Part 3: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/20048707/We got interrupted by 4chan downtime...so not "a lot" to catch up on.Glory to the Soviet Union, Comrade.You are a Mikhail Krasnov, T-80 tank commander in the 39th Guards Motor Rifle Division, 15-Guards Tank Regiment. Stationed just off Fulda Gap base out of Ohrdruf, East Germany. Your gunner, Anton Kovalevsky, and your driver, Mariya Belinsky. They are your close friends and comrades in arms.---------------It is February 12, 1988... the USS Caron (Destroyer) and the USS Yorktown (Cruiser) were approached by the Bezzavetnyy (Soviet Destroyer) and another vessel. After an attempt to drive the US vessels out of Soviet Waters with bumping... the USS Yorktown opened fire. A serious firefight ensued with both Soviet vessels being sank and both US vessels severely damaged. New reports is the US Destroyer had abandoned vessel halfway across the Black Sea.Video of the real incident that did not end in conflict: youtube /watch?v=SME4w037FgA---------- You have orders to prepare for battle, you and your crew have been ready and on stand by for 30 minutes. Engine spooled up. The radio news you have been listening to has confirmed that East and West Germany are officially at war with each other. With both sides demanding support from their powerful allies...and both Allies reluctant to take part. The border where you are has begun to steadily hear the sounds of battle in the distance. At one point on the distant road you see GDR T-34 and T-55s rolling down road, backed by some T-72s in the rear. It seems the GDR is reinforcing the Fulda Gap. Antov looks over at you, "They are going to get slaughtered. The 55's and 34's I mean. The West Germans have plenty of capability for fighting even us."
>>20102946"Keep an eye out for the silhouettes of Leopard tanks. Even a late model Leo 1 can be trouble, but the Leo 2's will be the real danger."
Make use of any mech infantry support you have they will come in handy.
Wont be long now.
We are a tank commander, but what is our rank? Do we have any subordinate tanks in our unit? What does our Division have in the way of support units?Adjust gunnery sights for 800 meters. Load HEAT.
I defect to the West. You all know the commies are going to get stomped by FREEDOM, might as well join the winning side!
We are a Sgt. in effective rank. With our two crew beneath us. Nothing more. We have officers above us who hate us.To clarify we are a little bit off the Fulda Gap barrier, behind 2 hills. Here as a "just in case."--------------HEAT loaded in with a knthnk from the auto loader. "Round loaded!" says Antov. Support units are in the form of mechanized infantry, limited anti air, and dug in artillery positions. There may or may not be air support.Orders come in over the radio. "If engaged, return fire." A series of explosions are heard rumbling much closer now. Smoke can be seen on the horizon as the sun sets... "I suppose the Germans got their due...well...which side we shall find out, no?" There is a small dot of a plane high in the sky. You take your binoculars out, it seems like a spotter plane. West German.
>>20103222"Thats a Spotter... In our Airspace... Get ready Mariya, we may or may not have to get moving soon."Mutter to ourselves: "Mother of God..."
Keep an eye on the plane, but do nothing. Our engines are warmed up, so if it's spotting for Artillery units, we can make a quick get-away.
Recon report is artillery flashes. Mariya already has the T-80 revving up.... the shells rain down half a KM away onto the road that had GDP forces. A few stray shells march into the Russian camp, damaging far flanking units. The radio is up with chatter. A tank commander, Markinov, speaks up, "Don't move!" he yells, "Accidental fire. Not aimed at us!" Another commander agrees... Antov looks at you, as the shells roar nearby, "Do you think they intentionally clipped us? Do they even know we're Russian...?"
>>20103470"Do you doubt our comrades in battle, Antov?"/give him a stern look
>>20103470"Dunno, might be both with those Capitalist assholes. Might be that they are scared of our T-80s, might be that they just drank to much beer to aim properly. I am mostly fine as long as they arent starting to throw around their nukes."
>>20103517Uh, you know hes talking bout the West Germans?
>>20103527>Being scared of T-80'sHaha, no. T-80U's or T-80UD's maybe, but the West German Leopard 2a4 outclasses everything else the Pact has.
>>20103629Weren't we driving a T-80U?
>>20103629Well, we are certainly a worthier target than those T 55's of the East Germans.
Your commanding officer roars over the radio, and insists that we have been intentionally attacked and orders the assault. Even though we had been prepared for defensive maneuvers... As per prior thread, we are to be on the front. Mariya gears up to move, and the tank begins moving on. "Sorry Sir. The entire force is behind our movements and I had to get us moving, his orders." she said, anticipating your anger over having not waited a moment. "I figure we have time to talk as our...tank gets stuck in a little up-hill snow, no?" she said as she used the wrong gear to lurch up the hill. Antov then turned and looked at you, using this time to talk, "You know damn well he is going to get us killed. Mariya is moving so he suspects nothing...but is there anything we can do, Comrade Mikhail?" You see out the view slats that the rest of the force is un-eagerly following your tank's lead.
>>20103709"You will carry out your orders and do your duty for the Motherland, or I will have the both of you executed for treason."
>>20103709"Shit. You know as well as i do that the Commander will get us court martialed if we dont follow orders...""Shit..."Bang with the hand against our armor, so hard it starts bleeding."Mariya, drive in that fucking snow. He thinks i am incompetent anyways, and he IS disregarding operational orders. Might as well play for time."
We are going to start the ww3, onwards comrades to war, Order the crew to move for the motherland !
>>20103797Are you writing, OP?Because I don't understand what we're supposed to do right now.
We cant disregard a direct order but we can question it.
rolled 15 = 15>>20103797>>20103709Radio command, request confirmation of attack orders - cite >stray< artillery shells, if possible, cite World War Three.
>>20103709Use the radio "Comrade Commander, our gears have seized due to the cold - we will need time to get it fully operational, sir!"To our guys - "This is going to start a nuclear war, the crazy bastard... if we are forced to move forwards, go as slowly as possible, we need to give High Command time to issue orders to stop this from going beyond the point of no return."
Comrades today will be a great day, for our motherland and for all the people of the world !Today is the day we will show the world their wrongs in that capitalist shit system they live.!WE WILL BREAK THROUGH THAT WALL, WE WILL TEACH THOSE NATO DOGS MEANING OF WARTHEY THOUGHT THEY COULD BULLY US TO SUBMISSION,TODAY WE WILL SHOW THEM RED ARMY BOWS TO NO ONE , TODAY WE SHOW THEM THE MIGHT OF THE SOVIET UNION !FORWARD COMRADES TO VICTORY.
"We are getting bogged down in some hard snow. Requesting confirmation on orders to advance in order to avoid stray artillery fire while resuming course. Over."
>>20104450>>20104313>>20103797Why do we have so much traitors in our ranks?>>20104388>>20103910>>20103750These guys speak the truth forward !
>>20104450second.>>20104516lack of idiocy. were it not for such quality in various soviet servicemen we would have been nuked to death a long time ago. all of us.
Looks like OP is dead.
>>20104546Exactly Comrade - we may be passionate socialist brothers seeking world unity, but that is redundant if the world we unite is a nuclear wasteland.For the Motherland, we should be willing to wait for High Command to issue orders, rather than allowing our idiotic comrade Commander single-handedly start World War 3 due to a botched artillery strike by the West Germans.>In-GameTurn on our radio, and begin singing our glorious national anthem as inspiration to our fellow soldiers!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVdVTVR-j0Q>captcha - October seeredYes Comrade Captcha, we should look back and see the Red Revolution of October 1917!
Severe thunder storm knocked my power out. Im back now.
>>20104546Let the earth burn in nuclear fires rather than to be a home of capitalist bastards.
>>20104708Welcome Back Commander!
>>20103085Considering the Soviet Union's GDP at this time was around 2.5 Trillion USD while the United States' was at roughly 4.862 Trillion USD you probably have a point.
After a short thought about loyalty or no... you request confirmation on this attack to your superior's superior. To which the bastard above you replies... "We were DIRECTLY shelled! Inform the regional command!" Mariya speaks up over the radio to you, "That bastard is trying to start a war!" An argument between our commander and his superior erupts over live radio (I lost is name and cant find it in the old posts, so as of this point his name is Zharkov. The guy above him is Dimitri.) There is a call from another tank group nearby, insisting that we should help our German allies. Another officer, unknown to you wants to stop for the safety of Russia and the world. It is then a broken accent comes over the civillian radio. In German and followed by poor Russian. The West Germans are offering amnesty to defecting East German and Warsaw Pact troops. For them to drive with their turret facing rearward, or come across on foot, or fly without counter measures and lights on, or have flags. Some sign that they are not combatants.
>>20104926Oh shit, this isn't just going to hell in a hand basket this is going to hell in a handbasket whilst being bathed by nuclear radiation.
Those bastards are trying to force our people to defect the union? This is the final line,comrades we go to war.Call the the group commander of the other tank group and tell him we will link up ASAPAsk the other officers name so that you can get him court martialed for cowardly acts when our allies are getting killed mercilessly.Tell mariya to link up with the tank group and coordinate the attack, it is time we act like a leader.
>>20104926This looks like no matter what we do, WW3 is coming. Well, we certainly cant refuse another order to attack from our superior. Listen to the radio chatter, do what is finally decided. Ignore the Germans, we might not want a nuclear war but we'd rather be damned than betraying our country.
>>20105033All of my nope. We are a really small fish, just wait what is decided in the end. No need to make ourselves a bigger target...
rolled 12 = 12>>20105033Yeah - Fuckit. If Command is going to start a nuclear war, then by Lenin we're going to end up climbing the chain.
>>20105066All the leadership. All the initiative. All the promotions.FOR THE GLORY OF MOTHER RUSSIA! FORWARD!
>>20105086>>20105066Finally some initiative , we will be heroes by the end of this comrades.
"Who cares about what the Idiot Germans are doing! Where are the Americans? Does anyone have positive ID on American positions? I have no desire to walk into a capitalist trap."
>>20104926reports so far are no contact of german fire on russian troops, thus no fire on us.as standing orders from Moscow we are not to engage unless engaged.but we cant do that with captain America- er strike that, captain Sovietica leading our detachment, since the fuckwit is a idiot. at least the other halfwit is a tactical idiot with a bleeding heart wanting to help our germans.unless the superior asks a open question on enemy fire or situation we are not to respond, since this conversation is between superiors and we are not allowed to intercede by protocol unless they have come up with a decision or the situation changes.the west German offer only ads gasoline on the fire of idiot superior and way to close and nearly on top of Russian camp fire, leaving standing orders as open to interpretation as possible.
>>20105125>>20105086>>20105066>>20105033 You finally come to a decision... you begin issuing commands to everyone in your group in an attempt to take command away from your superior. You begin relaying your orders to the other tank commander to link up. 2/3rds of the armor follow you after your inspirational orders. The other man has agreed to link up... just in time. Radio reports from GDR, they are begging for support. Their T-72s are being slaughtered by heavy armor and ATGMs. Your force rolls over the hill leaving the arguing command behind. Anton leans over and turns on the radio channel for a short time, putting on the Soviet National Anthem for broadcast to all. Your superior is drowned out by this as "your" force switches to a new channel for tactical relay. Jacob Donovan, a rather western name you admit, is the co-commander of this force. He speaks to you, "I don't think we should go to war with the entire west, but we surely need to help our comrades in arms to survive the Western armor. I have with me some limited mobile anti air, a few platoons of mobile infantry, and a few heavy and medium armor units. We should push hard." You look out your view slot, behind you 40+ tanks trundle to war. You are at the spearhead. Behind them follows some mobile infantry.
>Listen in on Command's bickering
>>20105333thus far it seems the germans have not deliberately fired on us. as of yet.and they have carefully (as a german, ie bluntly) avoided telling USSR troops to defect.we could try to screen the east germans in hopes of getting a cease fire or a delay for today at least on both sides.or we could most likely just start shooting and advancing westward till our tracks fall of as per soviet doctrine, and hope our actions started the war. else we either go down as POW or shot for desertion and treason.also how did the sentiment that we will follow whatever command decides got turned into lets do a mutiny and take over a entire tank collumn!
>>20105333Take that bottle of vodka we have in the tank for just such occasions, and take a swig. Then pass it around. Just a swig though - we don't want to be drunk.After that, organize tanks into platoons of three - One draws fire, other two flank. Spread mobile AA throughout tank group, have Motor Rifles be supported by two or three platoons.>Inspiring Speech>>Someone write an inspiring speech
>>20105333I can see the clusterfuck bombs already in freefall...
Thunderstorm is bad again, I need to AFK a good 20-30 min. Discuss battle tactics or what to do and when to do it....
>>20105383Because Command is being ineffective idiots, and they have not given us orders to stop and drive away.
rolled 53 = 53>>20105401Rolling for quality of vodka
Radio High Command, informing them that East German forces have reported contact with western forces, and we are moving forward in order to recon the situation.Request some of the mechanised infantry to head in advance of our force, see what they are able to spot.Radio the East German forces - order them to give you a situation report. What forces have they encountered? Have they come up against solely West German forces, or are American/British/French forces supporting them.Then relay this information back to High Command, and if they are being attacked by NATO (not just West German) forces, continue our advance and help save our East German comrades!
>>20105333Put our tanks between the German forces, but do only return fire if they're actually shooting us instead of one another.
>>20105467what do you expect that to accomplish? Without a clear sign that we are trying to deescalate the situation (a radio transmission to the west germans for example), what do you expect the enemy to do if they see a column of heavy armour rolling towards them, firing or not?
There is only one way out of this!Turn cannons to the back, roll up beetween the German forces and start the Ultimate Dance Party of Peace!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8anOsShcZw
always thought this quest was a bit sillysoviet high command back in the 80's had pegged the first 3 days worth of fighting would destroy 80% of thier forces in the fulda gap area and nessisitate the withdraw of all A Divisions and most of the B Divisions forcing the commitment of C Divisions-with only about a 3% chance of breaking throughtldr-the soviet had figured high loses and even they were appaled by the losses they would takeyeah yeah I know.its a quest..not supposed to be realistic. but as one of the guys here old enough to have remebered the cold war and served in the military at the time, kinda grates on my nerves
>>20105714check that...30% chance...not 3%
>>20105714and on the other side of the curtain nato, and sweden where afraid of the masses of soviets that would steamroll them.... i remember when each phonebook had a chapter called *when the war comes* about what to do
>>20105714didn't they also have plans on using tactical nukes on hamburg by the 3rd day of the war?
>>20105457This, except also broadcast on West German/all frequencies, requesting clarification from West German/NATO forces as to whether this is a local skirmish between German forces, as the Union of Socialist Soviet Republics does not want to be responsible for a general escalation in the current conflict.
>>20105714My father served in the soviet forces stationed in the GDR in the 70s early 80s, he also meant that the soviet forces stationed there were expected to last for about 24h should the war really start.
>>20105974Then your father was a glorious Soviet hero, and I wish we had more stalwart socialists with us in these times of capitalist greed and suffering.
>>20106055thanks anon, don't worry though, there is still hope...
>>20105875The Soviets? Probably in the 1960s under Sokolovsky. Under Ogarkov's reforms in the late '70s and the '80s, the Soviet military was revamped to fight a war without using nuclear weapons.If you are interested in more information on that, check out David Glantz's article under the section "The Counterrevolution in Military Affairs (1971–1985)"http://www.history.army.mil/books/OpArt/russia3.htm
*is sad that the OP died*
I had issues again and I am again apologetic for it. Tomorrow I will pick up with this game following the posts today. Sorry everyone. See you 12-1 ish noon. US Central
>>20107266Archived it for you OP!http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/20102946/
>>20105974This is why we should fucking defect, but NO, railroading commie GM is railroading commie who likes to railroad.
>>20108931>railroad I'm not the ones posting GLORY TO SOVIET UNION in mass. Majority opinions win even if one opinion makes more sense. I would defect in a heart beat it if were up to me. Also sageing my own thread. As we are not active right now.
Did someone say TANK RUSH?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm5QxCHbgLA
>>20109664That's retarded. If I had 7000 proxies and I spam "kill myself" 200 times do I win?
Bumping in hopes of further Glorious Expositions
TANKS! DID SOMEONE SAY TANKS! TANKS!
NATO tanks vs USSR.