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    633 KB Zanzia Quest Pt 4 Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/08/12(Tue)15:33 No.19026172  
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)15:35 No.19026196
    Oh yes indeed.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)15:43 No.19026257
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    Fuck Yeah Zanzia!
    I've been waiting since last week for this.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)15:44 No.19026267
    Heck yeah. Lets get an update on what happened last time.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)15:45 No.19026280
    Sorry to be annoying, but could I get a lowdown on this?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)15:50 No.19026341
    Nation: Republic of Zanzi
    Information: Free Religion! Republic!
    Resources: Average Resources. Specific to come soon.
    Location: West Africa. To the west is the Ivory Coast, to the east is Ghana.
    Political Ties: Russia is a close friend - when they remember we exist... China has sold/loaned equipment to us before.
    Era: Near Future / Modern. Late 2012.

    Leader: President Negasso Garawa. Also known as "Xavier" - Elected President For Life.
    Race: Black Male
    History: Graduated from Moscow University with a business major. Has contacts within the Russian government.

    Current Situation:
    Rebels had taken advantage of the President and his cabinet being in a coma from a plane crash, and successfully lead a revolution. The legitimate government of Zanzia was pushed back to its last stronghold, the capital of Port Liberty, before the UN stepped in and enforced a ceasefire.
    They have set up a DMZ, and enforce a ceasefire between the rebels and government troops.

    We have regrouped our military, recruited more troops, strengthened our economy, moved troops into position, and are ready to bait the rebels into breaking the ceasefire so that we can launch a counter-offensive with the moral high ground.
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)15:50 No.19026343

    (Reposting ideas from last thread in case GL didn't read)

    >A second Fulcrum has been sent but Russia will not send weapons to arm it.

    Fantastic! Can we get some HARMs, thermobaric rocket pods, laser and dumb bombs, ATGMs, and cannon pods for it from any of its operator states? Maybe India?

    - If this was the rebels, make sure to lambast them as much as possible for violating the DMZ, and the civilian casualties. Push for the DMZ to be dissolved so we can retake our country from those monsters.

    -Economy - Is is possible to issue tax incentives for private ventures to allow for economic growth, or have we done all we can?

    -Media Warfare - Good, continue with the above angles as well is possible. See if we can arrange interviews with surviving civilians. (If those civilians are willing)

    -SeaCord - Then there's probably a Burke on it's way with DEVGRU

    -Black Superman - As much as I'd like him to do it, call him and tell him it's better to let other nations take care of it. We don't want to risk anything happening, as unlikely as it is. (We still gave him a badge and a cell phone in this one, right?)
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)15:53 No.19026369
    In addition, we have intelligence assets deep in rebel territory. The rebels recently received a shipment of 20 tanks.
    Can our operatives sabotage the tanks before we launch our counter-offensive?
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)15:57 No.19026414

    I was under the impression the intel we got was from surrendering defectors who fled through the DMZ, not actual spies.

    I favor an airstrike from our Fulcrums and Fishbeds. The Fulcrums can lead with some HARMs in case of SAMs, and ATGMs/thermobaric bombs, with the fishbeds each hauling a pair of 1000lb bombs.

    It should cripple those tanks good.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:01 No.19026456
    >I was under the impression the intel we got was from surrendering defectors who fled through the DMZ, not actual spies.
    I was under the impression that the information was coming from the operatives that we had originally sent into Tropicgrad to sneak machined parts and supplies out back to us.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/08/12(Tue)16:04 No.19026489
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    -Fire Fight news has hit international media, a few major political groups condemn the rebels for supporting terrorist attacks. Though some organizations blame us for failing to protect our citizens properly.

    -SeaCord vessel incident still is under way. The French Frigate La Fayette has entered the region but is keeping it's distance.

    -Black Superman is now missing at sea...

    -US and UN has asked us not get involved with SeaCord hostages.

    -North Zanzia claims we have been funding terrorists! Footage from North Zanzia shows men with our flag as arm-bands, executing civilians violently. Intel shows one of those "civilians" was an operative for us, who was directly involved in the tank espionage.

    -France believes a government force in the middle east is supplying the rebels through a smuggle route north of us... possibly Iran or Syria.

    -World News: UN Inspector killed in car wreck in Iran. (IRL for realsy, happened...)

    -Reports of an unidentified, large cargo plane high over the DMZ during midnight last night has been handed to our intelligence from our DMZ troops. French Foreign Legion troops report no such sighting.

    -India is willing to sell us weapon systems for our jets. We have enough free military to buy for our two fulcrums, but little more.

    -War Train is done entirely. Specs to come soon...pic related, its a real war train from 1990s, Yugoslavian Wars, specifically in Croatia. Ours is similar engine.
    >> Doc 05/08/12(Tue)16:09 No.19026556

    Aviationfag is right. We got the info off civilians.


    >The T-55s have been identified as such by hand-drawn sketches handed off to our people.


    Reading further into the T-55, i actually don't think we need to worry too much.

    >No stabilised gun, can't hit the side of a barn while moving
    >Very light armour
    >Unarmoured internal ammunition capacity

    With only twenty, we might as well purchase some surplus AT weapons to train our infantry with.


    French made, cheap, equivalent to a US M-72 LAW which could reliably penetrate T-55 armour.

    Setup a deal with our french partners, bring in lots.

    Quantity, has a quality of its own, after all.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:14 No.19026608
    Respect the French, US, and UN requests and stay out of the SeaCord situation.

    Begin an investigation to provide evidence that the soldiers shown were not Zanzian Army, but rebels using our flag.
    Do we still have operatives in the area that could sabotage the tanks, or provide eyes on the ground to lead in an airstrike?

    >Iran/Syria supplying weapons to rebels
    Thank France for the intel. Not much we can do about it without hard evidence.

    >unidentified cargo plane
    Heightened patrols, and go over all radar contact reports again. Rebels might have sneaked another terrorist team into our capital.

    >Indian weapons
    Purchase the weapons. Prepare for an airstrike to take out the rebel tanks.
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)16:16 No.19026634

    -Black Superman is now missing at sea...

    -Seacord - We don't plan on interfering, we don't have the means

    -North Zanzia claims - We don't fund terrorists. This is a transparent lie to discredit us and damage our image. (As our army uses a distinct uniform and we comply with the DMZ.)

    -France intel - Well, we can't do shit right now

    -Cargo Plane - Dollars to doughnuts this was western SF running recon to see who is the worst.

    -India - Buy up some ordnance, make sure the dumb bombs and AtA missiles are also compatible with our fishbeds. Make sure we get a good supply of cannon ammo too.

    We need to figure out how to prove that the NZ forces staged that execution video, and get moving on putting them down hard.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:17 No.19026644
    >Aviationfag is right. We got the info off civilians.
    The INITIAL information was from sympathetic civilians.
    But we had our operatives follow up on that and begin actively checking on the tanks.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:20 No.19026683
    >We need to figure out how to prove that the NZ forces staged that execution video, and get moving on putting them down hard.
    We could bring up the fact that they're not in uniform.
    If we had a more comprehensive national registry and database, we could get the identities of the "soldiers" to show that they're rebels, and not Zanzia Army.
    Maybe we can still do that; attempt to find the identities of the terrorists to show that they're linked with the rebels.
    >> Doc 05/08/12(Tue)16:24 No.19026733

    >SeaCord, Black Superman

    Agree to stay out of it. Not sure if we should tell them about Black Superman... Fella might actually pull it off.

    >False Flag Op

    GL, do our troops have a standardised uniform at this point? How do we ID our troops? If we have a standardised uniform, point out that they're not in uniform, a disorganised rabal of gunmen making use of a terrible situation. If not, show how our troops clearly identify themselves as proper combatants in accordance with the geneva conventions.

    >Reports of large cargo plane

    Pass on the info to the FFL, any photos or radar recordings we have. It might turn up again.


    What can they offer us at what price?

    Also, see if the French government is willing to OK a sale of obsolete AT weaponry like their locally-made SARPAC.

    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:33 No.19026838
    Guys, we can't forget about the artillery position that the rebels are building at the northern end of the DMZ.
    We need to be prepared to sweep in there and either capture those guns or destroy them.
    >> New Canadian Empire !eXhzr7Qj3. 05/08/12(Tue)16:41 No.19026959
    Do the enemy have FAGOTS?

    Because I want to be able to shout.

    >> War Train Specs Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/08/12(Tue)16:55 No.19027142
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    F40PH Engine [Sold to prior regime leader when a business in States went under. Yes. I had to use an F40PH...]
    -80-130mm Armor, makeshift, pulled from scrapped vehicles.
    -A 10 foot armored "cow catcher"

    1 Artillery Combat Car
    -2x 120mm Mortars
    -1x Dual UB-32 w/ S-5 Rocket Launcher (Libyan Rebel Technicals for ground-use reference. Intended for Hinds, Fishbeds, etc.)

    8 Combat Cars
    -30mm to 80mm makeshift armor.
    -2x ZU-23-2 (Front, Back)
    -1x 73 mm 2A28 Grom Cannon w/ Turret (BMP-1)

    12 APC Cars (Firing Slats for infantry to use.) w/ 40mm makeshift armor.

    4 Armored Vehicle Transport Cars (Capable of holding 2 BMPs a piece, with free-turret use these are combat capable.)

    As there are no tunnels, theoretically "platforms" could be added to the engine as well for RPK LMG gunners, or even RPG positions.

    If we take another engine from our now useless civilian rail line (as we only have one city) - perhaps more could be added.
    The creator, Doctor Leonid Davoi, wishes permission to access more rocket UB-32 pods to mount on the front of the vehicle, in a set-arch. Or a forward firing cannon. He says if the left-side of the cabin is cut, a tank cannon could be added.

    One of your advisers says the train is on budget, but the commanding staff think of this as over-kill as it is....though it is a rather impressive weapon.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)16:57 No.19027185
    >wishes permission to access more rocket UB-32 pods to mount on the front of the vehicle, in a set-arch
    We are about to purchase more rocket pods and other such weapons from India, and since the train is on budget, he has authorization to attach the rockets.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/08/12(Tue)17:20 No.19027489
    -India offers us cheap prices and will ship ASAP.

    -Piracy Incident has ended abruptly with unknown special forces having "dealt" with the situation. The ship is secured and in escort of the French ship.

    -Counter-media showing your troops clearly wear uniforms have quelled the loudest of voices internationally against you.

    -Radar shows that it was possibly a C-130, French Liaison confirms it is possible but reminds us lots of people use C-130s.

    -It seems a Belgium business has taken a liking to Zanzian Icecream's formula and would like to produce it local to Europe. Offering a % of the sales to your national business. Advisers suggest a tax to gain some income off this in addition.

    -A US World-Help organization has requested to send people over to help improve your medical and educational systems using donations from abroad. This is not a US Govt. action.

    -Black Superman's vessel has been found adrift with no one on board. All equipment including rescue gear is stowed properly. No sign of where he went.

    -North Zanzia demands financial aid from South Zanzia.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:24 No.19027536
    >A lot of people use C-130s
    Doesn't that sound familiar
    >Unknown special forces stop pirates
    >Black Superman's boat found
    Now I'm not saying it was Black Superman but...
    >North Zanzia wants financial aid
    These are the rebels correct? They want aid they can have it when they stop trying to depose us.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:28 No.19027594
    >-North Zanzia demands financial aid from South Zanzia.

    Surrender and you can have financial aid.
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)17:32 No.19027666

    -India - BUY IT NOW!

    -Counter-media - Good, continue media war.

    -C-130 - Welp, there's probably either CIA or Delta in country. Nothing we can do, any POOs or SOF grunts in the field would be smart enough not to get shot by us.

    -Belgian Icecream - Add a tax, perhaps sweeten the deal with the offer of additional flavours at a preferred price once we've retaken the country?

    -World-Help - Accept the offer but make sure anyone coming into the country signs waivers proclaiming they know the risks etc. Make sure they stay away from any military installations, or front lines.

    -Black Superman - Well, he'll be back in a week.

    -North Zanzia - Surrender and reintegrate peacefully and we'll help everyone who didn't instigate the fight (The ringleaders, of course, will be tried for treason)
    >> Doc 05/08/12(Tue)17:34 No.19027703


    Accept, I assume this will include training?


    Used by everyone and their dog, just have our troops keep their eyes open


    Look to our homegrown ice cream companies. Agree if it includes a partnership with one of them, so as to give them a foothold on the international market.


    Accept with public thanks, assign escorts with them when they are on the ground to keep them safe. Work with them to ensure their safety.

    >Black Superman

    Where have you gone to this time... Keep his stuff in storage. If he returns, we'll return it to him in exchange for a tale.

    >Financial Aid

    Ask for what will the money be put to, publicly.

    Despite the civil war, the civilians still are OUR people and we will need to look out for them. If they are willing to show what it needs to be spent on, work with the UN peacekeepers to see if we can perform 'missions of mercy' in the North occupied territories.
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)17:38 No.19027767

    We already have pilots.

    The only specific training is things like SEAD or anti-shipping, but that would require us to have enough aircraft to make training specialists worth it. We'd also need to hire someone who has experience. no sense in doing that until we have about 6 Fulcrums and maybe a Fencer pair.

    Until then standard training will have to do.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)17:41 No.19027813
    Seconding these. As for foreign aid, we are proud enough to not beg, but practical enough to not refuse aid simply on pride.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/08/12(Tue)17:49 No.19027931
    Handling new employees, will make new post when I can.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/08/12(Tue)18:16 No.19028295
    -Ice Cream deal goes through even with taxing. One of your local companies "FizelWood" has established its market in Belgium via this deal.

    -Indian weapons will be on the way soon. (Next week thread.)

    -Media War continues. INTL Public Opinion of North Zanzia continues to decline.

    -France suggests we lobby the UN for an intervention force to restore rightful rule to you. It would be a close cut but we would at least see who supports us and just how much we could continue with and get away with.

    -Wamanzi Representatives insist the money will be for citizens who are "owed" the "debt" of government support.

    -Iran has sold four F-4 Phantoms and other unknown equipment to North Zanzia for an unknown sum. The flight will take a long, indirect way to avoid NATO/Allied intervention... this information comes from WikiLeaks. With no confirmation from anyone of legitimacy.

    -Reports of a new, soon to occur terror attack has reached our ears. Our security has been doubled to be sure. It may be against the government, and ourselves.
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)18:21 No.19028358

    -France suggestion - I suppose we could ask the UN for intervention to support our reunification with us in charge, but only if it's to put down the insurrection without negotiations from the treasonous bastards (The people, we will listen to, though)

    -NZ financial aid - Hahahahahaha nope. You start an uprising, commit war crimes, then have the gall to ask for money from the people you say are the monsters?

    -Iranian F4s - Have our pilots look over potential flight routes, if they have any that go over sea, see if France can send an anti-air frigate to intercept.

    -New Terror Attack - Increase security at foreign aid depots as well as infrastructure and factories.
    >> Doc 05/08/12(Tue)18:29 No.19028476

    >UN Petition

    Hold off, for now.

    >Terror attack

    Perform our usual security routines but let it occur. Then when it does, smash down on it hard.

    It's about time we got some leverage out of this.

    Once this attack is concluded, we go to the UN. In light of continued guerrilla attacks on our civilian population centres, continued violence and atrocities like the televised executions in the North, we ask the international community to lend us their strength to bring order and peace back to our land.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:35 No.19028543
    Continue our media assault.

    Go with the French suggestion and see who our allies and enemies are.

    >Financial aid
    We will not negotiate with terrorists. If the civilians require aid, then we will gladly fund UN troops to distribute aid.

    Have our pilots go over the specs of the F-4 and how to fight them.

    >terror attack
    Increase security, warn the FFL and the UN.
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)18:41 No.19028604

    The F-4 is speed without much manuverability.

    Our Fulcrums are generally superior and with a proper war-load of AA-10s and -11s and a properly functioning IRST and/or OST system should be able to down them BVR without the Phantoms even detecting firing. (Delicious BVR Infrared launches, motherfucker!)
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:42 No.19028620

    The frigate in the area does have some limited anti-air capability.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:43 No.19028628
    Go ahead and petition.
    >Financial aid
    Ask France if we could legally do anything to stop this.
    >Terror attack.
    Warn France and UN and make sure everything is secure.
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)18:44 No.19028646

    I was thinking something more along the lines of a Cassard class.

    40 SM-1s should be enough, don't you think?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)18:46 No.19028701

    Gonna take a while for it to get here, unless its in the immediate area, though.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)19:07 No.19029026
    Have our UAVs been able to determine the disposition of the rebel artillery position? Do we have forces in position to take the guns in the openning moments of our attack?
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/08/12(Tue)19:54 No.19029847
    Home from work.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:05 No.19030071
    We seem to be in agreement. What about the northern rebel artillery position.
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/08/12(Tue)20:06 No.19030089
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    -F4 Phantoms are inbound in an over land route that does not pass any "allied" positions other than Arabia, by the time information had passed down it was to late to intercept. Someone in Arabia was paid off and claimed them as "non-iranian" to other sources...

    -UN Petition will happen soon.

    -Our pilots are studying up on F-4 Phantom's capabilities.

    -UN Aid + UN Troops has been denied by NZ. They wanted hard cash it seems...

    -French Frigate is to far out to sea to support any operations at this time.

    -CNN has requested a permanent placement near the DMZ or in our city.
    -NBC has requested passage into NZ to both governments.

    -BBC has arrived without warning to our head quarters for an interview, they are waiting outside the office no-
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-Terror Attack! A bomb has gone off OUTSIDE OUR BUILDING! Security is moving in, there are sounds of gunfire outside the government building.
    >> Doc 05/08/12(Tue)20:11 No.19030170

    >Terror Attack

    It's go time. Draw personal M1911, await our head of security. Gotta leave this to the professionals.

    Approve the request of CNN and NBC, while the attack is going on. Let them know that an attack is ongoing and if they want footage, they should get down immediately.
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)20:12 No.19030205

    Get the BBC into our security envelope, put 2 companies on the ground to crush the rebels, get another to cover our exfil. Hinds will fly CAS if necessary, our Hip will fly distraction (It will not evac, but will move as if it is to draw fire).
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:14 No.19030237

    The implication is that the 'socalled' BBC crew are the terrorist.

    Showing up to do interviews unscheduled is a decidedly unbritish thing to do.
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)20:16 No.19030294

    Actually, it's a common journalist tool, because an unnanounced visit leaves no time to formulate your regular press-conference/set-piece interview bullshit and whatnot.

    Still a dick move, but they aren't the terrorists. BBC reporters aren't the type to be subverted by or work with rebels.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:19 No.19030346
    Get the Hind and reinforcements in here. Prepare to defend ourselves if necessary.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:20 No.19030370
    What if it was just rebels SAYING they were part of the BBC?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:20 No.19030371

    Not if they kidnapped the crew, took their equipment, vehicle and passes.
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)20:24 No.19030452

    Fine, BBC crew gets it's own escort.

    Assume they're who they say they are, but keep an eye on them.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:32 No.19030605
    Tell them the only way we will give them money is if a neutral 3rd party governs and oversees the use of the funds.
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)20:36 No.19030682

    Fuck that.

    They want any sort of aid from us, they surrender and reintegrate peacefully into true Zanzian society, where they will have all the benefits of being a citizen (As long as they weren't a ringleader.)
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/08/12(Tue)20:50 No.19030934
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    -Hind has arrived and is currently providing gun-support only as to not blow us all to hell.

    -Ongoing fire fight has intensified, it seems the terrorists in support of the rebels have a serious force. None have made it past our security. BBC is indoors and, as their truck is outside and intact, reporting live via Sat. to their media in the fire-fight.

    -NBC and CNN have arrived and are watching from affar.

    -FFL has offered to bring in a Puma to air-lift us off the roof if we feel the need, or bring in troops.

    -The terrorist attack is growing into a local block-by-block fight as our reinforcements try to move closer. This seems more like a military attack than just some group of angry citizens.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:54 No.19031001

    ask the BBC crew if they'd like to be airlifted out by the FFL.

    Personally, I think we should attempt to handle this with our forces. Ask if the FFL would be so kind as to be on standby just beyond the combat zone?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:54 No.19031002


    Thank them for their assistance however we'll need to evac our wounded first to the nearest hospital.

    >Fly in troops, deposit, take on wounded soldiers and civilians.

    Unstated is the fact that the rebels might have some AA they're holding back in an attempt to assassinate us if we evac by air.

    Better for us to stick tight, for now.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)20:55 No.19031020
    Accept the French troop assistance. The line must be drawn here, and no further!
    >> Aviationfag 05/08/12(Tue)20:59 No.19031122

    -BBC - Keep them out of the firefight, see if they can be evac'd by the FFL

    -FLL - If their Puma has countermeasures and ECM, get it in for a hot evac of wounded and civilians. Decline troops at this time but ask that they keep some on standby

    -Bring in the second hind, also guns-only for now.

    Are the rebels in the streets on long-ish avenures? If so, a gun run or two from our Fulcrums might take the fight out of them (Assuming we have smoke to mark targets. YES, this will make a mess, but gun-runs tend to be VERY demoralising.)
    >> Grand Leader !2RRlyIA6Zs 05/08/12(Tue)21:10 No.19031283
    Stopping here, will continue next Tuesday.

    Sorry guys, far as I can go, my ability to focus on this tonight disappearing quickly.

    Archiving it.

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