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Argh, I'm sorry it's late tonight folks. Hopefully people are still here to play!

It's time for another go at Civilization Quest! Last time saw some pretty major events, like the lot of you actually all agreeing on something AND completely bamboozling yours truly.

Let's see if I can get back in the groove again this thread!

Previous thread is archived HERE: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/20866972/

The whole shebang is HERE: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Red%20White%20and%20Britfag

Aaand your music for this evening is HERE because why not: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Av2r162wYA&feature=related

Who's ready to play?
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With bells, I was. BELLS! But oh wells.

I am ready, Britfag.
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Yes! I was afraid it wasn't going to happen today!
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I'm here, harr!
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im here
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I couldn't miss today. I'm terribly interested to see how our proposal for a tribal marriage goes off if it's even accepted.
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>>20894716
Yes, we shall see which wench wins the favor of Trym Wolfsbane
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> Yaaay! People! I feel loved now. Okay, let's party.

The tribe is at first taken aback by your offer of joining the tribes by marriage. They turn to talking amongst themselves, then ask for a little while to think about things. While they are gone, you are offered the village's hospitality!

What will you do?
A) Spy around and see what their technology is like
B) Spy on their village and ability in a fight
C) Try to gain a feeling for the mood and thoughts of the tribe
D) Try to spy on the discussions
E) Try to spread malcontent within their villagers, to try and entice them away
F) Just enjoy their hospitality
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>>20894816
C. I see no drawback to this. Merely showing interest in the reception of our offer and the other tribe couldn't possibly hold it against it.

And if they do accept it, we'd have a slight leg up as far as working towards a greater unity by addressing their problems up front or at least in a more timely manner.
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>>20894816
I would say C, we're not here to spy [not like we're threatened by their army or their tehnological achievements].
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>>20894816

C)
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>>20894816
C is the safest option. I'm up for it.
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>>20894914
>>20894861
>>20894855
>>20894844

Two threads, two unanimous votes? This... this feels wrong.
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>>20894932
I bet that Brit's left that option as a trap, waiting to spring some horrible event
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>>20894944
Making me all paranoid, anon.
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>>20894957
>Oh shit, something bad's gonna happen, let's change votes!
>Into what, mate?
>KILL THEM ALL!

Something like that
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I think I'm hearing some wedding bells up in here.

Let's settle on a clan name for the new combined house.

Clan Wolfsbane, Lords of the River and Slayers of Spirits?
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>>20894944
> Oh I wouldn't do that! ...Would I?
> Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha...
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>>20895019
> You forgot 'Aggrandisers of Selves'

The general mood of the village is one of cautious optimism. Apparently word of your discussions has spread and the people, who look all fairly hungry, look eager to get some food at last. Still though, there is an undercurrent of mistrust toward you and you suspect many of them blame you for their current fortunes. You also gather that the tribe has no spirits that they worship and they find Rina unsettling.

The elders of the tribe finally return with their counter-offer. They agree to the union on the condition that Trym and his wife live with them for the spring and summer and that their first-born child is raised in their tribe.

How will you respond?
A) Reasonable counter-offer
B) Extortive counter-offer
C) Accept
D) Decline and make a new offer
E) Decline and leave
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>>20895181
A)

He is a child of the river, he will be raised in both villages. He will learn the ways of the river so as to learn how to be a true river lord. He shall spend the harsh summer and forgiving fall in your village, and the cold winter and the upbringing spring in ours.

(this will give us a handle on his education, and them on his hunting skills and what not)
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>>20895181
I don't like their offer, particularly the "living there for the spring and summer", because it would let us very vulnerable if we are attacked during those months.

I actually would like for the new village to become a part of our "domain", with us sharing step by step more resources, cultural, religious and political values. Sending our first born into their village would just create a future tribal chief which wouldn't be our own.

In short, I would go for A, but I'm really stumped for ideas. Anyone?
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>>20895332
also, Trym will live in our village with his wife. Ours needs to be the center of power. He will visit his son however.
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>>20895364
one last thing, I add on they will be allowed to bring one of their midwives to birth the child, it will be on our ground, but before all of our gods. We will also build a temple in our city to whichever god they pay homage to.
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>>20895398
They don't have a god
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>>20895431
we'll offer to build them temples to ours in their village.
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>>20895431
You what this makes me think? We please our gods by making new worshipers out of these people. They can build shrines, and in turn, we work on turning our shrines into temples. So we'll still be the more favored followers.
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>>20895461
We should wait on that, they seem wary of our deities for the moment.
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>>20895477
By temple I mean not the shitty lean-to type things we got going on so far, like stone, or, if we research it, clay bricks.
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>>20895181

A. I find nothing wrong with this at present since we've already subdued the one tribe we have had hostile contact with and we're building relations with this one but I would request that they do a couple of things.

Firstly, accept teachings about our spirits and cultural ways.
Secondly, if any new hostilities should arise during the time that Trym is with their village they shall send him and a fair number of their warriors to assist us.

As such, their demands be met and they'll be accorded such rights as we grant ourselves and all of the other benefits such as trade and increased knowledge of the world around us.

Latin Rights, colony, eh? They help us, we make them better for it.
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>>20895485
I concede that point, but I think given time and a bit of introduction to the amazing things our spirits let us do, they'd be willing to worship them as well.

We're gonna bind them to us through marriages and cultural dominance. Not an over night affair, I mind you, but a steady and peaceful one.
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Hello everybody and hello Britfag.

Really nice to see so many people here today! Let's hope the quest fellowship grows just like our village.
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>>20895512
This sounds like the best way to go. Among the things we could give them over time are our discoveries in agriculture, to help them acquire food through more means than massacring the deer herd.
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>>20895364
I'm not sure if this is A or D, but I just know I agree with this. Trym is our tribe's greatest hero, he stays with US.
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>>20895604
We're already giving them agriculture as part of this deal. The marriage thing just kinda popped up, really.
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>>20895642
Yeah, but perhaps we will be ahead of them in some departments of agriculture and we can share our new findings as part of our alliance
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Opinion is really divided here folks. I have a couple of options for you. Either I take one of your proposals that they'd be most likely to listen to, or I wait for you to come to a consensus. How do you want to play this?
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>>20895659
Good call, good call. In the long run I'd suggest not giving them advanced weapons of any kind obviously, but food is what they're really after right now and it'll ingratiate us with them. I see no reason currently why they can't become part of our expanding tribe with time.
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>>20895663

Guys, i'm going to push for my latin rights colony. And the upside of having Trym in their village is that he can be the focal point of our cultural exchange telling stories of our triumphs to these people.
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>>20895736
Aye!
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>>20895691
We play our cards right, and we might one day form a nation out of the three tribes we have so far, without any further bloodshed between us. I agree with making them dependent on us for agricultural advancement, but we have to make sure they don't get the advantage on us.
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>>20895736
But Trym is a warrior! He is the mediator between us and the Spirits! Trym makes stories, he doesn't tell them! What if some new spirit shows up that wants to fuck with us like the White Wolf did? Trym needs to stay with us.
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>>20895765

That, my friend, is a tightrope we have to walk to form our future. It won't be easy, but think of the advantages it offers. I won't just the gun about the copper tribe, but this one is promising at least.
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>>20895828
THe copper tribe will probably require some kind of trail by combat... I have an idea.
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>>20895828
Pardon, jump the gun.

As for the spirits, Groza has extended his respect to our entire tribe, Chani came to us of her own accord and Hrunti would be fine with this, I think. He is the spirit of the hunt and if there is one thing we do well, it is hunt.

As for other spirits, well, perhaps the tribe will need to be more self sufficient because Trym will not be around forever.
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>>20895828
Exactly, we have a really good opportunity to become our own kind of Rome, which would be pretty fucking awesome
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>>20895875
Damn...
I hear what you're saying, I really do, I just hate the idea of Trym staying with foreign tribe, who've done nothing but insult us our entire relationship. I'll tentatively support your idea, but maybe we should have some scouts check them out every once in a while, without their knowledge- just to make sure all is well.
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>>20895512
The elders of the tribe agree to assist you, should the need arise for their warriors and for Trym to return, during his stays with them. They are sceptical about the tribe's 'spirits' however, but agree to at least listen, if they are taught. They will send a woman of suitable character, as well as a small escort, to your village, if you provide the raft to pick them up, next full moon.

Will there be any other business?
A) Yes...
B) No. <End Turn>
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>>20895958
Nope. No mo' business.
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>>20895958
B, that's it for now
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Rolled 23

>>20895958
B) Alright fellow River Brothers, may this be the beginning of a beautiful time of fellowship.
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>>20895958
I don't like the terms, but ok.

it seems like we held all the cars and they bluffed their way into a better position. Oh well. Now on to bringing the copper tribe into the fold, under the banner of Wolfsbane.

(also, our warrior priest Gerin I think he is names, we need to give him a last name so that he may start his own clan. I vote Forgeborn)
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>>20895958

B)
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>>20896032
Won't this promote quarrels between clans if we have multiple of them in our tribe? I mean this could start into the vague direction of labour specialisation (like warrior clans and crafter clans and so on) which might help later on.
I can't into politics though, ain't my turf.

How about instead of Forgeborn maybe Battleforged or Battleborn? Having your status or character determined / born through battle. Might fit, considering he is the warrior priest. Forgeborn, to me, sounds more like a craftsclan.
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Rolled 52

>>20896112

>Battleborn

Hopefully we won't make the faux-pas of naming another person in our tribe 'Greymane'
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>>20896151
Hrunti's priest would be Greymane.

Fuuuuu-
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>>20896151
Oh, you just had to go there didn't you? I hoped nobody would notice.
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>>20896112
I'm all for it if it means specialists, then maybe we can finally have an organized army instead of just sending out untrained warriors. Plus, having set groups of healers and hunters could be very cool.
Also, I like Battleborn. Gerin Battleborn. Neat.
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>>20896112
You're right, I say Bloodborn then, has a nice ring to it and sounds battle-y.

Also if we have a powerful enough leader (which I think we do in Trym) then this won't be a problem. They will become banners and vassal clans of our clan. Think of it in terms of Game of Thrones, we're the Starks and they're the Boltons and the Dustins. We should create more established clans to govern ourselves, with Trym at the top tying it together with his bloodline. They won't be so inclined to fight if they are literally going to war against their brothers and cousins.
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>>20896189
Hold your horses, we don't even have an Oligarchic system and you're talking about feudalism? Plus, we're barely over 400 with both the villages
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>>20896189
Also our our political system naturally progresses and Trym becomes for all intents and purposes Lord of the Riverlands, Warden of the Planes, and King of the United House Wolfsbane (I like adding tittles) then we will have a very large power base with which to draw from.
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Rolled 48

>>20896189
Eh, Bloodborn seems a bit...Liefeldian.
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>>20896213
I have big dreams. In the immortal words of Theodore Roosevelt:

"Far better is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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>>20896213
True enough, but a specialization of labor would probably be a good thing to do soon. The haphazard system we currently have will eventually fair since everybody is a jack of all trades and a master of none.
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>>20896239
Is this about Game of Thrones again? I feel left out.

>>20896245
Oh god, the tribe already has its first politician.

>>20896213
I agree, it's early, but there's nothing wrong with setting some really basic foundations for changing our government and stuff in the far future.
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>>20896280
Anybody else notice how we're kinda taking on roles in this game? Just something I've noticed with some of the answers and fluff you guys put out there to argue your points.

Makes for a good game, I think.

Captcha: Spicsl Thought

Yes Captcha, that is a special thought.
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>>20896280
Realistic foundations! I do not think you have ever met me!

Muah ha ha! Muah ha ha!

Also I think looking into how to more effectively make use of our god's power might be of good use. Eventually we could possibly set of a place of learning for how to do it, because obviously (as Trym proved) it is part our own power we use when channeling the spirits. If we figure out how to use this power without the spirit's help we might be able to find the first parts of mysticism, and eventually magic.
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>>20894544
>read the whole thing in one sitting
>last thread says the next thread is on Thursday
>No Thread entire Thursday (kept checking throughout the day)
>Stop checking for thread
>At the same fucking time, you start the thread
God damn.

Anyway, mad props to you for doing a Civ game for so long. They always tend to die after 3 or 4 threads. Shit sucks, especially since how popular they are. Why do GMs abandon them?


Also, I noticed that we never named our Priest of White Wolf spirit. He should be a hero unit, but he it not. Someone please give him a name and description (I suck at that)
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>>20896380
Ragnar Wulfaz. Looks like a bro.
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>>20896325
Well, did History in college, so that's why I am captain Buzzkill for the sake of sort-of-realism [we have gods in this game after all, I'm not absurd]. I used my powers for good too, I'm the one that suggested a revision of the population growth mechanics to Brit. Damn, I should start wearing a name in these threads, me thinks

My opinion is that yes, specialized activities are completely ok and beneficial. But "we should plan ahead for future government system" is kinda awkward to do. We might know what is there to come, but the people whose fates we're controlling don't. Also, we should go step by step because the risk of our government system to get corrupted and fall onto our heads is big. Just look at the late Roman Republic and you can understand what I'm talking about
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>>20896380
We have Tyrm Wolfbane, Gerin Battleforges, Rina Clearspring, and our priest of the white wolf spirit:

Derrik Silverbrow, one of the oldest in our tribe, and believed to be the most connected to the spirits. As each passing year goes by he comes more grizzles and wrinkly, his body small and decrepit, but when risen to action shows sup rising agility and movement. His hair flows behind him in a man of white, and both his eyes glow milky and clouded. It is generally believed among the tribe that because he is so close to death he has a closer connection to the spirit world and it's inhabitants, names the spirit of the white wolf.

He had no family nor children, and lives in a hut by himself constantly experimenting in herblore from thing he has gathered himself from the forest.
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>>20896325
Yea, I noticed that too. Personally I'm mostly leaning into research and buildan, agriculturan. Too nervous to partake in the fights well, and not crazy enough to be into politics. (looking at you, Refrek)

>>20896380
Yea, I find it great that Britfag sticks with it for so long, even though in some sessions we barely had 3 guys partaking.
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>>20896380
Felwr a strong but agile man not born into the tribe but found with a pack of wolves during the summer. The elders knowing felwr weird upbringing knew that he would be the man to be the priest for the wolf spirit. Felwr is super loyal like a dog and will fight to the death for anyone whom he considers a friend.
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Before you make your choices for the next turn, let me just say that you guys are amazing. This kind of planning and fluff-generation is what I've been hoping for since the first threads.

> All the feels /tg/. All the feels.

By the way, it's spring. Keep this in mind as this is the last time I warn you that you may want to plant crops now. When you're larger and have things like division of labour, this will be automatic, but for now, it's manual.

EVENT
Disaster! A clumsy accident in the store house destroyed the jars of berry liqueur that you had stockpiled! The village is facing a serious booze shortage!


Action Points: TWO

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources
D) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
E) Hold a cultural event
F) Craft specific objects
G) Other
H) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)

RULES UPDATE
From now on, until research or cultural advance changes things, research will be conducted on the basis of solving an immediate problem. You have no research structure or forward-planning ability as yet, so your vision and reach are only in your immediate surroundings. You can direct your wise ones to solve a problem, but otherwise, advances in science and research will not be possible. Once you have progressed to a point where better research practices are available, this will change.
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>>20896443
we would have more people but I can't get here until 6 most of the time. Eastern time
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>>20896427
I would say the danger of our government growing corrupt would be large, if our population is large. If we add the copper tribe into our own we will number as just over five hundred individuals, not exactly a huge number of people to govern. Also with no formal military there is no way for said king to enforce corruption. hat is why we should elevate the Battleforged to a clan status equal to the Wolfbanes so that they are of equal power and standing. Think of it as a simple check and balance system against each other.
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>>20896472
G) we should plant those seeds I guess.
C) gather berries for more berry liquor
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>>20896472

A) south into the hills to search for new resources
G) plant our crops
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>>20896472
Take care of the liqueur incident, clean up and do whatever is necessary to avoid getting drunk villagers.

And plant them crops
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>>20896452
Yeah, its awesome.
The only reason why I even bothered to read the archives was because how many threads there were already.
Not sure if I will be able to participate if the threads are regularly at this time, it is pretty damn late for me right now.

>>20896422
I like the name
>>20896438
I feel that he should have been a hunter in younger days, otherwise this is great.

>>20896472
G. Name our Wolf Spirit priest and make him a hero unit.
G. plant seeds
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>>20896472
D) We need to solve the problem of keep track of our supplies more efficiently. To this end I say we look into making a simple writing system to record what belongs to who.
G) Planet den crops


For our next turn may I suggest:
F) In order to facilitate relations with our new brother tribe may I suggest we build a permanent road between the two. THis will help with trade and reduce the time it takes to get between the two.

Also, how long till the calfs are born for those heifers?
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Rolled 73

All this wolf imagery is making me think of a certain important house from a certain awesome series...

You thought I meant Stark, did ya, ya sillies.
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>>20896526
I'm an idiot, change the first thing to "get more berries"
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>>20896472
Dammit, I got something in my eye! I'm not getting sentimental!

G) Plant the plants! Can we increase field size at the same time?
and I'm not feeling too good about the booze shortage being a problem. 2 or 3 years with booze and we are already a tribe of alcoholics? That's so human.
C) gather some berries for booze.
Though I'd like to look into fishing nets, that should be possible, as it could be considered a problem to be solved, getting bigger numbers of fish.
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Rolled 94

>>20896531
Seconding this.
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>>20896520
G. Plant them crops.

and

H. I'd like to hear what the elders have to say.
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>>20896531
Second this. I don't think a road is necessary though, since we're connected by the river.
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We should upgrade the shrines soon so that they are all at the same splendor.

Also, we should offer an expertly made bow and arrows with copper tips to Hrunti just because it seems to be something that he would value being a hunter and all.
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>>20896582
Apart from one of the elders, who is sitting in the corner sobbing and talking to an empty drinking beaker about how "Everything will be alright, just stay with me; we'll get you some of daddy's berry juice soon," the elders seem mostly content. Most of their conversation pertains to wanting more grandkids for their respective houses and anticipating the bride the other tribe will send upriver.

One of the elders points out that with two 'other tribes', you should really think of a name to differentiate yourselves soon...
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>>20896857
Well if we need a name for our city then may I suggest Greencreek. Or we can simply name it Wolf's Hollow, since we all pay homage to Trym anyway.

Poor crying elder, can we take an action to give him a hug?

Also I think we should think about sending emissaries over to the copper tribe. Possible with Gerin, since he is the priest of a spirit of battle I believe they will respect him. if possible Trym should go to. We should either attempt to get Trym another wife, or marry of Gerin.
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Rolled 59

>>20896857
I vote we call our new In-Laws the River Brothers, and the copper guys something either having to do with their crow god or their lion god.
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>>20896857
Right on.
G. Plant Crops
and
C. More berries.

I suppose we can name the tribe and have a "festival" for makin' babies next turn.
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>>20896857
I've been thinking we could name ourselves what Hrunti first called us when we confronted him so long ago. The Long Fangs.
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>>20896954
I was suggesting names for the city not our tribe, the tribe can be called The Long Fangs, and the city Wolf's Hollow.
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>>20896954
That is actually a pretty good idea. I second The Long Fangs. I just hope it doesn't frighten anybody away from wanting to deal with us openly. It does sound a bit.. threatening. But otherwise, it is pretty awesome.
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Rolled 72

>>20896954
Second this name for our tribe.
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>>20896988
Our village could be Wolf's Fang, sounds kinda cool
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>>20896988
I like spines idea second that.
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>>20896857

Hey, are we going to name Hrunti's priest yet?
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>>20897053
I'm still pulling for Ragnar Wulfaz. He looks like a bro.
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>>20897053
I'm pulling for my idea, with the added fact he was a hunter in his younger days.
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The Long Fangs tribe it is!


Turn Report

Population: 154 (96 elders and children)
Food: 7/15
Morale: 6/15

Known Food Sources: Average deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, Crude Instruments, Rough berry liqueur, Tribal Militia

The skies have cleared and the snow has melted. Green leaves are seen on the trees and the sounds of spring are everywhere.

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river
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>>20897097
I support your too. He has a good description.
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I believe it is time for religion. Time for dat ceremonial burial and missionaries to bring in more disgusting shit eating foreigners.
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>>20897144
The tribe spends the time until the wedding planting the fields, sowing a good portion of the crop gathered last winter. It's worth noting that the seeds from the plants are not particularly palatable, for all they are edible. The tribe has yet to hit upon a way to make them truly tasty.

Although several of the tribe do leave to fetch berries from the bushes, they find to their horror that the bushes only have flowers on them. In their search, they disturb a nest of bees nearby and the gatherers are forced to flee, plastering themselves in river mud when they return, at Rina's suggestion, so that the little magic in the mud can soothe the stings.

The sobbing elder is given a hug.
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>>20897203
EVENT
The tribe sends a raft down river in time for the full moon, returning a few days later with a small contingent of villagers from the other tribe, including one unarmed woman by the name of Syfron. Several of the River Brother tribesmen who escorted her look very jealous of Trym. It's not hard to see why; between her fair hair and clear eyes, as well as a pretty face and unashamed manner, she is very attractive, if a little thin from hunger. She comes barefoot and clad lightly in sun-bleached hides, scraped clean of any fur.

The day before the wedding however, the tribe has an unexpected visitor. The first anyone knows of this is when the few men and women who were outside the village return in a hurry, some holding hands and giving one another loving looks, others casting flowers on the ground for a strange woman to walk upon. The woman in question is unusual, but possesses an almost unearthly beauty to her. Her skin is slightly darker than any of the village, her hair long and darkly lustrous. Her figure is generously proportioned and she wears strange clothes, utterly unlike the hides the tribes wear. She introduces herself as Yeneth, while those she walked in with sneak off to who knows what mischief. She claims she is the spirit of love and if the tribe will honour her, she will give her blessing to Trym and Syfron's union.

How will the tribe respond?
A) Refuse and have Rina do it in the name of Chani
B) Accept
C) Ask how she should be honoured
D) Other
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>>20897203
Gentlemen, I suggest we carry fire back to those bees to smoke them out and destroy their home. Upon destroying their home, I suggest we eat the inside of their nest because that's what we do, right?

Who knows, maybe it will taste awesome and stuff or something? Nobody can really say, really.
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>>20897356
C)
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>>20897356
C), sounds like a good idea

>>20897375
Actually it was our fault to send people to harvest berries when there aren't any
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>>20897356
>C) Ask how she should be honoured
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Rolled 66

>>20897356
C)
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>>20897356
C. Might as well get some background on the spirit of love.

Besides that, I don't see why Chani would be too put off by Yeneth blessing the union. Two spirits, two different realms.
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>>20897356
C unless she turns out to be a bitch, or Chani doesn't like her, in which case tell her to get steppin'.
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>>20897402
True, very true. But Honey. Honey is within that nest. And honey tastes awesome. But since our tribe doesn't know that, I think, I just figured I'd throw out an idea.
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>>20897356
Lets get a pantheon up in this bitch.

We have War, The Hunt, Healing and Nature, and now Love and Fertility.

All we need is a god of death and a sun god and we'll have a nice complete set.

oh and C
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>>20897455
Actually that's a great idea! But learning apiculture is gonna take some time. The reward is awesome though, a food that never goes bad! Therefore we definitely should go for it in the near future
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>>20897485
And a food that we can ferment into mead... so we can still have our alcohol.
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>>20897356
>She comes barefoot and clad lightly in sun-bleached hides, scraped clean of any fur.
>scraped clean of any fur

Anyways...
>>20897433
Might make sense to have both bless the marriage. The new girl for the love and Chani for healthy children.

>>20897455
Not unreasonable. People will try to eat anything they come into contact with.
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>>20897510
> The hides are scraped clean, you fool, not her. Seriously, what made you even think that?

Yeneth looks on the shrines built to Chani and Groza and shakes her head, instructing the tribe to build her a place where she can be 'appropriately honoured'. Like Chani, she likes gifts of beautiful things, from flowers, to sweet-smelling smoke burning in the temple, to trinkets and jewellery. She also asks that only beautiful people, who have not taken a partner, may serve as her priests and priestesses. Rina notices something to one side as Yeneth basks in the attention heaped upon her. She named herself. All other spirits the tribe has encountered have asked to be named. Further, she already has such a rule as the one governing her priests. What this could mean, she has no idea.

Will the tribe agree to build such a shrine to Yeneth?
A) Agree
B) Refuse
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>>20897770
I don't like this guys. She just seems so manipulative. And she named herself? The fuck? Doesn't smell right. I'm going B.
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>>20897770
C) ask what will happen if we refuse.
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>>20897819
Seconded
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>>20897770
>>20897801

Yeah, Rina is perceptive in this matter.
If we agree, then her demands will become gradually bigger and more, even going as far as prohibiting us from worshiping other spirits or demanding that we make her the most important one.

She is a huge narcissist it seems.
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>>20897770
That's because I prefer my women fur-less.

>>20897801
Yea, something smells fishy here, and it's not the furs. Gonna have to say B). We shouldn't completely refuse her but I don't like the way she demands stuff.
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>>20897801
Lets not get too hasty, this is a spirit of super natural power. Lets ask what happens first then we can make an informed decision.

At worst we can have Gerin and Trym work together to kill her and make an offering to the other gods of her corpse on a funeral pyre. Then eat her flesh too or something.
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>>20897770
Britfag, may we ask her a question or two before we decide on this?
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>>20897882
What's to say she'll tell the truth though? I say we check with the other spirits, see if they know a thing or two about this. Is that a possibility Britfag?
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>>20897882
I agree with josh
>>20897881
I don't think we should eat any flesh
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>>20897882
Should have just added this to my last post.

But going by what we know so far, spirits don't name themselves. That said, she must have been named by another tribe, perhaps. And if that is the case, what happened to that tribe which brought her to us?

I'm leaning towards B on this though, unless she can answer how she got her name and why she feels comfortable to simply walk amongst us as she has.
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>>20897914
Hey, waste not want not.
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I question what if she is a false god or maybe even a human acting like a god.
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>>20897914
*grumble grumble* No eating god's flesh *grumble* all I want is a little cannibalism *grumble*
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>>20897951
Well she had an obvious effect on the people, so I do think she's a spirit.
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>>20897962
I vote we kill her, she's gonna bring nothing but trouble. It's not a good wedding unless we slay at least one god.
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You people are getting very aggressive, we should just wait to see what she's all about. The fact that she already has a name does not make her evil, same for her requirements of priests
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>>20897978
Won't killing her sour our relationship with the Tribe down the river because clearly they worship her in some way.
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>>20897978
We can't kill spirits. what the hell are you talking about?
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>>20897978
On the other hand, you can't kill a spirit permanently, so if we do kill her now, on the day of this big important wedding, it may be cursed later on, or something like that.
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>>20898032
Trym hasn't lost a fight yet, and Brit never explicitly said that we can't kill spirits. And hey, don't know till you try.

I vote murder!

Also Cannibalism!

Maybe some heathen orgies too!
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I think we should accept what is wrong with one more God and her demands are that much.
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>>20898020
You know, that's a solid argument.

There actually is nothing that says spirits cant name themselves and perhaps, just like regular people, spirits have their own personalities and such. Maybe she is a bit over the top about herself, but she has done nothing wrong other than specify who she wants as her followers.

I'll change my vote to A and as was stated previously, if fit hits the shan, we still have Hrunti, Chani and Groza to help us. Besides that, she can already make our people feel... well, love. So who knows?
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>>20898020
>>20898065

This.
Are you people concerned about her naming herself?

I'm more concerned about her bossy nature and that we shouldn't feed it, else she will think she is superior to all else. If she acts like equal to other spirits, I have no problem with her
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The elders did say they wanted more grandchildren and what could help us have more pregnancies than a fertility goddess.
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>>20898065
Ok, I vote A too. If she becomes too much of a problem we can always keep the whole murder / cannibalism as a back up.
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>>20898094
I'm not going to have the tribe become a cult to some love goddess, which, maybe I'm blowing it out of proportion, is what this feels like. Some bossy goddess who can control how we feel? And can think for herself enough to name herself? No.
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>>20898084
That's where I was going with the spirits all having their own personalities part.

She is bit bossy, I cannot deny that, but who is to say that she would be a bad spirits to have regardless? And as I also said, we still have the other three spirits to help against her if she ever gets out of line.

Ergo, A. Build her a shrine.
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>>20898127
It has to be a nice shrine.
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>>20898118
That's why we just play it cool for now. We'll meet her first set of demands, but tell her she gets no more than the other gods. If it becomes too much of a problem we can simply kill her mortal form and ask our gods to keep her at bay in the spirit realm.

Trust me, I am not letting this tribe become a cult unless it is to a god of death.
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>>20898144
I don't know I would mind a cult that wasn't about killing people those are so cliche.
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>>20898118
The other spirits think for themselves too. They aren't under our control whatsoever past the fact that they seem to enjoy being honored.

Granted they don't use their powers on us unless asked, but who is to keep them from doing so if they wanted. And regardless of whether we accept her or not, she could still ruin our tribe with her powers.

Just because we choose not to accept her doesn't mean she doesn't exist to destroy our tribes fertility.
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>>20898144
Alright... but I'm keeping my eye on her. And I still say we take a sidebar with the other spirits and see what they have to say.
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>>20897906
>>20897882
Yeneth kind of wants a response right now. If you want her blessing on the marriage, you need to give her an answer now. There's nothing to stop you consulting with the spirits later however.
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>>20898188
You are right about that Mojo
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>>20898181
A cult to the god of death is not about killing people, we ensure that their souls safely make it to the afterlife. We do not kill because it is we want to, but because it is their time to die.
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>>20898216
A. Yes

But still consult with the other spirits later.

I think that is what we've come down to, right gents?
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>>20898216
Then I vote A
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>>20898216
> Sage for addendum

So what exactly is the consensus? At the moment, I can't make out if the vote is, "Refuse. Then kill, cook and eat her," or "Accept and do as she asks."
>>
A)
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>>20898251
Changing to
A) Accept
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>>20898224
Nah,
2 edgy 4 me

>>20898251
accept, I guess
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>>20898216
... a wary A
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>>20898216
Lets go with A. Worst that can happen is we become god killers.
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Rolled 64

>>20898251
Accept...but this bitch smells like Aphrodite...and following her advice never ended well...
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>>20898282
We got the Trojan war because of Aphrodite speak for yourself.
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Rolled 47

>>20898307
Exactly, I don't want to end up like Troy!
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>>20898347
Ummm... wrong thread sunny.
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>>20898347
Run for your life. random post get the women and children to saftey
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Rolled 18

>>20898347
Throw Trym at it, he can kill anything.
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>>20898390
Honestly I don't doubt that this is true. I feat the day that Trym grows too old to fight. That is part of the reason I suggested getting the man married. Maybe then he'll be able to have some kids who we can teach to be as good of warriors as he is.
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>>20898402
I think that the priest of Groza will be a good fighter as well being that is the god of war.
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>>20898277
Pfff. Let's face it folks; been there. Done that. Don't think it'll be so easy in the future though. Even gods need time to find their feet.

>>20898282
>>20898307
> Implying war is a good thing
> Implying war is a bad thing
> Implying following Aphrodite's advice didn't lead to Fun™

Yeneth seems delighted at the tribe's acceptance of her. Before she begins the ceremony to bind Trym and Syfron, she asks after the other spirits the tribe worships and claims she will make a point of visiting Chani. She seems very eager to talk about herself, but first, she begins the ceremony.

Compared to what was planned, once Yeneth takes over, the small, to-the-point ceremony of "This woman is Trym's, this man is Syfron's, anyone who wants either better be prepared for a beating from the other," gets turned into a lavish affair with declarations of undying love, small children throwing fresh flowers over the couple, music, dancing, plenty of food and drink. Getting anything done quickly becomes impossible for the day and the new couple (slightly confused by all the fuss) and Yeneth become the centres of attention. The following morning, the spirit is gone, but not without leaving a wedding gift. A shining, pale drinking bowl with carvings along the outside is left in the new couple's hut. The elders and wise ones have never seen such a bright metal before. It's heavy too, but not excessively so. Trym and Syfron are both confused even more, but it is generally agreed that they should keep the gift.
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>>20898402
>>20898421

We need proper warriors who train and spar erry day.
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>>20898459
Well... that went surprisingly well.
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>>20898460
Well to get a standing army first we need a surplus in population.
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Rolled 47

>>20898459
Wow...Yeneth actually did good...we may have found the rare female version of the Bro, the Sis.

>Captcha: Note: Tmples

...Working on it, captcha.
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>>20898459
Mother trucker! It's tin, she left us a tin bowl...

sweet beautiful tin, oh how good it is to see you

>>20898460

Devouts of Groza should be out most powerful warriors, and besides that we need a fairly well trained militia.
.
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>>20898561
If it is tin, or even bronze for that matter, we should get her temple up and running with a priestess so we can divine where she got it from.

The bronze age (potentially) cometh!
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>>20898561
Oh you wish. Hate to piss on the party, but describing things in generics just results in mis-understandings. The bowl is silver. Useless, but pretty, just like the offerings she wants. I urge to you consider the implications of her.

> Enough hints! Turn action!


Action Points: TWO

A) Send out scouts (specify direction)
B) Send some hunters out to hunt game and catch fish
C) Gather resources
D) Have your wise ones try to solve a problem
E) Hold a cultural event
F) Craft specific objects
G) Other
H) Ask the elders for advice (No cost)
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>>20898811
I knew it was silver! Not like Britfag would actually give us something useful just like that.

D) Try to come up with better methods of catching fish (i.e. nets) as we have to rely more on them and crops for now.
and
H) for now since I don't really know what else
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>>20898811

A) lets head up to the northern mountains/hills and look for resources

D) better fishing
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>>20898811
G) get a priestess for Yeneth
D) fishing nets
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>>20898866
Second
>>
Don't forget about medicine people!

So Medicine and fuck-me-if-I-know-it's-fucking-late
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Rolled 4

>>20898866
>>20898887
Third
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>>20898811
*begins sobbing with that one elder who doesn't have any liquor*

I hate you Britfag!

Also D) better nets because we don't have enough fish
G) get that girl a priest.
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>>20898914
Love you too.


Turn Report

Population: 154 (96 elders and children)
Food: 7/15
Morale: 6/15

Known Food Sources: Average deer herd, fishing river, wild fruit trees and bushes
Known Resources: Tall timbers (5 days away), Clay (2 days away), Malachite (2 days away, over the river)
Technology: Copper spears and knives, advanced stone and wood tools, hide-working, fish-spears, clay pots, crude cold-weather clothes, basic rafts, serviceable bows, copper tools, hollow-log canoes, Copper scale jackets, basic plank shields, Crude carts
Science: Family wisdom, basic natural lore, crude wound care, basic food preservation, basic navigation, crude map-making, crude agriculture, the wheel, basic animal husbandry
Architecture: Turf-roof huts, basic carpentry, crude wooden palisade
Civil: Family Houses
Culture: Family stories, bone trinkets, heroic reverence, spirit worship, Crude Instruments, Rough berry liqueur, Tribal Militia

The skies have cleared and the snow has melted. Green leaves are seen on the trees and the sounds of spring are everywhere.

Known Landmarks
A river beside the village
Rapids downstream
Flowing fruit tree glade
Berry bush thicket
Wolf Oak
Open grasslands
Distant mountains
Distant river
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>>20898811
>>20898811
F. Build Yeneths Temple and fill it with pretty and useless items.

C.Gather them resources for the temple building.

Obviously not in that order.

And since I don't believe it would require a turn to do this, Yeneths priestess:

Hilde: A young, lithe woman with flowing brown hair and bright blue eyes that are only matched by a clear spring day in their beauty.
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>>20899013
*grumble grumble* I want a god of death *grumble*

Oh yeah, what did we decide on for the wolf priest, my idea or that other one?
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>>20898977
Judging by Yeneth's orders, the priest or priestess of her (as yet un-built) shrine would have to be beautiful and to have not yet taken a lover. Young would probably be better, but there was no rule stating an age. There are many ways the tribe could measure beauty too.
> Create a new character if you want this to be a hero. If not, I'll use a generic. Keep in mind that a hero would have to perform deeds to keep the title.

The elders spend the best part of the moon cycle desperately trying to come up with some way to better catch fish. Their lack of anything to work with causes a little difficulty, but they believe they are a good deal of the way towards some workable construct for catching fish.
> No fibrous plants yet, like flax or cotton. Here's something strange though... Yeneth was wearing cloth, rather than skins.
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>>20899048
I say go with a generic for now.

Also, did the cows have their babies yet?
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>>20899013
infamous in the tribe for actually turning down many potential mates, believing herself above them. To call her vain would be an understatement.
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Aaand that's it for tonight! Let me just say that I'm really gratified at the turn-out these threads are getting now. When there were times with only three or four players, I was honestly considering shutting this whole thing down. I'm glad I didn't.

Next thread is on SATURDAY, at 4:30PM, EASTERN STANDARD TIME. I look forward to seeing you all there and hope you enjoyed today!
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>>20899072
Fits Yeneth, doesn't she?
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>>20899072
But in reality she is secretly a man. A Bishi among Bishis
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>>20899079
Good night Britfag

This is really creepy the CAPTCHA just said my name and lockup I am kinda worried.
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>>20899079
dag nabbit.

I'm gonna have to start a civ thread. Does anyone have any suggestions for a subject matter?
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/tg/ is no longer boring!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG2BiMVuNfQ&feature=plcp


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