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"Fuckin' magnets. How do they work? I don't believe the scientist's lies..."
-Some Moron who mistook Science for Magic
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The "Magic" Continues

Previous threads may be found here: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=%27Magical%27%20Girl%20Quest
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You are currently being the wrathful pinkette, Minaka Forte. Having been hot on the trail of a man whom you and your best friend Anne believed was a Reputation Spoofer, you and Anne - well, mostly Anne, but you got her non-opensource cocoa! - managed to track him down to the Armstrong University Teaching Hospital. Unfortunately, by the time you had arrived there, he was a corpse, and much worse that bitchy bluenette Reimu was the girl in charge of adjusting him to his temporary life as an infomorph.

To make a long story short, he turned out to be some runtime of the ReaDS AI that runs the planet's reasource distribution, and using quantum wierdness that should barely be possible, he teleported you to an undisclosed location to talk with Daedalus directly. You took Arthur's place at a replica of his round table turne conference center, and the Demi God Like AI told you that she would provide you reasources and facilities for something called 'Operation: Mahou Shoujo."

>Wat Do?
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Great thread, bro.
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>>19894338
laugh, ask for the cameras.

also, ask for our crown.
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>>19894317
FUCK OFF QUEST THREADS
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>>19894338

>'Operation: Mahou Shoujo."

Ask what the hell that is. Fangirl a bit at being in Authur's Chair at the Round Table. Raise eyebrow at Anne's choice.
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>>19894371
this

We need a crown before we're say anything. A nice crown too. If the AI is going to toy with us we might as well live it up.
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>>19894338
"So, what, you need us to fight off some barely known alien threat? You know how ridiculous that sounds?"
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So did we ever reach a decision on what the girls will be wearing cause I want to try drawing some stuff up.
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>>19894521
I'm voting for some kind of clear helm light power armor.
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>>19894544
If we aren't going to do frills, I say a jump suit would be good.
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You lean over to Anne, your hand in front of your face conspiratorially. "Lancelot sat to King Arthur's -right-, soul sister, not his left. Thus the phrase 'right hand man'. You're sitting in Guinevere's spot."

Your friend pinkens a little, but doesn't move from the seat. If there were any gods or buddha, you'd swear to them that you see a very faint, very pleased smile on Anne's face.

Huh.

You can't help but laugh when the AI explains her deal to you. Just who the hell does she think you are? Some sort of chump who'd go all fangirl on the idea of joining an organization even remotely affiliated with Firewall, that oh so -awesome- group of special agents that save humanity from itself and catastrophes foreign and give not a single fuck?

Okay, if that's what she thinks, she's pretty much got your measure. Still, you have to put up a front.

"Okay, okay," you say. "Where's the camera? I mean, da fuq does 'Mahou Shoujo' even mean, anyways?"

The golden-glow hologram frowns. "There is no camera, my child. And I was unfamiliar with the term myself, but the OMNIWIKI refers to it as an ancient genre of televised theater that rised to prominence in the twentieth century anno domini. They concerned tales of young girls granted or otherwise in possession of magical powers - it believe the legends of Takamachi, Homura, and the Cures were originally told in these productions."

"I don't think this is a joke, Forte." Reimu interjects. "My iGlasses aren't reading us at Armstrong anymore."

"Fine!" you say. "If I'm going to be a 'Mahou Shoujo', I demand the crown, sword, and sheath of Arthur Pendragon, to use to smite the enemies of the Britons and all mankind!"

The hologram blinks. "Does this mean you accept?"

>Wat do?
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> all them Yuri vibes.
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>>19894521
I don't recall any objections to >>19887470:
a polished chrome suit of power armor (>>19886394 style) for Minaka
some kind of light power armor, basically nanoweave leather with musclefibers in the middle, in the shape of archer's coat for Reimu
something nanoweave for Anne, maybe pic minus ears, stockings, and headband.
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>>19894584
Crown first, then we'll talk. Seeing this wiki might be nice.
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>>19894603

For now, I'm going to be using BM7 Nono for Minaka, a Touhou for Anne, and Konata's face poorly shooped onto Archer.

If anyone has an exploitable Konataface, that would be immensely helpful.
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>>19894603
Supporting this.
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>>19894603
Hm, yea, I could live with this.

((> Taking off stockings. Every time... every. single. time))
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>>19894648
I will have a look.
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>>19894603
Alright I'm cool with this. And weapons? I think I remember somebody saying something about a shield for Anne which seemed like a cool idea.
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>>19894584
"Wait, what? You mean, really?"
Some incredulous remarks.

When the Daedalus AI actually manifests a crown, do some searching on the OMNIWIKI to confirm what she said.
And talk to Anne about accepting or not.
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>>19894648
BTW, ReaDS, we're going to need something else to geek about once you're gone again. Can you give us something, like strategy or galactic poltics/econ info?
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>>19894794
Anne was basically all sorts of magic via technology, like fire, ice, lighning, sheilds, beams, and so on. As for physical implements, she'd probably have a staff or something.

Minaka has requested a sword (sheath, and crown), so a sword for her. Possibly also a shield.

I think the only suggestion for Reimu was twin shord swords that combine together into a bow.
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"That depends." You say. "Can you actually make any of that, or is this all for some sort of weird infomorph viral video?"

A compiler rises from the table, and begins to go to work. "I hope you don't mind if it's gold circuitry between trasluscent graphene layers. Form follows function, all that jazz." Little sparks fly as the coal is recompiled into a graphene lattice, and the small nugget of gold is embedded bednween the layers, forming the circuitry for what no doubt would be some sort of -smart crown-. "Is this demonstration satisfactory?"

"Either she's going to insane lengths to get this footage," Reimu says - and she is right; gold suddenly became more valuable as a reasource than a shiny toy when it was found to be one of the stablest mediums for qubits - "or this isn't a prank Forte. Or maybe it's a stalker! Imagine, finally finding someone besides that 'sline to bottom for you-"

You leap across the table, through the hologram of the golden lady, and your fist is inches away from breaking Reimu's face when a robotic arm grabs you, pulling you back into your seat.

"Minaka," the hologram sounds rather annoyed. "Calm yourself - they are but words, meaningless wind." She turns to the bluenette. "Reimu, hold your tongue. You can work with them if you try to."

"Fine." You and Reimu speak simultaneously, glaring daggers at each other.

Anne, meanwhile, has buried her head in her arms upon the desk, bright red. "W-we don't..."

>Wat Do?
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>>19894877
Nah, ranged weapon summoning/manifestation. Guns, bows, whatever she wants, she just has to reach out and it's there. Guns for rapid shots, a bow using the draw as a charging mechanism for bigger hits.

The same thing could be done for Minaka, with a melee focus.

Perhaps a bow & hand-and-a-half sword as defaults respectively.
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>danbooru.donmai.us/post/index?tags=mecha_musume
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>>19894954
Spin the crown in our hands, "So, access to phenomenal experimental technology, and all we have to do is fight off an unknown alien horde? Ha! Sure, what the hell."
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>>19894809

Well, there are the religious colonies. Infectees of dogmatic memetic viri which do not have an dogmatically acceptable way to leave the meme (read; most cults, most abramic religions) are quarantined almost like lepers. It's actually kind of horrifying on both ends - the extremists of each meme control the colonies under threat of metaphysical punishment if you do not obey, and the planetborns make militant atheists look accepting of religion.

The only people who don't give a fuck are the libertarians, who live quasi outside the ReaDS (they trade with them, mostly for cultural artifacts to keep them from deciding to off themselves out of boredom). They'll accept you as long as you respect the rights of others not to be part of your meme; which usually means most 'liberal' religious folk live out the Oort Clouds.

It's kind of like what Texas wants to be, but will never be because they put too much importance on belief.

Also:
>BRB soup.
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>>19894954
"Alright, but why us specifically? Couldn't you just get some neckbeards to sign up for this crap?
"And you said we're going to fight? How exactly are we going to do that, and what's the enemy like?"

As Daedalus, can we have one of our probes go closer to the enemy VN's while another probe watches, to see what kind of reaction it gets, and how the enemy nanites respond to attacks?
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>>19894954
Pat Anne on the head and ruffle her hair to calm her down.

Ask why we in specific were chosen for this task and what we know about the enemy.
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>>19894983
Yeah, the idea was inspired by Vanquish.
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>>19894648
I don't know exactly what you mean by exploitable, so I got some pics that seemed easy to copy/paste the head out of.
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if stuff like this was what you were looking for, I can look for more expressions.

If it wasn't, let me know and I'll try again.
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>>19894877
I like the dual wielding-to-bow is a cool idea, so long as the swords aren't cliche katanas.
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>>19895143

Also HOW they propose we fight them. They can't all be as easy to break as Blunette over there.
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You pat Anne on the head in a completely platonic manner that can only be interpretted as even slightly romantic by someone who forgot to take off their yuri glasses. Anne comes out of her armshell with a weak smile, still beat red, and you clap her on the back. Across the table, Reimu smirks in a manner most trollish.

"So we get access to all this experimental tech, as many reasources as we need, so we can fight this horde of alien locusts?" You take a look at the spinning frame of the crown, the nannites working their delicious, magical science to assemble it - almost a quarter of the way through, a hell of a lot faster than your compiler in the dorm. "But why us, specifically? Why not draft the neotenics to exploit the IFF bug?"

The hologram shrugs. "We have insufficient data. We theorize they have a way to determine the difference between a neotenic from actual girls based upon EEG readings, though I emphasize that this is but speculation. Our biggest weakness right now is that we don't have much information regarding this enemy. From the audvid we have been able to capture, their primary method of attack is the employ of some form of Von Neumann machine, which are estimated to be anywhere between 20nm and 3cm in length/width. Locusts are an apt term."

"T-that's one hell of a margin of error." Anne says. You, and more frustratingly Reimu, nod in agreement.
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>>19896042 Field too long

"Our drones have insufficient resolution to get a clear picture at the minimum contact distance of 15 light minutes." The hologram brings up a fuzzy picture of an asteroid, clouds of -something- surrounding it, seeming to eat into it. "This is an image taken of the former Oort station Freedom's Progress, which had left system approximately five kiloseconds prior to the arrival of this swarm. Note the larger blotches among the cloud." It zooms in further, showing shadows that look like they may hold higher concentrations of Von Neumanns. "We believe that these machines can combine with one another, possibly to increase processing power and simulate intelligence. Early speculation included mamallians and true 'gray goo' nanites, the rate of their expansion suggests otherwise, which perhaps explains the relative ineffectivity of our 'blue goo' countermeasures."

"We don't have anything clearer?" You ask. "From the attacks?"

The hologram shakes her head. "No. From what we have been able to determine, the swarm sends a smaller contingent of units ahead of the main swarm, to remove their targets' communications infrastructure. We have assumed that this includes quantum linkage bandwidth, and are operating under the assumption of that is how they communicate to one another."

>Wat Do
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I haven't tried for an anime style in a hell of a long time but here, have this messy scratchy doodle.
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>>19896080
"But come on, you've got fission, fusion, and anti-matter weapons, right? I mean, what are a bunch of girls supposed to do against a nanite swarm that not even a bunch of transhumans could stop?"

The more we hear, the worse it seems to get.

"But there's really no other choice, is there? They're coming here, and like it or not, we're the only ones that have a chance of fighting."
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>>19896147

holycrapholycrap

Dude that just made my day. That pic is awesome, and you should feel awesome.
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>>19896149
Seconding this.

>>19896147
That is awesome.
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>>19894317
Who is this artist? Please, I must know.
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>>19896147
Your picture is good and you should feel good.
>>19896080
Is there any substitution to the EMP in regards to quantum communication? Even if we can't get one out to the asteroid, we could arm Anne with one.
Also, my Yuri glasses are stuck to my face. Should I put a Het or a Yaoi filter over them, or will that make things worse?
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>>19896379
Chris Wheaton, I believe. Here's his site: http://chreaton.blogspot.com/ (I actually got the image off Bing because I don't trust google).

>>19896428
=Omniwiki Faq=

>How da fuq does one pull off EM war against Quantum Connected devices.

When you find out, let us know. You could attempt some quantum weirdness to unpair the particles, but other than that (which would take longer than just blowing up the device), no idea.
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>>19896514
Is our technology advanced enough to reverse causality within, say, a given 10 foot diameter field?
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The opening quote compels me to link this:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/loadingreadyrun/1629-Scientists-Rebuttal-to-ICP
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>>19896514
How much anti-matter can we reasonably make in the time it'd take them to get here?

also, name the major orbital bodies between us and the next nanites.
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>>19896704
Also, alert everyone between the planet and the nanos. In fact, just alert everyone. There's no way this is gonna stay under wraps anyway, and we need to prepare.
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"Minaka, you seem the type to know," Reimu asks, surprisingly polite. "What sort of load out does the typical firewall member carry."

You rub your chin, as you happen to be a bit of an expert at this subject. "Well, let's see. An assault railgun, usually a X-190 bullpup, sometimes multiconfigureable to shotgun and sniper modes. Omnitool with microcompiler and null temperature heat sinks. Small fleet of knife missiles, usually between twenty or thirty. Microfusion grenades and X-340 launcher. Particle cannons, if they're trained in heavy weapons. And three milligrams of magnetically sealed antiprotons just in case."

Reimu nods. "So why don't you send some of Firewall out, madame Daedalus? Surely they'd be better than a lazy phsicist, a girl trying to get through med school, and a 'sline engineer." She brushes a lock of hair out of her face. "Given, you know, all their skills and training."

The holographic woman makes a gestures, and the asteroid was replaced with the far away image of a planet, taken at 30 light minutes out. The atmosphere was clear, save for a small blotch near its south pole. "This is Regulus Prime, approximately forty eight hours ago. We attempted sending a surgical force to contain the swarm near that had begun to form on it's southern continent, maintaining totall network silence." Daedalus closes her 'eyes'. "They were unsuccessful, and at mission time plus one hour and forty seconds, the last surviving member of the team released the magnetic sealant on each package of anti-matter. The following occur at one hour intervals, beginning with the blast."
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The picture changes. First, to one with a bright light near the center of the swarm cloud. Then, the light has faded, and the cloud is thrice its size. It continues for eight more shots, until the swarm is stable, covering the planet's entirety.

"The fireball managed to kill the swarm around it, we believe," Daedalus sighs. "However, we believe that the surviving Von Neumann's simply fed off the released kinetic energy, permitting them to accelerate their spread exponentially. From this case, we have decided that WMDs are not an efficient means of eliminating the threat."

>Wat Do?
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>>19896819

"Alright...now...going with what Bluenette over there said...how are WE going to stop that if Firewall couldn't?"
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>>19896819
matter-antimatter reactions(the useful to us bits) are almost entirely gamma radiation.

Also, in space there's be nothing for them to grow with using that energy.
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>>19896819
And they don't go after little girls? Do we have any idea why this happens?

Have we done further tests on this, do they just ignore us, or if we attack them do they retaliate?
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>>19896819
You're clearly just not using enough WMDs. Of course it's useless if you leave survivors.
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>>19896951
>Also, in space there's be nothing for them to grow with using that energy.
You assume that they can't do energy-matter conversion, which is not an assumption to be made lightly.

>>19896819
"Alright, so WMD's are out, and Firewall gets swarmed immediately. What are we supposed to do? What weapons are we supposed to fight with?"
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>>19897178
if they could do energy-matter conversions, then low orbits around stars would be much more efficient for them then eating planets.

I stand by my point.
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Your eye twitches. The way that the AI is saying it, transhumanity is completely and totally screwed if these things stop fucking around. Anne is quivering in fear, her face a horrified pale. Even Reimu's smug has evaporated - something which usually takes you beating the crap out of her to accomplish. Your hands are even shaking, though you're not sure if it's from fear, or excitement.

These opponents seem more than worthy. And the crown is almost done.

"Just one question," you ask, your voice cracking with anticipation. "If FIREWALL couldn't stop these motherfuckers, how the hell are we?"

"Well for one," the hologram says, "Your primary concern will be preventing them from interrupting the flow of communications. They have us outmatched on that already, the last thing we can afford is becoming even worse. As we said, from what we have observed of their tactics, they wait for their advance units to disable communications before they send the full swarm in." She brings up a picture of a field of ship escape bubbles, the occupants uniformly young females. "These are the survivors of the Regulus Prime evacuation. From what information we have been able to get from them, the 'things' ignored them unless they attempted to attack them, at which point their bubbles were shoved out of the swarm. From this, we have come to the conclusion that the Von Neumann's IFF identifies girls as either 'friendly' or 'non-hostile' automatically, and even in the case of hostility."

>Wat do?
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>>19897221

"I repeat, how are WE supposed to stop them? Just because they won't attack us doesn't mean we can do...anything"
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>>19897221
"Okay, but what are we supposed to fight them with? They're nanites, kinetics aren't exactly good for that.
"And we're supposed to, what, destroy their advance units as they attempt to cut our comm systems? As long as the swarm thinks that the advance scouts are unsuccessful, they won't attack?"
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>>19897204
But that's if they're programmed for the most efficient form of replication.
They're a Von Neumann nanite swarm, they could be a berserker probe programmed to seek out and terminate all intelligence not registering as friendly according to their IFF. Their replication is only a means by which they carry out their function, not their primary function in and of itself.
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>von neumann swarm built by a species of ultra feminazis, programmed to exterminate all male life
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>>19897269
>>19897394

Ah, what part of

>"I plan to provide you with facilities, armaments, training, and resources to defend Harper's Reach from an alien assault force whose IFF seems to flag young girls as 'friend' rather than foe." She pauses. "Note that I am uncertain of the -reason- they are doing it, but the greater ReaDS has advised the tactic under the title 'Operation: Mahou Shoujo.'"

do you two not understand? I mean, that was end of last thread guys. kind of required reading?
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>>19897482
Close, but that wouldn't explain why they have no compunction against killing adult females.
It could just be a bug in their IFF programming.
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>>19897500
No, we know that the girls are the only ones that can do it because they're flagged as non-hostile by the VN IFF.
The question is what weapons exactly are they going to be using?
The Firewall team must have sent SOME information as to what kinds of weapons were effective, right?
Such as, do flamethrowers and plasma weapons work better than lasers and microwave weapons?
Or do kinetic slugthrowers work better for some reason?

That kind of thing.
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>>19897539

This mostly. Just because they won't attack...doesn't mean we have a way to hurt them.
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>>19897539
Oh, okay.

I thought we were rehashing shit that we had already been over. My bad. Thanks for clarifying.
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>>19897539
This is in response to the planning we've doing concerning what weapons to outfit the girls with.
Knowing what weapon types work against the nanite swarm is kind of important for the mental image we've been coming up with.

Do we need to arm them kinetic weaponry? Would staffs that are actually X-Ray laser cannons work better?
Would one-time use plasma grenades with a shaped charge in the form of a card work?

What about EM and plasma shielding; is that even effective against the swarm?

We don't want to spend weeks of in-game time training the girls with weapons that won't be any effective against the VN swarm.
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>>19897472
Hold on. If that's the case (Which we don't know yet) than all we need to do is knock out communication and convince them that the universe is devoid of all non-girl life.
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>>19897504
Because the adult females are already too ingrained in patriarchal society, duh.
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>>19897622
Probably things that either vaporise/destory them (Fire/Antimatter/high energy explosions) or screw with their programming (Hacking/EMP/Quantum unentanglement or disruption)
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Fixed that typo the helpful anon in the last thread pointed out. Threw in the crown because why not.
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"Um, q-question?" Says Anne. "These things seem pretty much invincible. It's good to know that they won't try to kill us, but, ummmmm... is there anything we can do to actually harm them?"

"Yeah." You say. "I might know my martial arts, but I doubt simply getting my punch on will do anything but annoy the bastards."

The woman's face scrunches up. "Hmm. The Firewall team wasn't able to get any data through regarding the swarm's weaknesses. Given their slow rate of growth and their reaction to high energy blasts, I may be able to extrapolate some information on this. Let me connect to the over ReaDS for a moment - a FAQ on the omniwiki would probably be a good idea to get started." The prime fades from light, the projector switching to a generic black screen, simple fonted text over the face.
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=====Omniwiki=====

SO you want to get your murder on against the <Uknown Contact/Replicators>, but you don't know what da fuq to use in your killinating. Well I've got some good news and some bad news, kiddos. The good news is, we have a general idea of can killinate these things. The bad news is we have a general idea of what can killinate these things. None of this is tested, so we don't quite know.

Since <Marty/Regulus Prime Overseer> was an idiot and demanded complete network silence from the team, we know all of jack shit of what those Firewalls did to get their murder on. Except we do know Jack's shit because Jack was a rebel and railgunned a beacon into orbit with his critical infos. Thanks for that Jack, your sacrifice might have saved humanity. Way to be an hero.

We know these fuckers like to swarm. But they're big - real big. Not quite our upper estimates, but a good 2.5 cm by 1 cm - they get their replication on by being their own compiler. The like to pull off the gattai though, and their favorite combination makes them into some pretty huge ass spiders. The real point is that grabbin' your shotgun is a-okay folks! It'll break them into tiny pieces, and halt their compiler functionality, permanently.

But if the shotgun ain't your way to go, we've got some AWESOME NEWS. Suck it, Firewall research - combat barriers ARE the way of the future. Just make them quick, and with great force - keep them sustained too long and BOOM - they'll start nomming up the energy, using it to self repair, and adapt.

Now I know some of yall like your to get your freeze on, and I just have to say thanks to whomever it was who open sourced the ferrous liquid nitrogen cartridgeds. If the shotgun will make them go all explody, then these will make them go all shattery, and freeze them in a block of ice.
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On directed energy weapons, I'd advise against. Anything that relies on low impulse, sustained kinetic force in the terms of 'friggin laser beams', particle cannons (see anti matter exception) or radiation devices are a big 'fuck no'. At best, they won't accomplish much of jack shit, and the things will just stare at you before getting their replication on. At worst, congrats bro, you just accelerated the reproduction rate by a factor of ten, at least. Way to be.

>Continue asking about weapons types?
>Leave the Wiki page.
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>>19898079
Continue asking about weapons:
See anti-matter exception
Possible use of plasma throwers (high-intensity heat)
Known attack vectors and methods
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>>19898047

What program are you using to make that, photoshop, some other editor, or some neat script thingamajig?
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>>19898073
So small arms, break apart the computing clusters, and then mop up the remainders with blue goo?
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>>19898111
>Known attack vectors and methods
By this I mean attack methods used by the Replicators.
Brute strength? Melee attacks? Forming miniature x-ray lasers and combining them?
And what of the non-lethal methods observed?
Nadion particle bolts? Millimeter wave interference guns? Just gently pushing girls aside?
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I think that answers all we need to know about the weapons

What are the tech limits on our armour and what bonuses will we be getting from the various equipment we can give the girls?
Is nano cloth suits inherently better or worse than power armour?
Can we have both or is it a waste of time?
Can we have instant or near instant compiling of weapons? and finally can they have elemental effects replicated by the compilers mid combat?
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>>19898079
"So you're just going to give me Excalibre, and I have to smash them up?"
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>>19898111
Wouldn't high intensity heat if sustained fall under the same issue as lasers and x rays? They could absorb the energy and you are up shit creek

Also quick shields used to augment a strike or crush the machines are viable given that FAQ right?
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>>19898047
Well, we don't know if the crown actually does anything.

May I suggest throwing in each girl's arglasses?

From left to right, they are: iGlasses(+5 to Social, -2 to Tech), Kinect Specs (+2 to Social and Tech), and Google Goggles(+5 to Tech, -2 to Social).
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>>19898186

I think the high intesity heat might be regarding the ones that died in the fireball. IE - you can shoot some flame on it, but you have to shoot it hot enough to damage it's systems.
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>>19898186
for your first, what >>19898216 said is basically right (or how I'ma roll with it).

For your second, I see no reason why not. Go for it!
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>>19898079
It's interesting how they're big, for nanos. Also, The way the omniwiki is written is interesting. Are all entries like that, or was it slapped together by one guy under some stress and so is a tad unorthdox?
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>>19898186
The quick shields could used in a CQC suit for Minaka to make her martial arts training usable.
Also, if she really wants a sword, we can put a shield generator into the sword so that the field activates a microsecond before impact.
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>>19898209
Speaking of which, what are the girls tech and social stats?
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>>19898284

Smarts is tech (sometimes Speed modifies). Smarts is also Social (most times Stubborn modifies).
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>>19898240
So a plasma burst/bolt would be viable, but a sustained flamethrower spray wouldn't.

Or, really, anything that's significantly powerful enough in a single shot.

I think we can work with this.
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>>19898338
>So a plasma burst/bolt would be viable, but a sustained flamethrower spray wouldn't.
No, a sustained plasma flamethrower would work, but it has to be plasma or hotter.
But that results in the problem of dumping enough heat or insulating the user well enough that the heat using the plasma flamethrower won't cook them as well.

It's still a good close-in weapon in case they're about to get swarmed.
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>>19898277
Well I was thinking for cqc or extending the reach of melee weapon, minaka's weapons should destroy the things just fine on their own but shield projection could give them all a backup and in Anne's case a ranged attack
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>>19898398

Yeah. A forceshield blade could extend her reach a fair bit and the speed should keep them from drawing off it.
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>>19898386
And I didn't say plasma flamethrower. Just more conventional levels of flame. Of course, anything that we would implement for use would be of a sufficient threat index to actually work against them.
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>>19898247
I think that's just how some of the routines are
>>19898386
Yeah but if it is sustained too long the machines can use the energy to boost themselves so a quick blast is better
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=====Omniwiki=====

ANTIMATTER EXCEPTION

So you want to get your directed energy on, but also wish to be a credit to your team? Then antimatter is where you need to throw all your shit. Sure, it's expensive to run, but here's the catch: if you're using it in a vaccuum, a second long burst of fire will overwhelm it with radiation damaging the Von Neuman's critical functions (IE - it's internal nanosystems). Use a wide area distribution, though, as narrow stream will only get your kill on for one.

Too bad this shit's expensive, or else we'd have already killinated them all.

GETTING YOUR ARMOR ON

So you want to get your not dying on? Problem with this shit is that the Vonnies like to get their nomming on pretty much anything, which unfortunatel includes our precious graphenes. Fortunately placing an active (NON PASSIVE) blue goo countermasure will keep you from have to replace all of you armors every fight. These things are so voracious, that they'll eat right through your shields too, if given the opportunity.

>Continue searching the omniwiki
or
>Wat do?
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>>19898470
Continue searching omniwiki:
Effectiveness of Blue Goo.
Any energy signatures we can use to find the scout nanites when they go after our comm systems.
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>>19898470
>>Continue searching the omniwiki
Once more, for whatever seems relevant.
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Honestly, shotguns can disable them.

Miniguns seem like the best course of action for range weaponry to me. Wasting time with plasma containment systems when we could just have more ammo blocks is silly.

We should just make a whole mess of chaingun UAVs as support.
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>>19898470
How long until they arrive at this planet?
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>>19898470

Read up more on armour. Like how long Blue Goo can keep someone safe.
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BLUE GUSTA!

So, you want to use your blue goos, but finding them less than effective? So were we, but fortunately old Jack told us why that was happening. You see, despite these Vonnies having all the basic properties of grey goo (voracious appetite for mass, energy absorption, replication) they aren't, which is why our counter goo isn't working so well. See, they got this little outer shell that houses all the nannites, protecting it from direct countermeasures (as well as allowing the nannites themselves to be more efficient, not having to carry onboard computing). What Jack and his old crew found for us is that a system that works to release countmeasures at the moment their attack measures begin is the best way to counteract them. If you've got something covered in a layer of blue goo, it'll be all 'naw, bitches' an push it to the side like a repless hooker. And then continue eating.

Active release, on the other hand, strikes when it's vulnerable. In fact, the boys down at Firewall Research can be the ones to tell us to suck it this time, as they think if they can perfect the system, the Vonnies'll start dropping dead on the wall. Putting our current ramshackle system on your armor (design <here>) should be able to keep you armor hole free until it runs out of goo.

The big key to take away from this: don't get extinctificated until they finish the project.
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>>19898671

Very interesting indeed.
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>>19898671

>Continue browsing omniwiki
or
>Wat do?
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>>19898697

Hmm...I think we better get these girls to see how they would prefer to approach it. After all, it's no use giving Reimu a bow if she'd prefer a spear (She'd be more likely to ignore us)
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>>19898697
Continue browsing omniwiki:
Is there any way to detect the scout replicators sent to take down communications?
Is there any way to detect their arrival or position?
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>>19898731

Seconded.
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Create force hand and a half sword, liquid nitrogen/plasma delivery system, and dual railpistols and dual force shortswords.
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Both, >>19898977 and >>19898731, and apply that blue goo defense to the armor.
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ENEMIES EVERYWHERE

So your the Mahou Shoujo girls that your Planetary AI has recruited to protect your planet's communications systems from enemy encursion, and you probably want to know a few things, such as 'how da fuq will we be able to tell where these Vonnies land?' or 'can we into haxxor the communications?'. The first one is fairly easy - yes, you will be able to figure out where the Vonnies are and where they are going. While their shells are built such that they'll just obsorb any radar and make you think you missed them, the presence of these things raises the level of Atomski-Kepler fivespace pressure. Now I have no idea what that means, but the eggheads tell me that you can write up a program that measures the six-d axis of a qubit for any device that uses them (read: all). Apparently, the increase in pressure does something for how the little guys get their spin on.

Now again I know jack shit about what any of this means, but this lets you triangulate position, movement, and velocity across threespace when the Vonnies show up. Quantum weirdness at it's weirdest.

>Continue browsing omniwiki
or
>Wat do
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>>19899004

See how the girls are taking all this information. Offer any of them the chance to back out...but remind them, it may mean there isn't anyone to save this planet.
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Create force hand and a half sword, liquid nitrogen/plasma delivery system, and dual railpistols and dual force shortswords. Also apply Blue Goo to armors.
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>>19899038

Correction: That's 'As the AI'.

As the Pink Haired one...be dumbfounded...but also totally up for this. Heroism...hell yes.
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>>19899004
One last question to the omniwiki:
Any known methods of spoofing the sensors of the Replicators?

Then it's to see if the girls are still willing to join up, then fabbing some weapons for them to start training on.
Like auto-shotgun drones that'll fly around Anne, and field-effect melee weapons and gauntlets and boots for Minaka, and just a whole bunch of different guns for Reimu.
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>>19899055
We could use the liquid nitrogen in 20mm auto-grenade launchers and in drones.
Probably also an auto-shotgun version.
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>>19899070

=====Omniwiki=====

WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THAT

So you wanted to be the girl who does the spoofing of the sensors. Problem is we don't have sensors to test spoofing methods on.

There is now a bounty on Vonny sensors. Anyone who can deliver large numbers of intact ones to Firewall Research will be receive the massive reps with the Firewall Friendlies.

Signed: The R&D Department, Firewall HQ.
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>>19899185

Be the AI. See how the girls are taking all this information. Offer them the chance to back out.
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>>19899185
Okay, that sounds like it's enough from the omniwiki.

As the pinkette, sounds like it's time to join up.

As the AI, see how the girls are taking this knowledge, and give them the job offer again, and remind them that they can still back out now.
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See >>19899055.
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Quick question
Why are we even thinking of limiting Anne's drones to one weapon type? Give her a weapons compiler module to switch her drones on the fly
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>>19899349
That's just for first level training. She needs to learn to control the basic auto-shotgun before she moves up to the liquid N2 grenade launchers and the force field projectors.
Then we'll give her ones with built-in compilers.
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>>19899425
Ok cool

Just seeing that people were heading down the path to close off tech seemed strange, really all three should have compilers for weapon swaps as needed
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>Last post of the night, need to be up in 4.

You are now the AI dressed up like the Lady of the Lake.

That will probably be the last time you ever willingly participate in a joint Wik out session with the rad mind melds and the - AUGH, you're still thinking like that guy. How in the Verse he managed to become the high-superior AI of the ReaDS and master editor of the Omniwiki when all he ever did before his mind was uploaded was smoke marijuana and play videogames is utterly beyond even your demi-god like Intelligence.

Before you remanifest yourself to the young children, you take a moment to see how they are faring.

Minaka's heart rate is up, her palms are sweating, she has a star in her eye and face eager to fight a worthy opponent. Unnoticed, or perhaps notticed and permitted, Anne is leaning on the pinkette's shoulder, her heart rate also up, but her self shaking from fear - whether it is for her own life, the life of humanity, or both, is unknown. Reimu is rubbing her temples, her heart rate unchanged but her visage marred by a surly frown.

"So, my children," You say to them, appearing once more. "I am needing from you to answerfy the question." Oh seriously, fuck that guy. "Will you help your fellow man, or will you back down now while you still can? The choie is yours, though I cannot know if any will rise up to take your place."

>Wat Do?
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>>19899349
>implying we even have access to "weapon compiler modules", whatever those are.
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>>19899511
Except we kind of do because it is just a compiler ( which we have access to awesome versions of ) and a pattern ( kind of free access to everything because we ARE the system )
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>>19899508

Generate images of weapons before each of them. A blade for Minaka, a Book for Anne and a Staff/Rifle hybrid for Reimu.

"If you are willing to risk your lives to save...everyone on this planet...and many others...take up your weapons."
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>>19899508
Accept, obviously.

Sheet updated with the glasses.
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>>19899508
See how they respond.

Obviously pinkette is having the most massive hard on over the idea so she will join, her friend will likely join out of concern for her well being

Really the only questionable one is blue because she has no outright reason to join up aside from survival.

We should make it clear that their assistance will be rewarded and we will provide everything we can to assist them
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>>19899549
Problem is the time needed to build. The crown took about 15 minutes total, and while it is complex, it's (fairly) small.

The guns are less complex, but bigger. This world's manufacturing is haxx, but not that haxx.
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>>19899557
Seconding this. We need to see if they will accept or not.
The first generation of the Dummy Plugs won't be ready for months, we need some girls to accept in the meantime.

And I hope that we're continually starting up new batches of the DOLLs by expanding the facility; I don't want to have to wait another 6 months after the first generation get decanted before the second generation is ready to fight.
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>>19899615
So can we do Haxx storage so we can pre compile things then break down / rebuild them quicker?
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>>19899834
Also make modular weapons so we can add or remove parts instead of having a whole new weapon for each type. They could be snap together and held together by our blue goo or a proxy goo

( it's cool if not just wanted to see what our limitations are )
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>>19899834
Pre compilation then rapid transfer seems like it would be easier than compilation on site if transporting the girls is any indication.
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... Buddha's bastard baby on a bicycle, 2.5cm? And they fuck with angular momentum at a detectable distance. Only thing I can think of is they've got a bunch of twisty little wormholes (all alike) in each one, and the extra volume goes to support and stabilization.

The good news is, we may not need to *care* what it's for. If it's (literally) screwing up local spacetime as a side effect, we ought to be able to fuck with 'em right back if we can duplicate it -- whatever coupling is causing the chiral anomalies will (p>0.999) work both ways. If it's active and intentional then white noise should fuck it up; if it's a passive side effect then we just need to find a good resonant frequency and watch them shake themselves apart.
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>>19899881
Yeah, the fact the we transferred all three of them to here from their location made me think it was possible.

Also we can have drone ship support on site so that their weapons can be transported short distance instead of long distance to further remove issues with it
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>>19899628
We ARE only going to use them in an absolute emergency, right?

>>19899557
Also this, but staff for Anne and dual pistols for Reimu
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>>19900114

The support ship should also have an ample supply of Blue Goo, so we can restock and rearm the girls if need be.
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>>19900227
If they work as husks, we should use them as much as possible.

The sooner we win the sooner we can go back to normal.
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>>19900227
We'll use them if they prove effective.
Besides, they're also spare bodies in case the girls lose their originals (though Reimu sounds like she's already on her second one).

Besides, it'll be nice to have some real daughters around to help out with managing this war.
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>>19900227
From my understanding they won't work as main combat troops because they husks won't trigger the glitch so yeah
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>>19900294
We don't know if the dummy plugs won't trigger the IFF bug. We're building them on the chance that they do, and as ready-made new bodies that the girls can be sleaved into if they lose their originals.
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>>19900315
Technically we could just copy their minds if it take that.
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Umm...here is a question: How much can we genemod the cloned bodies? Because we could totally give Anne and Reimu prebirth modding if we can do plenty of tinkering.
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>>19900373
As far as I'm aware, the contingency called for all of them to be given pre-natal genemods, all top-of-the-line stuff as well as the experimental and military-grade stuff.
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>>19900373
We probably could give them all top of the line mods.

The legality and morality of doing so without their permission is another matter entirely.
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>>19900373
Well we could give them the whole run of them I'm guessing

>>19900333
We don't know if that is either possible or would work.

And given that leaves us with an easy way out I dare say it won't be happening
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>>19900394

Maybe we should ask Reimu if she likes the idea of upgrading her body from her current baseline.

I bet we get a yes.

Anne...I'm not so sure.
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>>19900394
Those bodies are for military uses.

After the war they can have normal bodies if they want.
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>>19900411
we can store minds in servers.


If we can't copy them, we can ask for volunteers to take young bodies.
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>>19900465
If that works then sure
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>>19894594
I'm not the only one seeing it?
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>>19900621
Anne is in love with Minaka, and Reimu is going to end up going after Anne romantically now that her friends aren't around. Minaka is just in love with violence.
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>>19900697

>Minaka is just in love with JUSTICE!

Fixed that for you.
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>>19900621
I see it but we need to let them get used to their powers and each other first then we can get them to do all the yuri shenanigans with tsundere bluenette liking Anne who likes Pinky who is oblivious
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>>19900711
Thanks, much better.
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You guys do realize that the girls are going to flip out when they find out we've created an army of clones of them, right? Just use them as backup bodies, and only if shit gets seriously fucked up should we start them up.
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>>19900719
the husks are not clones of the girls. the girls don't even have all of the gene-mods

You can stick a mind in any body, blue has already said that on the job.
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>>19900719
They never have to know. They were simply 'injured' and we 'fixed' them. The amnesia that starts at from when they transformed (were backed up) is simply a symptom of the grey goo attacks.
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>>19900719
That's what my main thoughts are towards it all.
After all this is meant to be magical girls working against massive odds not army of clones fighting it
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>>19900697

>Reimu is going to end up going after Anne romantically now that her friends aren't around

Vaguely related...how WOULD Reimu treat Anne I wonder if Anne ended up in a genemodded body. Her usual insults and reason for hating Anne...would vanish.
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>>19900719
Identity crisis is going to be a big theme once we start backing up their brains and putting them in the army of supersoldiers.
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>>19900758
>>19900755

This is a society that accepts dying and having a new body grow for you. There will be no Identity crisis.
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>>19900801
There will be for Anne.
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>>19900811
Why? If she died, she would have gotten a new body just like hers. For the duration of the war she gets a military body, then after words she can have a normal body if she so wishes

You're just trying to make problems.
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>>19900839
after the war*
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>>19900839

We should find out about her family situation. It might be religious beliefs why she didn't get a genemodded body.
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>>19900839
And for someone who refused any upgrades and has actually pushed to show how good a slime can be it will cause issues if they are forced upon her

>>19900758
It will if they A die and are revived which is why we are using little girls because they IFF glitch stops them from using lethal force and B get super soldier bodies instead of replicas of their already good bodies
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>>19900920
... this is why we're growing young bodies..

drafted, unlimited wartime powers, can return to old body if wants too. Soldiers take orders after they've signed up. they don't get to choose what gun they use or tank they drive. They are weapons the moment they agree to fight, not girls.

I have no problem with telling them about the Dummy Plug system before they sign up. Better not lie to them from the start.
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>>19900741
Do you mean not clones as in they are similar visually but have different genemods than the originals, or a single standardized husk design that's not a copy of anyone in particular? If the latter, I am much less opposed to using the husks as an army, though we should probably create one or two specific backup bodies per magical girl, that are purely for uploading minds to in case they get killed and prefer their old body to a husk.
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>>19900920
>And for someone who refused any upgrades and has actually pushed to show how good a slime
Except that's wrong.
She CAN'T get genemods even if she wanted to because her parents are Luddites, not because she doesn't want genemods.
And she has to work hard to prove that she can compete with the genemods because it's the only thing she can do right now.
We haven't stayed with her long enough to know if, when she turns 18 and can make her own legal decisions, she won't go to Armstrong Hospital and get every genemod she can get.

Also, the girls can still be killed by collateral damage, even if the replicators won't try to kill them.
Death is not a permanent thing with cortical stacks, and neither is the body that they choose to be in when they get put into a new one. There won't be an identity issue because the idea is considered to be foolish, uneducated, and proven wrong in the setting.
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>>19901035
It wasn't stated specifically, but it's assumed that we're doing the latter, for efficiency's sake.
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>>19901018
Now, forcing girls to use a body they don't want to will simply piss them off and start rebellion and dissent.

They should get the option to use their original body or a genemodded version of it. I won't budge on this.
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>>19901058
Ah, good, that's a big portion of my worries gone.
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>>19901084
Then we reject any girl that won't use these military-grade spares we're building.
We have a planet's worth of young female humans to choose from, we already have a sandboxed fork of the demi-god AI finding suitable candidates.
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>>19901035
> single standardized husk design
with enough genetic variation as to not be a direct clone. so sibling levels of genetic similarity.

these bodies are for this military operation, not for long term civilian life.

>>19901084
this >>19901141

We're fighting a war, not alice's first tea party.
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>>19901169
>We're fighting a war
I think it needs to be said again:
The hostile VN nanite swarms are winning against trans-humanity; they have a post-scarcity galactic civilization scared shitless. Failure here will result in the deaths of every male and adult female human and trans-human on this planet.
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>>19901169
No. This makes the quest too easy, with the max physical stats, and about throwing meat at the problem until it goes away.

We also don't even know how the husks actually trip the glitch, even with a little-girl mind in them, so demanding YOU MUST MOVE TO ANOTHER BODY is pointless right now. Hopefully they don't, as this quest will be way too easy if it doesn't.

TL;DR: This is a story about magical girls, not fucking armies.
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>>19901294
Fuck you. It's not going to work because it'll be too easy, and then all our relationships with our magical girls will be messed up.
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>>19901417
I never said we force them out of their current bodies.

However, if they die and husks are open that's where they should go.
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>>19901169
>>19901294
Except how do you think things will go if we have our first run of soldiers defecting or rejecting our methods because we didn't tell them what it entailed

We already rejected 99.99% of possibles because we wanted very specific standards and now you are talking about just going full scale war with all the rejects? I don't think we would get much of a good response from such an action. Not to mention we might actually be limited in the number we can use as soldiers because while we may be post scarcity we still have energy limitations and we have no clue what these three we have currently will strain them
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>>19901470
reread
>>19901018
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>>19901468
And before you say "Why does that matter, this is a war feelings don't matter", we need a good relationship with the MGs to actually be able to tell them to do stuff.
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>>19901468
Exactly, READS isn't going to make it easy on us which is why we have three not an army already
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>>19901483
Yeah and those bodies may just fail miserably because they don't trip the glitch in the IFF because READS isn't giving us an easy time on all this shit
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>>19901495
Who ever said I didn't want good relations with them?

I said to tell them beforehand, however most of you people can't seem to read.

>>19901509
READS is a terrible DM if he's going to reject idea he didn't think of out of hand.

100% organic clones with a transferred human mind should trip the glitch.

>>19901547
now you're just mad we've used the resources at hand to craft a solution that doesn't invole yuri loli sextime.
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>>19901469
I misunderstood you then, my apologies. I still think that putting a mind in a husk won't activate the glitch, so how about we clone regular bodies for everybody as well, in case the husk doesn't work out?
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>>19901579
...How do you think they'll react to "by the way, if you accept, and you die, I'm going to stick you into a different body until this alien threat is defeated, which might be in decades."?
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>>19901470
>because we didn't tell them what it entailed
What, that if they died, they'd be put into a new body, one that might have Firewall-level genemods?
This is a society that can afford to put the deceased into a rec server until their new body is built, and where they can choose the looks of the new one.
Why would they have a problem with getting a new body?
That it looks different from what they originally had? It's not a permanent thing, and it's the same as wearing a uniform while they're on the job.

>>19901417
>with the max physical stats
The physical stats can already be boosted to the absolute maximum by using the nano- and femtotech motor assists and reinforced materials, so having max physical stats is a moot point. The only thing that actually matters is Smarts because it can't be improved by genemods.

As for throwing meat at the problem, that's exactly what we've been told to do. Keep throwing magical girls at it until Firewall R&D can come up with a superweapon that can wipe out the VN nanite swarms.

>>19901581
How are the dummy plug bodies we're building any different from a designer body created by a girl and that she resleaved herself into, besides the top-grade genemods we're using?
If you're saying that the bodies we're creating won't work even with the minds of the current candidates in them, then you may as well reject Reimu because the body she's in isn't her original.
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>>19901654
Kind of annoyed that they can't choose their face or hair color, but not the terrible repudiation of our methods that you seem to think is going to happen.
The Face Conglomerate is have a 50% off sale this weekend for custom new faces.
I don't think this society has the problems with self-identification that you think it does.
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>>19901579
specify, they use EEG readings as OP posted above. So a clone/husk grown to roughly twelve years old with a human mind should give normal 12 year old reading.

>>19901654
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>>19901666
Once again, given the level of cloning and mind transfer this civilization has, bodies should be viewed as disposable overall. Temporary transfer to a military body shouldn't be a problem.
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>>19901728
specifically*
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>>19901696
I... really can't argue with that. Still, we should clone all recruits anyway. If the husks don't work, we can immediately transfer minds to their proper bodies, and if they do work, they can be used so the magical girl in question doesn't have to disappear from their civilian life.
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>>19901728
>So a clone/husk grown to roughly twelve years old with a human mind should give normal 12 year old reading.
Well, that'll be when an appropriate mind is downloaded into the clone body.
We likely can't use our own forks because the EEG pattern will be off.
Though keep in mind that OP specifically said that it's only a guess:
>>19896042
>We theorize they have a way to determine the difference between a neotenic from actual girls based upon EEG readings, though I emphasize that this is but speculation.

And we forget to check the omniwiki if anyone's tried using neotenic's or forked informorphs in child bodies yet (the latter actually can't be done because the time between the emergence of the threat and when a new teen girl body would be ready don't match up to be possible).

Besides, we should have generic bodies ready simply because we don't know if any new girls will be recruited, and it takes a few months for the bodies to mature.
Better to get them into a new body as quickly as possible.
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>>19901811
More prep is never a bad thing.
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>>19901579
No I am simply pointing out that READS will probably say "lolnope I planned this shit so that we could have it run like this" so your grand plan of fucking things over probably won't work
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>>19901811
Getting clone bodies that match their current ones is no problem; it's just an extra 3 tubes we have to set up, after all.
But depending on if any other girls are recruited as backups (because we don't know if the current 3 will burn out from fighting the VN's before Firewall R&D comes through with their superweapon), we shouldn't have to wait the 6 months it'll take to get their new bodies ready, if we can avoid it by having the generic dummy plug clone bodies ready to be decanted once they're uploaded.
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> they still think it's a "glitch"
Yarite.
I'm betting this is a ploy by some radical group of either humans or aliens to rejuvenate the population by force and prevent stagnation and eventual collapse.

The implications are… disturbing.
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>>19901865
Well, look. If cloned bodies aren't going to trigger the IFF bug, then we need to get an immediate replacement for Reimu.
She's at least on her second body, not including any times she might have switch it out with something new because Face Conglomerate had a 2-for-1 sale going on, or a Try-Before-You-Buy promotional.
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>>19901579
Not every DM is up to your standards and quite often they don't think like you will so if he says that he can't let us do that because of whatever and you don't like that then you should probably just leave now to save us all some time
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>>19901894
Only having girls instead of boys being tagged as friendly is a bit counterproductive if they want to rejuvenate the population

It being a plot by some AI is entirely possible though
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>>19901865
> grand plan of fucking things over

I haven't tried to "fuck" anything over.

I was given a technology base to work with. I made the Dummy Plug idea after we learned of the extensive cloning tech they had.

If the DM is going to hand wave a viable solution because he didn't think of it the quest is doomed from the start. The time delay was a perfect handicap to the plan. A limit to human minds would also be reasonable. Not letting clones with human minds fucks over Reimu per >>19901908 's post
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>>19901908
It's not necessarily cloned bodies but mass produced husks which some people seem to think is the BEST IDEA EVER! Quite possibly will be vetoed
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Can we get a neotenic to volunteer for a suicide mission? Stick an alpha fork in a spare morph and throw it at the Vonnies to see what happens.

>>19901654
I assume it'll be more like "You'll have to use this spare body until we grow you a new one matching your old one. Shouldn't take more than a month -- unless you've got special requests...?" Spares can go back in the pool when vacated.

I mean, we have to manufacture at least one new body for every body lost, so it's no real extra expense to make one that matches their old one (plus upgrades, possibly). I agree that we probably can't afford to keep an unused spare for everyone, but I'll be appalled if we don't have usable backup bodies for anyone who dies on a mission.
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>>19901957
Clones isn't the issue mass produced clone armies is
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>>19901991
There us no difference in "clones" and "clone armies" aside from the size of the batch.

If we can replace their bodies then "clone armies" is viable.
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>>19901962
>cloned bodies but mass produced husks
There's no difference between the two. They both use the same exact technology. The only difference would be the mind inhabiting the shell.

And we've already set up a cloning facility for our Dummy Plug Contingency, and OP said that we'd have bodies ready in 6 to 7 months.
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>>19902029
>>19902022
Yes BODIES ready, there's nothing about whether just slapping a mind in there will cause them to work as expected. And mass produced clones for an army might show up as wrong on the EEG scans or any number of bullshit reasons that might get pulled to ruin the plans so I don't think it is worth pushing that much

By obviously I am the only one who seems to think not trying to munchkin our way out of our problem is a good idea so I will just shut the hell up about it
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>OP presents Magical Girl Quest
>Wherein the goal is to give little girls technology so advanced it's magic to fight a war
>quickly becomes an ethics and morality debate
>previous thread was primarily a debate about the pros and cons of powered armor

I fucking love you so much /tg/
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>>19902100
> mass produced clones for an army might show up as wrong on the EEG scans

there would be no difference between a clone grown one at a time and ones grown in batches of 1000.The only differences should be in the genetic variation that I asked for above.

Reimu is already useless to us if grown bodies do not trigger the IFF glitch.

This is not 'munchkin'ing my way out of the problem. If I wanted to 'munchkin' it away then I'd have us build a fleet and engage at light minute distances. These thing are killed by fucking shotguns and have no FTL that we know of. A fleet of shallow railguns broadside capital ships could win this fucking war as it stands.

>>19902166
this has been pretty fun so far!
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>>19902166
>powered armor
Yeah, with what we learned about the Blue Goo and how it has to be applied, I don't think that the frillier and more clothes-like magical girl outfits will work. We need SOME kind of material for the Blue Goo to work with.
The kind of full-length skirt and full-length jacket that Nanoha wears, however, should provide the material base that the Blue Goo needs and still be able to cover most of the magical girl to be combat effective.
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>>19901936
Young males is 50% survival rate.
This is some fucked-up computers fucked-up plan to re-enact a harem anime so there are two girls for every male on the planet.
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>>19902222
OP has already listed the outfits last thread I do believe
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>>19902255
Yes. And we want them to be able to keep their clothes on, so heavier clothing which can handle more Blue Goo would be better.

Also, this means that all weapons will need a coating of Blue Goo to not be eaten.
Just because the girl holds it, doesn't mean the VN won't eat it.
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>>19902222
>>19902222
Actually, they don't harm girls, remember? Exposed skin is fine, but clothes have to be treated with blue goo to keep them from dissolving away and leaving the girls naked and unarmed.

Also how do you know that kind of material base blue goo needs?
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>>19902272
>>19902222
Yep, no power armour in there but the clothes do get the blue goo treatment to stop them from being dissolved

And that sounds so fucking perverted now that I say it
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>>19902287
They don't. This is all them thinking that's how it works when blue goo is actually Nanites so it doesn't matter how much clothing there is really.

It's not like we are working on hard sci fi here or anything
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>>19902166
this should be the OP image
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>>19902268
Hexer, I think you've watched too much anime.
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>>19902565
My powerlevel is pretty compared to most people's, and there's no such thing as too much anime since everything worth doing is worth overdoing.

The idea itself comes from various stories I've /read/ though.

>>19902166
That's... strangely accurate.
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>>19902596
*low
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>>19902596
Entirely beside the point. And the point is that I was making a joke.
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>>19902619
Or something. Hit submit too soon.
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>>19902596
It does seem plausible

And tg just doesn't like to admit but we are all massive fucking weeaboo's
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>>19902619
Sorry, my autism is acting up.

Now… liquid metal nano-machine tool for Anne?
That can be formed into a handblade if things get too close to her?
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>>19902596
And that is the right opinion.
If you can do it the you should overdo it
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>>19902686
Well I thought shields were still being planned but we could combine them
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>>19902686
I think combat shields are the way to go. Especially if they can be projected at range such that she could effectively lob a "shield grenade"
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>>19902734
Yeah that was the idea basically shield weapons for melee and range as a sort of laser substitute

She could also use the Nanites to compile fire and ice effects and encase them in the shields to launch them at enemies
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Just watch, Minaka is going to request power armor using a picture of the Emprah as a template.
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>>19902767
But it won't help any more than regular clothing ?
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>>19902767
Well I had suggested they have normal suits and then power armour as an upgrade option as needed
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>>19902767
I'm expecting some more along the line of Arthur
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>>19902775
I know, I'm betting on the fact that she won't care and she'll want it because it's cool. Also because the irony is hilarious.
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>>19902751
That is quite the idea I was trying to espouse.

I think "elemental" effects would be better than a laser, based on what was covered in the OMNIWIKI entries today.
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>>19902775
Not really

>>19902779
Me too

>>19902787
Nah she idolizes Nanoha and she didn't use power armour or anything of that kind

I can see something like saber being requested though
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>>19902792
Well that was sort of why I brought it back up but I originally said she should be a techno wizard with shields and elemental attacks for combat which relied on Nanites so it fit with the whole Clark's third law theme
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>>19902775
Even if they don't use lethal methods, armor will still offer more protection than plain clothing.

Now, that's not to say that there can't be armored, or shielded, clothing.
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>>19902827
And I don't think I ever disagreed with you.
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Okay fellas, let me put it to ya this way:

Our magical girl team is in a canyon fighting gray goop constructs like the saucy firecrackers they are when - all of a sudden, the nanites that were eating away rock matter from the top of the cliff dislodge a giant boulder and start a huge rockslide that threatens to smash our heroines like tiny, tiny insects.

In such a situation, what would you rather your waifu be wearing? (Assume that all options are sufficiently covered in blue goo)

A.) Heavy Powered Armor (with sealed interior)
B.) A meido uniform
C.) A t-shirt that says "I <3 Onii-Chan"
D.) A skin-tight nanite jumpsuit
E.) NOTHIN' AT ALL!
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>>19902938
Nothing, obviously.
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>>19902938
E

But this is actually a waste of time since READS has specified no power armour in their kits already

Realistically D is the closest we will get to anything being a combat suit
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>>19902954
Which would imply they're just slathered in Blue Goo.
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>>19902964
That is the implication, yes.

In fact, one might refer to them as goo-girls.
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>>19902964
Mmmm blue goo lolis

Also >>19902938 is applying hard sci if to a pretty soft setting. I mean we are dealing with a post scarcity transhuman cilivization and people are arguing physics as we understand them?

Little thing called suspension of disbelief here guys. Trying to get your attentnion
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>>19902996
No, no, that would be something else. Though not a terrible idea. Hmm...
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>>19903008
They transform into goo as a special move?
>>19902751
Sounds good, ya.
Shields n' nanite clouds.
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>>19903045
>They transform into goo as a special move?
Not what I was thinking, but also good.

And now, I shall wish you all a good night, 'cause need some friggin' sleep.
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>>19902938

I'd rather what they are wearing be irreverent due to the heavy force shields at our disposal.
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>>19903045
> They transform into goo as a special move?
And then, /tg/ was /d/.
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>>19903142
That's sort of my hope for pushing shields as a main defensive option

We have shielding technology and we have Nanite technology out the asshole. Let's take advantage of it
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>>19899950
You are awesome and should feel awesome for having that idea.

>>19902961
Woah woah woah. Hold on. I don't think I said that, and if I did, that's not what I meant.

In the course of the Vonnies' non-lethal assault on you, they will go through lengths to neutralize you as a threat without harming 'you.' This includes breaking your stuff.

Since power armor is big and obvious, they like to nom on it if it's unprotected by active blue goo defenses (which you have a link to the schema for). In other words, if you're using it, prepare for a type of 'clothing damage' that does more than provide fanservice.

Now, if you'll excuse me.

>Brb work.
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>>19903162
So it still won't he that effective.
And I meant in the descriptions you included no power armour, I like the idea that they have the regular nano suit crap and then have power armour as an upgrade / standby option
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>>19899950
Is it wrong that this picture makes me think that using magical boys dressed as girls would be hilariously dickish in this situation?
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>>19903160

Shields are my preferred option due to their dual nature as defensive options AND makeshift offensive. Their only issue is that we can't make them too long lived or they will get eaten through, so several shields, no single one lasting more than a few miliseconds would be our best option. Let them break themselves on the shields that don't last long enough to get used to power stuff.
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>>19903217
Oh yeah we need to make sure that is how they work
Just figured it was an easy way to avoid the whole our equipment keeps getting nommed issue
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I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings art guy, don't delete your post.
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>>19903640
I'll post a better version in the morning when I can draw something that fits better for this. I broke away from the manga style too much.
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BUMP
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>>19899881

>A mid air conversion!?

Will our 'transformation scenes' be like

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8DxJ7jc7Po&feature=related

then? Especially since Anne's sprite-friend is Tony Stark...
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>>19907061

Very possibly. Either that or Nanoha Style. They are decently mechanical in places.

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHpKU3apXQE
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>>19907061
>>19908643
As long as it's not like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ryw1XqPwX4 ...
But if we're going full nanites, the logical thing would be Plugsuit (skintight w/ bitz) or Zerosuit (skintight w/o bitz)

Also, if the enemy IFF does work based on thought patterns (8as we suspected), then we really, REALLY, shouldn't be going out of our way to traumatize the girls (e.g. by mass-cloning them)
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>>19909021
it not going to fucking traumatize. These people buy new faces like they're clothing.

We also explained that the Dummy Plug system isn't clones of the girls.
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>>19909021

>>19901666
>>19901696
>>19901811
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>>19909021
But skintight stuff is boring. Let's go with an choice between BGDS power armor with zerosuit below it to prevent wardrobe malfunction, or nanoweave clothing.
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>>19909043
>>19909062
I realize the DOLLs themselves aren't too bad, but we still oughta tread lightly. If the EEG hypothesis is correct, these girls might be one failed SAN-check from becoming replicator-food. And of course, that could easily lead into a downwards spiral where it just keeps tumbling down until all returns to nothing.
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>>19909181
Then when that happens we use the actual munchkin plan of setting up anti-matter production stations around our primary and using a fleet of Railgun Drone frigates.
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>>19909181
I feel the nanites are much more likely to cause a Sanity check then the AI growing spare bodies given the freedom of body choice and replacement they have.
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>>19909332
it's cute that you're so mad.
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>>19909352
I'm not mad, that's an actual contingency plan we should be working on in case the exploitation of the IFF bug decreases in effectiveness over time.
Kinetic weapons work well on the nanites, and so a rail-shotgun should work. Combine it with anti-matter bottles and kinetic force shield drones, and it may be able to keep the nanite swarm at bay long enough for Firewall R&D to finish their research.
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>>19909406
oh, sorry. the capital fleet is pretty dammed munchkin in term of how READS wants this quest to turn out I think.

I though you were the guy that used "munchkin" to describe my ideas because I was depriving him of his loli fantasies.
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>>19909446
http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
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>>19909531
I stopped taking the argument with him seriously when he called me a munchkin.
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>>19909556
In all fairness, while not necessarily munchkin, the plan does deviate quite a bit from the intended course of events.

But whatever. I just stepped in because of the unfounded claims.
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>>19909332
>setting up anti-matter production stations
I suspect it's either too late for that, or too resource intensive for Harper's Reach, from the comment in the OMNIWIKI entry that antimatter is friggin' expensive.
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>>19910142
antimatter is a waste for the most part anyway. projectiles at relativistic speeds(I think the breakpoint is .8 C) have enough energy to make the antimatter-matter breakdown superficial.
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>>19910223
That, also.

It's mainly that antimatter was marked as being efficient at "killing" large groups of 'em.
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>>19910223
We have FTL and no information on how it works, as well. What the fuck would happen if we hit the asteroid with a probe going at several C? Only one way to find out.
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>>19910142
You -could-, I suppose, though don't expect to be making more than maybe three or four milligrams an Old Terra day (which is ~.97 Harper's Reach days.

And the people saying that the girls wouldn't find it all that weird that the AI is manufacturing spare bodies are right. It is accepted by 99.99999% of the population that your physical body that is not the source of identity, the State Vector is. Which is why you cannot improve the Smarts factor with augs, because as Smarts is directly tied to State Vector (being its efficiency in solving problems), to improve or decrease it would cause a fundamental change in the State Vector, effectively creating a new person and permakilling the old.

In short, Smarts is a function of the Software, not the Hardware. You can improve the hardware, but if the software is crap, the results won't be any better, just faster (unless, like in EM War, speed in getting ANYTHING out is key). Whereas, if you have great software but shit hardware that can't run it, you end up autistic. For the most part, Speed is the measure of mental hardware performance.

Generally, autism occurs when speed is less than three and smarts is more than six. If you're smarts is ever more than half your speed, you'll get mild mental things, like Anne's tendency to focus on something to the exclusion of all else.

>(Also, no story posts tonight. Today's been a bit hectic.)
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>>19910425
I sure we can make ~2-300 MT nukes more efficiently then we can make antimatter. The only way I know how to make it is fun time in a particle accelerator.
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>>19910475
I will post some OMNIWIKI stuff to start answering general setting information that the girls and AI know, though.
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>>19910490
awesome sir.
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>>19910490
I think that'll do, then. May as well just see how far this thread will go, rather than start a new one, I think.
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(Feel free to ask any questions you want a wiki article on. Remember that Reimu is a med school upperclassmen, Anne is working on a masters in Mechanical and Nanological Engineering, and even Minaka's a "super senior" student of Physics who's lazing along to her third bachelor's).
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>>19910659
State vector transfer, state vector storage, state vector copying
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>>19910659

...we really grabbed a brainy bunch of them.

How would you go about improving stats aside from genemodding? Anne could do with some more speed.
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=Omniwiki FAQ=

>Da fuq is the reason that compilers can't be slapped on a weapon's stock for variable configuration?

Well bro, you're suffering from the same misconception that many people carry about their compilers. Most of them think of them as an appliance you keep at eye level, storing the nanobots that decompile your base elements and recompile it as foodstuffs, gadgets, clothes, all that jazz. What you don't see is the 253 K coolant being constantly flooding the heat sink, keeping the machine from overheating.

This is the same reason one cannot create items that are non-state stable at a minimum temperature of 303 K using their compiler - the heat produced by the process of creation will cause it to melt, or evaporate.
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>>19910659
And… and they're how old?
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>>19910817

Fifteen.
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>>19910817
welcome to the post-scarcity future, where your only worry is being bored.

now all parents are Asian parents
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>>19910814
What is the state of forking State Vectors?
Can it be done?
Can they be copied at all?
A person's cortical stack keeps their State Vector intact if they die, right? And they become an infomorph until their new body is ready: can they be copied then?
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>>19910827

*Note that they all have been self aware and have been learning through downloads (to form the information's base) and practice since the were given cortical stacks at six months. Note that a cortical stack requires an ethernet cable to be connected to anything.
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>>19910848

>where your only worry is being bored.

And being conscripted as a magical girl apparently.
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>>19910884
first encounters are always strange.

nanites that want to make harem anime are pretty up there though.
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>>19910873
Ah, so whereas current-day humans don't really start learning anything academic until age five at the earliest, these girls have been going since their brain was physically capable of processing the information.

Means that in addition to better learning techniques, they've got four and a half years head start.

Question, how does this affect their social maturity, if at all?
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>>19910909

Considering what we've seen...not very much.
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How many seats are there at the round table, and who sits in them?

Also awww, no story. But that's understandable, things happen and you need to relax.
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>>19910923

Twelve...and one empty place(Judas' place). At least in the myth. Not sure about our one.
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>>19910979
Wasn't that the Siege Perilous, not Judas's place? The seat that only the knight who was destined to find the Holy Grail could sit on?
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>>19910857

>How do I became Legion?

The forking of state vectors is an EXTREMELY controversial issue within the ReaDS administrated world, mostly due to the confused legal status of the two divergent State Vectors - which has rights to the identity of the 'parent' vector being the first of many. Divergent state vectors, being the resultant of the same equation in different circumstances, are the only State Vectors that can permanently intersect and continue on as a single vector.

While it does not matter the state of the cortical stack, if one has sufficient storage space, they can effectively create as many copies of their state vector as they wish. This is considered highly unethical though.

There is an unconfirmed rumor that a Crime Conglomerate out in the Sol Oort is completely made up of a single man and his numerous forks. This is highly unlikely, but not impossible.

>Edit History
>Edit (6.22.19.2930): Broseph, everybody forks their vector at least once in their lifes. How else are you gonna be able to fuck yourself?
>>Edit (6.22.19.2930): They do recombine after though*****
>>>Edit (7.25.29.1380): <Chief Administrator/Rick> How did you end up the leader again?
>>>>Edit (6.22.19.2930): Cause I'm chill <High Strung Broseph/Michelangelo>. Cause I'm chill.
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>>19911011

It's both. The Twelve were designed after Jesus and his Disciples, the 13 was the Siege Perilous, where Judas supposedly sat. It would remained unclaimed until the Knight who was to obtain the Holy Grail sat there.
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>>19910857
Just a warning about this one, we WILL, at some point, attempt to copy people's minds and put them into our husk-army.

Unless you either explain it's impossible or very frowned on for humans because it creates two beings that have the same memories of home, friends, and stuff that must be shared. Or something like that.
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>>19910909

If they were alive today, they'd have been about as 'mature for their age' as Hayate was in the Nanohaverse.
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>>19911065
>>19911038

Looks like you were ahead of me.
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>>19910814
How about adding expendable coolant? A small tank of exothermic reactives (or just plain liquid helium) could give you enough chill for quite a few field compilations. Plus you could use it as a cryo-weapon if cornered.

It's horribly wasteful, but I shouldn't have to tell you why I'm willing to bite the bullet on it just this once...
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>>19911038
so, possible but "unethical". I doubt letting our colony be eaten is a seen as a better fate then a few copies.

It's a good backplan then. We find volunteers that are willing to be copied, their copies after the war can be resettled on the other side of the galaxy/system to get around the awkward. The universe is a big place.
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>>19911112
...and I mean endothermic, of course.
Herpa derpa durp.
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>>19911124
That should, of course, be a contingency plan to get ready.
I'd also think it best if we could test the idea that neotenics and forked versions of the Daedalus AI put into a pubescent female human body don't trigger the IFF bug.
Even if it turns out that the IFF bug isn't triggered, we can use the data to find out where the sensors of the VN's are located or what they use as sensors, so that we can try to capture them and then forward to Firewall R&D for analysis.
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>>19911124

Yeah. Until the Firewall Research Division finishes its project, you're at Godzilla Threshold. If it can buy you time, you've been okayed to do it.

Heck, even when Firewall finishes, you'll probably be at Code Red until you beat them out of system.

>>19911112
That could work, if you're willing to go (I'll say 1/3 time for Military grade Compilers) 5~10 minutes with a side gun while the main one shifts.
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This is progressing better than expected.


Hm, still think some type of freeze damage would work best.
That or plasma or straight-up EMPs.
Gotta keep those nasties from regrouping (something mass-based weaponry probably only does insufficiently.).
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>>19911124
>>19911198
Well, the Broputer mentioned that you can merge divergent state vectors. Since they're all gonna be doing the same thing, the deltas should be negligible to begin with.
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>>19910873
That makes it much more reasonable.
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>>19911250
that's if the divergent state vectors want to merge. they are fully sentient. better yeah, treat them like citizens.

>>19911198
that'd be one of the first things to test. AI forks, then old female/male vectors, then young male/female vectors.

>>19911237
> If it can buy you time, you've been okayed to do it.

very nice
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>>19911237
>Godzilla Threshold
now all I can think of is the hundreds of thousands of jap soldiers that had their lives thrown away trying to stop Godzilla.
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=Omniwiki=

Endothermic Rounds.

So, now that you are the adorable little Mahou Shoujos, you want to get your murder on with the Vonnies with that 'ferrous liquid nitrogen cartridge' that so intrigued you from the original Wik. Well I've got some good news for you: the download for the schema is right <here>.

Now you might ask, "Hey! <Broputer/Rick>! What weapons can I be the putting these sweet ass ammo cartridges into?" Well, now this answer is pretty darn technical, so be ready for some sweet tech pronz.

FLN Cartridges may be inserted into any railgun whose model is compliant with the 007 Cartridge Standard, including but not limited to the X-14 Scattergun, the X-19 Shotgun, the X-01 Assault Carbine, the X-49 Sniper Rifle, and the X-193 Autocannon. The amount of shots depends on the gun, though due caliber limitations of the 007, there is a minimum of 1000 shots per cartridge.

Yeeeeaaaah boy. That's some hot, or - dare I say -cold- - firepower. You know you love it.
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>>19911517

Mwah ha ha.

Question: If all those guns use the same cartridge, could we have a gun that combines multiple of them into a single weapon that all draw off the same cartridge (A Rifle with an underslung shotgun or something?)
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>>19911517
How much industrial capacity do we have to spare?

One plan I have is to make several quick-start colony ships, set them up on non-acid hellhole habitual zone planets and have them make pure war industry colonies. they probably wouldn't show any results for this fight, but if we fall here then they could help the core systems.

this would depend on how fast our FTL is though.
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>>19911237
OK, so we'll just keep the stuff in storage and hope the Vonnies don't interfere with our Q-trans.
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>>19911517
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>FLN Cartridges may be inserted into any railgun whose model is compliant with the 007 Cartridge Standard, including but not limited to the X-14 Scattergun, the X-19 Shotgun, the X-01 Assault Carbine, the X-49 Sniper Rifle, and the X-193 Autocannon. The amount of shots depends on the gun, though due caliber limitations of the 007, there is a minimum of 1000 shots per cartridge.
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>Yeeeeaaaah boy. That's some hot, or - dare I say -cold- - firepower. You know you love it.

I immediately thought of image related.
And yes, that's a Mahou Shoujo.
A very foul-mouthed, ANGRY Mahou Shoujo, I might add.
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>>19910438

You can't, due to the way FTL works. It works much like the drive in Ringo's 'Through the Looking Glass' series that the space submarine uses to get around.

Basically, you're velocity isn't greater than C, you teleport everything in the effective range (Usually an eggish shape that just covers the ship) of the FTL engine forward 300,000 kms every cycle of the engine (between 1/10 second and 1/1000 of a second). And you -reaaaaaaallllly- don't want these guys to eat an FTL ship. That will not end well for the universe.
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>>19911596

Building a ship can be done in about four months, and you have 80 shipyards in geostationary orbit connect to land via spacelift.

The Vonnies do not have FTL, so their main force is a minimum of 4 months away. The scout forces are at an unknown distance.

>>19911631
Q-transmission can not be interrupted, intercepted, or anything like that. It's simply got incredibly slow bandwidth (Norm communications FTL like the ships, only they can go MUCH faster).
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>Scientists claim that antimatter is the costliest material to make.[37] In 2006, Gerald Smith estimated $250 million could produce 10 milligrams of positrons[38] (equivalent to $25 billion per gram); in 1999, NASA gave a figure of $62.5 trillion per gram of antihydrogen.[37]

>one gram cost the entire world's yearly economic output to make
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>>19911768

>The Vonnies do not have FTL, so their main force is a minimum of 4 months away. The scout forces are at an unknown distance.

Hmm...we have time for training then. That's very good. We MIGHT be able to get Reimu to overcome her hatred of Anne in that time...it might be needed.
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>>19911808

Soft Sci-fi bro.

But it does go to show how haxx their tech is.

(Fuckin' Miracles)
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>>19911829
MAYBE we have time for training.
The main force of Vonnies won't attack until the scouts send back a signal indicating that they were successful.
The scout force is an unknown distance away.
We won't be able to detect them until they actually make atmospheric entry and then start looking for our communication systems.
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>>19911854
I know, but it's still crazy to read that cost.
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>>19911863

Even if we only have a few days, it's still time for SOME training. We need to at least get them used to their weapons and how they plan to move about.
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Is this thread Autosaging? I think it is.
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>>19912153
For a while, yeah. Down to page 8, it'll last a while yet.
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The 300th post was >>19911040 or thereabouts.
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I still don't like the army plan or the ships in orbit plan, but if we're gonna do them we might as well do them right.

Per >>19911675, all defense ships should be strictly slower than light.

Before wide-scale recruiting(or wide-scale copying) of minds for the husks, we should take three of them, and put in an AI fork, a copy of a volunteer from Firestorm, and a copy of a little girl volunteer. Then send them in and, well, see if they get killed. Hopefully any human mind will do, or none will, since then we can take minds from Firestorm and get them with an understanding of fighting.
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What about psionics?
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>>19912998
According to the time estimates and evaluation of our industrial capacity, your first suggestion is redundant and we were planning on doing the second as soon as we can find an appropriately aged clone body that we can appropriate.

Any ships we start building right now will be finished by the time the main nanite swarm arrives.
Any defense ships we build will be STL simply because the nanite swarm will already be here by then.
FTL would only be for evacuation ships, and even those might be finished too late, or will need to be self-destructed to prevent the technology being absorbed by the VN's.

As for the clone army, the Dummy Plug Contingency will be 2 months late, since it will take 6 months of accelerated growth to get them matured to the right age, and the VN swarm will be here in 4 months.
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>>19913101

Indeed. I think we REALLY should talk to them about backup bodies. Not because we are going to force them into them right away...just make them aware that there IS a plan for if they do get hurt.

We don't want to toss this at them without warning.

...though we might want to keep the 'Army of husks' quiet.
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>>19913160
Once they actually accept, we can tell them about it, unless people think we should tell them before.
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>>19913101

Four months at the earliest. These things aren't exactly smart - they will keep waiting for signal.
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>>19913160
>I think we REALLY should talk to them about backup bodies
Back-up bodies is kind of a given in this society. I mean, you don't even need to go through your employer's medical plan for one, it's considered a basic right of simply being a citizen at Harper's Reach (though abuse of the system by killing yourself multiple times is frowned upon).
Getting a new body if they die is something that they will expect to be done.
The only thing to say would be "Sorry girls, but not even the Daedalus AI can create a brand new clone body in under 6 months. We can go with one of these super-soldier generics, or if you want, see if the Face Conglomerate has their Fall Lineup ready."
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>>19913172
Speaking of which, ReaDS, is there any way to destroy the system if the VNs win? Say by inciting a nova in the star, or by dropping the various planets into the sun? If we can't stop them, then at least we can slow them down and derive them of resources.
tl;dr: How do I make star go boom?
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>>19913160
>>19913171
>>19913210
Honestly, the only two people that would give a shit that we're prepping generic super-soldier backup bodies would be Reimu, who would be wanting to customize her's before she resleaves so that it reflects the latest fashions, and Anne, who might try to get herself killed because this would provide a way to FINALLY say 'FUCK YOU' to her Luddite parents and get genemods (top-of-the-line pre-natal ones, at that).
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>>19913101
Actually, nothing was planned about using already-trained minds from Firestorm in the husks. And I'm afraid I don't recall anything about us being unable to make FTL ships, or them costing more. But whatever, I'm just as happy if we were already being smart about it and I just didn't notice.
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>>19913210
You don't even need a medical plan, because medichine's and doctors get the mad reps from attaching a conglomerate name to their practice.

But I hope you don't mind if I borrow that bit about the fall lineup.

>>19913217

Oscillate the Atomski-Kepler ratio over the star's embedded fourspace to cause gravitational destabilization using the Vanders-Allen flux capacitor, cap'n.
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>>19913267

Either that or Anne would want to avoid it to respect her parents wishes.

But yeah, my point was mainly 'Tell them that the bodies they will be resleaved into if they die are military grade. It might freak Anne out...and it's just something that should be told them I feel.
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>>19913395

>Firewall.

Also, the reason you want STL ships as your defense force is because you'll be screwing over the entire universe if you give these things FTL.
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I was under the impression that the DOLL/Husks/whatever backups weren't particularly for our "primary" girls, beyond perhaps a temporary measure while their "normal" replacement body finished, which we would be growing/have in stasis any way.

I'm not against giving them improved bodies with ALL THE MODS while they're in service, but they should very much be able to return to their pre-recruitment state if they desire, or whatever they might want in a new body, accounting for whatever legal issues there may be.
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>>19913395
The name of the spec-ops security group is Firewall.
And we can make FTL ships, but I was pointing out that building them is moot when the nanite swarm is already on it's way towards us, and the amount of time between when the ships are finished and when the nanites is going to be small enough so that building FTL into the ships would be kind of stupid.

>>19913430
Nothing from Anne indicates that she likes her parents or respects their opinions. She's only bound in a non-genemodded body because legally she's not allowed to choose.
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>>19913494
>the DOLL/Husks/whatever backups weren't particularly for our "primary" girls, beyond perhaps a temporary measure while their "normal" replacement body finished, which we would be growing/have in stasis any way.
That's pretty much right.

As for them returning to their pre-recruitment body styles, that's something that we could easily provide for them, and something they wouldn't need us for anyway, since they can just pick up a Face Conglomerate brochure and check out the trending fashions of the week to see if they want to go with a new body type.
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>>19913504

The swarm is not yet on it's way. They're gonna stay out there in the Oort until the signal comes, nomming on everything and making themselves bigger.

The scouts, though may be anywhere from a week out to just launching, you don't know.
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>>19913554
So assuming we started construction of ships now, and they're using STL drives, and the VN swarm doesn't move, it would take 6-8 months before the ships were in range to begin culling the swarm?
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>>19913585
Yes, if you can holdout that long.
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>>19913611
How quickly could we set up a sensor net of satellites around the planet so that we could at least get some kind of warning when the scouts arrive?
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>>19913425
I could swear that's a three worlds collide reference.
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>>19913443
Speaking of which, have we moved those FTL probes we sent away from the hoard of death?
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>>19913698

Never heard of it. Atomski-Kepler is something I came up to explain why the Nanoha girls couldn't just teleport all over Mid for a fanfic (too many will collapse the local vacuum, problem is made worse by gravity wells). The rest I was just cribbing from Star Trek (read it in scotty's voice).

>>19913692

Three days to build the sensors, two to deploy.

>>19913739

Yes, though it happened offscreen.
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>>19913794
>Three days to build the sensors, two to deploy.
Then I think we should begin putting up our sensor net immediately.
At the earliest estimate of 1 week for the scout force to arrive, we should have some advance warning of where they will be going.
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>>19913794
Never mind, their phlebotinum force was different.
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>>19913538
What I was getting at there, is that Daedalus should cover whatever costs may be associated with their post-service resleeving, if they choose it.
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>>19913867
Definitely. I can't see a reason not to, really.

Also, we're down to page 14.
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>>19913964

Should we make a new thread for discussion? Or maybe take this to IRC or something?
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>>19913994
Let's wait until this 404s. If reads doesn't make a new one before half an hour, then we should make a new one.
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>>19914054

Aye Aye. I'll be on the watch for it (Hopefully we won't double up)
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>>19914082
Nah, I'll let you set it up if ReaDS doesn't.
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>>19914054

I'm gonna let this 404 and catch some shuteye for the early shift tomorrow. New story thread will be up around 11 30 ish.
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>>19914221
Well, there you have it gents. If one of you wants to kick up a thread to continue discussion, I ain't gonna say no, but I'm too lazy to do it myself.

I'd say do it before this 404s, which is likely to be soon, and drop a link to it in here.
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>>19914577
And I mean real damn soon. 3 threads from falling off.


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