car stops, [Any remaining traps or suchlike will be nothing in the face of a threat like that. Archer, materialize.]

"Yes." comes Archer's voice behind me. He is reassuring. I examine the front porch from a distance. The place is not marked, nor is it emitting energies like my own traps would. A car sits in the driveway, but it's not the Master's, as far as I can tell.

What do I do from here?

>>18937184
Check for barriers by throwing a rock or something in the house's general direction.

This might not be his actual Atelier but it could be obfuscated somehow. Do a few magic tests to see if it's there, maybe send a small puff of bad luck towards the house and see what pops up.

Ask Archer to cover us as we investigate the car, if he has guests of some kind we should find out what we can about them, we'll break into it and see what documents and identification we can find.

>>18936856
YES! I DIDNT MISS IT THIS WEEK! IT IS A GOOD DAY!
Other than that, don't let the low participation and the beginning discourage you,it's still pretty early, after all.

>>18937184
We wait until the press conference, if we storm his house he will be alerted probably and everything goes to hell. I say we should enter his house WHILE the press conference-setup is in full motion.
I don't really think that the master would be stupid enough to not expect that someone could find out where he lives, so we should sent our familiar in to check for booby traps if we decide to go in. Also Archer should stay at our side the whole time.

Also Kids, time for a quiz!
Who knows which Servant & Master we can completly ignore?

>>18937290
We don't know which Master yet. You can usually ignore Lancer, he gets fucked over given fate tradition, but given Big O's luck of F that sort of thing might go to us and Lancer has decent luck this time. Given that we don't know exactly who Rider, Saber, Lancer and Berserker are we're operating on a deficit of information.

It'd be good to know which Master's have which servant.

Caster is going to be nastier business this time around than usual, we've got fucking King Solomon and Archer does not have the skillset to take him out. We're going to have to want to point other people at him.

>>18937290
>Wait until the press conference

It should be happening any minute now.

>Send in familiar
Don't have another - the only one I have is you, and you're sort of stuck here with me.

>Check for barriers
I lob a pebble over the steps up to the porch. Nothing. I frown, nodding at Archer. Mortal magic shouldn't hurt him, and I move to the car. It seems fairly normal. There's faint magical residue on the back seat, but other than that, nothing. I'm frowning as I turn to the house and see someone move in the windows of the second floor.

Shit! I never considered he'd have a family...

"Archer, Are there wards?"

"No. At least, none that react to me."

And then the front door slams open, a teenager holding a shotgun and facing down Archer.
"Who are you and what do you want with Dad." he asks, finger on the trigger as he clicks off the safety.

Shit, shit, shit!

>>18937408
I'm assuming we know the Chief's first name.

Mentally get Archer to say that "*name*, asked us to keep you safe, the streets aren't safe and given what's been going on lately with his job he's worried that people are going to try to use you to get to him. Come with us, we're taking you to a more secure location."

Convince her to come with us. We'll wheedle information out of her, see if she knows her father's a Mage, involved in the HGW and what she knows about his plans, his crest and the age of his family. That and we get leverage on him.

>>18937373
Nobody knows if its Solomon man and its probably best not to assume it is. If we do its gonna fuck us in the ass when we get blindsided.

>>18937408
>Don't have another - the only one I have is you, and you're sort of stuck here with me.

Let's make it clear, master: You suck at being a mage.
I mean.. the other masters probably have a shitload of Familiars, like.. Doves and Ravens or Rats or whatever to spy on us.

>"Who are you and what do you want with Dad." he asks, finger on the trigger as he clicks off the safety.

Welp. Okay. Can we use our mage to shiel us from a shotgunshot? If not, use Big O as Shield, Servants can only get hurt by magical or conceptual weapons. Than shot the Kid, but try not to kill him if possible.
Anyway, shot first, ask questions later. Stupid brat.

>>18937639
Big O has tongue of cunning, unless he has direct evidence against it we can convince him of almost anything. We could tell him that we're his uncle and aunt and he'd believe us. With something like that talking first makes sense, it's harder to get proper answers out of someone with a bullet in them and it really keeps them from trusting and confiding in us.

>>18937639
>our mage to shiel us from

Ah, I derped hard. I meant "Can we use our magic to shield us from bullets?"

>>18937678
All we have is bad luck inducing magic if I recall correctly. We can probably use that to jam the gun, or break the firing mechanism or something though.

>>18937695
Ouh, I like that.

>>18937676
I'm aware of that, but people pointing firearms at me make me grumpy. I'm sorry, but I've played enough Shadowrun to know how badly usually things turn out when someone points a gun at you.
Also: Shooting first then asking questions is kind of a golden rule. It sure as hell worked well for Kiritsugu..

>>18937373
>Caster is going to be nastier business this time around than usual, we've got fucking King Solomon and Archer does not have the skillset to take him out. We're going to have to want to point other people at him.

Ah, could you give me a quick rundown of his myth? I can't really recall who he was or what he did.

>>18937462
[Archer-]
[I got it.]

"Woah, put that down." Archer says gently. "Chief asked us to keep an eye on you. Let us in, we need to ask you a few questions. To keep you safe." There's a few tense seconds, then the teenager lowers the shotgun, relaxing.
"Alright. You have a name?"
"Just another officer." he says, "And my partner." he gestures to me. "You don't need to concern yourself with our names."
"Alright, sir. Please come in."

Pleased I hid my command spells with white gloves, we step in. He closes the door, locks it, then sets down the shotgun. "You guys Black Cats?" he asks. Archer nods and the boy nods, slapping the side of the wall. Purple lines shoot from the point of impact, lacing through the house. There;s a sound like armor strapping into place and he straightens up. "Good. Then you know what Father is up to." he says. "We should add more fuel to the Crucible before we can talk. Come on." he gestures for us to follow, into the basement.

The smell of blood assaults my senses as we enter the basement. A huge cauldron sits in the center of the room, purple lines emenating from it. My magical sense lets me feel that energy is constantly being drawn from it. That explains the power of the shield earlier - he's created a well of power to draw from instantly, using the blood of his son (who seems to be normal) and other mortals. He cuts his palm and holds it over the cauldron, and the lines instantly brighten. Soon, he presses gauze to it, wrapping it tightly. Then he looks to us expectantly.

Not good - if we throw our blood in there, it might be charged enough to allow him to survive the attacks.

You feel anger from Archer, but he maintains his pokerface.

>>18937775
This means we have a direct magical line straight to the Chief. He draws magic from it to protect himself. Cut our hand, have Archer distract him for a few moments, infuse the cauldron with all of the bad luck we can, it ought to flow straight to the Chief, fake putting blood in and then bandage up our hand to make it look like we did so.

For Archer he can probably come up with a damn good lie for not putting his blood in, this kid isn't magical so he can probably string various magic related words together to bullshit himself out of it.

>>18937775
We could try draining the magical energy, that should leave the chief relatively defenseless.

We can "put" Archer's on. Get him to do it as its first induction or something, and we drove him to it. He can spin the story.

>>18937775
I still think we should shoot the kid and burn down the house.
Just to make a point.
I mean.. that guy found is, it was probably his goon who tried to shoot us when we fleed and burned down our mansion and it's the Grail War anyway. What we know is that the Policeman-Master is perfectly willing to get his son and his fellow policemen involved.
We can't be blamed if something happens to them and if you think about it: There are far more people involved in this than we would like.

I say try to find out the names of the "Black Cats" that are involved, then kill the brat, destroy the device and burn the house. If the Police-Chief survives the assault our Allies prepared for him this should shake him up a bit. If not, also good, we eliminated people who knew about the HGW and we were involved and hey, if even the church and the Association says its okay to silence witnesses, why should we bother?

>>18937775

That isn't good. We need to neutralize this kid. Bloodlessly, if possible.

>>18937969
We probably can't do it because we got a medical coming or something.

>>18937510
>Nobody knows if its Solomon man and its probably best not to assume it is.

Why exactly do you think it's King Solomon?

>>18938046

Because he's metagaming. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

>>18938046
I do not. That was the entire point of the post. We DO NOT KNOW if he is Solomon or not, furthermore if we think it is him then we're probably in for a nasty surprise. Wheres your reading comprehension?

>>18937762
>Ah, could you give me a quick rundown of his myth? I can't really recall who he was or what he did.

Well, there's a fair few myths about how he was a wise king.
What is probably MOST prominent for the grail war however is the fact that he's the root of all Deamonology.

[Something troubling you, Archer?]

[He's involving his family. Hurting them for his ambition.]

[Don't allow your emotions to get involved here.]

[Right.]

"Very well." I say.

"I can't." Archer says. "Blood thinners."

The boy gives him a stare as I smile, infusing bad luck into my blood as I open my palm. The cauldron lights up, and the lines brighten. Excellent. Working quickly, I seal the wound as Archer finishes his explanation. "And that's why I shouldn't give him any. Bad luck." he finishes. "Heck, it might have rubbed off on my partner here."

The boy looks a little worried, and my phone rings.
"Excuse me." I say, walking to the living room.

"Milady. The assault has begun." he says. "We can confirm the biker's Servant is Rider - Though he has yet to use any Noble Phantasms. Barriers have halted attack for the moment."

"I see." I respond. "Is there anything further to report?"

"Yes - the Servant has drawn a sword - it's wreathed in fire. He is striking at the barrier - He's through. He's approaching the Master. Ah. There's the Servant. This might take some time."

"Please call only when the target has been eliminated."

"Yes ma'am." he replies. There is swearing downstairs, and I rush down.

Archer is holding a knife away from the boy, who is clearly distressed - the room is dim, as are the magical lines.

>>18938123
>the Servant [rider] has drawn a sword - it's wreathed in fire

Well, at least this mean he's not Noah. That guy would have been AT least as bad a Solomon if it had been.

>>18938123
>Barriers have halted attack for the moment.

I told you guys. Kill the brat, destroy the device, burn down house.
I knew that the guy wouldn't go out into broad daylight for a Speech if he wasn't prepared for it.

"Calm down, escape is always an option if we pool our efforts, no need for that... do we know who started this?"

Mentally, ask Archer if we should stay here or just take our best excuse to leave.

>>18938243
Scorched earth policy is the safest policy. But doing so, especially at day...

Its gonna get you hunted down.

>>18938123

Take out the device. His shield will fail, and he'll get assraped by Saber.

>>18938315

The bad luck curse has probably already turned the atelier here into a great big beacon that's going to draw every single hero here to stomp it either on purpose or by accident.
Not to mention lost Pizza Delivery Guys, cat's and foxes are going to be unerringly drawn to their bins, the fuse box is probably going to go at just the wrong moment, gas leaks...

This whole house is probably a ticking timebomb now.

>>18938394

Yeah, but that'll take time. If we fuck it up now, we can let Saber trash his ass without lifting a finger. And make good our escape before any other Servants/Masters show up.

>>18938123
I say we knock out the kid to make sure he doesn't do anymore blood offerings before the deed is done.

>>18938421

Err, I meant Rider. Derp.

>>18938421
>>18938454

We dont WANT Rider to trash his ass without we want them to near as much destroy each other and take on weakened victor.

>>18938287
>Its gonna get you hunted down.

Yeah, no. Neither the Mage's Association nor the Church really cares about as long as you don't go overboard in the Grail War and draw attention to it. And this is pretty much what the Policeguy was doing by involving his men.

"Leave him. We have more important places to be. Take the lead, and secure the path back."

He nods, slamming the knife high into the wall and running past me. The boy reaches for it in vain. "You want to help your father, don't you?" I ask, and the boy nods. I smile, then grasp his hands. "Here." kicking his feet from under him, I throw him into the cauldron. There's a brief scream as he is converted into pure Prana, which I then tap and convert to unluck. He failed to make his mana pool secure - so I am able to mess with it this way. I make certain all reactions are self-sustaining, and walk out of the house. Anyone who draws from that is in for a swift death.

"It's handled?"

"It's handled." I reply. My phone rings.

"Yes?"

"Target has died."

"... That's an odd phrasing."

"Well, Ma'am, the Servant rushed him. He erected several small barriers in an attempt to escape. However, said barriers were destroyed with little effort as the Servant advanced. Then he dropped dead."

"Without being attacked?"

"Yes. I also report a minor mental assault when the blade is wielded. Most individuals fled the scene." the agent states. "Jack has escaped, but we are not aware of how long he has independant action. He may attempt to sustain himself with mortals."

"That won't be an issue."

"Are you certain?"

"Yes."

"What of Rider's master?"

"He was not present."

"... Where is he?!"

"I do not know, ma'am."

>>18938506

To be fair, to get the Church or Association involved you'd have to do something really stupid, like summon Cthulhu right in the middle of town.

>>18938516
>kicking his feet from under him, I throw him into the cauldron.

STONE COLD.

>>18938516
> "You want to help your father, don't you?" I ask, and the boy nods. I smile, then grasp his hands. "Here." kicking his feet from under him, I throw him into the cauldron.

>>18938516

Shit, Liz, that was pretty good. Let's GTFO of here and start hunting people down.

>>18938516
((SHIT.

[15:22] Shot__ "Yes" and the next line should be one paragraph

SORRY BROS))

>>18938627

'Sokay.

Anyway, Assassin and Police Boy are down. Is our ceasefire agreement with von Einzbern, Argyle, and Sunder still valid?

Now we need a deal to take on Caster. We don't want him to bind Jack, after all.

>>18938733

Shit, yeah. Casters can summon Servants. Also, GET IN THE IRC SERVER, ANONS! IT'S LONELY IN HERE!

>>18938782

But can Caster make a contract with a loose Servant? I thought you had to have a Command Seal to do that...

"We should head back." I pull out my phone and dial another Agent to pick me up. Archer takes spirit form, and we begin to head back. It isn't long before I notice a group of bikers approaching behind us. "Agent, we're being pursued."

"Ma'am." he replies, and I feel myself pushed against the seat slightly as he picks up speed.

"Should have known..." I mutter, opening the sunroof. Archer stands through it, aiming his bow - but a gunshot resounds and he flinches. A tiny cut appears on his shoulder. Both of us stare at it briefly.

Wait... what?!

>>18938782
>GET IN THE IRC SERVER, ANONS! IT'S LONELY IN HERE!

Nah. I'm at work.

Other than that: We can either move back to our Sanctum and wait or.. dunno.. look for Rider 's Master?
Also Burning Sword.. I think that should Saint George.

>>18938819
Look, it's safe to assume that any Hero who is summoned as Caster managed to forget more about Magic in his Lifetime than the whole Mage's Association could ever learn about it.

They may be not the best servants because most other servants have Magic Resistance, but they sure know how to fuck up the Holy Grail War beyond Redemption.

>>18938848

He wasn't really famed as a rider though. If they DID force a Rider class summoning of him, then it's probably to our advantage, it's not a good match for him: he's usually a Saber class servant.

I'm pretty sure he got statted out for the Fate Apocrypha.
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Fate/Apocrypha_characters

Although to be fair, I only count Nasu and Type Moon designs as being canon for this.

>>18938847

Just a cotton-pickin' minute! Aren't we totally NOT supposed to involve outsiders if we can help it? Why the Hell is everyone disregarding this?

Also, RETURN FIRE! BOW OF THE OX!

>>18938847
Dohoho! Looks like someone got hold of a conceptual weapon. That will be fun.

Anyway, order him to unleash all hell with his bow on them. Even with something like that it takes a lot to take down a servant.

>>18938903
Guy appears as a knight in every damn painting and miniature while killing the dragon.

Call the cops, biker gangas shouldn't be near policemen neighborhoods.

>>18938934

*cough* Kiritsugu.

Caution is advised.

Fuck yeah! Car chase!

>>18938949
>Guy appears as a knight in every damn painting and miniature while killing the dragon.

It could still just as easily be any number of other Knights. One of Charlemagne's paladins for instance.

"Return fire, Archer. From inside the car?" I ask, having taken cover between the back of the front seat and the back seat. Thank god the car is bullet-proofed.
Odysseus manages to summon the bow after both windows in the back are rolled down and fires - One, two, three of the bikers taken out - but a chain whips out, knocking the fifth from the air.

More join in the chase from side roads.
"Shit! Where are they coming from!?"

And then Rider appears, riding his own bike. I remember him from the restaraunt, but now he's decked in actual armor, holding a flaming sword while another sits sheathed on his hip. He leads the pack, now, flaming blade held forth.

"A knight riding a motorcycle in full armor." I bluntly state.

While my agent pulls us into a hard, drifting turn, the gang follows, but only about two thirds make it.
"Please remain in cover, my lady." he says, completely calm.

>>18939058

Bad Luck should be easy to target now. Get the bikers out, we can let O deal with Rider.

>>18939058

We need to get off the road and away from the car. mobile battles are Rider's territory - we need room to maneuver.

>>18939058
HOREY SHET!

Anyway, the Goons are not a big threat, the Servant on the Motorbike is. While our Spells probably wouldn't do jack shit against the Servant we can try to curse his bike with bad luck.
Tell Archer not to aim at the Goons but at their front wheels. Have you seen what happens to a bike at full speed when the Tire explodes?

>>18939237

This! This!

>>18939237
Bad luck Riders front tire!

>>18939237
>>18939117
...
Spoke jam.


So, how does our bad luck work? Can we blanket an area to affect those within with bad luck? Putting an area like that around where the most bikers are would be a good idea, if that were the case.

>>18939267
"Go for the wheels." I hiss, preparing my crest. "I will amplify the strike." I touch my fingers to the crest, whispering the germanic phrase. Normally I don't go this far, but I'm not in a mood to fuck around. I had to kill a teenager today. It didn't leave me in a good mood. I let the Unluck drop through the car to the asphalt below as the arrows fly, slamming into the wheels of the goons - Rider's bike is struck last, and he hurtles from his seat while the gang erupts into fire. About half of them avoid the pileup.

Rider soars through the air, and he screams something to the air - I don't hear it, but a white horse appears beneath him, shining as he lands in the seat.

"My lady, I advise we head to the water and escape."

And then the knight draws his other sword, a shining white blade. He shouts and spurs the horse forth.

Meanwhile, the car shakes with the sound of exploding tires.

"Do not fear, we have all-wheel drive, my lady, and they only got the back."
There's mayeb three bikers left. None of them are masters.

>>18939387
Have Archer kill the goons. Should be easy, right?

>>18939387

Dang. I was hoping for firey death. So he can summon a horsey - either Spirit Beast or a straight-up Noble Phantasm, right?

Agent must have guns available, at least.

Can wee... move O's luck to Rider and let us and the Agent shoot the bikers?

>>18939473

So, famous sword, famous horse. It's definately looking like one of the Charlemagne Paladin Posse.

>>18939473

I'm guessing Noble Phantasm, since he had to say something to summon it.

>>18939516

So, Noble Phantasm is a horse, wields a flaming sword and a shining white (read: holy) one too, and wears plate mail. My guess is St. George.

>>18939423
>>18939387
>Rider soars through the air, and he screams something to the air - I don't hear it, but a white horse appears beneath him, shining as he lands in the seat.

Pfff! Like I give a fuck!

Head to the Docks like Archer suggested, he should keep up with his Barrage of Arrows on Rider and his Horse. That should probably give us some leeway until we reach water.
With the Bikers we should deal ourselves, I mean, we have a gun after all. Use it.

>>18939585

I don't think St George had a famous horse though. My money is still on Roland/Orlando or someone from the Round Table.

"Agent Charmicheal, it's been a pleasure."

"Likewise."

"So please drive off the peir - the one the boat is on. Archer, use one arrow to cut the mooring line as we approach. I will finish the last of the bikers."

[Very well.]

Again, I pull more prana into my crest, muttering the activation keyword. I scatter it out, slamming it into the last three bikers as we approach the pier. I open the door slightly as the arrow sails down ahead of us, slicing through the mooring rope as the bikers slam into a street light, a fire hydrant, and a pig statue. As soon as we hit wood, I bail.

[Spirit form! Get on the boat and drive away!]

I roll onto the deck painfully as we turn and begin to tug away. Rider approaches the end of the pier. And then the horse leaps - landing on the deck as I scramble to safety and arrows rain around the knight. He hacks them out of the air while the boat finally gains speed and Archer stands between me and Rider.

>>18939741

>Carmichael
>Black Cats

Do you read the Dresden Files, by any chance?

>>18939817
((The first was a pun, the second, a reference. Nice catch. ))

>>18939741

We need to get Carmichael away from Odie so he can King of Lies without it dropping to B
Do you read the Dresden Files, by any chance?

>>18939872
When Odie summons his boat, where does it come from? If we get rider into the water, can Odie drop the boat on him?

>>18939817

GTFO my head

>>18939741
>And then the horse leaps - landing on the deck

Well now I'm pissed. We serve him Assassins Master on a silver plate and he goes full T-1000 on us? Fuck him!
UNLEASH THE KRA-.. uh... Noble Phantasm I guess. There is fat chance that Archer thanks to his NP can surprise and defeat Rider so I say we stay back and let him handle the fight.

>>18939916
Can Odysseus take him in the water? Doubt swordsmanship and riding matter much there.

>>18939977
He'll just summon a seahorse. It wouldn't be good for anyone.

>>18939968
>NOBEL

I need a wide eyed macro.

>>18940003
We don't know if her can do that, and unless he grabs a passing shark....

Don't put him in the water unless absolutely necessary.

>>18939968
No, no no no, don't bust out our trump card right away. Fight more conventionally for the moment.

Or try talking to him, figure out who he is.

>>18940024
Yeah, have the King of Liars try to talk some info out of him.

>>18939872

This, or, if this doesn't work,

>>18939916

This.

>>18939872
Charmichael is already swimming away.

Rider and Archer circle one another while I hide, watching.

"Someone's not very grateful. We practically handed you Assassin's Master." Archer says.

"Not my concern. My lord's orders are orders. He sends his thanks - and his regret that this is necessary."

"Necessary? We could ally." Archer says.

"And delay the inevitable fight. Only one man can claim the grail."

"Or woman." Archer corrects. "Still, there are strong servants in this War. If anyone wants to win, teamwork will be necessary."

They continue to circle.
And then Rider sheathes his weapons.
"I will not do battle. You seem hesitant and I am not in the best terrain either. Bring me to shore and you have my word no harm shall come to you until next we meet, at least from me or my master."

"Are you capable of making such a vow?" Archer asks.

"I am. I have just asked."

"Good. Bring me around, then." he says, dismounting from the horse and returning to his normal snappy outfit.

>>18940183
((Damnit, did it again. It should read...
"Are you capable of making such a vow?" Archer asks.

"I am. I have just asked."

"Good."

"Bring me around, then." he says, dismounting from the horse and returning to his normal snappy outfit.

>>18940183
Well he is a Shining Knight
they tend to keep vows.

So a load of bikers just died and we have a really short truce.

Get some info out of him. See if he knows about Caster.

>>18940238
Hey! A load of bikers died, we know about this guys weapons now without reveling Odie's own, and our agent got away.

I'm willing to call this a win.

>>18940238
So, who is going to clean up all the broken motorcycles and dead bodies lining the way to where our boat was docked?

>>18940211

I don't like this. Vow or no vow, his Master could burn a Command Seal and force him to attack us anyway. And I reiterate: we need an ally. Seriously. I know I'm kinda hung up on that, but really.

>>18940291
Well, the cops of course. We don't really have to worry about them now, now that the Magus is dead.

We could kill the President and Odie could get the charges dropped.

>>18940312

Guys...what if

What if

Guys

What if we found Assassin and got him a contract with one of our agents?

>>18940312
Child has her woman leash, so we won't get a real deal.
Einzbern probably considers sorcering or muay thai-ing everyone alone.
We are not going an inch close to Caster without Delta Green back and front.

Who is left?

>>18940350
I don't think that would work to well. For one thing, there's lots of him. For another, they're all crazy serial killers.

Besides, we'd have to break into the morgue and walk off with the cops command spell, right?

>>18940387

No, we get a real deal. She's got a leash - HE's got a Command Spell. And all we have to do is convince her that we won't hurt the kid, until he and we are the only ones left. She seems nice enough.

Einzbern would burn our collective ass the moment he thought it would benefit him, and Biker Dude just tried to.

>>18940350

Regrettably, it doesn't work that way. Masters have to have a Command Seal in order to form a contract. No seal, no Servant. Good thinking, though, Anon.

>>18940416

Couldn't be that hard. We have Archer's Gift of Tongues thing, so I'm sure we could get ourselves in.

At this point it's not really looking like any of the other Masters or Servants will be trustworthy (Rider already betrayed us). It might be worth looking into recruiting someone who's strengths we already know.

>>18940452

What about what Kotomine did in F/SN? He killed Bazett (sp?) and stole her Command Seals in order to control 5th War Lancer.

>>18940183
>You seem hesitant and I am not in the best terrain either.

I say we tell Big O to stab the Guy in the back as soon as he turns around.
Fuck his vow and fuck his master. We just massacred his Master's Friends and he's calling it a day? No, fuck him. Stab the shit out of him. We'll still have to confront him and his master so let's do it at our terms.
Also, it's pretty sure that he underestimates us and Big O. He probably thinks that we're just some Archer and his Servant he got cornered, while we in fact are in Big O's strong ground. Kill him here and now.

>>18940350
That's not how it woorks. You have to have a Command-Spell in the first place to summon a servant or make a deal with a Servant that has lost his Master.

Nah, we don't need to ally with Rider. Let him go.

Though ideally we'd just shoot him in the back and kill him at shore.

>>18940452
Can we TAKE his Command spell? The Priest in the game stole Lancer from someone, after all, and we only saw him us one command spell. He should have two left.

>>18940500
I agree with this guy. Stab the fucker in the heart like Kirei did to Tohsaka. Fuck him up good.

>>18940500

What about what happened with 5th War Caster? Didn't she kill her Master, survive for a bit on Independent Action, and then become the Servant of that teacher guy?

>>18940505
>>18940500
inthebackmind

>>18940488
>>18940514

Actually he cut off her arm WITH the command spell..

>>18940549
So, can we go and GET the dead mans arm?

>>18940488
>>18940514

Special case. Unused (read: owner died before they were used) Command Spells go to the Church's representative. In Fate/Zero, Kotomine's dad had tons of Command Spells from previous HGWs. So, when he killed Bazett, her Command Spell automatically went to him anyway. Again, good thinking, but alas, no.

[Archer. I'm going to turn the boat. You take the chance and assault him!]

[But the vow-]

[We never agreed to one. We just commented how good it was he made the offer.]

[... Heh. Very well!]

We're actually pretty far from shore. But it's not hard to turn around. As soon as I do, I hear a cry of shock. I look outside and see that the horse is gone, and the knight and Archer are fighting - Archer has drawn his blade and - there it is! he slips in close, fighting hard. But this isn't like Jack. Rider is stronger, and armored. His sword - not a Noble Phantasm in truth - skitters against the armor Rider wears as he cries out in betrayal.

And then he just... vanishes.

Archer swears, loudly, throwing his blade into the deck in frustration.

>>18940628
There is a way to steal spells though. Caster cuts off Shirou's arm and steals them in a bad ending. Or was that just because she removed his arm with Rule Breaker.

>>18940631
Shit. Rider is going to come after us now.

We should prioritize eliminating his Master.

>>18940631
What just happened? Did we just fuck up? Are we fucked?

Do we have to change hiding places AGAIN?

>>18940631

God fucking dammit, anon. That was stupid. I mean, really. We could've done all sorts of things - not the least of which being to have Odie use his lyingness to find out some info. But no, we ATTACK the fucker.

>>18940688

No, we're not fucked, but that WAS stupid. If we're going to ally with someone, ever, we need to do it now, efore we get a reputation as a backstabbing asshole. Call the kid up, actually in good faith this time.

>>18940538
>>18940538

He was a Fake Master. She fucked with him for Mana-Transfer when she was weak and after that she did just go suckey-suckey on the City and created her Sanctum at the temple. But he didn't have Command Spell in the first place.

Other than that: She's Caster. She doesn't have have to explain shit. Caster-Class is full of Hax.

>>18940752

Well, there goes my whole "get a second servant, be female!Kotomine and fuck with everyone" plan

What
>>18940746
said. If we want to team up with someone, now's our last shot. Probably.

>>18940631
>>18940688
>>18940698
>>18940746

Wahaha! What a faggot! He used a command Spell to call his Servant back! This is hilarious! Oh god my sides!

Hehehe, anyway..
>before we get a reputation as a backstabbing asshole

Right. We get the backstabbing repuration. After we didn't agree on anything in the first place and it was that guy who came after us after we gave Policeguy to him.

Ah, wait.. do we have Rider's Master phonenumber? If yes we should call him and just laugh at him.

>>18940631
That was so dumb! Who actually thought that giant anticlimax would work?

We need a pick for Odysseus. Who knew the harness had an actual effect?

>>18940894
I think he might only have one left!

>>18940894
I don't think he did. Couldn't Rider just go into spirit form?

I don't think there is a rule that they can't when under attack.

>>18940934
>I don't think there is a rule that they can't when under attack.

But then it becomes a Metapod fight!

>>18940934

We'd have sensed it. Eliza's not a rubbish magus like Shirou was.

>>18940894
>Ah, wait.. do we have Rider's Master phonenumber? If yes we should call him and just laugh at him.
Oh yes, he certainly won't make an alliance with Sabre and just ruin us.

>>18940969

That's what I'm worried about. I don't want Eliza to get double-teamed. That's why I keep pushing for an alliance with somebody.

>>18940968
So he actually used a Command Spell? Shit, what a moron.

Do you think Archer's voice works its wonders over the phone?

>>18941012
It did when we went to set up this plan in the first place.

>>18941025
Lets have Archer call another Master and tell him Rider betrayed us then.

Can anyone recommend some good FSN fanfics? I went through the VNs but I'm still in the mood for some Grail War.

>>18940900
>>18940969
Sheesh, keep your panties on.

Look, first off. Bikerguy was the one who backstabbed us first. We got him Police-Chief-Master and he probably wouldn't even be able to do Shit if we hadn't sabotaged his Shield-Device.
He sent his Bikers AND his Servant after us when we just wanted to go home and recuperate.

If he calls us out a backstabbing he must be either a retard or pretty ballsy gus in the first place. And even then we can just tell him that we wanted to get back at him, after HE attacked us unprovoked.

>>18941046

You see Fate/Zero yet?

>>18941046
>>18941062
Better yet, read the F/Z novels.

>>18941012
He may have used 2. One to summon Rider to attack us in the first place, one to pull him back.

>>18941062
No, haven't seen any of the anime. Heard it was terrible.

>>18941135
You heard wrong.

>Time to call Lancer.

I sigh, rubbing my eyebrows as I dial.

...And Lancer picks up.
"So it seems your plan went off without a hitch. The chief of police has died."

"That it did." I reply. "Well, not quite. Rider soon came after me."

"Really?"

"Yes. I set no trap for him - I was not even aiming to assault him after he was weakened. I was chased through town by him."

"...I see. But what is the point of this call?"

"I'd like to propose an Alliance."

"...One condition. Tell me everything you know, and we are clear. Meet me in the church at midnight if you're still interested."

Then Lancer hangs up.
Hm. That was... pretty cheap. But then, I have to get to the church. Rider's out there, somewhere.

(( >>18941135
You heard wrong. It's pretty decent. At least, on it's own merits. ))

>>18941057

In fairness, our cease-fire expired last night, so there's technically no reason for him NOT to attack us. Especially since we weren't expecting it.

The "agreement" we made with Rider was different. Yes, technically we didn't agree to it, but that's just semantics. A tacit agreement is still an agreement. I'm not saying what we did was wrong per se, just that there were better ways to handle the situation.

>>18941128
I did wonder how Rider was suddenly right behind us after killing the Police chief.

Get to boat and safety?

Did he break truce in some way, any way, by preparing the ambush before killing him? Probably call the Church.

We should meet at the church as planned. Naturally Archer will do the talking.

>>18941161

OOC: Dammit, EGO, you did it again.

IC: We go for it. Level with her. No treachery, but be ready in case somebody tries funny business.

>>18941046
There is only one VN. Fate/Hollow Atraxia still isn't translated fully.
But you could:
- Watch Fate/Zero
- Watch the UBW-Movie and the Fate-Animu, though especially the last one is a bit jarring.
- Read the F/Z light novel, the Animu is based on it after all and I remember that it was mostly translated.
- Get yourself a PSP-Emulator and play Fate/Extra
- Watch Carnival Phantasm
- Check if the first Fate/Apocrypha-Novel is translated already.

>>18941212
Me again:

Scratch this. We should bro it up with Lancer. If we can establish a true relationship with 0 backstabbing it will do us good. We could even make a geas that says that if we are the last two left, only our Servants will fight for the Grail one on one.

tl;dr, we should establish a friendship.

>>18941046
There are no good fanfics.

>>18941260
((Carnival Phantasm is a bit more about Nasuverse than it is about Fate. You'll get a lot more of the humour if you read Tsukihime first.))

>>18941161
>At least, on it's own merits.
You mean its.

>>18941161
Lancer is the woman whose master is the kid right?

We won't initiate treachery but it pays to be cautious. By tell everything we know we'll probably hold a bit back, like who our servant is but guessing at other servants is fair game.

a good alliance going is something we sorely need.

>>18941277

Seconded

>>18941260
Was KnK ever translated by anyone but the tard who changed most of the terminology?

>>18941161

I say we chill until midnight and then see what's up. Before we go there we should send out our Guys first to check if the air is clear. There is a big chance that this could be an ambush.

>>18941277
You can't establish a Team with zero backstabbing in the HGW. There can be only one winner after all.

>>18941302
I dunno. I heard that KnK, especially the Animu, is supposed to be pretty good, but somehow I lay off KnK for later everytime I remember it.

>>18941413
We could, however, set up a "If it's just you and me, best man wins" sort of alliance, though.

"Archer. We're making an alliance with Lancer and... David, I think his name was. Do you have any plans to get to the Cathedral?"

"Once there, we should be safe. It's getting there that is the issue. We don't know how Rider struck us so fast, and the speed of the assault seemed to indicate that his territory is large."

"Yes, it did..."

"What about a bus?" he asks.

"I'm not sure." I sigh. "Everything seems so dangerous..."

I call my Agents, and they verify that the roads have been cleared. However, there's a lot of bikers hanging around still.

>>18941413
That's why I said we could establish a geas. We could word it so that if the two of us are left, we just make our Servants fight. The winner gets the Grail and the loser walks away. Hell, if you want it could be "We are forbidden from fighting each other, Master or Servant, until we are the last remaining participants."

>>18941413
I doubt it's an ambush. She wouldn't have stipulated that we level with her if she was trying to lure us in. All the same, better cautious than rash.

>>18941442
Huh.

..Does Seattle have an Airport? And by that I mean a smaller one for private aircrafts and planes.

>>18941442

We stay off the roads. Period. Let Archer carry us. Hell, go all Assassin's Creed and use the rooftops. Let the motorcycle bastards try to get us up there.

>>18941442
We bloodied the hell out of his nose and his goons rely on roads. We'll go building hopping and stay high up. Archer can do that.

Also, the brief time of Big O stabbing Rider in the back and him disappearing immediately doesn't count as revealing Prince of Lies, right?

>>18941484
Of course it does. It's freakin' Seattle.

>>18941550
That seems too obvious.
I always assume that there is at least one master outtthere who actually uses birds as familiars or whatever, its not hard to spy on us when we're playing The Tick in Seattle.

Either we go hijack ourselves a Helicopter or.. what probably no on would expect: We use PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. Like the Bus. Or the Subway. You know. Like a normal person would.

>>18941652

Assassin still has Independant Action. And remember, there are other Masters about. Still, it's a good idea. If we can't sense familiar-birdies, go with this. If we can, stay rooftops.

We need to think of places/traps where Rider cannot fight mounted for next time.

>>18941726
Anywhere with rough terrain would be good. How about a department store after hours or something like that? Low ceilings in hallways, plenty of counters to jump behind. He'd be hindered quite a bit.

>>18941726

our boat, perhaps. Or a rooftop.

>>18941726
The water. Oh look you're trying to ride over the water. Huh, you actually are riding on top of the water. I'd like to see you try it during a fucking storm then.

>>18941761
>>18941791
But he'll neevr take the chances in either, that's why we need somewhere else.

>>18941804

I say we play it like Kiritsugu and go after the Masters. Sure, it's underhanded, but it doesn't matter how cool and shiny your Servant is if you have an arrow through your head. And we've already taken out Police Boy the Shield-Focus Blood Mage, so ranged defenses around the other Masters' Workshops shouldn't be a huge problem, as long as we don't get too close and trip the wards.

"Is public transit available?"

"No." replies my Agent. "All public transit is halted until further noted due to 'terrorist activity'."

"Shit." I hang up. "How good are you at jumping, Archer?"

He smiles.

Several minutes later I'm holding his neck tightly as he leaps between buildings, humming what is apparently a sailing song.

"Why are you so upbeat!?"

"Because you're scared shitless." he replies dryly. "We're almost there, relax."

"I'll relax when you put me the hell down!"

Finally, we drop in front of the cathedral, stepping inside. Lancer, dressed now in green and yellow finery, like a cross between a tunic and a robe, stands there. The boy waves, smiling.

"So you came after all." Lancer says, one hand on her hip as she raises an eyebrow. "Was the trip hard?"

"No. Scary. Not hard." I elbow Archer to stop his laughter. "So, the alliance?"

"Information, first."

>>18941875
We want to be bros, but we should clarify that we aren't going to identify Archer. Tell them about Rider though. His horse, his two swords, etc.

>>18941875

What kind of information are you looking for, Lancer?

If she wants general info/info about other Masters, level with her. Completely. But ask that she do the same. Equivalent exchange and all that.

If she wants our Servant's identity/info about our magic, again equivalent exchange, but no identity, or any sort of specifics about anything.

We want these people as allies, but we can't afford to show our full hand. Ever.

>>18941875
Hey kiddo, Lancer, good to see you two. I love your outfit, you must tell me where you found it.

So what exactly are you looking for in information. Let's see, the Police Chief was in charge of Assassin, Jack the Ripper, he was a nasty blood mage and is now dead, but Jack could still be wandering around.

The Biker obviously has rider, two swords one was flaming the other was shining white, bitching horse, and can lead people. Something odd about the leading was that non-conceptual weapons used by his men were able to cause minor damage. Not sure exactly who it is as of yet though.

Also I think he's down a command seal or two.

I'm perfectly willing to spill everything I know on other masters and servants.

>>18941975
Dude, we have a Servant that has a permanent Charm-Spell on him. Why the fuck would we talk to them?

>>18941875

I say we Greet them, not overly casual or friendly, in a businesslike-manner. Other than that we already exchanged pleasantries. We ask what kind of Information Lancer wants and that we will only disclose any if the Exchange is mutual.

Also: DO NOT TRUST THE KID. Never. I've seen more than enough chinese cartoons to know that "Child" doesn't mean that he won't kill the shit out of us when he has the chance.

"I'm not about to tell you my Servant's identity. However, I can tell you what I know so far..."

"Please, do. I will, also."

I launch into an explanation of everything I've learned thus far. Finally, as I finish, Lancer nods.
"I understand. I only have a small amount of information - Einzbern has Saber. As for Berserker, We have only seen him once, briefly. He appeared to dressed in robes that bore many an insignia - not runes, not seals. Something... else. He moved with energy I did not expect, and held no weapons, raving and ranting. As for Caster, We saw a man robed in gold - not yellow, shining gold - speaking to a crowned owl with long legs." she goes on.

"Thank you for coming. We meant to seek out an alliance, but we were looking for the right time."

>>18942120

>Implying we didn't know that.

>>18942202
>Crowned owl with Long legs
>Stolas
>Great Prince of Hell

Son of a bitch. Its not Solomon, I'm pretty sure of that now.

Wait, so do we have any idea who Saber is right now? We saw a white horse, and two swords.

As for Caster, hope to god its not Hastur.

No idea who Berserker could be.

>>18942235
Faust possibly? Deal with the devil and all that.

>>18942304
I don't think Faust matches with the physical description. Nice guess though. Our worst case scenario is that Caster is Stolas himself and the own is his familiar. Then his Noble Phantasm would be his twenty six legions of demons.

>>18942202

Berserker's Lovecraft, Lancer. Anyway, now that we've shared information, here is my proposal - we create a geas against any of the four of us harming another, until we are the only ones remaining. At that point, you and Archer will face each other in single combat to determine the victor of the Holy Grail War. Until then, we fight as a unit, and preferably live as a unit, as well. There is, after all, safety in numbers.

>>18942202
Fine. Now I would propose the Alliance to them.
But without the Geas Cu proposed. I somehow sense that this will bite is in the ass in near future.

Also use the time to get to know the kid better and press as much intel out of him as we can. Where he came from, what his family is like, who teached him about magic all that stuff that could be somehow relevant. On the other hand, we're asked something answer in a nonchalant way, but at the same time, don't lie to him, but don't answer truthfully either.

Also: We should get ourselves a gun again. Just in case.

>>18942210
Shaddup and back to the coffer with you, Tohsaka.

Also:
>2012
>Not transporting your Magus in a chest

>>18942322
>26-
>"Oh thats not so ba-"
>-Legions of demons
>mfw

>>18942322
Maybe it's the opposite, and the owl is Caster and the human is just a golem of some sort?

>>18942380
That would suck too.

>>18942380
Are you saying Caster is Mr. Owl from Zelda and his familiar is the Sage?

>>18942380
Pic related.

>>18942304
Faust isn't known for being shiny and covered in gold. It's probably gold old Solly.

Tell them our suspicions about caster.

An alliance does sound good, we both agree to work together and not try to kill the other until the end, when we have a nice duel and go our separate ways.

So tell me about yourself kid, how did someone your age get involved in this?

>>18942371

Gun with Bad Luck Bullets. And not some pissy little WA-2000 - let's go for a DSR-50.

Pic related to what Liz'll look like with it.

>>18942447
Dude..
I was aiming for something small, handy and stealthy, something we can carry around in our coat not a goddamn Anti-Tank-Rifle..

>>18942487

MAC-10, then. But remember we're fighting things that shrug off building-destroying attacks.

>>18942447
>
Yeah, what >18942487 said, we don't need an anti-tank rifle to take down a person, and against a servant, it'd only be a delivery system for our bad luck runes

>He appeared to dressed in robes that bore many an insignia - not runes, not seals. Something... else.

Lovecraft?

>>18942510
Why would you shoot at a Servant in the first place?!
No. I thought that a gun comes in handy when we need a quick kill or the opportunity arises and it's just a bit down-to-earth than our magic. And if something is fishy we can use it to blow the kids, or any other unsuspecting masters brain out.

>>18942559
Servants are just as killable as any human being. They can be badly injured through physical combat, as is proven (repeatedly) by the visual novel.

>>18942559
Conceptual weapons. Those bikers managed to shoot Odie with one.

"I think... Berserker is Lovecraft."

She raises an eyebrow.
"Mayhaps. Now, what is the terms of this alliance?"

"We do not fight, and in fact, aim to assist one another, until such a time comes that we are the only ones standing. In that event, may the best Servant and the best Master win." I say.

"...Sounds agreeable. No need to make it a geas. We came to one another - Betrayal will stain none of our hands, agreed?"

"Agreed."

"Excellent. As a show of trust, why not spend this night at our abode?"

[Are you certain about this?]
[I am.]
[...Very well, my master.]

>>18942575
>>18942510
>>18942574
Conceptual weapons are rare as fuck. Like.. magical artifacts kind of rare. Especially firearms. I actually think that it was all about the bullets they used and not the actual firearms..

Other than that, its still hard as fuck to bring a servant down with them because they'll just heal it away.

How does Berserker Lovecraft even work?

>>18942642
((Messily.))

>>18942615
Isn't it too early for us to figure that Berserker is Lovecraft? We only have Lancer's description of him to go on.

>>18942642

DRIVEN MAD BY THE WHISPERS OF THE OLD ONES
LOVECRAFT WARPS THE VERY REALITY OF TIME AND SPACE IN HIS RAGE
UP IS PURPLE, DOWN IS LEFT, AND RIGHT IS 42
NOTHING CAN STOP HIM

>>18942629
>>18942575
It's possible they had conceptual guns or bullets but honestly that seems unlikely. The only ones who damaged us were right by Rider, perhaps they're enhanced by his leadership or something like that.

>>18942615

Goodness. Now, let's be careful on our way back, shall we? And remember to pack the toothbrush.

>>18942663
>>18942667
I mean how does it work fighting wise?

Is he all like "FUCK YOU CTHULU! I'M GONNA BEAT YOUR ASS!"?

>>18942690
WHO NEEDS TO FIGHT WHEN YOU'RE LOST IN THE INFINITE MAZE OF MADNESS?

>>18942698
I've decided then. This is the best Berserker ever.

>>18942615
>AdmiralAckbar.jpg

No, really, I'm out of ideas. While I don't think that this is the best move, we can actually get closer to kid and probe him.Maybe even find out who his Servant really is.

>>18942615
That sounds lovely. I'd love to see where you live.

Tell me David, how did you get involved in this war, you're rather young for a contestant.

We should leave Archer and Lancer to talk while we speak with David. Let them bond.

>>18942615
How are we sure this woman is Lancer? Maybe SHE is caster?

>>18942747

No. The kid described Caster as a "bad man."

Unless this is some kind of weird multiple-personality-and-gender Servant, Lancer is Lancer.

>>18942797
But how do we know she's Lancer? Did I miss something?

>>18942797
Bad man describes Stolas. I'm 75% sure we are dealing with a demon.

We shouldn't do anything overt in case we are wrong though.

>>18942808

Yeah. You missed the combination of our earlier analysis and EGO's accidental metagaming back in>>18941161

But yeah. Lancer.

>>18942797
>>18942808
We are still assuming she is Lancer. She could be Saber for all we know. Rider has been confirmed as "The knight in shining armor".

This chick is probably Saber. Odie's persuasion didn't work on her. Sabers have a high magic resistance.

"That sounds alright." I say. "So, David... How'd you end up in the war?"

"I wanted a mommy so bad, that, that I just got one!" he says with a huge smile. "Sort of. She says she's gonna help me get one! I just gotta win!"

Something about him makes me smile.

"I'm sure he was abandoned, or something." Lancer says quietly, ruffling his hair. "We don't live far off. Come on."

[She's trustworthy.]
[How do you know?]
[I know. Call it inuition.]

The home, which is almost across the street, is a large apartment. The magical wards and suchlike I've come to expect are absent, and Lancer sighs. "Dinner, soon." she says, walking into the kitchen.

>>18942950
So, this servant can get enough wealth to afford things. Unless the kid was abandoned inside this large apartment.


What are the furnishings and such like? What does the interior look like?

>>18942950
Archer, this kid managed to summon a servant through wanting a mommy or he's lying like a rug, given his house doesn't have wards I'm inclined to think he got involved through sheer accident. He probably doesn't have all that much in the way of magic circuitry.

I'm going to talk to the kid, see what I can learn about him and so on, help Lancer with dinner, learn what you can from her without being obvious, turn on your winning charm.

>>18942950

Pretty sure Lancer's Atalanta. Just saying. So, dinner, and talk strategy. I vote we stay together as much as possible, to deny the other Masters a solitary target.

>>18943077
Strategy and small talk. When we talk to Lancer, we don't ask her about her identity or powers, but what kind of food she likes, what she enjoys. Simple stuff.

>>18943107
LET US DRINK LIKE GREEK HEROES OF OLD

>>18943140

NO. NO. BAD ANON. NO GIVING AWAY ODYSSEUS' IDENTITY!

>>18943192
FINE! LET US DRINK LIKE THE GALLIC HEROES OF OLD!

Discuss how to deal with Rider and his army of bikers. Sucker didn't even try to be cautious killing anyone.

>>18943208

Sounds good. Although slightly OOC, for our cool, reserved heroine. Funny mental image is funny.

>>18943208
LET US DRINK AND SWEAR LIKE A SAILOR. AND SING!

>>18943278
The last time we had a rip roaring good binge lost her a potential servant. The guy could have killed us right there if not for needing us to summon a servant to have the war start officially. Let's avoid getting shit faced for a while shall we?

>>18943339

That and we don't want to look like an irresponsible fucktard.

>>18943339
Fine, but lets still sing.

>>18943140
>>18943208
>>18943278
You fools, this is Fate.
Time for a cooking scene.

>>18943046
Upon second glance, this place is rather upscale - until I notice that it looks... Abandoned? Some simple maintenance hasn't been performed. The doors are creaky, the windows leak.

Maybe... a murder? Someone killed his parents?

I shake my head and join Lancer in cooking. She's doing a bit of a feast - A cured ham, roasted apples (golden delicious), and a lot of other foods. I'm... not the best cook, but I try to help.

Lancer tells me she's never really had much chance to cook in a kitchen much. She's much better at a campfire. She likes open fields and forests, and admits that this location is far from ideal. Still, she is happy to at least be able to fight.

Archer joins in with some comments about the fish and seafood, rounding out the meal helpfully. We sit and eat well for the first time in a long time. Her cooking is excellent, and her mannerisms are elegant and...

Well. There's that feeling again. I shake it away and focus on the delicious meal.

>>18943384
I've got a bad feeling about where this is going.....

>>18943369
I can't wait for the mana transfer....


Wait....Does Lancer have mana transfers with David?

>>18943384
>Well. There's that feeling again. I shake it away and focus on the delicious meal.
>Feeling again
Do we have the hots for both Odie AND Lancer? What kind of feeling IS it?

>>18943369
This one knows what's up. Help out Lancer with getting the meal ready. Have Big O talk to her master a bit to see if he can get any clues as to her identity. As for ourselves engage in some small talk and see how much stock Lancer puts into this alliance.

>>18943140
>>18943208
>>18943260
>>18943278

Did you people really forget what happaned the last time we got drunk as fuck?

On a sidenote, I imagine our Master as a Fusion between Bazett and Ayaka.

>Reading this thread

>Kicking a kid into a cauldron of blood, killing his dad in the process

>Fighting a knight on a motorcycle

>driving a car onto a boat

>mfw

I love you, /tg/

>>18943427
Ah sorry bout that. Little slow on the draw. Could someone remind me what 'That feeling' is? I can't recall it's context.

>>18943384
Ok, I'm pretty sure of it by now, this bitch has mind effecting trust powers or something like that.

Given your mention of golden apples, pig meat, and being used to forests I'm guessing Atalanta currently.

>>18943464
If its the same one as before, our master got it when she looked at Odie for the first time. Then she asked about mana transfers.

>>18943384

Definitely Atalanta. No question at all.

>>18943384
D'aawwwwww! This is so heartwarming. And the only thing I keep thinking about is if our food is poisoned.

The food tastes excellent, and -

>>18943426
...

Look. Listen here. We're dealing with heroic spirits here. The very tip top of humanity ever had, in every way. It'd be weird NOT to be attracted to them. I can't help it!

[I spoke with the child. Seems he lost his parents. Something violent. Said a 'bad man' did it. Police wouldn't listen. He stayed here.]

A-anyway, it's my own business where my attraction falls, anyway.

>>18943523
I blink, as the information lines up.

It's true.

I can /feel/ it. That sensation of 'Aha!'.

But... I shouldn't abuse it. I've made an ally, and I've done enough terrible things today. Killing someone barely older than a toddler and his 'mother'...

I can't.

Holy shit. Did Caster kill his parents?

>>18943755
Honestly, he's a kid. He's not gonna betray us, he's five. He doesn't know what betrayal actually is yet. Lets just use this temporary alliance until everyone else is dead, then put him down gently.

However, we're gonna have to kill him eventually. The least we can do is make sure he dies quickly and painlessly.

>>18943834
>we're gonna have to kill him

What?
No we don't, you're just a monster.

We will have to kill Lancer unfortunately. Unless we use the wish to make her and Odysseus real. Then we could live as a big happy family.

Maybe just Lancer though, I doubt Odysseus would want that.

>>18943755
Alright we get it. Enjoy yourself for now. Just stay on guard.

When the time comes if you aren't up to the easy way we'll just have to rely on Big O to handle lancer. No shame in that.

>>18943755

We're not asking you to, Eliza. That's why we suggested this alliance - so you hopefully wouldn't have to fight him. Also, can we use the fact that we know Atalanta's identity to gain her trust further?

But first, TELL ARCHER WHO SHE IS.

>>18943850
Holy Grail War, bro. There are no fuzzy cuddles in that name. Either he dies, or we die, no other outcome.

>Win the Grail War
>Be the kids mother anyways

>>18943882

...Or Atalanta dies, or Odysseus dies.

Does anyone else imagine Lancer sounding like this?

>>18943755
>A-anyway, it's my own business where my attraction falls, anyway.

If we, as a familiar, have extremities capable of that feat, we should probably facepalm now. Hard.

>But... I shouldn't abuse it. I've made an ally, and I've done enough terrible things today. Killing someone barely older than a toddler and his 'mother'...

And there goes our smoothness out of the window.

>>18943882
Did you not read Fate/Stay Night?

Holy shit one of the endings is Shirou, Rin, Sakura, AND Rider all living together.

>>18943902
I do know damn

>>18943880
The man has a better head for tactics and subtlety than us it's true. Get his input.

>>18943919
Now*
Damn i am way to tired for proper English.

>>18943891

Holy shit, that could work! Like, that could actually work! Given her description and all, that is.

>>18943964
FUCK I've read both the threads and I still feel like I'm missing a lot.

>>18943971

Wasn't in the thread

>>18943986
Goddammit.

>>18943964
It may. For now though let's keep those maternal instincts well in check. Horrible shit is bound to happen in this war and we can't afford to get to attached to another magus that we only just met. Even if he doesn't betray us and he's on the level that means he's a prime hostage bait or a target for Caster and mind control fuckery.

Fuck, yes. We killed Assassin's Master, fought Rider to a standstill, and are now having the obligatory Fate cooking scene. ME GUSTA!

>>18943880
Someone else will probably gank her, with any 'luck' Though I agree that if we _must_ resort to fighting, we do so honroably Servant-to-Servant, and (if possible) we aim for >>18943891
We adopt a new magus-heir!

>>18943905
Eh, we're having an alliance with one of the most seemingly trustworthy folks we've encountered thus far. Let's try to relax as much as we can. (Oh, and fuck up any 'bad men' who try ganking us)

Let's try some tidle talk with Lancer for how-tos for cooking

>>18943902
What? How? Lancer is a girl.

Anyway. Do I have to remind you guys that we just formed a Team with a Lancer. A LANCER! Of all things. This is going to end horrible. Look, Happy Ends in the Nasuverse are rare as fuck and Lancer's are somewhat of a Antithesis to a happy ending.

Eithter the child dies, Atalante dies, or we die because we have to save their asses. So please guys, don't get attached to them.

>>18943834
This. While we probably won't have to kill the kid, killing Lancer or watching Lancer get killed is pretty much guaranted.

>>18944025

I'm just saying we may not have to off the kid in the end. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>18944055
Fuck me, I meant Archer.

Wow that was stupid.

>>18944067
We are in agreement there. In fact I support pursuing routes to actively avoid killing him. Just stating that in our role as familiar/adviser we need to keep our minds on maximizing our master's condition and mental state so she is able to deal with what comes at her.

>>18944148

Naturally. And having her loaded down with child-murder guilt wouldn't exactly be conducive to winning.

Looking at the base Lancer perimeters:
Str: B End: C Agi: A Man: D Luk: E(lol)
With Atalanta's Beast of Divine Punishment and crazy speed boosts, against Archer it might just be an equal fight, assuming KoLT's rank is in the gutter by then.

>>18944039
>we do so honroably Servant-to-Servant, and (if possible) we aim for

No, we don't, you dumbass. We blast his brains out if it's an easier way to defeat him and Lancer. Goddamit. What is wrong with you people? One cooking-scene later and now everyone want's to adopt a kid we don't know shit about and his Pseudo-Mother, a Lancer at that.

Our master is supposed to be a professional.

No goddamn wishy-washy approaches.
No getting attached to the kid and his servant
And most importantly: No falling in love with Big O. No. Just no.

>>18944067
Agreed. We may be able to fight honorably and shit between these Odysseus and Atlanta, AFTER the other enemy servants are dead. then, whoever wins, they get their wish and we can go home civilly. We have no wish ourselves, remember.


Question, OP: do ALL Servants need to be dead to activate the Grail? Would we know this? Saw F/Z this week, and was kind of shocked/horrified to hear about Tokiomi's plans for the war (and why he didn't want to blow that last command seal.

Do we have to nerf the Big O in order to win our wish?

>>18944196

Look at her stats, mate. She's not gonna have E LUK. At worst D.

>>18944196
Hopefully it won't be down that low, that'll be a tough fight, we have the advantage of actually having prana available while the kid might not, and given her luck we can bring her down to Big O's level with magic.

Together our luck will be so bad that it might circle around back to good, that's how it works right?

We should be good to them, kind and all that but never forget that in the end we'll have to defeat them.

The meal passes without event. Archer commends Lancer's cooking, and she replies that he made sure that the fish was good. David asks for thirds before we finish and put the food away. She stretches as we finish cleaning up.

"Alright. Want to seperate the rooms by master and servant, or by gender?" she asks. "There's only one bed each, but at least they're pretty big."

"Er..."

"And do you want the first bath, or should I?"

"Uh..."

Oh, I was not prepared for this.

>>18944282
GENDER

GENDER GENDER GENDER WE ARE NOT SLEEPING WITH BIG O

>>18944253
Her Apocrypha stats assume she's an Archer class, so she might get bumped down. Those are just base stats, so it's EGO's call.

>>18944297
I agree with this. Plus it gives a bit of deterrence should they try anything. Mutually assured destruction as far as masters are concerned.

Obviously she can have the first bath. Its her house.

>>18944255
This. We play to win, but don't be dicks about it if we can help it.

Knowing our luck (ha ha), someone else is gonna gank us instead

In the mean time, Meals & Informing Odysseus of lancer's identity

>>18944282

Lancer gets first bath. And separate by gender, please to God. No J-J-JAM IT IN.

>>18944282
>mfw

>>18944324

Pic made me smile, man. Thanks for that.

>>18944282
Switch by gender.

Is there actually enough hot water for us each to take our own bath Lancer, I could join you if that would ensure we both get piping hot baths.

>>18944378
Oh god what the fuck no don't do that to my dick I just got done with Corruption of Champions

>>18944297
This. Plus, being able to scope out Atlanta more personally might be interesting.

Also, bath first. We've had a long, violence-filled day. We've relaxed over a good meal, why not top it off with a soothing bath?

>>18944378

HHNNNNNNNNG

>>18944378
"WAH!"
"WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO IN THIS BATH" Splosh!

>>18944433

I'm okay with this.

I wonder as a familiar that doesn't have any physical form to speak of... can we leer? If so we should totally have a completely perv filled expression explode into her mind at the thought of her and Lancer bathing together. That should work to ensure it doesn't happen.

>>18944282
By Gender.
[spoiler] ElizaXLancer Yuri Scene Inc! [/spoiler}

>>18944473

Ever read the Dresden Files? We're Bob the fucking Skull. This shit is what we LIVE for.

>>18944473
Hey, Eliza. Can you see this? If so, please describe it.

I see a waifu ending coming up!

>>18944509
We need to find a werewolf dnd computer geek to add to our collection then...

>>18944509
we need to make the boring potion from Fool Moon then, the ingrediant list is to good to pass up.

>>18944473
>>18944509
PRA-NA TRAS-FER! PRA-NA TRAS-FER!

Intimate talks with Atlanta might yield some interesting stories, intel or info as well as fodder for your horny little familiar, Master. It couldn't hurt.

As well, introspection on MAster's own past might be interesting for us to ruminate upon

>>18944574

>mfw Lancer uses her lance as a giant strapon

>>18944574
>>18944282
>>18944466
>>18944475

That reminds me. We never asked our Master if she's still a virgin.

EGO, as a fellow Quest runner, I hope you're as disappointed and unsurprised as I was when everyone went straight to the gutter.

>>18944574
>>18944635
No, bad tripfags, BAD. This can only end in a bittersweet way, and we'll make it as great as we can.

Well you heard them Eliza. I tried I did. Go ahead, indulge in a little skinship with our new ally, we won't ask awkward questions, promise.

>>18944649
>>18944635
but whatever you do you had better do it quick before things get out of hand in here...

>firm consocop
don't you start too captcha!

>>18944282

In all seriousness, let Lancer have the bath first, out of respect. No reason to turn everything sexual. We don't want to get too attached.

>>18944672
The last scene was asking for it and you know it!

*Ahem*. Prana transfer can only really happen between paired magus and servant. And besides, I'm not...

Well, alright, I'm not a lesbian, I'm bisexual. I think. Not that it matters. Especially not in this case. I mean, it's not like I like Lancer so suddenly. Not enough to do 'that' with. And really, having you guys in my head nadgering about this and that and this other thing and about how I'm supposed to be totally ruthless for a wish that I'm not even sure what I want from, And really it's not-

"Are you alright?" Lancer asks, leaning close.

"I'm fine. Are you sure we have enough hot water for both of us?" I ask, "The place is kinda old." oh god what am I sayi-

>>18944649
God damnit, familiar, if-

"Well, I suppose not. We should bathe together."

I'm left speechless as she walks past me, taking my hand. I look back to Archer helplessly, who is munching on a biscuit and grinning as he waves me off.

So help me god if you guys don't keep on the straight and narrow through this I will shut you the hell off until I'm in bed.


"Could you help with these fastenings?" She asks, pointing to the center of her back.


Aaaaaa okay what am I supposed to ask about
(( >>18944672
>Implying I didn't anticipate this right away ))

>>18944672
Elizabeth's fault for giving us her sexual preference to mull over. She made us to think about stuff for her, and she introduced her bicuriosity to us.

>"Well, I suppose not. We should bathe together."

EGO YOU KNOW NOT WHAT YOU TEMPT FROM US

>>18944649
Hey, I;m not advocating hooking up as anything beyond a lewd joke.

I seriously think emotional intimacy (feigned or real) mgith be useful, though. Being able to bilk into from Atlanta seems to be the way to go.

I also want o know more about our Master's personal history. While sharing this with Atlanta seems dumb, some of the best thinking goes on in the bath, IMO. Relax and ruminate. Plan our next move (and do that with regards to the Grail, NOT Atlanta)

>>18944718
SO LANCER DO YOU LIKE SEATTLE HMMMMMMMMM

>>18944718
Bring up the subject of her cooking. She said she wasn't used to using a kitchen but she did very well. Try to get an idea of what kind of battles she participated in that she was out in the wilderness so often. Other than that... girl talk?

>>18944718

HAHAHAHAHAHA

No, really. Get us outta this mess, Liz. We can't afford this kind of distraction.

>>18944718
Eliza, you're the one who is attracted to her, we're just helping you along.

What to talk about, this one is difficult, personal questions are kind of iffy given the whole situation we're in.

Start by unbuckling her. Talk about cooking, how she's liked Seattle so far, maybe ask about how she seems to like forests and that Seattle is known for having lovely forests.

>>18944649
be helpful, make small talk, try not to get so embarresed over what you say that sticking a shoe in your mouth is a good idea. i never got that phrase anyway, woudnt suddenly eating a shoe just lead to more questions and potential embarrasment?

>>18944718
Help Lancer get undressed, be courteous, be thoughtful. use the bath to CONTEMPLATE, not SCHLICK.

Be CLASSY, dammit.

I'm curious, what does Eliza look like?

>>18944809

Seconded...mostly. Although I may regret the lack of beargirl lesbian shlick.

>>18944774
The die is cast Cu. We may as well help Liz as best we are able.

I think calming talk about either her history or the other participants of the war would be best. Failing that... try seeing how she's adjusting to her new environment and inquire as to the means in which she is able to provide for David.

In seriousness if you want tips on things to ask as far as relationship advice I'll give you the best piece of advice we can offer. Don't listen to what we have to say on the matters of relationships. We suck at it. Seriously.

>>18944718
>>18944718
>God damnit, familiar, if-

Oooooh! So our master IS indeed a virgin.

WAIT A SECOND!

NO, WAIT A SECOND GUYS!

I JUST HAD AN IDEA GUYS, WHAT IF...

GUYS! GUYS! ARE YOU STILL WITH ME?!

OKAY, NOW. YOU READY GUYS?!

WHAT IF IT TURNS OUT THAT OUR MASTER IS, IN FACT, A WIZARD?

>>18944718

Ask her which one she thinks is the dreamiest, Saber, Archer or Rider.

>>18944809
I'm with this, gotta play it safe here.

>>18944865
>>18944863

>>18944809
Excellent plan. It exposes us to both her nude body up close and makes us seem genteel and polite. Elizabeth, limber thy fingers and loosen thy tongue. It is time to act a lady.

>>18944897
...

yep. We're gonna get put in time out till Liz goes to bed.Good luck, enjoy your peace of mind master.

We need a nickname for her. Atalantia is a mouthful.

>>18945064
Lantia?
Any more than that and you lose the flow of the word.

EGO? EGO! EEEEEEEGOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>Bath with sexy woman
>Thread explodes

Oh /tg/.

"Atalanta" isn't that difficult, is it? I mean, it's four syllables, no longer than "Elizabeth" to pronounce.

>>18945147

Lost my damn pic

>>18944816
I guess you wouldn't know - your information is mostly parsed in text, if I remember correctly. I'm lanky. Thin. A lot of guys would flatter me by calling me 'slender', but I'm not. I'm skinny as hell. Pretty much flat. A lot of people say my face looks half-dead, emotionless and blank. My hair is kept short, straight, and it's platinum blonde. And I prefer suits and other masculine outfits.

I sigh as I unbuckle the skirt, and Atalanta, er, Lancer lets it fall - And I shut the door, finally realizing it's been open this whole time.

"So... Uhm." I shake my head and take another breath as she starts the bath water. "I've heard there's beautiful forests outside of the city. It's the evergreen state, after all. And... for someone unused to kitchens, you're a good cook."

"It's the basics." she says, "You just have to understand how meat cooks, things like that. Temperatures. It's instinct, not skill." she elaborates as she slips off those high boots. "And... That's good news. I might be able to move camp there. I fight much, much better in a natural location."

Aaand she's pulling down the zipper on the back of her top.
"A-a-anyway. Have things been harsh for you, so far? Any hard fights?"

"Not really. I prefer to watch and learn before I fight. But Saber scares me. You might not be able to sense it, but he's... strong."

"Strong how?" I ask, finally deciding to kick off my shoes and socks, then my pants. Gotta stay calm... "And how strong?"

"Have you ever shaken hands with someone who does a lot of manual labor? Noticed that strength just behind the skin? It's like that, except I can /feel/ it. It's... terrifying." And out they come as she pulls her top over her head, perky hand-

>>18945171

Mmf. Anyway.

"Do you have any guesses as to who he is?"

"He's too boistrous to be an arturian knight or one of Charlemagne's men." she comments. :are you planning on bathing in your clothes?" she asks, finally stepping out of her underwear, turning off the water.

"Er." I manage, before she sighs and steps over.

"So bashful." she mutters, undoing my top, "You had to realize it was all coming off, right?"

"Well, I..."

"Well, what?" she asks as she pushes my jacket from my shoulders, then my shirt. "Look, we're both girls here. You don't have to be embarrassed." she says, pushing down my panties at last, "Now, in!" she pushes me and I stumble, falling into the bath with a splash, sliding in beside me gracefully.

Aaaaaaaaaugh, I can't think!

LET THE SEA WILDLIFE METAPHORS BEGIN

If I don't hear fingers compared to a kraken's tentacles I will be very disappointed Ego

>>18945178

Hah. Oh, 'Lanta.

I'm thinking Finn McCool for Saber. Just saying.

>>18945178
Enjoy the bath, try not to be too envious of her.

Perhaps this Saber's an Irish one, lots of those, fits with the blond hair which rules out a number of possibilities. Also his mana drain was much larger than everyone elses, the Einzberns probably grabbed a very legendary hero who they're pumping with prana. It's not going to be a pleasant fight when it comes down to it.

Let's see if we can figure out Atalanta's motivation for seeking the Grail (as if we didn't know hurr). Also, would we gain anything by revealing that we know who she is?

>>18945178
It is either Gilgamesh, or Don Quixote. Talking about his windmills and shit.

>>18945326
Hard to say. We may, but that's a long shot. More likely she'll be more wary of us if we figured out who she is without even seeing her noble phantasm.

And Eliza just calm down and enjoy the bath. If both you and Big O thinks it wise you may want to offer to help Lancer and the kid find a place that isn't so... abandoned. Ask what her hobbies are or if you want to be all business see which servant she thinks would be the best one to target next. You may want to try and convince her to help kill rider off first to get that debuff off of Archer's trump card.

>>18945349
I think Rider might be Don.

>>18945443
Nah, I don't think so. He wasn't known for two swords and he wasn't a leader of men. It doesn't really feel right.

>>18945426

Do we even HAVE a debuff? 'Cuz nobody mentioned it but that anon earlier.

But yeah. Tactics time. And keep your hands to yourself, Liz!

>>18945463
Everytime someone figures out Big O''s noble Phantasm, the fact that despite registering as an Archer, he's effectively a Sabre, it loses a rank, it was EX, but went down to A when we figured it out.

>>18945494

I know. But that's the only one so far, as far as I know.

>>18945506
He used it on Rider so that's probably at least 2 who know of it or even 3 depending on what Rider tells his master. We can just have Eliza check his stats to see what it's current rank is though.

>>18945506
Oh, sorry didn't see your trip there, thought you might be someone who might of forgotten or missed that bit. And as far as I know, we're the only one's who have figured it out, so it should be only one rank down. I doubt rider figured it out just from one quick fight.

>>18945538
We did use it on Rider, but the fight lasted 5 seconds before he got called out of there, I don't think he worked out Prince of Lies.

"An Irishman, you think?" I ask.

"Possibly." she says. "But wherever he's from..."

"Don't worry. Archer is strong." I find myself saying. "Things will be okay. Anywa-heee!" She started washing my back, gentle fingers and a soft sponge. "A-anyway! I think we should move to my own base. It's more mobile and safe. And there's an island I still need to check out." After all, only Assassin and his master knew of it. I might be able to go back. "I'm worried about Saber, too, but more pressing is Rider. He's too fast."

"Fast? I can do fast." she says, pressing closer. Aigh, I can feel them. "What about Archer?"

"He can hold his own, for the most part. I think if we travel separately we'd have better chances. He'd have to split his forces, and he's already wasted at least one command spell."

"Are you sure?"

"Not entirely. But... He just vanished on us. Mid-fight."

"Going spirit midfight can leave you vulnerable, unless you have a skill for it." she says, frowning. "Or a command spell was used."

"Exactly, and he traveled so fast to us!"

"Mmmn. ...Tell me. What exactly was your intent on being here with me?"

"!" I jump a little. "I..."

>>18945550

My thoughts exactly. Biker Dude burned a Command Seal and hauled his armored ass outta there too fast for him to realize what was going on. Stands to reason he shouldn't know.

>>18945573
TO TAKE A BATH, OF COURSE
AFTER ALL IT HAS BEEN A LONG DAY HASN'T IT ATLAN- UH I MEAN LANCER

YES A LONG DAY IT HAS BEEN INDEED

>>18945573

I assure you, madame, my intentions are purely honorable.

And stop trying to distract me with your boobs, or so help me I will put my fingers to use and give us BOTH something else to think about!

>>18945220
Thre can't be any Nasuverse-Sexscene without pic related!

>>18945573
Partially to prove that I trust you, partially because I detest cold baths, and because you're incredibly attractive, I mean have you seen your breasts, they're amazing.

>>18945573
"I thought it was a good idea to leave an ancient Greek and a prepubescent boy alone together in the same room for the night."

Wait, no, don't say that. We can't admit that Archer's Greek.

>>18945573
Squeeze her breasts two times while saying "Honk! Honk!".

>>18945644

Delicious Berserker irony.

>>18945740
Oh god, this.
It's too funny not to do, and besides, what's the worst that could happen?

>>18945657
"I wanted to show I trust you. And I hate cold baths. And you're beautiful." I add, instantly covering my mouth. "No, I mean, I, Uh, er - " She pushes a finger against my lips and laughs.

"I understand. I have that effect on people." she says gently. "Don't worry about it. You're not half bad yourself."

"what"

"No, seriously. You're very smooth." she says, one hand on my arm.

"I, guh, But. You can't be serious."

"I am!"

"But you're so... and I'm so..."

"Differences are what make us beautiful." she says, smiling. "And you're very different."

My jaw moves but nothing comes out. She begins to move closer, and I lift my arms to stop her -

"... You could have asked."

"S-sorry!"

"My, but you're a pile of nerves, aren't you?"

AUGH

>>18945801
TIME FOR BOOB HONKING

COME ON ELIZA YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO

>>18945801

Aw, hell. GO FOR IT. JUST FUCKING GO FOR IT. I GIVE UP. YOU WANT IT. SHE WANTS IT. I, BOB THE SKULL, DEMAND A RIDEALONG.

...Or you could just imply shlicking and go to Tiger Dojo and finish the night here.

>fingerbanging a servant in the bath
>after she says she "has that effect on people"
>implying this isn't a terrible idea
>implying you don't want to
>implying we don't want to
>implying