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"... Let's get back to sparring." I say after a moment's hesitation. "It clearly bothers you to think about it, so let's focus on training instead."

Saber nods. "With you, I have hope that at least this war won't be as destructive as the last one."

".... You mean the one you spoke of being summoned to, that was the war ten years ago?" I ask, realizing. "You made it to the end?"

"Yes." Saber answers. "I was ordered to destroy the Grail by my Master, and the last thing I saw before fading away was a great fire. Doubtless his handiwork."

I push the implications out of my mind, and experiment with my technique a little bit as we continue. I'm still copying his style, but trying different stances, different grips.

Saber notes that I'm improving, and after another hour or so we're interrupted. "If you're going to copy me, I'll have to insist on you doing it properly." Archer says, walking in during a brief pause in the combat. "Here, loosen your grip with your index finger if you aren't striking. plant one foot slightly behind to better your balance." He begins grabbing limbs and repositioning them slightly. "Tighten your form, but loosen your stance." He looks me over with narrowed eyes after a second. ".... Better. Now give it a try."

Something clicks. The way I was doing things was imprecise, but that wasn't a flaw in the technique. With proper form I can execute more cleanly. It's like removing the play in a steering wheel, suddenly everything simply works... better.
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>>21451465

Archer nods. "There, now you aren't embarrassing me. As much."

"What?"

"If you insist on using my style, people might think me your teacher. If that's the impression they'll receive then I'd rather they didn't know my 'student' as a clumsy ass." He responds with a sigh. "Not that it'll matter in the long run."

"What's that supposed to mean?" Saber demands.

"I just don't think he has good odds for surviving the war. He's unskilled as a Magus, he's weak and clumsy as a warrior, and he's too softhearted to be a killer." Archer responds with a shrug. "If he had even two of those I'd give him decent odds, especially with a Saber at his side. But he doesn't even have ONE of those. The only thing he has going for him is a strong work ethic." He gives Saber a look. "And apparently raw sexual magnetism. Damned if I know where he gets the Swag from though."

"....I think you misunderstand some things." Saber says, scratching the side of her face. I nod along, trying not to think about how she isn't actually denying it.

"Whatever." Archer says with a shrug. "Rin wanted me to tell you that dinner will be ready soon, if you're hungry."

I'm about to respond, when I hear Saber's stomach growl slightly. "I think I'll head to dinner." She says, blushing slightly.

[ ] Follow.
[ ] Stay.
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>>21451469

The king needs to be fed.

Lets feed it lancer.
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>>21451469
Its important we eat to maintain our strength...also I don't what sitting around in the dojo alone would accomplish. I guess we might get to talk to Archer some. But I'm going with

[X] Follow.
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Aww yeah, time for some Fate/Stay Again.

>>21451469
>[x] Follow.
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Tempted to say "Stay" to let Rin and Saber have some time to talk, but it'd be rude to turn down dinner.
>[x] Follow.

>This SAddnes
Them feels, captcha, them feels.
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>>21451469

>Off /tg/ for months because college shit
>Come back for first time
>This thread

[Follow]
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>>21451469
[X] Follow.

Fuck yeah, food.
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>>21451469
[X] Stay

While following gives us access to dinner, if we stay, we can get a bit of conversation time with Archer.

I want to know what this guy is up to, figure out how he ticks a bit more
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>>21451469
>[ ] Follow.

WE HUNGER
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I follow Saber, and see Rin cooking.

Offers of help are denied, so I sit at the table with Saber and wait.

"Sempai, we're here." Sakura greets as she enters the house.

"What is that smell? It smells fantastic?"

"Nothing special." Rin answers from the kitchen. "Just made some Chinese food." She looks at the two of them, and feigns a bit of shyness. "I do hope I made enough."

"Eh? Chinese food?" Sakura says, slightly surprised. "Sempai, you never taught me that..."

"That's because I don't know how." I respond honestly. "I've only tried a few times, and it didn't come out right."

"So you just gave up?" Sakura asks. She seems, shocked by the implications of me surrendering.
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>>21451783

"No, Kiritsugu told him to stop experimenting. First he gave himself food poisoning so badly we had to take him to the hospital, and another time he ate a pair of ghost peppers trying to figure out how to make the dish hotter." Fuji-nee responds with a snicker. "Thankfully, all that did was make him unable to taste for about a week. Which I think played into Kirisugu's ban more than anything. You cook some interesting food when you have no idea what you're making."

I silently wish she didn't insist on telling such embarrassing stories.

"Sakura." Rin calls from the kitchen. "If Emiya-kun can't teach you, do you want to learn from me? I'm almost done, but you could learn a thing or two." She offers.

Sakura looks conflicted, but then looks at me and gets a spark in her eye. Was she serious when she called me a rival in the kitchen? "Yes, I think I would like that. Thank you." She says, moving to the kitchen and donning an apron.

Taiga gives me a good natured nudge to the ribs. "Looks like your plans to become the perfect house-wife have been foiled. How does that make you feel?"

[ ] Relieved.
[ ] Sad.
[ ] Happy.
[ ] Confused. When did I lose say over my kitchen?
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>>21451652

Have you seen the Archives yet? I think this is thread five.
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>>21451800
[X] Confused. When did I lose say over my kitchen?

"This used to be my kitchen, but now other people are taking my place there. I feel like my life has lost all direction."
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>>21451800
>Kiritsugu
WHELP

Incoming pic related

[X ] Confused. When did I lose say over my kitchen?

It's my kitchen, dammit!

>Sion majscript

No, capcha, that's ANOTHER Type-Moon franchise
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>>21451800

[Sad]

We like our cooking, dammit! It's fun!

((BTW, is there an IRC?))
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>>21451800
[x] Confused. When did I lose say over my kitchen?
Mages bettah recognize.
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>>21451853

I could have sworn she said the name around Saber before.

Actually, given the way Saber reacted to the coat and our last name, I think she knows who our Dad is, but doesn't know how to tell us.
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>>21451800
[X] Sad.

(although confused would be my second choice)
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>>21451800
>[ ] Confused. When did I lose say over my kitchen?

WE ARE KITCHEN KING SHIROU, NONE MAY TRESPASS IN OUR DOMAIN.
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>>21451828

Oh? Cool! I'll go look - can you give me a quick run-down? Has anyone died yet?
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>>21451898
No, but we did kick berserker in the face.
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>>21451916
>>21451898

It's worth noting that we did so after our attempt at Car-jacking blew us up, and we surfed the explosion into him.
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>>21451800
>[x] Confused. When did I lose say over my kitchen?
They're taking our kitchens!
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>>21451964

With shaking of fist and southern drawl
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>>21451955
>>21451916


Glorious. As you were, gents.
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>>21451800

>[x] Confused. When did I lose say over my kitchen?
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>>21451964
>>21451973
They terk er kertchins!
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>>21451875

no IRC, as far as I'm aware. Threads have jumped between two different DMs (by the by, fuck you with a rake Kirei-sama)

[x] Confused
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>>21451898
Three biggest things that have happened that didn't happen in the VN:

-Lancer cooperating with Ilya for some damn reason, currently no clues about why the fuck.
-Saved Ayako from Shinji-rape.
-Found out that Shinji isn't Rider's master, and that Sakura is involved, BEFORE the big throw-down at the school. Haven't followed up on this yet since it only happened yesterday.
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>>21451891
Rice is my body and sauce is my blood!

>>21451955
Other noteworthy things include discovering Illya has an odd relationship with Lancer (he seemed to follow her like a second Servant), and Berserker isn't what we had in mind (Berserker appears to shapeshift. I suspect Lancer may have been summoned, twice)

Also, Illya tried (adorably) to kidnap us, Rin is clearly hot for us, we saved Ayako from sexual assault, and Souchirou-sensei is a total bro who we owe a favor.

>>21451880
Possibly. I need to re-read the old threads.

All I can say is: things could get mighty awakward with enough heart-to-hearts over the last Grail War
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>>21452025

And that lancer isn't exactly bog standard lancer. Since he attacked with a sword as well.
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>>21452025
Also, Bazett isn't dead, or at least Lancer or Kotomine pocketed her fragarachs
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>>21452059

((META:Fragarach, you mean? That's Bazzet Fraga McRemitz's weapon.))
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>>21452013

Shirou long after archer-hood.
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>>21452090
Yes, Archer said with certainty that it was Fragarach.
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>>21452074

She's not dead. Canon says only Fragas can use Fragarach. Well, them and their Servants, I surmise.
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>>21452152
Does not mean Kotomine could not take it. And hell, nab a sample of her blood and it might be good.
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>>21452152
>implying canon is being too closely stuck to when we dynamic-entry Berserker. in the face
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Dont you already run one waifu quest? Isnt it a bit obnoxious to clog the board with another?
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>>21452230

Mmm. Could be, I suppose. I'm going to assume she's alive, though.
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Incidentally, AC-Guy, I do not believe you ever answered me when I asked if we would run into any of the other Type-Moon character.

>>21452266
Despite Kirei-kun's general approval of waifuisms, this guy claimed that he was somewhat against it.

>>21452281
Maybe, no guarantees.
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>>21452230
>nab a sample of her blood and it might be good
Not how it works. Their blood is used in the creation of one or more Fragarach. The secrets to their creation & use are passed down to each family successor/head/proper term.

Promisingly enough Shirou should be able to loophole his way through thanks to being the swordiest sword that was ever the sword of his sword.
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On a side note, when are we going to peep at Rin's panties?

>implying she doesn't go commando
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>>21452316
Well know that we are rubbing up on the concept of swords, I think it would be worth it to try and hang with Gilgamesh. If he does not try to stab us first we might be able to get some time with Ea, and I will be damned if we do not at least try to understand it. If we are lucky, then just maybe we can get something out of it.
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>>21452336

Shirou can't analyse Ea. It's made of shit that doesn't exist in this reality.
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>>21452285
Its based on a VN. Waifushit is a core feature of the setting.
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[x] >>21451840
This exact line, or as close as one can reasonably get.
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>>21452336
Ea's a lost cause for two reasons:
1) it is a creation from before the concept of 'sword' ever existed and is, technically, not a sword
2) it was forged from a star or some such shit. Regardless it is made of shit not found on Earth which puts it beyond Shirou's capability.

>>21452334
Probably never since Archer would undoubtedly be there waiting to cry it out to the masses.
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>>21452352
>>21452372
I will be damned if we do not give it a shot.

>>21452361
Are you just being a nuisance because you have nothing better to do, or is this some thing about how other people are having fun wrong.
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>>21452372

Suffering
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>>21452361

>IT'S BASED ON SOMETHING THAT MEANS IT'S EXACTLY LIKE IT
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"Sad and confused. The Kitchen was my thing. Then I started teaching Sakura how to cook, and now suddenly I'm kicked out of my own kitchen? My life feels empty and directionless."

Taiga laughs. "It's not that bad."

"It's exactly that bad!" I proclaim with mock panic. "What else do I have left? Work? I gave up on video games a long time ago."

"I guess you could fight crime." Taiga answers with a smirk. "You have a bow. Hell, I'll buy you the mask."

"And what, become Hawkeye? I'm not THAT good a shot."

"Hawkeye?" Rin asks, bringing food to the table. "Who's that?"

"My Dad occasionally brought back souvenirs from his travel abroad. One time it was some comic books from America."

"He showed them to me since he couldn't read English." Taiga continues. "We agreed that Hawkeye was in many ways, the most impressive of the heroic types running around."

Sakura cocks her head. "Really?"

"Yeah." Taiga continues. "In a world with Wizards who could make spells the size of continents, people who could build machines that do the impossible, and super-soldiers who've been fighting for almost a century, Hawkeye was a guy with a bow. And he managed to keep up with everyone else. Because he was simply THAT good with a bow."
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>>21452392
>>21452376
Please just ignore him.
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>>21452409

Sakura gets a bit of a mischievous smile on her face. "Is that why you were in Archery, Sempai?"

"What? No, it has nothing to do with it." I answer. "It was something I enjoyed and was good at. I had the time to spare, so I joined the Archery club. When time became an issue I left."

"That's it then?" Sakura asks. "You'd come back to Archery if you had the time?" She seems so hopeful, I settle for a half truth.

"Maybe. I certainly wouldn't mind going back if such was the case. But I'm not sure I want to make the commitment if I'm just going to drop out again later."

Sakura nods at this, slightly disappointed. "By the way, Sempai. I spoke with my Grandfather. He said he would allow me to stay out of school for a few days to stay with you, as long as I returned home at night."

"You... You don't have to do that...." Rin says, shooting me a glance. "I'm already staying out-"

"I can't just walk away and let Shirou-" Sakura hesitates. "I've been coming here for a year and a half. I feel responsible if he isn't feeling well."

Taiga nods along, seemingly oblivious to the subtext.

[ ] Agree with Sakura.
[ ] Agree with Rin.
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>>21452376
After scrolling past three waifu quests in a row and noticing this one was by a guy who is already running another waifu quest it started to grate on me.
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>>21452418
Agree with Rin. Send the wormslut away.

>>21452425
I do not quite see why /tg/ hates quests so much, but it is much better to see fifty quest threads than fifty shitposts from /sp/ because we had a "get" coming tomorrow afternoon so they had to come and try to claim it.
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>>21452425

There is an option to hide threads, yes? I suggest you start using it.
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>>21452418

[x] Agree with Sakura

We need to talk. All of us.

And it gets her away from Shinnnnnjiiii *gash teeth*
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>>21452418
>[ ] Agree with Sakura.
We know she's involved in the Grail War. Get her away from Shinji.

If we turn her away we'll end up having to fight Rider to the death.
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>>21452418

[Agree with Sakura]

If she's here, it'll be that much easier to keep her safe.

Also, if the Emiya house gets attacked while Sakura's here, I'd lay money on Rider showing up to defend her (and, by extension, us).
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>>21452266
>>21452361
>>21452425
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[x] Agree with Sakura.

At the risk of losing Rin's trust, we should handle this gently
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>>21452418
>[X] Agree with Sakura.

As much as i hate Wormfood, she is the key to Rider.
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>>21452418

Wait...

[x] Third option. If you must offend either, why not both?

Ask Taiga to stay with us as well.

Promise her her choice of food.
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>>21452425

I honestly wonder how/when people started to view AC-Quest as a Waifu quest.

This is the first I've heard of it, especially since I've started killing off characters and everyone has mental trauma.

>>21452285

I'm not particularly for or against Waifuisms. If you insist on attempting to seduce every woman you meet I'm not going to stop you, just remind you of the consequences.

The girls you meet are characters in their own right, with their own ideal, quirks, and motivations.

Incidentally, I don't think I'll be adding characters from other Nasuverse series. I'm barely familiar enough with Fate to not completely fuck over everything.
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>>21452473
>LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU LA LA LA
Real mature there, chief.
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>>21452502

How about the side characters of fate?

Especially she of the drillhair and pin locks.
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>>21452520

.... I'm honestly not sure who you're talking about.

If it wasn't in the VN, Fate Zero, or the direct supplementary works, I probably don't know it.
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[X]Agree with Sakura

While having her stay over makes plannign more difficult, we'll have a legit excuse for walking around town late at night and coming home with weird scrapes. "Well, Taiga, after I dropped Sakura home some punk-ass hoods jumped me and I had to go batshit on them."

Plus, as >>21452446 mentioned, being able to get some lines of communication open with her would be useful;. We suspect that Rider isn't even Shinji's servant, and may in fact be bound to Sakura.

We could get ANOTHER magus on our side, or at least work out the M.O. of everyone involved so we can solve this Grail War business without too much skullduggery or loss of innocent life.

>>21452478
We lost Rin's trust? We trolled her a bit last thread, but no worse than any of the shit Archer pulled
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>>21452502
Because its all about the waifus, even when youre killing them.
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>>21452536
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>>21452536

Luvia, something like that. She practices gemcraft like Rin and she's a wrestler (seriously). She shows up in F:HA, I think.
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>>21452536

So.... Prisma Ilya is a thing you're familiar with?
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>>21452536
Luvia Edelfelt.

She's a minor character in Hollow Ataraxia and Unlimited Codes. Rival of Rin's at the Association. Similar magecraft to Rin, and also practices wrestling, to contrast Rin's kenpo.
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>>21452542

We haven't lost Rin's trust, I'm just saying agreeing with her sister over her might lead to that.
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>>21452536

There are a few of us here who know the canon pretty damn well. We can help.
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>>21452551

>F:HA

Then ask me again when that shit gets translated.

Or I buy Rosetta Stone or something, since I don't speak Japanese and have zero trust in the Wikis for detail.
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>>21452551
Luviagelita Edlfelt. Rin's rival at the Clocktower. Prim. Ladylike. Has a fighting style based on pro-wrestling.

Amazing what you can learn from a smutty fanfic by Elf
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>>21452512
>mature people must directly confront every little easily ignorable annoyance
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>>21452580

Staying classy I see, Pete.
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>>21452567
So long as we don't let Sakura seduce us, we should be fine. We needed to do something about her at some point anyway, and better this than let Shinji use her as a hostage.
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>>21452572
>Implying it will be translated before the sun goes red giant

;_;
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>>21452572

Hey man, don't get mad at me. I wasn't the one suggesting it.

On a side note, why don't they have the guy who translated the MGQ games to work on HA? Pretty sure he'd be able to get it done within our lifetimes
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>>21452567
Good point. I'd personally like to see everyone have this melee-a-trois (melee-a-sept?) resolve itself with everyone confronting everyone else right out in the open. We all vye for the grail, play it honest and open, and resolve shit without too much ahrdshit.

that can't be hard right? RIGHT?
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>>21452418
>[x] Agree with Sakura.
Good method to get her away from Shinji.
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>>21452610
Not until he does part 3. Heads will roll if that doesn't get done as soon as possible.
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>>21452661
MGQ is not all that good; I have no idea why people get their panties in a bunch about it.

>>21452610
In this sort of fandom, you are so much better off learning moon than waiting on the handful of mediocre translation projects that will never finish.
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>>21452650

At this point, I'd rather we just stick with Rin rather than trying to get more than one girl.
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>>21452650

>Trying to get a bunch of insanely paranoid Magi to just "come out and fight like a man"

You'd need to roll a natural 21 on a d20
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>>21452600
Classiest tripfag posting with this threat with the letter W starting his name, Cu.

>>21452652
The only thing bothersome about getting her away from Shinji is that Shinji (who views us less-than-charitably for pounding his face in after the incident with Ayako) might not appreciate having his sister play traitor
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>>21452671
Doesn't mean people can't enjoy it.
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>>21452673
But that would mean Rin never hooks up with her one true love, Saber.
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>>21452650
Magi are actually not incompetent. Except for a handful of very prideful and honest Servants, that is not going to happen. And none of those Servants are in this war, except maybe Gilgamesh, but he is strong enough that he can get away with it.

>>21452688
Shinji would be better off getting out of the Matou household altogether. I actually wanted to try and have him come over before Sakura offered, at least until Zouken was dead.
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>>21452703
>Rin
>one true love
>anything other than money, gems, and prestige
Shine on you crazy diamond.
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>>21452671
I know a bit of moon, but my reading speed is horrendously slow and I don't know that many kanji anyway.

>>21452688
What's he gonna do? He has less magical aptitude than we do (and that's saying something, swording swords aside), and if his book gets destroyed, he loses control over Rider. I'd say that would make him an easy target, especially against two powerful Servants, even if he has Rider.
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>>21452688

Oh, that would be terrible! Why, he...he might get ANGRY with us! Le gasp!

...Although that WOULD give us an excuse to push his shit in...
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>>21452673
In terms of relationships, Rin is the most trustworthy. Even if Archer is a dick, he's a useful dick who has gone along with us in some of the plans. getting SHirou's oldest friend to also play on our side?It seems like we could definitely maneuver that to our advantage.

>>21452680
Yeah, it's a little too idealistic. but still. Right now, we have Archer and Saber willing to aid us. Illya is a potential ally who, even if she opposes us, wouldn't kill us. If we explore this possibility and see if we can ascertain that Sakura is indeed Rider's master, we'd have at LEAST three Servants on our side. That's only slightly less than half of all the Servants in the war, NOT actively planning to murder Shirou & co (Archer's dickery excepted)


I like those odds.
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>>21452744
Fun fact: We already gave him a pair of black eyes earlier, and Rider let us do it.
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>>21452739
You would be well advised trying to pick up your pace than waiting, and you get a lot more choices and usually a much improved product for it. But hell, I have yet to bother learning moon anyway, so whatever.

Also, Shinji is crazier than a magus. If you go out of your way to antagonize him, he is probably going to stab some bitches.
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>>21452762

I saw that. Which is why I'm inclined to provoke him - if Sakura's here, and he attacks us, Rider will most likely do all she can to get him killed to save Sakura. Which would be excellent - we'd have (indirect) control over 3 Servants, and Shinji'd be dead.
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>>21452779
Probably the best idea. I really don't like how F/SN was translated anyway, it reads really stilted and I don't know if that's just the translation or if it actually written that way.
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>>21452739
Shinji by himself is a forgettable pain-in-the-ass.

Shinji squealing back to Grampa/convincing Kirei to give him Gilgamesh/threatening Sakura with telling us what he did to her is significantly more than a forgettable pain-in-the-ass.

I'm trying to avoid emta-knowledge about the Book of False Attendant and what-have-you. Never assume the DM will play things to canon when it's well within their rights to change the rules on a moment's notice.
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>>21452800
We picked up another guy going out of his way to kill Shinji then?
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>>21452814
That's true, considering the stuff with Lancer and Berserker. However, he did have the book with him last thread, and Rider did kind of imply that he wasn't really her Master, so I don't know if it's really meta or not.
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"I hardly think I need supervision to make it through the day." I respond. "But if you're really that concerned for my health I don't see the harm in you stopping by every once in a while." I give her a look. "It's not going to affect your schooling is it?"

"N-no Sempai." she answers. "I'll keep up."

I let out a small sigh. "Alright then. I'll hold you to that."

Sakura seems happy, and she departs soon after dinner promising that she'll be back bright and early. Taiga follows not long after, apparently trusting me more than the other day.

"Well then." Rin says, looking at me. "We're inviting our enemy into our home then?"

"I don't see Sakura as my enemy. Besides, If she's close we can prevent Shinji from trying to use her against us, and keep on eye on her. For her safety and ours. We don't actually know she's a master, or how much she's even aware of what's going on."

"Oh really." Rin says, smug smile on her face. "Then tell me, why would she be coming here if I'm here?"

"Simple concern? Jealousy? She's been coming here for over a year and also apparently has a crush on me."
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>>21452848

Rin's smile disappears, and she looks away, apparently trying to hide a blush. "What is it she has to be jealous of? It- It's not like I like you or anything."

"You've already admitted to exactly that. In those words even." Saber says politely while sipping tea. Rin refuses to acknowledge her blunt reminder.

"Alright, they're gone?" Archer asks, entering the room. "What did I miss?"

"Apparently Sakura's going to be coming over starting tomorrow." Rin says, giving me a glare.

"Fantastic!" Archer says with a smile. "I say we have Shirou seduce her. Should be easy if she genuinely has feelings for him."

[ ] "What?"
[ ] "Explain."
[ ] Glare of death.
[ ] ".... Anyway...."
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Rolled 95, 35, 81, 100, 56, 97 = 464

>>21452853

[x] Explain further
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>>21452848
>"Well then." Rin says, looking at me. "We're inviting our enemy into our home then?"
>our home
Goddamn Rin, you move fast.
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Back in a bit, taking a quick shower.
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>>21452853
Explain further, of course.
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>>21452853
[x] You lost me.
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>>21452863
All those 90s and dat 100.

If this were MSQ I'd be pissed at you for wasting such good rolls.
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>>21452853
>[X] Glare of death.
Bring it, asshole!
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>>21452853
>[x] "Explain."
We should go into maximum over-dense to troll Archer. Please elaborate further, sir!
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>our home

hue

also

[x] Explain further

there is no way this will not end well
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>>21452853
>[ ] "Explain."
>>21452848
>"Well then." Rin says, looking at me. "We're inviting our enemy into our home then?"
>into our home
>our home
>our
Well that's interesting.
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>>21452853
[x]"Explain."
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>>21452853

[Glare of Death] followed by [...Anyway...]
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>>21452853
Oh Archer, you magnificent bastard. Living vicariously through your younger alternate timeline self.

>[ ] Glare of death.

Because seducing Sakura, for any reason, would result in:
-Pissed off Rin
-Probably pissed off Saber
-Sticking our dick in CRAZY
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>>21452913
You forgot
-Worms
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>>21452905


Ooh, nice catch, Anon! Let's call her on it!
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>>21452853
Dammit, I can't predict how these choices will go.

All I know is that Explain probably isn't the best answer.

Please put me down for whichever option is winning that isn't explain.
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>>21452926
Why thank you.
And yes, let's.
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>>21452853
>[ ] "Explain"
I'm not sure i follow you.

Oh, and don't forget to slip in some comment about "our home".
Not that I'm bothered by it, but poor Rin just LOVES to set herself up for this crap.
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>>21452853
[X] Glare of death.

>>21452865
My thoughts exactly. If we so desire we could probably bring this up to embarrass her further...might be a bit much though, she might just think we're going to do nothing but tease her for admitting her feelings...which is kind of a dick move.
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>>21452908
>>21452899
>>21452896
>>21452882
This isn't a good idea. Archer's already claimed that we're trying to build a harem, and appearing interested in it will not help things with anyone.

[x]what?

glare of death could be spun by archer.
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>>21452865

Must bring this up. Huehuehuehue
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>>21452947
I'm only hoping we can turn this into a troll-off against Archer.

I don't know if we can win this (he is MUCH more expereinced in the art of troll-fu), but if we have to go in this direction, we might as well take it for a ride.
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>>21452998
>troll-fu
So we just need to counter with Trollkwando.
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AC-Guy

Changing my vote from [x]Explain to [x]What.
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>>21452982
is right.

Explain is shit tier, and glare has more chance to be misinterpreted.

[x] "What?"

Do I have to remind you guys this is Fate:stay hard mode?
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>>21453014

Agreed.

>[x] "What?"

Is the better option to go with if we're going to try and troll Archer.
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>>21453014
Fair enough, lets go with

[x] "What?"

We don't want to risk pissing everyone just to initiate another troll-war with Archer.
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>>21452982
You...you don't know about the second most dense substance in existence - be it fictional or not - do you?
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>>21452853
I'm going to have to go with
>[ ] "Explain"
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>>21453030

Agreed. [x] "What?"

But still call Rin out on "our" house.
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>>21453043
>second most dense
The first is Natsuru, isn't it?
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>>21453055
Indeed it is.
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>>21453043
Huh? I'm sorry, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It sounds like you want us to do something stupid for no benefit in hard mode because of something fictional? Is that right?
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>>21453096
>because of something fictional
I don't see what you have against sassing Archer.
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>>21453192
Sassing Archer can be done in a multitude of ways, including several that don't involve playing right into his hands.
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>>21453216
But it could be pretty funny. You like humor, right? [X] Explain further
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>>21453192
While I have no problem with sassing Archer, I'd rather not upset Rin.

We've made a tactically disadvantageous move, are possibly making her jealous/uncomfortable, and NOW this shithead is play up the "Shirou-want-to-start-a-harem" fears again?

Fuck you, Archer. Don't do this shit to your Master
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>>21453216
You apparently don't get it. The 'explain further' thing is a jab at canon-Shirou's density. The point is to 'I don't get it' him until he throws his hands up in the air and goes away. The majority of their relationship at the moment is irritating the shit out of each other.
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>>21453192
Is that an actual counterargument or are you playing along with the joke?

In case of the former, it's just a reference to
>be it fictional or not
from >>21453043.
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>>21453227
We can't use the "durr we're so oblivious you'll have to spell it out" schtick twice in 24 hours, it'll get stale. Plus, Rin won't buy it for an instant considering she was our last victim.
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>>21453248
Amusingly enough I made both of the posts yours links to.
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>>21453252
Rin, we can pull this shit on. She sets herself right up for these things, so knocking her down a peg is practically a given.

Archer, though - he sees right through us. He can get inside Shirou's head eerily easy. Fuck that.

Pic related. it's what he'll do to us if we try to outwit him just yet.
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>>21453252
Especially since "Explain further" really just sounds like we're interested in the plan. Now if there we're an option of "You lost me" it might be worth it.

At all tolerating this suggestion sounds like a terrible idea if we don't want to piss off Rin, and if we also tease her about what she said...
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These guys have a point.
I'm >>21452905 and I'm switching to
>>21452853
>[ ] Glare of death.
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"What?" I ask, at roughly the same time as Rin.

"Archer, what're you doing?" Rin asks, glaring at her servant.

"Trying to get the hormones on the 'winning' side for once. Currently, Sakura is jealous of you, I'm guess." Rin blushes slightly. "Thought so. So by seducing her, it convinces her that he returns her feelings, keeps her off-guard about us, and makes it harder for her to make moves against him. And since you've insisted on this silly little alliance, against you. Then I just need to wait for the optimal moment to deal with Rider."

"... Why is it your every suggestion seems to be an attempt to make one of us seems a complete bastard?" I ask, dumbfounded.

"What, you're saying you don't like her?" He asks with a wolfish grin. Rin looks at me, waiting for my answer.

"That's well beside the point. You want me to take advantage of a girl who trusts and cares about me. You want me to do this by SLEEPING with her, so I can trick her into a maybe alliance so YOU can backstab her."

"I never said you had to have sex with her. I meant 'seduce' more in terms of 'wooing'." Rin gives me a hard look.

"Well forgive me for assuming the worst." I respond. "It would be more in line with prior suggestions."

"Since when have I suggested anything with a hope of getting you laid?"

"Will you two stop bickering?" Rin finally interjects. "I swear, you two go at like an old married couple."
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>>21453243
And you aparently don't get that this is lunatic modo, and that's the most likely of the choices to have negative consequences.

Even just the appearance of interest will both make us look bad and give archer ammo against us.

As lolfunnay as shirou being dumb is, purposefully doing stupid shit will kill us.

Also, to borrow and probably mangle a /jp/ term, shirou being really dumb is for filthy secondaries. This ain't that one doujin with the diagrams.
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>>21453329

"Jealous, Rin?" Archer asks. "Don't worry, he isn't my type." He says with a grin. "Though it would go a long way towards explaining why he hasn't been putting the moves on you two."

"I'm not even going to dignify that with a response."

"Of course not, it would only distract them from your master plan of a threesome."

"Archer," Rin warns "If Shirou's morally opposed to a plan that requires his direct contribution, then there's no point in discussing it further. Furthermore, such talk about cheap seduction towards myself and Saber is not only disrespectful of him as our ally and host, but of myself and Saber. Apologize."

"... Very well. Saber, Rin, I'm sorry for making any insinuations against your honor. It's rude of me to make commentary or speculate about such affairs, even if they do have an impact on the war." He stands up. "And now I shall patrol the nearby area, make sure no servants or masters are close to the house."

He leaves, and Rin hesitates before suddenly yelling that he never apologized to me.

[ ] Tell her it's alright.
[ ] Tell her that Archer's a dick.
[ ] Ask her what she meant by 'our home'.
[ ] Plan the trip to school to defuse the boundary field.
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>>21453336
Archer is hilarious. Ask what she meant.
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>>21453283
I never said you didn't. Thought it was obvious, in fact.
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>>21453336
>[x] Plan the trip to school to defuse the boundary field.
Rin may be a bit too volatile to troll right now and we need to sort out what to do about the Blood Fort Andromeda sigils in case Shinji goes full asshole.
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>>21453336
>[x] Ask her what she meant by 'our home'.
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>>21453336
[x] Ask her what she meant by 'our home'.
[x] Plan the trip to school to defuse the boundary field.

Let her squirm a bit then give her an out in the form of a handy topic change.
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>>21453336
>[ ] Plan the trip to school to defuse the boundary field.
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>>21453336
>[ ] Ask her what she meant by 'our home'.
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>>21453367
Please only choose one suggestion. Not only is it annoying and obvious, the original poster explicitly requested than any inputs be limited to only one suggestion.
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>>21453336
[X] Tell her it's alright.
[X] Ask her what she meant by 'our home'.
[X] Plan the trip to school to defuse the boundary field.
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>>21453336
>[ ] Plan the trip to school to defuse the boundary field.
I really WANT to ask Rin what she meant, but I don't see much point beyond trolling her.
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>>21453389
>Implying trolling Rin is not an admirable purpose in it's own right
She loves us for our trolling, why should we stop?
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>>21453336
>[X ] Plan the trip to school to defuse the boundary field.

I'm curious to see how she means by 'our home'. (I honestly thought it was a typo by AC).
It might provoke her temper, but I could see this being a chance to deepen the relationship with her a bit more.

Still, we have business to attend to. There IS a boundary field made by an unknown player that bodes ill for everyone therein. We have a duty as a hero-hopeful as well as a magus to deeactivate the thing
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>>21453336
[X] Plan the trip to school to defuse the boundary field.

I too want to troll Rin about her comment, but feel its best not to bring it up right now. Also agreeing that we need to limit to one choice.
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>>21453336
"Rin... what's a threesome?"
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>>21453441
"Is it like a duet but with three people?"
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>>21453441
But yeah - in all seriousness >[x] Plan the trip to school to defuse the boundary field.
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>>21453441
Well, when a servant and two masters need mana very much....
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>>21453441
how is babby made
how girl get pregnant
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>>21453479
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I don't see how the first choice would take up more than a line of text.

[X] Tell her it's alright.
[X] Plan the trip to school to defuse the boundary field.
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>>21453491
Probably because it spawns off its own conversation. Regardless it has been requested of us that we only pick one, and given this is free entertainment we are getting its only polite to listen to the quest givers wishes.
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I'm still following by the way, I just can't keep up in real time because this quest updates so damn late. Anyway. Just keep going for Rin/Saber romance Shirou with someone else yaddah yaddah you know what I want.
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>>21453521
What do you even do, anyway? Only one in the morning.
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>>21453531
School is a cruel mistress.
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"... What did you mean by our home?" I ask Rin. Saber blinks and looks at her. Apparently she didn't notice.

"Huh? N-nothing. I mean, I'm staying here for now and saying 'home' is easier than saying 'our current base of operations'."

"Oh, alright. I thought as much, but didn't want to over analyze things." I respond, cleaning up the dishes from the table and packing away what little leftovers we have. Apparently Saber has a bigger appetite than you'd think.

As I do so, I notice Rin glaring at me. "What? Did I say something to upset you?"

"Ugh. If you don't get it then it's a waste of time trying to explain it." She responds, looking away.

Saber then says something to her in a hushed tone, which causes her to blink and they have a rapid back and forth before Rin turns away blushing and Saber leans back and takes a sip of tea.

What the hell was THAT about?

I return from the kitchen. "Alright, we've already sent Sakura and Fuji-nee home for the day, I think we should look into the school boundary field."

Rin hesitates, and then nods. "Right, we've left it too long as is, and now would be the perfect opportunity to look into it. This late, we could even bring Saber with us and attract minimal attention."

"How are we gonna do it then? Split up or together?"

".... I'm not sure how splitting up would help, since I don't think you know how to dispel the anchors. If we waited for Archer, we could have him help us scout.

[ ] Wait.
[ ] Go without.
[ ] Meet him there.
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>>21453561
>[ ] Meet him there.
That way we gain the benefit of having him to scout, without having to put up with his shit.
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>>21453561
[x] Meet him there.
He may be a dick but what's a dick for if not to be used?
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>>21453561
Meet there.

Mention "there's something that archer said that confused me though rin, what exactly is a threesome?"
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>>21453561
>[ ] Go without.
While i like the idea of having two Servants there, i worry that he might stab someone we could otherwise save while we aren't looking.
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>>21453561
[X]Meet him there

While I'd like to have a break from the jackass, he IS able to back us up if we run into trouble. And somehow, I suspect disrupting a magic field designed to do dreadful things to the inhabitants of the school will lead to trouble
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>>21453531
IIRC, AC prefers it if we only take a single option.

Going with
>[X] Plan the trip to school to defuse the boundary field.
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>>21453561
[X] Meet him there.

We'll have a servant with us anyways, and at worst he's a command seal away.

Also I think Saber is being a bro and covering for our cluelessness/pretend cluelessness.
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>>21453561
>[x] Meet him there.
Gotta get moving.
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>>21453561
[x]Meet him there
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>>21453642
>Making a plan around using a command seal

Didn't we establish that's a terrible idea in the previous thread?

That said, though, fuck Archer. Go without him.
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"I'd rather move as soon as possible. Can we have him meet as there?"

"Sure, I'll let him know." She responds. We go to gear up, and as we head out the door, Rin hands me something.

"Here." She says. "I managed to clean it and patch it up after you lent it to me."

Kiritsugu's coat.

[ ] Put it away.
[ ] Put it on.
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>>21453713
Of course we put it on. What kind of question is that?
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>>21453713
>[x ] Put it on.
It's time to suit up!
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>>21453713
>[ ] Put it on.
Our goal is to be who he WANTED to be.
The coat is key to that.
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>>21453713
You even need to ask?

Put that shit on!
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>>21453713
Put it on, its like +30 to our "I meantto do that" check
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>>21453713

Dont forget to thank her.
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>>21453713
>[ ] Put it on.

This is clearly the best option
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>>21453713
[x] Put it on.
We can always go Dresden on it & reinforce it's durability in a pinch.
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I hesitate, before grabbing to collar with one hand and swinging it on in one smooth motion. "Thanks." I respond, and give her a small smile.

As we turn to head out the door, I notice Saber looking at her feet.

"What's wrong?"

She suddenly snaps to attention. "Nothing. Nothing at all." She answers, looking past me to Rin. "Where is your school, anyway? I've never been there."

"Remember the Shopping district? It's just West of there." Rin answers as we head out the door. Saber walks slightly ahead of us, apparently keeping a watchful eye out for people who might attack.

"Hey Shirou." Rin says, leaning in slightly after we've been walking a few minutes. "Is it just me, or is Saber acting strangely?"

"She did it that night we went to see Kirei." I respond. "I wonder if it's the coat? Does it look weird on me?"

Rin takes a step back and gives me a quick look up and down. "No, it looks fine. A little loose, but you pull it off nicely." She's quiet for a long minute.

"How much further?" Saber asks.

"Hmmmm... I think it's faster if we cut across this way." I say, gesturing to a road on out right. "If we go this way it's almost a straight shot from here to school."

Saber nods, and keeps walking. Rin and I continue to follow.

[ ] Confront Saber.
[ ] Talk to Rin.
[ ] Timeskip to school.
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>>21453848
Best be off, then. Saber will not likely be well recieved to the subject.
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>>21453848
>[ ] Talk to Rin.
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>>21453848
Confront saber
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>>21453848
>[ ] Confront Saber
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>>21453848
[x] Confront Saber.
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>>21453848
>[ ] Confront Saber.

Ok, we aren't going to stop wearing our stylin' coat of +10 Badass, so something has to give. I'd rather get the talk out of the way now than have fer flip out on us in a pinch.
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>>21453848
>[x] Confront Saber.
Might as well get it out of the way now.
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Confront doesn't necessarily mean "FUCK YOU IM WEARING THE COAT AND YOU NEED TO SUCK IT UP AND DEAL WITH IT". It means "Why do you always act so shifty whenever I put this coat on?"
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>>21453945
>FUCK YOU IM WEARING THE COAT AND YOU NEED TO SUCK IT UP AND DEAL WITH IT
>>21453864 here, I change my vote to this.
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"Saber?" I ask, stepping forward. "A word?"

".... Yes?"

"Something's clearly been bothering you. Is it the coat? you act weird every time I wear it."

"... Are you sure you want to know?" She asks softly, as she stops walking. Rin stops as well.

"Yes." I respond, unhesitating. "If it bothers you this much I'd rather be done with it."

"Very well." She says, turning to me. "There's no gentle way to say this, so I was hoping to avoid the topic. My Master in the last war was Emiya Kiritsugu. Wearing that coat... makes you look a little too much like him."

Her answer hits me like a bullet. For a moment, I'm so shocked I stop breathing. "That- That would explain a lot." I say after a minute. "He never liked talking about his past. I always assumed he left behind some sort of tragedy and was trying to start fresh. It makes even more sense if he was to blame for it, at least in part."

Saber gives me a concerned look. "I knew it would hurt you to tell you, but..." She trails off slightly. "Look, I don't hold anything he did against you. You've been just, honorable and caring to a point bordering on Martyrdom. You aren't him."
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>>21454124

"That's some cold comfort, considering my desire to be like him was pretty much the defining point of my entire life." I respond. I take a deep breath, and force the emotion away. It won't help me right now. "Come on. The school's right up ahead, barely a couple minutes away." This time I take the lead so I don't have to look at them. I'm not sure how I look right now, but Rin was visibly confused, and Saber looked so sad-

I force the thoughts away and clear my mind. When we reach the school, Archer appears by the front gate. He opens his mouth to say something, but then hesitates and then decides to act seriously when he sees our faces. "Did a sweep of the grounds." He says. "Not enough time to spot all the anchor sigils, but I confirmed that there's no servants here at the moment.

[ ] Have Archer play lookout.
[ ] Have archer stick with the group.
[ ] Have Archer help search for the Anchors.
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>>21454133
>You aren't him.
This is actually pretty cold, Seiba.

Archer should stick around, just in case we get ambushed by someone faster than him, like Rider or Assassin.
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>>21454133
>[ ] Have Archer play lookout.
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>>21454133
Saber can be lookout, archer can help with finding anchors.
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>>21454133
>[ ] Have Archer play lookout.
He has his WIZARD EYES by virtue of being Archer. Not getting our asses jumped for once would be nice.
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>>21454133

[x] Archer Lookout

Saber can run protection for us and Tohsaka, since we need both of us to neutralise the points.
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>>21454133
>Lookout

Sticking with the group is just asking for conflict and doesn't gain us anything, and having him find the anchors is lazy.
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>>21454133
>[x] Have Archer play lookout.
What do your magi eyes see, Archer?
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>>21454148

Actually, given how she's open said how much she hates him, It's actually rather nice of her to point out that she thinks that we're better than that.

That said, we're a fucking daddy's boy (for good reasons, mind you) so it comes across as much of a violent knee-to-balls.
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>>21454133
[x]Have Archer play Lookout
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>>21454203
It was nice to her, because she hated him, but it was a bit rude to us, because we idolized him.
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>>21454203
She didn't see how much he'd changed from what he used to be. Shirou never saw what he used to be so never saw why anyone could hate who he was.
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"Archer." I say, looking at him. "You mind playing lookout? You'd notice if anything strange was happening before us."

He looks to Rin, and then nods. "Nice thinking. It might be that whoever set this up will notice us messing around. Lure them right into a trap." With that, he vanishes, and reappears moments later on the roof.

Rin turns to me. "Come on then. Where should we start?"

[ ] On the Roof, work our way down and out.
[ ] By the archery range, Archer said he noticed something before.
[ ] General run, look around and see if we can find clues as to the perpetrator.
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>>21454295

[x] Archery range

Lets see what he saw.
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>>21454295
Follow the clue. Archery range it is.
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>>21454295
>[ ] By the archery range, Archer said he noticed something before.

Archer's already on the roof, so I think that's where we should go last
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>>21454295
>[ ] By the archery range, Archer said he noticed something before.
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>>21454295
>[ ] By the archery range, Archer said he noticed something before.

We've got a raging clue.
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>>21454340
Oh, I'll give you a raging clue, alright.
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We walk up to the Archery Range, and I immediately notice the door's locked.

"Damn." Rin says, looking away. "Do you have any idea where the keys are?"

I meanwhile, have an idea. I grab a pair of nearby paperclips and bend one straight, leaving the other with a slight hook, before gently placing my forehead against the door.

"Shirou...?" Saber asks. I try my best to ignore her.

"Trace on-" I mumble, and soon I see the building in perfect clarity. I narrow it down: first to the door, then to the handle, then to the lock. I reinforce the clips and go to work.

[DC 10 lock-picking check]
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Rolled 1

>>21454392
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Rolled 2

>>21454392
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Rolled 3

>>21454392

BE THE THIEF
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Rolled 11

>>21454411
>>21454413
>>21454423
Wow.
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Rolled 5

>>21454392
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Rolled 1

>>21454423

Thats a 1d10....
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>>21454411
>>21454413
>>21454423

KEEP GOING! WE'RE IMPROVING!
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Rolled 15

>>21454411
>>21454413
>>21454423
okay, the third guy rolled a d10, but still, wtf /tg/ dice.
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>>21454411
>>21454413
>>21454427

>You guys are lucky I noticed the d10.

After a few tense moments, I unlock the door and the three of us move inside. I immediately feel something weird in the air. Upon telling Rin-

"Huh? Really? You must be really sensitive to such things." She says, one hand on her hip. "I can't feel anything."

Apparently it's up to me to at least find the source.

[DC12 Spellcraft]
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>>21454411
>>21454432
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Rolled 7

>>21454467
magic-find go!
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Rolled 17

>>21454467
Tense indeed. Strike one for disarming Bloodfort Andromeda.
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Rolled 16

>>21454467
Maybe I won't suck as much as you guys.
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Rolled 4

>>21454467
My Wizard senses are tingling.
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Rolled 12

>>21454467

fuuu
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Rolled 7

>>21454392
>>21454467
You might want to mention what sort of dice we need to roll.
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>>21454475
>>21454476
>>21454483

I feel like I'm covered in bugs, flies wanting to suck my blood. this whole room feels.... tainted, but it's not like a poison. It's more like it's only harming one person. An allergy or something would be a more accurate comparison than a sickness.

I relay my thoughts to Rin. "That's... weird." She says after a moments consideration. "It almost sounds like a strong curse like magic, but the draining you speak of makes me think of something like a contract or a parasite. What on earth could have both?"

She asks me to locate the source, which I do a few moments later. If I remember correctly- "This is where Sakura generally takes her place."

"Really?" Rin asks, looking to me shocked.

"At least it was when I came here." I respond. "Towards the back here she'd be directly between where Taiga sits overseeing and Ayako. Minimal exposure to people on the whole and direct contact with the people in charge to help them and in case she needs help."

Rin seems concerned, but investigates dutifully for a few minutes. "There is something weird here." She says. "More so than you realize. It seems like a curse, but.... Whoever was here almost seems like they've accepted it willingly. Like this is a place for them to despair instead of fighting it."

"What does that mean?"

"I don't know. But I'm concerned for Sakura." She says with a sigh. "Come on, it's more info that we need, but not what we came for."

I go to re-lock the door.

[DC 15]
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>>21454534

It's always gonna be a D20 unless otherwise noted here. Just assume that and we're good to go.
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Rolled 15

>>21454615

Locking modo
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Rolled 1

>>21454615
lock it real good.
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Rolled 16

>>21454615
Lock lock lock the door

Also wtf Sakura, stop getting your curse juice all over the dojo.
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Rolled 10

>>21454646

Hooray gutter mind.

...wormslut
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>>21454627
>>21454644
>>21454646

I manage to re-lock the door, but-

"Damn."

"What is it Shirou?"

"I think I lost the tip of this in there." I say, holding up one of my impromptu lock picks. I place my hand on the door and retrace it. "Yes, damn, it's in there. Hopefully it doesn't jam the lock."

Rin sighs. "It can't be helped. At least this way it looks like someone FAILED to break into the range."

"Yeah, there's that." I respond, and we leave to search the grounds.

[ ] On the Roof, work our way down and out.
[ ] General run, look around and see if we can find clues as to the perpetrator.

>Side note, this is a real choice thing. Depending on which way you go determines if you're prioritizing investigation of deactivation.
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>>21454698
Investigate, dude. Look around for the clues and shit.
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>>21454698
[x] On the Roof, work our way down and out.
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>>21454698
[ ] On the Roof, work our way down and out.

We've wasted enough time. Lets get this shit deactivated THEN look for clues.
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>>21454698
>[ ] On the Roof, work our way down and out.
We need to deactivate whatever the hell this is (I know it's Blood Fort Andromeda, but SHIROU doesn't know) before it can hurt anyone.
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Rolled 10

>>21454698

Deactivate.

Shirou would make taking it down a priority.
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>>21454698
[X] On the Roof, work our way down and out.

We might find something interesting when we reach the end.
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"We need to disarm this as quickly as possible. Let's start at the top and work our way out." I point out, and Tosaka and Saber both agree.

We get to the Roof, and Rin disarms the one we spotted before while Archer tells me that he hasn't seen anything yet.

We then begin to go down the stairs to search in earnest.

[D20 spellcraft. You can't fail, this is just to see how fast you move.]
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Rolled 16

>>21454792
Well, let's do this then.
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Rolled 5

>>21454792
ZOOM
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Rolled 14

>>21454792
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Rolled 4

>>21454792
awwwwwwright

Die evil magic thingy, you don't belong in this world!
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Rolled 12

>>21454792
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After a moment's hesitation, I put my hand on the wall.

"Shirou? What're you doing?"

"There's a flow of energy through the place, residual patterns left by people moving about through their day." I respond, focusing on the structure of the building. "If this trap is made to absorb energy, it would look like something.... weird, if someone were to examine the energy flow. Like a whirlpool or something."

"And you can read the energy?" Rin asks, surprised.

"No, no I can't." I say, opening one eye and looking at her. "I can however, feel it when it's nearby. A disturbance. It's like when you find a weird smell: the closer you are the more it stinks. You do the same, maybe more. My nose is just more sensitive, right?"

"Well, yes." She says, clearly wondering where I intend to go with this.

"I can instinctively read the structure of something, just by holding it. It's as easy as breathing. My hope is that by analyzing the structure of the building with my magic, I can notice energy distortions."

"Can you really do such a thing?" Saber asks.

"I've never tried it before." I respond. "But if I'm wrong it only costs us a minute, and if I'm right-" I hesitate, feeling something. "Yes. I've got one." I say "Three doors that way, on the left."

Rin leaves to investigate, then returns with a paper map of the school and a pencil. "You were right. I'll get started on this one, you keep looking for more."
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>>21454934

A few minutes later when she returns, I already have a list of all the locations of weird energy I could feel.

A handful of them turn out to be a bust: a tear-stained reply to a love letter obviously rejected. An aced test, hung up with pride. The aftermath of a 'romantic' rendezvous in a storage closet that makes the three of us unable to meet eyes for almost ten minutes.

In less than half an hour however-

"I feel the boundary field has become much weaker since we started." Rin says. "I think we got all the ones inside the building, we just need to do one last sweep of the school grounds-" As she says that I quickly snatch up a broom on the ground and reinforce it. "Archer says there's trouble."

"I know." I respond. "Duck."

She obliges and I take the head off of some sort of twisted skeleton behind her, before noticing a dozen more shambling towards us.

[ ] Run away.
[ ] Call Archer.
[ ] Hold ground.
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>>21454940
[x] Hold ground.
HULK SMASH
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>>21454940
>[ ] Hold ground.
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>>21454940
>[ ] Hold ground.
Skeletons?
Time to make some Skeleton Jelly.
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Rolled 14

>>21454940
[x]HOLD GROUND
fuck 'em up!
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>>21454959
As long as it's not Dalad.
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>>21454940
[X] Hold ground.

If even Shirou can kill them, then we are ok.
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>>21454940

TG HAS SPOKEN

Time to put our training to the test.
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"We hold here." I say simply, stepping outside the building into the small courtyard just on the eastern side.

"You're sure?" Rin asks, while Saber calls her armor to her.

"We've got clear lines of approach they have to follow, decent choke points, and Archer's got a good view of pretty much everything here." I say. "If we weren't already here, I'd suggest going to here or the roof as far as defensible locations go. And frankly this has much better prospects of escape if things go south."

Rin hesitates, and then nods. "Makes sense. what's the plan?"

"You do whatever you can, I'll stick close and guard you physically. I don't know what you can do, but unless you're secretly as strong as Berserker you're more valuable as a Mage. Archer keeps an eye on the situation and provides sniper support for now." I turn to Saber. "Go thin their numbers, but don't get too far away and come back immediately if something strikes you as odd or something bad happens." She nods, and then dashes forward and ruins the small group shambling towards us.

While she moves to a larger group coming around the bend, I notice another six coming from inside the building at us.

[DC 10 Swordsmanship]
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Rolled 13

>>21455037
Time to stab bitches and get money.
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Rolled 20

>>21455037
stabbing time
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Rolled 8

>>21455037
Here we go
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Rolled 2

>>21455037
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>>21455048

It BEGINS

>bisonyes.jpg
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>>21455048
>Rolled 20

Oh baby
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Rolled 7

>>21455037
Die, foul beasts! Taste the wrath of my...stick? Are we still wielding a reinforced stick?
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Rolled 12

>>21455037
Time for them to get skeletowned.
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Rolled 8

>>21455037
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>>21455037

Hey wait, we sent Saber away.

Nah, I am sure we will be fine.
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>>21455063

One of those large wooden push-brooms actually.

>>21455046
>>21455048
>>21455050

I calmly wait for them to shamble out of the building before I begin. I Step in front of the first one, and hook one end of the T at the end of the broom into his ribs, before smashing him into two others, destroying all three. Wrenching my weapon away snaps the broom off, leaving me with a incredibly strong stick I can use like a staff, a spear, or a two handed sword.

Excellent.

I spin between two more taking out one set of legs and the other's ribs, before turning to the only one left 'unwounded' and bisecting him with a upward vertical slash. I then spin in place, bringing the upward momentum into a diagonal downward slash destroying the last two completely. I then turn and see two more approaching Rin from behind. The first one I decapitate by throwing my weapon as a spear, and then I body-check the second one into a wall, reducing it to dust.

I turn to Rin, who seems rather... shocked, at how quickly I took out eight of these minions. she recovers quickly, and lets off a small magic blast that takes out thee more approaching from the opposite side Saber ran in. A dozen more approach from in the building, and another ten from the side Rin's filling with Magic.
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>>21455166

"Archer just found the Servant, it's Caster."

"Where?" I ask, as Saber returns. Which is when a woman in a dark robe appears and answers my question.

"Hello there. Two of the Knight's masters allied? Desperate circumstances indeed. Or perhaps there's something romantic?" The woman says, as though savoring the thought.

"God I hope not." Archer says as he drops next to us from his position on the roof. "That'll make killing him a lot harder than it has to be."

The robed woman lets out a laugh. "So then, I think you know I'm the Caster. If I had to guess, the Girl's with Archer and you," She says pointing a finger at me. "Are Saber's master?"

[ ] Yes.
[ ] Perhaps.
[ ] Call off your Goons.
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>>21455169
>[X] Call off your Goons.
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>>21455169
>[ ] Call off your Goons.
Don't give her ANY information.
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>>21455169
[x]Call off your goons
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>>21455169
Tell her to back off if she wants to keep anymore minions, obviously. Ideally we want her to think we Archer's Master and not Saber, though. Confusing the enemy is best.
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>>21455194
Didn't Archer already spoil that when he said he might have to kill us?
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>>21455202
Oh right. Oops. Fucking Archer.
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>>21455169
[X] Call off your Goons.

She clearly wants to talk, but thats rather difficult when a horde of angry skelingtons are giving us the evil eye.
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>>21455169

>[x] Call off your Goons.

Futile demand time!
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>>21455169
I think what people least expect is Shirou's lolwat honesty.

Besides, at any rate being polite and telling the truth increases our chance of negotiating with her. We're hardly here to play an information war where we attempt to extract info from her via words; if we're not going to convince her to stand down effectively, why bother talking at all?

The odds off call off your goons succeeding is horribly unlikely. I can certainly see why you'd pick it (especially given my option is terribad), but hey.
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Order Saber to Kill Caster.
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>>21455208
Of course, I forgot to include my option, which is, naturally,

>[X] Yes.

As someone has mentioned, she already knows. Might as well be honest to start on the right foot, eh? Avoiding the question is going to be... unhelpful.

Besides, hiding information makes us look like we're afraid.
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>>21455231

Voting for [x] Yes, followed by call off goons.
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>>21455235
Try and pick only 1 choice.
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Rolled 7

>>21455208
I like this guy's reasoning. Let's go for Yes.
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>>21455166
Step it up Caster, those minions suck.

>[x] Yes

No point in hiding it, not like she can't figure it out thanks to FUCKING ARCHER.
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>>21455169
>>21455207

Lets make thinks confusing.
Changing my vote to
>[x] Yes
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Voting Yes.

Not scared of these drones.
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>>21455261
>>21455252
>>21455235
>>21455231

If she wants to negotiate then she shouldn't have sent her skeletons against us.

[X] Call off your Goons.
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Rolled 11

>>21455271
Who said anything about negotiating? We're just answering the question. We can still tell her to go fuck herself right after.
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>>21455169
[x] Perhaps.
"Who said there was only two of us?"
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>>21455281
See >>21455208
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"If you want to talk, call off your Goons." I respond.

"Hmmm... Yes, how rude of me." she says. With a snap of her fingers, the remaining skeletons turn to dust, which she pulls into a pouch from inside her robe. "Now then, I must ask you why you set this boundary field on the school."

"Set it?" Rin asks. "We've been trying to destroy it."

"... Then it seems I've targeted the wrong people." she says. "My apologies. I tried to tangle an enchantment into the field to let me know is someone tried to mess with it, in hopes of catching the ones who set it up. I didn't account for the possibility that someone else would try and destroy it first."

"So you're here to spare people?" I ask hopefully.

Caster smiles and then laughs so hard she hunches over slightly. "What? No, goodness no. I don't particularly care about the damage, I'm more concerned that this is extremely public and hard to explain. There's also the fact that whoever claims it will have an absurd amount of magical energy at their disposal, making them a formidable threat." She frowns, humor gone. "Also I take issue with it as a practitioner. It's... vulgar. If it were spread out more they could achieve almost the same response with minimal impact. It's almost like it's designed to kill as many as possible."
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>>21455302

"I thought you didn't care about the little people?" I respond.

"I don't, not in the general sense. I've done this myself. But there's a difference between sacrificing a handful or something and Mass murder."

Her callousness irritates me, but.... "So then, since we're here...."

"I'd much prefer it if you were willing to walk away from this one." She says unexpectedly. "It's not to my advantage to fight two servants here, especially ones with such high magic resistance."

"Sounds like a good reason for us to fight." Archer says with a smile, summoning his twin blades.

"Oh, I would certainly lose." She says, as her smile takes on a more sinister quality. "But I would take both of your masters with me."

The two Knights hesitate.

"I'll even go a step further: I'll finish dispelling the field for you. All you could manage was to weaken it, but now that you have I can see the source. It should be easy for me to finish the job. In exchange I just request an agreement for all of us to return home and call a cease-fire for the evening."

[ ] Accept.
[ ] Deny.
[ ] Attempt to haggle.
>>
By the way, I know the vote's now favoring 'Yes', but my post was already mostly written when the change happened.

Sorry about that.
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>>21455308
>[ ] Attempt to haggle.
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>>21455308
[x]Attempt to haggle.
"Throw in some donuts with sprinkles, and you've got a deal."

for reals though,
[x]Accept
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>>21455308
[x] Attempt to haggle.
Wizard us up some refreshments and you have yourself a deal, lady.
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>>21455308
>[X] Accept.

If she is so sure that she can kill us, then it means she has something up her sleeve than we are unaware of..
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>>21455308
>Attempt to Haggle

Her offer sounds good. Too good. Whats the catch? Does "finish the job" involve murdering Rider (who is now our only suspect, now that Caster isn't the culprit)? Because no, we do not like that, not even a little bit.

We like Rider. She lets us hit Shinji and doesn't afraid of anything.
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>>21455311

Meh its ok.

>>21455308

This is a tricky one.

We would normally say
>[] Accept.

but caster is walking away with knowledge of the master's identities.
...
...

I'll go with
>[x] Accept.
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>>21455314
>>21455325
>>21455330
bitching coat+dicking with powerful creatures=Dresden
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>>21455341
Rider is an enemy. If you want to win, she will lose.
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>>21455344
Not "dicking", just making sure this won't have unintended consequences. She can't fault us for wanting specifics, shes a Magus too, she knows the value of caution.
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>>21455308
Throwing my lot in for haggling. And you know what? We gotta get some smokes. Maybe some scotch.
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>>21455351
asking a magic user to add in food as part of a bargain with lives in the balance, I think that qualifies as dicking with them.
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>>21455347
She's also a potential ally, since strong hints point towards Sakura being her true master.
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>>21455344
We're even getting Rin to teach us Alchemy.
Can we get Jolt Cola in Japan? 'Cause I could see lots of uses for an escape potion.
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>>21455362
I'm reasonably sure the "+food smokes and scotch" responses were jokes. I would hope so anyway.
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>>21455372
I am definitely in support of smokes and scotch, though to be fair I never said we should get them from Caster.
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>>21455366
>>21455347

This setting isn't 100% what the VN was, so we shouldn't minmax much because it might bite us in the ass.

I say that we just deal with things 1 at a time without looking too much into our relationships or potential allies.
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Why the hell is everyone want to accept food and drinks from a CASTER? That's almost as bad as accepting a gift from an assassin.
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>>21455386
We have a tentative alliance with Rin, an abusable but open-ended relationship with Sakura, who is probably also a Master, and Ilya is in a questionable position but refuses to kill us. The odds of us getting out of this war alive are very high. The odds of us actually winning this war are extremely questionable.

>>21455400
see >>21455381. Also, Fake Assassin is a pretty chill guy.
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"If the hand your playing to open with is so generous, then I'm forced to wonder what you plan to gain from this." I comment.

"How so?"

"All we have to do is walk away and not kill you? In exchange you'll dispel the field? There's something you're not telling us."

"So suspicious. You think my life is such a small card to play?"

"I think that if your life was really in danger, you'd be trying to bluff a stronger hand. The only reason you have to tell us you're weak is to try and lower our guard."

She's silent. "You're suspicious."

"You just openly admitted that someone eating a school didn't really bother you. not a great way to get on my good side."

"As opposed to lieing?" She says.

"Just some more info: for instance, how did you intend to destroy the field when all we could do is weaken it?"

She frowns at this, while Saber stands in support, Rin's trying to suppress a smirk and Archer shoots me a single confused glance over the course of the conversation.

[ d20 for effectiveness.]
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>>21455400
>reinforce them, removing all impurities
>casters face when we're all orgasming from food of the gods instead of dropping dead form poisons
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Rolled 11

>>21455407
Well then, how strong is she?
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Rolled 13

>>21455407
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Rolled 18

>>21455407
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Rolled 5

>>21455407
Emiya Shirou, master haggler.
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Rolled 6

>>21455422
>5
Hahaha no.
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Rolled 18

>>21455419
I like you, you're good people
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Rolled 15

>>21455407
My words cut like steel!
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>>21455431
>6

I don't think you should make fun of other rolls.
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>>21455443
There is hope for this thread.
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>>21455448
BEGONE! Your foul warp-dabbling cursed our dice last time!
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>>21455454
I will not allow you to mistake me for that fool who spoke to quickly and too harshly at the wrong time to the wrong people.
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>>21455446
At least I beat his!
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Rolled 9

>>21455454
Let's see how badly we're cursed.
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>>21455474
The Lord of Change offers us his blessing for the time being. Rejoice, my friends.
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>>21455474
This thread is officially heretical.

Loyalists are not welcome here.
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>>21455491
I don't know. Maybe he's just fucking with us because it doesn't matter.
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>>21455415
>>21455418
>>21455419

Caster seems to fret over the answer for a minute. Finally, she draws some sort of conclusion. "-Very well. I'm not going to disclose the details since it might compromise my identity. It is within my power to sever certain connections. This boundary field is connected to it's master in a way I could detect, but previously I couldn't find the root of it. Normally the master of it would need to dismiss it or be killed."

"I see... so you did nothing about it until now because you couldn't attack it directly and couldn't deal with the one who created it?"

"Just so." She says with a small smile. "It's also possible that in the act of dispelling I could divine something about the person who cast it. I've now seen or identified all of the servants, save one. Rider."

I keep my face neutral. "So you've met Assassin?"

"Yes." She responds simply. "I'll tell you what, since you've made such a compelling argument, and honestly I'm vaguely impressed at your insight... I'll alter the deal just slightly. I'll provide you with what knowledge I glean from dispelling the field, in exchange for you not peeking in at me. Otherwise, it stands the same: we part ways and agree to not make any attempt to harm the other until at least sunrise. Who knows? I might get lucky and have you deal with my enemy for me."

I get the feeling it won't get better than this.

[ ] Deal.
[ ] No Deal.
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>>21455531
Deal.
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>>21455531
Absolutely taking this deal.
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>>21455531

Deal.
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>>21455531
>[ ] Deal.

May as well.
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>>21455531
>[ ] Deal.
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>>21455531

[X] Deal.
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>>21455531
[x] Deal.
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I think about it for a moment, and then look to my companions.

Saber gives me a questioning look, and the nods when I do.

Rin nods.

Archer gives me a blank, disbelieving stare.

So, three 'yes' and one 'abstain'. I turn to Caster. "Deal. We'll wait right here until you come to tell us the job is done."

She smiles and nods, before walking into the building. A few minutes later, Rin confirms that the field is completely gone, and shortly after, Caster returns.

"I wasn't able to determine much." She says by way of greeting. "I do know that it was summoned by a girl wearing a blindfold. That was as much as I could get from it's after image. That, and a young man with a Book I suspect to be the Master. Judging by his clothing, I suppose he's a student here."

"I suspected as much. Either a teacher or a student would have to be to have such access to the school."

Caster nods. "Beyond that, I only received fleeting images of two opposing Vampires and a nest of insects unbelievably numerous." She shudders slightly at the memory. "Evil too. I a way I can barely comprehend. Good enough, Master of Saber? Is our business here concluded?"

"No violence or attempts at such between us until dawn at the earliest." I answer with a nod. "For now we part ways. You filled your end of the bargain so I'll honor mine."

Caster nods, and then fades away. We return home.

[ ] Talk to Saber.
[ ] Talk to Archer.
[ ] Talk to Rin.
[ ] Timeskip to house.
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>>21455654
Talk to Archer. He looked, well, less than happy.
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>>21455654
>[ ] Talk to Rin.
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>>21455668
He's always unhappy. Let him stew. If it's important, he'll whine about it later. Timeskip.
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>>21455654
>[ ] Talk to Archer.
Archer, stop being mad. Just because this is a war doesn't mean we need to act like a bunch of crazed murder-hobos.
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>>21455674
No, I have to know why he so adamently refused to believe we were asking. And besides, bonding with ourself can never be bad.
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>>21455654
>[X] Talk to Archer.

Why did he look at us like that?
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>>21455654
Interesting. Also we could consider it odd that she has met Assassin as he isn't known for being easy to spot or find, they tend to go out of their way not to be noticed. It's not an unreasonable guess to believe they have an agreement of some kind, whether it be truce or alliance, we don't have enough to say anything for sure of course.

[X] Talk to Rin.

We can talk to Seiba in private about Kiritsugu, but that isn't something to bring up here. And if Archer wants to talk about something he'll bring it up by mocking us.
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>>21455654
[x] Talk to Rin.
So that was obviously Rider working under orders of Dickbag McDoucheyton the Third, Bringer of Angst and Lord of all Cocks. We should probably add a few punches to his quota.
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>>21455654
>[x] Talk to Rin.
So, I guess it turns out Shinji was planning to feed the whole school to Rider. Thoughts?
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>>21455750
He's a douchebag. We should kick him in the balls and then punch him in the face some more.
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Wait, are we in a tie?
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>>21455761
>We should kick him in the balls
This is never the right thing to do. I do not care if you were talking to Hitler-Stalin blessed by Khorne, you should never kick a man in the balls.
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>>21455766
Agreed. We are a HERO, we go for honorable above-the-belt hits. We just make up the difference by swinging until we hear bones break.
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"So then, Shinji was planning to feed rider the School." I say to Rin.

"It certainly seems that way." She responds. There's a beat, then "I think we're going to have to kill him. There's no way he's going to even pretend to come out of this as a good person. He's plotting mass murder, he attempted to rape and/or kill Ayako...."

I sigh. "I'm hoping it doesn't come to that, but it looks less and less likely, doesn't it?"

She's shaking slightly. "I just don't- how could someone do that? go to school and smile and joke knowing he's going to murder everyone there in some horrible way? I would never have guessed anything was wrong if I didn't happen across one of the anchors. What kind of monster-" she cuts off suddenly, trying to take a deep breath and calm her emotions.

[ ] Reassure her.
[ ] Put an arm around her.
[ ] Say nothing.
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>>21455867
[ ] Put an arm around her.
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>>21455867
Say nothing. She has to get a hold of herself without relying on us if she wants to grow as a person
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>>21455867
[X] Say nothing.

I doubt we can say anything to rationalize Shinji and putting our arm around her seems too forward.
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>>21455867
[X] Put an arm around her.

Girl needs a hug, we are that hug.
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>>21455867
[x] Say nothing.
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>>21455883
Yeah, wish there was a hand on shoulder option, but arm around is too much.
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>>21455867

Give her a hug. It's the only option that feels right.
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>>21455867
>[ ] Reassure her.
At the very least. I can see not wanting to get all touchy-feely, but we'll come off as cold if we say nothing.
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Hugs are never the wrong answer.

Unless it's a hedgehog.

[ ] Put an arm around her.
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>>21455867

[X] Say nothing.
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Huh, I kinda figured an arm would be the appropriate middle ground between saying nothing and trying to reassure her.

Apparently something's either being misinterpreted, or body language varies DRAMATICALLY regionally.

Future reference, write-ins are alright in my book. My 'options' are more to provide direction and tone than straight up forking paths set in stone.
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>>21455990
I think silence is winning, though, so go for it.
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>>21455990

[x] Arm's good
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>>21455990
Arm, we like arm.

Rin sad, that we do not like.

>[x] arm
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>>21455996

Actually, vote's tied.

>>21456003

Or it was.
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>>21455867

Either Arm or Reassure her
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>>21455990
>>21456013
Compromise!
[x] Reassuring hand on shoulder.
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>>21456013

Thing is, are the votes for arm for a more intimate reassurance? Cause I don't think that might have been what they were thinking.
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>>21456055

>I think that might have been what they were thinking

HUURRR.

Bloody brainfart...
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I very calmly reach over and put my arm around her.

It's an act that requires more thought than people realize, as I reach over. Or maybe I'm just over-thinking it because the subject involved.

Too high seems to send the wrong message. More of a chummy shoulder grab than an act meant to reassure. Too low is even worse, as then it might make her think I'm trying to grab her ass.

I put my hand about even with where I imagine her navel would be, were I desperately trying not to imagine her with less clothes on. I curl my fingers and grab her side gently pulling her in against me.

For a brief, agonizing second she stiffens, confused and I'm terrified I made the wrong choice, maybe overstepped a bound. then she relaxes as we walk along, allowing me to take some of her weight as we continue. she's calmed considerably, and she even smiles slightly when Saber gently puts a hand on her shoulder.

Nothing is said, and nothing needs to be said.

When we get home, Archer, being Archer, kills the mood.
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>>21456066

fucking cockblocker
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>>21456066

"We need to make a move of some kind."

"What do you mean?" Saber asks.

"We need to do something about somebody. We know who every player other than Assassin is, and some of them: like Caster, are only going to be worse the longer we let them sit."

He has a point, but which servant do we attempt to eliminate? Or should we wait for someone to make the first move?

[ ] Caster's going to be hard to take if we wait.
[ ] Berserker's too strong to let roam free.
[ ] Rider's the most immediate threat.
[ ] Lancer's too unpredictable to run around.
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Look at me I'm Archer, I'm a huge dick and hate fun.

A bloo bloo bloo i'm mad because you aren't letting me stab things
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>>21456066
THE MOOD IS DEAD, ARCHER.
THERE'S BLOOD EVERYWHERE.
WHO'S GONNA PAY THE DRYCLEANING BILL? NOT ME, MOTHERFUCKER. YOU ARE.
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>>21456090
Caster. The longer she builds up, the worse she will be. We need her dead yesterday.

>>21456092
Archer is awesome, dude. And stabbing things is better. In fact, there is no reason not to let him stab things. There are, in fact, countless reasons to go stab a lot of things.
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>>21456090
>[ ] Rider's the most immediate threat.
We've been beating around the bush on the whole Rider thing FOREVER.

Lets just deal with it now. If we can get her and Sakura on our side, cool. If not, at least we'll have de-fanged (and possibly allowed Archer to murder) Shinji.

Actually, Shinji would be a great way to let Archer get his murder-boner off. Maybe after he kills someone he'll calm his tits.
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>>21456090

I'd vote to see if can neutralise Rider as a threat and maybe add her to our army.

Basically, we need Sakura over so we can talk to her.
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>>21456090
[X] Caster's going to be hard to take if we wait.

Never give Caster a chance to build up all of their wards and defenses.
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>>21456108
>>21456112
Every day that Caster lives makes her that much harder to kill. If we leave her too long she might even manage to go toe to toe with Gilgames.
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>>21456090

[X] Rider's the most immediate threat.

Now that the barrier is destroyed they will either want to put a new barrier in a new place or go and investigate how the previous barrier was destroyed.

If we want to deal with them we need to do it NOW that we have the upper hand.
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>>21456090
>[ ] Rider's the most immediate threat.
We just got rid of the Bloodfort, Shinji is going to be in panic mode. We need to deal with that pronto before he does something retarded.

Getting Rider on our side would be great as well. She has an amazing.....Noble Phantasm. Yeah.
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>>21456090
>Rider
Leaving her be seems like it'd be the most likely to result in innocents dying.
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All that Rider talk made me remember that Sakura is supposed to stay on our house.

And that means that Rider wouldn't be far away.
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>>21456132

>Leaving her in the hands of shinji seems like it'd be the most likely to result in innocents dying

Minor nitpick
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>>21456090
[x] Rider's the most immediate threat.
We made a deal with Caster to leave her till sunrise. At the very least we can wait till then.
And Shinji needs stabbifying. Like, now.
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>>21456140
Shinji dying will not exactly help keep Sakura stable.
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>>21456102
>>21456116
>>21456122
Guys, remember how we agreed not to attack Caster tonight? We can't go back on our word.

Also, how late is it? We might have enough time to nip on over to the Matou place, everyone has a jolly good time kicking Shinji until his guts come out his mouth, deal with Rider one way or another, and be back by dawn.

After all, our Servants haven't done anything particularly strenuous tonight.
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Yeah, bloodfort is down, Sakura is gonna stay with and Shinji is retarded enough to go and remake the bloodfort in another populated place.

We either need to kill or pacify Rider as soon as possible, or we would be in the middle of an enormous clusterfuck.
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>>21456148
>Rider dying will not exactly help keep Sakura stable.

Fixed for truth. But still, we need to make a move.
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>>21456148

I meant, we just need to get her out of Shinji's hands. Like right now.

And she doesn't seem to go insane in Fate after Shinji goes missing.
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>>21456129
Bellerophon is a pretty strong NP I agree.

Rider is actually a damn powerful servant between her Mystic Eyes and Bellerophon, she's just crippled by the fact that Shinji has the magical strength of a mewling kitten.
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>>21456155
Fuck it. How about we kill the lot of them. Nobody likes Sakura anyway.

>>21456160
Though both of them would pick up considerably if Zouken were gone, as I have been saying for several threads.
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>>21456164
But if we kill Sakura we miss out on delicious Sweater Rider.
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>>21456164

Agreed but we need to first accept that we need to deal with Rider first. Then we can chat with Sakura and find out the underlying problem and cause so we can fuck his shit up.
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>>21456164
>Fuck it. How about we kill the lot of them. Nobody likes Sakura anyway.

Oh boy here we go.
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>>21456161
I was TRYING to imply that i was talking about her rack/ass, but i guess it didn't translate to text.

We have no idea what her NP is in-character right now, and the odds of us needing anyone but Saber+Archer to just steamroll through everyone are low, especially if we don't have to waste an Excalibur shot to kill Rider.
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>>21456169
On the other hand, we get to skip the pot of worms. Do you want to stick your dick into a pot of literal evil? And worms?
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>>21456161
>[x] Rider is the more immediate threat

This needs to be dealt with, and it needs to be dealt with now. All else can wait in comparison.
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>>21456176
I caught that, I was being willingly oblivious for fun. She is hot, especially in a sweater and glasses.

But seriously, her NPs are badass, not that we know what they are at this point. I think it's reasonably common knowledge that Riders are defined by riding ability and having absurd NPs.
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>>21456160

Well part of the chain of events leading up to Sakura going insane was Shirou being an idiot and forgetting to call head about taking magic lessons with Rin and leaving an unstable Sakura alone.
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>>21456200
Not his fault he did not tell an ugly prostitute about his attempts to survive punching monsters to death and being impaled from the inside.
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>>21456199
My god. You pulled a "you've lost me" and i walked right into it.

Thats meta as fuck. I love it.
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"Rider's the most immediate threat." I say after a moment's thought. "We know Shinji's morally bankrupt enough to try and do something stupid if we let him, he has reason to panic if we let him."

"So we kill Rider first?" Archer asks me.

"At the very least we need to see exactly what's going on there. we might be able to reason with her if Shinji's removed from the situation. Step one is more intelligence gathering."

"Sakura will be here tomorrow." Rin says, looking at me.

"What are you suggesting?"

"If she isn't defending against it, I could put her to sleep gently, we could check and see if she has command spell or whatever, and then act concerned and tell her she fainted." Rin says. "At the very least, we'd know if we need to do anything to or about her."

I hesitate, and Saber speaks up. "I hate to suggest using her as bait, but Shinji might very well try and attack us since he knows Shirou is a master and Sakura coming here...."

[ ] Agree to the plan.
[ ] Try to come up with an alternate solution.
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>>21456214
Yeah, sure. Sounds like a plan.
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>>21456214
[X] Agree to the plan.
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>>21456214
Before i cast my vote, anybody have any bright ideas?

My "that plan is going to blow up in our face somehow" senses are tingling a bit.
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>>21456214

Sakura might have told Shinji that Tohsaka was staying over and he knows shes a magus.

He might think twice about attacking our home with the two of us there but if he does, we'll slap his shit.

[x] Agree to the plan
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>>21456214
[X] Try to come up with an alternate solution.

Don't forget that she got permission from her grandfather to stay here. If she truly is a Master then you bet your ass that she will have some defensive enchantments or at least something to hide here command seals.
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>>21456239
In adittion to this, maybe us using magic or force on Sakura is the trap. That way Shinji might spin it that we never cared about Sakura and that we were only using her to win the Grail.

And then BOTH Sakura and Rider will want our head on a stick.
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>>21456239
This is good point. We have to assume the Matous are sharing information.

If that is the case, then it won't be as simple as KO'ing her with magic. Worst case scenario she resists it, panics, and sics Rider on us before we can explain.

[X] Try to come up with an alternate solution.

I say we strike while the iron is hot rather than let Shinji come up with an underhanded plan.
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>>21456248
>>21456249

Yep, that seems like an obvious trap.

We need to either be sneeky or to take of Rider adn Shinji NOW, before Sakura moves in our house.
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>>21456248
If you managed to remove Shinji from his house before screwing around with Sakura's command seals we have a much cleaner chance to remove Rider.
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>>21456232
Made up my mind. Sakura isn't going to be without magical defenses, and every minute we wait is another chance for Shinji to come up with one of his half-assed plans.

>[] Try to come up with an alternate solution.
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>>21456214
[x] Try to come up with an alternate solution.
Nope. That will make Shinji even MORE desperate.
We hit him hard and fast, but give him a chance to surrender. If he doesn't, we can say we tried. If he does, we wait for him to try to backstab and then we can say we tried.
Then we ask Sakura what she thinks Shinji has been using Rider for lately. She'll probably like the answer slightly more than hearing that her brother is dead.
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>>21456259
>If you managed to remove Shinji from his house before screwing around with Sakura's command seals we have a much cleaner chance to remove Rider.

Who said that Shinji will be at his house? He doesn't even need to be anywhere in particular in order for the magical spells he might have put on Sakura to work. Hell, even Rider doesn't need to be near Sakura since she can feel everything her master feels no matter how far she is.
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>>21456275
>Then we ask Sakura what she thinks Shinji has been using Rider for lately. She'll probably like the answer slightly more than hearing that her brother is dead.

If we try and give Shinji a chance to surrender, we could always claim the high moral ground since he wasn't above mass murder.
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>>21456276
I mean put him somewhere he cannot communicate with the others with his family.
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>>21456275
This is good plan.
We have 2 Servants, we can mop the floor with Shinji both magically and physically, and once we neutralize him and secure Sakura we can bring Rider to the bargaining table.
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>>21456214
So are we all in agreement that
[X] Try to come up with an alternate solution. is the best course of action?

Hey acguy, do we need to say what exactly the plan will be for this choice to be valid?
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I hesitate. "Do we really need to drag Sakura into this? We can't just move against Shinji now?"

Rin sighs. "We have no idea where he is or what he's planning. Our best guess would be their house, but that would be suicide to try and attack him and his servant there. Our worst case Scenario is that he remakes that weird boundary field somewhere else and we can't find it. Even if he moved and started on it right now, gave up sleeping, and worked around the clock... We have at least two days before he can activate it."

Saber hesitates and then looks between us. "I'm not sure I want to involve Sakura either. There's really nothing we can do?"

"That wouldn't set off every warning flag ever?" Rin says "Not really. We told her it was alright for her to come over, and we have no way of keeping her out that isn't suspicious as hell. I might be able to do something with Archer tomorrow since Shirou's the only one going to be on lockdown, but..."

"-Earliest we can move is when/if she leaves, assuming our first course of action isn't to confront her in some way." I finish, letting out a sigh. I look at the clock, it's almost one in the morning. "We should get some sleep. We might have a third master in the house tomorrow."
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I'm gonna go ahead and call it quits there if you guys don't mind. I need to be up early to go be Patriotic.
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>>21456339
Yeah, sure. It is already morning here so I want to go to sleep.
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>>21456339

Right. Thanks for the sessions. ETA on the next?
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>>21456339
Cool, good job once again. Any idea when the next thread will be?
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>>21456339
Sleep well Acguy and don't let the spiders kill you in your sleep.
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>>21456347
>>21456341

He did said that he would do an AC quest thread after this thread, so I guess the next F/SA will be in a week or so?
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>>21456340
>>21456341
>>21456347

Not even the damnedest.

>>21456350

You're doing me and my arachnophobia loads of good, you prick.
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>>21456365

But spider just want hugzzz
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>>21456365
You will be fine as long as you believe. You believe in magic, don't you?



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